>no side windows. >no shields. >loud as frick

>no side windows
>no shields
>loud as frick
was the empire trying to lose?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >was the empire trying to lose
    They were trying to win against the Vong invasion and TIE fighters were well-engineered to counter their organic technology.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In how many threads are you gonna post about the fricking Vongs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all of them because it's the canon answer op asked for

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's not the canon answer

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they also used them in the galactic civil war you tard

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now THIS is glup shitto posting

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        glup schizo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EU was always (99%) trash.
      Vong invasion implies the Emperor was the good guy (or at least an anti-hero) since he foresaw this happening and prepared for it. That completely destroys the narrative balance of what Star Wars is about. It literally destroys the plot and morals of Star Wars which is why it’s actually a timeless masterpiece to begin with.

      Vong are fricking horrible, just horrible.

      Still 999 centillion times better than the sequels.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Still 999 centillion times better than the sequels.
        and that's the most hilariously sad thing about it all

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol yup.
          Vong is just a stupid idea, it isn’t an evil idea.
          Sequel trilogy is purposely evil, they made purposely evil decisions to demoralize the audience and corrupt the moral foundation of our contemporary myths.

          EU was just dumb junk food and never claimed to be anything other than that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the plot and morals of Star Wars which is why it’s actually a timeless masterpiece to begin with.
        lmao
        >LE EMPIRE IS LE EVIL BECAUSE... JUST BECAUSE!!
        >STORMTROOPERS ARE BAD BECAUSE THEY SCARY SKULL SOLDIERS!!
        >WE LE REBELS!! WE REBELION!!
        It's a literal kid's movie

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That isn’t what it’s about.
          Star Wars is ultimately a coming of age tale about redemption, it’s quite biblical.
          Star Wars is for kids, it’s also for anyone. It’s a retelling of the foundational myths that have built the greatest civilizations this world has ever known.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it’s quite biblical.
            care to elaborate? unless you have some moronic take like emperor=satan

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The easiest thing to do is point you to Joseph Campbell.

              If you can’t see the biblical themes of forgiveness, redemption and salvation then you aren’t worldly enough to be commenting on whether something is “for kids” or not.

              You are focused on the backdrop. The entire beating heart of Star Wars lays within Luke’s personal journey which is a reflection of the audience.

              I could write you 50,000 words, and if this was a decade ago I would but I can’t be bothered to now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ah, i thought you meant old testament, not sure why

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Something tells me user bias.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                touche

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It’s a retelling of the foundational myths that have built the greatest civilizations this world has ever known.

            lolno

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would he not prepare for it? What's the point of being emperor if you don't sustain your empire? Oh right he can't be any more complex than Le Ebil Man right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >EU was always (99%) trash.
        yes
        >Emperor was the good guy
        he was, old and new republics were completely useless and all they did was create anarchy. And jedi pupeteering civil goverment is unacceptable. Palpi did nothing wrong
        >morals of Star Wars
        lol, lmao even

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Palpatine wasn’t a good guy he was just pragmatic enough to realize that letting a bunch of genocidal aliens invade his galaxy would be bad news for running his empire.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's a bunch of ways Sheev could have prepared the galaxy for the Vong invasion that didn't require him to centralize all power within himself; he did that because he wanted to. All the Vong threat did was give him a time limit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy getting ripped apart by canon cucks. Frick you canon cucks, you decide to live in a miserable, no fun World and want everyone to be as frustrated as yourself

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EU was always (99%) trash.
      Vong invasion implies the Emperor was the good guy (or at least an anti-hero) since he foresaw this happening and prepared for it. That completely destroys the narrative balance of what Star Wars is about. It literally destroys the plot and morals of Star Wars which is why it’s actually a timeless masterpiece to begin with.

      Vong are fricking horrible, just horrible.

      Still 999 centillion times better than the sequels.

      Why would he not prepare for it? What's the point of being emperor if you don't sustain your empire? Oh right he can't be any more complex than Le Ebil Man right?

