I'm on episode 6 and it's quite alright, nothing to complain tbh. I like how the happy-go-lucky girl is very well contrasted with the disgusting rugged world so she isn't nearly as annoying as she could've been. The other plot with the soldier guy is quite good and the Ghoul is the best character in the show.
The anon complaining about lack of frontal nudity has a point though, specially from the pregnant lady. I usually don't find pregnant women hot for obvious reasons but that one is something different, I think it's the eyepatch
But they royally fricking up the BoS. It's a bunch of militant tech hoarding isolationists not the fricking Adeptus Mechanicus. Moving Shady Sands to the Bone Yard and nuking it was fricking stupid. Ghouls need an unspecified drug to not go feral is new and moronic. Hell there's even a ghoul in 3 that said he went feral out of boredom for awhile but came back when that was even more boring.
The ghoul lore in the games doesn't even make sense. New Vegas says them going feral is irreversible and they're basically locked inside their mind while their bodies revert back to basic primal instinct
Fallout 4 says it's the radiation literally rots their brains. The original fallout, iirc, doesn't even mention Feral Ghouls so much as you aren't welcome in Necropolis and a lot of them will attack you on sight. I don't think 2 commented on them.
>The ghoul lore in the games doesn't even make sense.
they were a side mutation of diluted FEV mixed with contaminated radiation. The mutagen came from the destroyed west tek research lab (the glow). That is why the only place ghouls originated from was necropolis that go the bulk of the strain blown in their faces when their vault malfunctioned and did not seal. Only other TWO non necropolis ghouls were ofc harold and one ghoul mutant by the followers of the apocalypse. both of them got turned in Mariposa which was the new main FEV research site constructed just before the war and which chinks were unaware of and thus did not bomb
it made good enough sense in the original world logic. its bethesda that fricked it all up since all their leads are unironically shallow and stupid as frick
I really liked the show a lot, specifically the set pieces and costumes but I guess my criticism would just be basic shit, nuking Shady Sands is silly, Vault Tec doing the nuking stuff is silly, the NCR some how vanishing and being some small community is also silly. I don't really care about the extended ghoul lore, oh and making the BoS come off as some kinda cult was a weird take, I don't mind the darker tone and PoV of making the solders seem like buttholes but I never envisioned them being like the show portrayed
3 makes the BoS seem a touch weird. I mean, they have like scholars and rare texts and want to hoard all pre war shit which is practically magic. And live in a dark fortress closed off from outsiders while building a giant robot
It's good, really. They really put the high budget in use. The woke shit doesn't feel forced at all. Only thing that felt funny was indeed the transgender character in Brotherhood of Steel. I thought she was like Vasquez in Aliens and it was only during the last episode that she was supposed to be he. Not a big issue really but it made me laugh that how can they miss cast a person like that. Or was it stated somewhere that he's a trans in the show as well?
Get the frick outta here homosexual.
Go back to tumbrlr and your safe space lgbabc friendly homosexuals
Why do people like you have to ruin things for the rest of us.
It was more than I ever expected from the show. I expected it to be as bad as LOTR TV show but it turned out to be a very nice series. Looking forward to the Season 2
NCR was some small hippy community in one town. Instead of a multi state empire complete with corrupt government being controlled by rich Brahmin barons. I mean they were waging a war with multiple military bases as far as Las vegas but in the show it was one town.
Also the vault tec plot to start ww3 made no sense how they presented it, would've been better if they interrupted peace negotiations and indirectly caused ww3.
>Also the vault tec plot to start ww3 made no sense how they presented it, would've been better if they interrupted peace negotiations and indirectly caused ww3.
That's basically what they imply to be happening in the show, except with the caveat that Vault-Tec is willing to drop the first bomb to achieve results (this is during a sales pitch meeting to some of the other big corpos so could be taken with a grain of salt, that scene does not confirm in any way that Vault-Tec actually set off any nukes in the Great War)
reminder that having a black protagonist isn't woke
reminder that having two protagonists being romantic isn't woke
reminder that having a "israeli looking" protagonist isn't being woke
thanks!
you may now discuss the show!
hiring anobjectively bad DEI actor to fill a quota is woke though, which is what they did. you can't tell me that troony gave a single solid or believable line delivery.
>Fallout Release
It's not woke! haha brand new show to enjoy! Don't listen to the trolls! >week 1
woke isn't even real chuds, just watch the show you'll see! >week 2
chuds are seething about how woke Fallout is, haha watch our show! >week 3
The cope has been getting progressively more desperate. I can't wait to see what next week's corporate woke slop cope is.
reminder only morons think posters calling fallout, a game where you could get gay married, woke for a women existing are real and not paid Amazon astro turf shills stirring up fake internet controversy a la ghostbusters
I'm sure most people can distinguish between "real woke-shit" and "omg, troony is a soldier, it's woke!"...
Fallout isn't woke.
If the whole show revolved around scouring the wasteland to find HRTs and nuking people who don't conform to pronouns, then there would be a case. But just because there is a female lead (as expected playing the games), a black BoS Knight (as seen in the games), and Ghouls (again, in the game)... they should know nothing about the show is ABOUT being woke.
finished yesterday, 8.6/10 on imdb is correct
very very good
managed to capture fallout game universe funny gory nonsense without corrupting it
the plot and pacing are great, even pre-war sequences made sense
I thought pacing was too fast at the start. But kept a good pace afterwards. Very good show. Not a lefty and Cinemaphile contrarians are moronic for trying to pick holes
Long time player of the fallout series, mildly excited for the series but after rings of power I was absolutely not expecting anything and really tired of identity politics in shows.
