It was OK. Run of the mill stuff, but DC needed something great. Even with its' bump in production value you can still feel its' "direct to streaming" origins. It probably would have faired better just releasing on max.
Movie desperately needed Ted. Final act would have been great, seeing Kord suit up after years trying to save his protege. Family was annoying as frick, and the script was very heavy headed with the frick white people/support illegal immigration stuff. Villains sucked too.
But ignoring all of that? This movie was 10 years too late. It does nothing new, and is ultimately forgettable
yes that disney channel-esque movie was boring as shit
Real question for anyone who knew the character and I don't wanna make another thread.
Jo's accurate is it? And I don't mean the story, I mean in spirit. How does this version do Jaime and the suit and his powers and whatever fair in comparison to the comics?
Powers and look are pretty much what Jamie Blue Beetle is on paper. Movie does a piss poor job explaining the backstory of the scarab other than "Hey it's an alien superweapon we found and want to reverse engineer" completely neglecting the much more interesting story happening out in space or why it's on Earth in the first place.
Scarabs are weapons made by an alien race called The Reach, whom have clashed with The Green Lanterns on occasion (which should tell you how dangerous scarabs are). They send them out into space, the scarabs attach themselves to a native, and they decimate the planet in advance while the Reach armada travels to collect what they want. Only reason why Jamie's scarab doesn't do this is because it was damaged on arrival, and since scarabs are self-aware it had a change of heart.
Instead we just get this dumb shit where a corporation wants to do their best Iron Man script, and the alien weapon is just rolling with everything
Oh I see it. Now that you mention it the very first scene right before the title show up is a montage of a bunch of scarabs scattering around and the blue one that eventually finds Jaime hits a moon/meteor so that could be the moment when it got damaged. That could've had a voice over but it's kinda there.
What about Jaime's personality? Is he much too different too?
It was pretty straightforward, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It felt focused on the hero and his supporting cast. No setting up a larger world, spin-offs, or multiverse shit. The practical effects also hold up better than whatever they frick they were trying with The Flash. The villains were easily the weakest part. It's just Hillary Clinton as a corpo. Carapax gets an interesting backstory, but it's too little too late by the end.
That meteor is apparently supposed to symbolize that the scarab was damaged by a Green Lantern before landing on Earth.
It's the most trope-filled, predictable, by-the numbers capeshit I have seen in ages (and I have seen ALL of them). The Mexican family are cartoon characters in the worst way, and just when you think the plot can't dig the dumb hole deeper, it plunges down into an even dumber, less likely development.
It's less dull than The Marvels, a movie in which no one's story is advanced at all, but it is far, far dumber and tropey.
The movie attempts to throw every trope in the book against the wall.
Like I said earlier, it's a superhero film that would have been better received in the early . It's so fricking safe that you're actually annoyed by how well you can predict scenes
>Uncle can just throw together passive emp-jammers because >Granny was a revolutionary, so she can use gatling laser cannons just because! >Ted Kord can develop technology that makes Batman and Cyborg look like garbage (decades ago) just because!
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>Uncle can just throw together passive emp-jammers because
Nitpick because I'm an autist: Why is the security system based on a wireless network and not a hard local landline? >Granny was a revolutionary, so she can use gatling laser cannons just because!
Movie was oddly pro cartel and illegal immigration.... >Ted Kord can develop technology that makes Batman and Cyborg look like garbage (decades ago) just because!
TO BE FAIR Ted was studying one of the most advanced weapons in the known universe. Guardians of Oa will even admit that
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Yes but it fricks with the DCEU continuity (is this still DCEU?) to have guys in the 80's being active heroes with better tech than the Kryptonians in Man of Steel.
Movie desperately needed Ted. Final act would have been great, seeing Kord suit up after years trying to save his protege. Family was annoying as frick, and the script was very heavy headed with the frick white people/support illegal immigration stuff. Villains sucked too.
