I'm 22 years old and my dad makes fun of me for being a virgin. He calls me "Virgy" in front of my friends and women, it's so fricking annoying. I can't even blame him for doing a shitty job raising me because my younger brother is a Chad and listened to my parents while I just played FFXIV for the past 6 years.
>That's honestly horrible. That's unironically a very shitty thing for your dad to do IMO.
That's how they did in the past. Apparently it worked. Then sexual revolution happened and everyone is left out in the jungle
I don't understand why people do that. To be fair, I don't have life experience with this sort of thing but I've never seriously considered paying for a prostitute, even to get "mechanical" experience. Like, why.
>I've never seriously considered paying for a prostitute, even to get "mechanical" experience. Like, why.
Except for the moral shit, I feel like it would feel even more weird and frustrating than approaching a real girl. That's why virgins are all mentalcels, a n ugly guy really wanting to frick would go to a prostitute, while some autist fricked in the head like me wouldn't. If not forced by someone. And here we are, anon's dad was just pushing him into it, knowing he's a fricked up mentalcel. Nobody pushed me and I'm Merlin now
5 months ago
Anonymous
I feel very fortunate that my parents never pressured me on the girlfriend subject, and have never voiced an expectation for grandchildren. That suits me fine. If they're disappointed, they do a good job of hiding it around me. I think they're just happy that I live independently in my own place. If others are being polite becuause "they know", then that suits me fine too.
The only person who ever expressed any serious interest in whether I had a girlfriend was grandma, the few times that she asked before her steep decline into dementia when I was a teenager.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>boomers don't give a frick >only caring one was granny before dementia
If you only knew how bad things really are...
Nearly identical experience. My first time I was too nervous to focus, my brain was going a mile a minute thinking about every other kind of random shit other than the sex I was having. Plus I was used to death grip no lotion fapping, so condom sex didn't feel as good as I'd hoped. I didn't really enjoy sex until I got a gf at age 19, and after we broke up I didn't really enjoy any of my hookups until I was like 24. I think I just had to age out of some sexual guilt and worries about not being good in bed.
Why? Chaste, non-blob church girls are gone by like 23. What are you saving your virginity for at that point - for hamplanets and "reformed" single moms?
they are in terms of marriage building, equally important to be on the same page and theres no reason to leave either to chance by just waiting and hoping it will work out.
Man, all these posts about sex are becoming a real blackpill. Sex really seems to have a tight grip on most people. I also find funny how people try to justify their promiscuity on some type of "evolutionary imperative", as if the fact that they are doing it without the purpose of reproduction doesn't contrict the alleged "natural" explanation to their way of acting.
Just be honest and say that you've sex because you enjoy it, instead of pretending to follow some "evolutionary imperative" that, for whatever reason, decides to leave out the only biological purpose of sex.
Your body has no way of knowing whether you are having sex for reproduction or not, it just wants you to have sex. That's like saying the fact people eat food for pleasure sometimes means eating isn't a biological imperative. Why do you think sex feels good in the first place?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Your body has no way of knowing whether you are having sex for reproduction or not
What about masturbation then? How your body knows the difference? It's not your body, but your mind. Your body only needs to release semen sometimes, if you don't act on it it eill happen in your sleep. But your mind knows if you're a looser virgin and knows if you're a soulless sex addict fricking every hole. Neither are good for mental health.
>Sex really seems to have a tight grip on most people.
Have you ever actually had sex? It's terrible, they want to stick around afterwards and cuddle and the bed is too hot and also sweaty and the combined body heat is too much and the bed gets overheated and they sort of think they're you're friend now but they're not your friend. The second after you cum I'm just disgusted by them anyways but they don't want to be alone because they're needy or some other stupid made up feeling so I have to take them out for some breakfast and buy them a fricking omelet that we both know she's not going to finish and then when its over you have to get her number and promise you'll call her but we both know you're not going to call her. Why would you? You already got what you wanted out of her and the sex was mediocre at best and you wasted one of the two days a week you have free of being a wagecuck, you took your valuable free time and you fricking wasted it on some average broad when you could have paid for a hooker and had her get up and leave so I could go back to playing video games.
the vast majority of marriages held because women had no chance to build a life of their own up until a few decades ago. if being miserable with your husband or starving in the streets are your options, then the choice is simple
Because of shotgun marriages, and a blind eye to prostitution and mistresses.
>Why?
Fornication is disordered. It is perverted sexual pleasure sough for itself and removed from the unitive and procreative purposes of sex.
How's that Catholicism working out with the extremely high rates of bastardry and single motherhood in Catholic countries? Liberal protestantism seems to be more stable in practice.
not that anon but the infiltration of the church by masons has caused that not the rules themselves. look up the stats on tlm go'ers and you'll see that they have no issue staying celibate until marriage
5 months ago
Anonymous
>the infiltration of the churches by masons
Coping moron. The priests are gays, the laity are browns that couldn't be monogamous if they tried, and Jesuit tricks are eternal.
The Catholic church has nobody to blame but itself for the state it's in.
>muh TLM, muh tradcath
homie, you're a Protestant.
>How's that Catholicism working out with the extremely high rates of bastardry and single motherhood in Catholic countries?
It's not really a Catholic problem, but a Black person and Hispanic problem. Non-whites except for a some east Asians have low impulse control.
I'm that age now and I'm thinking about doing the same thing. Didn't expect to get a confidence boost from it, though. What made it change for you? Did they compliment you or something?
I did get a boost no lie. I think it was just feeling like everyone else. For a long time I was just a weirdo. "Why can't I get laid?" Having a weird fear of women. I had no women in my phonebook, sans my mom lol. No female friends or even female coworkers. I told the first girl I was a virgin and she didn't make fun of me or anything.
But once I had sex at least I felt somewhat normal. I'm in a relationship now and I met her at work. But would I have if I'd never had sex with those chicks? I don't think so.
I was 16 when I fingered a girl for the first time and did it a couple of other times, but I properly had sex (benis in vagin) only when I was 23 because, due to jerking off about 4 - 5 times a day to porn since I was 1, so I couldn't get it up in real life (+ nerves of thinking it's too small and she will laugh (in comparison to the big wieners in porn))
Two weeks without cooming? Because otherwise this is moronic even by normie standards... normal people goes months without having sex. Of course this shit is written by hollyjews habing orgies with prime wannabe actresses so...
This woman is the definition of a 5/10 and started going bonkers after eight months of choosing not to have sex. Meanwhile almost 30% of guys in the 18-29 y/o range aren't ever getting laid and more than half are single.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>5/10
You're too generous, she looks like Phyllis from the office
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's amazing how easy women have it in terms of dating. The result is they all think they have amazing personalities, great looks, and interesting lives when really it's just their vegana that gives them game. Then they see struggling guys and think that the solution is for the guys to "develop" intersting personalities like them. They don't get that pictures of their lunch or vacation in The Bahamas aren't the reason guys want to bang them.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think women are just less likely to be autistic than men. Simply that. This is the final redpill
5 months ago
Anonymous
i think they're more autistic but they're better at hiding it in everyday life
5 months ago
Anonymous
Fair enough, but our curse is mental, despite incel will tell you otherwise. If you're a virgin ask yourself why you don't want to visit a prostitute and you'll find the source of the problem.
I'm 22 and still a virgin. Even though I'm here, I'm actually far from being socially inept in the slightest. I'm neither unattractive, and I've had girls show an interest towards me (sometimes in a rather brazen manner). I simply don't care, and never cared. Not even as a teenager, much less as an adult. Nobody I know in real life bothers me due to it—it's usually just Internet randoms who get all pissy because I'm not falling into despair due to being a virgin. Nobody treats me different for being a virgin; some people had actually reacted surprised to the fact that I am.
16 and she was 38.
Thank you Eminem, you are a fricking Saint for platforming white trash trailer park kids into being desirable because I started slaying in the late 90s
19 here. coulda been earlier but lacked any sort of confidence when it came to women. first time was with my gf who was a few years younger than me and supposedly a virgin as well. for some reason i couldn't get a boner when we were about to frick even though we did everything else up to that point. went in bathroom and tried to get myself hard but couldn't. came back out and eventually cried about how much i loved her or some gay shit. we eventually would frick a lot but i got bored of her.
I was 24, she immediately realized that it was my first time and that I had no idea what I was doing and she started laughing at me.
But later she was cool and all and we talked about it later, and I had to lie about the reason I was so late.
I told her that I was sexually abused when I was little and I always felt awkard with other people, and then she started crying and started petting me like a pet.
I broke up with her soon after
Like 19, I too thought I was late as frick but looking back 19 ain't bad. I don't remember the chick's name, just that she was married, had a kid, and had the fattest ass of any girl I've smashed and was a contender for fattest ass I've seen. Frick man, I would do some dirty ass shit to a woman like that now but back then it was a quick pump and dump that was kind of awkward because it was with some chick I didn't know lol.
I remember calling my brother who never had trouble with girls to let him know I finally got some puss. The conversation went something like, him: ".... it isn't as great as they make it seem, huh?"
Me: ".... nah... not really." Lol
I mean, it's fun but not really what you expect. I finally understood why everyone claimed that getting head was better.
14, first kiss and first frick within an hour of each other. Holes was on in the background so her lesbian mom wouldn't hear us in the next room. I was bad and I remember not enjoying the smell kek
I lost mine at 27 to a girl I met via online dating. She had been with a couple guys before. After a few months she broke up with me to be with another guy. The relationship was pretty good while it lasted, but I see it as kind of a lucky fluke. That was about two years ago and I don't think I'm ever going to be in another relationship as long as I live. I know I've disappointed my older family members, all of whom are married with kids, as they expect their "handsome" grandson/nephew/son/cousin to get married like everyone else. It's basically impossible to explain how impossible women are and the whole subsequent incel thing to boomers, gen-xers and other normies.
Was pretty close to it at 17 with my first gf (she wanted it, I was too nervous to put on a condom, would lose my erection out of anxiety). We broke up before I could do it right, and it really fricked up my confidence for the next two years.
I finally lost it at 19 to my second gf. She was great. Made me feel comfortable. We took our time. We were ok for about a year. After that relationship ended, I was right back at my performance anxiety.
I am now on my 30s and I’m doing well, but oh boy, it was a struggle to finally feel comfortable with it for good.
My advice to anyone feeling like that is expose yourself to experiences as much as possible. Be honest about your insecurities. It really only gets easier with practice. And yes, it’s fricking worth it.
I blew my chance when I was a freshman in HS. I'm still a young man(20) but I know that I'm past my sexual prime and will have to settle for less as time goes on
This, sexual prime isn't like a 2 year thing in high school. No idea where this meme came from. I'e gotten laid only twice (18 and 25) and both times were just as good. I'm almost 30 and can still coom twice a day most days of the week. Sexual prowess does drop off but not for a while. If you're healthy and a little lucky you can keep it going until like 40 or more.
It's too late to get in on the ground floor the women I will be able to date without going to prison will have already been with 2 other partners at a minimum.
>without going to prison
It's good to be an eurogay sometimes. At least I can imagine to frick prime pussy (not gonna happen anyway, but at least I can dream unlike you)
15, she was 17. I'm not sure why but it was very difficult for me to get it in, like trying to insert your key in the door after 100 shots of whiskey. Did it in my childhood room while my dad was at work. Very unromantic and awkward first time for me 🙁
21, could have been earlier too.
I fricked a fat chick, like the kind that doesn't have breasts or ass, just blob.
The thing is, after that my confidence went tru the ruff ironically. I only had to tell her I wanted to frick to get laid. Then I retroactively went back to the girls I could have been with before, just flirted a little then asked if they wanted to frick, and we did.
Shit was cash.
I'm 32 now and sex is boring now.
One of every three mfs with girlfriends tell you this. You simply have a poor judgment.
I just keep her around because she contributes to bills and cooks. I just don't like it when she asks to hang out or spend time together. I made her start sleeping in a different room.
Same except I'm 28. I'm so starved for affection that I've fallen in love with Hailee Steinfeld. Over several years I developed a fantasy in my head that really felt like we were in a several year long relationship.
Lost it at 26 then immediately after women started coming out of the woodwork all wanting to frick. It's like they can sense it or something. I did get a decent confidence boost but otherwise acted more or less the same around women. Now that the mystery and novelty are both gone years later I have 0 desire to have anything to do with women, which is a huge fricking weight off my shoulders after romanticizing the idea for the first 25 years of my life.
I am ugly and autistic, I just can't connect with people as I feel like an alien. Felt like an outsider ever since preschool so I just learned to live with myself. The good thing is that I'm a misanthropic schizoid so I spend most of my time alone.
I'm 21 but i give zero fricks about being a virgin or having sex and idk if thats a bad thing or not. At my age I should have a prime libido like the rest of my peers but I'm like "whatever"
I kinda want to get my life together first (Good job, home, car, etc) before I think about actively pursuing woman.
>I kinda want to get my life together first
Idk man, you'll need some confidence for that and when you'll find yourself amongst people talking about fricking this and that you'll feel dead inside and start sweating in terror, secretly praying for them to change subject
>I kinda want to get my life together first
Idk man, you'll need some confidence for that and when you'll find yourself amongst people talking about fricking this and that you'll feel dead inside and start sweating in terror, secretly praying for them to change subject
There's definitely a huge part of me that feels like I should care, I don't want to wait until its too late to the point where the dating market becomes single mothers and mental-asylum tier crazies.
It's just the idea of hookups and short-term girlfriends is extremely off putting to me, The idea of doing something as sacred as sex with someone I have no connection to just sounds like a waste of time and somewhat dangerous depending on the woman. If I ever get horny i could just watch porn at the click of a button (trying to nofap though lmao).
