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This looked like it was specifically made for 15-22 year old gay and trans people audience. Not interested but good for them I guess.
I have only seen the trailer and the gay pajeet knight is literally me
>15-22 year old gay
I feel attacked
Reject homosexuality, accept heterosexuality.
homosexuality and heterosexuality are literally the same thing
>not interested
Should of started and ended with this.
why?
did his sentiments offend you?
>d-don't hurt my feefees!
Go back.
it's out
Nate is kind of a walking disaster of mental issues and insecurities
We got it, anon. Here's your (you). You can leave now.
Calm down shera gay.
Aw frick, I'm enjoying it.
Goddammit.
Why does this keep happening?
Same. Well. In the end I don't care much about who has made something as long as the product is enjoyable. Actually wish there was more fantasy like this.
mega?
>less than five minutes in
>gays holding hands
New record for Netflix, I'd say. Nimona a cute though.
Cinemaphile is always going "where's the animated gay MEN?!? It's always lesbians!"
Don't pretend that we've tripping over gay MALE leads in animated movies.
youre right and you should say it.
>New record for Netflix, I'd say. Nimona a cute though.
Blackheart also a cute.
>new record
we should have a leaderboard for how fast shows show gay shit
the lesbian subcategory would be ClamSlam%
>2013 Tumblr tryhard zomg so cute and edgy OC x3c
Hard pass
I went into this not expecting much but I honestly think this is the best animated movie of 2023 so far. It's the only thing that's kept me entertained the entire time and didn't bore me like other films. They really took the action to the top notch and made the film unpredictable, leaving me wondering what would happen next. I'm actually bummed out I can't see this movie in theaters because it totally deserves to be seen on a big screen. Also Nimona 100% best character in the whole film
More or less agreed, although Miyazaki should get best animated. Because... Miyazaki.
But damn, this made Cartoon Saloon's 2023 outing look bad. Fricking shock.
How did Mario bore you?
nta, mario is a fun movie, but it's also incredibly generic. If you took out the "mario bros" name from it, it wouldn't even be remarkable.
That's fair. Yeah the plot was pretty straightforward but I couldn't say I was ever really bored by it. Nimona looks fun though.
Mario was okay but it was very much written for kids and focused most on comedy. Not particularly bad but just not the kind of movie I'm interested in. I probably would've enjoyed it more if I were younger.
damn brat
I'm glad it was dumped on Netflix, cuz it'll get what it deserves: nothing but a small gay fan base and no profit
It's probably unironically better for not being a multi-gorillion dollar blockbuster. Those movies always boil down to the lowest common denominator, be super safe to be toddler-approved and avoid any sort of risk while being unable to please any sort of demographic or group.
>Very unnuanced “traditional stories bad” narrative
>The most interesting aspect to the story with the gay knights rivalry is watered down and replaced with a stupid jock
>The “twist villain” is obvious and doesn’t even reveal why she killed the queen in the first place
>The film clumsily tries to make systemic racism a theme by saying it’s not just the villainess but the entire system that’s at fault, but turns out it really is just the villainess
>Nimona is perfectly fine with being the monster everyone expects her to be with her willingness to kill innocent civilians but the film expects you to forget this and get offended over her being seen as a monster
>Blackheart and Nimona act like absolute morons by having proof of the villain being caught in the act but not even make a copy of it or send it as a text to Ambrosius
>The Squire also just does nothing with this information for no reason
>Asian Ambrosius doesn’t think to ask Blackheart if Nimona did or did not transform into the villain for the video, which would dispel any notion that she was innocent
>Blackheart also forgets despite being IN THE ROOM AS IT HAPPENED
>The kingdom literally has no way of telling if Nimona is a monster, but somehow she is incapable of living with other humans unless they know she’s a goddamn shapeshifter according to her
Yeah it was shit. Don’t know if the comic is better or worse, but I remember that being shit too. Anyone else pick up on anything?
You guys have really low standards.
>You guys have really low standards.
They're shills, so you can't expect much from them
>>The “twist villain” is obvious and doesn’t even reveal why she killed the queen in the first place
The media comprehension demon always lurks in the shadows. Just from this, I know anything you have to say is worthless.
Thinking back they did give an explanation for why. The queen questioned the lore behind the dragon. My bad.
>>The kingdom literally has no way of telling if Nimona is a monster, but somehow she is incapable of living with other humans unless they know she’s a goddamn shapeshifter according to her
I don't think they explained that in the comic either, unless I blanked out on it
Did you miss the part where she said if she doesn't shapeshift she will be dead inside?
Yes, actually, you probably did. Welcome to the queer experience.
>if you do [action] it will give you no benifits but will [list many negative cons]
>but I wanna do it for muh feewins
Sorry, for a brief moment I lived in a fantasy reality where people are smart enough to choose the actions they take in life based on logical deduction, but you reminded me that's bullshit because the entire alphabet soup crowd live as a testament to shit choices.
Thank you for bringing me back to reality and showing me the truth.
must be sad being someone who doesn't care about himself and is always licking other people's shoes to fit in
>not murdering someone because they were mean is bootlicking
>not dipping my hands in antifreeze to have them amputated so I can live out my furry puppy fetish is bootlicking
>not committing tax fraud is bootlicking
>not drinking alcohol is bootlicking
>not smoking nicotine or other addictive drugs is bootlicking
You should really get into fricking bears so you can get mauled to each by one
>strawmaning this hard
Even sadder. You should perhaps look into yourself, because I can't even begin to imagine the amount of stuff you must be repressing to appear 'normal' to your family and "friends"
>I AM SEVERELY DEPRESSED THAT I AM NOT ACCEPTED IN SOCIETY
>Okay, then stop shapeshifting in front of people and start a new life until everyone is ready to accept you
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
This shit is moronic anon.
I seriously wonder if you people are really this tone deaf or if you're just pretending to be annoying.
Do you seriously need it spelled out for you?
We get it, you've identified yourself with Nimona to such an extreme degree you feel called out for some lack of impulse control whenever someone criticizes her.
>Circumventing the point to attack me
Can't come up with something worth saying?
What is your point actually? That because there is a stated reason for her transformation, regardless of how shitty a reason it is, it's therefore a valid explanation?
>Welcome to the queer experience.
It's clear you take personal offense to criticism of this, which places your objectivity into doubt.
>shitty reason
If, to be accepted into society, you have to fundamentally change who you are, then you're not being accepted. Not only that: It also makes you miserable. What's the point of living as someone who isn't you?
Nimona would rather be herself and rejected than be accepted for hiding who she is. It is an intrinsically queer thing. Not something someone who was born with a silver spoon in their mouth would understand.
>if I can't act like a monster in public I am not being true to myself
Should have chose a better allegory.
Lol, imagine writing this and pretending you're somehow smart. Nimona was perfectly harmless when she started getting attacked for being who she is, so your "wow then don't pick a monster allegory" argument is either 1) completely missing the point or 2) disingenuous and purposefully misrepresenting the situation.
I mean, I figure it's the 2nd, I've been in this shit site long enough, but I like to give the benefit of the doubt.
You said her being a monster is a part of who she is and society is wrong for rejecting her for that. What's REALLY funny is that your STD riddled brain failed to realize your own argument applies to rapists and serial killers. So no, accepting someone's bad behavior is not a societal obligation and is rightfully shunned.
>I've been in this shit site long enough
Then maybe it's time for you to back up and leave.
She didn't do anything harmful until people attacked her first. She would've been fine turning into a cat or a gorilla and hurting zero people if the village just said, "That's cool". Rapists and killers do harmful things unprovoked.
>killers do harmful things unprovoked
Someone wasn't paying attention to almost all violent crime
Tell me what evil things she did prior to being labelled as a monster 1,000 years ago.
>I-It's provoked by someone else, th-th-therefore it's justified! Shut up!
>All rapists and murder come out of nowhere!
What kind of sheltered, neglected existence makes someone think like this?
Not just murderers, anon said specifically serial killers. And we've had enough of them that yes, even those with normal lives turn into sick killers for no reason other than their brain is wired wrong.
Also, answer the fricking question.
moron.
>for no reason other than their brain is wired wrong.
No that's a mental disorder, stop being such a bigot to the handicapped
>Nimona was perfectly harmless when she started getting attacked for being who she is
A lot of psychos were like that as kids, but that doesn't make their actions right. Some of them even try to justify it with "that's just who they are." Nimona is like a ticking time bomb. By the way, notice how none of the posts you replied to resorted to calling you an idiot.
>none of the posts you replied to resorted to calling you an idiot.
Well that's on them, clown.
>not falling back to insults is "on them"
While I agree with you that that trannies are monsters and a plague on society, the problem is that Nimona is a baby eating monster and that inherently prevents people from "accepting" her. If she's unable to stop hurt people then she has no place in society.
She's perfectly capable of not eating babies. What causes her discomfort is having to suppress her shapeshifting ability for too long.
