Why wasn't the final action set piece a Saw inspired death house where Batman has to solve puzzles and riddles and save hostages while a timer was ticking or something? I mean it's the fricking riddler and that scenario would've fit in theme with their take on the character.
This Riddler was just a moron who somehow could kill high-level individuals and kill a Mafia boss and somehow they thought that him flooding the fricking city was more fitting than what you posted. Probably for the best not to expect good writing from a nepo-baby Jar Jar Abrams protege.
Because this isn't the riddler its some john doe from seven. We can't have campy weirdo putting civilians in death traps, we get "social commentary"occupy wall street. This movie is dated as frick, Noan already did this shit. If they had they had the balls they would've made an actual batman horror movie.
Yeah. Probably the most accurate to the comics as well because they actually have him doing detective shit. People that whined about him being emo don't realize that he's still new at being Batman and trying to balance his life.
As for the woke Catwoman line, it was meant to be ironic. My only complaint is the runtime and the final act.
No. Nolan has ruined Batman IP. Now this all about "le realism". We will never get Batflick kino about true Batman. Only about skinny le depressed vampire. Go play Arkham series games and after that, every bats movie would be shit for u, except Snyder, BTAS, Berton.
Black person, you're crying just because Batfleck would be a real pure personification of strength and power. but weak femboys are more pleased to see a little weak vampire boy. oh look this emo trans litterally me
>pure personification of strength and power
Batman isn't just a mindless powerful meathead you fricking homosexual pajeet. And either way the flick would've ended with him having a gay bonding moment with Deathstroke over their dead sons.
>Batfleck would be a real pure personification of strength and power
batmans not meant to be any of that shit you are lusting about lol
I'll somewhat agree with the other anon. Im not a Batman traditionalist and weve had 4 different Batman actors before Affleck. His portrayal was cut short and then humiliated in the Flash movie this year where he looks like he's in a toothpaste commercial
Hes had the best onscreen action scenes as bats funny enough. They just dont know how to write his Bruce.
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Didn't they make him an alcoholic just like Ben Affleck irl
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That was the reason snyder picked him. But he just comes across as a depressed loser with no friends. Keaton was able to sell it better with just one scene of him looking in the mirror patching his wounds smiling. This is the same affleck that won an Oscar by the way, so I'm not sure why he can't write better scenes.
This. The whole James Bond-esque sleeping with top-tier models in dream-like mansions and going to undeground organizations and the grizzled crime-fighting veteran look was so fricking kino. It was so perfect. What a depressing way that all went to waste.
Affleck is the only live action Batman that would actually fit into any comic story, the rest are either too goofy or too le grounded realism. Theres no way the next Pattinson movies will have any kind of superpowered villains, only edgy serial killers who slightly resemble an actual villain
DC had an easy lay up. All they had to do was release a batfleck movie, instead of batman vs superman nonsense. That was legit the best batman we had for a long time, he was actually intimidating for once. (Muh no kill rule) all the other live action bats killed people. Also would've been interesting if they had a dead Joker in this universe because bruce had enough and killed him.
I liked BvS, but the biggest flaw in regards to it's Batman was that he didn't kill the Joker, the whole thing with him losing control after Dick dies and starting to kill was a good idea, but not when he lets the Joker live but keeps killing random goons.
WB probably insisted he lived so they could make money off of him
Keaton boomers and Pattinson zillenials might seethe but Affleck was the only one capable of capturing that classic 1940s/50s modernized by Frank Miller Batman idea.
>Keaton boomers and Pattinson zillenials might seethe but Affleck was the only one capable of capturing that classic 1940s/50s modernized by Frank Miller Batman idea.
Fricking pissed we never got a standalone Batfleck movie.
the ideas of Batman will become relevant again once we enter a depression era economy. Either the corporate era will end and we'll have a Bataissance or a new version of the IP will rise up to replace "Batman" much like Batman replaced Zorro, the Spider, the Phantom, Doc Savage, and the Shadow.
I liked Val Kilmer as well.
Adam West was good too.
Basically, if the actor is trying to sound like a chainsmoking gimp its already shit.
