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The people who own said content barely give a shit. Everything is just a cashgrab to them.
Obviously the solution is to merge all companies into a single megacorp that owns everything.
SIEG HEIL DER CORPENFUHRER!
Copyright laws.
We live in an unjust world.
How do Norby and Daggey sound?
Against all odds I'm hoping Tak gets in.
are these characters all getting in the game? if so this is a really good roster!
Pretty sure at least 6 are bosses, but according to leaks they should be playable with cheats, in theory.
Plus npcs and apparently Majin Buu or something
So did Gerald repace Helga or something? It seems like such a weird choice especially when Gerald doesn't really have enough to make a unique to him moveset. Helga's fighty-ness, bullying and various other shenanigans she gets up to makes her a much better candidate for a fighting game over Gerald, especially as she's more of a main character than he is.
Yes, though they could've easily just made Gerald a clone of Lincoln Loud while keeping Helga, and I doubt anyone would complain. Hell, the total lack of clone characters in general is sort of baffling, they're literally built to be extra fanservice when you don't have enough time.
I wish I knew why half of the first game's roster didn't make it to this one.
The engine of NASB1 was apparently terrible to work with and the lead devs really really wanted Melee physics, so they rebuilt the engine from scratch.
Allegedly, they're only allowed a certain number of characters for each series. So, if they want to add anyone from, say, Hey Arnold, someone that was already there has to go, even if they were in the first game.
We needed a black guy on the roster and he's the only black guy on Nick who isn't a loser.
>Nora render
If she's in as an actual fighter instead of Vexus or the Crust Cousins I'm gonna be very annoyed.
>Crust Cousins
What the hell would they do, complain their dresses got dirty?
If they could make movesets for all the other unpowered humans they could make them too.
>More Spongebob
getting Star Fox=Brawl and Fire Emblem=Ultimate vibes. I hate when crossovers do this
Only four are playable.
>Star Fox=Brawl
>3 characters
the outrage
>Jellyfish King
Were they desperate for boss characters or something?
>the fricking Cabbage Merchant
See, at least the Cabbage Merchant is a meme. Not a very well known meme, but a meme nonetheless.
Who the actual frick was asking for Gertie?? That has to be an example of a horrifically out of touch Nickelodeon executive who probably think "ass kicking granny!" SHOULD have been a meme and wants to force it to be one
She is an ass kicking granny
>Norbert plowing Daggett
>Daggett plowing Norbert
This is a based game
>We could've got Gaz, but Remar is a moron so the goth lh character has to stay
Frick you
Based
>Vexus
Another alien character wouldn't be so bad honestly
Also no, Nora is an NPC too, the creator of the image needs to edit all of this to see who is playable and who is not
>Supporting Pyle.
To be fair Loud House is the only actual Nicktoon Remar has ever watched.
>literally fricking nothing for loudgays
Goddamn boomer ass devs
Why is patrick censored?
His render got consored to troll the people on Discord who have been begging for his render for days.
That's Majin Buu
Oh okay.
Wheres Snap!
...where's spongebob?
did spongebob get cut?
how you gonna have a nickelodeon game with no spongebob?
He's literally on the box art cover
>Welp, we got leak info on the DLC.
>It's not about any DLC character but it's still a doozy that'll sink the game's PR as hard as Capcom's early DLC practices.
>Since this thread is coming to i close i'll reveal the info next time
Ass been gaping for 8 hours b***h titz, finna start pumping butts soon if no update
This was easy bait clearly
Sorry i'm late. Didn't know of this thread.
There's a lot of info that has been leaked, too much for one post, so i'm just gonna split it into four parts.
Parts one and two will be about the DLC characters along with other miscellaneous trivia. Part two will be about the costumes. Part three will be about what Thaddeus has been up to.
Keep in mind that i'm not the one who screencapped all the Discord Images that i'll be using.
For now here's a leak of Azula's theme. (Or at least the track that'll play for her trailer)
>All four DLC characters are going to be from shows already in the game, no new franchises
>Leaked DLC character codename is Stevia, although the leaker says it has nothing to do with the character and no one will be able to guess who it is
>It's pretty much implied that at least one of the characters is going to be an unpredictable joke character
>The leaker who called the DLC mediocre has retracted their statement and is now saying that there's going to be people who'll love them and people who'll hate them
>Later after that PapaGenos would come out to say that the DLC is indeed mediocre at best even going as far as to call some of the characters bad
>He also implies that it's the devs choosing the characters for the roster, not Nickelodeon, and he doesn't understand how the devs are choosing them
>Although another source is saying it's not as bad as people are saying
>NPCs won't be DLC
>Each show will have 1-3 NPCs each
>All NPCs will be fully voiced although it is unknown how much of it will be reused voice clips from the shows
>Bosses do not count as NPCs
>Cabbage Merchant from Avatar confirmed NPC
>Gir is both an NPC and apart of Zim's moveset
>There will be more stages than characters
>Vexus can not be found anywhere in the game despite her minions being campaign enemies
>Also there're campaign mode enemies
>Dib and Sheen status unknown
>Sokka and Zuko status also unknown but leaker implies there won't be a fourth Avatar character, they might not ever be in the game at all
>Leaker also implies that one of the four DLC characters might just be Rocksteady from TMNT
>There's no chance that Catdog or Real Monsters will return in any way shape or form
>The 6 bosses are Vlad, Clockwork, King Jellyfish, Flying Dutchman, Shredder, and Sartana of the Dead
>Bosses will hang out in the background until they're ready for battle
>Except Vlad and Shredder who enter their respective stages differently from other bosses
>Bosses will not be DLC
>Vlad and Shredder have fully functional movesets, to the point play testers thought they were playable, but are not, only bosses
>It's unsure is Shredder was going to be playable at some point but Vlad was
>The way the Danny Phantom characters were decided has been described as messy due to only being able to use two DP character causing the developers to juggle between Danny, Vlad and Ember
>Danny himself was considered for being cut multiple times in favor of having Vlad and Ember be the DP characters until it was decided to keep Danny and have Ember over Vlad
>The whole ordeal left insiders and play testers confused on Vlad's playable status
>It's strongly implied and even theorized by multiple leakers, aside play testers, that their sources, or as they call them "Our demons", are the exact same guy who's just been contacting multiple people with information across YouTube, Twitter, Discord and Reddit
>And yet at least one leaker's source gets their info from another source who might just be the same source for all the other leakers
>All characters have 3 costumes each, not counting their main costumes
>Except for SpongeBob and Patrick who have 4, both having one costume exclusively to the season pass and pre-order respectively
>Zim's human disguise might no longer be a costume due to it being implemented into his moveset
>Although Gir's dog disguise has been spotted
>All characters start with two costumes base game with their third costumes being DLC
>All DLC costumes are finished and ready to go, some even being shown off in the spotlights
>All costume DLC is going to be day one DLC
>All costume DLC is also on disc DLC
>Every DLC character's third costume is also going to be DLC
>If you want every costume for the DLC characters then you're going to have to pay for extra DLC for the DLC
>Mirror matches can not be played if both characters have the same costume
>Meaning that if you want to do a four player mirror match with your friends, you're going to have to pay extra for the third costume
>If there's four kids out there who're all Squidward fans want to play as him then they're going to need daddy's credit card for all four of them to be able to play as Squidward
>This is not the case for the $80 Ultimate edition that comes with all costume DLC as well as the season pass
>Ultimate edition is digital exclusive
>Between Nickelodeon or GameMill it is unknown exactly who's to blame for such DLC practice
>Might be both
>Thaddeus had absolutely no idea about the plans for the DLC costumes having found out from the leak like everyone else
>He hates it
>He doesn't outright say it but he's fully aware of the leaks but can't do anything about it due to NDA
>He says that despite everything bad that has happened on the Discord, all of it isn't remotely as disappointing as the disappointment that the Unity executives caused
>He revealed that NASB1 was going to have a collectors edition as well with "costumes and whatnot" but it had to be scrapped due to the content not being able to be finished on time
>Thaddeus also announced that he added slime taunts
>Slime taunts just add a slime effect to regular taunts
>Other than that, it does absolutely nothing except wastes an entire slime meter just so players can flex on their opponents, or as he says "BM/tilt the weak-willed"
>Thaddeus leaves by basically admitting that he adds "dumb shit" to the game just to add "dumb shit"
>just add dumb shit
>4 TMNT characters but not all 4 turtles
How does this guy still have a job?
Because he's not the one choosing the roster. It's a mutual agreement between Nickelodeon, Fair Play Labs, and Gamemill. All of them signed off on the lack of 4 turtles.
>mutual agreement
What about Ludosity?
Ludo was barely here in the first game and practically nonexistent in the second.
I think that's bullshit. On discord he literally stated that Gertie was only a suggestion and Thadeus put her in because he wanted to. I don't think there's any problem with Arnold considering he's in Nick Kart Racers 2 and 3
>Thaddeus
Again, Thaddeus isn't making exclusive decisions nor primarily designing this game. The testers have confirmed time and again that it's pretty much a Fair Play Labs project. They're doing 90% of the work.
He still appoints himself as the face of the game, so it's only fair he gets the brunt of the shit that comes their way. He doesn't get to claim most of the glory while simultaneously deflecting whenever shit blows up in his face, that's not how it works.
Not really no. He's just unprofessional and the most open about showing his work, he gets the most attention.
So he's an egotistical glory hog?
That's a spiteful conclusion to have. Wanting to work on the game and being open to the audience isn't a bad thing.
Spiteful? I'm just telling it as i see it.
>Gertie was only a suggestion
In what world would she even be mentioned? Who was she fricking over there?
According to one insider it was the devs who brought her up and Nickelodeon just liked it enough to give the devs the option.
Although i doubt they were pushing hard for her like Thaddeus said they did.
He definitely is choosing the roster and not nick. Danny almost got cut. Crap like azula
Nick was long confirmed to play a part in roster decisions. Nick signed off on it or they would've mandated and overwritten choices.
Do you think they mandated choosing Gertie over Arnold when the latter is playable in Nick Kart Racers 2 and 3
considering tommy and angelica were replaced with susie and purple reptar kart racers 3, yes
When it comes to Arnold, it seems like him not being playable is most likely due to Nick and Ludosity mutually agreeing that him being a pacifist is what made him unplayable.
But in the case of other characters (Vlad, Shredder, etc.) it seems like there was a bunch of mandates set out to exclude them from the base roster. Whether that is a character limit per franchise, or Nick explicitly demanding a cap of 25 playable characters) remains to be seen, but with the information we have this seems likely.
If I had my guess, Ludosity had all of the new character slots finalized and had most of the modeling done, then Nick went and said "Can you please shave the base roster down to 25, we don't want the game itself to have too much value." This resulted in Ludosity making the difficult decision to cut 11 old characters for new ones. Vlad also got caught in the crossfire because they didn't want to cut another character so they made him exclusively a boss.
>When it comes to Arnold, it seems like him not being playable is most likely due to Nick and Ludosity mutually agreeing that him being a pacifist is what made him unplayable.
absolute bullshit, Arnold x Grandma would be a killer representation as master and disciple.
>When it comes to Arnold, it seems like him not being playable is most likely due to Nick and Ludosity mutually agreeing that him being a pacifist is what made him unplayable.
I would rather have zero Hey Arnold! representation than them pussyfoot around the whole issue If that's the case; give the slot(s) to another property/show entirely.
Especially a more underappreciated show like Harvey Beaks and Welcome to the Wayne.
It is pure madness that they think both Gerald and Arnold's Grandma would be better fits for Helga, who is blatantly the most popular Hey Arnold character and would be a returning one at that. You pick one of them (probably Grandma if we're being real who will be the most interesting pick) and keep Helga there.
But it’s a unique roster so SURELY it must be good!!!!
I wonder how many kids would be into the roster.
They'd be happy about Lucy and the SpongeBob characters but i don't think they'd like Sandy and Lincoln being cut.
This goes double for the DLC. Depending on who the four characters are kids might not give a shit about them enough to buy them.
Kids would love Squidward and Plankton being there more than Sandy.
>it seems like him not being playable is most likely due to Nick and Ludosity mutually agreeing that him being a pacifist is what made him unplayable.