People who kept going "monster! kill the beast!" because she kept turning into a squirrel turned her into an antisocial shithead.
>having to conceal who you are in order to be safe is inheretly queer
no? it's a part of the human condition. people hurt people
LOL
You were never slapped as a child, eh? Unsure if your parents or your lack of self awareness should be blamed for the self entitled trash you've become as an adult.
>Welcome to the queer experience.
Awful impulse control?
Explains a lot.
>You guys have really low standards.
Yeah but the thing is that the other animated movies couldn't even meet those low standards. I only enjoyed one other animated movie in 2023 so far. Never claimed my standards were high, I just want something fun and pixar, dreamwerks and even anime are incapable of providing that for me right now. Not even sure why Suzume didn't work for me. I consider it an objectively fine movie, maybe even a good one, but besides the comedy and side characters I couldn't enjoy it as much as I hoped. And I am not even talking about the other anime shit that was released in 23.
>I only enjoyed one other animated movie in 2023
That doesn't happen to be spiderverse, does it?
Their standards are literally,
>Gay people in the film
>I'm not a man that is gay, but a gay man.
>Holy shit I'm so represented by the moronic character who is also gay!
>This is the best movie ever!
So its a shitty movie that people only like because of muh gays? Unsurprising lol
Why don't you read the actual posts of those that like it or watch the movie instead of talking to the two guys that say what you want to hear?
All characters has theirs pupils allways 90% open, which happens if the person is dead. It´s a basic art anatomy mistake, it put me off a little bit. The low budge is evident. At first I thought the little pink hair goblin was OP and insufferable, but at the end I wanted to hug it. The movie was a 7/10.
WOOOO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET BUT I AM SUPER EXCITED FRICK NAYSAYERS
I WANT TO CUM INSIDE NIMONA
i remember reading this piece of shit comic when it came out
the dynamic of blackheart and goldenloin was pretty cute, it was like half that ine miike snow video and half venture brothers arching deal. nimona was a colossal sack of shit and didn't fit into the story in the slightest. like all she does is throw fricking tantrums and demonstrate how unreasonably powerful her shspeshifting bullshit is she barely even contributes as a henchman. you could drop the fricking title character of that comic and nothing would change beyond it being shorter and more satisfying.
how tf did this get adapted and not dead winter or kiwi blitz or whatever the frick else. clandestinauts. skullkickers. anything.
I haven't read the comics so I don't know how different this is from that, but in the film the story largely focuses around her. Her past is what caused the whole plot to happen. And while she is pretty overpowered, they actually do show her briefly getting stopped by the knights with some sort of electrical trap
I was hoping they’d tone down Nimona in the movie but from the clips I’ve seen it doesn’t seem like it.
The comic shows the carnage she does and then expects me to feel bad for her, like frick outta here with that, I was with Ambrosius in that she should’ve been killed.
It doesn't seem like she ever killed anybody in the movie. You should watch the movie instead of hating it because of a clip. They toned a bunch of shit down from the original, which I personally appreciate for the very reason the other anon just brought up. Once someone is too much of an ass they cannot be redeemed anymore and sob stories stop working. I didn't get that impression in the movie though. I generally think that it's much better than the book, but I guess there are others that prefer it darker maybe.
Lmao I actually watched it. Thank fricking God they actually changed the story up. It’s not perfect but it’s a vast improvement on pretty much everything.
Yeah I feel the same. It seems like most anons prefer the book but I think the movie was a legit improvement and not just because of the designs.
I understand that genocidal maniac Nimona would be hard to cheer for but I think they went too far in the other direction trying to force her to be oh so cool/smug/smarmy, and like another anon has said she's now the moral authority who will just repeatedly monologue the movie's message as if the audience would be too moronic to get it. And Ballister suffers for it because he's made to look dumber in comparison.
Did we watch the same movie? Her "the establishment is all wrong" spiel only happened in one scene. She's not even the moral authority most of the time, she does petty crimes and gets called out for it in one scene.
Yeah it didn't come off like this to me either.
She is introduced as bold and bratty and you assume she's just that until you later realise that she's just someone that has given up on trying to be respected so she does says what she thinks and does what she wants while sill being plagued by self-doubts that she usually hides. The anti establishment was only really a thing in one scene and MC isn't an idiot for not believing her right away, the world he was born in was all he ever knew and it doesn't seem to be a bad place. This is why he assumed it was only one person being evil here and trying to her out without hurting the state itself, which isn't a stupid thing at all. It's just that Nimona lived through enough shit to recognize liars and know that you won't be able to get rid of the president without hurting the senate basically.
Hell if anything Bal is the voice of reason here that tries to rein Nimona in.
She expresses a desire to kill people several times and the only reason she joined Bal in the first place was because he “killed” the queen.
If this obeys cartoon rules, then she never kills anybody. Just knocks them out and slams into them. She eats someone but then spits them out through her nose.
Haven't watch the movie or read the comic, but I hope this makes a gorillion dollars so we can get more webcomic adaptations.
God this. Will never fricking happen though, Netflix doesn't want to fund animated things anymore and Disney and shit don't adapt comics that way. I wish we could get it, there are way more good comics than good cartoons and I am hate stories about highschool kids.
what the frick are these moronic posts ? Nimona's conflict is central to the comic and its themes of weaponized magic
it's not a good comic, but jesus lol
I bet your the kind of homosexual that says stupid shit like
>princess bubblegum in adventure time didn't get her character derailed, it was a natural progression of her character!
>how tf did this get adapted and not dead winter or kiwi blitz or whatever the frick else.
Not enough open gay characters
looks like a mobile game ad
I don't get how it was picked up for a movie at all, the graphic novel looks like shit. Don't dislike how the film looks, it's certainly a fricking glow-up that's for sure.
Didn't the GN sell well?
Yes, and it was a very popular webcomic.
I see recurring shilling but nothing posted about this show looks particularly interesting or even pretty to look at, looks like bottom of the barrel TV CGI fantasy #4243212
Yeah bro, fantasy
Also how about you watch the movie (it's a movie, not a show. Watch the trailers at least, clown). I don't know how to make clips but the animation is sick.
Yeah and the texture use in the new TMNT is pretty cool but I'm not dedicating my time to watch that piece of shit
You do understand I've been on the thread from the beggining, and every time you post this overly negative shit posters don't go up, right?
If you're gonna samegay, you gotta do it more cleanly and in a thread with more people, man.
Oh sorry I read the thread from top to bottom, go frick yourself
>shark form doesn't have boobs
Dropped
Just finished the movie
2nd best experience I've had with a film this year (first was spiderverse, predictably).
Ending's left me in shambles.
Is it really that good Annesister?
Don’t believe her lies
Yep. As one may infer from the fact that I love Amphibia, found family themes get to me. By the ending I was tearing up but the literal final scene of the movie just tore into me. I full on ugly-cried through the credits.
i will probably watch this.
i know the knights are gay. is that all the lgbt stuff in the movie or is there any other?
Nimona herself is a pretty obvious allegory to queer stuff, but she could also be read as pretty much any minority so eh.
looks like a 4-5/10
who would have thought this would mog ruby gillman
Well certainly not here since the ruby thread is getting more traction. This one’s slow as frick.
I'm laughing at the small handful of Gillman shills trying to make out this is a "two cakes" scenario.
I sincerely hope Noelle Stevenson drowns in a put of her own piss for having contributed this shit to the world
My biggest problems with the comic Is that everyone was a terrible person and as such I didn’t care about the drama. Nimona was an evil murderous b***h and her partner a moralist homosexual who couldn’t make up his mind. It’s true that murder is bad and Nimona is just a schizo, but on the other hand sometimes you do have to kill a b***h, and this dude just refused to do it for no good reason, all the while acting like an edgelord. His gay boyfriend was a complete c**t who didn’t deserve his forgiveness nor getting back together, and the world they lived in is so cartoonishly corrupt that it’s not worth saving. If the movie is like that then I’m not watching this shit.
Animation looks great though, really awesome style. Way better than the trash comic looked.
The movie pretty much fixes everything you seem to have a problem with. They toned down nimona, Bal is still a moralist but in a logical way, and Ambrosious is a lot more likable. The head of the government is still corrupt but you know, nothing too bad.
Reminder that ND is gonna take all the credit for this film despite the fact that the adaptation was written by all these other people.
He literally made a post on twitter a few hours ago saying Nimona isn't even his anymore, you absolute fricking homosexual.
>implying that will stop people from crediting Nate for the work
You’re so naive
That's not really ND's fault though.
>He
It's she, and her name is Noelle
Didn't you know? She's going by Nate now, she gave up the ghost and now considers herself a man. Y'know, the one thing she's hated for most of her miserable life.
>Nate
Why not Noel?