Fallout comes out, happy to see that the show actually follows the source material, but stopped watching after the first episode solely based on the fact that Amazon has no chill with these close-ups of black children smiling and acting wise, a trany being cheered on in the brotherhood of steel for no good reason then being the victim of a sorta hate crime followed by the grand knight referring to the troony as a "they".
Good God I don't mind any ethnicity or sexuality but write them in well, not as an afterthought, I refuse to subject myself to this because it just ends up bothering me and I can't enjoy my food when I watch the show, so overall I'm happy for them, but I wish it was made by some company who's not American and driven by the whole diversity division race you guys run in America
>topped watching after the first episode solely based on the fact that Amazon has no chill with these close-ups of black children smiling and acting wise, a trany being cheered on in the brotherhood of steel for no good reason then being the victim of a sorta hate crime followed by the grand knight referring to the troony as a "they".
you sound like you need more mental help than the trannies
you're not a real person though
"I stopped watching this show because because pol racist talking point #1, pol racist talking point #2, pol racit talking point #3, blah blah blah i just really hate black people"
The brainwashing isn't in full effect outside of America - I can and do choose to consume content that tries to be good on it own two feet, without having to cram diversity in there for brownie points. When it's in the show - it's VERY obvious and distracting for non Americans
I stopped after the first minutes when the nuke were presented in a low IQ unbelievable way. I knew that the entire show was written by mongoloids at that very moment.
>Why aren't these alternate-history, technologically-distinct nukes from my SciFi video game tv series the same as nukes from real life?
I kid because you haven't played the games obviously, but to answer your question: most of the nukes dropped in the "Great War" of Fallout lore were "smaller", less destructive nukes, but much dirtier and meant to release a shit ton of radiation and cause ecological collapse
The manual says they were normal sized tactical nukes, they are as dirty as any fission based bomb can be.
But no way that centuries later can the fallout still be a problem, that's pure video game fiction.
Also the nuking scene is so dumb you'd have to be beyond moronic to defend it.
I'm glad I've dodged a bullet, the show seems to have troony actors, shitty leftist room writing (how typical by now), interracial crap etc.
>But no way that centuries later can the fallout still be a problem, that's pure video game fiction.
Of course it's fiction, you dumb homosexual. The radiation is magical and turns people in to zombies.
You didn't play the first game huh? Or the second? 100 years after the war, there's only one seriously radioactive place in california, specifically from some chinese superweapon. By fallout 2 there's even less radioactive places.
Nothing. The show can be it's own thing. Why does it need to be tied to two games nobody played and an incomplete game? Let them cook. Clearly it was good eating
Killing off a great actor for shock value
Appealing to China
Not enough representation Maximus and Dane should have been a couple instead of the boring romance we got
Shit editing. like ungodly awful editing. Felt like it was cut to air on prime time TV with ads.
Brotherhood of steel plot was kinda meh. Aaron isnt a compelling actor. Waste of Michael Christofers talent.
Ella was fine.... not a great actress by any means but she sold the caracter well enough.
I think this show needs better direction. While the show running in aggregate is ok. Scene to Scene it feels very discordant and the only constant is Walter Goggins high caliber of acting.
its the most reddit shit ive ever seen
now i havent played fallout, so i cant tell if this is a symptom of the game or just the adaptation but i cant stand the marvel tier quips
“he was fricking my chcikens lol!”
its intention of being a quirky mindfrick, undercutting every potentially deep or meaningful scene with some moronic attempts at humor, I think general audiences have become "Marvel-brained" and can't pay attention to anything unless funny man make a poo poo every two minutes. I've got some time to kill and want to look into what exactly everyone likes about this show. So far I've watched The Critical Drinker's video on it and he believes there's nothing "woke" about it, but after seeing the first 4 episodes I can't believe nobody's calling out its poor understanding of capitalism as borderline communist propoganda. >Lucy isn't a Mary Sue because she gets beat up and has to live with her consequences
consequences that are all immediately undone because stimpaks are magical full cures and severed limbs are immediately replaced by other rotten severed limbs. Rey Palpatine would've still gotten shit after bypassing the compressor if she did so and quickly explained that she read about compressors as a kid but it's okay when Lucy does the same thing with power armor? >rooting for Maximus
hahahahahahahahaha how drunk does this guy get? >only criticism is the fact that there are green plants in it
Odd, because this is the only thing that's actually consistent with the games. He claims to have played and enjoyed the whole series but he's never seen Oasis? Vault 22? Did he somehow forget what the purpose of the GECK was? Does he actually write for Bethesda?
Aside from him a bunch of homosexuals in my discord keep saying my complaints won't matter in season 2 because that's going to answer for everything, so either they're also Bethesda writers who already know that the second season will retroactively improve the first or everyone's forgotten about this argument being used for Star Wars TFA and being proven wrong.
Any fans wanna pitch in? What's good about this show?
He did the same for the 40k stuff. He got normal Space Marines lore mixed up with Adeptus Custodes its clear he has no fricking idea what he is talking about or he is truly half a bottle deep of Jack Daniels at all times like a true incel scotsman
Not a lot outside of a couple of possible plot holes (but they could be resolved in season 2), and some poor dialogue in a couple of scenes. Overall it was a strong season that was received well by almost everyone, did so well here we had shills making threads daily trying to convince people it was bad.