I guess I'd be more interested in SEXO if i was with a woman I was truly in love with. Out of all of my female peers I've only fallen in love with one and she rejected me (Which actually kinda set me on the le "self-improvement before babes" path)
>It's just the idea of hookups and short-term girlfriends
You don't have to sleep around like a prostitute anon. I'd say try to approach girls while you are working on the career. Don't follow the coomer path, and DON'T isolate yourself from the world. That's my main problem, avoiding social scenarios. Just don't do that and you'll be fine I guess. Also, you'll be 30 without even noticing
>That's my main problem, avoiding social scenarios.
Same, and whenever I actually do hang out it's just with the bros.
Maybe joining clubs n stuff would be a good idea for me to get more social involvement since I'm going to university in a few months
During my last job I used to go to the pub with some young coworkers, obviously feeling forced and terrified. At the end of the day it could be fun even if they're normies, and you'll see that girls are more open to engage with you in such situations. Sadly our autistic nature tries to avoid that, and you'll initially feel out of place, almost acting and scared every time they invite you to go outside. It's tough but must be done. For me it's probably too late, but you sound like you have the balls to make it
5 months ago
Anonymous
i guess the problem a lot of guys have is knowing if a woman is just being nice or is genuinely interested in you. you can ruin relationships by being too forward with girls by misinterpreting signals. i've done that, a girl was just being friendly, i asked her out and she ghosted me
5 months ago
Anonymous
I have that problem too, actually. But the cause is the same. Malfuctioning brain
5 months ago
Anonymous
I have that problem too, actually. But the cause is the same. Malfuctioning brain
You guys should just give up. Thats what I did. I'm not happier for it but I have more money. Unless women DM or chase you (and they do this to guys the actually want) you should just drop out of the rat race of dating.
5 months ago
Anonymous
can't give up if you never started in the first place
5 months ago
Anonymous
My problem is I can't even try. I don't spend money, I don't get on dates, I don't get rejected. I don't even know if girls are attracted because I hardly see their signals and never investigate out of fear. I'm just blocked in my mental prison. Actually, thinking about it, some girls showed some signals, and I'm still asking to myself if they were really trying to approach me or if it's my wishful thinking.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>and I'm still asking to myself if they were really trying to approach me or if it's my wishful thinking.
honestly if you have to think about it, they weren't sending you signals. when it happens, you KNOW.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>when it happens, you KNOW
So the "signals" you are talking about are just them straight telling you to frick or them raping you on the spot? Because that's the only thing I can KNOW for sure, and never happened of course
5 months ago
Anonymous
>when it happens, you KNOW.
you're underestimating how oblivious young guys, especially Cinemaphile autists, can be.
One time in early 20s, a girl I knew from high school was lying in my lap, then asked me to take a bath. that is an obvious signal.
5 months ago
Anonymous
maybe your crotch smelled like piss
5 months ago
Anonymous
>then asked me to take a bath
Context? A bath together or what?
Btw I'm 30 and I still can't figure this shit out, and the less experience you gain the less you'll understand it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
She just happened to be an older friends housemate, so the 3 of us went out for pizza and beer, and then she started lying on me (and we had gotten along well that day). Said she had a crush on me in high school, but we never talked then. Asked if I wanted to take a bath, and fortunately, unlike some other times, I took the opportunity. She had a great body, fricked all night. My follow up after this was poor, so no more fricking her after that
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nice anecdote, but not every girl will be this straightforward, especially if she's not a close friend. So my doubts about their signals are still there. I know the only way to be sure is to try, but I just can't
5 months ago
Anonymous
>but not every girl will be this straightforward
of course. I'm decent looking, and we had been drinking, so I sort of just lucked out here. I certainly wasn't using game. You have to learn about their body language, and a big part of her signal will be if she's got a big smile, looking right in your eyes. Unless it's part of her job to smile at you, this is a very good signal she'd like to talk more, maybe go on a date.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>cute coworker few years younger than me >eye contact and smiles even from a distance in a room full of people >laughed at jokes >told me I'm very smart >asked me about my work schedules to know if they were matching with hers
Other case >more younger coworker >laughs at jokes and straight said she finds me funny >asked me if I was gay because I don't comment on girls >asked me if I was a virgin and when I jockingly told her "yes, I'm waiting to marry first", she laughed it off saying it's impossible for me to still be a virgin. I didn't insist on the subject and just smiled like "you got me" >seated near me and hugged me during party >weird sexual subtext during all this shit, but I can't put my finger on it (maybe I'm allucinating?) >she asked "when we go drink something?" a few times, but never did anything (my fault for not insisting of course)
I mean, looking at this signals could be obvious for an expert eye, but I'm still ruminating about them. The last girl in particular, were those the so called "shit tests" or she actually thought I was a gay? Maybe she sensed some strange behaviour and was just curious. Or she wanted a gay friend? I felt she was more likely trying to find a frickbuddy but who knows.
The first girl was too good to be true, so I don't believe it to be real, just wishful thinking
5 months ago
Anonymous
2nd girl wants the D anon. Go for drinks then bring her back to one of your places and get physical
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think it's too late, but who knows. You proved my point though, it's hard to understand those tricks until you analise them all together after some time, and even then you're still full of doubts
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's all just a shit test. Women are basically kind of nice to everyone. They just want to see which alphas and Chads are bold enough to ask them out. A lot of the stuff they say men shouldn't do (cold approach) they don't really care about. It's all just a labyrinth of hoops, filters, and tests.
5 months ago
Anonymous
that shit makes my brain melt and i have no patience for it
5 months ago
Anonymous
We need to just go back to having war brides, arranged marriages, and concubines. Even as a weak beta male Chud my chances of getting laid would be higher via a bronze age moral framework than this current nightmare.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I avoided woman like the plague back in the day so I have zero idea how to manage any of this shit. The only way I could conceivably get a woman to be interested in me was if I was obscenely wealthy
5 months ago
Anonymous
Women don't either. Occasionally, women will make tinder accounts "disguised" as men to prove that straight guys are just dumb or out of touch with women and then they are genuinely shocked at how difficult it is to even maintain a conversation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's hilarious how utterly blind women are to their own behavior >Occasionally, women will make tinder accounts "disguised" as men to prove that straight guys are just dumb or out of touch with women and then they are genuinely shocked at how difficult it is to even maintain a conversation.
That women have to do this instead of just thinking about all the times they ignore a man hitting on them ( or even a hypothetical of what it would take for her to even consider a man) is evidence they are lacking in self awareness.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yup, here is the link I was thinking of. Keep in mind about half of relationships start online.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8370535/Woman-creates-fake-Tinder-profile-man-assumes-easy-dates.html
5 months ago
Anonymous
HR is making it more and more difficult every year to approach women. Families are getting smaller. People are reporting fewer friends. Bars and public places are opting for ladies only nights more and more and are also becoming much more likely to kick out "unwanted" males. College and even higher-ed are the same as work in terms of approaching unless you are an athlete or a gorgeous guy. Women just aren't going to church anymore. Is the human race just going to go extinct or lose half its population or something? How is this supposed to turn around at all? The only solution anyone ever gives is that men just need to "do better". From Jordan Peterson to the churches to the radical feminists who hate Jordan Peterson and churches I here the same line "men need to do better". As long as we abide by the notion that women's standards are't too high, men just aren't living up to them this won't get better but no one irl can blame women for anything.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Is the human race just going to go extinct or lose half its population or something?
Worse; the people that don't care for social etiquette are reproducing because they ignore the rules and still succeed in numbers higher than the people who do follow the etiquette.
So not only is the human population going to collapse, but what remains is going to be made up of barbarians.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Idiocracy
5 months ago
Anonymous
You have to remember - men women aren't attracted to literally don't even fricking mentally register with them. They can't remember because those men are the closest neurological equivalent to being invisible to them.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's okay. Covid lockdowns and tinder have turned zoomer girls into autists too. The only people trying to flirt at bars are the millenioomers doing it 15 years ago.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Covid lockdowns and tinder have turned zoomer girls into autists too
More like into onlyfans and tinder ethots. The bar was just an example of meeting with someone and not closing yourself in your room like I do. You'll not frick there, but it's one way to keep in touch with the normie way of life
In the rich nations women were granted freedom starting in the late 19th century and progressively earned all the same rights as men by the mid 20th century. The developing nations were only a few decades behind. The net impact has been the complete collapse of the family and birthrates across much of the world. Places with the highest birthrates are the least feminized and vice versa.
In the rich nations women were granted freedom starting in the late 19th century and progressively earned all the same rights as men by the mid 20th century. The developing nations were only a few decades behind. The net impact has been the complete collapse of the family and birthrates across much of the world. Places with the highest birthrates are the least feminized and vice versa.
I wonder which brand of ~~*marxism*~~ pushed for that kind of feminism...
If someone has had sex in the last year, then they have also had sex since they've turned 18. I guess with the exception of 18 year olds, but "sexless since turning 18" is also pretty irrelevant for 18 year olds. So that means the "sexless since turning 18" data also peaked in 2018. This would be obvious if you thought about it for a few seconds.
Then why not use the same survey to cover the years since 2018? Why change the survey methods and try to pass it off as covering the same thing?
If someone has had sex in the last year, then they have also had sex since they've turned 18. I guess with the exception of 18 year olds, but "sexless since turning 18" is also pretty irrelevant for 18 year olds. So that means the "sexless since turning 18" data also peaked in 2018. This would be obvious if you thought about it for a few seconds.
>secretly slip mexican hot sauce into allergic customer dish >she's fired for that by your superiors >call her afterwards, telling her how bad you feel and that you think her being fired was an injustice >profit
5 months ago
Anonymous
kek were so short staffed nobody is ever getting fired. frickin kids come in on shrooms hallucinating and they don't get fired. i could beat someone to death with a frying pan and i wouldn't get fired
5 months ago
Anonymous
Then what's the problem? frick her on the kitchen counter
I'm a fat manlet Chud and I have a cute girlfriend who I treat like shit. The anon that posted about their tests is completely right because they want you to not be a doormat. I made my gf like me even more by trying to get her to hate me by ignoring her, yelling at her and hitting her.
The fact that the men feminists hate the most (Trump, Tate) basically do nothing but get laid and have multiple kids to multiple women who voluntarily slept with them makes the believability of these posts super high. Personality is pretty close to being a meme.
I don't have a reason to lie on an anonymous Uzbekistan bread making imageboard. Women don't even know what they want most of the time, there's a reason they'll say they want some beta who treats them nice and then they stay with a guy who gives them a black eye and forces them to sleep on the couch because they threw a temper tantrum. Women should be treated like children or exotic pets because mentally they are.
Just turned 28, only had a online relationship and it honestly feels like shit bros. Have had a unusual life, moving between two countries, couldnt speak the language for a while which lead to social withdrawal. I think Im reasonably attractive and probably not autistic, but Im not normie either. Have been working towards ambitious/risky goals my entire 20s and Im nowhere near where I want to be with them yet, everything got delayed by constant roadblocks so Im not well off with money/career. Feel like no one would want to date me in my current situation but nearing 30 as a virgin feels like shit. Then again I also feel like getting laid is just a shitty peer pressure and I should probably just keep focusing on myself and my goals.
I think the ideal is to have a ruthless side of yourself but use it for good. You need to be able to show women you're not a doormat and capable of destruction, but you don't need to be a total dick about it either. Being dark triad is just often a really easy way to activate that primal attraction in women.
I've never understood the whole "jerk off so much you can't get it up for a real women" meme.
I jerk off almost every day and I'm still unbearably horny and pop random stiffys all the fricking time.
Does being in front of a girl for the first time effect you that much?
The only reason to have sex, and I mean LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON, is that fricking without a condom on feels pretty great. Nothing else about sex is even remotely enjoyable, not the stupid foreplay, not the cuddling, I don't even particularly enjoy getting my dick sucked anymore. I'd rather eat a burrito and watch American Dad and be left the frick alone. No, I'm not going to marry you. No, you're not going to trick me into getting you pregnant(I've had a few women really try hard with that one), and no, you're not coming to live with me in my big empty house.
>my big empty house.
For one thing, it's my fricking house. For another thing, I like it big and empty, and lastly you're a fricking bore. Women are for the most part IMMENSELY boring. No, I'm not interested in hearing about your stupid day. No, I don't care what Sarah the intern said about your hair. No, I don't FRICKING CARE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE FEELING TODAY
Kind of similar to my situation but in my case becoming a dad at 14 put me off sex for almost 20 years. I didn't sleep with anyone until earlier this year at 33. The virgin gets put off sex from jizzing his pants his first time, but I became put off from it out of fear of getting someone pregnant. I became a pariah overnight once news got out that I was gonna be a father. As if I had committed a horrible crime. I think it might have given me some type of trauma
>dude sex isn't a big deal once you have it you'll realize it doesn't change anything >YOU'RE A FRICKING SOCIAL GENETIC FREAK IF YOU'RE A VIRGIN PAST 25
It really doesn't change much and nobody thinks you're a freak if you're a virgin past 25, nobody even knows or cares. If anything, you'll just look back and realize how dumb it was to stress so much over being a virgin
im a kissless virgin at 32, ive never even made an attempt to have sex or even ask a girl on a date. once i got to the age where people start actively trying to get in relationships late middle school and start of high school is when i became a social outcast, and since i was a social outcast there was no opportunity or reason for me to try to ask out girls. then i got to college and was still a loser so hid even more, and i stayed a complete loser since.
im so ashamed and humiliated about how worthless my life is that the thought of even having a conversation with another person and revealing anything about my pathetic life fills me with utter dread. i could never even go so far as to making a dating app profile or even talking to a woman. i take the subway every day and always see some cute girls or women on it, including women who get on/off at my very own home stop, and im still too afraid to talk to anyone.
It's the damndest thing. Every minute of every day, naked people are inside rooms and they rub their genitals against each other in adult ways. It happens constantly, all the time, and all the adults are aware that it's a normal activity for adults in general. Adults plan their conversations with each other around this reality, and its downstream effects. It's a very strange phenomenon that sex is real.