Most trans people prefer to change their name a lot and stay way from their old one. Stevenson said he only kept a name with an "N" because he wanted to still have his initials be ND
This your new approach? It's still only me and you in this dance, my dude.
>anybody who says anything bad about a creator I like (in Cinemaphile no less) is the same person
You would be as autistic as Marcy. Definitely not as cute though, so you’re just annoying.
Kek
wow, that proves a lot.
huh, at least two of those people have a wikipedia page
lol
lmao, even
You seem to be trying awfully hard to suck her imaginary dick.
Did the movie keep the tone of the original where it's really explicit that Nimona is an evil murderer? The trailers gave the vibe that they were toning it down and just making her into a generic quirky girl.
Seems they toned her down
Nah. I mean she's still unhinged and violent, but she doesn't explicitly kill people anymore (Though there's no way she didn't kill a few people given her shenanigans)
>Though there's no way she didn't kill a few people given her shenanigans
So like Nathan Drake
didn't kill anyone, she's a dindunuffin homosexual dragon
Does she get a girlfriend in this version? She dresses queer but in the comic didn’t show any attraction to anyone
Frick off, troony.
>Another kids product too afraid to have a character perma die at the end
She's literally immortal. The story starts with her getting killed and she's still there.
>The story starts
We learn that's a false narrative. A reoccurring issue as the Institute influences people's perceptions.
Her actually being immortal just means the sacrifice has no weight to it-- as most kids products where a character """"sacrifices"""" themselves.
is nimona a god by the standards of her verse
No, rather an unknown/monster. I think by the end of the GN she doesn't really know what she is still
The comic did the same thing.
I came in with really low expectations, mainly because of the visual style of the source material and Lumberjanes, which I never read, but this movie was actually pretty solid.
Went in cause I liked the visual style, but story was fun along with the visuals. Pretty impressed. Wasn't a 10/10 godly groundbreaking film, but I'm glad I watched it.
She will be his sidekick/adopted daughter now, right?
She probably is a century or so older than him.
Apparently the US just passed a law against gays so this movie releasing today is funny timing
>US just passed a law against gays
What was it?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-same-sex-couples_n_6481d91de4b025003edbde97
Might actually help the movie since people will watch it out of pure rage.
>the gay cake forcing a Christian bakery to shut down finally gets justice
What a time to be alive
Damn. First student loans and now this. SC is on fire.
>camping fricks up game's meta
>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-same-sex-couples_n_6481d91de4b025003edbde97
And this why pride flag & month still relevant
Vive la LGBTQ+
Nature is healing
>watch my corporate product to own the chuds, sisters!
Sounds comically dumb, so you're probably right.
>be homosexual
>get rights
>all you have to do at this point is just take your marriage and frick off and accept not everyone is going to accept you
>instead of relenting, keep pushing and try to burn a business to the ground for not baking you a cake
>now your rights are being revoked
Lmao what will future historians write this down as?
>Colorado’s anti-discrimination act, which prohibits denial of goods, services or facilities “because of disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, marital status, national origin, or ancestry,”
Wait... does that mean I could go to a vegan restaurant and demand a dish with meat due to *insert political/religious/etc... reason*?
Yup and call it a hate crime when they say they don't have it on the menu and force the place to close down
i got mad at this homosexual lefty movie, thanks for the news OP
hoping that gay "marriage" gets repealed and that sodomy gets criminalized for good
Rent free
Do you even know what that means? It's not rent free when they are front and center in the movie.
Why can’t gays just go to businesses that cater to them?
The most obvious issue is in small towns where options are limited or nonexistent.
Why don't blacks? Why don't women?
Not a business owner but I would guess the reason is at least you have plausible deniability or ignorance on whether or not you're selling to those groups but with gays they ask for gay things like two dudes kissing on a cake or whatever.
Random shit, but I like cartoons with MCs with beards, designs like that are so rare these days.
He was sex. I want to see his bulge.
I am glad he wasn't a generic long-haired twink or something. Knights with mustaches are underrated. Hope movie Ballister will get some fanart in the future.
>Ouken
Good taste anon
I am waiting for all the fanart too. Japan is going to eat it up.
Played by a Muslim
Just got done watching it myself. The animation was great and I liked the futuristic medieval setting but the plot and its pacing felt strangely off. It was hitting all the beats but the flow of one scene to the next felt rushed. As did the relationship between Ballister and Nimona. Maybe it'll feel better on a rewatch. Still an enjoyable time.
That's about what I expected. A lot of people forget this is a blue sky movie.
So how is it as an adaptation?
The comic had interesting ideas but lacked focus narratively and frankly I found Nimona herself annoying and unlikable.
The trailer makes Ballister seem a lot more goofy then he is in the comic - is he better in the movie?
I would say hes much more lovable in the movie and definetely the protagonist, wuch is weird in these types of movies. At times it feels like a story driven BL.
He was the protagonist in the comic too and was for me the most enjoyable part of it.
Glad that's true in the movie too - I'll give it a watch after work.
I actually like movie Ballister more than comic Ballister. He's a lot goofier than his comic counterpart, but his relationship with Nimona is actually a lot more fleshed out than in the graphic novel. He is goofier, but I think that makes him more lovable considering all the crazy bullshit he does in the movie.
I like both versions. I think movie Ballister works better for a movie simply because it's a story told in one long sitting, and it starts with him getting betrayed and becoming Public Enemy #1. The Ballister that keeps slipping into "what the frick is going on?" mode works well for the pace the movie has to set.
Cool and collected book Ballister still has a place in my heart though.
>movie looks unfinished
>Story looks like a generic Pixar story
>People will only talk about the gay kiss for like a week and immediately forget about the movie as is the case with these woke movies.
Watch Ruby Gillman instead.
They will definitely forget it by the time TMNT comes out
It's weird they didn't release it at the beginning of Pride month - it would've gotten a bit more attention I think.
It would have been buried anyways because spiderverse came after
You had me going, then I got to the punchline.
10/10.
>it's another cartoon adaptation butchering the source material
Nimona ain't meant to be that likeable.
>adaptation of ND's work is genuinely a great movie
>"How can we use this to somehow bash the creator?"
Genuinely surprised that I liked feMC. I even have trouble getting into series like amphibia since I just don't consider the characters appealing and it's usually even worse when they advertise the main female character as bratty but somehow it worked here, at least for me. Kinda felt sorry for her at the end. Maybe a bittersweet end would have worked as well for this movie, but I prefer the one we got.
The comic one was bittersweet
It's good you did. Unfortunately that's not the experience I got from watching this movie. I didn't like Nimona's character and came across as annoyingly quirky to sit through. I liked Anne from Amphibia much more in comparison.
>Kinda felt sorry for her at the end.
Stay away from narcissists, anok they will take advantage of you and abuse you emotionally if not physically
Its actually pretty damn good. Probably Blue Sky's best film since Robots.
It's no Last Wish, but it shits over just about all other Cinemaphile movies I've seen this year. Makes Elemental look embarrassing. Moreso.
I remember reading the graphic novel in 7th grade. It was an enjoyable read, but from what I can remember, Nimona felt more like a side character than a character deserving of a book title. Idk this movie might be alright tho.
it's named after her, but she supports the real protagonist, blackheart, kind of like a platonic (and literally monstrous) manic pixie dream girl. it's like how the series is named after haruhi but kyon's the MC.
it sounds like the movie does right by bally so i'm happy to check this out. i thought the GN was just alright but actually liked him a lot.
Nimona (in both the original work and this) isn't the MAIN character, but she does drive the story forward. She's a catalyst.
Thank god the knight isn't just a sidekick or something. I loved the character dynamic between him and Nimona but his design made me think he would just be a funny tertiary character or something. Actually happy I am wrong. This was surprisingly one of the very few animated movies I genuinely enjoyed in 2023 (and I count anime movies in, but they were all mediocre so far or fine at best IMO).
It’s baffling you have this takeaway since she bullies him into doing whatever she wants the entire film. If anything she’s sidekick in name only.
>Last Wish
>Into the Spiderverse
>Nimona
>Even fricking Super Mario Bros.
Non Disney animation is actually pretty stacked this year. Best animated picture should be interesting.
Spiderverse has it in the bag unless Wish is Encanto levels of popular
Super Mario Bros winning would be legitimately hilarious honestly.
Never ever, no matter how people try to spin it, it’s an illumination movie. And those never win the big awards. They don’t need to anyways, they’re the ones that make the most money currently.
I never said it would happen. I said it would be hilarious if it did. Also it may be a low bar to clear but Mario is legit Illumination's best film.
>Mario is legit Illumination's best film.
No. Despicable Me is because they actually tried with that film
Despicable Me made an effort.
Sing and Sing 2 had a little bit of charm. Not much but some.
Pets 1 was... okay. Not great, not terrible.
Pets 2 was terrible. The additional Despicable/Minion movies were terrible.