Same thing with the EXACT same people who tried to push le Barbie is bad narrative because they are trying to stir up ire and draw attention to their "this is the REAL truth" youtube videos
production was pretty good.
detail as well.
but it still felt like a fan made cosplay on youtube.
the israeli cucks obvious had their greedy hands in it.
its star wars the force awakens part 2.
the story line at the end didnt make sense. its obviously the ghoul's family is in the vault with all the hibernating employees. if not, thats a perfect area to start waking people up and asking with a gun. but for 200 years he hasnt thought of that?
I'm not a big fan of them resetting the west and the Brotherhood being as big as they are on the east coast now.
Outside of that no complaints it's very true to Fallout and well handled. It takes most of its visual cues and aesthetics from 4 I'd complain because I prefer others but it works well.
The lead is pretty charismatic and the ghoul character is pretty solid as well. I'm interested to see where they take the BOS character. I've actually really liked how they have handled the Vaults so far.
Discussing the positives and negatives of various ideologies, having people of different races (and indeed different species/mutants/ghouls etc) and having them interact is not "woke" and is in the games from the beginning
The only arguably woke element of the show is the troony character and the character is basically a non-entity after the first 2 eps
>Discussing the positives and negatives of various ideologies
lol How naive could you possibly be? There's never any real political discussion in entertainment media or even in most news shows. It's all designed to promote the producers' views. You didn't notice how non-commies being demonized and the absurd shilling for communism?
>the only woke element is the troony
You didn't watch the show. If you had then you'd say >prewar criticism of capitalism by people that don't know what capitalism is >black lesbian political revolutionary and nuclear scientist BLACK WOMAN >Goggins' wife whining about him going to war
>That's because Goggins is a perfect cast
They absolutely 100% knocked it out of the park with that casting. He plays both the all-American Hollywood cowboy and the post-apocalyptic gunslinger so fricking well.
Generally I thought it was good and I did enjoy it. But I thought they should have leaned more heavily into Maximus being a psychopath or bad karma character, if that's what they were going for. Him trying to kill the other scribe didn't really make sense unless he's an evil person. Why not just explain to him that the knight was a coward who died running away, and he's going to finish the mission to become a knight himself?
This is actually explained near the end to the elder. The elder realized what happened between the two of them and recognized Maximus as having what it takes to do what is necessary. That being, taking power when needed.
I enjoy the show more than I expected to. Todd Howard being an executive producer, it seems clear to me he hates the original games and New Vegas. The depiction of the NCR is shitty and weird. Seeing NCR ranger armor and it turning out to be some nobody dirt farmers was just disrespectful. I guess this is a Fallout 1&2 retconn because there is no way the Master missed all these vaults out in the open in the boneyard. Speaking of, nobody refers to LA as the boneyard. There is some shit editing in the show, just sloppy really. The filly gunfight. Goosey and Nigknight returning the fusion core to vault 4. They get tossed out of a vault and just turn around and toss the fusion core back to them down some stairs or something, how is that supposed to work? In general frick Todd.
But what it is isn’t good. Everything outside the vault story is shit. How the frick does everyone keep finding each other? It makes sense when they use the dog to track the head, but that only happens twice.
I say give it a chance, it does a good job of capturing the atmosphere of the 3d fallout games. I was hesitant, but when I actually watched it I saw that most of the criticisms on Cinemaphile were from people who hadn't actually watched it. For instance the "vault-tec nuked the world to somehow sell more vaults, that doesn't make sense at all" is not what actually happens in the show.
No, if it had less black people I might give it a chance, but these days it’s a big red flag. Once you see forced diversity in the cast, you can already tell the writing and directing are going to be shit.
...because in the 1800s there was a significant black danish community to make people culturally believe that the Little Mermaid could be black.
Or how about the Green Knight movie, thinking a Pooinder could play as an Arthurian Knight?
TLDR, "forced diversity" is basically the inability to stay in one's lane. White people have their culture, black people have theirs. It doesn't make sense for a white person to be in the rap music business, that's why Vanilla Ice has been in the butt-end of many jokes for the past 30 years.
But a black person like NAS and Beyonce trying to break into Country music? that's just embarassing.... and for what? "Forced Diversity", breaking those walls down, ya?... Sometimes it just doesn't WORK.
>For instance the "vault-tec nuked the world to somehow sell more vaults, that doesn't make sense at all" is not what actually happens in the show.
It's quite literally what happened tho. First the indian dude explains that Vaul tec is undermining the peace negotiations because peace is not good when your business is to sell fallout shelter. At that point it actually kinda makes sense muh capitalism is bad blabla but ok... but then they dumb it down spectacularly in the last episode with the the meeting of all the comically evil muguls and the vault tec's rep explaining they will start themselves the nuclear apocalypse because it's good for competition.... It's so fricking absurd lmao. Capitalism thrive with a huge producers/consumers base not with fricking braindead ghouls, raiders stealing shit and vault people living quite literally like hippies in the seattle CHAZ
The point of that scene was to demonstrate Vault Tec, amd all the corporate heads that owned the US government, were authoritarian Communists that used the language of capitalism like a skinsuit
Bethesda has only made fallout games that take place on the East Coast. That is a deliberate writing choice. They did it because they didn't feel comfortable continuing the work of the Fallout 1&2 teams. Todd was salty as frick that Obsidian managed to make a game as faithful to the originals as NV. It only makes sense that their first attempt at returning to Fallout's roots would miss a lot of beats.