I can scarcely believe it myself but all evidence points towards it. I attended a BDSM event at age 28 and I saw a real live woman's vegana for the first time ever. It was in a private residence.
For some reason, I get a weird sense of identity from not fricking and feel zero shame or embarrassment when telling people it's been 15 years since I had a "gf" (lasted one week in high school). I feel unique in how I'm a relatively normal guy that just doesn't care about not getting pussy, and I genuinely feel like a weird cool outsider when telling people I work with I haven't had sex since I was 15. If I was just a normal everyday cookiecutter schlub scraping up busted wageslave pussy every once in a while I would actually feel worse than being a young guy who's just 'too cool to frick'. Plus, it helps that I'm pornosexual and can only get sexual gratification from edging to BBW ebony twerk videos for an hour a day.
>had sex at 15 like a disgusting normie >gets sexual gratification from edging to BBW ebony twerk videos for an hour a day >is proud of all that
Most unbased post ever
It depends how far you are willing to drop your dignity.
Most guys pay for dirty prostitutes, some guys get ugly fat b***hes whose appearance would make a normal person barf.
I had a fat girl, but i left her after several months, and then moved.
And ever since then i couldn't move past the disgust i felt with myself.
Most people maybe can, i can't.
I will no longer drop myself to that level.
It's sorta like when you know stove is hot, but you touch it, and you get a burn scar forever on your hand/body.
Some lessons are best learned the hard way.
All i can tell people is, hey you probably shouldn't touch the stove with bare hand.
Don't do it.
But people are free to make choices, it might be hard to learn if you don't make a mistake.
I had the luck or misfortune of my first time being with a late-20s Mexican woman with a gymthot body. It's hard to lower your standards after a great first time.
Unfortunately, she was a divorcee and just wanted a fling.
I thought about commenting on its dated (about 15 years!) status earlier but the basic norm/expectation is still basically the same. the only thing that's changed as of now is that the aware public understands that it's much harder for young men to get laid and so maybe lay off of them a bit.. It's war. They want a war to get rid of the surplus men. Don't let them use this tactic. Refuse to fight. Force women to accept inferior and dysgenic seed for the higher purpose of species-wide stability.
Because there is some real understanding in the population at this point that it's a serious sociological problem at this point. It's not a joke, "haha you loser Have Sex/Touch Grass/Unserious Reply" is flippant. I've been around real chads who understand this by now.
They should make a remake, and name it 50 (or 60)-year-old virgin.
40 is the cusp when there's a ray of hope left, and look how that turned out for him. The main character was unironically worse off at the end of the picture than at the beginning. Posing the same problem at a much later age is simply too depressing and can't be turned into the romcom angle as they did in the picture.
>Reply" is flippant.
so what?
if the runts of the pack aren't eating/having sex......the pack only gets stronger.
its YOUR OWN FAULT if you're not getting laid.
you don't need the Federal government to step in. You don't need legislation. You don't need to be spoonfed how to breathe to keep you alive
YOU NEED to learn what it takes to be a MAN
YOU NEED to learn how to develop social skills and quit respecting women
>you don't need the Federal government to step in. You don't need legislation. You don't need to be spoonfed how to breathe to keep you alive
Naw. American women are extraordinarily unreasonable. I can get laid off Tinder in Western Europe with reasonably attractive women that wouldn't give me the time of day in the US. Bri'ish and German women are just as liberal and feminist as American women; their expectations aren't as stratospheric and moronic and they're better at not getting obese in their 20s.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>American women are extraordinarily unreasonable.
so now we're blaming women instead of men that can't get laid?
the issue was > men can't get laid
now we're moving to > women are shit so we can't start families
which is it?
Men not getting laid = severely socially stunted schizo manchildren
Women being shit = this has always been true. TAME THE c**t
5 months ago
Anonymous
>so now we're blaming women instead of men that can't get laid?
Yes, that's the whole point. You are correct that men need to learn confidence, assert themselves, make the first move and so on, but these healthy attitudes and behaviors are becoming less effective in the current pathological (because woman-governed) environment. Women are empowered to do whatever they want, all the time, with something approaching impunity.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Women are empowered to do whatever they want, all the time, with something approaching impunity.
women "power" is as real as the woman action hero
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BE ASSERTIVE
5 months ago
Anonymous
Again, this is a dishonest reply because it ignores state power and the microphysics of how a woman feels at some given moment when an unattractive man tries something. Still, there's a kernel of honesty: just fricking do something. The trick for the individual man is to plan the right way.
That video appears to contain black people so I didn't look at it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>so now we're blaming wome
Yes. I didn't magically change by going to Europe; I didn't even change my dating profile's language, The only variable that changed was the women. This was Western Europe; it's not like I was going to Poland like all those "Oi bruv, pay me 1000 quid for my daygame bootcamp" British losers.
American women are the problem.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>American women are the problem.
So what are you gonna do about it?
I'm 50.
I get 22-28 yo pussy on the regular.
WHY?
because "western men' are massive homosexuals that do not lead, do not inspire confidence, do not have anything going for them, are effeminate, are b***h made punks and get streamrolled at the sight of any trouble/conflict
SKILL ISSUE
picrel
5 months ago
Anonymous
>So what are you gonna do about it?
Take sabbatical in Europe in the next year or two. That's the straightforward and obvious path to success.
>I get 22-28 yo pussy on the regular.
Yeah, because you pay for prostitutes it in a poor country like Romania or Thailand like all the other Gen X masculinity gurus. The only respectable thing about you is that you scam jeets out of their pocket change for your Hustler University or Pickup Coaching Zoom Call.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm 50
Now it's clear. You just grew up in the old world boomer. When women acted as women and you just proposed yourself to them.
>looking silly
This is the deal actually. I don't want to look silly. And I confirm it. What other people think is all you are. You exist in their eyes. If everyone thinks you're a retatd, you can have Isaac Newton's IQ and still be a retatd. With that I'm not saying you should follow what other people say you should do, but have some dignity in what you do. Chasing skirts like a beggar (because that's what you're doing no matter what bullshit tell yourself) isn't helping your reputation
you can't understand what I wrote here because you had to deal with a functioning society, not the shit you booms left to us. Go frick yourself granpa
5 months ago
Anonymous
>>I'm 50 >Now it's clear. You just grew up in the old world boomer.
your coomadled brain mustve missed the part where I pickup 20-somethings on the regular because men their age are queers like all those in this thread.
THEY ALL ARE LONGING FOR A MASCULINE PRESENCE IN THEIR LIVES TO LEAD
doesn't matter the age because all women are children
BE A KING & YOU'LL BE TREATED LIKE ONE
5 months ago
Anonymous
>your coomadled brain mustve missed the part where I pickup 20-somethings on the regular because men their age are queers like all those in this thread.
You forgot about the part where you give them $500 in free coke and MDMA, like all the other Gen X burnouts. Wow, real impressive.
You gonna post the video of sticking dildos up your ass like all the other Gen X redpill morons. Jack Murphy and Gavin McInnes did it. Now that's ALPA.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't matter the age because all women are children
Wise words but these virgins will ignore your post and hate you because you speak the truth.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The Xoomers are full of shit. When you look at how those PUA and masculinity and redpill Gen Xers were getting pussy, it was inevitably because they had an in they were omitting (DJ, brought the drugs, etc), were prostitutemongering overseas or in poor countries, or were just lying and making shit up (Fat Forney)
5 months ago
Anonymous
>PUA and masculinity
there is a massive difference between > pick up lines (chasing/appealling to women emotions)
and > being a self-interested man, devoted to your own personal evolution to greatness
the latter is a never ending quest to run TOWARDS friction / conflict to make yourself better
5 months ago
Anonymous
Frick off, moron. All the coke has addled your brain so much you've lost your reading comprehension.
5 months ago
Anonymous
max reply nose dive
this thread and its hilarious "NO SOLUTION" cope all because manchildren refuse to GROW UP
5 months ago
Anonymous
>NO SOLUTION" cope
Actually ther is a solution. Complete restoration of pre-1968 society
5 months ago
Anonymous
>There's something wrong with American women. when I've went to Europe, and Western Europe, I don't have the same difficulties I do in the US. >No dude, it's the grind. You lack hustle; that's why things change by going to Europe. It couldn't be a American women.
You either are running interference for landwhales that think they deserve Chads because you're a moron. Or the coke has limited your mental faculties. Which is it, Xoomer?
5 months ago
Anonymous
dont care about your skill issue cope.
move to fricking Khazikstan for all the frick I care if thats the only twat you can pull, homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Have sex. Wait, not like that.
Enjoy your heart attack, cokehead.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Enjoy
enjoy monklife you no pussy getting homosexual zero skill homosexual . play some more vidya gaymes. im sure its helping
5 months ago
Anonymous
I've had sex without paying for it. Which is more than your Roissy regurgitating geriatric, gen X self can say. Book another trip to Manila. Have another drink. Do another line.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I've had sex
5 months ago
Anonymous
>"western men' are massive homosexuals that do not lead, do not inspire confidence, do not have anything going for them, are effeminate, are b***h made punks and get streamrolled at the sight of any trouble/conflict
ITT. proven right.
"its everyone elses fault/problem" except me, the one with the role/responsibility for change.
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5 months ago
Anonymous
based and checked, I don't feel any sympathy for these betas
>Force women to accept inferior and dysgenic seed for the higher purpose of species-wide stability.
its a skill issue. get gud
women are still having sex, believe me.
you want > no penis left behind theory
because you incels are sexually moronic
War would only make things worse, realistically. Part of why the American South is a shithole is because most bloodlines worth a damn ended in the Civil War. The men left were the infirm, the stupid, and cowards - and the region was a backwater for the next 100 years.
Why the frick someone not being overtly sexual has to be a wienerlover? What's the connection in the normie mind?
You're obviously not mentally disabled, friend. Otherwise you wouldn't be having this lucid conversation with me on this dying imageboard. Not having sex doesn't mean you can't function within society. Does it make you awkward and angry? Probably, but you're still capable of human function and care. Sex doesn't make them better than you, especially when some of these guys are eating the runny veganas of morbidly obese women on an overdose of SSRIs and Instagram while their mulatto child cries in the next room. All because they think it WON'T make them look as bad as you which is delusional. Pussy doesn't make anyone better or special.
My words are probably just like an annoying ringing in your ear, and you won't change your mind most likely, but don't let them psyche you out of life's desires and passions just because they got an STI and you haven't.
5 months ago
Anonymous
they see no other reason why somebody would not be overtly sexual other than being a wienerlover
5 months ago
Anonymous
But that's nonsense since gays are the most overtly sexual beings on earth. They shove their sexual orientation in your face and even build their whole personality on it
5 months ago
Anonymous
I guess they see it more as someone who is struggling with their sexuality and is in the closet
5 months ago
Anonymous
>someone is struggling with his sexuality and in the closet >I'll ask him if he's gay straight on his face >that will surely help
Fricking normies I swear
>haven't even held a hand or been in a date.
pussy on the pedestal
actually its not that its > being a total pussy in life
you don't pursue anything. You wait for manna from heaven and never attack what you want. this is why you're starving
No, I am fine with it and don't see vegana as some great thing. I'm alright with pursuing my creative passions and just helping my family now, since they're all good people and married and could use the help in rough times to come. Least I can do is be sure they're happy and leave some decent creative work behind. I asked girls out the last two years too. None of them went for it or changed their mind before meeting. Most of them initiated it themselves even. One was a morbidly obese israeli girl and obviously had BPD, and still turned me down right before meeting. Not even really upset at them, except for not telling me at the start and wasting time I could've spent on something else.
Some guys just have a hard go of it. If I put vegana on a pedestal I would have killed myself by now. Or maybe paid for it to fill the void, but I know that won't help.
How do you avoid people talking about sex?
Why would you avoid it? I just listen to their stories about women and joke like the rest. I also don't lie when asked if I'm a virgin either. The worst thing you can do when you're older is bear it like some cross in front of others. Just take the banter, banter back, and go back to watching the dumb action movie with the lads drunk.
>listen to sex stories >never tell sex stories >normies start to think you're gay (never understood why since you're not talking about dicks either) or figure out that you're a virgin >if you confirm it they'll secretly consider you a subhuman forever >if you make shit up they probably find out anyway but with some doubts about it (the gay thing returns)
I don't see any good outcome here. I'm younger than you and everytime people brings the sex subject in the conversation I panic inside (even worse if they are younger than me)
Stop caring what they think. My best friend of 20 years still jokes about it to me to this day and he's a normalgay. Then I bust his balls about the fact with all the kids he has he'll never have a quiet moment in his life again. He'll always be on the edge of panic trying to provide for them and fighting off the new dystopia constantly trying to turn them all queer. Both paths have their tribulations.
I understand your pensiveness and anxiety, I was very much like that too all through high school and much of my twenties. It all comes from fear of being judged by people you don't even really respect anyway. What I learned is you're going to die one day so who cares if they know your pee-pee is always dry, and that most normal people in social situations aren't going to challenge you beyond a joke or two anyway.
In place of sex stories I tell disgusting sex jokes. I'm creative enough and I've seen enough porn and naked ladies to do so; laughter often disables sincerity in casual conversations, and they'll not care you haven't got your dick wet if you're in good spirits and humor. Some might even try to help, it's just the guys I know can only help by paying a prostitute to do it so I never take the offer.
The problem isn't about not let them know you're not having sex, but that you're a mental disabled person. The fact they propose to help is even worse, I'd probably feel more humiliated by that than being made fun of
5 months ago
Anonymous
You're obviously not mentally disabled, friend. Otherwise you wouldn't be having this lucid conversation with me on this dying imageboard. Not having sex doesn't mean you can't function within society. Does it make you awkward and angry? Probably, but you're still capable of human function and care. Sex doesn't make them better than you, especially when some of these guys are eating the runny veganas of morbidly obese women on an overdose of SSRIs and Instagram while their mulatto child cries in the next room. All because they think it WON'T make them look as bad as you which is delusional. Pussy doesn't make anyone better or special.