The best thing in The Lorax was the Rock Opera musical number they cut out.
Hop, Grinch, and Mario were wastes of potential.
This is a company that averages out to be shockingly bad.
Lol I forgot about Wish when I said this
Depends entirely if the competition has critic pleasing movies. Turning Red would have won last year had Pinnochio not come out. So far no critic pleasing animated movies seem to come this year besides the Miyazaki one, and who knows if they’ll even see that in time.
At this point I am convinced that Miyazaki will die while in the middle of a project. And thats exactly how he would want it.
Suzume got pretty good reviews but since it’s a non-Ghibli anime it has no chance of getting nominated.
Frick Wish.
Miyazaki has it in the bag.
He only won once when the competition was fricking Ice Age. The awards aren't going to give it to a nip when there are so many critically acclaimed films this year we made ourselves. Plus Disney hasn't released their movie yet.
>Best animated picture
They might not, but do you think the Oscars might pull some shit and give it to Elemental instead b/c of Disney-ABC running the show?
I don't think so. What would be really funny is if Super Mario bros takes it because the academy bases it on what their grandchildren saw that year.
The potential was always there but Disney always dominated the market with shit, maybe people are just finally waking up or maybe smaller studios and teams just finally get the opportunity to make movies as well. I hope this trend continues, I legit never liked pixar.
elemental is going to win anyways
Not a chance
I already expected them to remove Nimona actually killing people, but did they have to take literally everything else that was slightly interesting in the book and dumb it down for babies as well? I mean the graphic novel wasn't exactly hardcore, I'm sure this movie's intended child audience would still be able to understand it.
so is this movie actually good or is it just another case of shills making shit up to make the movie look better than it is? Apparently they show LGBT colors at the end of the film so I don't know if I even wanna give this a chance
Judging from the reactions it seems to appeal to two audiences
>fans of wacky comedic duos
>overly sensitive people who cry about any sad character finding love in their life
So basically it sucks then. Good to know, I'll avoid this film
Frick you man I just like KNIGHTS.
Knights are great, we need more knights
It's almost weird how rare they are. Knights are made for cartoons. They are the archetypal heroes, they have great armor and use swords and they are made for being the MCs in a fantasy setting, but somehow it's more likely to see evil knights than one of them being MC these days and even the villain knights are already rare. Maybe it's just because genuine fantasy is less common now, no idea. Most cartoons seem to stick to the real world, are sci-fi only or they somehow center on normal highschool kids ending up in foreign places.
Add Fujos and extumblrs or leftist twitter.
Watch it and form your own opinion, Jesus.
Just did, wow that was a waste of time, everyone here who liked that trash have a nice day
>Cinemaphile posters
>able to think for themselves
All they do is ship lesbians, watch e-celebs who tell them what "obscure" movies and shows to watch, and then discuss whatever Twitter talks about.
Not him but sometimes I wish someone would already nuke youtube and wherever else people get their opinions from these days. It's not even a gen z only problem, I know people my age I once respected that are now incapable of watching anything if some youtuber didn't tell them so. They also hate everything one of them criticizes without ever watching it.
The sad thing is they are all parasites that only review already made content. But its the kind of trash you put when you dont want to pay it much attention, unlike a good movie, so it gets more views. The new reality tv.
Until not too long ago I believed it was a bad attention span that made people prefer to watch quick summaries of a series or movie over watching the thing itself. But these videos aren't just boring as shit, most of them are also long as hell. A friend once legit linked me a yt "review" that ran for longer than the fricking 2h movie it was about. I of course told my friend to suck my dick and clicked it away, I can watch a whole new movie in that time or watch four episodes of a cartoon or anime I like. Something I actually enjoy, not some jobless homosexual doing self-shilling and forced jokes.
>Apparently they show LGBT colors at the end of the film
based
>Apparently they show LGBT colors at the end of the film so I don't know if I even wanna give this a chance
don't tell me you actually support this
Yes
>All of these seething She-Ra fans coming out of the woodworks.
kek
>seething
What's there to seethe over?
That's my point.
>Don't tell me you support this
>We support this
>Ha! Look at you guys seethe!
Your point is a bit shit.
It irks you that people are pointing out what's wrong with the movie.
Yes. But I also bought the Kingdom Come game which is made by a vocal conservative. I support all shit I enjoy.
>the Kingdom Come game which is made by a vocal conservative.
>Dude bought a patch of land for his game studio
>Said patch of land included a soap factory and a distillery
>Offered room and board to those that offered to work in the studio, factory, or distillery
>A conservative made a game about feudalism and became a feudal lord
There's that guy from The Hollow, but he came out in season 2.
>Implying The Hollow was a real show
Man, first ep was promising and then it just progressively began shitting the bed more and more.
I mean Kingdom Come is a genuinely good game IMO. I enjoyed Nimona as well and would always be happy if something that isn't Disney or anime could be successful.
I don't care much about the people that make a thing if I enjoy it, with a few exceptions. I buy shit regardless of whether the creator is a conservative, leftist or gay. The exception are actual crimes like murder or cp or some shit. I wouldn't buy Burzum music even though I like it. Won't condemn people that do, but I wouldn't do it. Not sure how real and serious the cp claims against the Kenshin mangaka are, but from what I know they are legit enough to make me pirate that show as well next month. Decent manga, but not sure if I want to give it clicks anymore.
>if something that isn't Disney or anime could be successful.
But it's Netflix. Disney succeeding is ugh, but Netflix succeeding is yay?
Netflix isn't a brand, they just buy licenses it's like a tv channel. You also quoted the wrong post.
>Not sure how real and serious the cp claims against the Kenshin mangaka are, but from what I know they are legit enough to make me pirate that show as well next month.
>Ugh, they do crimes! It upsets me so much that as soon as their content is out, I'm pirating it!
LOL
I am not funding literal murderers like Varg or any sort of gay that uses it to commit serious crimes, reddit spacer, yes. I don't give a shit whether a creator is conservative or leftist though because I don't care. And yeah I chose to consider actual cp more or less of a crime and don't want to give my money to a guy that jerk offs to porn with kids. From what I have heard it was actual cp, not some 17 year old girls showing their boobs or something.
Subtitle like a sledgehammer to the foot.
These are the colors of the Covenant with God I think.
>Putting that shit in the credits
This is the ultimate "we can edit it out for overseas" push, lmao. At least the troony shit for the countries that think gays are okay but trans is too much.
I do. Whatcha gonna do about it. Cry? Shit your pants? Throw a tantrum, you little baby?
>Cinemaphilemblr doesn't exi-
Explain to me, using words, why I should be upset by this.
It's real and gay.
It's no Last Wish, but it's a damn sight better than Elemental, Ruby, Mummies, and My Father's Dragon. I haven't seen Spider-verse yet so I can't say how it compares to that.
It looks neat as expected from Blue Sky but as always
>gays
>as always
This motherfricker pretending like gay male leads aren't goddamn Unicorns by Cinemaphile standards.
You're right, I should have said homosexuals because their writings about queer stories are always the same in its core
Your jpg could use more artifacts.
>as always gays
Benson from Kipo and Ballister here. Please point me to any other gay leads in cartoons recently, if you will.
Dragon Age: Absolution
If it was lesbians you might have a point, but gays? Cinemaphile is constantly complaining that it's always gay women and never gay men.
>The sight of a rainbow makes him recoil
Are you fricking Russian
So all the gay shit is reserved at the end credits? God damn, I can turn off at the end and not deal with homosexualry.
There's a gay couple that's pretty central to the plot man - if you don't wanna watch gay shit just give the movie a skip.
Nah it sounds like bros being chummy. Have you ever had a close friend before? Probably not.
I mean if you kiss your bros on the mouth go right ahead man live your life.
>Bro doesn’t know about Italians
>Watch
>Cringe
/co/'s shilling again, I see.
Were they this fricking incessant+on the nose about trans allegory in the graphic novel? Granted I only skimmed the Cinemaphile storytime but don't remember that.
>Nimona gets the intellectual upper hand against Bal and repeatedly calls him small-minded for asking reasonable questions in the movie
The metaphor and message is fricking not subtle it isn't funny lmao
Why they named it "the institute"
Why does she keep making these sexy faces?
You mean he. Nimona seems like an asexual character. I never understood why the other guy got a hint of jealousy.
Yeah technically Nimona is nothing not even a human, or everything. However you see it. She's like that MC from To your Eternity and maybe just as old as him.
Now that you mentioned it, it is exactly the Your eternity character, I wonder who was created the eternal shapeshifter trophe first, because Im sure its not the first time it appears, and kind if a trickster more than a tragic character in fables and mith. Here it is both.
There are most likely way older stories with such concepts. Most religions or cultures have stories about formless entities that existed forever and appeared in all kinds of shapes in order to hide, deceive or fit in. It's a cool concept actually, so while a movie doesn't have enough time to thematize it thoroughly I liked that they have at least shown us those flashbacks about how Nimona tried and failed to ever intermingle with others. Until now, that is.
