>modern movies just aren't color graded at all.
Why is this the case?
Is this why dvd, then blueray, releases get all sorts of weird superfluous color filters slapped on them for no fricking good reason?
With Green Lantern I'd just start off with him already on the job. He's basically a space cop with a "magic" ring I don't think you need much of an origin for that (maybe a brief flash back)
the main bad guy was a tad abstract really. Maybe just have it be hector hammond and use that as a set up for sinestro and hal to team up to stop him. The cgi looked bad even at the time
I can imagine that working with other heroes, but GL? The scene where he meets Abin Sur in his ship's wreck is iconic, and has a lot of kino potential.
I hated how they spent so little time in space, also at the beginning they kept introducing new characters at a breakneck pace. Sinestro was as perfect a casting as I've ever seen, the suits didn't look very good.
The director himself said otherwise. Johns started as a "creative consultant" but by that point he was already throwing his weight around trying to get more control over the DC productions. He wanted to be the DC's Kevin Feige and over time convinced a lot of WB execs that he could be just that.
>I doubt the guy who made Green Lantern popular again was behind making Parallax a cloud for example
The same guy fricked the first Suicide Squad movie, the Wonder Woman 84 movie, the Justice League movie, and so on.
His Green Lantern run also sucked. Peter Tomasi's Green Lantern Corps was much better.
Cooper would've been a beeeetter Hal Jordan than Reynolds (who should've played Wally West when the idea of a Flash movie was FIRST put into development in 2007, and Reynolds still was within one standard deviation of Van Wilder).
But really, ideal casting would've been probably Tom Cruise. Her definitely would never have done it then, and he wouldn't do it now plus he's too old.
But Hal's gayass personality traits boil down to being overlywienery to compensate for the death of his father, being a skilled pilot who flaunts the rules of the rules of institutions who he either respects or are a way by which he can show off his own talents, and then when the shit really hits the fan, Hal steps up and basically becomes Superman-level stalwart, brave, and selfsacrificing for, like, a day.
But Hal wasn't really that interesting of a character for the same reason Barry Allen was never all that interesting of a character--they missed the most character-developy age of comics b/c they were dead at the time because they were boring. And this is the period when their fandoms were about to cum their brains out for Jim Lee's shittyass X-Men #1 and Image comics and all the overedgy early 90's shlock.
Hal only even came back in the 00's b/c enough people, who were already oldgays back then, cried about remembering the 80's and early 90's. Like, frick off grandpa. Here's some more Ensure.
And I actually agree with you that the casting was a key point of failure for this film. Reynolds is perfect as a quippy anti-hero. He was sweet match for Deadpool.
The core problem with GL is that the power and the man are separate. Tony Stark's suit is HIS suit--he built it, he modifies it.
But GL's ring can be worn by endless beings so ultimately who wears it is less important than all the trippy stuff it can do--capture moons with a big green butterfly net or whatever. You'd need a truly amazing character to outshine a ring that create a giant green vacuum that can sweep the Asteroid Belt.
The younger Tom Cruise observation is spot on--he remade that whole "tyro sacrifices and becomes hero" thing film after film. With a reasonable script, fewer characters, more in space stuff, and a single, clear vision, a Cruise-led GL would have worked.
>capture moons with a big green butterfly net or whatever
A big part of why the GL mythos doesn't work as well anymore is the decision to ground him. Max GL used to be legit more powerful than Superman or J'onn.
GL:Rebirth through at least Sinestro Corps War was really effective in sort of democratizing the concept down to space copS. But you lose a lot of the mystique when you look at, say, Cooke's New Frontier. Or even a few panels of Alan Scott in Kingdom Come in his Emerald Fortress orbiting the Earth. Or when Kyle becomes the original Ion.
Never mind the Silver Age ring could do anything up to and including timetravel and matter manipulate unless you threw a Kraft's Single at Hal.
And not to be a powerlevel gay, but there is, IMO, a narrative add value in thinking of Hal as a man becoming a god that sets him apart from the rest of the JLA, as Supes is the god who became man. They should be peers with a wrinkle as Batman is the ultimate man and Diana is from the realm of the gods. Flash is OP af and can wreck any of them, but he just knows he has Speedforce and can deploy it like a very specific instrument during a surgery. But he's not all that interested in SSJGSSJ unless his family is threatened or the big cosmic thing is gonna kill the Earth, and he's gotta run 54quintillion times lightspeed.