My words are probably just like an annoying ringing in your ear, and you won't change your mind most likely, but don't let them psyche you out of life's desires and passions just because they got an STI and you haven't.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Pussy doesn't make anyone better or special.
THIS
most important
however, as men, we are biologically programmed to hump legs...most of the time. If, in your teens, you weren't pussy craved, then you have zero testosterone.
Men are programmed in our DNA to frick, cum, screw, hump....all day long. Its a natural urge. Don't let society suppress that. Is okay, its healthy, enjoy it.
If you're under 40 and aren't horny most of the day.....get your T-levels checked because being depressed and uninspired is not normal
5 months ago
Anonymous
Of course we're not moronic. But we have a mental issue indeed. And people thinking you're a weirdo isn't good, even if they hide their true feelings on it
5 months ago
Anonymous
Everyone has mental issues now. I guarantee when and if you do try to date, you will quickly discover that the majority of women are walking DSM manuals nowadays. This gets worse the older you wait to try, and after trying at 37 and not really caring anymore that I'll die celibate, I assure you part of that is because of the instability in girls nowadays. If you think being an old virgin is a red flag, wait until you meet some of the women willing to settle for an old virgin.
Not having dumped a load in a woman that'll never love you, or having anxiety about talking to others, is the least of the crazy that is out there. Take pride in the fact you even have some self-awareness about your circumstances, and address it as you see fit. There are many things in life that is not pussy that can at least help you cope and find some minor since of fulfillment. In some cases more so than women ever could. Don't let it devour you so quickly.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Being a wine addicted cat lady and an older virgin are comparable issues under society's eyes. Both are shameful, both proving you failed in an important aspect of your life. The stigma is more painful than the issue itself
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't understand why the people you don't even really want the respect of, and you have even probably ran to this corner of the internet to escape, has any say in the matter of your worth as a man. If you're trying your best, living a healthy life and helping those you care for, then their opinions are meaningless. If it is a stigma in their eyes then they aren't worth your time to worry about. And you can function fine in society without pussy, albeit begrudgingly and frustrated, but still you can get things done for yourself and the ones in your life who do give a damn.
Our formerly pleasant society and its good faith in its fellow man turned to dust a long time ago, and our generations just have to suffer the aftermath. You only need to care as much as getting a job if you need one. Beyond that strive for something more than yielding favorable opinions of single mothers and male feminists with troony wives, because those are the types who enable a stigma upon awkward men just not able to find love. If those are the types normalgays are okay with and willing to enable and approve of, then who cares what they and society think?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>My words are probably just like an annoying ringing in your ear, and you won't change your mind most likely
Not at all, it was a pleasure >but don't let them psyche you out of life's desires and passions just because they got an STI and you haven't.
The sad thing is being aware that you'll never completely fulfill those life desires and passions knowing you'll be forever alone
>never attack what you want.
Not him but we're not talking about attacking. It's about humiliating yourself in front of another person, exposing your inner desires to the judgement of the girl and risking to be ridiculed for that. At least that's what blocks me.
>It's about humiliating yourself in front of another person,
you're the moron, then
As a MAN, you don't fricking chase a woman. You pursue women. If ONE doesn't want you, who cares, you're fishing for dozens.
QUIT trying to reason with 'women' like men. They arent men. They are children. LEAD and TAKE what you want. Don't apologize, don't ever ask. Quit being weak....
None of this is possible to fake. YOU are a weak man, thats why this very basic, extremely simple thing escapes you. YOU aren't forceful enough in life. You are so scared of offending others or looking silly and being insecure you never accomplish anything
SKILL ISSUE
you want to blame women because you run from every conflict, especially the life lessons telling you that you have to put in work
>looking silly
This is the deal actually. I don't want to look silly. And I confirm it. What other people think is all you are. You exist in their eyes. If everyone thinks you're a retatd, you can have Isaac Newton's IQ and still be a retatd. With that I'm not saying you should follow what other people say you should do, but have some dignity in what you do. Chasing skirts like a beggar (because that's what you're doing no matter what bullshit tell yourself) isn't helping your reputation
Again, this is a dishonest reply because it ignores state power and the microphysics of how a woman feels at some given moment when an unattractive man tries something. Still, there's a kernel of honesty: just fricking do something. The trick for the individual man is to plan the right way.
That video appears to contain black people so I didn't look at it.
desperately trying to 'lure' pussy like some groomer is weak shit. You BE you. Thats all you have to do. When you LEAD, followers chase/join you. Thats what a MAN exudes
If a guy fawns over a girl with attention, adoration, appealing to her sense of favor.....he's already lost any leverage. This is why men cannot devote their attention to just ONE woman at a time. Just do YOUR thing....the women will naturally come to you
>Reply" is flippant.
so what?
if the runts of the pack aren't eating/having sex......the pack only gets stronger.
its YOUR OWN FAULT if you're not getting laid.
you don't need the Federal government to step in. You don't need legislation. You don't need to be spoonfed how to breathe to keep you alive
YOU NEED to learn what it takes to be a MAN
YOU NEED to learn how to develop social skills and quit respecting women
Your kind of gay, courage wolf-tier rhetoric might work on impressionable young men. I’ve interacted with doughy, effeminate, poor, weed-addled dorks most my life and they have sex. Why? Not because they’re masculine but because sex is something everyone wants and they just badger women until they get it. They are not tough, or courageous, or alpha or whatever. They are like kids whining to their mother about wanting ice cream or some shit. There is no shame or discipline they just operate off their id.
>just badger women until they get it.
lol.....
that has to be incredibly frustrating and massively disappointing for whatever roastie is in the habit of dolling out sympathy lays
>be me >have zero standards at all when it comes to women >find, conservatively, 90% of girls and women between the ages of teenage years through their 30s, and honestly probably the 40s, to be somewhat cute or attractive >doesn't matter their race or weight (as long as not obese), in fact I even find chubby woemnti be more desirable to me because they usually have bigger breasts and fat ass and wide hips, even ethnic girls I like more >should have no problem getting any girls >social avoidance makes me completely avoid talking to people altogether
>somewhat cute or attractive
Yeah, but can you imagine fricking them? Because I noticed that despite finding some pleasing particular, not every girl would make it for me. Sometines it feels weird, sometimes not enough attraction. Try to visualize the sensation of holding them between your arms and french kiss them (especilally this is a good indicator) in detail
>i dont know how anything feels
Neither do I, but closely looking at a girl should give you an idea. Do you have the impulse to french kiss her? Some girls are almost repulsive by that point of view
It could just be me but people are always telling me how easier it was to get laid before dating apps made women pursue the top 10 percent of men. In my friend group, nobody has gotten laid recently except the one guy with a girlfriend though that was his only person.
people basically say the complete opposite with this
>some people say its easier than ever because of the easy access to profiles >some people say its harder than ever because girls wont meet up from the phone, have a billion options at the same time, etc
>boomers had it easy because ww2 veteran daddy spoiled their asses >hey fellow boomers, this easy mode society looks too bigot, let's destroy it >look at this feminism instead! >*actually destroy it and push feminism* >left their kids grew up like savages in their utopia world in ruins >"you kids are spoiled and weak" >want a gf? Just attack! >no! not like that racist sexist incel!!!
Are they for real
Women are objectively worse than in men pumping and dumping people. Like it's so fricking bad, you just can't get a stable relationship as a guy because girls chase new wieners
Pic rel was released 12 years ago and is already outdated. What happened man?
For all you whining about "western women" being too hard.
Yes, they are shit and do FRONT the masquerade of being judmental or whatever.
HOWEVER, they KNOW this doesn't work for them. THey KNOW they carry too much masculine energy. They WANT to be feminine....this shit kills them inside and they are fully aware of it. If you're a MAN, you can instantly expose this nerve and OWN THEM. They actually want to surrender to a man and be a 'woman'. They won't be worthy of it right away so you have to break them down.
I'm pointing this out because you incels scared to death of assertive women in the west are scared of a paper tiger boogeyman. It isn't real.
The real and only problem - the root cause - is YOU not being a man, though. Pussy can be had easily (paid or otherwise) but pussy, itself, isn't the ANSWER. What is causing you frustration is trying to make yourself fit into a well adjusted beta male role. it doesn't fit.
erase that beta programming and get on a self improvement path that is ONLY about you improving as a self reliant MAN
>I'm pointing this out because you incels scared to death of assertive women in the west are scared of a paper tiger boogeyman. It isn't real.
American women are uniquely obstinate. Canadian white chicks weren't nearly as stuck up. Nor Brits, nor Germans. All of those are way more feminist than American women, but are way more realistic on average.
I'm a fat manlet with a cute girlfriend and this thread reminds me of Elliot Roger complaining about pajeets in old hondas getting gfs while he drove a bmw and couldn't even talk to them
I just turned 38 and I'm a virgin. In the last few months my libido has went kaput. It's been distressful for me because I really enjoyed watching porn. Now, nothing turns me on. I am pretty sure the culprit is low testosterone. My bad habits and sedentary lifestyle, along with my age have finally caught up with me. I'm going to have to make many positive changes in my life to get my sexual drive back. I'd really like to experience sex for hedonistic reasons. I can't help but wonder what it would be like after two weeks of abstaining from from masturbation to pop 50mg of Adderall, smoke a couple bowls, and bury my face in some hot girls ass. I should save up for some meth and a high class escort for a night.
it isn't, it's a movie
12 more years ;__;
I'm 22 years old and my dad makes fun of me for being a virgin. He calls me "Virgy" in front of my friends and women, it's so fricking annoying. I can't even blame him for doing a shitty job raising me because my younger brother is a Chad and listened to my parents while I just played FFXIV for the past 6 years.
>I just played FFXIV for the past 6 years.
Have you come out to your parents as trans yet?
When did we all lose our virginity boys? 22 for me and I felt like I was way behind
18 to a prostitute my dad paid for. Didn't change a thing
Three months. Soon...
That's honestly horrible. That's unironically a very shitty thing for your dad to do IMO.
>That's honestly horrible. That's unironically a very shitty thing for your dad to do IMO.
That's how they did in the past. Apparently it worked. Then sexual revolution happened and everyone is left out in the jungle
>That's how they did in the past.
that's a meme and only lower class moronic people did that
Yeah yeah, apparently brothels were very few and thriving to stay afloat. Also there weren't high class maisons neither...
18, prostitute as well. My dad didn't pay for it though. It wasn't good lmao I wish I would've just waited.
I don't understand why people do that. To be fair, I don't have life experience with this sort of thing but I've never seriously considered paying for a prostitute, even to get "mechanical" experience. Like, why.
>I've never seriously considered paying for a prostitute, even to get "mechanical" experience. Like, why.
Except for the moral shit, I feel like it would feel even more weird and frustrating than approaching a real girl. That's why virgins are all mentalcels, a n ugly guy really wanting to frick would go to a prostitute, while some autist fricked in the head like me wouldn't. If not forced by someone. And here we are, anon's dad was just pushing him into it, knowing he's a fricked up mentalcel. Nobody pushed me and I'm Merlin now
I feel very fortunate that my parents never pressured me on the girlfriend subject, and have never voiced an expectation for grandchildren. That suits me fine. If they're disappointed, they do a good job of hiding it around me. I think they're just happy that I live independently in my own place. If others are being polite becuause "they know", then that suits me fine too.
The only person who ever expressed any serious interest in whether I had a girlfriend was grandma, the few times that she asked before her steep decline into dementia when I was a teenager.
>boomers don't give a frick
>only caring one was granny before dementia
If you only knew how bad things really are...
16, wasnt worth it. the great sex only started in my mid 20s anyways
Nearly identical experience. My first time I was too nervous to focus, my brain was going a mile a minute thinking about every other kind of random shit other than the sex I was having. Plus I was used to death grip no lotion fapping, so condom sex didn't feel as good as I'd hoped. I didn't really enjoy sex until I got a gf at age 19, and after we broke up I didn't really enjoy any of my hookups until I was like 24. I think I just had to age out of some sexual guilt and worries about not being good in bed.
29. some married woman i met in china. oh lawdy
26 almost 27. I’m married with a kid now but it never leaves you once you get that close to wizardhood. I’m deranged.
I am unironically waiting until marriage.
Why? Chaste, non-blob church girls are gone by like 23. What are you saving your virginity for at that point - for hamplanets and "reformed" single moms?
>Why?
Fornication is disordered. It is perverted sexual pleasure sough for itself and removed from the unitive and procreative purposes of sex.
I see you were raised catholic
this is the same as waiting to have a real conversation until marriage, it's just plain moronic and a recipe for a bad marriage
I don't think someone that believes sex and a conversation are comparable has any room to call anything moronic.
they are in terms of marriage building, equally important to be on the same page and theres no reason to leave either to chance by just waiting and hoping it will work out.
>they are in terms of marriage building
They are not, but you are too much of a slave to your own lust to see that.
you will make a woman very unhappy someday
Struck a nerve?
Man, all these posts about sex are becoming a real blackpill. Sex really seems to have a tight grip on most people. I also find funny how people try to justify their promiscuity on some type of "evolutionary imperative", as if the fact that they are doing it without the purpose of reproduction doesn't contrict the alleged "natural" explanation to their way of acting.
Just be honest and say that you've sex because you enjoy it, instead of pretending to follow some "evolutionary imperative" that, for whatever reason, decides to leave out the only biological purpose of sex.
*doesn't contradict
Don't think about blackpills. The blackpill is a lie. We already know the end of our story. Christ wins.
It was only a figure of speech.
>We already know the end of our story. Christ wins.
This. God bless you anon, we need more of the truth on this site
Your body has no way of knowing whether you are having sex for reproduction or not, it just wants you to have sex. That's like saying the fact people eat food for pleasure sometimes means eating isn't a biological imperative. Why do you think sex feels good in the first place?