Her huge mouth is activating my neurons.
i had a feeling the monster looked familiar..
Does that mean that Link is gay?
always has been
Link is for Midna
I was thinking it too, although the one in the movie looked a lot cooler.
It actually reminded me more to Sinh (FFX)
Yeah I actually had that feeling too. Definitely prefer the 'literal force of nature' vibe that this one had, though. Think it would've fit the story of The Imprisoned too.
The homos were so much more interesting in the graphic novel, which is a feat because that thing wasn't even that good in the first place. Why do they have to make gays in movies/TV perfect uwu babies who have no flaws.
>backstory flashback introduces Ambrosius and Ballister as good friends who grew up together
>but Ambrosius made a deal under the table to score a promotion on the condition he won a joust against Bal
>in a moment of desperation after losing he blasts Bal's arm off
>in subsequent appearances Ambrosius is still helpful to Bal, so clearly there's still affection
>but Amb still refuses to apologize for the joust thing or even admit it wasn't an accident, he insults Bal and says he was a shit knight when confronted about it
>story doesn't explicitly reveal that they were actually romantically involved until later on, which adds another dimension to the betrayal
>the two actually have an arc and reconcile once Amb finally apologizes and he was a douche
vs
>Ballister and Eugene Yang are holding hands and saying I love you in the first 3 minutes of the movie
>Eugene is completely supportive of Bal and hypes up how Bal is the best knight ever
>has to be held back from confronting people who bully Bal
>he only cuts off his arm because he saw Bal "murdering" the queen, so logically he's completely justified and has no reason to feel guilt even though the movie tries to do this bizarre anti-cop message that says it was wrong to use violence to stop someone who just assassinated a political figure, and how the knights' training was wrong
>also they created a movie original jerkass chud knight character purely so Eugene would look even more noble by comparison
Oh that actually sounds like a terrible change.
I honestly prefer the movie version to be honest. I get you regarding flaws, but I would rather prefer there to be no romance at all if Ambrosius acted like this. Maybe it's just me but I can't stand the butthole/hero pairing in which the ass actively fricks up the hero's life and the latter just handwaves it away and tells the other character that he still loves her/him.
It's literally what pissed me off about Catdora, so I am not surprised that it was written by the same author.
yeah this movie sounds terribly written I can't believe people are actually praising it
You SAY the first one sounds interesting, but we've seen She-Ra and Catra. Noelle's gay relationships tend to have this really unsettling underline of abuse in them and I'd rather have a Disney couple than go, "What the frick? They STILL get together at the end despite being poison for each other?".
Yeah this. I enjoyed She-Ra but I never understood that pairing. Strangely other pairings were well made, especially Entrapta and Hordak, so I don't get why the main ship always have to be like that. I like Ballister, so I would have been legit mad if he ended up getting together with a guy that cut his arm off for being jelly. Envious people are the worst shit, they only socialize with others to compete and feel superior than them. The moment the partner is better at something they lash out. Legit monkey behavior.
I've seen both and comic Ballister+Ambrosius never struck me as toxic like She-ra. Ballister doesn't take any of Ambrosius' shit post-incident until he actually apologizes and even after they begin to work on reconciling there's no triumphant kiss of true love or crap like that.
peak tumblr art style
Seeing panels from this comic is inspiring. If this is good enough to become a movie, my garbage art is good enough for a comic that will be ignored by people on the Internet.
The author made a webcomic that got attention, but more important, she got a good agent early on. Those can move in the publishing and ip business easier.
Does my MKultra handler count as an agent?
Piece of advice: Panel flow and composition, on top of pacing, are a million times more important than pretty drawings. Good writing does tend to be a must if your drawings aren't too great, but that's besides the point.
One Punch Man has incredible panelling and flow, and that's the main reason it succeeded, not the "lol lmao superhero parody, so deep" aspect as so many iditos believe.
The original, which was what succeeded?
No, lol. It was just fun. The panelling and the art was shit.
I absolutely agree. A comic or manga might look mediocre regarding details and art itself but have stunning paneling that grasp your attention, leads the eye and conveys a mood or emotion just positioning the characters in the right way, emphasize parts with lights and shading or make proper use of backgrounds. I feel like a lot of artists completely ignore that part and solely focus on lineart of the characters and maybe details.
This is one of the main reasons for why webtoons suck ass by the way. Their panels aren't connected, it's just white background with mostly isolated panels you have to scroll down to. It literally erases half of the unique artistic value comics have.
webtoons are optimised for how they are viewed: scrolling down on a monitor or phone. it's not as pretty as traditional panelling but it is the right decision for the format it has.
Stevenson started off doing free fan comics on a free website, then made a webcomic. Webcomic proved popular enough to land a book deal (the publisher didn't know Stevenson, they just took a chance on a webcomic because it seemed like something younger readers would be interested in). The webcomic led to some other comic work, and eventually a job doing a bit on Wander Over Yonder, which subsequently opened enough of a door to allow for a showrunner pitch that proved popular. Along the way that growing resume and the awards that Nimona had won were enough to attract the attention of Blue Sky, which decided this was worth a shot.
Thanks for the insight.
Netflix hasn't massively screwed up global copyright law, so it's certainly the lesser of two evils.
>Netflix hasn't massively screwed up global copyright law
No instead it massively screwed up the entire entertainment industry so that niche shows will no longer be produced going forward. Everything has to be a blockbuster right out the gate or be erased from history a week after release. The fact that Netflix spent a fricking decade normalizing a business model that is not sustainable can be viewed as cultural sabotage.
God what fricking garbage art.
>Ballister hands Nimona a scroll of a dragon girl setting fire to the kingdom and asks if it's her
>Nimona: "Do you really think I would do something like that?!!"
>after she's spent her entire time with Ballister talking about how much she loves destroying things and murdering people and expressing her desire to be a villain
It doesn't seem like they put much thought into this script.
The scroll showed the dragon burning people alive, not destroying items. She didn't even attack randomly, everytime she actively smashed something it was either property of the institute that she hates or related to the depiction of monsters, like when she passed by to make that electric horse malfunction when the boy riding it pretended to be a heroic monster hunter.
Why is her teeth sharp like that?
Who is the character designer for this movie? I really like the designs. I am glad they remade them and only vaguely stuck to the original looks.
Oli, a spanish character designer worked on this. He probabbly has something to do with the main guy.
yep, confirm
>Nimona is the voice of moral superiority and literally has to lecture Ballister multiple times on how it's a righteous act to take down corrupt establishments
>Ballister is a pussified drone who takes forever to convince
Granted I've only read the wikipedia plot summary and Cinemaphile discussion on the comic, but this does not seem like the how the characters are supposed to act.
Pretty fun, I liked it. How’s the comic version?
underwhelming
Worse, IMO. It has some interesting bits that didn’t get adapted but it fails at making you feel bad about the people you’re supposed to feel bad about. It has the She-ra problem of the main couple being weirdly toxic, so I guess it’s a signature of Noel’s writing.
>See a trailer of this
>Get really excited to finally see a big 3DCG movie in 2023 that is ACTUALLY splined in animation, instead of the shitty stop motion fad everyone keeps doing these days because they can't do shit but pass basic blockout as their "style".
>Apparently people say it's some gay shit
Monkey fricking paw
Sorry, anon.
Same, waste of a good style
Even with gay knights and still less homosexual than anything pixar and dreamworks put out.
Mario Bros doesn't have any stop motion in it.
Uh guys... Nimona is straight, right?
Technically Nimona is everything since she isn't even anything human and therefore not a girl in the actual sense. I feel like her and Gloreth could have become a thing if it hadn't ended in that tragic event.
Was that part in the comic by the way? I never read it but something is telling me that it wasn't in the story. I liked the flashback a lot.
I really liked this scene. It might be cliche but I like the human befriending scary non-human trope where the non-human is vilified but actually a good guy. Stuff like Iron Giant and such.
anyone has a link to the graphic novel?
Also mega link would be much appreciated
So was it part of the Try Guy's contract that they had to redesign the character to look like him and also they had to remove all his flaws and constantly reinforce what a good guy he is?
>movie opens with everyone calling him "Ballister Boldheart"
>assume there's gonna be a fun character arc where he plays into the villain label and changes it to "Blackheart" like in the original comic
>movie ends and nothing changes
Wait what?
Why did they change his Blackheart but not make his BF's name slightly less ridiculous? To be completely honest I've known about Nimona's existence for 8~ years and have read the characters' names multiple times, but it literally never clicked with me until the movie said it out load that it's "GoldenLOIN" instead of "Goldenlion"
*out loud, clearly spelling is not my strong suit
i don't understand this. blackheart is an objectively better name.
