>”nonono we HAVE to show the genocide otherwise the audience just won’t get it!”
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>nonono we HAVE to show the genocide otherwise the audience just wont get it!
>”nonono we HAVE to show the genocide otherwise the audience just won’t get it!”
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Goes a bit against the whole "finding out you've been in a coma for 100 years and piecing together your past" thing, don't it?
Yeah, that was supposed to be the scary and tragic part for Aang. He spends a couple days with Katara and Sokka telling him that the air nomads are extinct, but he just doesn’t believe them and fully thinks he’s gonna find his family in that temple, just maybe all 100 years older. And then he arrives and not even their descendants are left, his entire culture is gone.
Kinda takes the punch out if you let him have watched them die.
did i misread the tweet? it doesn't say aang witnesses it directly, but maybe they said so in an article?
What's the point showing it to the audience but having the main character be stuck in a mystery for a while?
depends when they show it, maybe we see aang finding gyatso and the flashes to the genocide.
for all we know it's a 1 minute scene the marketers prop up because they're desperate to get people to talk about the show.
i still think it's a lame idea as discussed in the thread, but so far there's no hint it's gonna be THAT bad. granted i wouldn't be surprised if it was, everything about this remake reeks of "we followed the show 1:1 to make our thing, but since we didn't understand it we made several moronic changes"
>maybe we see aang finding gyatso and the flashes to the genocide.
Which would be simplistic and overstated.
The academic answer would be dramatic irony.
The real answer is big boom boom go funny ha ha ha super cinema bux
subtly is dead, nothing can be inferred anymore. If something like 12 angry men was made, you'd see the whole court case before seeing the men argue
This show seems unintelligent. Like it's written by and for stupid people. It's lowering the bar set by an actual children's show.
Avatar has been a dead series since the last episode airedand everyone asked why aang didn't just kill the firelord. Probably even before that. People only want to 'make it work' outo f nostalgia for 2005 or whenever this dumb shit aired and the fact every post-main series movie, show, comic book, game etc. has been a terrible flop. Imagine some 22yo nerd in 2005 and he's watching this because he's a fricking dork while in college jerking off to how comics and cartoons will finally defeat anime or whatever. Now imagine nearly 20 years have passed and he's 41 and he's determined to make this shit work now that he's working for netflix or whatever. That's the vibe from this dumb series. All the endless millennials trying to MAKE IT WORK for 20 years, refusing to throw in the towel.
t. watched the series in 2005 as a kid.
>Like it's written by and for stupid people
It's a live action remake, of course it is. They had to shoe-horn in Garp and Coby to give exposition in LA One Piece because the only way midwit writers know how to drive a story is via exposition characters. They literally have no concept of show, don't tell.
That's pretty much all modern writing. It's why everything got so bad
No shit. Read threads here, people have no media literacy anymore. They have to spell things out or some moron is gonna take it the wrong way
I blame this image, specifically.
I, also, blame stuff like that, but probably not the way you do. Subtext exists and writers use subtext. Readers can't understand it because of our ADHD lifestyles and the loud push that education and educators are bad.
>ADHD lifestyles
It means attention deficit and hyperactivity disorders. I didn't realize you weren't diagnosed. No healthcare?
tldr
That was exactly my point, lmao. I set up the bar for you to go under it but you walked face first into it
Didn’t they show it in the show? Monk Gyatso’s corpse was pretty fricking prominent.
Anon they're saying they're going to show the actual event happening, not the just the results. You idiot.
Awfully defensive aren’t we?
It COULD work if they hold off showing it until Aang finds Gyatso, he looks around room with standard-cinema flashes of dudes getting slammed against walls or shooting fire or whatever, ending with a full flashback scene showing the monks wrecking shit for a bit before getting overwhelmed and showing Gyatso suffocate everyone, then Aang goes into the Avatar State.
Could be a cool way to give the monks a bit more screentime for the viewers to check them out and spicing up the fairly-slow season 1 that might turn off some normies otherwise.
If they show it at any point earlier than that, or drag it out into a big expensive fight with subplots and so-on, I'll be mad.
Nah, they showed the aftermath, Gyatso dead in a room full of dead FN soldiers he probably suffocated.
The live action show wants to show the actual fight itself, monks blasting FN soldiers, nomad children getting burned to death, fire and air blasts shooting everywhere, that kind of thing, turning a "wait, what? That amulet looks famil- oh frick, Gyatso!" moment for both the viewer and for Aang into a straight-up war scene with probably a lot less impact and far less subtlety.
I don't think showing the monks fighting back is really the best idea. For all the criticism the finale got; Aang's pacifism was ultimately something he got from the Air Nomads. It makes the Fire Nation look more monstrous if the invasion is a slaughter and Gyatso is the only one that gets pushed so far that he abandons his teachings and starts suffocating people.
If I don't see all the air nomads die, how will I know Aang is the last airbender.
Okay wait
I am so confused
They remove Sokka's sexist arc where he realizes that being sexist is bad but they wanna show the murders of innocent people to show how evil the bad guys are.
