The healer wasted the resurrection spell on himself. It was on a cooldown.
>gandalf fricking cast healing >no lol we dont need it >for pete's sake, aragorn is a fighter, he's barely specced into herb medicine >lol fly you homosexuals
no he's the MC with special abilities beyond regular think bhaal spawn, as the last true king he had super healing powers along with regular warrior/ranger skills. Paladin/Warrior/Ranger would be the closest mulitclass
yes you can, but that anon is still a tard, Boromir had points in both heavy and light but as they were on a quest he chose to wear light, fricking stupid ranging over mountains and plains with heavy
He respecced after the Balrog. moron actually thought he was gonna tank it so after everyone made fun of him for being at the bottom of the DPS meter he went furyprot.
Healers are a meme.
The game has healing items but because there's a number next to them you get afraid that you'll run out so you never use them.
More damage output = less damage taken. Use your fricking potions.
Using your potions takes time that you could be using to continue dealing damage. The healer's job isn't to keep you alive, it's to make sure you can keep doing your job without having to worry about any other shit.
With only so many party slots you're losing damage by having the healer in the first place.
And since undead are just as weak to fire as they are to light, it doesn't fricking matter.
>undead are just as weak to fire as they are to light
Depends entirely on the game. I bet this is the fricking moron who thinks >More damage output = less damage taken
The healers job is to heal. I can't tell you how many times I was tanking and wound up dying because the dipshit healer was too busy trying to dps instead of fricking healing me.
that's how wow is generally designed for a while now.
fights are a dps race (assuming your raiders can do all the jump puzzles and shit)-- can your raid do enough dmg before your healers run out of mana healing the tanks and unavoidable raid damage (and occasional mess up). either that or an enrage timer
>deliberately roll a healing class and then refuse to heal because muh dps spec
GET TO THE FRICKING BACK OF THE GROUP WHERE YOU BELONG AND HEAL, YOU FRICKING moron. I CAN'T HEAL MYSELF AND YOU WASTE ALL YOUR FRICKING MANA APPLYING YOUR PUSSY ASS DOTS AND WANDING THE ENEMIES WHILE I FRICKING DIE TRYING TO KEEP AGGRO BECAUSE THAT'S MY FRICKING JOB. DO YOUR JOB, YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
No. The hobbits good nature means they have buffs against being corrupted by the ring and Frodo's friends being with keeps him emotionally grounded so he doesn't gollum out on everyone
the exact number doesn't matter as long as it's below 20. The elves Glorfindel, Elladan and Elrohir definitely have to come with the Fellowship. If time permits, perhaps they can even wait for some of Aragorn's rangers to come to Rivendel (those guys are fast so it shouldn't take more than a few days). Both the elves and rangers are very sneaky so they should still be able to keep the whole mission a secret.
Sauron had his Palantir filter set to groups of >= 10 members
Elrond knew this
that would make sense, but in the book Elrond just picks 9 because there are 9 ringwraiths so he needs 9 people in the Fellowship to fight them.
> 2 Warriors, one an all-rounder, the other a STR and DEF build. > 1 Dwarf with high ATK > 1 Ranged fighter with high DEX > 1 Wizard with high MP and INT > Four useless mascot character with shit stats.
Probably right on Sam. Gandalf is always in a bit of a weird spot because he could fit into a lot of classes (cleric, paladin, sorcerer or bard), but I know for sure he is not a wizard since he does not even have a spellbook!
bullshit, unless you're running some homosexual healing potions are plentiful setting, in which case, frick you and your druids polymorphing into unnatural owlbears instead of natural bears
Clerics in current D&D are better at damage and crowd control than healing. Stop wasting your spells to heal me for 7 health, we're getting a rest soon. Wait until I get knocked out then heal me. I hate 5e
>I hate 5e
go back to 3.5 rules with an original red module vibe: no bards, no druids, no sorcerers, just the 4 core classes. low levels low power high plot high setting.
Yes I'm digging it, but i like thieves/rogues and elves being fighter/magic-user class is gay. Thats why I said original redbook vibes with restricted 3.5 ruleset.
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what he meant to say was >i refuse to play a game with no active defense, with hitpoint bloat and armor and evasiveness molted into a single defensive number
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Yes I'm digging it, but i like thieves/rogues and elves being fighter/magic-user class is gay. Thats why I said original redbook vibes with restricted 3.5 ruleset.
you're only useless if the other party members themselves are optimized butthole. if everyone is on the same power level it's easy to tailor fun encounters for everyone
3e, 3.5, 4e, pf1 and 5e didn't need dedicated healers
3, 3.5 and pf1 because the classes that can heal are typically so broken that healing is just way weaker than buff stacking or summon spamming
4e because healing was limited to number of healing surges and everyone could burn them
5e because short rests and how badly tuned healing spells are
>hurr hurr our fellowship should only have 9 people to match the 9 nazgul for some reason, even if 4 of the 9 people are midgets who can't fight for shit >no don't take my super elvish warrior with you. We don't need warriors we need emotional support midgets for Frodo.
the whole roster is moronic. I get that it should be a small party to stay secret but Elrond should have sent Pippin and Merry home and sent several of his elven warriors with them instead. As it stands, the whole fellowship got broken up not even halfway through, and the whole quest got derailed to rescue the two useless midgets.