All the best Batman flicks are the ones the fricking nerds hate. Batman 66, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, TDKR, BVS...
His script was touted as the best Batman script for the screen. It had Deathstroke hunting down everyone that knows him and destroying his life and they had a 10-minute long fight scene. Plus, it had Arkham in it and a horror vibe on the side. It would have been as kino as capeshit can be and it's a shame it didn't get made.
Zack Snyder wouldn't have touched Batman if Nolan didn't give him the job. You should say thank you to Nolan for giving that talentless hack a fanbase and a longer career.
This movie is a childish cosplay of the Patinson kid who really wants to be taken seriously after the twilight saga, but this movie is not about Batman, forget it. about boring clumsy fights, about boring Penguin chases that even the Fast and the Furious look more exciting.
I figured out why Riddler doesn't feel like Riddler in this movie. It's because they're really just doing Holiday instead of Riddler. Would have been more interesting if he was Falcone's abandoned son, making the connection to Bruce and the whole orphan thing come full circle. Instead he's just some lame Qanon satire. The 3rd act of this movie really drops off.
It was 30% brilliant and 70% pure dogshit. The fact that they were on to something and went full shortbus is just embarrassing. How do you drop the ball so hard?
Yeah, the last 20 minutes are what ruined the entire thing for me. They just couldn't resist going with a moronic grand capeshit ending instead of keeping things subdued
Batman didn't even do anything but walk around brooding for 2 hrs. He didn't even catch The Riddler. The cops did. AND Riddler still managed to blow up Gotham's sea wall. All Batman did was rescue people from the rubble.
Everything in this movie is good except for the Batman himself. How is he so moronic in regards to solving mysteries and sucked at deciphering riddles and languages? Hello, world's greatest detective?
the Batman is not only a shit Batman movie but a shit movie in general. >bad dialogue >Bruce is an emo twink >the gimp mask >marketed as ultra realistic but fails >the flying squirrel suit scene >wants to be Nolan 2.0 but failed >blacked Gordon for some reason >Catwoman is a black transvestite crackhead >Riddler is a reddit shitposter >Terrible third act >Batmobile is a regular muscle car but BLACK
The director went up his own ass. Nolan for all the flack he gets, understands the character and spectacle. He has a dry sense of humour that works for Batman. In reeves movie bruce is miserable to be around and the movie ends miserable with city flooding. How the frick you start the movie miserable and end miserable.
Also I find it hard to believe people are going to sit down for nearly 3 hours of boring detective nonsense. Batman begins is very rewatchable and achieves everything this movie failed to do. Nolan bats actually loves his family which includes alfred.
>Batman begins is very rewatchable and achieves everything this movie failed to do.
Definitely. Begins is a better movie and has a better Bruce than the emo manchild from this movie.
No. Pattinson was the best part, though. He has the makings of a supreme Batman had he not been given that cringe-inducing emo Kurt Cobain look or whatever the frick they were going for with that. I remember seeing him in Cosmopolis and thinking he'd be a pretty good Bruce Wayne so it is even more frustrating he was just a moody teenager and didn't act like Bruce at all. >inb4 character arc
Sure, I get that but the whole emo shtick was stupid and had no need to be in there. He could just be more hot-headed and violent as a starting-off point for his character and that aesthetic wasn't needed to convey that.
I was really getting into the mystery/thriller aspect but the catwoman scenes really annoyed me. Just go back to solving the crime instead of this bullshit emotional spiel about prostitutes.
I'm shocked anyone familiar with Batman enjoyed this film.
Batman walking around like he's fricking Superman tanking a million bullets without flinching is completely moronic and goes against the whole premise of the character.
The biggest problem with this movie is the fricking script. Matt Reeves is not a good enough writer to craft an engaging detective/mystery story. Also the whole thing felt like he was just trying to do Dark Knight but edgier which maybe could've worked if he went all the way with it and got an R rating but instead it just feels like a PG David Fincher rip off.
I've realized that good comic book movies are the ones that cater to a movie audience. Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy, the first three X-Men movies and Dark Knight trilogy are legitimately good. The problem is when the studios cater to comic book nerds. It's like the bar is significantly lowered when movie x staying true to comic book y is considered good enough.