Wait wait wait hold up here
This goth b***h right here I'm seeing is supposed to be an incredibly quiet and insecure and sweet kid who gets into far less trouble than her siblings and is mostly into moody poetry and kissing some vampire statue, and apparently her fans want her to get into even less trouble than she already doesn't get into
But somehow she's more fitting for a brawler than Arnold because he's a pacifist? Instead we get Arnold's decrepit grandma? I don't even fricking remember her name, but we get her because she knew some kung fu in some random ass episode? We lost Helga for Arnold....'s grandmother?
>picrel
You DARE question the mighty GODDEUS Piccolo!?!? DBS will NEVER get into NASB now you FOOL, unless you get on your knees and beg him for forgiveness and mercy.
One of the Ludosity developers, Remar, has been proven to be into goth girls and Loud House is the only Nicktoon he ever watched.
Although he doesn't actually work on the NASB games he still has influence over the roster as Lucy proves.
This also explains why Lucy has the most tech in the NASB1 roster, because despite not being on the team Remar still clearly helped out with Lucy.
Remar is one of the two developers who create the characters in Slap City so he knows how to create a great moveset.
Lucygay here.
Nickelodeon refusing to allow Lucy in Nick All Stars Brawl 1 made perfect sense. I think I speak for loads of fellow Lucybros when I say that up until she was revealed as a character, not one of us thought she'd make it in because there are probably 5 other Loud sisters who make more sense, on top of at least 2 or 3 other Loud House characters in general who'd make more sense. Plus, Lucy was like the second most unpopular sister at the time.
So if not for Remar, zero chance Lucy'd ever have been anything more than a background NPC in the first game, if even that.
Honestly, I think that other anon's roster that had Lincoln and Ronnie Anne was a far more "reasonable" list for the time. If the Loud House had 2 reps, it'd be either Lincoln and Ronnie Anne or Lincoln and Clyde. If the Loud House had 4 reps with 2 sisters, those sisters would probably have been Lynn and Lana. If the Loud House had 6 reps, the 4 sisters would probably have been Lynn, Lana, Luna, and Lisa.
Funny as hell, the winds shifted and now it seems like Lucy's actually the most popular Loud sister as of the present, so that's probably why she's still a rep despite Lincoln getting cut: in a total reversal of the first situation, it was Nickelodeon themselves pushing to keep her in.
>I think I speak for loads of fellow Lucybros when I say that up until she was revealed as a character
But, Lucy was revealed in the very first trailer.
Man, I must've misremembered it then. I could've sworn that NASB1 was leaked early on something.
No, I get your sentiment. Before Nick Brawl, Lucy didn't read as a "Smash" type character so you'd never expect her in one if such a thing existed.
Oh it was. Just didn't think there was much speculation from those leaks considering the game got revealed five days later, more or less.
>because he's a pacifist?
Yeah, I don't get that argument. Aang is a pacifist too and they could even write it so this game took place right in the middle of that self-defense ep, but that would require them giving a shit about their shovelware game.
I doubt the game will even have a story or plot.
But apparently there's going to be enough lore to make NASB2 a prequel to NASB 1.
>prequel
>phag8s
>prequel
>Prequel
>NASB2 a prequel to NASB 1.
Comparing him to Aang is moronic. Aang actually fights regularly with numerous staple iconic abilities. He can fight, he just doesn't like to kill.
Ludosity themselves said that there are character they fought for that Nickelodeon didn't want and it seems that's the case with NASB2 as well.
Nick doesn't want these characters, they just aren't putting their foot down hard enough.
That's only the case with NASB 1 where Nick wrote off the game as shovelware. That's not the case in the sequel, they're more okay with wacky picks and literal faces being cut now (Lincoln Loud).
And as we're seeing it's biting them in the ass.
he straight up said in nasb 1 "we will not add a character just to complete a group" when asked about not having all 4 turtles, you don't do leo mikey in one game then raph and donnie in the second unless you knew exactly what you were doing
Everyone involved in the dev team signed off on that choice. Even Nickelodeon themselves did it.
As said previously Nickelodeon didn't want all the wacky unpredictable stuff, it was Ludosity who fought for it. Nickelodeon just didn't put their foot down hard enough.
And that's why I think Nick forced them to trim the roster down to 25 as opposed to having like 36 characters with all 4 turtles.
This leap in logic is seriously a dose of copium to white knight the developers.
And this post reeks of pure spite and a hateboner towards Thaddeus that it ignores evidence that Nick has meddled with the game in the past.
So what you're saying is you would rather have a game with no turtles but instead April and Shredder? That sounds like it would cause even more complaining than we already got.
>So what you're saying is you would rather have a game with no turtles but instead April and Shredder? That sounds like it would cause even more complaining than we already got.
no just do what capcom did, just put their villain in put shredder in the game, people ask why shredder and not the turtles "the roster is to small we had to make a choice and including 4 turtles would take spots away from other franchises" April should NEVER be in the plans until after all 4 turtles got in and even then casey and splinter before her. People would understand why we just got shredder no one gets pissed when doom got in mvc and the FF never made it. But I see your just a dick rider and will defend all of these dumb choices so have a nice day
>They should have added in only Shredder and off yourself
What a great idea. Limit Nick's second most popular franchise to a singular roster slot and not even a Turtle. Very productive conversation we had here.
>You're ignoring the evidence of the devs going out of their way to not add all four turtles, evidence provided by the developers themselves.
That was NASB1 when they had less experience and didn't have previous movesets/models to go off of. Again, this seems like spite rather than giving the developers the benefit of the doubt.
Also, why are you going so hard on NASB1 like it means anything? Even Thaddeus himself didn't like what they did with NASB1, hence why they decided to go back to the base Slap City engine.
>What a great idea. Limit Nick's second most popular franchise to a singular roster slot and not even a Turtle. Very productive conversation we had here.
the turtles weren't in cod either and no one is complaining there the Fantastic four were one of the biggest series marvel had and yet never made it to mvc but their villain did because people understood 4 slots versus 1. But not you, your a moron who is trying to defend all of their dumb choices
the turtles weren't in cod either
I don't care what random collabs they do with Call of Duty. That shit has plenty of gay collab choices anyways like Nicki Manaj and Snoop Dog.
>and no one is complaining there the Fantastic Four were one of the biggest series marvel had and yet never made it to mvc but their villain did because people understood 4 slots versus 1.
Oh come on, I'll give you Super-Skrull but Dr. Doom is considered to be debatably the most popular villain in the Marvel universe. The guy is clearly more popular than any individual member of the Fantastic Four (Actually, he's probably more popular than all of them combined). Did you know that Doom was one of the first Marvel characters Fortnite collaborated with too?
>your a moron who is trying to defend all of their dumb choices
No, I just hate Rosterhomosexualry. I care about actual things that will impact my experience like the lack of alts in the base game or whether the online is good.
Not that Anon but the roster does effect player experience for a lot of people.
Why else do you think MCI failed?
MvCI didn't just fail because of the roster. It also failed because it looked visually worse and competitive players hated the gameplay (They moved from 3v3 to 2v2)
It also was a victim of bad marketing and strong competition (DBFZ, Injustice 2).
Lets be real here, the roster was hands down the biggest issue everyone had with the game and is by far the most vocal complaint to this day.
>competitive players hated the gameplay
They said it was the most fun MVC game.
I still think that if the graphics didn't look straight out of a mobile game MvCI could have been saved.
>That was NASB1 when they had less experience and didn't have previous movesets/models to go off of.
So? That doesn't change the fact that they admitted to not wanting all four turtles.
>Again, this seems like spite rather than giving the developers the benefit of the doubt.
Why should i give them the benefit of the doubt when they themselves state how they don't want all four turtles?
>Also, why are you going so hard on NASB1 like it means anything?
Because the information about the developer's design philosophy for the roster we got from NASB1 devs clearly still stands with NASB2.
>Even Thaddeus himself didn't like what they did with NASB1, hence why they decided to go back to the base Slap City engine.
What the frick are you even talking about? We aren't talking about the engine or gameplay or any of that stuff, we're talking about the roster and the dev's not wanting all four turtles.
>So? That doesn't change the fact that they admitted to not wanting all four turtles
They never said they didn't want all four turtles in NASB2. Sakurai once said he didn't want Ridley in Smash because he was too big. Things can change.
What the frick are you even talking about? We aren't talking about the engine or gameplay or any of that stuff, we're talking about the roster and the dev's not wanting all four turtles
Fair point, but I was mostly emphasizing that the devs were clearly unhappy about NASB1. They might have planned for all four turtles in NASB2, but Nick being Nick likely told them to bring the roster down to 25.
>They never said they didn't want all four turtles in NASB2. Sakurai once said he didn't want Ridley in Smash because he was too big. Things can change.
Yet there's still not all four turtles in the game so clearly things have not changed.
Also that Sakurai comparison doesn't really work, It'd be more accurate if we did get all four turtles but we didn't.
>Fair point, but I was mostly emphasizing that the devs were clearly unhappy about NASB1.
Agreed.
>They might have planned for all four turtles in NASB2, but Nick being Nick likely told them to bring the roster down to 25.
Even with a limit of only 25 characters (Plus four DLC characters that were pretty much decided with the rest of the roster) the devs still made the conscious choice to not have all four turtles.
And to be fair on that limit i doubt the devs would be able to work on over 30 characters at once all from scratch.
You always blame everything on spite huh? I didn't even mention Thaddeus. You're ignoring the evidence of the devs going out of their way to not add all four turtles, evidence provided by the developers themselves.
if we had 36 we still wouldn't have all 4 turtles because they don't want to do it, no matter how many people say the roster looks incomplete.
Nick is anal about certain things, they gave the game 4 slots for TMNT for an obvious reason and then ludosity argued to not do all 4 turtles, Nick doesn't care they just don't want non canon things in the game. Gertie was suggested by nick but was not required by nick the devs were the ones who thought it would be hilarious and put her in. These devs suck because they focus on the worst possible picks in the game
>Gertie was suggested by nick but was not required by nick
According to an insider even this is a stretch of truth due to no one talking about the dev's involvement in the decision.
It was the developers who brought her up in the first place and Nickelodeon just allowed them to use that option.
That makes way more sense, actually. I think Nickelodeon's involvement was they wanted 2 Hey Arnold reps and Ludosity didn't want to do Arnold or reuse Helga, so they suggested a bunch of other characters including something funny like the kung fu fighting granny. Nickelodeon's execs probably thought that was hilarious and that kids would love something that random, so Ludosity pretty much had no choice because it was not like they were against silly meme picks.
Makes infinitely more sense than some Nick exec arbitrarily saying "Oh, and Gertie has to be in the game" and Ludosity helplessly had to follow their orders.
okay, but are there any leaks confirming who the dlc characters might be? any sort of hint?
taunts just add a slime effect to regular taunts
than that, it does absolutely nothing except wastes an entire slime meter just so players can flex on their opponents, or as he says "BM/tilt the weak-willed"
I like this, it's like charging in a dragon ball game
Charging fills up your meter in Fighterz, so no, it's nothing like that.
>Slime taunts just add a slime effect to regular taunts
>Other than that, it does absolutely nothing except wastes an entire slime meter just so players can flex on their opponents, or as he says "BM/tilt the weak-willed"
That's cool, I always wanted something like that in Smash or other games
>If there's four kids out there who're all Squidward fans want to play as him then they're going to need daddy's credit card for all four of them to be able to play as Squidward
I'm still going to refuse to believe this until the game comes out. They would have had to flat out manually program the select screen to deny your character selection for this to be accurate, which seems like a waste of time/stupid thing to do.
I hate to do obvious Smash comparisons, but
>Super Smash Bros Ultimate: Each character has alts (largely color changes, but some have different costumes) - $60
>Nick All Star Brawl 2: Each character has two alts - Probably $60 with extra money for each character's third costume + Spongebob having an extra one locked to the Season Pass.
>Also, if you don't pre-order, you lose Patrick's exclusive alt
You don't just lose Pat's alt, you lose the abolity to play as him AT ALL in a 3/4 way mirror match.
>which seems like a waste of time/stupid thing to do.
Yes, because these devs known for such intelligent decision making.
>If you want every costume for the DLC characters then you're going to have to pay for extra DLC for the DLC
>pay for costumes that don't affect the game
This is just terrible in every single way what we're they thinking?!
>Zim's human disguise might no longer be a costume due to it being implemented into his moveset
Have you yet found what it does or at least some info on Zim's moveset? The devs keep him hidden for some reason.
>Although Gir's dog disguise has been spotted
As an NPC?
Is Elastic Waistband included with Ultimate?
Pre order exclusive.