Hal is in space all the fricking time with alien threats, cultures, living as a psuedo-Miracleman with 24 hours to go until the reup.
Read comics. Don't read bad comics. There are just bad characters to not touch. There are few good characters, but even most of the comics starring good characters are bad. Target fan-recommended and critically acclaimed books and runs, and you'll have a good time, Big 2 or not. Capeshit or not. And don't read shit that's too old unless you're in for it being really corny or lacking in some other modern-day sensibility.
What makes you think it isn't real? It's a pretty iconic part of Batman's origin.
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because that version looks pretty gay and too simple, I always thought he used the bat because he was scared of them as a kid, not resting in his office and suddenly a bat fies near him and say something like that
Fun fact: Batman has a greater will than both Superman or Hal Jordan
He's uncompromising. Which is why Batflek fails with his enlarged liver.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Fun fact: Batman has a greater will than both Superman or Hal Jordan
I know a Sinestro Corp ring offered itself to Batman for his profound ability to instill fear in others.
The villain is weird, gay, blows, and isn't like the comics or the then-recent reboot of the comics.
Ryan Reynolds is miscast.
Too much CGI too quickly.
Draws on shit in the lore that reeeeaaaally needed to not be in the origin movie. Really rushed.
Some of the designs for the alien Lanterns and Guardians are moronic.
Took the idea of a construct-uniform too seriously. The suit IS a construct, but the ring just makes it look like cloth, since the ring's hard-light construct generation powers are just a nerfed form of matter manipulation the Malthusians had access to.
Hated it when I saw it first. Dont hate it after a 2nd watch years later. Ryan Reynolds is annoying. Cooper would have been better but no one cares. Mark Strong was good as usual.
I saw this recently for the first time and it felt soooo dated, as if it was from 2007. I was expecting it to be contemporary because 2011 was just yesterday..
Just read Silver Age Vol. 1, Rebirth, then Rage of the Red Lanterns. I was gonna read Agent Orange after then do a 100% read of Blackest Night and the tie-ins, then on to Brightest Day and do the same, but it's all been so rad I've gone back to Sinestro Corp War. GL rules.
The movie is bad. Watched it twice in the last week and it's such a missed opportunity in most ways. I kinda like it still, because I'm a fricking moronic person, but it's super bland and dull.
I went and saw this theaters opening night and the day after. I appreciated it much more the second time. I was a pretty big GL fan at the time, having read much of the silver age and all of Rebirth-Blackest Night. I was looking forward to it restarting the DC film universe so I put a lot of hope into it. But it’s just doesn’t live up to it. There’s a lot of potential in the film but it just doesn’t balance the tones correctly and Blake Lively is a huge miscast. Wish we could’ve got a sequel that could’ve fixed problems and done more in space. I’m hopeful that the series will be decent. I remember Mark Wahlberg was almost cast as Guy Gardner.
>Our villain that's a giant space bug of fear? Make it a cloud of cg nonsense with Krona's head. >How can we make it a toy? Frick if I know, let Mattel deal with it.
Der coomer is the enemy he was just bad. Some of the setup was cool but the bad guy and the way he was fought was kinda gay. I know he was just learning his powers and stuff but still, felt lame as hell. I think if the enemy was cooler the gay use of his powers would be overlooked.
>all the aliens hate the human green lantern
didn't feel all that good. It has no sense of balance in itself. There's no anchor or "obi-wan" like character than Renyolds/Jordan believes in and believes in him. There's a smidge of it with Geoffrey Rush/Tomar, but not nearly enough. Plus the villain is full on power rangers. It doesn't lean into itself enough. The CGI mask is super distracting. 5/10 all the way, though, most capeshit is 5/10.... so idk.
I hate it because Reynolds. >takes mones for this >takes money for Wolverine >his agent later tells him people dislike them >"hey guys xD just want you to know that i always hated them both, don't you want to see me as a real Deadpool?"