But ignoring all of that? This movie was 10 years too late. It does nothing new, and is ultimately forgettable
It's bad. It's slightly more coherent than The Flash, but it doesn't have any highs or lows, which makes it less memorable.
It also shares a problem with Black Adam: there is no economy to the scenes. These movies need to tone down the number of locations and things happening, in favor of fewer, longer, more carefully crafted ones. And all the stuff about family carry very little weight.
It has a rubbish, unimaginative plot driven by non-stop asspulls, and a cast hamming it up painfully hard. It's super derivative of a half dozen better superhero movies.
It's a bad movie.
Can we pause for a second and address the murder thing? Movie makes a big deal about Jaime not killing anyone with his scarab (particularly Carapax) and then his family just start murdering hired goons with Ted's inventions. Also I'm pretty sure Jaime killed one or two of them too with his "NON lethal" hammer fists. They're work for hire, not monsters. Also why the frick couldn't Jaime just say during the first Carapax fight "Can you give me something that won't kill him?!" to at least put up a fight?
In trying to be Iron-Venom-Man, it has the stupid Venom trope where "le corporation" can just send out heavily armed goons in the middle of the city to murder people in broad daylight, gotta love that stupid shit.
They have a throwaway line of "Kord owns the cops, yo" but frick you we're years past this trope. I'm glad I'm not the only one who called bullshit on the goons open firing outside a public building in the middle of the city. Also what the frick is this movie on about with "Kord and corporations always try to frick with us low class joes" thing? You people live in a shit ghetto, and apparently between the 6 of you you're unable to pay for a shitty home. Which again, you're illegal to begin with.
Yes but it fricks with the DCEU continuity (is this still DCEU?) to have guys in the 80's being active heroes with better tech than the Kryptonians in Man of Steel.
This was also a problem in Black Adam what with the JSA. They have given up trying to make this make sense
I mean Aquaman and Wonder Woman movies poked key holes in the plot beats of Man of Steel; it was only an Extended Universe in the flimsiest sense of the concept.
Did Miguel's b***h ass get kicked around?
It was OK. Run of the mill stuff, but DC needed something great. Even with its' bump in production value you can still feel its' "direct to streaming" origins. It probably would have faired better just releasing on max.
Real question for anyone who knew the character and I don't wanna make another thread.
Jo's accurate is it? And I don't mean the story, I mean in spirit. How does this version do Jaime and the suit and his powers and whatever fair in comparison to the comics?
Powers and look are pretty much what Jamie Blue Beetle is on paper. Movie does a piss poor job explaining the backstory of the scarab other than "Hey it's an alien superweapon we found and want to reverse engineer" completely neglecting the much more interesting story happening out in space or why it's on Earth in the first place.
Scarabs are weapons made by an alien race called The Reach, whom have clashed with The Green Lanterns on occasion (which should tell you how dangerous scarabs are). They send them out into space, the scarabs attach themselves to a native, and they decimate the planet in advance while the Reach armada travels to collect what they want. Only reason why Jamie's scarab doesn't do this is because it was damaged on arrival, and since scarabs are self-aware it had a change of heart.
Instead we just get this dumb shit where a corporation wants to do their best Iron Man script, and the alien weapon is just rolling with everything
Oh I see it. Now that you mention it the very first scene right before the title show up is a montage of a bunch of scarabs scattering around and the blue one that eventually finds Jaime hits a moon/meteor so that could be the moment when it got damaged. That could've had a voice over but it's kinda there.
What about Jaime's personality? Is he much too different too?
It was pretty straightforward, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It felt focused on the hero and his supporting cast. No setting up a larger world, spin-offs, or multiverse shit. The practical effects also hold up better than whatever they frick they were trying with The Flash. The villains were easily the weakest part. It's just Hillary Clinton as a corpo. Carapax gets an interesting backstory, but it's too little too late by the end.
That meteor is apparently supposed to symbolize that the scarab was damaged by a Green Lantern before landing on Earth.