It wasn't all over the place between 1&2. New Vegas managed to do it's own thing without contradicting 1&2. Only Bethesda has a hard time with consistency.
This. For 1&2 Interplay had a Fallout Bible specifically so there wouldn't be any inconsistencies. You'd think leftist revisionists who've "always been Fallout out fans" would remember this.
>ghouls now are both somehow immortal and destined to go feral >far too wacky >absolutely no stakes felt by the characters, people can walk on half shattered feet with mild discomfort and you can lose a finger with just a wince >vaults don’t make any sense >NCR nuked, the remnants are weird cult people >somehow found a way to blame capitalism for the worlds problems, promoting communism >vault-tec forced the war to happen so their vaults could sell more? Who would buy them after the world ends? >editing is fricked, each cut is half a second too early and it feels like you’re an ADHD kid >show expects you to care when none of the characters do
The quality of anything made past 2015 is Bollywood-tier and absolute shit.
Sure, the woke shit makes it nauseating. But the overall quality itself is putrid outside of that.
>what went wrong?
With the show, nothing. Its great. It's just what the fans wanted.
With you? You were rejected by women but instead of learning and growing you became a bitter incel, retreating behind sexism, racism and transphobia instead of facing your own failings. You became attached to a franchise that was never for you due to your own lack of media literacy, deluding yourself into thinking you were some kind of "lore master", gatekeeping a franchise which has always been for everyone.
So when a show is released for the real fans of the franchise, with the same message the games have always had - you throw a temper tantrum.
I think the last episode kinda shit the bed after a very solid season. the ghoul taking down the BoS knights like that was just the pinnacle of silly, among other things.
also how is destroying shady sands equal to destroying the whole NCR? I thought some enemy faction like the Legion was going to be revealed and they were responsible, but I’m supposed to believe agent copper did it all by himself? cmon now
NCR was shown to have serious systemic and political flaws in New Vegas, so a rogue terrorist destroying the capital in one day caused the entire structure to disintegrate. I won't be surprised when it turns out there are other NCR factions throughout California that all claim to be the legitimate government
never in the history of mankind a single person was able to demolish a nation state just like so in a single day.
they clearly wanted to set the story in California but at the same time set it in a lawless wasteland instead of an organized society. they could have just set the story somewhere else but laziness won.
they wouldn’t though, not when there is no invading force pushing for surrender or annihilation. most likely scenario is the army generals would take power and move the capital somewhere else.
the NCR was huge and it had a well established hierarchy and chains of supply, one city getting pulverized wouldn’t mean instant anarchy, that would be incredibly lazy writing.
>army generals would take power
And then they'd start fighting with each other, and ethnic groups would start fighting, and rival powers would start clawing for influence, amd before you know it donkey caravans are the most reliable form of transportation because there's no big USA around to bail out your collapsing society. We've seen this kind of shit happen after natural disasters, you stupid Black person. How long do you think it would have taken for New Orleans to return to normal if it was just the LA state government trying to rebuild?
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it’s shit lazy writing worthy of Bethesda, end of, cope on though Todd
It suffers from exactly the same problem as pretty much every modern TV show.
>characters act like dumb caricatures who talk in quips and zany one-liners all the time >no internal consistency, things happen to move the plot forward regardless of how ridiculous or unbelievable it is >this is made even worse by them using video game logic (stimpaks, for example) to just do whatever they want >ugly and cheap looking with an over reliance on CGI, and overly vibrant color grading >absolutely terrible pacing, tries to cram too much story in, yet somehow also moves too slow due to the story being so fractured >all the usual forced tokenism, strong woman and strong black man fighting back against their oppressors (white men)
It’s just shallow garbage, made with no passion or care, attempting to appeal to nostalgia for a quick buck. It’s basically the TV show version of Fallout 4, a bastardised commercial product, wearing the skin of a beloved franchise, made by a bunch of corporate suits who don’t understand the series and only care about the bottom line. Textbook slop.
I really liked the friendship that him and Thaddeus were building up until this point. Hopefully Thaddeus and Maximus can rekindle it in season 2 now that he's most likely turning in to a super mutant or a ghoul. They had the type of friendship that dudes their age would have with one another.
I couldn't get past the brotherhood knight fight with the bear.
You hype them for the whole time as some sort of superhero in tin costume and they run from 1st fight like a b***h ?
Not even 30s before they spouted like only the ones who do brave deeds get to wear the armor ? >also, the worst fallout weapon designs for assault rifle or whatever the frick was that >bear dies to a single 10mm bullet afterwards because we need the lad to take the armor.
Someone who finished it please also explain to me how the frick did the raiders even get to vault in the 1st place.
literally the point. They're moronic larpers. They're not cut out for the wastelands. The whole order with the marking, the squire humilation rituals, le strong silent type: it's all fluff.