I agree, Ryan comes off like he has no integrity as far as his capeshit history goes. He shit up >Blade 3 >RIPD >Wolverine >Green Lantern
by being a bobo generic Handsome Quipping Action Man and then pretends that being Ugly Quipping Action Man is some holy undertaking and that he's going to do justice to the franchise and fans, or some wieneramamie. He sincerely seems like a disingenuous c**t.
I remember at the time liking it better than Iron Man 2
Me too
Keyed
I remember liking it when I was a young lad
when he transforms his pp moves way up
When you gain that much power, mine would go up too
remember when even bad films were shot on film? that shot is gorgeous compared to the shit we get now
the medium isn't the problem. modern movies just aren't color graded at all.
>modern movies just aren't color graded at all.
Why is this the case?
Is this why dvd, then blueray, releases get all sorts of weird superfluous color filters slapped on them for no fricking good reason?
Audiences hadn't been groomed into watching terrible superhero films yet.
disney tells the cattle to dislike something so they dislike it
It’s not different at all from most MCU stuff I’ve seen. Comedic and over the top but similar template. This even did the post credits thing first!
Iron Man did the post credits thing first... in 2008.
constantine did it before GL for dc
I remember this being the coolest gif ever.
>shells and barrels aren't green
it's shit
>iron man but even more boring
If it had been Jon Stewart the movie would’ve been kino. Instead it’s that homosexual Hal.
stewart is boring as sin. even simon baz is more interesting than that stiff
>If it had been Kyle Rayner the movie would’ve been kino.
FTFY
(pre-Rebirth Kyle)
it was suppose to usther a new age in dc comic movies. but it didn't deliver
What DC movie has?
With Green Lantern I'd just start off with him already on the job. He's basically a space cop with a "magic" ring I don't think you need much of an origin for that (maybe a brief flash back)
the main bad guy was a tad abstract really. Maybe just have it be hector hammond and use that as a set up for sinestro and hal to team up to stop him. The cgi looked bad even at the time
I can imagine that working with other heroes, but GL? The scene where he meets Abin Sur in his ship's wreck is iconic, and has a lot of kino potential.
I hated how they spent so little time in space, also at the beginning they kept introducing new characters at a breakneck pace. Sinestro was as perfect a casting as I've ever seen, the suits didn't look very good.
Reminder that the movie production was being undermined and fricked by Geoff Johns.
Bullshit, Johns was just a creative consultant at that point.
The director himself said otherwise. Johns started as a "creative consultant" but by that point he was already throwing his weight around trying to get more control over the DC productions. He wanted to be the DC's Kevin Feige and over time convinced a lot of WB execs that he could be just that.
but you don't know what his stuff was
I doubt the guy who made Green Lantern popular again was behind making Parallax a cloud for example
>I doubt the guy who made Green Lantern popular again was behind making Parallax a cloud for example
The same guy fricked the first Suicide Squad movie, the Wonder Woman 84 movie, the Justice League movie, and so on.
His Green Lantern run also sucked. Peter Tomasi's Green Lantern Corps was much better.
>His Green Lantern run also sucked
Butthurt Teen Titans gay detected.
>The director himself said otherwise.
Prove it.
Micromanagers are the absolute bottom of the barrel worst people to be associated with
Cooper would've been a beeeetter Hal Jordan than Reynolds (who should've played Wally West when the idea of a Flash movie was FIRST put into development in 2007, and Reynolds still was within one standard deviation of Van Wilder).
But really, ideal casting would've been probably Tom Cruise. Her definitely would never have done it then, and he wouldn't do it now plus he's too old.
But Hal's gayass personality traits boil down to being overlywienery to compensate for the death of his father, being a skilled pilot who flaunts the rules of the rules of institutions who he either respects or are a way by which he can show off his own talents, and then when the shit really hits the fan, Hal steps up and basically becomes Superman-level stalwart, brave, and selfsacrificing for, like, a day.
But Hal wasn't really that interesting of a character for the same reason Barry Allen was never all that interesting of a character--they missed the most character-developy age of comics b/c they were dead at the time because they were boring. And this is the period when their fandoms were about to cum their brains out for Jim Lee's shittyass X-Men #1 and Image comics and all the overedgy early 90's shlock.