Can you preorder the Ultimate one?
I think you can make digital pre orders so yes.
>If there's four kids out there who're all Squidward fans want to play as him then they're going to need daddy's credit card for all four of them to be able to play as Squidward
The first game didn't have extra skins at launch and just had the characters look the same but you could still play as them. This has to be bullshit because there's no reason to change that. While I'm sure a lot of information in the OP is valid regarding the roster, speculation like this is mixed in
>4 player game has only 3 skins available, the other has to be bought, meaning people playing the same character will still have the problem which requires costumes in the first place
>DLC characters have DLC costumes
>it’s all on disc DLC meaning it’s the same exact shit that Capcom got rightly torn apart over on SFXTekken
I just can’t believe any company can actually be this moronic that I’m going to cope and not believe this until launch day confirms it
Nick is new to modern gaming please understand.
>new
They haven't embraced the worst of the worst yet.
's no chance that Catdog or Real Monsters will return in any way shape or form
Man, what the frick. I was hoping for playable Ickis
>Leaker also implies that one of the four DLC characters might just be Rocksteady from TMNT
Holy fricking shit, that would ACTUALLY be the worst. Rocksteady is literally a duo act with Bebop. Not only are they stripping him of his gimmick, they're doing it at the expense of ADDING THE REST OF THE FRICKING TURTLES!
I guess Nickelodeon doesn't like the idea of having 4 turtles in a single fighting game.
More like Ludosity doesn't like that idea.
It's more likely that Nick limited the number of characters they could put in the base roster, and Ludosity decided to limit TMNT to 2 turtles + April.
Well that's fair but if it turns out one of the DLC characters is TMNT then that'd be bullshit.
its ludosity, they said during nick all star brawl ones development they were given 4 slots for the turtles and had no intention to include all 4 turtles because they didn't have to complete a set. what the frick kind of dev knows people expect a certain group as a packaged deal and then doesn't do it just to subvert expectations. But then does it fricking twice while leaving april in. Look at marvel the Fantastic four are a packaged deal you don't see many games include them because its either all our none of them, but they don't put fricking herbie in they put dr doom in
>Look at marvel the Fantastic four are a packaged deal you don't see many games include them because its either all our none of them, but they don't put fricking herbie in they put dr doom in
This.
During the development of MVC3 the devs wanted to include all four of the Fantastic Four but didn't because that'd be too much.
So they thought about just using one instead but decided against it because they're supposed to be a team and having only one wouldn't feel right.
This is how we got Super Skrull. The devs decided to use him instead because he has all of their powers.
exactly, but look who capcom picked, they picked super skrull and doctor doom, they didn't pick the things blind girlfriend or herbie they picked two popular villains. The team at ludosity can say whatever they want about wanting variety but this variety is killing their games reception. we shouldn't have gertie and gerald over fricking helga or arnold, lincoln should be in over lucy, April should never be in over all 4 turtles and shredder. They think they are being clever but no in reality they are being fricking morons but now that it was revealed that gertie was suggested by nickelodeon people are defending every choice going "iT wAs NiCk NoT lUdoSiTy"
They had four last game. Bullshit excuse.
So wait, is the new game just adding characters to the roster or straight up replacing/removing characters like Smash did previously?
Because they couldn't seriously have thought about removing DANNY PHANTOM himself from the game, but add two other characters from his franchise, right?
I thought the only character who replaced another character in Smash was Toon Link with Young Link (and maybe Rosalina with Ice Climbers)
Rosalina didn't replace Ice Climbers, they were meant to be in Smash 4 but had to be cut due to 3DS hardware limitations.
>Replace Toph with Azula
>Replace Helga with Gerald
>Replace two turtles with other two turtles
>Cut Lincoln the main character of Nick's 2nd most popular current airing cartoon
What do you think?
>Shredder and Vlad have everything to be playable but aren’t because reasons
The weird “2 player characters for DP” thing sounds like Nick contract meddling is fricking with them, but even then why commit to Ember when you have Vlad ready to go?
As much as there is b***hing about Vlad and Shredder not being official fighters, at least theres hope that someone will have enough interest to at least mod em back into the game.
>That ghost rocker b***h who barely appeared on the cartoon is playable while Vlad is only puppeted around by the AI despite having a functioning moveset.
>Also Leo and Mike have been axed and Shredder is also now just an AI puppet.
Frick this I'll go play Multiversus once it's fully released.
One of the characters is probably a Loud House character if they think its mediocre. Most of the hardcores don't give a shit about Loud House
https://www.reddit.com/r/AllStarBrawl/comments/16odx65/possible_dlc_characters_based_on_what_we_know/
If that were really the case, my moneys on Luan, Ember already has the rock thing going. Krabs is a bgc, and I feel like Zuko would have hype.
>tfw is a bunch of Loud characters
Luan the clown has a moveset?
Whoopee cushions, rubber chickens, boxing glove arm, flower squirter, pies, Mr.Coconuts. it could work, better than fricking Gerald and he's getting in.
Well, the loud house castle was seen and Lucy still has the graveyard stage right? So, probably one of them that had some importance in that movie. I don’t remember anything about it.
Thing is, outside Lincoln, Lucy did have the most significance in the movie, being able to contact her dead relative.
It should be Bobby.
And then Lily, who is just a toddler, and Bobby.
Who does employ Rep then?
Fair Play Labs and Gamemill. Rep's just here because he wants to be but NASB 2 is more or less a Fair Play Labs game.
Leni Bros how are we coping?
In Leather Pants
Eh. In all honesty I figured this would be the case anyways so no skin off my nose.
Besides, dlc is always an option, even if unlikely.
Gavin is possibly bi.
Gavin is a b***hboy little homosexual!
>t. Chaz.
>All four DLC characters are going to be from shows already in the game, no new franchises
I'm glad this is just a leak so I can pray this isn't the case.
DLC character codename is Stevia, although the leaker says it has nothing to do with the character and no one will be able to guess who it is
It's damage control.
She's in.
Gonna start PUMPING BUTTS if the leak isn't posted
Gokubro btw
Pretty sad that Vlad and Shredder have basically complete movesets to be playable but are just bosses
>enemy character needs just a few tweaks to be turned into a playable character
>it never happens
This has to be one of the most soulless things I have ever seen in any game. No one gives a shit about "the plot" THAT much. They just want to tear shit up with another character. Why bother putting in all that time and resources for a glorified punching bag? In this case, Vlad and Shredder really should just be playable considering they are already on the cusp of being so. Shredder even more so, considering he was playable in the first game. Utter stupidity.
>Still can't play as all four ninja turtles
Why
April and Rocksteady were higher priority
This whole series SCREAMS cheap and rushed.
Like the game itself is being lead by Mr. Krabs himself.
lucy loud is going to die!!!!!!!!!in pain and despair because she is now the most unpopular sister and character and needs to die and will be the final hated villain that the world will unite to defeat and will be defeated and cast into the lake of fire and the louds will celebrate
>No Toph
Lame.
Thaddeus did nothing wrong.
There is a difference between Thaddeus the Game Developer and Thaddeus the actual person. Thaddeus the game dev did nothing wrong, but Thaddeus the person is a SJW chaser who is a narcissistic c**t.
give me some good news
>releases the same day as Mario and Spiderman
Shame, seems like they put a bit more effort into this one too. Would've just bitten the bullet and moved it to November.
It was delayed
No Membrane, no buy
>Introduce a new stage, The Loud Castle from the movie.
>Morag and Lela doesn't show up as bosses.
Does this mean DLC Boss is possible?
Maybe Morag is gonna be playable.
DLC:
Luan, Cindy, Rocksteady, Angelica, or Invader Tak
>YOU DARE SLIME TAUNT AT THE PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS??
Odie deconfirmed.
New leaked renders.
Post any TLH renders.
No Loud House renders.
Just this one.
Just this one.
Not a render.
Nope, just a moron.
>Mom found the piss drawer
I really want this game to be good, I hope we'll get at least one more game to flesh out the roster
The game is pretty much going to be MVCI where the gameplay s good but everything around it is a sea of shit.
>I hope we'll get at least one more game to flesh out the roster
It's pretty much confirmed that the next game will need an engine swap due to the Unity stuff so they'd have to build from scratch all over again, meaning just as many cuts as we got this time, if not more depending on how the switch from Unity to Unreal would be.
MVCI's gameplay wasn't all that great though. They altered the mechanics from 3 characters and 1 support to 2 characters with no support. Also, the game did not look all that visually great compared to MvC3.
At least this game seems to be a direct upgrade from the first one.
>At least this game seems to be a direct upgrade from the first one.
In everything but roster..
I wouldn't even be that upset if it wasn't for them deciding to cück themselves with DLC as well. There's zero reason to not reimplement the original cuts.
>b-b-but t-they s-s-should h-have b-been i-i-in t-t-the -b-b-base g-game s-so i-i-it's s-s-scammy t-t-to c-charge f-for
Bitch, we just want the characters. Funny how reselling characters from the first game that didn't make it to this one is the "scam" but releasing shitty mcnugget ass DLC characters in their stead is perfectly ethical. Redo that DLC poll and I guarantee you the 11 cuts would blow every other request out of the water.
this roster is way better than the first game's. it's only bad because the amount of cuts makes it a lot worse than it could be potentially, but i do think the roster is better overall. Plankton, jenny, tigre, jimmy, angry beavers. the new characters put it over the first.
any time now.
I think the biggest thing that made me go they don't fricking care is the fact that each character only has 3 alts, so if you want to play 4 player your stuck with 2 people playing with the same costume
I still think this is a Nick decision rather than a Ludosity/Thaddeus decision.
It reminds me of when Warner Bros. forced Multiversus to remove legendary skins from their battle passes and charge 20 dollars for them.
>I still think this is a Nick decision rather than a Ludosity/Thaddeus decision
Thaddeus didn't find out about it until last night from the leaks like everyone else. And he was pissed about it.
>We get Mrs. Puff and a literally who from El Tigre instead of Timmy Turner
What's wrong with them?
Ms. Puff is an NPC and Sartana is a boss battle.
What are some other "team characters" besides the turtles that are all or nothing?
Well there's Timmy, Cosmo and Wanda. And judging by the early concept art the devs are only interested in Wanda. So if we do get any FOP characters it'd most likely just be Wanda by herself.
>early concept art
You've got concept art? Post it anon. I'm ready.
Concept art for the first game made back in 2020.
>Casey Jones with Raph as TMNT reps (a lone Turtle is fine, it's when you have more than one that the absence of the others stands out more)
>Angelica
>Jimmy
>Krumm
>Wanda
>Regina
>Rocco and Jenny in base game
Unironically a better roster than what we got
I'd love any FOP reps, but uhhh....
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Why Wanda, exactly? There's at least 4 or 5 other characters in FOP who'd I'd be down with before Wanda. And before "female representation", Vicky is one of them.
Was this all dev preference or something?
>Was this all dev preference or something?
Well the original concept art was made by the devs.
>Wanda by herself
I rather have Crimson Chin or Crash Nebula before Solo Wanda lol.
Well in terms of hero/villain dynamic Vlad has always been the Lex Luthor to Danny's Superman so in terms of hero vs villain it's Danny vs Vlad or nothing.
>thaddeus said he is glad this will be the last game he makes on unity
>if we get a third game it will be made from scratch again
>we will get 25 character roster again
just take the ip away from ludosity at this point
At least it makes slightly more sense in this case. Unity fricked everything up. They couldn't have possibly accounted for that happening.
Honestly at this point just shelve the entire thing and reboot it in a decade.
In a decade we'll probably have AI developed games. Rosterhomosexualry would probably not be a concern.
Nick either would need to actual care about the product or they would need a 50 year old lead on the team, because the biggest problem with smashgays seems to be going out of there way to include bizarre choices over the obvious ones. Goku and vegeta were the first two characters people modded in to smash ultimate over characters like Alucard, Zero etc because "haha funny meme sakurai said no to goku I will add him in myself" thats the mindset you havw to deal with right now
Frick people even wanted Goku in NASB.
Even Thaddeus alluded to the possibility of Goku being DLC for NASB1 in the HBox interview.
Either he knew damn well it was impossible and lied to create hype or he was dumb enough and full of himself to actually believe that he'd be able to get Goku in NASB.
It wasn't Goku specifically, it was 3rd parties in general.
He specifically mentioned Goku.
