>NOOO PLEASE DONT OFFER ME A POSITION IN YOUR COMPANY WHERE I DONT HAVE TO WORK BUT GET ALL THE HEALTH BENEFITS!
>I DONT WANNA HAVE THE TIME AND RESOURCES TO FIGHT THE CANCER TOGETHER WITH MY FAMILY!
>STOP IT!
>I NEED TO COOK THE METH AND GET SHOT IN THE DESERT OR I'M GOING INSANE!
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I mean yes, Walter was moronic. The show never pretends otherwise.
Yeah I'm not sure what the point of this thread is.
The show beats us over the head with the fact that Walter threw away every single chance to get what he allegedly wanted because his ego couldn't take it.
yeah meanwhile walter worked decades as a lowly hs teacher and car washer while being belittled by his wife. his character makes no sense, either hes an egomaniac or a shy nerd, but they want us to believe its both
It makes perfect sense. Mild mannered embittered pussy finally snaps and goes too hard. Makes perfect sense
>Mild mannered embittered pussy
That was kind of the impression I got of Walt. Like he's "a nice guy" because he's too broken to be an butthole.
As opposed to, say, Gus who genuinely was a nice guy who did right by his employees, or Hank who was an butthole but knew how to be fun about it.
Yeah. It's a pretty common trope and real life personality arc
Just most guys like this IRL don't become meth manufacturers lol. They have some unhinged freak out and quit a job dramatically or something
It makes perfect sense though, there are people IRL who are just like that. He was always inwardly bitter and egotistical, those feelings just didn't manifest in his behavior because he lacked strength and confidence. He was cowardly and complacent. He found that strength when he became terminally ill.
Most people on this website rn are like that which is why I find it funny that everyone acts like they don't get it. I'm like that. Most of us are like that.
We just don't cook meth over it
It's the living embodiment of the chudjack meme. Someone who is outwardly meek and unassuming, not because they are genuinely kind-hearted and gentle, but because they lack the courage to stand up for themselves and will instead just seethe internally while getting walked all over.
Yeah
>stand up for themselves
yeah bro, don't like your job? just beat up your boss or add 1 hour to your comute bro , don't like the endless immigration in your country who make it 10 times worse? just destroy the state bro
morons like make me vomit homosexual
>don't like the endless immigration in your country who make it 10 times worse
Maybe take some personal responsibility for your own fricking problems instead of pawning them off on the classic scapegoats of israelites and poor people. People like you are literal vacuums of personal awareness, integrity, accountability or work ethic (not to mention walking HR nightmares) and if I had a business I would hire a damp sponge with googly eyes before I hired you.
To be fair israelites are evil and poor people are subhuman mental deficients that constantly vote agains their own interests. We desperately need to find a way to revive true democracy, i.e only allow landowning aristocratic men with a proper education control over the state and banish the disgusting peasantry back to the menial labor jobs that they are only good for.
>poor people are subhuman mental deficients
Spoken like a israelite.
>revive true democracy
Democracy is fake and gay in any form.
Athenian democracy was a step in the correct direction.
>foreigners have no political power and cant vote
>children of foreigners and their descendants up to the fifth generation cant vote
>women are kept as far away from politics as possible
The only fault was that poor athenians could vote and being shortsighted morons they always went after short term profits and anything that gave them immediate gratification, the future be damned. The US founding fathers improved this system by keeping the peasants in their place and not letting them vote. Unfortunately universal suffrage was implemented and the nation went into a state of terminal decline. After the serfs and other dregs of society got a hold of power, it was only a matter of time before women and foreigners got a hold of the mechanisms of state power. And here we are today, in the last era of a dying empire. It could have been wonderful.
The answer is National Socialism (benevolent authoritarianism). Always has been.
>simpsons jpg instead of an argument
I accept your concession.
Damn hit a nerve didn't I? I wasn't even passing judgment on that type of person. I was making a very specific point about a particular fictional character in a TV show and how his character arc is believable.