Hal only even came back in the 00's b/c enough people, who were already oldgays back then, cried about remembering the 80's and early 90's. Like, frick off grandpa. Here's some more Ensure.
Christ sonny, I remember GL from the 70's...
And I actually agree with you that the casting was a key point of failure for this film. Reynolds is perfect as a quippy anti-hero. He was sweet match for Deadpool.
The core problem with GL is that the power and the man are separate. Tony Stark's suit is HIS suit--he built it, he modifies it.
But GL's ring can be worn by endless beings so ultimately who wears it is less important than all the trippy stuff it can do--capture moons with a big green butterfly net or whatever. You'd need a truly amazing character to outshine a ring that create a giant green vacuum that can sweep the Asteroid Belt.
The younger Tom Cruise observation is spot on--he remade that whole "tyro sacrifices and becomes hero" thing film after film. With a reasonable script, fewer characters, more in space stuff, and a single, clear vision, a Cruise-led GL would have worked.
This one didn't.
>capture moons with a big green butterfly net or whatever
A big part of why the GL mythos doesn't work as well anymore is the decision to ground him. Max GL used to be legit more powerful than Superman or J'onn.
GL:Rebirth through at least Sinestro Corps War was really effective in sort of democratizing the concept down to space copS. But you lose a lot of the mystique when you look at, say, Cooke's New Frontier. Or even a few panels of Alan Scott in Kingdom Come in his Emerald Fortress orbiting the Earth. Or when Kyle becomes the original Ion.
Never mind the Silver Age ring could do anything up to and including timetravel and matter manipulate unless you threw a Kraft's Single at Hal.
And not to be a powerlevel gay, but there is, IMO, a narrative add value in thinking of Hal as a man becoming a god that sets him apart from the rest of the JLA, as Supes is the god who became man. They should be peers with a wrinkle as Batman is the ultimate man and Diana is from the realm of the gods. Flash is OP af and can wreck any of them, but he just knows he has Speedforce and can deploy it like a very specific instrument during a surgery. But he's not all that interested in SSJGSSJ unless his family is threatened or the big cosmic thing is gonna kill the Earth, and he's gotta run 54quintillion times lightspeed.
Hal is in space all the fricking time with alien threats, cultures, living as a psuedo-Miracleman with 24 hours to go until the reup.
>overedgy
Zoomer homosexual
i liked it, i would really like sequels
i know for a fact that Batman wears one of those rings at some point in the comics and i am HERE FOR THAT
>i know for a fact that Batman wears one of those rings at some point in the comics and i am HERE FOR THAT
For about 3 seconds
Damn. That was cool. Thx.
Read comics. Don't read bad comics. There are just bad characters to not touch. There are few good characters, but even most of the comics starring good characters are bad. Target fan-recommended and critically acclaimed books and runs, and you'll have a good time, Big 2 or not. Capeshit or not. And don't read shit that's too old unless you're in for it being really corny or lacking in some other modern-day sensibility.
>For about 3 seconds
he wields different versions of those rings and gets some varied experiences throughout the runs of comics
>Batman being a being of fear didn't make sense and was for toyz
niggggggaaaaaaaaa
is this real??
Detective Comics #33
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Detective-Comics-1937/Issue-33?id=5141
lol
How gay are comics
What makes you think it isn't real? It's a pretty iconic part of Batman's origin.
because that version looks pretty gay and too simple, I always thought he used the bat because he was scared of them as a kid, not resting in his office and suddenly a bat fies near him and say something like that
it's comics, you roll with the one you like best
Fun fact: Batman has a greater will than both Superman or Hal Jordan
He's uncompromising. Which is why Batflek fails with his enlarged liver.
>Fun fact: Batman has a greater will than both Superman or Hal Jordan
I know a Sinestro Corp ring offered itself to Batman for his profound ability to instill fear in others.
what the frick is that bottom left face about
capeshit is capeshit, but that is some great paneling
DC used to have good comics. Like more than a decade ago.
Before the dark times...before the gayenning.
>Didio is out but DC is still worse than ever
At least we can have reprints
>capeshit is capeshit
That's a comic, moron. Calling it capeshit is redundant.