>Your body has no way of knowing whether you are having sex for reproduction or not
What about masturbation then? How your body knows the difference? It's not your body, but your mind. Your body only needs to release semen sometimes, if you don't act on it it eill happen in your sleep. But your mind knows if you're a looser virgin and knows if you're a soulless sex addict fricking every hole. Neither are good for mental health.
>Sex really seems to have a tight grip on most people.
Have you ever actually had sex? It's terrible, they want to stick around afterwards and cuddle and the bed is too hot and also sweaty and the combined body heat is too much and the bed gets overheated and they sort of think they're you're friend now but they're not your friend. The second after you cum I'm just disgusted by them anyways but they don't want to be alone because they're needy or some other stupid made up feeling so I have to take them out for some breakfast and buy them a fricking omelet that we both know she's not going to finish and then when its over you have to get her number and promise you'll call her but we both know you're not going to call her. Why would you? You already got what you wanted out of her and the sex was mediocre at best and you wasted one of the two days a week you have free of being a wagecuck, you took your valuable free time and you fricking wasted it on some average broad when you could have paid for a hooker and had her get up and leave so I could go back to playing video games.
except it's worked for literally all of human history
the vast majority of marriages held because women had no chance to build a life of their own up until a few decades ago. if being miserable with your husband or starving in the streets are your options, then the choice is simple
moronic woman post
Because of shotgun marriages, and a blind eye to prostitution and mistresses.
How's that Catholicism working out with the extremely high rates of bastardry and single motherhood in Catholic countries? Liberal protestantism seems to be more stable in practice.
not that anon but the infiltration of the church by masons has caused that not the rules themselves. look up the stats on tlm go'ers and you'll see that they have no issue staying celibate until marriage
>the infiltration of the churches by masons
Coping moron. The priests are gays, the laity are browns that couldn't be monogamous if they tried, and Jesuit tricks are eternal.
The Catholic church has nobody to blame but itself for the state it's in.
>muh TLM, muh tradcath
homie, you're a Protestant.
>How's that Catholicism working out with the extremely high rates of bastardry and single motherhood in Catholic countries?
It's not really a Catholic problem, but a Black person and Hispanic problem. Non-whites except for a some east Asians have low impulse control.
23, felt similarly. Then I went on a 5 year dry streak.
I had fun. I don't know why most guys find it disappointing.
30 from a prostitute i dont even know her name
i'm a 31 year old kissless virgin and i will die a virgin.
27
Starting to see how much i missed out on and can’t really get back, gained a bunch of weight and am in a shitty relationship now.
>Starting to see how much i missed out on and can’t really get back
how was this demonstrated to you?
27. I was afraid of women straight up, I'd get like pre cum just talking to women too. Shit was embarrassing. Never even kissed a woman either.
Paid 1200 to frick a 9/10 then another 1100 to frick a 8.5 pornstar from FTV.
Once I finally got sex I got confidence talking to women and have no problem interacting with them now. End of of blog.
I'm that age now and I'm thinking about doing the same thing. Didn't expect to get a confidence boost from it, though. What made it change for you? Did they compliment you or something?
I did get a boost no lie. I think it was just feeling like everyone else. For a long time I was just a weirdo. "Why can't I get laid?" Having a weird fear of women. I had no women in my phonebook, sans my mom lol. No female friends or even female coworkers. I told the first girl I was a virgin and she didn't make fun of me or anything.
But once I had sex at least I felt somewhat normal. I'm in a relationship now and I met her at work. But would I have if I'd never had sex with those chicks? I don't think so.
I'm thinking of paying a prostitute too but my dick has a scar (surgery) and I'm ashamed of it.
I will probably get no confidence boost.
16, like a normal human you know?
I'm becoming a wizard in 2024
I was 16 when I fingered a girl for the first time and did it a couple of other times, but I properly had sex (benis in vagin) only when I was 23 because, due to jerking off about 4 - 5 times a day to porn since I was 1, so I couldn't get it up in real life (+ nerves of thinking it's too small and she will laugh (in comparison to the big wieners in porn))
since I was 13*
Reminder.
More than human? Less than human? I don’t know what this makes me.
If normies knew...
Two weeks without cooming? Because otherwise this is moronic even by normie standards... normal people goes months without having sex. Of course this shit is written by hollyjews habing orgies with prime wannabe actresses so...
95% sure it's a shoop
I'm 100% sure. It's a meme. But the likeliness of it makes my statement still valid
>normal people goes months without having sex
Really don’t think they do, going by the normalgays I know at least.
people
he's referring to average looking guys, not women
This. Even extrovert normies always complain about not fricking. Maybe you only know Chads
>I didn’t date for at least seven months, and didn’t have sex for eight. This was the longest time in my adult life that I had abstained.
https://yellowandblackmail.com/2016/06/13/dick-is-abundant-and-low-value/
This woman is the definition of a 5/10 and started going bonkers after eight months of choosing not to have sex. Meanwhile almost 30% of guys in the 18-29 y/o range aren't ever getting laid and more than half are single.
>5/10
You're too generous, she looks like Phyllis from the office
It's amazing how easy women have it in terms of dating. The result is they all think they have amazing personalities, great looks, and interesting lives when really it's just their vegana that gives them game. Then they see struggling guys and think that the solution is for the guys to "develop" intersting personalities like them. They don't get that pictures of their lunch or vacation in The Bahamas aren't the reason guys want to bang them.
I think women are just less likely to be autistic than men. Simply that. This is the final redpill
i think they're more autistic but they're better at hiding it in everyday life
Fair enough, but our curse is mental, despite incel will tell you otherwise. If you're a virgin ask yourself why you don't want to visit a prostitute and you'll find the source of the problem.
>No human being can go through that.
I'm 22 and still a virgin. Even though I'm here, I'm actually far from being socially inept in the slightest. I'm neither unattractive, and I've had girls show an interest towards me (sometimes in a rather brazen manner). I simply don't care, and never cared. Not even as a teenager, much less as an adult. Nobody I know in real life bothers me due to it—it's usually just Internet randoms who get all pissy because I'm not falling into despair due to being a virgin. Nobody treats me different for being a virgin; some people had actually reacted surprised to the fact that I am.
19 and while it gave me a huge confidence boost for a while it wore off and I wish I waited for something more meaningful. I'm 28 now.
hasn't happened yet
16. She was 15. We were both virgins.
I'm aiming for wizardhood.
16 and she was 38.
Thank you Eminem, you are a fricking Saint for platforming white trash trailer park kids into being desirable because I started slaying in the late 90s
I had sex once when I was 17. I didn’t have sex again until I was 22 : (
19 here. coulda been earlier but lacked any sort of confidence when it came to women. first time was with my gf who was a few years younger than me and supposedly a virgin as well. for some reason i couldn't get a boner when we were about to frick even though we did everything else up to that point. went in bathroom and tried to get myself hard but couldn't. came back out and eventually cried about how much i loved her or some gay shit. we eventually would frick a lot but i got bored of her.
17 and it felt like 70. Guys in my peer group were having sex in middle school
I was 24, she immediately realized that it was my first time and that I had no idea what I was doing and she started laughing at me.
But later she was cool and all and we talked about it later, and I had to lie about the reason I was so late.
I told her that I was sexually abused when I was little and I always felt awkard with other people, and then she started crying and started petting me like a pet.
I broke up with her soon after
>lied about being an abused problematic guy
>in that way proving to be an actual sociopath
>I broke up with her soon after
Not surprised
Like 19, I too thought I was late as frick but looking back 19 ain't bad. I don't remember the chick's name, just that she was married, had a kid, and had the fattest ass of any girl I've smashed and was a contender for fattest ass I've seen. Frick man, I would do some dirty ass shit to a woman like that now but back then it was a quick pump and dump that was kind of awkward because it was with some chick I didn't know lol.
I remember calling my brother who never had trouble with girls to let him know I finally got some puss. The conversation went something like, him: ".... it isn't as great as they make it seem, huh?"
Me: ".... nah... not really." Lol
I mean, it's fun but not really what you expect. I finally understood why everyone claimed that getting head was better.
29. Less than a month before I turned 30. Currently I'm 32.
14, first kiss and first frick within an hour of each other. Holes was on in the background so her lesbian mom wouldn't hear us in the next room. I was bad and I remember not enjoying the smell kek
I lost mine at 27 to a girl I met via online dating. She had been with a couple guys before. After a few months she broke up with me to be with another guy. The relationship was pretty good while it lasted, but I see it as kind of a lucky fluke. That was about two years ago and I don't think I'm ever going to be in another relationship as long as I live. I know I've disappointed my older family members, all of whom are married with kids, as they expect their "handsome" grandson/nephew/son/cousin to get married like everyone else. It's basically impossible to explain how impossible women are and the whole subsequent incel thing to boomers, gen-xers and other normies.
I am a KHHV, but I do know somebody who lost his virginity at 13 to his 12 year old girlfriend
Was pretty close to it at 17 with my first gf (she wanted it, I was too nervous to put on a condom, would lose my erection out of anxiety). We broke up before I could do it right, and it really fricked up my confidence for the next two years.
I finally lost it at 19 to my second gf. She was great. Made me feel comfortable. We took our time. We were ok for about a year. After that relationship ended, I was right back at my performance anxiety.
I am now on my 30s and I’m doing well, but oh boy, it was a struggle to finally feel comfortable with it for good.
My advice to anyone feeling like that is expose yourself to experiences as much as possible. Be honest about your insecurities. It really only gets easier with practice. And yes, it’s fricking worth it.
I blew my chance when I was a freshman in HS. I'm still a young man(20) but I know that I'm past my sexual prime and will have to settle for less as time goes on
>I'm past my sexual prime
>20
Wtf are you talking about zoomie? Your testicles just dropped
This, sexual prime isn't like a 2 year thing in high school. No idea where this meme came from. I'e gotten laid only twice (18 and 25) and both times were just as good. I'm almost 30 and can still coom twice a day most days of the week. Sexual prowess does drop off but not for a while. If you're healthy and a little lucky you can keep it going until like 40 or more.
It's too late to get in on the ground floor the women I will be able to date without going to prison will have already been with 2 other partners at a minimum.
>without going to prison
It's good to be an eurogay sometimes. At least I can imagine to frick prime pussy (not gonna happen anyway, but at least I can dream unlike you)
You're still a kid, quit your b***hing
I was 15 on a school trip to Europe. Nutted almost instantly.
made it halfway between third and home at 20... been stuck between since my then-girlfriend left me... i'm turning 38 this spring
14
27, about to be 28, and still a virgin
20 but I'm basically a virgin again because I'm on a six year dry streak.
On my 17th birthday on the back of a four wheeler in a prairie behind a lake, then on the ground in the field.
Shit was so cash.
She was 15
15, she was 17. I'm not sure why but it was very difficult for me to get it in, like trying to insert your key in the door after 100 shots of whiskey. Did it in my childhood room while my dad was at work. Very unromantic and awkward first time for me 🙁
it aint happening.
yeah I always say in 40YOV threads, Andy would've been the height of cool in a couple years.
16 for your boi
6
Were you molested?
32 ;_;
Same, 22 but it was with a younger women with double gs and was 5'1". Thus my shortstack preference.
37, still virgin. But i care a lot less as years go by.
17 with the caveat that it was the one and only time until I was 25. Also I didn't even coom the first time.
19 to a Japanese girl who was staying with family for a month. Haven't had sex since the ten or so times I fricked her
21, could have been earlier too.
I fricked a fat chick, like the kind that doesn't have breasts or ass, just blob.
The thing is, after that my confidence went tru the ruff ironically. I only had to tell her I wanted to frick to get laid. Then I retroactively went back to the girls I could have been with before, just flirted a little then asked if they wanted to frick, and we did.
Shit was cash.
I'm 32 now and sex is boring now.
Cpould not get made today.
.>main character has to throw away his action figures
This is mainstream approved now, BUY THE TOYS
Should I just get a hooker, boys?
>t. 20yo khhv
Don't do this if you have even the smallest sense of romance, you'll feel like you gave away a heirloom to a gypsy for cents
I haven't had sex since 2021
I think that after not getting laid for at least a year, you're basically a virgin again
I agree. After a year, you're back to being an incel.
Just book a trip to TJ.
>Got the job
>Got the house
>31
>Virgin
>no friends
>no social life
>Just spend every weekend drinking untill i pass out in my front room
I love you, and all the other broken virgins on Cinemaphile.
>first things he says are job and house
money isnt everything. i bet based on everything else you're an autistic engineer or programmer huh?
Real talk. What are you gonna do if you make it to 40 a virgin?
same shit i'm doing now, only 9 years from now. i'm damned either way, i am not what women want.
Only ever basically had sex for real with my highschool/college girlfriend ever since then it's been prostitutes
I am 29 years old and I never even kissed a girl
literally me, i'm so fricking estranged from it all
if it makes you guys feel better I hate my girlfriend and would rather go back to being a single loser. you guys arent missing anything
It doesn't. Thanks for nothing. Go frick your hot girlfriend while I fantasize about it.
>Go frick your hot girlfriend
No, I'd rather shitpost on Cinemaphile or play vidya than do that.
It doesn’t and you wouldn’t otherwise you’d cut it off. But you need her, and you can’t handle being alone.
I just keep her around because she contributes to bills and cooks. I just don't like it when she asks to hang out or spend time together. I made her start sleeping in a different room.
One of every three mfs with girlfriends tell you this. You simply have a poor judgment.
Only 29? You're not even a wizard yet. Try again in a year, poser.
Same except I'm 28. I'm so starved for affection that I've fallen in love with Hailee Steinfeld. Over several years I developed a fantasy in my head that really felt like we were in a several year long relationship.
Lost it at 26 then immediately after women started coming out of the woodwork all wanting to frick. It's like they can sense it or something. I did get a decent confidence boost but otherwise acted more or less the same around women. Now that the mystery and novelty are both gone years later I have 0 desire to have anything to do with women, which is a huge fricking weight off my shoulders after romanticizing the idea for the first 25 years of my life.