It was always a bit of both. His shyness kept his ego in check. Once he got cancer and started taking more risks because he was dying anyway, he began to really realize his worth when he made millions in the drug business. This made his ego start to spiral out of control.
People like this exist in real life.
I would know, I am one.
>petty narcissist but also cowardly
A daring synthesis
>his character makes no sense, either hes an egomaniac or a shy nerd, but they want us to believe its both
this website is literally fricking FILLED with this exact archetype
family life pacified him, he got a hot younger wife when he was still a young go getter then he had a moronic son and a job he was way overqualified for and it got him nothing but disrespect and eventually cancer so he decided to do what he wanted before he died
Its because at least its his, not someone 'charity' for better or worse
The show is modern version of a Greek Tragedy style story, and essentially follows that template to a T
He wanted to enjoy and experience life to the fullest. Unfortunately he thought that meant breaking every law and hurting people.
They imply at the end that Gretchen left him for Elliot and that’s why he bailed but they never flesh out the detail
that's the point of the show, Walt built Gray Matter but still left because Gretchen's dad was rich and he didn't want to be with her because he didn't want anything given to him
He left her because they were dating and they went to her parents' lake house for vacation and he couldn't take being a broke boi
morons on this board defend him nonstop
Because Walt did nothing wrong and knew what was most important in life: Being based and turning away everyone else's help and doing whatever it takes to get what you want.
He's not stupid but prideful, pride is a sin for a reason
It’s a prideful thing that men do. You wouldn’t get it
So true. That's why I'm in favor of gun control. I know a real man would step up and fight the intruder for his family.
>SHE IS ONLY 30 YEAR OLD YOU SICK FRICK
And people still thought Walter was a good guy
Name literally 1 (one) time that somebody on Cinemaphile defended this goon.
Oh my God, dude did you just get here? Literally every single day for the last 15 years there's been threads upon threads of people being hard Walter White apologists.
>you just don't get it do you
the series would have been finished in 2 episodes with that decision.
>moves to Canada
>gets free chemo
>the end
Always hilarious to read this stuff as an actual Canadian
To be fair, in 2008 the meme might have been true.
It’s true though, my dad recently died of cancer. They would’ve give him chemo if he wanted it
why did your dad not want chemo? I secretly want a way out of this life, i'm tired yo
The cancer he had is always terminal and the likelihood was that the chemo would have just made him feel worse for longer. Chemo is not quite the right term: it would’ve been immunotherapy of some kind, but close enough. Our medical system isn’t great but at least it doesn’t bankrupt people, or force them into cooking meth for that matter
Our medical system doesn't bankrupt people either as long as you're willing to destroy your credit
Fair enough I suppose, but I’m still grateful for the leaf way. It’s the least bad system we have
Don't they just offer to kill you instead? Or is that just reactionaries blowing it out of proportion?
They offer it but they don’t push it. Granted euthanasia is a touchy subject but don’t believe everything (anything) you read here
>Meanwhile, me, who's bankrupt because of our medical system
At least women get contraception for free, though! But I most certainly have to pay for my leg prosthetic and all of my medications. But worse, I have to pay massive amounts of taxes and higher cost of living, while my mom who lives in the states, pays a fraction for everything, including vastly superior and cheaper medical care
I am literally trying to flee this country to get American healthcare, I am so god damn sick of this stupid fricking meme
I’m sorry bro. I hope things get better for you
They will be, once I'm under the covers in the warm, inviting bed of the United States of America
Would
>septum piercing
Yuck
more like gets euthanized
>noooo, you must linger in pain until you “die naturally”
At some point a quick, peaceful death can be better than the alternative. Sucks yo
so why bring up walt getting chemo in canada if chemo is well known for bejng a painful experience?