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/nickelodeon-all-star-brawl-goku-dlc/
No he didn't. Hbox asked him on the possibility of 3rd parties and brought Goku as an example. Either way, Thaddeus just said "lips are sealed" a vague non answer since he's under NDA in general.
Well he could have at least clarified that there's no way they'd be able to get Goku and not let that news spread like it did.
Pretty sure confirming who can and can't be DLC for the first game contradicts the non disclosure agreement.
I doubt saying that Goku would be impossible wouldn't be that big of a deal.
>bizarre choices over the obvious ones.
>Goku and vegeta were the first two characters people modded in to smash ultimate over characters like Alucard, Zero etc
At least Goku and Vegeta are main character of their own property with immense mainstream popularity; while not exactly "Smash appropriate", they're are far from "bizarre".
A more "bizzare" pick would be characters like Videl or Chi-Chi OVER Goku and Vegeta.
>tfw the first mod for Smash Wii U was Mr. Krabs
More like Appule and Fasha because those would be the true WTF picks like Gertie
I still don't think people understand just how fricking shit some of these decisions are
Shut your fricking troonsucking mouth, Thaddeus
Vlad deserved better.
>Get heavily featured in a graphic novel released just a month or two ago
>Lose out on being playable to Ember in the crossover fighting game
Funny how the timing worked out.
Only one piece of concept art? No fanart of the game? Why bother discussing it if the characters can't even interact with each other.
Here's your NASB2 fanart.
Lol yeah
>Vlad isn't even playable
that's why he looks so upset
I know they obviously wouldn't directly reference Nicktoons Unite (and even if they did, Crocker is never ever when they can't even get Timmy), but it would've been nice to at least have half the Syndicate playable.
There's still a chance for Calamitous, right?
Technically, yeah. Jimmy is part of the roster and apparently the DLC is based on shows already in the game.
Where's Tommy?
I don't care who else is in the roster because my man Zim is still here.
based Zimchad
Perhaps.
think they'll give him the cheese ray?
No, too OP
Also lethal
showcase tomorrow?
Don't count on it.
Honestly, with all these cuts and changes I'm surprised Reptar's still on the roster.
Who doesn't like dinosaurs that can sing?
I WANT ALL 11 CHARACTERS BACK IN THE GAME
What did he mean by this?
Hahaha I can't wait to hear the "why" once the game is out.
>blik emoji
>no blik in game
wtf
It's been said by the devs early in NASB1's hype cycle that if fans of a show don't get anything in the game then hopefully they'll be able to have fun with all the Discord emojis from the shows.
what is he talking about
>dlc characters
>cuts
>npcs/bosses
>story mode
>game mechanics
he is talking about the dlc since we know the cuts are legit, and people are worried the dlc will be shit picks now
Well considering his attitude towards people who don't like Arnold's grandma i think he's just being defensive over what're most likely bad character choices again.
>The original question prompting this was "are there any misconceptions you would like to clear up?"
>Blik Emote
>No Blik fighter
You know how Smash uses assist trophy for characters people want as playable?
Well Discord emotes are the NASB equivalent.
They could basically just complete disrupt all the leak complaints by having a character reveal but have a cut character like Toph or Lincoln as the opponent
But we know that isn't happening despite the initial trailer even having Toph in it
Are you happy loudgays?
>literally lost a rep despite being one of the more popular franchises as of late
>no NPCs at all despite the wealth of characters to draw from
>Already barely even considered the first time around, seems like zero fricks given this time
No, not really. But I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Just would have been nice to see another character get some spotlight.
Here's your NPC bro
Yay.
You're telling me. We Lucybros are carrying this game alone, and it's not fun. I was hoping we'd get two more characters, not cut one of them, let alone that one being big bro.
I honestly feel bad for you Lucybros. I know it'd be better if there were more groups celebrating the game but it's hard when every Nickelodeon fanbase is hating on the game, including the Loud House fanbase itself.
While i am not really excited for the game myself, in fact i hate it, you still have my sympathy Lucybros.
Lucygays have been having a rough one lately.
>massive fandom effort to get her absolved of her role in NSL, even gets Chris Savino and Kyle Marshall's support, even gets nearly a thousand petition signatures in under a month, which no other Loud House signature has ever come close to doing with loads of fans already considering it canon regardless — insider says it's never going to happen because Nick doesn't listen to fandoms especially after Savinogate, no one on the inside even remembers old episodes and doesn't browse the fandom beyond a single Loud House tag on Twitter occasionally
>Lucy turned out to be the #1 most popular sister by a crazy wide margin according to Nickelodeon's own internal polling — because of the Morticians Club and everything Lucygays hate about Lucy's episodes after season 3, meaning when Lucy gets more focus, it'll be of the most boring part of the show
> Now NASB2 imbroglio, only Loud House rep, might even be the only ever rep if Ludosity is incompetent enough to ignore DLC for the others, but that just puts a target on her back among the fandom
Pyrrhic victory if there ever was one.
what the frick is nsl?
Don't worry about it. It's just a shitty episode from the Savino era that loads of butthurt gays can't move on from.
Just Google "Lucy Loud No Such Luck"
Better yet, just a direct link
Kinda sad seeing Savino nowadays knowing what we know. He seems fine, but tired. I'd be too. Considering he literally would have stayed on the show if not for Cartoon Brew and the entire media apparatus trying to make him out to be the cartoon version of Harvey Weinstein
Remember when Cartoon Brew fricking doxxed Rebecca Sugar and Ian JQ just for a news story? That site is pure fricking cancer, a pox on animation as a whole.
Cartoon Brew gave us bronies
What did lucy have to do with the worst episode of the series? It was all lynn and leni’s fault.
>What did lucy have to do with the worst episode of the series
That's literally the point. Some autists did what apparently no NSLgay did in years and actually watched the episode and read the script and discovered that Lucy said and did so incredibly little that it became confusing whether she ever believed any of it at all because the episode was a clusterfrick.
The Loud House's version of that Proud Family episode that set twitter off about child abuse, locking out their kid and stuff. But unlike the Proud Family, only Loudgays even care about it and they spent years venting about it in the form of hotly autistic fanfiction until some fellows grew brain cells and had the common sense to ask the creator about it instead.
Proud Family being as shit as the Loud House, it's impressive its version got more infamy, but that's probably because Disney proudly (kek) flaunted that shit for the world to enjoy.
For this time, you're right VladAnon.
Almost all of the nicktoons communities are raging at the cuts because some of them were their mains or favorite characters, there were fricking 11 cuts for god's sake, the bosses aren't playable either, and the campaign mode the devs teased must suck ass too because no interactions, the main core for said campaign, and other things too.
The only thing that kept me invested is that my boy Zim was in the game, and the ''improved'' gameplay and graphics, if my main wasn't playable, i would dropped this too.
Hey, ZimAnon. Good to see you're still around.
>For this time, you're right
Ah. I apologies if i have been a big homosexual in these threads.
I have a lot of passion for the Nicktoons and everything that happened with this mind broke me.
I'm not trying to excuse myself, just want to give an explanation.
>loudgay for the goth has more self respect about their rep and its implications than the dev shill trying to """defend""" TMNT
Autism
I'm honestly surprised that Nick let them cut Lincoln
They should put their foot down more.
DLC (season 1) predictions (based on cutting room floor's unused announcer calls):
>Spongebob: Mermaid man, Barnacle boy
>Avatar: Sokka, Zuko, Katara, Iroh, Jet, Roku, King Bumi
>Rugrats: Tommy, Angelica, Chuckie, Susie
>Jimmy Neutron: Cindy Vortex
>Danny Phantom: Skulker
>TMNT: Bebop, Rocksteady, Casey Jones
>The Wild Thornberrys: Eliza, Donnie thornberry
>Rocko: Filburt Turtle
>Season 1
Will it even get a season 2?
Yeah they clearly said it in the website
But will it actually happen?
The platform fighter audience in a nutshell.
Reptar stays so I'm fine
are there any good nick games
Tak and the power of Juju is Kino, just make sure you play one of the first three and not guardians of gross
Listen, you phag8s, you don't understand what it's like. You think you can just sit in your triple wide gaming chairs jerking off and magically get a finished AAA game out of the ether. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. This is a game being built from the ground up by people who genuinely ARE fans of the properties that are being represented, who want to make the best damn game they can. Sacrifices had to be made, and not all our dreams can come true at once. But the fact you're all so defeated by these little details shows everyone just how much you really care. You're not as jaded as you think you are. 🙂
fans? They don't even watch the shows.
>phag8s
>how do we represent the turtles
>lets include april before shredder casey splinter or even all 4 turtles
>well we put to turtles in should we watch the show to reference it?
>frick no just steal moves from the konami games and some moves from smash and call it a day
>what about costumes?
>just do a black and white skin to reference the comics and google tmnt toys and make costumes based off them
they don't give two shits about the shows
That's a stupid nitpick, the Konami games were iconic it makes perfect sense to use them. Not only that, but they didn't really take moves from Smash.
even injustice used more moves from the show then this game, and the konami FIGHTING game is not iconic, its a broken mess stop being moronic. also they straight up said on discord raphaels final smash is based on links from brawl
Take your own advice and stop being a dishonest moron. The Konami fighting game brought iconic moves for the turtles, it makes sense to use them. And now I know you're being a dishonest fricktard, the turtles actively reference the show in both the first game and the second game. Mikey for example literally had a special based off his shell spin from the intro and the turtle line as easy examples.
>All you can think of is the super which is the most generic "rush and hit multiple times" that fighting games had since forever
Concession accepted
Thaddeus, it's time to go to baby, sweetheart.
movesets are almost entirely memes, from the first episode of the show, or clones of smash characters
False and dishonest.
I'm about to frick your skull with this tool I found
>phag8s
Be nice guys, this anon is a massive pussy. He can't say homosexual like the normal kids do.
>phag8s
Go to work on the game, umbshit dev
Your game will be dead within weeks if any of these leaks are true.
Hey Thaddeus can you tell nick to stop being moronic and let you make Vlad playable?
>phag8s
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/646329218/#646341476
work on your game moron
>This is a game being built from the ground up by people who genuinely ARE fans of the properties that are being represented, who want to make the best damn game they can.
Cool. Hey, on an entirely different note, wanna explain why Nick pushed for Gertie to get in? Or why the bosses aren't playable? Specifically Vlad, who was a fan favorite, and Shredder, who was PLAYABLE IN THE FRICKING FIRST GAME?
>phag8s
I'm not buying your game.
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE ANON-SAMA TASUKETEEEEE WITHOUT YOUR MONEY MY BOYFRIEND WILL STOP LETTING ME SUCK HIS DICK PLEASE HAVE MERCY I'LL ADD IN EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER YOU WANT I'LL EVEN RESTORE THE CUT CHARACTERS FROM THE FIRST GAME AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
>I’ll just continue doing what I do best: keep adding dumb shit
>people who genuinely ARE fans of the properties that are being represented
>Who the frick cares about having all four turtles? Honestly. People act like it's a grave oversight but nobody's convincingly explained why TMNT representing more than four nearly identical green ninjas like in every other game without taking up fricking five or six spots on the roster is a bad thing without going "You just HAVE to!" or "You'll anger... The fans!"
>Autism
Why did you lie about cross play, Thaddeus
Is that how you jerk off? Look homies dead in the eyes and tell them lies?
I can only get off if I constantly disappoint people and make myself look like a giant flaming homosexual in the process.
Thaddeus btw
> phag8s
Dats wiggity, wiggity, wiggity, wiggity, wiggity, wiggity, wiggity wack, Thaddy yo
>phag8s
A poem!
There once was a sad sack of sod
Who failed like a sad sack of sod
His head shaped like weed
His presence like that of weed
Thaddeus was a sad sack of sod
More soul and passion in those stanzas than the entirety of NASB2's catastrophic development
this poem
>funny
>has heart
>sovl
>interesting
>has Lincoln
NASB2
>none of these things
>Thaddeus
>
Go back.
>phag8s
>phag8s
its all so tiresome
>phag8s
>HE FLED
>628
>phag8s
i dropped the show hard around the time they went "oh yeah lincoln was born in the car of the fricking US president", have they actually shown lucy's eyes on the show or is this an edit
what the frick?