Their bond felt so much more earned in the graphic novel. Here Ballister is completely apprehensive about the relationship until he has no other options left but to rely on Nimona alone, they pull one successful sting operation where he's actually enjoying himself, followed by a dance party, and then in that same night he turns on her after a secret meeting with his boyfriend.
Then the next time they meet it's time for the film to be over.
Honestly surprised that nobody has commented on Nimona's fat slabby ass yet.
American women all have this body type now. And then will have the gall to brag about what a nice ass they have, when they're just fat and short.
I need casual nudity with Nimona dancing her fat freckled cheeks in front of the stove while making breakfast tacos.
she's got that goblin mode bodytype
Damn. I thought she was a cute e-girl from the little pictures I've seen, but she's just a shortstack. There goes my interest in this movie.
She has a cute e-girl form anon, don't be dismayed
Oh, anon. She is an eternal e-girl. She is an ageless and immortal forest spirit that has started wearing the skin of a damaged and deranged teenage girl because humans hurt her so many times she's started to look that way as a defensive mechanism.
But when she lets down her guard, back to the e-girl form she goes.
She has no real form it seems and she initially transformed into a cute e-girl until her dreams were shattered and she assumed the yolo attitude.
She looks almost exactly like the "How to appeal to Tumblr" image.
Who wants to use excessive force on her?
So how does it end anyways
I do not like this show
I do not like when she makes those faces
I do not like when she shows her fangs
My penis feels weird.
>i-it's not like I like this or anything, baka!
>cancel this and make Lightyear, Strange World, and Elemental instead
Disney is dumb.
it's too woke for them. Disney is all about having just enough subtly that parents can still take their kids to see their movies, but nimona is so up-in-your-face with it's messages that parents would actually complain about this
And I didn't watch any of those three.
i'd say disney generally wants properties it can keep under its thumb and wont embarrass it too bad. nimona has actual gay men in it, plus a creator who probably wouldn't stay quiet if they tried to make it less homo.
But isn't that new "latinx" series disney too? If anything this is the big embarrassment now that everybody talks about, not a gay knight with beard.
disney channel is disconnected from the main brand enough that it doesn't affect what actually matters
> Strange World
Honestly this one was the most confusing one of all since if you're going to have a gay pandering movie at least pick the one that isn't a boring environmental message
I wondered about the same thing. I was interested in Nimona as soon as I saw the trailer and shit but nothing in this world would ever make me pick up Strange World. It had gay stuff too so that cannot be the reason. Maybe Nimona was just not ugly enough for disney standards or the MC not enough of a fat blob.
thats exactly why it got to be gay. it' a movie disnye didn't care about to start with. it will be a decade minimum before disney has a headliine animated movie with gay protagonist in it.
The thing is that Disney DID care. Regardless of the movie's quality it's clear Disney deliberately buried the movie due to the fact they couldn't edit out the gayness.
Had the execs not minded they would've just let it release with a normal ammount of publicity. They've released hot fricking garbage with a shitton of fanfare so it's clear it's not the movie's quality that they were hung up over.
>watch movie because the first few posts in this thread said it was surprisingly decent
>I've seen PSAs with more subtle messaging
You guys got me good.
Let me guess, you're used to seeing and obsessing over subtext in media that isn't there and assume that any work that actually features subtext is blatant and flashy.
Personally attacking someone for not liking a movie you project onto is poor form, Peter.
So with all the cuts Netflix did to their animation department to the point of destroying it entirely, how did Nimona get to continue? I'm genuinely curious, I'm not adding a hint of anger or anything to it. Did some Netflix producer with power really, really believe in it? Did it have Ellen-esque money like Green Eggs & Ham?
Maybe it was simply almost finished and it's a movie, so no point abandoning that project after all the money they have poured in.
I wish someone would tell that to AMC+ too and their shitty way of handling Pantheon.
it was finished enough that they essentially bought an almost complete movie and probably only had to spend a quarter of what it cost blue sky to be wrapped up
what this anon said basically
meanwhile the only original Netflix film they were making was scrapped. It bums me out I'm the only one who actually knows about this since I'm literally the only one that ever talks about it. I have a ton of art saved for this shit on my computer
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/133170056/#q133171019
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/134489962/
Such is Cinemaphile life, sadly. Sometimes you are the only one who cares.
I would be interested to know the reason that made the government erect the walls. There is obviously a good world to be found outside that state, so why?
Did they just build the wall because they simply wanted to rule and an isolated city-state with a government based on fear of monsters outside of the walls is easier to reign over and manipulate? Is the isolation the result of conflicts with other countries? Or is the outside world just full of benevolent monsters and other species that Gloreth and her lackeys tried to hide because they believed that everything non-human was evil?
Ok I finally read the damn graphic novel. After seeing all the discussion in this thread and elsewhere on Cinemaphile that called the character a homicidal psycho I was expecting Nimona to be like The Monster of the Andes or something. But it's just a story about a girl who was tortured in a lab who grew to lash out with violence and no longer cared who she hurt, that has a bittersweet ending where she survives but is separated from the one person who really treated her as a friend. I thought it was completely inoffensive with no glaring writing problems and have no idea what the people going "Wow the movie fixed the story!" are talking about.
It’s still mediocre crap with unlikable characters and a generic message
>But it's just a story about a girl who was tortured in a lab who grew to lash out with violence and no longer cared who she hurt, that has a bittersweet ending where she survives but is separated from the one person who really treated her as a friend
Okay but getting bullied doesn’t excuse blatant disregard for other peoples lives as a response to get back at them. The story thinks that by having such a boring "SOCIETY LE BAD" message you wouldn’t hold it against Nimona for killing loads of people. But I do.
This, plus there were panels in the end of the graphic novel that showed people fricking mourning the people Nimona killed. The book expects me to feel bad for a murderous little shit just because she was abused and yet also wants me to feel something over people losing their loved ones.
>But it's just a story about a girl who was tortured in a lab who grew to lash out with violence and no longer cared who she hurt
That sounds like the most cliche villain backstory ever.
I just watched it, and made something.
Notice how she's red head girl, with shapeshifting?
So, first we should rank the toon red hair girls top 5 or top 10.
Then remake the pic i'm putting here.
This is a 2nd draft.
I might edit it again later.
Even in 2nd draft i didn't realize the pic of vicky was too big, and didn't work small.
Extra thick.
I guess i should maybe change that.
Nimona is for daughtering
This was a really fun setting I love sci-fi fantasy with knights. Cannot remember the last time I saw this besides the dreams I have at night.
>"nooo this movie's gonna fail it had no marketing"
>"nobody's gonna watch it due to the gay shit"
>"nimona is unlikable the movie will fail"
Nimona enjoyers always knew this movie would be a bop.
ok netflix shill
Based on what metrics? The fact that nothing else was uploaded at the same time or that netflix put it on the front page so everyone sees it when they sign in?
Netflix never showed their metrics. They just ride the wave.
So the article is just bullshitting.
You just noticed?
arcane sisters...
Ah you have a few more years till season 2 is out
HBOMax said the same thing about Velma. I ain't putting much stock in this. This thread barely has a hundred posters where most posts are saying unflattering things about it with only a small handful actually praising it.
I love this movie, but stop posting clickbait.
Not him but yeah. No source etc. The only visible rankings are on netflix itself the "top movies" and all that but they are only showing the tops right now so being up there doesn't mean that much and the actual tops are always part of bigger IPs, korean garbage or something edgy anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Nimona did well, but the most popular animated movies are probably Ghibli stuff.
ITT: poltics once again ruin a movie from being discussed
it's over. There's more people in this thread who haven't watched the movie arguing about shit then people who have watched the movie and enjoyed it. Time to pack the the thread up.
Saw it. Wasn't good. You know it wasn't good either because no one is discussing anything of substance about it.
So if you didn't like it you obviously didn't watch it, is your take?
Lol shill harder.
The movie is dogshit. Cope, seethe and dillate before your second anus closes and grows hair inside.
i havent seen dilate in a while. get with it grandpa
Not many things can get into your basement.
Mainly due to the smell. I get that the jars of piss save you from getting upstairs to pee, but if you're not going to empty them, could you at least put the lid on them?
I don't like Stevenson
And She-Ra was painfully medicore
But I'm actually having fun with this movie, it actually is by far the best western animated movie of the year so far[/spoiler[
So does Stevenson still have a massive axe to grind or has he calmed the hell down?
I am a homosexual but I refuse to watch this because I find Noelle annoying.
Wow this thread is slow as frick, nobody actually cares huh
>cartoon pushed for lgbtstuff and much diversity but ugly characters
The audience is Twitter not here.
I mean, it IS absolutely burying the competition on twitter.
But that's because it's a better movie than the competition. It shits on Ruby Gillman and Elemental. And Little Mermaid Redux, for that matter.