>useless
Merry allied the Trents that overthrew Isengard and pippin lured Sauron away to minas tirith. And I don’t recall which of the hobbits found the barrow weapons but merry pretty much made the witch king killable and did 90% of the damage
Anyone else hate how Tolkien killed off Boromir because he had to be "redeemed" for being tempted?
If I was Boromir, I would've killed the fellowship in their sleep and taken the ring so I could save middle-earth. >but you'll get corrupted
No I won't lol, I'll just resist Sauron. Only a cuck thinks that they'll be weak to temptation.
>main character of a netflix series
Holy frick, I'm glad someone is noticing this. It had to be zoomers you were playing with. Avoid DnD and just get into Warhammer or another ttrpg instead.
I can smell you through my monitor. Go read up some epic 40k lore or pay GW $100 for a box of unassembled unpainted toy soldiers barely higher in quality than what you can buy in a bag at the dollar store
I tried to get into it a few years back and everyone I played with was some wannabe drama theater kid who all had the worst types of donut steel characters imaginable.
No idea why but they all seemed to be more interested in being the main character of a netflix series rather than a hero in a fantasy novel.
>main character of a netflix series
Holy frick, I'm glad someone is noticing this. It had to be zoomers you were playing with. Avoid DnD and just get into Warhammer or another ttrpg instead.
The healer wasted the resurrection spell on himself. It was on a cooldown.
Gandalf clearly did a graveyard run and respecced his character at the trainer.
Aragorn has herbal healing skills.
>gandalf fricking cast healing
>no lol we dont need it
>for pete's sake, aragorn is a fighter, he's barely specced into herb medicine
>lol fly you homosexuals
Aragorn is LITERALLY a ranger.
>OP doesn't know that the hands of the king are the hands of a healer
So Aragorn was actually a Paladin instead of a Ranger all along?
no he's the MC with special abilities beyond regular think bhaal spawn, as the last true king he had super healing powers along with regular warrior/ranger skills. Paladin/Warrior/Ranger would be the closest mulitclass
who was the tank? out DD'ing everyone else the way?
Boromir. But he specced into light armor
fricking pathfinder builds
you can't spec into armor, moron
yes you can, but that anon is still a tard, Boromir had points in both heavy and light but as they were on a quest he chose to wear light, fricking stupid ranging over mountains and plains with heavy
He respecced after the Balrog. moron actually thought he was gonna tank it so after everyone made fun of him for being at the bottom of the DPS meter he went furyprot.
Gimli but he didnt invest enough in aggro
>shield
>aoe taunt horn ability
Boromir obviously
Healers are a meme.
The game has healing items but because there's a number next to them you get afraid that you'll run out so you never use them.
More damage output = less damage taken. Use your fricking potions.
>Healers are a meme.
Yes. Its just a sign of bad game design. Just give your players the means to survive encounters or just use a knock-out system.
Using your potions takes time that you could be using to continue dealing damage. The healer's job isn't to keep you alive, it's to make sure you can keep doing your job without having to worry about any other shit.
With only so many party slots you're losing damage by having the healer in the first place.
And since undead are just as weak to fire as they are to light, it doesn't fricking matter.
>undead are just as weak to fire as they are to light
Depends entirely on the game. I bet this is the fricking moron who thinks
>More damage output = less damage taken
LotR is more akin to a modern D&D type setting, rather than a trinity-style mmo
you know there's Middle Earth Role Playing System, right? and what grew from it, Rolemaster.
>healing in combat
>ever
Learn to play scrub
The healers job is to heal. I can't tell you how many times I was tanking and wound up dying because the dipshit healer was too busy trying to dps instead of fricking healing me.
I'd rather have most classes have some form of healing with one main support class who does all the best buffs, debuffs, and dots.
>I'd rather have most classes have some form of healing
the problem with modern mmo gaming
>More damage output = less damage taken
This isn't even remotely how it works.
that's how wow is generally designed for a while now.
fights are a dps race (assuming your raiders can do all the jump puzzles and shit)-- can your raid do enough dmg before your healers run out of mana healing the tanks and unavoidable raid damage (and occasional mess up). either that or an enrage timer
I didn't say speak to me.
too bad
Tell that to Bungie devs. 6.5 years and counting of Warlock wells being mandatory in anything past the basic strike playlist.