The episode is "Not A Loud". I'm just going to paste the summary I found when looking the episode name up:
"After Rita's water broke, they called Pop-Pop to keep an eye on Lincoln's older sisters, while Lynn Sr. drove Rita to the hospital in Vanzilla. Unsurprisingly, the van ended up breaking down on the side of the road. As Lynn Sr. tried to signal someone for help, a black limousine pulled up. Much to Lynn Sr.'s amazement, the President and the First Lady were in the limousine. After explaining their predicament to them, they agreed to drive Rita and Lynn Sr. to the hospital. However, during the course of the ride, it became apparent that they wouldn't make it to the hospital in time for Rita to give birth to Lincoln. The President initially stepped up to the task of delivering Lincoln, but he (along with Lynn Sr.) passed out in the process, so the First Lady stepped up, and successfully delivered Lincoln. After explaining the story, Rita and Lynn Sr. apologize for not telling their son the story of his birth sooner, because the President was heading to a top secret safe house in Royal Woods that day, and Rita and Lynn Sr. were forced to sign an agreement to never speak of the story to anyone."
I don't get it, what's so bad about this?
The show was decently grounded in its scenarios prior to this in spite of the show's unrealistic premise, so having the reveal that Lincoln was delivered by the fricking First Lady of the United States felt like a huge slap in the face after the other premises the show had.
And from what I've read the show only got worse with shoving in zany fantastical scenarios as it went on. Doesn't the movie have actual wizard shit happening?
I didn't watch the movie but I think so.
It definitely isn't as grounded as it used to be but that's not most of the time if I recall.
Gotta love Flanderization.
The movie actually has a dragon.
Remember when Lincoln was just a normal kid who happened to have white hair? I remember.
>Ghosts are real now.
They did fricking what?
Not even an edit, just fanart
The amount of seethe some people have built inside them for a goth kid is absurd.
I think it's cute aggression.
Frick that, make the game NOTHING but animals.
Something something when a man's salary depends on not understanding something, blah blah
>Frick that, make the game NOTHING but animals.
I accept. Gary mains rise up
Magic Goldfish mains where you at?
>Frick that, make the game NOTHING but animals
Catscratch bros where you at?
>Frick that, make the game NOTHING but animals.
>The Loud House rep is Fangs, with Sergio as an NPC
>I kneel
>I squeal
>My fighter isn't real
>I cope
>I mope
>Someone hand me a rope
>I sin
>I never win
>My game belongs in a trash bin
>I stutter
>I wonder
>Why I trashed half the first game's roster
>I'm mad
>My boss sucks off a man
>I am...
>A Gamemill gay...
if they wanted this game to barely succeed they had to go 110% at it because of the last shitshow, this meant no cuts, fan favorite newcomers, better gameplay and better content
there's no way this will succeed with the reputation of nasb 1
They ruined it the moment they revealed they cut ELEVEN fricking characters from the first game.
They didn't even reveal it themselves, it all got leaked.
Every casual fan who doesn't keep tab on leaks are gonna be disappointed.
Currently working on what a *proper* Nickelodeon fighting game's roster should look like. Nowhere near done yet, obviously, but here's what I have so far.
Where is Doodlebob you homosexual
He can be an alt for SpongeBob.
if leni is in the game, i don't care about the 11 cuts or how smoothly it runs, it'll have mostly all my favorite nicktoons aside from angelica who is out of contention anyways. ember, azula, and squidward were already great additions though, i'm totally buying this game regardless of what the DLC is.
ooh, this is kind of a fun idea, i loved making smash rosters as a kid. just pls don't forget jenny!
Just put Zim, and maybe Gir too if you want, and we're okay
>out of 30 characters, only six shows are represented
I don't even like NASB2's roster, but this shit is fricking garbage.
I'm not done with it yet, you knob. I said that right there in the post.
Swap Flying Dutchman for Mermaid Man. Yes I know his VA is dead, but if it's an ideal roster he should be there
It's still a horrible fricking list, shortbus. This has the exact opposite issue NASB has. I'd rather have a smaller roster that tries to cover as many bases as it can over an overly bloated mess that just stuffs in every Nick character in existence like you're clearly trying to do.
Actually NASB's rosters are still quite bloated. It's just not as bloated as that guy's roster.
Although to be fair his roster seems to be thinking long term as in it'd be a fifth installment roster if no one got cut.
I know it's the biggest show, but there is no need to bring the side characters of Spongebob in. Keep it to the main 6 and leave it at that.
TMNT is fine to keep at 6, but the best solution for the Turtles would be to bring them from 4 different eras so there is visual difference between them.
For Avatar, there's 4 elements, so you only need 4 characters. Katara provides nothing that Korra doesn't already, same with Zuko for Azula. Keep it at Aang, Toph, Korra and Azula.
The Rugrat babies just don't work in this setting like Reptar can. I would go Bowser Jr in Smash for them. Put them in a single rider version of the Reptar car from the movie, and the skins swap which baby is sat inside. You MIGHT be able to push for Angelica to be her own character. Go super out there and have the All Grown Up version of Angelica or Dil for more show coverage and get around that pesky ESRB issue of having Shredder slicing at a 1 year old.
Timmy is fairly useless without his Fairies, basically just another Lincoln. He should be a summon style character, where Wanda and Cosmo keep flying in to do his attacks for him. Frees up a sport either for Crocker, Vicky or rbrn Crimson Chin.
Danny reps are perfect at 3. Same with the Monsters.
Not that Anon but i wanna give my thoughts on what you said.
>I know it's the biggest show, but there is no need to bring the side characters of Spongebob in. Keep it to the main 6 and leave it at that.
I understand but at the same time the side characters are still a big part of the franchise, not as big as the main six but still quite big and they're pretty popular and iconic as well.
It'd be like limting Mario to only six characters in Smash.
>TMNT is fine to keep at 6, but the best solution for the Turtles would be to bring them from 4 different eras so there is visual difference between them.
100% agreed.
>For Avatar, there's 4 elements, so you only need 4 characters. Katara provides nothing that Korra doesn't already, same with Zuko for Azula. Keep it at Aang, Toph, Korra and Azula.
No offence but this tells me you didn't watch the show or at least didn't pay attention.
Even people who bend the same element don't share the same fight styles.
Katara's fighting is less aggressive and in your face as Korra's, and Korra's the Avatar so she can do more than just water.
Zuko and Azula are very different too. They're fighting styles are based off of two different forms of martial arts respectively with Azula being more acrobatic and all over the place while Zuko being more grounded and sticking to one area, not to mention Zuko being a trained duel blade wielder and Azula having lightning.
Azula fights like a fighter jet while Zuko fights like a tank.
>The Rugrat babies just don't work in this setting like Reptar can. I would go Bowser Jr in Smash for them. Put them in a single rider version of the Reptar car from the movie, and the skins swap which baby is sat inside. You MIGHT be able to push for Angelica to be her own character. Go super out there and have the All Grown Up version of Angelica or Dil for more show coverage and get around that pesky ESRB issue of having Shredder slicing at a 1 year old.
Again, 100% agreed.
>Timmy is fairly useless without his Fairies, basically just another Lincoln. He should be a summon style character, where Wanda and Cosmo keep flying in to do his attacks for him. Frees up a sport either for Crocker, Vicky or rbrn Crimson Chin.
Also agreed. But i think Timmy's moveset would be less like a summoner, but still be out there, like Cosmo turning into a hammer for some of Timmy's attacks like in Battle for Volcano Island, and Wanda turning into a skateboard.
>Danny reps are perfect at 3. Same with the Monsters.
Eh, there really doesn't need to be all three monsters, the show isn't that big.
But Danny Phantom is a show that'd be best with four characters. Danny and Vlad being the essentials along with another villain and another hero.
NASB is fun largely because of the deep cuts. Strange decisions are made and they go too far sometimes, but it's more interesting this way than if they just want for exactly what you would expect nick would do
Thaddeus btw
I’m tranz btw
If they exactly what was expected then they'd have more players.
It's better to be safe than sorry and being unpredictable and wacky is something that should only happen once a series is established enough to get away with it.
It should only happen when you have your base.
They should have had the original cast, plus the new ones as "wacky" choices.
Stop using players as some sort of "gotcha" against the roster. Nobody dropped NASB 1 because of its roster its because of it being a fundamentally bad game with broken online, no content, and a swarm of clunky issues even in its gameplay. It was not newcomer friendly at all.
The reaction to NASB2 proves that even with all of that fixed it doesn't matter when the roster is bad, so yeah, the roster is capable of driving away players.
That's just wrong. A lot of stuff being fixed has given it a surprising amount of attention after how hard NASB 1 burned people. Many people who didn't even buy the game is finding NASB 2 potentially interesting.
The attention NASB2 is getting is far less then NASB1 and the bad press with the leaks is just getting it more hated, especially with the Nickelodeon fanbases.
It's still a lot of attention regardless of whatever lightning in the bottle attention NASB 1 had. Not only that, but plenty of people who did NOT buy NASB 1 wants to get NASB 2 and NASB 2 won't instantly die at launch like the first game. "More hated" is a dishonest narrative. It's moreso disappointment and disbelief with many of those same people across social media admitting they're gonna buy the game regardless.
>NASB 2 won't instantly die at launch like the first game.
Pic related.
>"More hated" is a dishonest narrative.
From what i'm seeing people across the internet who's apart of any Nick fandom is pissed in one way or another.
>It's moreso disappointment and disbelief with many of those same people across social media admitting they're gonna buy the game regardless.
Yeah, NASBgays don't have standards. We already knew this.
>Pic related
Concession accepted, you don't know why the first game died and it shows. NASB 2 has actual staying power.
>Who's apart of any Nick fandom is pissed in one way or another
And those same people want to get the game anyway because their favorite character is in it. Plenty of fans aren't even mad either. The ones that are just happen to be vocal, but reminder, criticism =/= hate. NASB 1 had a lot of hefty criticism before launch and that game still sold with a lot of potential to do well.
>Concession accepted
Ah yes, the go to buzzwords for those too afraid of losing debates.
Fricking pussy.
>you don't know why the first game died and it shows. NASB 2 has actual staying power.
You keep saying why yet it's complete BS since the controversy around NASB2 is already making it guaranteed to be less successful than NASB1.
>And those same people want to get the game anyway because their favorite character is in it. Plenty of fans aren't even mad either. The ones that are just happen to be vocal, but reminder, criticism =/= hate. NASB 1 had a lot of hefty criticism before launch and that game still sold with a lot of potential to do well.
You do know that not every Nick fan's standards are as low as the Discord cope brigade, right?
>NASB2 is already making it guaranteed to be less successful than NASB1.
the game has far improved graphics and voice acting, which were the primary complaints surrounding the first game's launch. the bad presentation made the first game sell pretty bad, the roster didn't save a goddamn thing.
i feel like you're trying to rewrite history here, because NSAB was not very successful and the roster barely impacted how successful or not successful it was. people said it had no budget and for them to try again once they had money.
The graphics and voice acting don't mean anything when everything else surrounding it is bull shit.
the first game proves that graphics and voice acting and functional online matter more than just about anything else.
And NASB2 will prove that it'll mean jack shit when it's surrounded by a mediocre roster, bad DLC practices and a lame campaign mode.
the first game didn't have any of those problems and bombed. what will stop these games from bombing?
You do know that replacing one problem with another isn't fixing problems, it's creating new ones.
Says the moron using random images and buzzwords like "cope", don't pretend your argument was in good faith in the getgo, pussy.
>Yet its completely bs because muh controversy
NASB 1 had worse controversy than this. The lack of voice acting exploded, it was all the fans could talk about. On every single NASB 1 video there were hundreds of comments going "voice acting? where's the voice acting? I can't enjoy or buy the game if there's no voice acting" How ugly and non functional the game was turned away many potential buyers. NASB 2, unlike NASB 1, will have actual players even if it does or does not sell as much. The roster didn't do shit for the first game when the game was so dogshit that many buyers ditched it or never bought it to begin with.
>Says the moron using random images and buzzwords like "cope", don't pretend your argument was in good faith in the getgo
If you're coping then you're coping. What else is there to say.
>pussy
Says the guy who can't handle opposing views.
>NASB 1 had worse controversy than this
Bull fricking shit, don't lie, you and i both know that what's happening to the NASB community right now has been more of a disaster than anything NASB1 brought.
Even the Discord would agree on this.
And if you lack a genuine counterpoint then all I can say is concession accepted, you have no idea what the frick you're talking about so all you can do is pretend your personal experience and belief reflects reality.
>Says the guy who can't handle opposing views
You are dismissing my points and my opinion because it doesn't align with yours, moron.