Then they would not last 200+ years dumbass. I don't get this, how the frick do you expect me to believe they are organization that >Has full hierarchy of training regime, ranking and seniority for hundreds of years
Yet frick up everytime we need it. >Access and understanding of pre war technology
Fricks up the 1st moment they use it
It feels like cognitive dissonance of writers who can live only in scene they are currently writing and anything before or after doesn't exist.
they have wealth, numbers and loyalty but they're incompetent on a personal level. Many armies are like that, the Indian Army could prolly rule over a big part of asia but it doesn't mean I would trust a jeet not to detonate a grenade in the barracks
The knights are wannabe tough guys but power tripping pussies, the squires are brainwashed fangirls and the priests fanatic cult leaders. They lay that out on ep 1 or 2
>The whole order with the marking, the squire humilation rituals, le strong silent type: it's all fluff.
Bethesda made them the face of the brand, so there's no way they would ever imply that. It's just comic relief.
BoS are Fallout's secondary protagonists now, instead of the reclusive zealots they're supposed to be. This show abolished the NCR just so the BoS could retain their place as the face of the series unopposed.
>BoS are Fallout's secondary protagonists now >now
They already were in FO1.
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It's been a while, but iirc they only had an entrance to a missable bunker and no impact on the plot. They've always been an isolationist faction outside of 3 and 4.
>Vaulters who have never left the vault in 200 years cant tell the difference between NCR and Raiders
I am so chocked, this complexity ruins the 30 year canon of fallout forever more! God damn woke mind virus!
No, moron. I'm saying that in episode 1 Muldaver lead a bunch of raiders into the vaults to murderrape the occupants (for some reason) and in the final episode she was le heckin wholesome wasteland saint that has zero connection to raiders and was actually trying to provide LA with free unlimited electricity out of pure altruism.
It makes no fricking sense. They literally forgot what she did in episode 1, much like they forgot about the Ghoul knowing the power armor's weak point when he was fighting Maximus.
>Contrived TV writing >troony >Lorebreaking >Dumbing down and sanitising aspects of the universe >Reduced aesthetic >Flooded the fanbase with TV normies with lower standards
Ultimately that's all Bethesda's fault and not due to it being a bad adaptation.
There is potential in the idea of a Fallout TV show in the style of classic Fallout, following a character around the world, dedicating an arc to each new settlement and the issues they're facing in a post-apocalyptic society. Introducing an overarching threat and new part members as it goes along.
Of course that was never going to be what they did so we get Bethesda 50s nuclear theme park slop
This show makes a good argument for games as a medium. Lots of anons have ideas for making it better, but in the end film can't capture the scope and atmosphere of wandering around a fictional world full of its own lore and rules. There is a "Fallout feeling" that you can't explain to people who haven't played one of the games.
finished the show yesterday It was fun but the plot made no sense. Mostly just made me want to pick up FO3
Anyone else found it funny when the wife used the Clinton "Woman have it worse in war" line cause they have to wait at home for their husbands to get maimed and die slowly in pain for her freedom to frick chad on the rebound?
Cut out the n1gger, cut out the troony and cut out the dyke Indian lady and it's good. Keep Ella Purnell and Walton Goggins as the sole duo leads and that's it.
Not as woke as you'd expect something made in the US in 2024 to be, but I hate that it's cannon. Essentially retconned NV, and cannonized BoS ending for fo4
>Not as woke as you'd expect
it has troons, Black folk, interspecies relationships, le captiatlism bad guys, forced diversity and the list goes on. kys
>it has troons
I never said it's not woke at all, I said it's not as bad as I expected >Black folk, interspecies relationships, le captiatlism bad guys, forced diversity and the list goes on
putting black people in the LotR universe or wheel of time is forced diversity. putting them in an American setting is not forced diversity
>Essentially retconned NV
Huh? Granted it's been like 10 years since I played NV, but I don't remember anything the show would have retconned in it
the blackboard scene states that Shady Sands got nuked 4 years before the battle for Hoover dam
>an American setting is not forced diversity
its not "an American" setting. Its an idealized 50s futuristic setting, ever see Black folk or ching chongs in Leave it to Beaver or The Andy Griffith Show?
The fact that you wouldn't see them in a 50s tv show doesn't mean they didn't exist. It's entirely reasonable for all races to exist in a series set in 2300 muttistan.
Oh, I see
Eh, the Fallout timeline and general continuity has always seemed like a fricking mess to me, especially with each major event having multiple endings. As long as NV still exists I'm pretty much happy.
it's one thing to change details and another to just straight up cannonize endings and retcon entire games. the worst part is that from todd's cope explanations, it doesn't even seem to have been intentional
>exist in a series set in 2300 muttistan.
they where a small minority in the setting this would take place in, and also largely localized in the south, and nowhere to be found where these stories take place. Stop helping these israelites create a false narrative.
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who was a small minority? do you have racial statistics for fallout's America? You're just pulling shit out of your ass now, the games were full of blacks and asians
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>who was a small minority?
Black folk. in the 50s America had a 89.5% white population. No need to make shit up when you can look it up yourself.
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Anonymous
the fact that in the fallout universe the transistor wasn't invented and cold war only intensified with time doesn't somehow change the trajectory of the racial makeup the US would have by the time of the war
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You clearly don't get the setting. Its a stylized 50's view of the future. Which never included a flood of Black folk, beaners, street shitters or chinks.
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no, it's not. models in fo1 and 2 look like 80s rednecks with mullets. fo3, which established the aesthetic, is full of brownish mutts
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>fo1 and 2 look like 80s rednecks with mullets
so white people? weird > fo3, which established the aesthetic
lol
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is fo3 and fnv completely filled with mutts? yes or no?