>deliberately roll a healing class and then refuse to heal because muh dps spec
GET TO THE FRICKING BACK OF THE GROUP WHERE YOU BELONG AND HEAL, YOU FRICKING moron. I CAN'T HEAL MYSELF AND YOU WASTE ALL YOUR FRICKING MANA APPLYING YOUR PUSSY ASS DOTS AND WANDING THE ENEMIES WHILE I FRICKING DIE TRYING TO KEEP AGGRO BECAUSE THAT'S MY FRICKING JOB. DO YOUR JOB, YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
looking back on this, the hobbits being there at all was fricking moronic
No. The hobbits good nature means they have buffs against being corrupted by the ring and Frodo's friends being with keeps him emotionally grounded so he doesn't gollum out on everyone
the hobbits' inclusion alone isn't moronic. What's moronic is that Elrond imposes a limit of 9 members for the fellowship for some moronic bullshit.
What would have been your roster and limit then?
the exact number doesn't matter as long as it's below 20. The elves Glorfindel, Elladan and Elrohir definitely have to come with the Fellowship. If time permits, perhaps they can even wait for some of Aragorn's rangers to come to Rivendel (those guys are fast so it shouldn't take more than a few days). Both the elves and rangers are very sneaky so they should still be able to keep the whole mission a secret.
that would make sense, but in the book Elrond just picks 9 because there are 9 ringwraiths so he needs 9 people in the Fellowship to fight them.
Sauron had his Palantir filter set to groups of >= 10 members
Elrond knew this
it worked to provide decoy ringbearers even if it was unintentional. The orcs knew a hobbit had the ring but not which one.
It was supposed to be a stealth run.
> 2 Warriors, one an all-rounder, the other a STR and DEF build.
> 1 Dwarf with high ATK
> 1 Ranged fighter with high DEX
> 1 Wizard with high MP and INT
> Four useless mascot character with shit stats.
>all party besides the hobbits gets owned by a little tiny object
>Four useless mascot character with shit stats.
rogues you dunce
>four useless mascots
rogues and thieves, dude. that's even Bilbo's official role in the party in the Hobbit
>mascots
Rogues/thieves mix, all four have passive magic resistance. Pretty handy when you are carrying an evil magic ring in the party.
>Aragorn
Ranger
>Gimli
Fighter
>Boromir
Fighter
>Legolas
Fighter
>Gandalf
Cleric
>Frodo
Rogue
>Sam
Rogue
>Merry
Rogue
>Pippin
Bard
I feel like Samwise would be Fighter/Thief.
Gandalf would be a Wizard but it's heavily homebrewed by the DM
Probably right on Sam. Gandalf is always in a bit of a weird spot because he could fit into a lot of classes (cleric, paladin, sorcerer or bard), but I know for sure he is not a wizard since he does not even have a spellbook!
> I need 752,089 EXP to level up.
Why else do you think he /quitparty after aggroing the balrog?
>kill 1 balrog
>get 6,000,000 EXP points
They were healed in town areas.
>someone answers
>is ignored
every time
>this is your brain on D&D
D&D hasn't been designed around a dedicated healer in ages, arguably ever
bullshit, unless you're running some homosexual healing potions are plentiful setting, in which case, frick you and your druids polymorphing into unnatural owlbears instead of natural bears
>what is a cleric
this is your brain on D&D
Clerics in current D&D are better at damage and crowd control than healing. Stop wasting your spells to heal me for 7 health, we're getting a rest soon. Wait until I get knocked out then heal me. I hate 5e
>I hate 5e
go back to 3.5 rules with an original red module vibe: no bards, no druids, no sorcerers, just the 4 core classes. low levels low power high plot high setting.
>3.5 rules
We have to go further
Yes I'm digging it, but i like thieves/rogues and elves being fighter/magic-user class is gay. Thats why I said original redbook vibes with restricted 3.5 ruleset.
Thank god it's not 2e
I refuse to play a game with thac0
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>i refuse to play a game with no active defense, with hitpoint bloat and armor and evasiveness molted into a single defensive number
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>3.5
>low power
>CoDzilla
Frick off CRitter
Clerics sure as hell aren't healers in 5e. They're the best multipurpose class and tend to be most effective way up front with Spirit Guardians on.
Healing Word is the only healing spell they'll ever need.
>be most effective
more optimization cancer. frick off.
>wanting to not be useless is 'optimization'
literally git gud homosexual
you're only useless if the other party members themselves are optimized butthole. if everyone is on the same power level it's easy to tailor fun encounters for everyone
>what is a cleric
Tank/blaster, depending on the particular system.