The meme is meant to dab on American healthcare by pointing out how superior the Canadian system is, but really, it's just communists who want america to be communist. Or if you prefer less dramatic, people who want the state to have more power and control, and literally nothing good ever comes of this.
You do not want Canadian """""""healthcare"""""""
I am by no means attempting to argue the superiority of the Canadian system. As pointed out by another anon we pay out the ass for a lower quality of life generally because of our lame attempts at socialism, it’s just nice to not have to worry about having to take on personal debt to receive medical treatment
That’s a non-sequitor boss: chemo is unpleasant, potentially extremely unpleasant, regardless of where you’re receiving it
>>gets """free""" chemo
>moves to Canada
>gets visa denied because they know you only want the “free” healthcare
>continue to waste time and resources trying to immigrate while the cancer slowly kills you and your savings are depleted
>finally get approved on appeal
>Canada doctors just tell you to have a nice day because you’re probably terminal and they need to spend resources on brownies
>you don’t commit sudoku
>they just euthanize you instead
He wanted to live on his terms for once. It's fairly straightforward
It's even worse when you consider it really wasn't an offer to be in the company it was the guy basically going "yeah I wouldn't even have a company if it wasn't for you so rightfully half of it is yours"
Maybe would have accept if they didn't go all *hey Walt, buddy, we really need you to join our billion dollar company, we just can't get anything done without you, btw we have a great medical plan*. This coming 30 seconds after talking to Skylar.
They should have waited a few days and offer him a job without mentioning anything about health insurance, maybe claim they're stuck at some crystal shit and could use his expertise.
this
knowing walter he must have known that he wouldnt accept
incels act like Gretchen and Elliot "stole" the company from him, when Walt is the one who had a hissy fit and quit, he would have been welcomed back with open arms at any point in the past 20 years but Walt was committed to holding onto grudges for decades instead
he finally truly has become the breaking bad
>OFFER ME A POSITION IN YOUR COMPANY WHERE I DONT HAVE TO WORK BUT GET ALL THE HEALTH BENEFITS
I wish someone would do this to me.
>supposedly a chemistry genius
>teaches in high school
always bothered me
Yeah, he could've easily gotten a position at a pretty decent university.
Most of his work would've been "research" too, and when he did teach, it would've been students who actually wanted to be in the class, not highschool stoners.
high school lends to his situation being more hopeless and pathetic. It's convenient for the plot you goobers
>Uses "it was a plot convenience" to defend the plot
that's my point though. The plot is silly if you add realism, but its gotta be a 5 season series.
He would be the smartest guy in the entire school, it made him feel a bit better about himself.
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No no being a HS teacher makes sense.
Remember, walt would rather be the big fish in a little pond, than to work as equals with other geniuses.
Walt gave up his company because he's delusional.
He also felt that submitting himself to working underneath another company would have hurt his pride even more, since his would be peers would recognize who he was and never let him live it down.
He chose to be a high school chemistry teacher because nobody in his field would recognize him, and he'd get to enjoy being the smartest person in the building.
This is the fault of Walter. His core character flaw. He's a geniuses Savant but he won't make the right decisions that makes him lots of money. He'll make stupid decisions because he uses stupid nerd logic.
yes definitely also remembering how agitated he got by gale simply because he needs to be seen as "the smart one"
why didn't gale just become the heisenberg of coffee?
This is the stupidest take ITT. You do not understand Walt at all.
Did... Did you miss the scene where Walter says he did it because he wanted to?
>Did... Did
back to rddit.
Congrats you outed yourself as a newbie
>y..you're a newbie!
nice deflection, redditor.
1. I am not a redditor
2. You never denied that you're a newbie, so you are obviously new
3. This is more friendly advice, but maybe you should lurk a little moar before posting friend
>1. I am not a redditor
Yes you are
>2. You never denied that you're a newbie, so you are obviously new
That's some reddit logic right there. Next you'll say "You commented that means you care!!"
>3. This is more friendly advice, but maybe you should lurk a little moar before posting friend
I don't take advice from redditors.