>Bull fricking shit
You weren't around for launch and how many people the game turned away and it shows.
>And if you lack a genuine counterpoint then all I can say is concession accepted
And like i said, if this is how you respond to people pointing out your coping then you're a pussy and you're afraid of this debate.
>you have no idea what the frick you're talking about so all you can do is pretend your personal experience and belief reflects reality.
Mother fricker everything i have said is based on what other people are saying.
>You are dismissing my points and my opinion because it doesn't align with yours,
That wasn't me dismissing what you were saying, that was just me calling you out on your coping.
>You weren't around for launch and how many people the game turned away and it shows
Mother fricker like i keep telling you i was one of the people who was hyping up the first game and bought it day one and kept playing for weeks.
I'm not afraid of a debate dumbass when I followed it up with further discussion. But keep projecting like the dishonest moron like you.
>Calling you out on your coping
Which you failed, because your dumbass forgot just how little staying power the OG NASB had that NASB 2 is rectifying.
>I was one of the people who was hyping up the first game
And it's clear you were blocking out the massive negativity this game got. Voice acting was a literal dealbreaker for hundreds if not thousands of players.
*like the dishonest moron you are
>I'm not afraid of a debate dumbass when I followed it up with further discussion. But keep projecting like the dishonest moron like you.
Projecting? But i'm keeping up with this as well. How does that make any sense?
>Which you failed, because your dumbass forgot just how little staying power the OG NASB had that NASB 2 is rectifying.
And like i keep telling you it still has it own worse problems now.
>And it's clear you were blocking out the massive negativity this game got
No. I knew it and even joined in once i got fed up with the game.
>Voice acting was a literal dealbreaker for hundreds if not thousands of players.
And the mediocre roster, barebones campaign and the bad DLC is going to be a bigger deal breaker for even more.
>How does that make any sense
Makes as much sense as calling someone a pussy over a meme statement. It's seriously pathetic to do that.
>It still has it own worse problems now
No it does not. NASB 1 had infinitely worse problems, it didn't even have functional online, it's one of the many reasons it lost 99% of its players.
>I knew it
Then you should know how much of a dealbreaker voice acting was.
>And the mediocre roster
most rostergays have actively admitted to not get the game either way or were getting the game regardless of cuts.
>barebones campaign
Still more content than the first game, the lack of content was a worse dealbreaker than NASB 2, but you keep being dumb enough to forget that.
I would make Cosmo and Wanda part of Timmy's moveset and add Vicky and Crocker.
Add Larry and Dennis, add some TMNT content from other shows, add Casey Jones and Karai, add Sokka, Tenzin, Bolin and Kuvira, add Crocker, Vickey and Crimson Chin, add Jimmy, Cindy, Sheen and Calamitous, add Zim and Dib, add Ren & Stimpy and Powdered Toast Man, add Lincoln and Ronnie Ann, add Tak.
Oh frick i forgot about Jenny and Vexus.
unfeasible and terrible
needs more series variety. i would outright remove half those benders, jorgen, cosmo/wanda, april, krabs, manray, tommy/chucky
this is why i won't shit on the roster we currently have. because it's still better than having spongebob/avatar characters devouring half the roster, they just needed to make better choices
Honestly SpongeBob deserves 9 characters.
You know what would be funny and pretty soulful?
A cameo (or playable third party character) of Finn the Human, either from the pilot rejected by Nickelodeon, or one that take only the personality/appeal from the first two or three seasons.
I want a roster that's all just parents/adults/authority figures and none of the main characters. Gertie's a step in the right direction. Give me Tito and Mr. Crocker. Give me Rancid Rabbit. Give me Prof. Membrane. Let's fricking go.
>Vexus would be the main MLAATR rep
I could live with this.
Yes make her fight some random normal human dad, or maybe Bev Bighead, that's the game I'm looking for
Who the frick cares about having all four turtles? Honestly. People act like it's a grave oversight but nobody's convincingly explained why TMNT representing more than four nearly identical green ninjas like in every other game without taking up fricking five or six spots on the roster is a bad thing without going "You just HAVE to!" or "You'll anger... The fans!"
Autism
Meanwhile, Thaddeus, the shovelware kart racer
You mean the shovelware kart racer where next to nothing in comparison goes into implementing characters? They could throw in Slash and Venus while they're at it and it would be easy in comparison to including one or two turtles here.
Why
Your grandkids will ask you why you did it
And as you gurgle your final death rattles, the last words in your life will be "I did it for Thaddeus. I did it for free"
why the frick would i have grandkids
Used to be you'd try to raise the kind of girl you'd want to marry, but noooooo boomers had to ruin that too
You either have all 4 of them or none of them this half assed shit is fricking gay, especially since they could have EASILY had all 4 since the missing two were already made for the first game.
>Talking like this about one of the most iconic superhero teams of all time
Yeah, clearly you're the right guy for the job.
I don't care if they're the most popular characters in fiction, having four snarling green twin turtles in your character roster that is obviously pretty limited in scope with the engine change considering the other fun characters they've cut would be fricking lame. April is visually unique on the roster and IMO a fun inclusion. If this were a smash ultimate-tier production it'd be cool to have all four turtles but if they don't even have room for PTM I really don't care if we're only getting one or two
Then you're not a TMNT fan so you're not one to talk.
What makes you think he’s not a TMNT fan?
>I don't care if they're the most popular characters in fiction
>having four snarling green twin turtles in your character roster that is obviously pretty limited in scope
>I really don't care if we're only getting one or two
Totally a TMNTbro that’s just speaking up for all the fans out there!
I get it but I don't. They're an iconic team but the classic designs are all identical aside from headband color. Their movesets would be different since they all have different weapons but they're just not that visually dynamic.
If we have to have all four then every series represented should have four slots regardless of how similar or useless the picks end up being. Tommy, Chuckie, Phil AND Lil? You can't just break them up! All or nothing!
Either it's stupid roster bloat or it's necessary for a fun time, but I don't think the turtles should get an exception just for being really well-known. Alternatively a bloated roster would get us Danny, Vlad, Ember, and a fourth option. Dani? Valerie?
Might be worth it.
>Tommy, Chuckie, Phil AND Lil? You can't just break them up! All or nothing!
Yeah, which is why they AREN'T in NASB and replaced with Reptar. And people are FINE with that.
The Turtles being so half assed is so frustrating precisely because of how easy they should be to implement. These aren't four different Turtles from four different shows. These are nearly identical characters with movesets ripped straight from the Konami games. It should be effortless to include all of them, most of the work is already done. They just don't because Ludosity is run by chimpanzees.
>Yeah, which is why they AREN'T in NASB and replaced with Reptar. And people are FINE with that.
Actually I'd love a Bowser Jr. style character where all the babies are costume options for the Reptar Wagon as its own fighter. All or nothing.
I mean, they all have different movesets, every character who was present in NASB1 has been significantly retooled along with the game itself- and honestly, Leo and Mikey were kind of boring, strong characters in the first game. They would have to do a lot of work to get them into the new game I'd think regardless of how "easy" it should be.
>Devs are too lazy to do some tweaks and changes to characters that already had full movesets
Kek!
If that was the only thing they cut that'd be one thing, but they cut a ton of shit. Like I liked Oblina and she's just gone entirely, that show isn't repped anymore. I'd rather have her than a turtle back
I think it's because they're all babies.
>Who the frick cares about having all four turtles?
>¡It's adorablé!
>Having Vlad in alongside Danny and Ember is "roster bloat"
Reminder: your fans are your paycheck
Wait, so… a whole bunch of characters from the first game are getting cut, including entire franchise representation like CatDog and Real Monsters? I thought seeing the updated models and engine would be great for generating hype, but for me, the scale of these roster cuts and how they’re handling the inclusion of new characters has me way more upset than any of the potential cool new things in the game.
The first game looked so shitty production-wise and now this 2nd game is looking to have its own set of new issues, all most likely stemming from network meddling and/or the dev team kinda just fricking around with what they were given? Couldn’t this sequel have been way more awesome with proper management and time? Why’s it all gotta be so half-assed and rushed when that didn’t work the first time around at all.
I don’t understand why you people hate Thaddeus so much, he’s such a cool guy and I’m glad he’s the main face of this fan-driven project.
Thaddeus btw
I don't think I've ever seen a movie quote summarize a situation as perfectly as this.
I made a roster for a Nick vs Disney vs CN fighter if anyone's interested.
I also made a roster for a Project X Zone tactical RPG if anyone wants to see that too.
Looks fun.
You will NEVER be them.
Funny part about all this is that if there's a NASB3, it'd probably be the same shit because they'd have to rebuild everything from scratch because Shlomo Dovrat israeliteed every Unity-based developer. So starting over from scratch was for nothing.
>man behind severely israeli behavior of Unity was actually unironically named Shlomo Dovrat
The frick is anything anymore
Not only that but the jump to Unreal would be awful.
Not even Nick Kart 3 could handle the jump to Unreal without lots of glitches.
How can one man sound like such an insufferable homosexual whenever he speaks?
The guy isn’t even in charge of anything and he comes across as some bigshot that makes every leak appear 10x worse.
Here’s hoping gaygeus gets sacked if NASB2 faild.
Ludosity shouldn't have been apart of this to begin with. Their talents are wasted with it and the employee who made himself the spokesperson of the company wouldn't have had the position if it weren't for NASB.
Who the FRICK cares about 4 snarling green turtles that happen to be well liked characters with a lot of nostalgia behind them, you should be GRATEFUL you’re getting ANY of them because CHADDEUS is such a merciful god, really you should be on your KNEES praising him for hyping up Gertie at the expense of some TURTLES, GODDEUS knows better than any of you PEASANTS about what makes a good roster.
Frick you, add Jucika, gaygeus
Grandma Gertie >> Snarling Turtle
You WILL give us all YOUR money, you WILL play as Grandma Gertie, you WILL be happy that we cut most of the first game’s roster from the sequel and you WILL buy our DLCs PLEBEIANS.
>NASBgays: Do you think this is funny?
>GameMill: In a cosmic sort of way yes.
>NASBgays: Well Mr. Funny Man, is this how you get your sick kicks!?
>GameMill: What? It's just a normal ordinary ros-
>*11 cuts*
>GameMill: OH MY GOODNESS!
>GameMill: THADDEUS!!!
frick lucy
she should be given up to foster family and be beaten by cruel molesting foster father regularly and treated as pariah by town and neighbors
If NASB1 just had a base roster of just 12 then i'm sure most of these problems wouldn't have happened.
>SpongeBob
>Patrick
>Timmy
>Jimmy
>Danny
>Zim
>Aang
>Lincoln
>Ronnie Anne
>Jenny
>Ren & Stimpy
>Reptar
>Patrick
>Ronnie Ann
No.
>CatDog
>Arnold
Yes;
A limited roster (especially 12) cannot afford properties having more than one fighter; you'll have to pick your picks thoughtfully and, dare I say, "correctly".
I used Ronnie Anne because Loud House is Nick's current 2nd biggest show and she managed to get her own spin off.
Patrick because SpongeBob is the mascot franchise of Nickelodeon.
But if you'd like you could replace them with Kitty and Rocko.
>Kitty
Hard pass, I like her but a game that's intended to serve as a baseline for sequels that has only 12 slots should not use one of them up for her considering that people only like her and not the show she's from.
OK then El Tigre.
Also i thought that maybe have 8, maybe 10, DLC characters added later on. Five bundles with two characters each.
>Ronnie Anne
Complete waste of a slot in a game that barely has any fighters.
Anne
Swap this taco rat for Kitty and you have the best roster for NASB1 as a pure baseline going forward
The Apex of Arrogance. The Bull of Bullshit. The Controversial c**t. The Duke of Dissatisfaction. The Emperor of Embarrassment. The Fiercest of homosexuals. The Gibbering Gay. The Horrid of Hedonists. The Irrational Imbecile. The Jowly Joke. The King of Knavishness. The Largest of Losers. The Master of Malding. The Narcissist of Nitwits. The Oppressive of Odors. The Pitiful and Pugnacious. The Quixotic Quisling. The Rabid moron. The Scandalous Sadist. The Tyrant of Trannies. The Utopian of Uglies. The Vulgar and Vain. The Worthless prostitute. The Xeric of Xerocheilia. The Yucky Yeti. The Zany and Zoophiliac.
THE COMPETITIVELY CORRUPT
THE VILE VIOLATOR
THE ALPHA ARSEHOLE
HE DOES IT FOR HIS BOYFRIEND.