Honestly was about to ask what the competition was because I forgot those two came out recently
>Recently
Elemental came out recently. Gillman came out today. And from the looks of things nobody is going out to see it. They're staying in and seeing Nimona instead. Gillman is pulling in even less sales than the dismal projections a few days ago, they're estimating maybe $6M this weekend. Maybe. That's "oh dear God" bad for a movie with a $70M budget.
>because it’s a better movie
You and I know that’s not why
No, it really really really really is. Nobody is even going to see Gillman, and the paid-to-see-it critics are giving it praise like "well it's a generic coming of age story, but the scenery is nice!"
Being much better than Elemental and Ruby Gillman is practically a layup.
I just finished it and it's honestly not a bad movie. I most likely wouldn't watch it again, but it was enjoyable and even fun. A lot of the plot points were rushed as frick like the shit with Todd finding Ballister's hideout and the ending, but for a BlueSky movie, this might be some of their best work.
It's up there with Robots and Rio.
And quite frankly I'm just getting pissed all over again that Disney shut the studio down. Meanwhile fricking Illumination can't make a good movie if handed freight trains of money.
I liked the animation and visual jokes better in Nimona, but that's just experience.
>Meanwhile fricking Illumination can't make a good movie if handed freight trains of money.
Illumination's entire business model is to make a profitable movie as cheaply as possible. Normally, it would have taken years to find an original character that is profitable and instantly recognizable like Adult Swim and R&M but whether through dumb luck or through research, they struck it rich with the minions and now they never have to worry about going bankrupt for the foreseeable future.
Shills run out of steam quickly
only reason i give a frick at all is because i'd rather see more she-ra reboot. still won't watch nimona though. i read the comic and it was mediocre
>"I have a million questions."
>"You get one."
>"Why are you helping me?"
Well played.
What are some animals you wish she turned into?
Dragon was cool, but t-rex/dino (would be simular) would be cool too.
A shark with breasts. The dire lack tanked this to a 1/10 movie.
That was fun.
Ending was more cliche, and I don't like fake deaths. So pointless.
we support stevenson now?
A. She was barely involved with this movie. She's the co-producer.
B. She's good as long as she has a tard wrangler. She can write characters and maybe even some decent stories as long as someone can tell her "no" when it comes to stupid suggestions.
nimona's animations were really fun and the highlight for me
great acting and exaggeration on her facial expressions
much more appealing design than the comic and id be lying if i wasnt excited for lewds to start cropping up
story wasnt groundbreaking and had some weird pacing issues, but it was engaging
people shitting on it need to get the stick out their ass and learn to have some fun again
Did you draw this based on an earlier post I made or was that pure coincidence? Either way frickin' saved. Delicious stuff.
Need more nudist nimona.
We need more porn of her.
>Checks for Nimona r34
>Absolutely nothing
I was thinking somebody would post something with her movie design but no. This is genuinely one of the first lewds I've seen now.
I thought I would hate this but I actually really enjoyed it.
A reminder.
I mean yeah, he was obsessed over men because he was jealous up until he realized he's trans.
I know you posted this with the intention of the rest of us retching in disgust because he's a troony or whatever but I don't really care for that. I hope he's happier this way and actually realizes that his envy doesn't excuse the fact he said really shitty things about men and should apologize for them.
>I hope he's happier
>I know you posted this with the intention of the rest of us retching in disgust because he's a troony or whatever but I don't really care for that.
You wish I was, just so you could fabricate a moral justification for your frustration. The point is she's a bitter person that takes out her insecurities and emotional baggage on other people. She projects and copes with them through whatever she makes in unhealthy ways, and has contributed to overall animosity in the industry. This is not someone with the moral sense nor self awareness to make level headed judgement on the themes to incorporate in her story, let alone tackle the subjects she does. I get separating the art from the artist, but she intertwines so much of it with her own angst and personality that it isn't hard to see why anything made by her wouldn't be appealing.
>What's the point of living as someone who isn't you?
When that comes at the harm of others without guilt, regard, or self accountability.
>The point is she's a bitter person that takes out her insecurities and emotional baggage on other people.
When did I claim otherwise? Dude was a shitty person because he was bitter he didn't have a wiener. I'm not sure what you assume I think, but IMO the graphic novel was fricking garbage and the movie fixes most of the issues, so I don't get your attempts at a self-important lecture.
>IMO the graphic novel was fricking garbage
Agreed.
>and the movie fixes most of the issues
Only to replace them with new ones like pressing a bump on a carpet.
>When did I claim otherwise?
>I don't get your attempts at a self-important lecture.
Well, you did try to claim my argument was purely aimed at her being trans.
>jealous up until he realized he's trans
Probably just hides that inferiority complex better now that she has a destructive outlet in the form of her own body. Plus no one can criticize her now that she jumped from the untouchable class of yesteryear to now.
Bet her wife still makes her sleep on the couch like the b***h she is, no amount of surgery is going to make her prefer whatever she gets plastered between her legs to the real thing.
>I hope he's happier
>troony
>Being happier
She has had a decade straight of mental instability. Anyone who lobs off their breasts in order to "feel happier" is a fricking future suicide statistic waiting to happen.
Honestly, I have a gut feeling this is all part of a paranoia of Molly leaving for good to go after a biological man.
Which begs the question if the whole transition would only slow up a bit, or speed it up a lot.
Nimona can "transition" into a man at will. It exclude her of " author self insert".
>A reminder
Obsessed
>Cinemaphilemblur user calling people obsessed
Just finished it, easy 8/10. There was more substance here than fricking Spiderverse, a movie I also liked. Chlomo does a great job voice acting, as do Riz Ahmed and the man playing his bf. I think without the LGBT aspect, they could've put this in theaters and made loads of money.
Just finished it, easy 3/10. No where as good as Super Mario.
I've gotta say, I really fricking loved The Director as a villain. A simple but extremely well-executed on a total piece of alabaster-marble shit who has power and thinks she knows what's best for everyone.
I'm very annoyed that Blue Sky died before this could be in theaters.
It actually had a stealth release on Regal theaters, supposedly. I can't confirm, but it's implied that that Regal was using Minona as it's secret movie this week.
It's shitty that Blue Sky is dead, but this was one hell of a swansong.
>60 people say it's very good.
With 60 bucks I can beat that number with random people in the street.
Get woke, goes rock!
That was a blast. Is this what it's like to watch a fun movie? I'd forgotten.
Did anyone else just find it really funny that The Queen had the exact same voice as Shadow Weaver.
They didn't. Lorraine Toussaint did Shadow Weaver as a self-important theater matron. Evil but fun, and with a flair for drama. And she did a superb job.
Frances Conroy did a masterful job as a controlling old politician that thinks she knows what's best for everyone and will not allow dissent. There was no room for playfulness in her voice. A simple but fantastic villain.
I think Nimona is going to be received similarly to Spiderverse. The majority of people will overlook very glaring flaws with the plot, writing, character development, and political overtones when fixed on the art style and animation. It's eerily similar to what happened with Avatar WoW for both of these films. Good visuals, but nothing home to write about otherwise. Maybe e-celebs like Critical Drinker will gush over it like he did with Spiderverse if he notices it. Screencap if it happens. What is it with a pretty screen that bypasses judgement of everything else?
criticizing films that have black main characters or woke themes means your an anti and if you do it anywhere else on the internet besides Cinemaphile you're basically putting a big red target on your back that says "cancel me" and a bunch of people will block/report your account just for having a negative opinion
I’m not watching it solely because of trans pandering.
Shame because it looked like a fun film
Finally got around to watching it.
Yup, just a dime-a-dozen movie starring a gay man framed for regicide, in a sci-fi futurescape with King Arthur aesthetics, where the villain is a government resistant to change and gripped with fear of ancient enemies that never truly existed, culminating in a scene where the title character unambiguously attempts suicide in a moment of pure despair.
You seen one, you seen 'em all.
Are the homos at least attractive?
Yeah, kinda. The blonde asian one looks a little bit like a douche, but the cripple is cute.
Would I be right in saying this is the only Cinemaphile movie where the title character attempted suicide? I can't think of any Ralph Bakshi or French film with it, and I can't imagine any mainstream American movie doing it.
If by "attempted suicide" you mean "self-sacrifice," then Iron Giant fits the bill.
>Superman
One of the few scenes in animated films that consistently gets me damn close to shedding a tear.
Huh, interesting point. It had a similar feel, but like you said IG's spin was self-sacrifice. This was a very very very old timeless being that had spent her whole life alone and in a moment of utter despair she tried to end it all by impaling herself on the statue of the very first person she thought could maybe be her friend.
I'd say "I'm willing to die to save the day" and "I don't want to be alive any more" are very different things to put in an animated movie.
purely out of despair? those cars in the 'worthless' part of the brave little toaster maybe.
i think maybe also carl from up, aint no way he was going to come back from paradise falls alive.
Wow that was actually good, the trailer I saw made it look stupid as frick but I really enjoyed that.