      >EU was always (99%) trash.
      yes
      >Emperor was the good guy
      he was, old and new republics were completely useless and all they did was create anarchy. And jedi pupeteering civil goverment is unacceptable. Palpi did nothing wrong
      >morals of Star Wars
      lol, lmao even

      the emperor wasn't preparing for the vong, that's a fan theory

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Vong are fan fiction so it doesn’t matter anyways. Only the original three movies are canon. Everything else is “what-if”.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn Black person, youre more pathetic with your canon bullshit than sequel gays and yidsney adults.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You should play up being a caricature even more to really sell it. israelites mass murder children btw.

            no, the vong are licensed fiction

            That’s a cute name for it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, the vong are licensed fiction

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was a girl who sat in front of me in physics and she use to always wear Vongs. I use to always jerk it to her whale tails.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were cheap

      I'm one of those tasteless freaks that actually likes the Yuuzhan Vong but you still a moron for bringing them up in this context.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EUtroons are embarrassing.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're cheap and easy to make.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lel

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >loud as frick
    >in space

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >loud
      >in space

      you idiots realize that they can also fly in a planet's atmosphere, right?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Radar
    Relies on being very maneuverable
    Kino fear instiller

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Low unit cost = they can zerg the enemy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Low unit cost and zerg rush doesn't really work when you have limited capacity to store them and they explode in one hit.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno man, that ERRRRRAAWWWWWW sound is pretty sick

    • 4 weeks ago
      ur pal :3

      That's why we designed them to make that noise, we could have made them indestructible with shields like the falcon but we wanted to give the x-wings something to shoot.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tarkin, and the Tarkin doctrine, was moronic
    the concept of "we need lots of shit thats ineffective but scary" works on paper (its why the TIE sounds like that) but as soon as someone doesnt fear you, you go from scary looking and ineffective shit to just ineffective shit
    the empire used the V-wing for a year or two, which had side windows

    plus tarkin was forcefully inserting himself into every other project and either shutting them down/redirecting resources because he wanted the death star done, or he was inserting hinself so he could take command and full credit for it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Say one more bad thing about Tarkin and I’ll fricking kick your balls up to your throat.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tells tarkin to frick off

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Foul stench

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tarkin was ineffective and hard carried by other more competent officers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are not ineffective though, they might be subpar but they still get the job done, police carry handguns instead of submachine guns for the everyday patrol despite them being inferior in every way, they still work though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the concept of "we need lots of shit thats ineffective but scary" works on paper
      That was the Soviet doctrine, and it produced a lot of shit-tier, but functional, kit. Everything from fighter aircraft, rifles, machine guns, and sub-machine guns and tanks. That doctrine CAN work, but the sweet spot is somewhere in the middle of "functional and cheap" and "over-engineered and expensive". That's what the U.S. used to be good at back in the day.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP, that's just cool design for a movie. It doesn't need to work in reality.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, I was definitely talking about reality when I mentioned shields

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's an ugly space ship

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >was the empire trying to lose?
    Yes, yes they were.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah and white armor isn’t good camo outside of a snow environment and the AT AT walkers would be really easy to topple and stormtrooper armor can’t stop shit and blah blah blah
    It’s space fantasy who cares

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is no "sideways" in space

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok but there is
      every battle they line up on a plane relative to one another

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there a sci-fi franchise where they have starships fighting with each other in random orientations as opposed to what you posted?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes? Every one that takes into account real physics instead of making "le WW2 naval battle but in space!"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They must be so good that nobody can even think of one.

            You know what looks great on camera? Tons of spaceships in various orientations in a sparse formation. Really easy to get in frame too.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Expanse

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chosen for the ease of filming. You could make up your own theory why this is, perhaps Star Wars navigational systems automatically determine a default orientation after exiting hyperspace which is why opposing forces wind up on the same plane.
        It wouldn’t be ridiculous to assume that there are default “safe” positions the galactic gps automatically calculates.

        In my opinion it matters little, it’s space fantasy and looks great on camera. Thats all that really matters.
        There are instances within the movies where this isn’t the case by the way, such as the executor crashing into DSII.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There are instances within the movies where this isn’t the case by the way, such as the executor crashing into DSII.
          it was on the same plane, then after the bridge got hit it listed to the side and went down, look at the guys behind it
          it sank like a ship into the death star

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DS2 definitely has its own gravitational pull, even if slight, it’s fricking huge. If the bridge is destroyed on the executor then it stands to reason it lost the ability to navigate in step with powering critical systems and was naturally pulled to the nearest celestial body.

            You can make shit up. It’s Star Wars, not NASA wars.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Top is cinematic and conveys a message.

            Bottom is substantially less impressive to look at.