Perfectly put. Nerds in general are subhuman scum. Like aberrant anomalies that don't follow any of the natural rules of human development. Their outlook being just as warped reflects this weird disconnect with normality and reality.
No. It sucked. They turned another franchise into a blacksploitation film. “Batman lives matter”, his role in the film is literally protecting “Chaaange” Mayor QUEEN Lakisha from the white revolutionary ringleader The Riddler. This is a prime example of new left deconstruction and deterritorialization, the CRIMINAL Wayne family is thrown into the mud. No beautiful 50s or 80s America, there is always DARKNESS behind WASP heritage. Wayne’s life history is shameful and thus he has to REJECT IT. EVERY white person in this film is a madman, a narcissist, corrupt or a psychopath. Blacks are positioned in all the respectable rules in the movie: the good policeman, the female Obama, and the doctor who saves Alfred from death. The racial casting can’t be more obvious. First scene: the black thug is persuaded by the white skinheads to fight the innocent Asian man. Truly Trump made Hollywood lose their minds and everything has to pass the left-wing filter, there is no place for iconoclastic inconsistency in the left-wing hallucination. So basically Batman uncovers the truth about his white guilt and faces Cinemaphile populist terrorist ENIGMA, however he doesn’t manage to stop CLIMATE CHANGE. Yes, Gotham is flooded by a series of bombs triggered by Enigma and his Cinemaphile minions. The evilness of whites accelerated the collapse. Batman is able to save Lakisha from the rubble and she gives an epic (lmao) SISTA speech about “rebuilding the trust in institutions” while Billionaire Batman promises to help the downtrodden with his millions.
there was not one casting choice that was not embarrassing aside from penguin. they were awful. every live action batman is awful but at the very least some had some redeeming qualities. the twilight kid is an even worse choice than bale was. this one exists so that zooms could do free marketing for them using that wienersucker cobains song on tiktok.
pedowood and modern rainbow flag comics will not ruin batman for me. none of it is canon or matters in the slightest.
No, I'm shocked it got the response it did, the style was excellent. But >Dano riddler was decent, but not a generational performance >Way too long, the last 30 minutes should have been cut >There wasn't really an iconic scene >Going back to the nightclub 4/5 times was a terrible movie, it was good once maybe twice. Other great nightclub scenes e.g. blade, collateral happen once and do it excellently.
Needs more Bruce Wayne.
It was pretty good actually except for the last 3rd at the stadium. Superhero movie always have boring action scenes at the end
Why wasn't the final action set piece a Saw inspired death house where Batman has to solve puzzles and riddles and save hostages while a timer was ticking or something? I mean it's the fricking riddler and that scenario would've fit in theme with their take on the character.
This Riddler was just a moron who somehow could kill high-level individuals and kill a Mafia boss and somehow they thought that him flooding the fricking city was more fitting than what you posted. Probably for the best not to expect good writing from a nepo-baby Jar Jar Abrams protege.
Because this isn't the riddler its some john doe from seven. We can't have campy weirdo putting civilians in death traps, we get "social commentary"occupy wall street. This movie is dated as frick, Noan already did this shit. If they had they had the balls they would've made an actual batman horror movie.
Cause Riddler thought Batman was his friend
No.
Christopher Nolan has ruined the IP for all future artists. Nothing will ever reach Dark Knight levels
Yeah. Probably the most accurate to the comics as well because they actually have him doing detective shit. People that whined about him being emo don't realize that he's still new at being Batman and trying to balance his life.
As for the woke Catwoman line, it was meant to be ironic. My only complaint is the runtime and the final act.
Bruce being emo is what made the movie unadulterated kino
>because they actually have him doing detective shit
You brainlets should have drills stuck into your hollow fricking skulls
le comic accuracy
No. Nolan has ruined Batman IP. Now this all about "le realism". We will never get Batflick kino about true Batman. Only about skinny le depressed vampire. Go play Arkham series games and after that, every bats movie would be shit for u, except Snyder, BTAS, Berton.