Elseworlds did it first, plus flash supes and ww all put one on briefly. one shot was called in darkest knight
The villain is weird, gay, blows, and isn't like the comics or the then-recent reboot of the comics.
Ryan Reynolds is miscast.
Too much CGI too quickly.
Draws on shit in the lore that reeeeaaaally needed to not be in the origin movie. Really rushed.
Some of the designs for the alien Lanterns and Guardians are moronic.
Took the idea of a construct-uniform too seriously. The suit IS a construct, but the ring just makes it look like cloth, since the ring's hard-light construct generation powers are just a nerfed form of matter manipulation the Malthusians had access to.
>Extended cut
Are you fricking kidding me?
Hated it when I saw it first. Dont hate it after a 2nd watch years later. Ryan Reynolds is annoying. Cooper would have been better but no one cares. Mark Strong was good as usual.
ok movie, needs more jets
Agreed
I know, right?
I saw this recently for the first time and it felt soooo dated, as if it was from 2007. I was expecting it to be contemporary because 2011 was just yesterday..
it's low effort, full of any early 2000s superhero movie stereotypes bullshit.
Just read Silver Age Vol. 1, Rebirth, then Rage of the Red Lanterns. I was gonna read Agent Orange after then do a 100% read of Blackest Night and the tie-ins, then on to Brightest Day and do the same, but it's all been so rad I've gone back to Sinestro Corp War. GL rules.
The movie is bad. Watched it twice in the last week and it's such a missed opportunity in most ways. I kinda like it still, because I'm a fricking moronic person, but it's super bland and dull.
I went and saw this theaters opening night and the day after. I appreciated it much more the second time. I was a pretty big GL fan at the time, having read much of the silver age and all of Rebirth-Blackest Night. I was looking forward to it restarting the DC film universe so I put a lot of hope into it. But it’s just doesn’t live up to it. There’s a lot of potential in the film but it just doesn’t balance the tones correctly and Blake Lively is a huge miscast. Wish we could’ve got a sequel that could’ve fixed problems and done more in space. I’m hopeful that the series will be decent. I remember Mark Wahlberg was almost cast as Guy Gardner.
>Blake Lively is a huge miscast.
At least Reynolsbro hit it though
Because he tried to incorporate his goofy ahh marvel humor into DC KINO
>Supertroony
>kino
>Our villain that's a giant space bug of fear? Make it a cloud of cg nonsense with Krona's head.
>How can we make it a toy? Frick if I know, let Mattel deal with it.
Literally just how shitty the suit looked and how boring GL is as a character.
>i got superpowers just... well just because, okay?!?!
Der coomer is the enemy he was just bad. Some of the setup was cool but the bad guy and the way he was fought was kinda gay. I know he was just learning his powers and stuff but still, felt lame as hell. I think if the enemy was cooler the gay use of his powers would be overlooked.
>Why is it so hated
It came out back when people had standards
It's much better than the MCU
the quality of audience deteriorated massively
probably because of how actually accurate to comics it is.
>all the aliens hate the human green lantern
didn't feel all that good. It has no sense of balance in itself. There's no anchor or "obi-wan" like character than Renyolds/Jordan believes in and believes in him. There's a smidge of it with Geoffrey Rush/Tomar, but not nearly enough. Plus the villain is full on power rangers. It doesn't lean into itself enough. The CGI mask is super distracting. 5/10 all the way, though, most capeshit is 5/10.... so idk.
I've constructed my willpower in the form of a bump
They made Parallax like a fricking cloud of smoke with a head, just like Galactus from Silver Surfer movie.. giga moronic if you ask me..
>A sword? How human.
Kino
I hate it because Reynolds.
>takes mones for this
>takes money for Wolverine
>his agent later tells him people dislike them
>"hey guys xD just want you to know that i always hated them both, don't you want to see me as a real Deadpool?"
I agree, Ryan comes off like he has no integrity as far as his capeshit history goes. He shit up
>Blade 3
>RIPD
>Wolverine
>Green Lantern
by being a bobo generic Handsome Quipping Action Man and then pretends that being Ugly Quipping Action Man is some holy undertaking and that he's going to do justice to the franchise and fans, or some wieneramamie. He sincerely seems like a disingenuous c**t.