I'm mad I fumbled wizardhood. Gooch just ain't worth it my niggies.
I think this film was propganda. He had a comfy life even as a 40 year old virgin. I am 19 non virgin and have a worse life than him
>like bags, of sand
I am ugly and autistic, I just can't connect with people as I feel like an alien. Felt like an outsider ever since preschool so I just learned to live with myself. The good thing is that I'm a misanthropic schizoid so I spend most of my time alone.
literally me, except I'm not really ugly
I'm 21 but i give zero fricks about being a virgin or having sex and idk if thats a bad thing or not. At my age I should have a prime libido like the rest of my peers but I'm like "whatever"
I kinda want to get my life together first (Good job, home, car, etc) before I think about actively pursuing woman.
>I kinda want to get my life together first
Idk man, you'll need some confidence for that and when you'll find yourself amongst people talking about fricking this and that you'll feel dead inside and start sweating in terror, secretly praying for them to change subject
Do you really want to be a careercel?
There's definitely a huge part of me that feels like I should care, I don't want to wait until its too late to the point where the dating market becomes single mothers and mental-asylum tier crazies.
It's just the idea of hookups and short-term girlfriends is extremely off putting to me, The idea of doing something as sacred as sex with someone I have no connection to just sounds like a waste of time and somewhat dangerous depending on the woman. If I ever get horny i could just watch porn at the click of a button (trying to nofap though lmao).
I guess I'd be more interested in SEXO if i was with a woman I was truly in love with. Out of all of my female peers I've only fallen in love with one and she rejected me (Which actually kinda set me on the le "self-improvement before babes" path)
>It's just the idea of hookups and short-term girlfriends
You don't have to sleep around like a prostitute anon. I'd say try to approach girls while you are working on the career. Don't follow the coomer path, and DON'T isolate yourself from the world. That's my main problem, avoiding social scenarios. Just don't do that and you'll be fine I guess. Also, you'll be 30 without even noticing
>That's my main problem, avoiding social scenarios.
Same, and whenever I actually do hang out it's just with the bros.
Maybe joining clubs n stuff would be a good idea for me to get more social involvement since I'm going to university in a few months
During my last job I used to go to the pub with some young coworkers, obviously feeling forced and terrified. At the end of the day it could be fun even if they're normies, and you'll see that girls are more open to engage with you in such situations. Sadly our autistic nature tries to avoid that, and you'll initially feel out of place, almost acting and scared every time they invite you to go outside. It's tough but must be done. For me it's probably too late, but you sound like you have the balls to make it
i guess the problem a lot of guys have is knowing if a woman is just being nice or is genuinely interested in you. you can ruin relationships by being too forward with girls by misinterpreting signals. i've done that, a girl was just being friendly, i asked her out and she ghosted me
I have that problem too, actually. But the cause is the same. Malfuctioning brain
You guys should just give up. Thats what I did. I'm not happier for it but I have more money. Unless women DM or chase you (and they do this to guys the actually want) you should just drop out of the rat race of dating.
can't give up if you never started in the first place
My problem is I can't even try. I don't spend money, I don't get on dates, I don't get rejected. I don't even know if girls are attracted because I hardly see their signals and never investigate out of fear. I'm just blocked in my mental prison. Actually, thinking about it, some girls showed some signals, and I'm still asking to myself if they were really trying to approach me or if it's my wishful thinking.
>and I'm still asking to myself if they were really trying to approach me or if it's my wishful thinking.
honestly if you have to think about it, they weren't sending you signals. when it happens, you KNOW.
>when it happens, you KNOW
So the "signals" you are talking about are just them straight telling you to frick or them raping you on the spot? Because that's the only thing I can KNOW for sure, and never happened of course
>when it happens, you KNOW.
you're underestimating how oblivious young guys, especially Cinemaphile autists, can be.
One time in early 20s, a girl I knew from high school was lying in my lap, then asked me to take a bath. that is an obvious signal.
maybe your crotch smelled like piss
>then asked me to take a bath
Context? A bath together or what?
Btw I'm 30 and I still can't figure this shit out, and the less experience you gain the less you'll understand it.
She just happened to be an older friends housemate, so the 3 of us went out for pizza and beer, and then she started lying on me (and we had gotten along well that day). Said she had a crush on me in high school, but we never talked then. Asked if I wanted to take a bath, and fortunately, unlike some other times, I took the opportunity. She had a great body, fricked all night. My follow up after this was poor, so no more fricking her after that
Nice anecdote, but not every girl will be this straightforward, especially if she's not a close friend. So my doubts about their signals are still there. I know the only way to be sure is to try, but I just can't
>but not every girl will be this straightforward
of course. I'm decent looking, and we had been drinking, so I sort of just lucked out here. I certainly wasn't using game. You have to learn about their body language, and a big part of her signal will be if she's got a big smile, looking right in your eyes. Unless it's part of her job to smile at you, this is a very good signal she'd like to talk more, maybe go on a date.
>cute coworker few years younger than me
>eye contact and smiles even from a distance in a room full of people
>laughed at jokes
>told me I'm very smart
>asked me about my work schedules to know if they were matching with hers
Other case
>more younger coworker
>laughs at jokes and straight said she finds me funny
>asked me if I was gay because I don't comment on girls
>asked me if I was a virgin and when I jockingly told her "yes, I'm waiting to marry first", she laughed it off saying it's impossible for me to still be a virgin. I didn't insist on the subject and just smiled like "you got me"
>seated near me and hugged me during party
>weird sexual subtext during all this shit, but I can't put my finger on it (maybe I'm allucinating?)
>she asked "when we go drink something?" a few times, but never did anything (my fault for not insisting of course)
I mean, looking at this signals could be obvious for an expert eye, but I'm still ruminating about them. The last girl in particular, were those the so called "shit tests" or she actually thought I was a gay? Maybe she sensed some strange behaviour and was just curious. Or she wanted a gay friend? I felt she was more likely trying to find a frickbuddy but who knows.
The first girl was too good to be true, so I don't believe it to be real, just wishful thinking
2nd girl wants the D anon. Go for drinks then bring her back to one of your places and get physical
I think it's too late, but who knows. You proved my point though, it's hard to understand those tricks until you analise them all together after some time, and even then you're still full of doubts
It's all just a shit test. Women are basically kind of nice to everyone. They just want to see which alphas and Chads are bold enough to ask them out. A lot of the stuff they say men shouldn't do (cold approach) they don't really care about. It's all just a labyrinth of hoops, filters, and tests.
that shit makes my brain melt and i have no patience for it
We need to just go back to having war brides, arranged marriages, and concubines. Even as a weak beta male Chud my chances of getting laid would be higher via a bronze age moral framework than this current nightmare.
I avoided woman like the plague back in the day so I have zero idea how to manage any of this shit. The only way I could conceivably get a woman to be interested in me was if I was obscenely wealthy
Women don't either. Occasionally, women will make tinder accounts "disguised" as men to prove that straight guys are just dumb or out of touch with women and then they are genuinely shocked at how difficult it is to even maintain a conversation.
It's hilarious how utterly blind women are to their own behavior
>Occasionally, women will make tinder accounts "disguised" as men to prove that straight guys are just dumb or out of touch with women and then they are genuinely shocked at how difficult it is to even maintain a conversation.
That women have to do this instead of just thinking about all the times they ignore a man hitting on them ( or even a hypothetical of what it would take for her to even consider a man) is evidence they are lacking in self awareness.
Yup, here is the link I was thinking of. Keep in mind about half of relationships start online.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8370535/Woman-creates-fake-Tinder-profile-man-assumes-easy-dates.html
HR is making it more and more difficult every year to approach women. Families are getting smaller. People are reporting fewer friends. Bars and public places are opting for ladies only nights more and more and are also becoming much more likely to kick out "unwanted" males. College and even higher-ed are the same as work in terms of approaching unless you are an athlete or a gorgeous guy. Women just aren't going to church anymore. Is the human race just going to go extinct or lose half its population or something? How is this supposed to turn around at all? The only solution anyone ever gives is that men just need to "do better". From Jordan Peterson to the churches to the radical feminists who hate Jordan Peterson and churches I here the same line "men need to do better". As long as we abide by the notion that women's standards are't too high, men just aren't living up to them this won't get better but no one irl can blame women for anything.
>Is the human race just going to go extinct or lose half its population or something?
Worse; the people that don't care for social etiquette are reproducing because they ignore the rules and still succeed in numbers higher than the people who do follow the etiquette.
So not only is the human population going to collapse, but what remains is going to be made up of barbarians.
Idiocracy
You have to remember - men women aren't attracted to literally don't even fricking mentally register with them. They can't remember because those men are the closest neurological equivalent to being invisible to them.
It's okay. Covid lockdowns and tinder have turned zoomer girls into autists too. The only people trying to flirt at bars are the millenioomers doing it 15 years ago.
>Covid lockdowns and tinder have turned zoomer girls into autists too
More like into onlyfans and tinder ethots. The bar was just an example of meeting with someone and not closing yourself in your room like I do. You'll not frick there, but it's one way to keep in touch with the normie way of life
>I kinda want to get my life together first (Good job, home, car
beleive me anon, all those financial things will TOTALLY make women want you
>lost my virginity at 29
>haven't had sex in the ~4 years since then
Kinda wish I didn't lose it so I could be a wizard for the memes.
My plan is to lose it after the wizard diploma and then never bother again
Daily reminder the incel criss (and basically all modern social problems)is the fault of women and feminism.
In the rich nations women were granted freedom starting in the late 19th century and progressively earned all the same rights as men by the mid 20th century. The developing nations were only a few decades behind. The net impact has been the complete collapse of the family and birthrates across much of the world. Places with the highest birthrates are the least feminized and vice versa.
Billionaires fought over this, what chance do you have, incel?
Yeah. The world wars and a few million men dying so women couldn't be picky delayed the trend of collapsing fertility from the 1900s by a few decades.
I wonder which brand of ~~*marxism*~~ pushed for that kind of feminism...
Why do you disingenous homosexuals always cut off that survey data at 2018 instead of showing the actual numbers?
>Why do you disingenous
Projection
Those are completely different you moron.
is no sex since 18, under age of 30
The one you posted sexlessness in the past year.
>Those are completely different you moron.
It's the same fricking survey. Learn how to read.
>It's the same fricking survey. Learn how to read.
share of men under age 30 who report zero female sex partners since they turned 18
>% sexless in past year
Then why not use the same survey to cover the years since 2018? Why change the survey methods and try to pass it off as covering the same thing?
If someone has had sex in the last year, then they have also had sex since they've turned 18. I guess with the exception of 18 year olds, but "sexless since turning 18" is also pretty irrelevant for 18 year olds. So that means the "sexless since turning 18" data also peaked in 2018. This would be obvious if you thought about it for a few seconds.
I agree. There's no way a 40 year old virgin would be that happy and optimistic.
Time to ignore my girlfriend for another night, get drunk, order take out and rewatch movies I've already seen a bunch of times.
>29 khv
>18 year old tomboy hispanic girl at work keeps flirting with me
what do i do anons
ask her: "Do you want to coooom?"
i'd rather ask her on a proper date but the age difference makes me nervous
Yeah, you may end up having a talk with HR, assuming your place of work has one.
is she a casual person, in a casual type job? Just ask her for coffee/lunch.
i work in a kitchen. i'm her supervisor. conflict of interest there.
Are you really this desperate? Jesus Christ, have some dignity.
guess its a bad idea then kek
it's a terrible idea unless you don't care about you job in which case go ahead
it worked for my two buddies from the same workplace that met their girlfriends there
>secretly slip mexican hot sauce into allergic customer dish
>she's fired for that by your superiors
>call her afterwards, telling her how bad you feel and that you think her being fired was an injustice
>profit
kek were so short staffed nobody is ever getting fired. frickin kids come in on shrooms hallucinating and they don't get fired. i could beat someone to death with a frying pan and i wouldn't get fired
Then what's the problem? frick her on the kitchen counter
Virginity secured
Women are the eternal gatekeepers of sex. Only enforced monogamy can save us.
Just six more years until obtaining the most powerful relic known to mortal man.
How many of you guys are Latinx?
I'm a fat manlet Chud and I have a cute girlfriend who I treat like shit. The anon that posted about their tests is completely right because they want you to not be a doormat. I made my gf like me even more by trying to get her to hate me by ignoring her, yelling at her and hitting her.
The fact that the men feminists hate the most (Trump, Tate) basically do nothing but get laid and have multiple kids to multiple women who voluntarily slept with them makes the believability of these posts super high. Personality is pretty close to being a meme.
I don't have a reason to lie on an anonymous Uzbekistan bread making imageboard. Women don't even know what they want most of the time, there's a reason they'll say they want some beta who treats them nice and then they stay with a guy who gives them a black eye and forces them to sleep on the couch because they threw a temper tantrum. Women should be treated like children or exotic pets because mentally they are.
I’m so frickin horny dudes.
Just turned 28, only had a online relationship and it honestly feels like shit bros. Have had a unusual life, moving between two countries, couldnt speak the language for a while which lead to social withdrawal. I think Im reasonably attractive and probably not autistic, but Im not normie either. Have been working towards ambitious/risky goals my entire 20s and Im nowhere near where I want to be with them yet, everything got delayed by constant roadblocks so Im not well off with money/career. Feel like no one would want to date me in my current situation but nearing 30 as a virgin feels like shit. Then again I also feel like getting laid is just a shitty peer pressure and I should probably just keep focusing on myself and my goals.
I feel the peer pressure thing. If women didn't validate men based on their sexual prowess and mock virginity our world would be a much better place.
it=over
https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill
I think the ideal is to have a ruthless side of yourself but use it for good. You need to be able to show women you're not a doormat and capable of destruction, but you don't need to be a total dick about it either. Being dark triad is just often a really easy way to activate that primal attraction in women.