I get that Americans could never handle it, but I feel like the stronger ending would have been committing to Nimona's death and keeping her dead, or doing like the graphic novel and hinting that she's been reborn but in a different form that doesn't reunite with Ballister.
But we don't live in the world where that movie could get made in the States.
I genuinely think this could at least get nominated for Best Picture. Not saying it should win (we've got a Miyazaki AND a non-sequel Disney movie coming out), but it's solid enough that it should get a nomination. Better than Elemental, that's for damn sure.
From an animation technique perspective, that's fair, but that's all it really has.
Wish they'd kept the bit with Nimona giving a fake origin to Blackheart then forgetting what she'd said when he referenced it later. That was one of my favorite moments from the book, such a great rug-pull Oh Frick moment.
Every single piece of promo art shows that annoying cringe ass quirky b***h, smirking and smiling like a damn moron, and it worked well to make me NOT watch this shit.
It's ok.
Good narrative and concept, good animation although it's overly expressive sometimes, overall decent in every other way.
There's some weird stuff with editing and storyboarding and some dialogue that doesn't work in tandem with the action/narrative and honestly I'm starting to get burnt out by the heavy handed progressive stuff but whatever.
Also Nimona a cute
cute
I'm struck by how diametrically different the ad campaign for this and Ruby Gillman are. Gillman told you exactly what movie you were getting to the point of spoiling the whole damn plot.
With this you got a taste of what Nimona's surface personality is, a little inkling of the setting, and a couple glimpses of Ballister, without spoiling anything. You could go in thinking you were getting an average tween adventure, completely unaware you'd be getting an emotional gutpunch at some point.
Dreamworks should fire their ad agency, basically.
Haven't seen the other trailer but this is truly pants-on-head moronic. But I assume it's done on purpose, like those shitty anime and light novels that use their synopsis as the title. Like products in a supermarket that tell you what they are so that you can be sure it won't be what you don't like.
I prefer to go in blind, the only thing a trailer should show me is the animation, designs and maybe some dynamics. I didn't even know the setting was sci-fi fantasy before but was positively surprised.
dreamworks has history with this. the second trailer for HTTYD2 basically sppoiled the whole movie, to the point that the creators asked people to not watch it
Just watched it and wow, went in expected something passable that I would turn off halfway through to go to bed. Instead I got one of the best animated movies in recent years and had to stick through to the end. I'm frankly furious that Disney didn't bother finishing this, I would have loved to see it in a cinema.
Guess I should count my blessings I got to see it at all, I suppose.
>I'm frankly furious that Disney didn't bother finishing this
Be glad they weren't the ones who finished it, you know they'd have meddled. That was probably why they canceled it in the end, they realized there was no way they could make it fit their brand.
imagine nimona in the disney parks. that was just straight up never going to happen.
>no face character duo of Ballister and Nimona sneaking around the park like they're not supposed to be there, with Bal trying his best to dissuade Nimona from destroying Disney property
What a shame.
it looks entertaining, but riz ahmed is a c**t and i refuse to watch anything with him in it
Know nothing about him what did he do?
MY SISTER!
he claimed that the reason muslims become terrorists is because they don't have enough representation on tv https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/mar/02/riz-ahmed-warns-lack-of-diversity-on-tv-will-drive-young-to-isis
which is pretty funny because the goatfrickers are overrepresented on bong tv
He shouldn't watch US stuff, muslims and other people from middle eastern countries are pretty common in series and movies from other countries. It's just the US that only knows white american, black americans and latino americans and nothing else. Maybe asian americans if it's LA shit. I genuinely don't remember ever seeing a Slav in a US cartoon either. At least not among the protags.
linka from captain planet?
zangief?
>celebrity says something moronic
wow stop the presses
my conservative Muslim father was flashed by the gay kiss scene and he went on a seethe mode, good times
God fricking dammit I watch an 1 hour already and I dare to say this is one of the best movies in this year. I didn't watch spiderverse 2 yet but this is definitely podium and in terms of original films it crush glimmer and elemental (literaly who?). I will watch spiderman in next week I hope it will be better. Also cat in boots from this year is good, still a Nimora is more independent project so sorry cat, I put a few points in reviewing Nimora. I just dont fricking believe how they change a 6/10 webcomic into kino
It has flaws, but goddamit I love Nimora and Ballister. Also untIl now (1h of watching) the gay romance was breddy gut to my suprise. Dont expect this same tones like from webcomic,, this is sth fresh
The adult guy/girl dynamic is literally the reason for why I even got interested in this and I wasn't disappointed. I know that Nimona is technically not a kid or teen, but she acts like a teen and looks like one so there is enough of a distance between some grown-up normal dude and a bratty ageless entity (female). There are too many girl, girl, girl dynamics in modern cartoons and they can only do it so often until it bores me and the few stories with male MCs have them being school boys. Which is fine by the way, but sometimes I just want an adult guy for once.
You might enjoy Spiderverse. From what I have seen so far people that enjoy Nimona also enjoy Spiderverse and often the cat movie as well.
just finished watching it and i was very surprised what a good movie it was
nimona a cute
>no breasts
Thank God for fanart
This b***h is really sudden on this movie. She appear and disappear into nothingness very fast. The thought of she appearing on my room while I´m jerking off creep me out:
>> Humm, playing by yourself, handsome? Want a visual stimulation?
>> ( Me ) Y-yes?
She turn into a big pink shark
>me 3 seconds later
Is it really that good or is this thread full of shills?
Why do you need others to tell you what to think? Just watch it you gay the first 20 minutes should be enough to tell you whether you enjoy it or not.
I liked it. Nothing phenomenal or anything but it was good enough to not make me look on the progress bar or take breaks.
The stylized animation is the best thing about it, the story is pretty meh
It's a shame the animation was wasted on this story
Nimona was friend of the matriarch of that civilization, it make her 1000+ yo
Daily reminder that Nimona could transform into Ballister's boyfriend any time and frick him without him ever learning it was her.
gonna check this out later today when i wake up
better not be trash or else
I was pretty nice. I did feel there was some cringe moments but cringe is subjective so I aint gonna not recommend it just because I personally didn't like some scenes. Mainly with Nimona, but I feel the fault lies more with the fact that almost every young female character in recent years is "Quirky, so-random aggressive girls" so it just feels annoying and overused., Doesn't ruin the movie and I am hesitant to blame the writers on this, especially since this is based on a graphic novel that has existed for years. I hate the homosexuals that desperately virtue signal and piss their pants whenever they think anyone might be trans or gay, but if a movie like this comes with gay dudes and whatever, with a alright story and writing without trying to hit you over the head with a message, I'll be perfectly fine with it.
I generally prefer seeing shit where it's not made into a big deal and I'm glad to see that they the gay relationship relevant in a sensible way within the story. That's all I fricking ask for whenever there's romance in a story, for it to be relevant to the story and characters in a meaningful way.
I'm getting really fricking sick of these AI generated posts
So if Ballister had legitimately been an anarchist murderer, Nimona would have helped him take over the kingdom in?
yes.
Ngl would dick her phat ass down until she is craving my wiener.
It's all well and good until she breaks out the literal gorilla grip pussy.
It'd be pretty uncomfortable because gorilla veganas are only about 3 inches deep
That’s fine, I can punch her in the back of the head until she changes back.
Bet your ass can't even order a happy meal correctly.
What the frick does that have to do with anything you absolute autist?
his joke is that you write like you are assertive, but in reality you will die friendless.
A bold claim by two homosexuals on a cartoon board. What’s next the sky is blue?
And you won’t?
el gato gordita
It's been over a day where is the mega
Shit that was a good movie. Frickin loved the aesthetic.
I love this ginger gobling like you wouldn't imagine.
Really good movie!!! I think it's better than Mitchell's vs the machines and I loved the environment and the mix of technology and traditional fairy tale/royalty
Awful lot of "best movie ever" and degenerate coom posts coming in. Almost as if Cinemaphilemblur and watch listers are the only ones that like this movie and are trying to astroturf it in an attempt to obfuscate the criticism toward it.
>trying to astroturf it
I mean the thread.
Is it worth watching?
It's a fun movie. The plot isn't very special, but I liked the two leads and their chemistry, the animation is really good, and I think the movie really fixed the issues that the Graphic Novel had.
>6 minuties in
>hella diverse cast
>protagonist and antagonist are openly homosexual
>white people are villains
based, seethe harder
I dropped it lol. It's trash.
>I dropped it
Get over it.
>Production company Annapurna Pictures
>Annapurna Pictures is an American independent media company founded by Megan Ellison
>Megan Ellison was born in Santa Clara County, California, the daughter of Oracle Corporation co-founder and chairman, multibillionaire Larry Ellison, and his ex-wife, Barbara Boothe Ellison. Her father is of israeli and Italian descent.
Can't help it.
Sex with Nimona!