>NO Frodo we cannot save Gandalf!
>even though the balrog is gone
>the orcs are gone
>the archers have all been taken out
>Let him fall we cannot help him off the ledge, it's over.
>NO Frodo we cannot save Gandalf! >even though the balrog is gone. >the orcs are gone
>Help me you Fools
wasn't the Balrog still hanging off his leg
He lassoed Gandalf down, yeah.
wrong, whip pulled him down but wasn't holding him
he was simply just hanging on the ledge
>wrong
Literally what I said, homosexual.
why did no one try to help him up?
See
All the orcs fled when they heard the balrog
literally right as Gandalf falls arrows are flying past Aragorn's head. The Orcs were all over the other side
Go back.
>>the archers have all been taken out
Wrong
They were being pelted with arrows
why didnt gandalf just used the eagles?
he realized his mistake and told them to fly at that very moment. fools didnt take the eagles and walked the whole way.
but then durin's bane would hunt the fellowship down from of the embarrassment so gandalf had to end him and himself
It happened in a matter of seconds homosexual. A lot of what you saw had slow motion in it like their reactions. Maybe if you had more than a singular brain cell you'd get that you fricking cretin. Tongue my anus you wiener sucking Zoomer pinhead
>Has enough time to calmly say Fly you fools
they were at least 50ft away by then
Are Hobbit's feet frostbite resistant? I get they are tough and they don't need shoes. But wouldn't they freeze or get frostbite trekking through the mountains? What about the non-hobbits? Did they have access to waterproof materials like gore-tex for their boots? I imagine they would be soaked and ruined after just a few hours in Caradhras
I'm wondering why Elves don't live in snowy areas. They can walk on snow and cold doesn't seem to bother them. It's a natural defense against invaders who all get bogged down in it. They should've at least had a cool outpost up on the mountain to help people passing through since Moria was closed down.
A lot of them froze to death in the Silmarillion so it only goes so far.
The most boring trilogy
>Hold on Gandalf, you just told us this ring has a mind of its own, and wields its influence over others to return to its Master.
>And now you are suggesting we form a posse to march the ring back to Mordor? To literally hand deliver the ring to Sauron?
>Sounds to me like you've been hanging around this ring too much. The black speech is not making your case any better.
>I say we encase the ring in a giant, solid block of molten lead - no shut up Gimli just let me finish - and then, then sail it out to the exact middle of the sea and drop it in! No power in all of Arda could ever retrieve it, not for countless ages at least. Who's with me?!
this wouldn't work. the ring would find a way to escape
this would work. the ring would be stuck at the bottom of the sea, encased in a giant block of metal, location unknown to anyone, and no possible way to retrieve it even if someone did know where it was.
it is a perfect plan. the council races have the means to execute it almost immediately with no risk to anyone involved.
it would not lmfao morons
the ring has power on its own, that's how it draws people to it
either the ring would wreak havoc on everyone involved in this asinine plan or it would just split open the lead on its own
also "leave it for some other dude" is out of character for the fellowship
the ring went undiscovered in a basically a creek for over 2500 years, and that was after everyone knew isildur had it and where it was lost.
imagine if it was dumped into the abyss. You can't reasonably say it wouldn't effectively get rid of it forever.
>effectively get rid of it forever.
there's your problem
it would return again, no matter what
it would be an evil action and I'd assume you're affected by a covetousness for the ring in suggesting such an asinine plan
it would be countless ages before anyone could possibly retrieve it. If they ever could! its stuck at the bottom of the sea encased in solid metal! It's not going anywhere
Whats sauron gonna do? Design a submersible, troll the bottom of the ocean (in darkness) hoping to find it? Let's say he did manage to find it. How's he gonna get it up?
It's the perfect plan. Buys them all the time in the world to get ready and Sauron is permanently handicapped.
Sauron was days away from destroying Gondor. He'd destroy Rohan easily soon after that. The Elves were running away. Sauron would have won if his ring had not been destroyed as soon as possible.
Yeah you're being affected by the ring
we're going to destroy it, Sauron, nothing you can do about it
Sauron was going to win without the Ring
He wanted it because he felt safer knowing he had it; he didn't need it to win
The only way for the Free Peoples to win was to destroy the Ring
Sauron's armies were invincible. You've got an extremely powerful angel (maia) with all of Mordor, Harad, Rhun, Umbar, Dol Guldur, Gundabad, and other areas under his control, and armies issuing from each. The army at the Pelennor Fields was his expeditionary force. The ring was made in the Second Age when he had to deal with powerful kingdoms, not Gondor in decline. He would have won without the ring. They needed to destroy it.
They would have lost if they didn't destroy the ring.
elves and men defeated sauron when he had the ring, and had physical form, i.e., he was more powerful.
Middle Earth had fallen significantly in power and magic since then. It's now the age of men or something, and Sauron would've REKT their shit.
Yeah, but elves are a spent force now, it's only humans, largely without its gigachad lineage
He had physical form in LOTR. Hackson made him the moronic disembodied flaming eye.
how are they going to sail a giant, solid block of molten lead out to the middle of the sea? what power in Arda would be able to do that?
a big boat.
surely you understand how buoyancy works. large wooden ships carried tons of gold, cannons, etc...
moving the giant block of lead would be child's play for elves, but once you sink it, it is basically immovable
H-have you never seen a boat? How do you know about lord of the rings and the internet but have never seen a boat.
OK sop they don't, they make it a big lead ball and just roll it off the beach. Let the tides roll it forever around the seabeds of Arda, its location eternally a mystery.
>solid block of molten lead
>mermaids find the ring
>mermaid gets corrupted
Now what?
there are no merfolk
In a world of magic and limitless possibility there are no underwater spirits or creatures with intelligence?
all of the sentient races are set out in the canon, friend. name them, if they exist.
The ring surviving would mean Sauron would keep coming back and would still be able to rebuild his armies over and over.
Tossing the ring in mount doom was a desperation play because it was an all or nothing situation.
these threads are gay. so many revisionist threads that seem funny but then you watch the movie and its all perfectly explained and feels natural. then you realize its a 50/50 chance you were either reading autist ramblings or some homosexual who thought he was funny and either way its lame.
>the orcs are gone
>the archers have all been taken out
They weren't. You can see the orcs shooting arrows at Aragorn shortly before they leave.
Eru Ilúvatar hardened Boromir's heart
The archers weren't all taken out though. They're still shooting at Aragorn as he runs
the balrog wasnt gone u moron, even in the movies he whipped Gandalf's leg and pulled him down to the final battle. The final battle that went on for however frickin long
>>the orcs are gone
Did you even watch the movie? They were being chase by the orcs and goblins and even when they made it out, they knew the Uruk-Hai would be at their location by nightfall. Aragorn literally even says this when he doesn't permit the hobbits to mourn "For Pity's Sake!"
Boromir said "for Pete's sake".
Boromir was robbin Peter to pay Paul
He was just Boromir. He's gonna pay him back.
The Balrog could just let gandalf fall and fly back up and snatch the ring for itself. Gandalf had to fall with it in order to keep it tied up so the others could have a chance to escape.
the wings are for show. hes too large to fly.