THE TERRIBLE troony
POOREUS the PENISMONGLER
HORRIBLEUS the HAREBRAINED
bawdTEUS the SCHIZO
WIMPEUS the WITLESS
DICKSUCKEUS, the DERISIVE
MADDEUS the MALDING
troonyEUS the TRAITOR
ENTER gayGEUS
There is no evidence of any chatacyers being cut
Still can't believe that one of the bosses is fricking King Jellyfish, they have several seasons and movies of Spongebob to pick from and they go with fricking King Jellyfish.
ManRay, Dirty Bubble, Dennis.
I guess they just didn't want to make a new stage when they already have Jellyfish Fields.
All of that plus fricking King Neptune the guy's been a major antagonist to Spongebob in two of his most prominent appearances, they could've used ANYONE yet they chose a minor antagonist that only appeared once.
Now that i think about it, the Cyclops would've also been kino.
Have a Shell City stage where the Cyclops just comes out to frick shit up.
The Cyclops is also invincible to any kind of damage on most of his body, with his visor being his one weak spot.
Boss battle ends with the fire alarm going off and all the fish kick his ass.
If they referenced the gamecube/ps2 game's shell city level in the design it would be fricking based
We could've gotten this potential kino but instead we're stuck with a Jellyfish that only appeared ONCE, if I wanted to fight his ass I'd go play Battle for Bikini Bottom.
>the nickelodeongays' game is falling apart
teeheehee
b***h when's the last time you even appeared in Gumball?
You got no legs to stand on WBgay, no legs at all
How's Multiversus coming along, gaytoon cückwork-bint?
>gaytoon Shitwork sissies invading the sacred CHADolodeon halls
If anyone has the right to laugh it's a me.
So anyone wanna talk about cartoon/movie ideas you'd wanna pitch to Nickelodeon/Paramount?
A character based on me has to save his girlfriend from being killed by a legion of sexy villainesses every episode, and he has no superpowers or money. The villain chicks all want him so they're jealous
Frick no
People are too annoyed at the absolute disaster NASB2 is shaping up to be to want to do that.
Isn't Nickelodeon a D-tier network only sustained by nostalgia for its glory days in the 90s and the Sponge? I could have sworn they're known for butt raping creators like the Making Fiends chick, scrubbing every show that doesn't become more popular than Jesus within two episodes, or throwing Savino under the bus the moment some WB rag pushes lies about him. And they disregard and ignore their fandoms in lieu of just caring about 8 year old kids who drive their shows further into the ground by wanting inane shit added. And then they pull wickedly stupid shit like this one licensed game they auctioned off to the publisher of Big Rigs Over the Road Racing who got some shovelware developer, and they fricked up the sequel to their first shovelware game pretty badly.
Yeah, I have a few. One is called Butt. It's about a butt that butts.
>One is called Butt. It's about a butt that butts.
Brilliance! You can expect a 2 season show on Nickelodeon within a year! It'll be huge! Huge! A franchise! Balloons on Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade!
>will only air 5 episodes on main channel, rest of the season put on Nicktoons, second season greenlit but canceled immediately so you only have chance to make 5 new episodes, will be aired out of order across the span of 20 years
There are too many Nicktoons whose fates are accurately described by this post.
>>will only air 5 episodes on main channel, rest of the season put on Nicktoons, second season greenlit but canceled immediately so you only have chance to make 5 new episodes, will be aired out of order across the span of 20 years
Unless the show magically reaches Game of Thrones level popularity. Then Nickelodeon will run it for 12 hours alongside their Spongebob shit, then after about a year, some women will accuse you of sexually harassing them because you wore your pants a funny way, and the show will take over all control and change the show into pure slop that lasts 10 seasons until AI takes over running it indefinitely and you're hanging by a noose
>All DLC is from shows already in the game
>It's been described as mediocre
>Half the characters are considered bad
>No one has guessed right
>It's been said that Stevia will never be guessed
>Stevia can be interpreted as a female version of a male name
>Thaddeus is a major trans supporter
Oh frick i just realized something.
One of the DLC characters is going to be Ralph Bighead to support the trans community isn't it?
This is far too plausible, it's frightening.
Raphael was probably the only good and decent troony character in media, I don't mind
Also you can beat her up so
Even putting aside the troony shit that's still a slot wasted on a divisive character when it could be used for anyone else, it's a terrible idea.
But what if you couldn't? Imagine if you were penalized for it every time, like if you scored a victory against Ralph, the victory message is some PSA about trans violence/erasure shaming you
This could not be any more disastrous a choice. What the frick would the moveset even be, is he going to dialate on us?
And my heart just sank
Where the frick is the second gameplay trailer?
Pretty much anyone from the franchises this game has can get in, and since it's been said that some people may like it and some hate it, i don't have that many hopes
>dib appears nowhere in the leaked renders
Dib, along with Vexus, are nowhere to be found in the game.
>The DLC is going to be bad
What baffles me is that the DLC is going to be paid, so, obviously, you want to sell something worth buying. Why sell something only a miniscule of people will buy?
I fear all of these odd choices may seem "funny" at first but if nobody is laughing (i.e. buying) then it is going to harm Ludosity in the long run.
>I fear all of these odd choices may seem "funny" at first but if nobody is laughing (i.e. buying) then it is going to harm Ludosity in the long run.
Making it worse is that we all know that Thaddeus will be really defensive about it on Twitter.
gaygeus 's take should be taken as seriously as anyone else's on Shitter.
Of course but it'd be bad PR regardless if he has a Twitter meltdown.
>Schizo rambling
I don't get it. What does it take for a person to enjoy this sort of thing? The callousness and cruelty in some of the show's fanart is a bit offputting.
the roster isn't bad enough on its own to truly hate it, but it does look a lot worse compared to the first because little things like adding C grade waifus over main characters (azula over zuko, ember over vlad), cutting characters with weird bodies (oblina, catdog) and having incomplete set of turtles really do add up.
and like, really, they cut sandy. sandy. come the frick on.
If they wanted to have a DP female they should have gone with Maddie.
She even has more history with Vlad than Ember so whatever interactions they'd have would be cool.
I'm a fricking Lincoln main with Powdered Toast Man as my sub so frick me I guess lmao. Personal grudges aside though I really am seriously blown the frick away that this is the avenue they chose. I said it before in the last thread, they're competing against Smash Bros who've had so much time to accumulate characters that they're already ont he backfoot from the start. Their only hope was to keep pouring more and more characters in with each sequel until they had something substantial enough and with enough hype from all then fandoms that you have something. When I heard Lincoln was cut I simply didn't believe because it sounded too stupid to believe, I didn't think they'd cutting anyone much less a character like that, now's now the time to be cutting anybody when the series is a fledgeling, now's the time to be ADDING characters.
Then come to find out like half the roster was wiped. Pretty disorientating.
It also sets a bad precedence for the next game: If characters including main characters and reps of entire franchises got axed, what'll happen with the cast of this game?
Especially when they'll have to rebuild it on a different engine due to the Unity shitshow?
>If characters including main characters and reps of entire franchises got axed, what'll happen with the cast of this game?
well i mean they're running out of people to even feasibly replace. if they cut helga from the first game, and cut gerald from the second, they're really quickly running out of children from hey arnold to use unless they use arnold himself.
if they cut plankton, who is the replacement, larry lobster? they can't cut jimmy because they already used hugh. they can cut so many fighters from nick 1 because there were a bunch they didn't add, but the potential sequel to nick 2 doesn't have new characters to add to replace cuts. theyd have to cut fewer people or add old characters because like it or not there aren't actually THAT many characters that work in a game like this and nick 1 and 2 used most of them.
Or the devs could just swallow their 90s pride and start adding new shows from the 2000s and 2010s.
Fricking this holy shit who the frick asked for two more hey arnold reps who arent arnold himself
>start adding new shows from the 2000s and 2010s
like what kappa mikey? nickelodeon doesn't have cartoons from the 2000s and 2010s. danny phantom and loud house are already here.
Spoken like a true 90sgay.
hey if you want to suggest something other than kappa mikey or mr meaty be my guest. avatar, zim, and danny phantom are from 00's and already in the game.
Chalk Zone, Catscratch, The X's, Tak and the power of Juju, As Told by Ginger, Mighty B, Barnyard, Fanboy and ChumChum.
>But Fanboy and ChumChum bad!
Not like Catdog is the pinnacle of quality itself.
>But they're obscure!
As if Angry Beavers and Real Monsters aren't some of the more forgettable Nicktoons.
This, there's plenty of cartoons that can still be represented.
i'm not going to talk shit on inclusions of tak and chalk zone. i think those are really good, obvious inclusions, but those are only two characters at the end of the day.
i dont think that as told by ginger, mighty b deserve slots. they are just going to add to the very high number of "normal person fighting with normal objects" that gerald/helga from hey arnold and lincoln loud already occupy. its okay with some shows just not having any viable fighters if their premise is mundane. they really had to stretch to add a single character from wild thornberries unless you want to add eliza riding a giraffe or some shit.
>its okay with some shows just not having any viable fighters if their premise is mundane.
Should probably stress that this conservatism is only a thing because the devs are rebuilding each game from scratch with limited rosters (they'll likely have to do that with NASB3, if it ever exists, because of Unity).
To any futuregays reading this in the archives (I know I will be because I browse through these shit threads on occasion), we wouldn't be talking about "wasted slots on mundane characters" if they were actually going to Smash Bros route by just straight up adding as many characters as they desire for the most Nickelodeon representation they can get. We just don't live in that timeline where they brought (or COULD have brought) their A game the first time around.
>Should probably stress that this conservatism is only a thing because the devs are rebuilding each game from scratch with limited rosters (they'll likely have to do that with NASB3, if it ever exists, because of Unity).
no, like, roster size aside, there are too many characters who are little kids/teenagers that do not have fantastical fighting styles. i don't mean mundane as an insult, i mean it as a description of their settings, which means that they have to fight with bats, baseballs, bicycles, firecrackers, kid stuff unless you straight up make them a gag character that fights with poses like hugh nuetron.
any character that you add from loud house, hey arnold, as told by ginger, rugrats, they are too constrained by being believably "realistic" characters. it hurts variety a lot. characters like el tigre or tak or rudy from chalkzone are a ton better than characters you basically have to turn into potential fighters.
I think Mighty B is surreal enough.
>danny phantom
Is a good choice but I think 3 is a bit much and I don't get ember as a pick
>loud house
Barely.
Put Robot and Monster in, make them like banjo and kazooie in smash.
>but I think 3 is a bit much
Dude, Danny Phantom was big when it was airing.
So big that when it got cancelled hundreds of fans went to protest right outside of Nickelodeon Studios.
I get that but I'd rather they spent that time getting other series in, Danny and Vlad were already good enough for the base roster and I don't want a game that's half-hartman
Half Hartman? DP is the only Hartman show in the game.
Yeah but you have people wanting
>kitty katswell
>timmy turner
>other fop reps like jorgen or crimson chin
It isn't a lot really but I'd rather just have Timmy and Danny at first if the most they can muster by the second game is a few new characters and half the roster gone.
Like no other creator would have as many chars in the game if all these series got in, not even Steven Hillenburg.
Well to be fair this is more of a side effect of Butch pretty much being the only Nick creator to get more than one cartoon.
>Robot and Monster
kek, your suggests are invalid. Nobody cares for that slop.
I bet you want that one girl with the big ass purely because she has a big ass
Miko? I don't care about her but I definitely don't care for Nickelodeon's slop. Robot and Monster failed in every way that matters it doesn't deserve attention over other Nicktoons.
Don't blame the show for what's obviously Nickelodeon's fault.
Robot and Monster wasn't appealing. Lots of shows got screwed over just like it and they have bigger long lasting fanbases.
There's you problem. You're thinking that any game in the genre has to have this huge competition with Smash Bros. NASB will be a success in its own right and co-exist with Smash especially when Smash has long been out and made its money already.
>NASB will be a success in its own right
Smash Bros and Nick Brawl are 100 percent targeting the same player base, and its the biggest overmatch in the history of overmatches. Now that doesn't mean the series couldn't still scratch out a profitable and active corner for itself from people who love Nickelodeon and games like Smash, but cutting half the fricking roster from the first game is not the way to do it. I really don't know how else to express it. This is the wrong move to make and it's as simple as that. This conceit that 'don't worry, our gameplay is going to be SO GOOD that it will just be able to overcome that' is absurd. It's the 'you don't need Magneto in MVCI because a character will have his function' thing all over again. The characters are more than half the reason people buy these games. This is just fricking crazy dude.