The story for the cancelled Batfleck flick sounded like pure shit as well. Off yourself.
Black person, you're crying just because Batfleck would be a real pure personification of strength and power. but weak femboys are more pleased to see a little weak vampire boy. oh look this emo trans litterally me
>Batfleck would be a real pure personification of strength and power
batmans not meant to be any of that shit you are lusting about lol
Of course, honey. he must be a weak homosexual like Pattinson.
>pure personification of strength and power
Batman isn't just a mindless powerful meathead you fricking homosexual pajeet. And either way the flick would've ended with him having a gay bonding moment with Deathstroke over their dead sons.
I'll somewhat agree with the other anon. Im not a Batman traditionalist and weve had 4 different Batman actors before Affleck. His portrayal was cut short and then humiliated in the Flash movie this year where he looks like he's in a toothpaste commercial
Hes had the best onscreen action scenes as bats funny enough. They just dont know how to write his Bruce.
Didn't they make him an alcoholic just like Ben Affleck irl
That was the reason snyder picked him. But he just comes across as a depressed loser with no friends. Keaton was able to sell it better with just one scene of him looking in the mirror patching his wounds smiling. This is the same affleck that won an Oscar by the way, so I'm not sure why he can't write better scenes.
>Batman isn't just a mindless powerful
homie, calm down. Batman has to be homie and trans, and he likes burgers. Masculinity is bad, yep.
im trying to find an intelligible idea in this word vomit
afflec was the best batman put into not the best movies.
This. The whole James Bond-esque sleeping with top-tier models in dream-like mansions and going to undeground organizations and the grizzled crime-fighting veteran look was so fricking kino. It was so perfect. What a depressing way that all went to waste.
Affleck is the only live action Batman that would actually fit into any comic story, the rest are either too goofy or too le grounded realism. Theres no way the next Pattinson movies will have any kind of superpowered villains, only edgy serial killers who slightly resemble an actual villain
DC had an easy lay up. All they had to do was release a batfleck movie, instead of batman vs superman nonsense. That was legit the best batman we had for a long time, he was actually intimidating for once. (Muh no kill rule) all the other live action bats killed people. Also would've been interesting if they had a dead Joker in this universe because bruce had enough and killed him.
I liked BvS, but the biggest flaw in regards to it's Batman was that he didn't kill the Joker, the whole thing with him losing control after Dick dies and starting to kill was a good idea, but not when he lets the Joker live but keeps killing random goons.
WB probably insisted he lived so they could make money off of him
Keaton boomers and Pattinson zillenials might seethe but Affleck was the only one capable of capturing that classic 1940s/50s modernized by Frank Miller Batman idea.
>Keaton boomers and Pattinson zillenials might seethe but Affleck was the only one capable of capturing that classic 1940s/50s modernized by Frank Miller Batman idea.
Fricking pissed we never got a standalone Batfleck movie.
The Age of Heroes must come again.
the ideas of Batman will become relevant again once we enter a depression era economy. Either the corporate era will end and we'll have a Bataissance or a new version of the IP will rise up to replace "Batman" much like Batman replaced Zorro, the Spider, the Phantom, Doc Savage, and the Shadow.
he's the only good live action choice so far, unfortunately he was using guns like a homosexual and was written by a mental 12 year old.
I liked Val Kilmer as well.
Adam West was good too.
Basically, if the actor is trying to sound like a chainsmoking gimp its already shit.
All the best Batman flicks are the ones the fricking nerds hate. Batman 66, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, TDKR, BVS...
I completely agree.
His script was touted as the best Batman script for the screen. It had Deathstroke hunting down everyone that knows him and destroying his life and they had a 10-minute long fight scene. Plus, it had Arkham in it and a horror vibe on the side. It would have been as kino as capeshit can be and it's a shame it didn't get made.
They already ruined the character in jla. He felt like he could frick you up then he became a joke.
Zack Snyder wouldn't have touched Batman if Nolan didn't give him the job. You should say thank you to Nolan for giving that talentless hack a fanbase and a longer career.
are you indian by any chance?
yes
I liked it, so yes.