>That meteor is apparently supposed to symbolize that the scarab was damaged by a Green Lantern before landing on Earth.
Them being so allergic to Green Lantern has fricked up things more than anything.
It's the most trope-filled, predictable, by-the numbers capeshit I have seen in ages (and I have seen ALL of them). The Mexican family are cartoon characters in the worst way, and just when you think the plot can't dig the dumb hole deeper, it plunges down into an even dumber, less likely development.
It's less dull than The Marvels, a movie in which no one's story is advanced at all, but it is far, far dumber and tropey.
Like I said earlier, it's a superhero film that would have been better received in the early . It's so fricking safe that you're actually annoyed by how well you can predict scenes
>Uncle can just throw together passive emp-jammers because
>Granny was a revolutionary, so she can use gatling laser cannons just because!
>Ted Kord can develop technology that makes Batman and Cyborg look like garbage (decades ago) just because!
>Uncle can just throw together passive emp-jammers because
Nitpick because I'm an autist: Why is the security system based on a wireless network and not a hard local landline?
>Granny was a revolutionary, so she can use gatling laser cannons just because!
Movie was oddly pro cartel and illegal immigration....
>Ted Kord can develop technology that makes Batman and Cyborg look like garbage (decades ago) just because!
TO BE FAIR Ted was studying one of the most advanced weapons in the known universe. Guardians of Oa will even admit that
Yes but it fricks with the DCEU continuity (is this still DCEU?) to have guys in the 80's being active heroes with better tech than the Kryptonians in Man of Steel.
Movie desperately needed Ted. Final act would have been great, seeing Kord suit up after years trying to save his protege. Family was annoying as frick, and the script was very heavy headed with the frick white people/support illegal immigration stuff. Villains sucked too.
But ignoring all of that? This movie was 10 years too late. It does nothing new, and is ultimately forgettable
yes that disney channel-esque movie was boring as shit
It was mediocre. I'm better off watching kamen rider.
It's bad. It's slightly more coherent than The Flash, but it doesn't have any highs or lows, which makes it less memorable.
It also shares a problem with Black Adam: there is no economy to the scenes. These movies need to tone down the number of locations and things happening, in favor of fewer, longer, more carefully crafted ones. And all the stuff about family carry very little weight.
No. It was nothing amazing but it's far from bad.
It has a rubbish, unimaginative plot driven by non-stop asspulls, and a cast hamming it up painfully hard. It's super derivative of a half dozen better superhero movies.
It's a bad movie.
Why does Jamie's dad appear as a near death experience force ghost talking about destiny when we're talking about A FRICKING ALIEN WEAPON?
The movie attempts to throw every trope in the book against the wall.
Can we pause for a second and address the murder thing? Movie makes a big deal about Jaime not killing anyone with his scarab (particularly Carapax) and then his family just start murdering hired goons with Ted's inventions. Also I'm pretty sure Jaime killed one or two of them too with his "NON lethal" hammer fists. They're work for hire, not monsters. Also why the frick couldn't Jaime just say during the first Carapax fight "Can you give me something that won't kill him?!" to at least put up a fight?
In trying to be Iron-Venom-Man, it has the stupid Venom trope where "le corporation" can just send out heavily armed goons in the middle of the city to murder people in broad daylight, gotta love that stupid shit.
They have a throwaway line of "Kord owns the cops, yo" but frick you we're years past this trope. I'm glad I'm not the only one who called bullshit on the goons open firing outside a public building in the middle of the city. Also what the frick is this movie on about with "Kord and corporations always try to frick with us low class joes" thing? You people live in a shit ghetto, and apparently between the 6 of you you're unable to pay for a shitty home. Which again, you're illegal to begin with.
This was also a problem in Black Adam what with the JSA. They have given up trying to make this make sense
I mean Aquaman and Wonder Woman movies poked key holes in the plot beats of Man of Steel; it was only an Extended Universe in the flimsiest sense of the concept.