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yes or no does not mean either is responsible for establishing the aesthetic. 1 and 2 did
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>mmmm I will just personally pick and choose what to believe based on my want for the universe
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Then why are these people all over ALL of the games. LMFAO
3 weeks ago
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I couldn't imagine being the type of person who just comes up with random reasons in their head just to justify being angry
3 weeks ago
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I couldn't imagine being the type of person who just cannot process oxygen without being blasted from all sides by images and noises of Black folk, troons, commies and corporate logos.
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>Look at me! I'm different!
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No, I am normal, you are some bay area freak with student debt.
Oh, I see
Eh, the Fallout timeline and general continuity has always seemed like a fricking mess to me, especially with each major event having multiple endings. As long as NV still exists I'm pretty much happy.
The Fall of Shady Sands correlates with the First Battle for Hoover Dam, which a citizen looking back might view as the beginning of the end if the Mojave adventure sucked away needed resources elsewhere
>Retcons can easily be fixed with the notion that in a nuclear holocaust no one cares or is around long enough to record how history of such things actually happened.
I'm sure in Season 2 they'll cover up the plot-holes and retcons with some half-assed excuse.
Why did the NCR lady take a gang of literal moron raiders to the vault instead of NCR troops? I don't understand why the show drags out the imprisoned raiders in the vault subplot for so many episodes, with many scenes of them acting like screaming morons, if the reveal is to have her actually not be a raider.
So if she hired raiders for the job, why though? To hide the NCR's involvement from Vault Tec for fear of more nuclear reprisal is my assumption but it's an asspull one.
The writing was 60% garbage. The flashback stuff was its strongest stuff because it utilized the budget well and felt like an actual show. The humor was grading and everything involving the brotherhood of steel just came across as lame.
Also, cutting to the brotherhood in the middle of episode 1 and showing the wasteland totally ruins the moment later when it try’s to be all epic about opening the vault door. The fact that no editor thought about that is baffling and speaks of the quality of people working on the show
>Also, cutting to the brotherhood in the middle of episode 1 and showing the wasteland totally ruins the moment later when it try’s to be all epic about opening the vault door.
Holy shit 100% this.
The show entirely undercuts the moment the vault door opens, it's moronic for the first glimpse of the wasteland to be an established Brotherhood of Steel camp complete with vertibirds and the airship, essentially a functional developed society.
The state of the outside world should be discovered alongside Lucy. Especially if you're introducing audiences unacquainted with Fallout lore.
Like, make episode 2 the Maximus intro episode instead. What the frick were the editors thinking.
Also the geography makes no sense - characters are constantly moving from desert, to forest, to tundra, back to desert. Woods look super cheap and LARPy and they keep defaulting to them for extended scenes
Not showing what a bustling city looks like in a post post apocalypse. The whole point of Fallout is to see what that society (and its morals) looks like in a post nuclear war setting with raiders, ghouls and super mutants running around
Have no idea why Todd and Amazon have a hard time doing this
Because any functioning society in such a world that they could realistically portray would earn them hate from the sort of whackos that are currently rioting for a country that would have them all nailed to crosses Caesar style.
same thing bethesda fricks up all the time. too much advanced tech too early. also, like bethesda, they keep fricking up lore. also the story makes no sense. Ella cute tho
Every single FNV faction is going to be off-screened in season 2, because a vault tec employee with ties to the enclave is going to a destroyed new vegas strip (no house)
I seriously don't understand why they're going to do New Vegas if they just plan on clearly not using any of the good stuff >NCR has been wiped out in the show so they're probably dead too >BoS should be all but wiped out, but because one of the main characters is a BoS they'll shoehorn them in >There should be fricking 0 enclave presence but they'll force them in >Mr House and every tribe is probably gone because Vegas itself was ruins in the finale >Followers of the Apocalypse absolutely won't be shown because Bethesda doesn't want any decent human groups to exist >Legion are an appropriate bad guy but they canonically have slaves and love rape which is too dark for their quirky little show so they wont exist either
Get ready for the most boring New Vegas experience possible, at best we'll get Primm and Novac, whoop di fricking doo
>Followers of the Apocalypse absolutely won't be shown because Bethesda doesn't want any decent human groups to exist
A member of the followers was willing to kill to steal water for Westside's shitty little community garden, while the big NCR farms would be left into a drought
It amazes me how Fallout 4 wrote Vault Tec better than this show. In the game, they have Vault 114 which is pretty much an unfinished vault that they kept delaying as a scam to keep workers on payroll while they worked on a different soon-to-be vault site. Whether through nuclear Armageddon or peace, the war ending would've been detrimental to vault tec's finance
Forcing me to look at that ugly mexican troony
Yeah way too many checkboxes.
Also they didn’t give a shit about fallout lore, they only cared about the marketing.
which one?
ironically the most aesthetic and cute "male" character in the show.
would be a 8/10 if they didn't have a pussy.
>"Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
I hate that hairline and unibrow so goddamn fricking much. They have like 2 square inches of clear forehead.
This plus the MC being a prostitute and the twist at the end was moronic and makes no sense considering that shady sands was built by vault dwellers
Pretty sure that was your reflection
Blowing up shady sands
Too many n's
Not enough full frontal nudity
Idk seems kinda racist and bigoted. Any non biased criticism?
I'm on episode 6 and it's quite alright, nothing to complain tbh. I like how the happy-go-lucky girl is very well contrasted with the disgusting rugged world so she isn't nearly as annoying as she could've been. The other plot with the soldier guy is quite good and the Ghoul is the best character in the show.