This movie is a childish cosplay of the Patinson kid who really wants to be taken seriously after the twilight saga, but this movie is not about Batman, forget it. about boring clumsy fights, about boring Penguin chases that even the Fast and the Furious look more exciting.
Riddler was such disappointment.
I figured out why Riddler doesn't feel like Riddler in this movie. It's because they're really just doing Holiday instead of Riddler. Would have been more interesting if he was Falcone's abandoned son, making the connection to Bruce and the whole orphan thing come full circle. Instead he's just some lame Qanon satire. The 3rd act of this movie really drops off.
The whole gimmick of Holiday was killing on Holidays. There might be some of that mixed in there, but there's plenty of Riddler and the Zodiac Killer.
>Zodiac Killer
I like that even in the Zodiac film they say how fricking overrrated he is
It was 30% brilliant and 70% pure dogshit. The fact that they were on to something and went full shortbus is just embarrassing. How do you drop the ball so hard?
Yeah, the last 20 minutes are what ruined the entire thing for me. They just couldn't resist going with a moronic grand capeshit ending instead of keeping things subdued
No. Nothing was memorable from this shitpile
i have to agree. Visually it looked good and had the right feel. But it was not great, I watched it twice then forgot about it til I saw this thread.
the people who say its good are comic book enthusiasts who feel like grown ups. Like a fisher price laptop pretending to work like their parents.
the black guy who plays the cop is hilariously bad in this movie. About 10% of this movie is that Nirvana song with close ups on Batman in makeup too
>the black guy who plays the cop
Yeah the enitre movie he's just like "ah damn Batman what da hell does dis mean, watchu talkin bout"
Batman didn't even do anything but walk around brooding for 2 hrs. He didn't even catch The Riddler. The cops did. AND Riddler still managed to blow up Gotham's sea wall. All Batman did was rescue people from the rubble.
I liked it.
Everything in this movie is good except for the Batman himself. How is he so moronic in regards to solving mysteries and sucked at deciphering riddles and languages? Hello, world's greatest detective?
The movie was kino until the niggler spill out his plans like a moron for no reason and the director stop giving a crap afterwards
Keaton and affleck in flash felt more like batman than 3 hours of pattison.
No
the Batman is not only a shit Batman movie but a shit movie in general.
>bad dialogue
>Bruce is an emo twink
>the gimp mask
>marketed as ultra realistic but fails
>the flying squirrel suit scene
>wants to be Nolan 2.0 but failed
>blacked Gordon for some reason
>Catwoman is a black transvestite crackhead
>Riddler is a reddit shitposter
>Terrible third act
>Batmobile is a regular muscle car but BLACK
The director went up his own ass. Nolan for all the flack he gets, understands the character and spectacle. He has a dry sense of humour that works for Batman. In reeves movie bruce is miserable to be around and the movie ends miserable with city flooding. How the frick you start the movie miserable and end miserable.
Also I find it hard to believe people are going to sit down for nearly 3 hours of boring detective nonsense. Batman begins is very rewatchable and achieves everything this movie failed to do. Nolan bats actually loves his family which includes alfred.
>Batman begins is very rewatchable and achieves everything this movie failed to do.
Definitely. Begins is a better movie and has a better Bruce than the emo manchild from this movie.
No. Pattinson was the best part, though. He has the makings of a supreme Batman had he not been given that cringe-inducing emo Kurt Cobain look or whatever the frick they were going for with that. I remember seeing him in Cosmopolis and thinking he'd be a pretty good Bruce Wayne so it is even more frustrating he was just a moody teenager and didn't act like Bruce at all.
>inb4 character arc
Sure, I get that but the whole emo shtick was stupid and had no need to be in there. He could just be more hot-headed and violent as a starting-off point for his character and that aesthetic wasn't needed to convey that.
You have to be a third worlder brown twitter moron to like it
I was really getting into the mystery/thriller aspect but the catwoman scenes really annoyed me. Just go back to solving the crime instead of this bullshit emotional spiel about prostitutes.
I'm shocked anyone familiar with Batman enjoyed this film.
Batman walking around like he's fricking Superman tanking a million bullets without flinching is completely moronic and goes against the whole premise of the character.