Do they wanna be inoffensive people or not??
anon, you are such a neanderthal. get with the times! the right thing to do is whatever they didn't do in the past.
>They remove Sokka's sexist arc where he realizes that being sexist is bad but they wanna show the murders of innocent people to show how evil the bad guys are.
They realized that they don't want internet chuds seething about how sexism is actually le good because katara is the biggest b***h in the universe.
Being sexist is worse than genocide according to feminism.
>kill millions every year on a whim
it's consistent
Feminists killed millions every year on a whim?
Since when? Not even trying to be snarky I just wanna know
It's an abortion joke
Indirectly, through anti-male propaganda and false rape claims causing men to commit suicide
The writers maintain the concept of sin but without a concept of redemption. Once you do something bad, you're bad period.
"Committing genocide" and "being sexist" are both sinful acts in this moral framework. That one sin is vastly worse than the other doesn't matter to the writers, because a character CANNOT be a hero once tainted by sin.
In other words, it's like that joke about finding shit on your sandwich. It doesn't matter whether the restaurant is serving you a BLT with a full turd lodged in there or just a little speck of brown smeared on the bread. The sandwich is ruined.
>The writers maintain the concept of sin but without a concept of redemption. Once you do something bad, you're bad period.
Considering Zhao and Zuko are attacking Kyoshi Island at the same time, I wonder if they are going to downplay Zuko's evilness.
That'll be a tell for the show as a whole.
My guess (given the sexism thing with Sokka) would be that they offload the destruction and people threatening to Zhao, and give Zuko more of a laser-focus on Aang. He's an antagonist but not a "bad guy" like Zhao. Maybe throw in a bit where Zuko tries to rein in Zhao or defends the Kyoshi Islanders.
Zuko is a good guy from the beginning now.
>air ~~*nomads*~~ still pretending there was a genocide
>there could exist in-universe schizos and conspiracy theories about the Avatar and the rest of the world
>considering the Dai Li was keeping knowledge of the war a secret and brainwashing citizens, it may have some merit
Is it bad that now I want to see more posts like this?
>twitter thread
I hope from the bottom of my pitch-black heart that this series is the most atrocious adaptation ever made, and that it has zutara replace the canon pairing. I want those frickers to bleed.
also this. But hey whatever feeds the rage machine.
What, worse than the previous live action remake?
The focus is clearly on the news, quit being such a spaz over nothing. Don't shoot the messenger and all that.
genocide scenes are good, but sexism?
nao nao amigao
all the stupid changes this shit was revealed to have recently and THIS is what you decided was thread worthy? frick you op
avatar (live action) threads are the lowest form of conversation
What changes are there other than removing Sokka's sexism?
Azula being added to S1 and using a bow to attack
Tried to get into the show but the constant "safe for young kids" humor is corny and grating
>"safe for young kids" humor is corny and grating
Get a load of this bozo that doesn't like corny kids humor in a kids show. You just blow in from stupid town?
>You just blow in from stupid town?
Yes, ironically we have much higher standards for comedy.
>they still think there was a genocide
Frick off, seeing how Gyatso took those fire benders to the grave with him is epic and you're all boring morons
I wonder if they are going adapt the Lost Adventures comic in which Zhao explains the Sozin's Comet attack on the temples didn't get everyone and so they set up traps to hunt down any remaining survivors?
>Stayed alive through the genocide
>Most likely died a spinster before Aang returned because she stayed away from people
I know she's not actually canon, but she's fun.
>NOOOO
>We can't have Sokka be sexist and then mature and grow as a person through his interactions with strong women!
>That's so problematic in [current year!]
>but we totally have to show a buch of peaceful monks being burnt alive by the Fire Nation...
>BECAUSE WE JUST DO OKAY??
Live action remakes are always a mistake.
>I'm the last of the Time Lords, Rose. My people all died in a war...
>Here's a 20-minute clip show of what that war looked like just so the audience understands.
>Also, ignore the fact that it was a war heavily featuring time travel; most of it was people running around with guns and shooting each other, as we've shown. There were a lot of explosions.
Everyone knows that weaponized time travel looks like people shooting each other and WWI bombers blowing up residential areas.
He needed a second season
You know for a medium (live action) and adaption that’s supposed to be way more “adult” and “mature” they really dumbed it down compared to a cartoon show meant for 10 year olds
What are you talking about you just tell the audience and sold them some evidence and they get it. I understood it as a kid in the cartoon.
Heah that’s dumb. The twist that the air nomads were wiped out after Aang fled was a huge emotional pack
Who will play Korra?
I hope the live action has hot water tribe girls
One on the right = sexo
Yeah, and Aang is laughing carefree by the next episode
Being aware of the Genocide is why there is a lot of footage of the holocaust.
Normalgays like the people who write 99% of TV shows are honestly more autistic than actual autists. They can't think that leaving things implied means the audience will get it because they're incapable of thinking that abstractly or subtly so everything has to be literal.