The anon complaining about lack of frontal nudity has a point though, specially from the pregnant lady. I usually don't find pregnant women hot for obvious reasons but that one is something different, I think it's the eyepatch
>I usually don't find pregnant women hot for obvious reasons but that one is something different, I think it's the eyepatch
It's not the eyepatch.
>m.jpg
Biased Criticism? More like Based Criticism.
But they royally fricking up the BoS. It's a bunch of militant tech hoarding isolationists not the fricking Adeptus Mechanicus. Moving Shady Sands to the Bone Yard and nuking it was fricking stupid. Ghouls need an unspecified drug to not go feral is new and moronic. Hell there's even a ghoul in 3 that said he went feral out of boredom for awhile but came back when that was even more boring.
The ghoul lore in the games doesn't even make sense. New Vegas says them going feral is irreversible and they're basically locked inside their mind while their bodies revert back to basic primal instinct
Fallout 4 says it's the radiation literally rots their brains. The original fallout, iirc, doesn't even mention Feral Ghouls so much as you aren't welcome in Necropolis and a lot of them will attack you on sight. I don't think 2 commented on them.
What's the serum in the show supposed to be? RadAway?
>The ghoul lore in the games doesn't even make sense.
they were a side mutation of diluted FEV mixed with contaminated radiation. The mutagen came from the destroyed west tek research lab (the glow). That is why the only place ghouls originated from was necropolis that go the bulk of the strain blown in their faces when their vault malfunctioned and did not seal. Only other TWO non necropolis ghouls were ofc harold and one ghoul mutant by the followers of the apocalypse. both of them got turned in Mariposa which was the new main FEV research site constructed just before the war and which chinks were unaware of and thus did not bomb
it made good enough sense in the original world logic. its bethesda that fricked it all up since all their leads are unironically shallow and stupid as frick
I really liked the show a lot, specifically the set pieces and costumes but I guess my criticism would just be basic shit, nuking Shady Sands is silly, Vault Tec doing the nuking stuff is silly, the NCR some how vanishing and being some small community is also silly. I don't really care about the extended ghoul lore, oh and making the BoS come off as some kinda cult was a weird take, I don't mind the darker tone and PoV of making the solders seem like buttholes but I never envisioned them being like the show portrayed
3 makes the BoS seem a touch weird. I mean, they have like scholars and rare texts and want to hoard all pre war shit which is practically magic. And live in a dark fortress closed off from outsiders while building a giant robot
Fallout 3s brotherhood was a breakaway sect. The outcasts are the Brotherhood of Steel.
kys homosexual
Just got here and I thought it sounded like that as well. May as well just talk like a normal gay.
It's good, really. They really put the high budget in use. The woke shit doesn't feel forced at all. Only thing that felt funny was indeed the transgender character in Brotherhood of Steel. I thought she was like Vasquez in Aliens and it was only during the last episode that she was supposed to be he. Not a big issue really but it made me laugh that how can they miss cast a person like that. Or was it stated somewhere that he's a trans in the show as well?
during the last episode I realised* she was supposed to be he.
>The woke shit doesn't feel forced at all.
Oximoron
Get the frick outta here homosexual.
Go back to tumbrlr and your safe space lgbabc friendly homosexuals
Why do people like you have to ruin things for the rest of us.
It was more than I ever expected from the show. I expected it to be as bad as LOTR TV show but it turned out to be a very nice series. Looking forward to the Season 2
how about you lick my taint?
NCR was some small hippy community in one town. Instead of a multi state empire complete with corrupt government being controlled by rich Brahmin barons. I mean they were waging a war with multiple military bases as far as Las vegas but in the show it was one town.
Also the vault tec plot to start ww3 made no sense how they presented it, would've been better if they interrupted peace negotiations and indirectly caused ww3.
>Also the vault tec plot to start ww3 made no sense how they presented it, would've been better if they interrupted peace negotiations and indirectly caused ww3.
That's basically what they imply to be happening in the show, except with the caveat that Vault-Tec is willing to drop the first bomb to achieve results (this is during a sales pitch meeting to some of the other big corpos so could be taken with a grain of salt, that scene does not confirm in any way that Vault-Tec actually set off any nukes in the Great War)
>I mean they were waging a war with multiple military bases as far as Las vegas
What's this about? New vegas canon?
>What's this about? New vegas canon?
Not even, NCR was far bigger than in the show even in Fallout 2
I don't remember the show saying they were limited to one town. My understanding was shady sands is the capitol.
T60 is so fricking ugly.
T-51b master race
reminder that having a black protagonist isn't woke
reminder that having two protagonists being romantic isn't woke
reminder that having a "israeli looking" protagonist isn't being woke
thanks!
you may now discuss the show!
forgot about this one
having an actor playing a character isn't woke
hiring anobjectively bad DEI actor to fill a quota is woke though, which is what they did. you can't tell me that troony gave a single solid or believable line delivery.
they are and it is
wrong
Reminder that wanting israel to burn is the most natural conclusion to come to when existing as a White person in 2024.
Hitler was right.
But commies and libetaliscucks wanted to get rid of him.
Whether these are woke or not depends on why they where done.
>Fallout Release
It's not woke! haha brand new show to enjoy! Don't listen to the trolls!
>week 1
woke isn't even real chuds, just watch the show you'll see!