>batman being moronic
🙁
>batman being moronic while the score goes BAAAAA BABAAA BA BAAAAA BABAAAAA BA and the screen has a tiktok filter on it
🙂
The biggest problem with this movie is the fricking script. Matt Reeves is not a good enough writer to craft an engaging detective/mystery story. Also the whole thing felt like he was just trying to do Dark Knight but edgier which maybe could've worked if he went all the way with it and got an R rating but instead it just feels like a PG David Fincher rip off.
The script is genuinely embarrassing and makes Nolan looks like a genius.
Batcloon is best kino
Another Batman movie on the pile no one really cares anymore this one couldn’t make one billion
It was bit silly
turned it off after 20 minutes. literally couldn't see shit
nah. too long and boring. too moronic. with modern digital fog, poorly lit cinematography. and Black folk everywhere
DOES HE KNOW?
I've realized that good comic book movies are the ones that cater to a movie audience. Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy, the first three X-Men movies and Dark Knight trilogy are legitimately good. The problem is when the studios cater to comic book nerds. It's like the bar is significantly lowered when movie x staying true to comic book y is considered good enough.
Perfectly put. Nerds in general are subhuman scum. Like aberrant anomalies that don't follow any of the natural rules of human development. Their outlook being just as warped reflects this weird disconnect with normality and reality.
It was megakino. Penguin was the highlight. Colin Farrell... How did you do it?
I'm not chud but it's incredibly infantile ethnic ideology has got me on the edge but it's still the best capeshit after 2010
surprisingly i liked The Flash a lot more than this
No. It sucked. They turned another franchise into a blacksploitation film. “Batman lives matter”, his role in the film is literally protecting “Chaaange” Mayor QUEEN Lakisha from the white revolutionary ringleader The Riddler. This is a prime example of new left deconstruction and deterritorialization, the CRIMINAL Wayne family is thrown into the mud. No beautiful 50s or 80s America, there is always DARKNESS behind WASP heritage. Wayne’s life history is shameful and thus he has to REJECT IT. EVERY white person in this film is a madman, a narcissist, corrupt or a psychopath. Blacks are positioned in all the respectable rules in the movie: the good policeman, the female Obama, and the doctor who saves Alfred from death. The racial casting can’t be more obvious. First scene: the black thug is persuaded by the white skinheads to fight the innocent Asian man. Truly Trump made Hollywood lose their minds and everything has to pass the left-wing filter, there is no place for iconoclastic inconsistency in the left-wing hallucination. So basically Batman uncovers the truth about his white guilt and faces Cinemaphile populist terrorist ENIGMA, however he doesn’t manage to stop CLIMATE CHANGE. Yes, Gotham is flooded by a series of bombs triggered by Enigma and his Cinemaphile minions. The evilness of whites accelerated the collapse. Batman is able to save Lakisha from the rubble and she gives an epic (lmao) SISTA speech about “rebuilding the trust in institutions” while Billionaire Batman promises to help the downtrodden with his millions.
holy fricking cringe, didn't read, belongs on tumblr
Too damn long
there was not one casting choice that was not embarrassing aside from penguin. they were awful. every live action batman is awful but at the very least some had some redeeming qualities. the twilight kid is an even worse choice than bale was. this one exists so that zooms could do free marketing for them using that wienersucker cobains song on tiktok.
pedowood and modern rainbow flag comics will not ruin batman for me. none of it is canon or matters in the slightest.
the movie would be great if they cut out all of the zoe kravitz scenes
Not really. I honestly found it kind of bland.
>was it kino?
No, I'm shocked it got the response it did, the style was excellent. But
>Dano riddler was decent, but not a generational performance
>Way too long, the last 30 minutes should have been cut
>There wasn't really an iconic scene
>Going back to the nightclub 4/5 times was a terrible movie, it was good once maybe twice. Other great nightclub scenes e.g. blade, collateral happen once and do it excellently.
why are u Black folk talking about this shit all the time it wasn't even that special
Why did they nerf Batman's healing so hard?
if DC characters were RPG classes Batman most certainly would be a paladin so it fits.
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