            The bridge exploding could easily explain away why it fell like that. Maybe whateve repulsorlift lioe fictional technology malfunctioned after the bridge exploded and made it do that.
            Star Wars only need to make sense within the context of the world it established, it doesn’t need any realism outside of what is presented as realistic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bottom is stupid and incredibly idiotic. The only reason it crashed was because it lost control and couldn't turn on the engines, so the death star's gravity pulled it in. Gravity pulls directly downwards towards the mass.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there a sci-fi franchise where they have starships fighting with each other in random orientations as opposed to what you posted?

        Chosen for the ease of filming. You could make up your own theory why this is, perhaps Star Wars navigational systems automatically determine a default orientation after exiting hyperspace which is why opposing forces wind up on the same plane.
        It wouldn’t be ridiculous to assume that there are default “safe” positions the galactic gps automatically calculates.

        In my opinion it matters little, it’s space fantasy and looks great on camera. Thats all that really matters.
        There are instances within the movies where this isn’t the case by the way, such as the executor crashing into DSII.

        >There are instances within the movies where this isn’t the case by the way, such as the executor crashing into DSII.
        it was on the same plane, then after the bridge got hit it listed to the side and went down, look at the guys behind it
        it sank like a ship into the death star

        most depictions of space combat follow air combat rules (or perhaps submarine rules)
        it's a 3d space, but there is a definite up and down.
        yes it's for cinematic purposes.

        for me, I think "real" space combat wouldn't require 3d thinking. the distances involved will be larger than any fleet by orders of magnitude, so what you will have is two points fighting each other.
        sure, you could fly a few thousand meters "up" but you'll still be in range and sight of all their weapons.
        what will really be important is the mastery of orbital trajectories. computers will of course calculate all that shit for you, but you the human will need to come up with the plan first.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That sounds visually boring and math-intensive

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is when you film space

      >loud
      >in space

      >loud as frick
      There is no sound in space.

      the force transmits sound

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >loud
    >in space

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you have never watched star wars

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the troopers need those helmets to protect their ears in the hanger bay.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >*constipation noises*

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >loud as frick
    There is no sound in space.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then how did they capture its sound when filming the space parts of the movies, moron?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people think these fighters are bad just because they don’t have shields out the ass and unnecessary extra laser cannons? They’re interceptors, they’re not meant to fulfill multiple roles like the X-Wing they’re there to frick up the enemy’s fighters so the capital ships can do the heavy work, and they do that job well since they’re cheap so there’s hundreds of them compared to the tens the Rebels can field on top of being fast and maneuverable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why do people think these fighters are bad just because they don’t have shields out the ass and unnecessary extra laser cannons?
      because they are the reason the death star blew up

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Death Star blew up because it had a “blow up Death Star” hole. Rebel alliance was getting annihilated until Luke had to literally become one with the divine and make an impossible shot.
        Remember there were multiple scenes of X-Wings getting trashed by turbo lasers and Tie Fighters.

        RIP Porkins.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only bit of soul in the entire sequel trilogy is when Llewyn Davis hijacks the Thai-fighter and is thrilled by its tremendous acceleration as he flies it out the hangar bay, saying "WEOOO THIS THING REALLY MOVES!"

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man I hate to admit it but OG Star Wars really did have really cool design ideas. Almost a shame what happened to it, unavoidable as it may be.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is much faster and handles much better than the junk heaps the opposition flies
    If I’m in an F-15 Tomcat and my opponents are flying Mitsubishi Zeros I’m going to feel pretty fricking invulnerable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s not an apt comparison.

      TIEs vs X-Wings is like 300 well trained soldiers with Sten guns vs 50 adequate soldiers with Sturmgewehrs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah and if you're trying to defend against a naval air raid where you and 5 buddies need to prevent 100 Zeros from sinking your carrier then you're going to be hard-pressed to stop all of them.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >loud
    >in space

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in my headcanon palpatine just fricked off after taking over the republic and let his corrupt goonies do whatever they want which led to ridiculously ineffective projects. it's kinda ironic because the republic fell for similar reasons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think that is canon based on the new Thrawn novels; Thrawn works pretty closely with ISB spooks to crack down on corruption and factionalism

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flying TIEs is great. Flying Y-Wings is a pain in the dick since they're slow as frick and you can't see shit out of their wienerpits.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering they were meant to be deployed from a carrier in squadrons of 20-30,their logistical shortcomings are irreelevant.

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