I've never understood the whole "jerk off so much you can't get it up for a real women" meme.
I jerk off almost every day and I'm still unbearably horny and pop random stiffys all the fricking time.
Does being in front of a girl for the first time effect you that much?
>t. 28yr virgin
>I've never understood the whole "jerk off so much you can't get it up for a real women" meme.
How OLD are you,though?
The only reason to have sex, and I mean LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON, is that fricking without a condom on feels pretty great. Nothing else about sex is even remotely enjoyable, not the stupid foreplay, not the cuddling, I don't even particularly enjoy getting my dick sucked anymore. I'd rather eat a burrito and watch American Dad and be left the frick alone. No, I'm not going to marry you. No, you're not going to trick me into getting you pregnant(I've had a few women really try hard with that one), and no, you're not coming to live with me in my big empty house.
>my big empty house.
For one thing, it's my fricking house. For another thing, I like it big and empty, and lastly you're a fricking bore. Women are for the most part IMMENSELY boring. No, I'm not interested in hearing about your stupid day. No, I don't care what Sarah the intern said about your hair. No, I don't FRICKING CARE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE FEELING TODAY
Kind of similar to my situation but in my case becoming a dad at 14 put me off sex for almost 20 years. I didn't sleep with anyone until earlier this year at 33. The virgin gets put off sex from jizzing his pants his first time, but I became put off from it out of fear of getting someone pregnant. I became a pariah overnight once news got out that I was gonna be a father. As if I had committed a horrible crime. I think it might have given me some type of trauma
I'm just completely autistic when it comes to women
I've got to the point where lack of female affection is turning me into a horrible person.
I'm such a bitter c**t now.
>28 years old
>simping for a girl long distance I've never met
Am I moronic for saving my virginity for her?
>tfw gay and don't ever have to deal with women
>get to have equally autistic buddy that comes with fricking
Feels good
I just broke up with my girlfriend of four years and I feel fricking great.
>dude sex isn't a big deal once you have it you'll realize it doesn't change anything
>YOU'RE A FRICKING SOCIAL GENETIC FREAK IF YOU'RE A VIRGIN PAST 25
So which is it?
decide for yourself homosexual. don't let other people influence how you feel.
Just lie to people (normies do it all the time)
It really doesn't change much and nobody thinks you're a freak if you're a virgin past 25, nobody even knows or cares. If anything, you'll just look back and realize how dumb it was to stress so much over being a virgin
>nobody thinks you're a freak if you're a virgin past 25
LOL
Why lie to the poor guy?
Seriously. They aren’t going to openly mock you but they’ll express their unease at your lack of sexual inexperience in other ways.
>28
>still handholdless virgin
>most i've ever had is a couple awkward dates
I've never been on a date ever
I’m only 19 but this will definitely be me in 21 years
im a kissless virgin at 32, ive never even made an attempt to have sex or even ask a girl on a date. once i got to the age where people start actively trying to get in relationships late middle school and start of high school is when i became a social outcast, and since i was a social outcast there was no opportunity or reason for me to try to ask out girls. then i got to college and was still a loser so hid even more, and i stayed a complete loser since.
im so ashamed and humiliated about how worthless my life is that the thought of even having a conversation with another person and revealing anything about my pathetic life fills me with utter dread. i could never even go so far as to making a dating app profile or even talking to a woman. i take the subway every day and always see some cute girls or women on it, including women who get on/off at my very own home stop, and im still too afraid to talk to anyone.
it never even began for me and its already over.
I'm almost the same anon, do you have a job?
yes, its pathetic and humiliating and i want to hide even that
yes im realistic thank you
its not specifically just women though, its all people. just mentioned women because thats the thread topic
>its pathetic and humiliating
You're not doing it for free I hope
> 32
>it never even began for me and its already over.
at least you have a firm grasp on the truth
they're just women, dude. get a fricking grip. I broke up with my girlfriend on Christmas because I couldn't take her shit anymore
Its over
Stop gaslighting me about how sex is real.
It's the damndest thing. Every minute of every day, naked people are inside rooms and they rub their genitals against each other in adult ways. It happens constantly, all the time, and all the adults are aware that it's a normal activity for adults in general. Adults plan their conversations with each other around this reality, and its downstream effects. It's a very strange phenomenon that sex is real.
nobody here believes you.
I can scarcely believe it myself but all evidence points towards it. I attended a BDSM event at age 28 and I saw a real live woman's vegana for the first time ever. It was in a private residence.
For some reason, I get a weird sense of identity from not fricking and feel zero shame or embarrassment when telling people it's been 15 years since I had a "gf" (lasted one week in high school). I feel unique in how I'm a relatively normal guy that just doesn't care about not getting pussy, and I genuinely feel like a weird cool outsider when telling people I work with I haven't had sex since I was 15. If I was just a normal everyday cookiecutter schlub scraping up busted wageslave pussy every once in a while I would actually feel worse than being a young guy who's just 'too cool to frick'. Plus, it helps that I'm pornosexual and can only get sexual gratification from edging to BBW ebony twerk videos for an hour a day.
>had sex at 15 like a disgusting normie
>gets sexual gratification from edging to BBW ebony twerk videos for an hour a day
>is proud of all that
Most unbased post ever
When I see guys chasing cooze it’s just so pathetic to me.
It depends how far you are willing to drop your dignity.
Most guys pay for dirty prostitutes, some guys get ugly fat b***hes whose appearance would make a normal person barf.
I had a fat girl, but i left her after several months, and then moved.
And ever since then i couldn't move past the disgust i felt with myself.
Most people maybe can, i can't.
I will no longer drop myself to that level.
It's sorta like when you know stove is hot, but you touch it, and you get a burn scar forever on your hand/body.
Some lessons are best learned the hard way.
All i can tell people is, hey you probably shouldn't touch the stove with bare hand.
Don't do it.
But people are free to make choices, it might be hard to learn if you don't make a mistake.
I had the luck or misfortune of my first time being with a late-20s Mexican woman with a gymthot body. It's hard to lower your standards after a great first time.
Unfortunately, she was a divorcee and just wanted a fling.
I haven't had sex with my girlfriend in like eight months. I'm just going to dump her and find a new one at this point.
>eight months
Is she pregnant? Just another month
No, I just don't like her.
Why not?
Man I miss old-school OC like this. Imagine the wojak variant we'd get nowadays...
I thought about commenting on its dated (about 15 years!) status earlier but the basic norm/expectation is still basically the same. the only thing that's changed as of now is that the aware public understands that it's much harder for young men to get laid and so maybe lay off of them a bit.. It's war. They want a war to get rid of the surplus men. Don't let them use this tactic. Refuse to fight. Force women to accept inferior and dysgenic seed for the higher purpose of species-wide stability.
>harder for young men to get laid and so maybe lay off of them a bit..
why?
>They should make a remake, and name it 50 (or 60)-year-old virgin.
remake implies he WILL get laid. that's not whats gonna happen for any of you
>remake implies he WILL get laid
How many remakes you've seen recently that stayed true to original?
>How many remakes you've seen recently that stayed true to original?
reboot
pathetic loser with anime doll. end with protagonist cutting dick off
Because there is some real understanding in the population at this point that it's a serious sociological problem at this point. It's not a joke, "haha you loser Have Sex/Touch Grass/Unserious Reply" is flippant. I've been around real chads who understand this by now.
40 is the cusp when there's a ray of hope left, and look how that turned out for him. The main character was unironically worse off at the end of the picture than at the beginning. Posing the same problem at a much later age is simply too depressing and can't be turned into the romcom angle as they did in the picture.
>Reply" is flippant.
so what?
if the runts of the pack aren't eating/having sex......the pack only gets stronger.
its YOUR OWN FAULT if you're not getting laid.
you don't need the Federal government to step in. You don't need legislation. You don't need to be spoonfed how to breathe to keep you alive
YOU NEED to learn what it takes to be a MAN
YOU NEED to learn how to develop social skills and quit respecting women
>you don't need the Federal government to step in. You don't need legislation. You don't need to be spoonfed how to breathe to keep you alive
Naw. American women are extraordinarily unreasonable. I can get laid off Tinder in Western Europe with reasonably attractive women that wouldn't give me the time of day in the US. Bri'ish and German women are just as liberal and feminist as American women; their expectations aren't as stratospheric and moronic and they're better at not getting obese in their 20s.
>American women are extraordinarily unreasonable.
so now we're blaming women instead of men that can't get laid?
the issue was
> men can't get laid
now we're moving to
> women are shit so we can't start families
which is it?
Men not getting laid = severely socially stunted schizo manchildren
Women being shit = this has always been true. TAME THE c**t
>so now we're blaming women instead of men that can't get laid?
Yes, that's the whole point. You are correct that men need to learn confidence, assert themselves, make the first move and so on, but these healthy attitudes and behaviors are becoming less effective in the current pathological (because woman-governed) environment. Women are empowered to do whatever they want, all the time, with something approaching impunity.
>Women are empowered to do whatever they want, all the time, with something approaching impunity.
women "power" is as real as the woman action hero
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BE ASSERTIVE
Again, this is a dishonest reply because it ignores state power and the microphysics of how a woman feels at some given moment when an unattractive man tries something. Still, there's a kernel of honesty: just fricking do something. The trick for the individual man is to plan the right way.
That video appears to contain black people so I didn't look at it.
>so now we're blaming wome
Yes. I didn't magically change by going to Europe; I didn't even change my dating profile's language, The only variable that changed was the women. This was Western Europe; it's not like I was going to Poland like all those "Oi bruv, pay me 1000 quid for my daygame bootcamp" British losers.
American women are the problem.
>American women are the problem.
So what are you gonna do about it?
I'm 50.
I get 22-28 yo pussy on the regular.
WHY?
because "western men' are massive homosexuals that do not lead, do not inspire confidence, do not have anything going for them, are effeminate, are b***h made punks and get streamrolled at the sight of any trouble/conflict
SKILL ISSUE
picrel
>So what are you gonna do about it?
Take sabbatical in Europe in the next year or two. That's the straightforward and obvious path to success.
>I get 22-28 yo pussy on the regular.
Yeah, because you pay for prostitutes it in a poor country like Romania or Thailand like all the other Gen X masculinity gurus. The only respectable thing about you is that you scam jeets out of their pocket change for your Hustler University or Pickup Coaching Zoom Call.
>I'm 50
Now it's clear. You just grew up in the old world boomer. When women acted as women and you just proposed yourself to them.
you can't understand what I wrote here because you had to deal with a functioning society, not the shit you booms left to us. Go frick yourself granpa
>>I'm 50
>Now it's clear. You just grew up in the old world boomer.
your coomadled brain mustve missed the part where I pickup 20-somethings on the regular because men their age are queers like all those in this thread.
THEY ALL ARE LONGING FOR A MASCULINE PRESENCE IN THEIR LIVES TO LEAD
doesn't matter the age because all women are children
BE A KING & YOU'LL BE TREATED LIKE ONE
>your coomadled brain mustve missed the part where I pickup 20-somethings on the regular because men their age are queers like all those in this thread.
You forgot about the part where you give them $500 in free coke and MDMA, like all the other Gen X burnouts. Wow, real impressive.
You gonna post the video of sticking dildos up your ass like all the other Gen X redpill morons. Jack Murphy and Gavin McInnes did it. Now that's ALPA.
>doesn't matter the age because all women are children
Wise words but these virgins will ignore your post and hate you because you speak the truth.
The Xoomers are full of shit. When you look at how those PUA and masculinity and redpill Gen Xers were getting pussy, it was inevitably because they had an in they were omitting (DJ, brought the drugs, etc), were prostitutemongering overseas or in poor countries, or were just lying and making shit up (Fat Forney)
>PUA and masculinity
there is a massive difference between
> pick up lines (chasing/appealling to women emotions)
and
> being a self-interested man, devoted to your own personal evolution to greatness
the latter is a never ending quest to run TOWARDS friction / conflict to make yourself better
Frick off, moron. All the coke has addled your brain so much you've lost your reading comprehension.
max reply nose dive
this thread and its hilarious "NO SOLUTION" cope all because manchildren refuse to GROW UP
>NO SOLUTION" cope
Actually ther is a solution. Complete restoration of pre-1968 society
>There's something wrong with American women. when I've went to Europe, and Western Europe, I don't have the same difficulties I do in the US.
>No dude, it's the grind. You lack hustle; that's why things change by going to Europe. It couldn't be a American women.
You either are running interference for landwhales that think they deserve Chads because you're a moron. Or the coke has limited your mental faculties. Which is it, Xoomer?
dont care about your skill issue cope.
move to fricking Khazikstan for all the frick I care if thats the only twat you can pull, homosexual
>Have sex. Wait, not like that.
Enjoy your heart attack, cokehead.
>Enjoy
enjoy monklife you no pussy getting homosexual zero skill homosexual . play some more vidya gaymes. im sure its helping
I've had sex without paying for it. Which is more than your Roissy regurgitating geriatric, gen X self can say. Book another trip to Manila. Have another drink. Do another line.
>I've had sex
>"western men' are massive homosexuals that do not lead, do not inspire confidence, do not have anything going for them, are effeminate, are b***h made punks and get streamrolled at the sight of any trouble/conflict
ITT. proven right.
"its everyone elses fault/problem" except me, the one with the role/responsibility for change.
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homosexualS
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based and checked, I don't feel any sympathy for these betas
>Force women to accept inferior and dysgenic seed for the higher purpose of species-wide stability.
its a skill issue. get gud
women are still having sex, believe me.
you want
> no penis left behind theory
because you incels are sexually moronic
War would only make things worse, realistically. Part of why the American South is a shithole is because most bloodlines worth a damn ended in the Civil War. The men left were the infirm, the stupid, and cowards - and the region was a backwater for the next 100 years.