>gamist terminology
into the trash it goes
3e, 3.5, 4e, pf1 and 5e didn't need dedicated healers
3, 3.5 and pf1 because the classes that can heal are typically so broken that healing is just way weaker than buff stacking or summon spamming
4e because healing was limited to number of healing surges and everyone could burn them
5e because short rests and how badly tuned healing spells are
>buff stacking or summon spamming
tell me why i would want to play with you or any other optimizationgay
because I don't play cleric, druid, archivist or pick metamagic feats and only play at tables that limit splatbooks
The Hobbit is worse, it's just a Rogue and 13 Fighters.
>hurr hurr our fellowship should only have 9 people to match the 9 nazgul for some reason, even if 4 of the 9 people are midgets who can't fight for shit
>no don't take my super elvish warrior with you. We don't need warriors we need emotional support midgets for Frodo.
the whole roster is moronic. I get that it should be a small party to stay secret but Elrond should have sent Pippin and Merry home and sent several of his elven warriors with them instead. As it stands, the whole fellowship got broken up not even halfway through, and the whole quest got derailed to rescue the two useless midgets.
>useless
Merry allied the Trents that overthrew Isengard and pippin lured Sauron away to minas tirith. And I don’t recall which of the hobbits found the barrow weapons but merry pretty much made the witch king killable and did 90% of the damage
both of which occur through complete happenstance (and severe mental moronation from Pippin) that no one could have predicted.
Elrond was a super clairvoyant. He fricking knew.
It was a stealth mission you nonce, and Glorfindel was shining like a walking sun to the bad guys.
Elrond literally wanted Glorfindel to join you midwit. Gandalf overrode him because of some gay shit about the power of friendship.
Too bad Radagast was going ham with the peanut butter
4E ruined D&D and its only gotten worse.
and nothing of value was lost
Healer not needed when the DM (Eru Illuvatar) has already guaranteed your victory.
except for poor Boromir
he had to go home early so the DM killed him
It was due to suffering main character syndrome.
having a healer is for fricking homosexuals, tolkien knew real parties just carry healing potions and say 'frick it'
Samwise was a paladin you moron
Aragorn was a healer Black person
Not just any healer, THE healer. Royal healing powers and shit, literally his primary class.
>healing
you did not beat the journey
>No healer
The Elves are known for their healing skills, therefore Legolas was OP.
They visit healers on the way.
Elrond heals Frodo from his Nazgul wound, Galadriel heals Gandalf after he fights the Balrog
"The hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so shall the rightful king be known."
merry and pippin are actually bards
Sam has bandages.
Why are magic users such raging homosexuals?
aragorn
GET A UBRS GOING
Why did their super powerful wizard use a sword 99% of the time?
Cause he thought it looked cooler
Gandalf is more of a paladin/wizard hybrid, hes not slinging fireballs but making light and curing curses
The DMPC doesn't have to explain how his powers work.
Gandalf is a cleric, not a wizard.
>A Cleric is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to.
How could I forget that iconic quote
GROND!
GROND
GROND
GROND
GROND
>Wizard who put all points into wisdom
Anyone else hate how Tolkien killed off Boromir because he had to be "redeemed" for being tempted?
If I was Boromir, I would've killed the fellowship in their sleep and taken the ring so I could save middle-earth.
>but you'll get corrupted
No I won't lol, I'll just resist Sauron. Only a cuck thinks that they'll be weak to temptation.
god I hate D&Dgays so much
they've been consistently voted as the worst community over on /tg/
I can smell you through my monitor. Go read up some epic 40k lore or pay GW $100 for a box of unassembled unpainted toy soldiers barely higher in quality than what you can buy in a bag at the dollar store
nah i did that in my youth when gw was still affordable
I tried to get into it a few years back and everyone I played with was some wannabe drama theater kid who all had the worst types of donut steel characters imaginable.
No idea why but they all seemed to be more interested in being the main character of a netflix series rather than a hero in a fantasy novel.
>main character of a netflix series
Holy frick, I'm glad someone is noticing this. It had to be zoomers you were playing with. Avoid DnD and just get into Warhammer or another ttrpg instead.
Nonono drop these altogether and it might not be too late for you to have sex
Gandalf is a based blaster cleric and will never ever prepare any healing spells, learn to deal with it.
D&D is pretty fun when playing with friends.
Can a loregay explain to me why Sauron was more powerful, even in his weakest state, than all of the other Maiar combined?
he wasn't until he made the ring
>That one guy who ignores the DM and gets drunk, both in the game and at the table
Rolling a d20 to berry my dick in goldberry
1 Mage, 1 Ranger, 2 warriors, 1 tank, 4 rogues.
aragorn fricked the healer instead of recruiting her. shit stats perception and persuasion
but Aragorn has very high perception and persuasion