No they aren't. It's a completely different set of characters, gameplay style, and appeal. The cuts are a travesty but a lot of the new and current additions still have a lot of people with many wanting to get the game for those characters, El Tigre being a very easy example. Spongebob has inherit appeal that will get loads of people by default. MVCI doesn't work because MVCI is an ugly game with gameplay that wasn't even that good. it had nothing going for it.
And NASB2 has more going against it than it has thing going for it.
Negativity has blinded you if you seriously believe that garbage. The only big issue is the roster, everything is serviceable to great. The only thing that makes NASB 2 have more going against it is if the online doesn't work.
Yeah and that roster is a really big fricking issue, 11 cut characters isn't something that can be shrugged off.
It's a big issue, I already admitted the cuts are a travesty. But there's still more going for it than against it. With even the roster still having characters with a lot of appeal.
This is something I feel should be stressed. This is a game marketed entirely around essentially being a celebration of and playground for Nickelodeon's most notable IPs. It's not just about the competitive gameplay, it really is about the representation for a lot of people. The good gameplay will keep them coming back, but the roster was supposed to draw them in. So the best the game has to hope for is that it has a rock solid foundation to build off of that keeps a loyal base that'll finance and stick around for a third game.
And the representation already drove in a lot of people. El Tigre and Jenny are already spicy ways to repping Nickelodeon history and brought a lot of potential buyers as a result. Even some who didn't get the first game.
false and dishonest
>11 cut characters isn't something that can be shrugged off.
why not? The roster for the second game is clearly better even after cuts. it's not worth throwing out jimmy or plankton to go back to the first game's roster.
Who said they needed to throw out all those characters in the first place?
the poor sales/reception of the first game. they already had a chance to prove that the first game's roster would lead to big sales and it didn't work.
>should have been
but they weren't. i don't think that going on about what "should have been" in the first game is a fools errand, because what the game "should" have is a roster of like 40+ characters, which is not realistic.
40+ characters? What are you talking about? The game should have had less characters. It was too bloated.
Oh wow, two characters who should have been in the last game.
Seriously, it shouldn't have taken this long to get them.
Frick that, I disagree with that and I'm not even just being biased about it just because my main got taken out. Let's pretend Lincoln Loud is still in: PTM still fricking MOOOOGS any of the new additions and you know it. Toph alone also is better than any new addition besides Azula. Catdog and the Beavers are a push. Helga is better than Gerald. Gerdie super sucks but so did Hugh so whatever, let's call that a push. Jimmy is fricking lame I don't care what anybody says, the muh mechanical gadgets fighting style means he's just bootleg Zim at the end of the day who's already in. But even if you love Jimmy, taking Shredder out still robs you of a crucial, credible and badass villain character the game is already low on. Yeah, Plankton is better than Sandy and Ember is cool though I would have preferred Luna, but are they better than fricking Ninja Turtles? We both know the answer, dude.
Who the frick cares about having all four ninja turtles in the game?
Have you not been reading the thread?
I don't need all four I'm with you on the fact their visual design games them too redundant, but shit dude, I'd have at least two.
the first game also had two turtles. swapping helga for gerald is dumb and i do like toastman/catdog/oblina for being werid. but i think adding tigre, rocko, beavers, squidward offset that.
the problems with both rosters are too similar for me to say one game's is better than the other. the sequel has more so it's better by default.
>Roster is mediocre at best
>Campaign is barebones
>Stages are lame
>Bullshit DLC practices
Everything positive it has going for it do not make up for all of that.
>Stages are lame
Subjective and outright false since the stages are much more fleshed out this game. They look great. The developers even made it so the default of these stages have a bigger variety of design and casual appeal. Jelly Fish Fields has a default layout where it's bigger and non competitive.
>Campaign is barebones
Not only does that remain to be seen but NASB 2 has new modes not just campaign, there's a variety of actual content this time, something the first game lacked.
The only real bad thing is the DLC. Also, it absolutely could make up for it. It addressed a lot of criticisms.
>Items
>Supers
>Functional Online
>Crossplay
>Presentable animations
>Smooth gameplay
>Unique and fleshed out movesets
>Subjective and outright false since the stages are much more fleshed out this game. They look great. The developers even made it so the default of these stages have a bigger variety of design and casual appeal. Jelly Fish Fields has a default layout where it's bigger and non competitive.
And yet they only reveal the more competitive stages why?
>Not only does that remain to be seen but NASB 2 has new modes not just campaign, there's a variety of actual content this time, something the first game lacked.
Leakers already confirmed the campaign to be barebones, the same leakers that confirmed a lot of other stuff that turned out to be true.
And if those single players modes were something to be excited about then we'd have seen footage of them by now.
>That list
All of that means jack shit, especially when most of it only appeals to FGCgays.
And the supers are all just lame ass cutscenes.
>And yet they only reveal the more competitive stages why?
just in the past couple spotlights they've shown ren and stimpy's huge dumbass breakfast stage and a wild thornberrys level that takes you on a jungle cruise. you're not being rational here.
From what i've seen there has still been more competitive stages.
>They only reveal
Then you haven't been paying attention. Jellyfish Fields and Rooftop were the most competitive stages from last game and we've seen layouts that are non-competitive for those stages. Same thing for Harmonic Convergence. They just did what Ultimate has where a lot of these stages have competitive layouts you can choose that co-exist alongside the casual layouts.
>We'd have seen footage
This narrative needs to die. Fricking moron, the game's still months away from release. The marketing campaign is nowhere near done. Smash didn't have a single player trailer until near launch. NASB 2 is most likely saving further elaboration and showcase of the modes for another trailer. They already confirmed that another trailer for singleplayer is coming.
>All of that means jack shit
Casual players want good online too, good online has been a standard in modern gaming for a while now. Items, everyone playing the same with lame movesets, the game just looking ugly, and crossplay were humongous criticisms from the casuals. You did not pay attention to the reception at all.
>Jellyfish Fields and Rooftop were the most competitive stages from last game and we've seen layouts that are non-competitive for those stages
I have seen Rooftop Rumble but can you tell me what video the new Jellyfish Fields is in?
>Same thing for Harmonic Convergence
Every Harmonic Convergence stage form has been shown of on Twitter and they're all competitive with only one exception that's still pretty competitive.
>This narrative needs to die. Fricking moron, the game's still months away from release. The marketing campaign is nowhere near done. Smash didn't have a single player trailer until near launch. NASB 2 is most likely saving further elaboration and showcase of the modes for another trailer. They already confirmed that another trailer for singleplayer is coming
Months away? You make it sound like we won't get the game until next year.
The game is coming out in November, and even then it was supposed to come out in just one month before delay and i doubt the delay impacted their marketing strategy.
>Casual players want good online too, good online has been a standard in modern gaming for a while now. Items, everyone playing the same with lame movesets, the game just looking ugly, and crossplay were humongous criticisms from the casuals. You did not pay attention to the reception at all.
Yeah i know all the complaints of the first game yet fixing them is not enough when there's new problems that are pissing people off more than the problems NASB1 had.
You can see it in multiple close up shots throughout the showcases. There's a long layout that was never seen before with Jellyfish Fields' competitive layouts.
>With only one exception
That stage is non competitive, its a different layout than the usual competitive stages.
>And I doubt the delay impacted their marketing strategy
Which isn't finished. You keep acting like we "should've seen it" by now when the marketing campaign is still saving things up their sleeves including a trailer.
>Fixing them is not enough
Yes the frick it was if many people that didn't even buy the game are interested in the sequel. The people being pissed off are a vocal minority with some of those people mad about the roster planning to buy it anyway. There's an entire thread with multiple people said yes when a twitter user asked if anyone really wanted to buy a game that looked like this.
>Yes the frick it was if many people that didn't even buy the game are interested in the sequel
And as we can see all those people are a very small amount and that interest is dying due to all of the leaked information.
>The people being pissed off are a vocal minority with some of those people mad about the roster planning to buy it anyway.
The people who don't have standards aren't the majority either.
>There's an entire thread with multiple people said yes when a twitter user asked if anyone really wanted to buy a game that looked like this.
And how many people voted yes? A few hundred? A few dozen? I doubt it even got a thousand votes.
>Interest is dying
Nothing proves this, many of the criticical people are getting the game anyway.
>wHO DON'T HAVE STANDARDS
Cope and project all you want. El Tigre had a massive reception and attention more than any of this leaked shit has. Most leaks are shown off to a very vocal and a tiny audience saw it. Most people are gonna get the game anyway because of appealing characters like Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron, and El Tigre.
>I doubt it even got a thousand votes
And I doubt the people raging even make over 500 hundred.
*Most leaks are shown off to a very vocal audience. Only a tiny amount have been following leaks closely as proven by the thousands of people reacting with delighted surprise to El Tigre.
I'm just saying, if it was me, I would have just bit the bullet and done what I could with the old engine. I regard the original Nick Brawl like the original Marvel VS Capcom: janky as frick but cool and with a fun roster. The devs could have gone the MVC2 route, where it's beloved because despite having basically the same engine it's more of what everybody liked about it, a shitload more characters that are beloved and fun and everybody loves it to death despite the jank. Instead they seemt o have prioritized gameplay and presentation at the expense of everything else, and that gets you MVCI. I think it almost doesn't matter even if the gameplay does turn out to be better, I would have just made a true NASB2 if it was me. But hey, what the frick do I know, I might be wrong as Hell and it'll be a major success. It's entirely possible. But it's not giving me MVC2 vibes and I think that's what everyone wanted and they were ready to forgive jank in the name of getting that feeling. I mean I remember how hard people were partying with every new character reveal in the original even knowing it was kusoge, now everyone's just sad and pissed. Well, I am at least.
You have a broken and nonfunctional game that turns people away the exact same way if you stuck with the old engine. The old engine was so broken that it's confirmed that the engine prevented them from truly expanded their scope. And it shows as everytime they tried to patch this dogshit game internal systems always broke and they had something else to fix. You say it could be "beloved" by 99% of its audience abandoning it and not even coming back for its appealing DLC shows that something was broken there with the old system that needed an overhaul.
>You say it could be "beloved" by 99% of its audience abandoning it and not even coming back for its appealing DLC shows
The DLC sucked dick, dude. You must be fricking kidding me with this shit. Out of all of the DLC the only people people liked was Jenny. Garfield, get the frick out of here.
the DLC was decided by popular vote.
Bullshit, who the frick voted for Garfield.
viacom. but hugh/jenny/rocko were all just pulled from the fan polls
Garfield was a base character given for free as he was unfinished. Jenny, Hugh, and Rocko were widely requested.
Shut the frick up, dumbass. The DLC pass was met with constant praise. People loved Jenny, Rocko, and even Hugh. And the fact that you're dismissing the wide amount of praise Shredder had for a badass character like him getting to be playable shows just how little you followed audience reception. Jenny alone should've brought back more people but she didn't. Because the game inherently lacked long term appeal.
Kick Thaddeus out and let me manage I'll actually put characters people want in
Bump limit reached. New thread when the next showcase goes up (or leakers unveil even greater schizophrenic decision making) I presume?
I'll laugh if Lucy's the next showcase and she winds up getting one of the biggest responses for no apparent reason, all but cûcking Nick's beloved Gertie out of any discussion.
Everything went to shit when the leaks appeared ngl
hope some things get better it can't get worse than this
Things can only become worse before they can get better.
>Everything went to shit when the leaks appeared ngl
Think of it this way
It was either experiencing pain early by discovering all these leaks and slowly withering as we realized how much of a clusterfrick this is, or experiencing pain on release day as we slowly realize how we had just been robbed in the sequel all at once
Just wait until all the people who avoided the leaks start playing the game.
>It can't get worse than this
Be careful with what you say, you might just jinx us.
When is the next showcase?
I think they should add many of the cut characters back in through updates. The DLCs should come with stages but the re added characters shouldn't.
be grateful any turtles or hey arnold characters are included at all
I will play your game, but you had better bring back Lincoln and add more of my sisters via DLC or the sequel.
Would Lucy main herself or someone else?
>add more loud sisters
Uhmm how do we tell her that all of her sisters will probably be NPCs or be in the background since they've no moveset potential or the same popularity as her? they fricking cut the mc lol
rigged poll