>yes you are
No, I'm not. Would it make you feel better if I was?
>That's some reddit logic right there. Next you'll say "You commented that means you care!!"
You're clearly angry so obviously you do care
>I don't take advice from redditors.
Good, don't. maybe speak to a dietitian though
I said I don't take advice from redditors and here you are, still trying to give advice.
Here's advice to you, stop coming here after checking reddit
Oops, think I touched a nerve with that dietician comment didn't I?
Not as bad as Skylar
That pathetic handy in season 1 made me hate her the entire series
>finally got mom to watch BrBa with me and dad
>forgot about that scene
The midwit that wrote this series actually thought Walter's problem was health insurance when dealing with terminal cancer lmao.
>dude just work for a year before dying and you'll family will be set for life all you needed is your treatment getting paid by our company insurance something you already hve since you're a teacher for god knows how long
Proper tragic writing requires you to give your character an "out".
He believed he was better than that, his ego got the best of him
The amount he was making was way more than what that shithead could possibly offer
>wake up Timmy! We need to visit the doctor today in Canada, and that means lining up outside the clinic at 1am so you can reserve a spot for the day when they open at 8am
If you don't wait in line before the clinics open, you don't get seen that day, period
Emergency rooms have 24+ hour waits and people literally die waiting to get scene while a million smelly muslims and pajeets are all around you basically going there to get free cold medicine
I hate my countrymen. They're the dumbest people who've ever lived
you know whom the blame really belongs
Nah. This just further evidence to support my hatred of you, and the reasons for it.
keep adding clay to your golem moshe
*drools*
>The grand israeli conspiracy to flood every Israel-loving western nation with muslims who absolutely fricking despise israelites and Israel
To be fair we’re mostly being flooded with Hindus, sikhs and whatever bug beliefs the Chinese hold. Muslims are just an added bonus
>fighting age Muslims move farther away from Israel
>burden White host countries
>become westernized
>at worst harm some israelites accidentally while attacking a White target
>engender anti-Muslim sentiment among brainwashed Whites, because moronic slopfed idiots can only perceive immediate causes and not causal chains originating with the israelites that imported the problem
Yeah
its hilarious how stupid people here are. they vote for the conservatives, the conservatives stop construction of hospitals and slash budgets, doctors and nurses flee to greener pastures, then everyone, like the absolute frickiong SHEEP they are, complains about the healthcare system being broken and cheers when the politicians chop it up and sell it to the highest private bidder believing that will magically fix the situation, like cattle cheering their own slaughter
god i hate double digit IQ conservatives so much.
Yup.
Is this the absolute dumbest scene in television history?
don't care. I enjoyed it
What's good with Dumbo's ears
If Pablo Escobar was waiting for you in the living room and a laser suddenly appeared on your chest; would you really be so disinclined to believe it was a sniper?
depends. are they using military grade lasers?
You seriously think fricking Elliot and Gretchen Schwartz know the difference?
The machine gun in the boot of his car was more stupid imo
yeah, there were so many potential points of failure in that plan, but it was a set piece for the biggest emotional payoff of the show so I still enjoyed it
whats stupid about it?
its only dumb because you have autism
>entire thread of people not understanding walt or his motivations at all
>think it must be a board joke to pretend you don't understand
>remember Cinemaphile is just reddit+
I mean yeah what a silly billy goofball he was.
Walt's motivation is his ego. Anything else is nothing but justifications for deplorable behavior and/or headcanon.
He had various motivations throughout the show. Regarding the specific part of the show referenced by OP, yeah, it was his ego. But that doesn't mean ego = bad, or pride = bad. His refusal is understandable. Only a midwit soi would think it was stupid or bad writing.
You feel that sting? Thats pride fricking with you
cute milf
>i'm only 52 years old (m) you sick frick ™
he could've been part owner but instead he gets a pity position for the insurance