They should make a remake, and name it 50 (or 60)-year-old virgin.
I just turned 38 and haven't even held a hand or been in a date. It could be worse. You get used to it, sort of.
How do you avoid people talking about sex?
lol I just rapidly steer the conversation elsewhere
This is weird and they'll start suspecting something. Maybe thinking you're gay
well no shit. both my parents have already asked me if I'm gay lol
Why the frick someone not being overtly sexual has to be a wienerlover? What's the connection in the normie mind?
they see no other reason why somebody would not be overtly sexual other than being a wienerlover
But that's nonsense since gays are the most overtly sexual beings on earth. They shove their sexual orientation in your face and even build their whole personality on it
I guess they see it more as someone who is struggling with their sexuality and is in the closet
>someone is struggling with his sexuality and in the closet
>I'll ask him if he's gay straight on his face
>that will surely help
Fricking normies I swear
>haven't even held a hand or been in a date.
pussy on the pedestal
actually its not that its
> being a total pussy in life
you don't pursue anything. You wait for manna from heaven and never attack what you want. this is why you're starving
No, I am fine with it and don't see vegana as some great thing. I'm alright with pursuing my creative passions and just helping my family now, since they're all good people and married and could use the help in rough times to come. Least I can do is be sure they're happy and leave some decent creative work behind. I asked girls out the last two years too. None of them went for it or changed their mind before meeting. Most of them initiated it themselves even. One was a morbidly obese israeli girl and obviously had BPD, and still turned me down right before meeting. Not even really upset at them, except for not telling me at the start and wasting time I could've spent on something else.
Some guys just have a hard go of it. If I put vegana on a pedestal I would have killed myself by now. Or maybe paid for it to fill the void, but I know that won't help.
Why would you avoid it? I just listen to their stories about women and joke like the rest. I also don't lie when asked if I'm a virgin either. The worst thing you can do when you're older is bear it like some cross in front of others. Just take the banter, banter back, and go back to watching the dumb action movie with the lads drunk.
Are you Latinx?
I'm a Black.
>listen to sex stories
>never tell sex stories
>normies start to think you're gay (never understood why since you're not talking about dicks either) or figure out that you're a virgin
>if you confirm it they'll secretly consider you a subhuman forever
>if you make shit up they probably find out anyway but with some doubts about it (the gay thing returns)
I don't see any good outcome here. I'm younger than you and everytime people brings the sex subject in the conversation I panic inside (even worse if they are younger than me)
Stop caring what they think. My best friend of 20 years still jokes about it to me to this day and he's a normalgay. Then I bust his balls about the fact with all the kids he has he'll never have a quiet moment in his life again. He'll always be on the edge of panic trying to provide for them and fighting off the new dystopia constantly trying to turn them all queer. Both paths have their tribulations.
I understand your pensiveness and anxiety, I was very much like that too all through high school and much of my twenties. It all comes from fear of being judged by people you don't even really respect anyway. What I learned is you're going to die one day so who cares if they know your pee-pee is always dry, and that most normal people in social situations aren't going to challenge you beyond a joke or two anyway.
In place of sex stories I tell disgusting sex jokes. I'm creative enough and I've seen enough porn and naked ladies to do so; laughter often disables sincerity in casual conversations, and they'll not care you haven't got your dick wet if you're in good spirits and humor. Some might even try to help, it's just the guys I know can only help by paying a prostitute to do it so I never take the offer.
The problem isn't about not let them know you're not having sex, but that you're a mental disabled person. The fact they propose to help is even worse, I'd probably feel more humiliated by that than being made fun of
You're obviously not mentally disabled, friend. Otherwise you wouldn't be having this lucid conversation with me on this dying imageboard. Not having sex doesn't mean you can't function within society. Does it make you awkward and angry? Probably, but you're still capable of human function and care. Sex doesn't make them better than you, especially when some of these guys are eating the runny veganas of morbidly obese women on an overdose of SSRIs and Instagram while their mulatto child cries in the next room. All because they think it WON'T make them look as bad as you which is delusional. Pussy doesn't make anyone better or special.
My words are probably just like an annoying ringing in your ear, and you won't change your mind most likely, but don't let them psyche you out of life's desires and passions just because they got an STI and you haven't.
>Pussy doesn't make anyone better or special.
THIS
most important
however, as men, we are biologically programmed to hump legs...most of the time. If, in your teens, you weren't pussy craved, then you have zero testosterone.
Men are programmed in our DNA to frick, cum, screw, hump....all day long. Its a natural urge. Don't let society suppress that. Is okay, its healthy, enjoy it.
If you're under 40 and aren't horny most of the day.....get your T-levels checked because being depressed and uninspired is not normal
Of course we're not moronic. But we have a mental issue indeed. And people thinking you're a weirdo isn't good, even if they hide their true feelings on it
Everyone has mental issues now. I guarantee when and if you do try to date, you will quickly discover that the majority of women are walking DSM manuals nowadays. This gets worse the older you wait to try, and after trying at 37 and not really caring anymore that I'll die celibate, I assure you part of that is because of the instability in girls nowadays. If you think being an old virgin is a red flag, wait until you meet some of the women willing to settle for an old virgin.
Not having dumped a load in a woman that'll never love you, or having anxiety about talking to others, is the least of the crazy that is out there. Take pride in the fact you even have some self-awareness about your circumstances, and address it as you see fit. There are many things in life that is not pussy that can at least help you cope and find some minor since of fulfillment. In some cases more so than women ever could. Don't let it devour you so quickly.
Being a wine addicted cat lady and an older virgin are comparable issues under society's eyes. Both are shameful, both proving you failed in an important aspect of your life. The stigma is more painful than the issue itself
I don't understand why the people you don't even really want the respect of, and you have even probably ran to this corner of the internet to escape, has any say in the matter of your worth as a man. If you're trying your best, living a healthy life and helping those you care for, then their opinions are meaningless. If it is a stigma in their eyes then they aren't worth your time to worry about. And you can function fine in society without pussy, albeit begrudgingly and frustrated, but still you can get things done for yourself and the ones in your life who do give a damn.
Our formerly pleasant society and its good faith in its fellow man turned to dust a long time ago, and our generations just have to suffer the aftermath. You only need to care as much as getting a job if you need one. Beyond that strive for something more than yielding favorable opinions of single mothers and male feminists with troony wives, because those are the types who enable a stigma upon awkward men just not able to find love. If those are the types normalgays are okay with and willing to enable and approve of, then who cares what they and society think?
>My words are probably just like an annoying ringing in your ear, and you won't change your mind most likely
Not at all, it was a pleasure
>but don't let them psyche you out of life's desires and passions just because they got an STI and you haven't.
The sad thing is being aware that you'll never completely fulfill those life desires and passions knowing you'll be forever alone
>never attack what you want.
Not him but we're not talking about attacking. It's about humiliating yourself in front of another person, exposing your inner desires to the judgement of the girl and risking to be ridiculed for that. At least that's what blocks me.
>It's about humiliating yourself in front of another person,
you're the moron, then
As a MAN, you don't fricking chase a woman. You pursue women. If ONE doesn't want you, who cares, you're fishing for dozens.
QUIT trying to reason with 'women' like men. They arent men. They are children. LEAD and TAKE what you want. Don't apologize, don't ever ask. Quit being weak....
None of this is possible to fake. YOU are a weak man, thats why this very basic, extremely simple thing escapes you. YOU aren't forceful enough in life. You are so scared of offending others or looking silly and being insecure you never accomplish anything
SKILL ISSUE
you want to blame women because you run from every conflict, especially the life lessons telling you that you have to put in work
>looking silly
This is the deal actually. I don't want to look silly. And I confirm it. What other people think is all you are. You exist in their eyes. If everyone thinks you're a retatd, you can have Isaac Newton's IQ and still be a retatd. With that I'm not saying you should follow what other people say you should do, but have some dignity in what you do. Chasing skirts like a beggar (because that's what you're doing no matter what bullshit tell yourself) isn't helping your reputation
>Chasing skirts like a beggar
desperately trying to 'lure' pussy like some groomer is weak shit. You BE you. Thats all you have to do. When you LEAD, followers chase/join you. Thats what a MAN exudes
If a guy fawns over a girl with attention, adoration, appealing to her sense of favor.....he's already lost any leverage. This is why men cannot devote their attention to just ONE woman at a time. Just do YOUR thing....the women will naturally come to you
Your kind of gay, courage wolf-tier rhetoric might work on impressionable young men. I’ve interacted with doughy, effeminate, poor, weed-addled dorks most my life and they have sex. Why? Not because they’re masculine but because sex is something everyone wants and they just badger women until they get it. They are not tough, or courageous, or alpha or whatever. They are like kids whining to their mother about wanting ice cream or some shit. There is no shame or discipline they just operate off their id.
>just badger women until they get it.
lol.....
that has to be incredibly frustrating and massively disappointing for whatever roastie is in the habit of dolling out sympathy lays
>be me
>have zero standards at all when it comes to women
>find, conservatively, 90% of girls and women between the ages of teenage years through their 30s, and honestly probably the 40s, to be somewhat cute or attractive
>doesn't matter their race or weight (as long as not obese), in fact I even find chubby woemnti be more desirable to me because they usually have bigger breasts and fat ass and wide hips, even ethnic girls I like more
>should have no problem getting any girls
>social avoidance makes me completely avoid talking to people altogether
its an abstract feel
>somewhat cute or attractive
Yeah, but can you imagine fricking them? Because I noticed that despite finding some pleasing particular, not every girl would make it for me. Sometines it feels weird, sometimes not enough attraction. Try to visualize the sensation of holding them between your arms and french kiss them (especilally this is a good indicator) in detail
i have zero imagination to go off of because i dont know how anything feels
>i dont know how anything feels
Neither do I, but closely looking at a girl should give you an idea. Do you have the impulse to french kiss her? Some girls are almost repulsive by that point of view
It could just be me but people are always telling me how easier it was to get laid before dating apps made women pursue the top 10 percent of men. In my friend group, nobody has gotten laid recently except the one guy with a girlfriend though that was his only person.
>t. 22 year old virgin, hopeful for 2024
people basically say the complete opposite with this
>some people say its easier than ever because of the easy access to profiles
>some people say its harder than ever because girls wont meet up from the phone, have a billion options at the same time, etc
>boomers had it easy because ww2 veteran daddy spoiled their asses
>hey fellow boomers, this easy mode society looks too bigot, let's destroy it
>look at this feminism instead!
>*actually destroy it and push feminism*
>left their kids grew up like savages in their utopia world in ruins
>"you kids are spoiled and weak"
>want a gf? Just attack!
>no! not like that racist sexist incel!!!
Are they for real
Women are objectively worse than in men pumping and dumping people. Like it's so fricking bad, you just can't get a stable relationship as a guy because girls chase new wieners
Pic rel was released 12 years ago and is already outdated. What happened man?
For all you whining about "western women" being too hard.
Yes, they are shit and do FRONT the masquerade of being judmental or whatever.
HOWEVER, they KNOW this doesn't work for them. THey KNOW they carry too much masculine energy. They WANT to be feminine....this shit kills them inside and they are fully aware of it. If you're a MAN, you can instantly expose this nerve and OWN THEM. They actually want to surrender to a man and be a 'woman'. They won't be worthy of it right away so you have to break them down.
I'm pointing this out because you incels scared to death of assertive women in the west are scared of a paper tiger boogeyman. It isn't real.
The real and only problem - the root cause - is YOU not being a man, though. Pussy can be had easily (paid or otherwise) but pussy, itself, isn't the ANSWER. What is causing you frustration is trying to make yourself fit into a well adjusted beta male role. it doesn't fit.
erase that beta programming and get on a self improvement path that is ONLY about you improving as a self reliant MAN
Yes yes anon, all guys below 45 should pay more taxes and die in stupid wars, they should also enable prostitutes!
>I'm pointing this out because you incels scared to death of assertive women in the west are scared of a paper tiger boogeyman. It isn't real.
American women are uniquely obstinate. Canadian white chicks weren't nearly as stuck up. Nor Brits, nor Germans. All of those are way more feminist than American women, but are way more realistic on average.
I'm a fat manlet with a cute girlfriend and this thread reminds me of Elliot Roger complaining about pajeets in old hondas getting gfs while he drove a bmw and couldn't even talk to them
>this thread reminds me of Elliot Roger
No way Sherlock
Just talk to her, bro.
Your mom?
Any woman, I have faith in you. God bless.
>I have faith in you.
I don't tho. Your mom is safe for now
I just turned 38 and I'm a virgin. In the last few months my libido has went kaput. It's been distressful for me because I really enjoyed watching porn. Now, nothing turns me on. I am pretty sure the culprit is low testosterone. My bad habits and sedentary lifestyle, along with my age have finally caught up with me. I'm going to have to make many positive changes in my life to get my sexual drive back. I'd really like to experience sex for hedonistic reasons. I can't help but wonder what it would be like after two weeks of abstaining from from masturbation to pop 50mg of Adderall, smoke a couple bowls, and bury my face in some hot girls ass. I should save up for some meth and a high class escort for a night.
>the culprit is low testosterone
WORKOUT, of course
but also get some testosterone
naps.org
>WORKOUT
Doesn't physical activity lowers testosterone?
>Doesn't physical activity lowers testosterone?
the opposite, morono
I looked it up and you're the moron. Cardio reduces testosterone levels, while high intensity workouts increase them
>Cardio reduces testosterone levels
WHO THE FRICK IS TALKING ABOUT DOING CARDIO???????????????
fricking dummy
Physical avtivity means everything mongoloid, be more precise next time
>Physical avtivity means everything
i wrote
> WORKING OUT
nobody consideres 'cardio' "working out", dunce
no wonder this thread is full of no pussy homosexuals
You think riding a bike is "working out"
ahahaahahahah
joing the party
>
>after 2000
Jokes on you, it's at least 1990
>it's at least 1990
yikes