>week 2
chuds are seething about how woke Fallout is, haha watch our show!
>week 3
The cope has been getting progressively more desperate. I can't wait to see what next week's corporate woke slop cope is.
Who cares if it is or isn't woke? The point is that all of those things are gross and make the show unwatchable.
They are woke when you put them all together.
Also include the troony and the interracial relationships
reminder only morons think posters calling fallout, a game where you could get gay married, woke for a women existing are real and not paid Amazon astro turf shills stirring up fake internet controversy a la ghostbusters
I'm sure most people can distinguish between "real woke-shit" and "omg, troony is a soldier, it's woke!"...
Fallout isn't woke.
If the whole show revolved around scouring the wasteland to find HRTs and nuking people who don't conform to pronouns, then there would be a case. But just because there is a female lead (as expected playing the games), a black BoS Knight (as seen in the games), and Ghouls (again, in the game)... they should know nothing about the show is ABOUT being woke.
finished yesterday, 8.6/10 on imdb is correct
very very good
managed to capture fallout game universe funny gory nonsense without corrupting it
the plot and pacing are great, even pre-war sequences made sense
>capitalization or punctuation
You leftypol morons really are subhuman.
I thought pacing was too fast at the start. But kept a good pace afterwards. Very good show. Not a lefty and Cinemaphile contrarians are moronic for trying to pick holes
Long time player of the fallout series, mildly excited for the series but after rings of power I was absolutely not expecting anything and really tired of identity politics in shows.
Fallout comes out, happy to see that the show actually follows the source material, but stopped watching after the first episode solely based on the fact that Amazon has no chill with these close-ups of black children smiling and acting wise, a trany being cheered on in the brotherhood of steel for no good reason then being the victim of a sorta hate crime followed by the grand knight referring to the troony as a "they".
Good God I don't mind any ethnicity or sexuality but write them in well, not as an afterthought, I refuse to subject myself to this because it just ends up bothering me and I can't enjoy my food when I watch the show, so overall I'm happy for them, but I wish it was made by some company who's not American and driven by the whole diversity division race you guys run in America
>topped watching after the first episode solely based on the fact that Amazon has no chill with these close-ups of black children smiling and acting wise, a trany being cheered on in the brotherhood of steel for no good reason then being the victim of a sorta hate crime followed by the grand knight referring to the troony as a "they".
you sound like you need more mental help than the trannies
you're not a real person though
"I stopped watching this show because because pol racist talking point #1, pol racist talking point #2, pol racit talking point #3, blah blah blah i just really hate black people"
and you wonder why trump lost
The brainwashing isn't in full effect outside of America - I can and do choose to consume content that tries to be good on it own two feet, without having to cram diversity in there for brownie points. When it's in the show - it's VERY obvious and distracting for non Americans
having an african american character isn't woke
>african american
you mean Black person?
It wasn’t 20 years ago. But it is now, fren. Once box checking became mandatory, you lost the plot. Cheers!
You would have been proud of the wokeness if the show had been made a few years ago.
I stopped after the first minutes when the nuke were presented in a low IQ unbelievable way. I knew that the entire show was written by mongoloids at that very moment.
You sound autistic lmao, Neil Degrassi Tyson ass homie
The black science man gets nukes wrong as well. No surprise that you idolatrize pop-sci morons to be honest, given your sperg reply.
>Why aren't these alternate-history, technologically-distinct nukes from my SciFi video game tv series the same as nukes from real life?
I kid because you haven't played the games obviously, but to answer your question: most of the nukes dropped in the "Great War" of Fallout lore were "smaller", less destructive nukes, but much dirtier and meant to release a shit ton of radiation and cause ecological collapse
The manual says they were normal sized tactical nukes, they are as dirty as any fission based bomb can be.
But no way that centuries later can the fallout still be a problem, that's pure video game fiction.
Also the nuking scene is so dumb you'd have to be beyond moronic to defend it.
I'm glad I've dodged a bullet, the show seems to have troony actors, shitty leftist room writing (how typical by now), interracial crap etc.
>racist chud pretends to be smart and knows le science
Find God and go in peace
>But no way that centuries later can the fallout still be a problem, that's pure video game fiction.
Of course it's fiction, you dumb homosexual. The radiation is magical and turns people in to zombies.
Try to enjoy life mate, otherwise you'll miss it.
You didn't play the first game huh? Or the second? 100 years after the war, there's only one seriously radioactive place in california, specifically from some chinese superweapon. By fallout 2 there's even less radioactive places.
same, more or less
once i started noticing shit like this, its ruined modern television for me
my issue is the israelite nose guy's time in the vault was the more entertaining part.
Why are white men so fragile?
You are a moron and if you just watched the rest of the show, your indignations against it would disappear.
why do all the Black folk and ping pongs magically get replaced by decent white folk?
Is this the most polarizing show for racists and incels who want something to complain about?
Nothing. The show can be it's own thing. Why does it need to be tied to two games nobody played and an incomplete game? Let them cook. Clearly it was good eating
Well that's the thing the show on its own is an abomination.
The only reason it even has unpaid shills is because of autistic fallout gaymers.
The show on its own is beloved by video game nerds and normalgays alike. Otherwise it would not be the success it is
The show isn't its own thing it ends with a shot of Hank shart-shuffling towards New Vegas
peepee poo poo
Racemixing
fanservice was literally the only thing that went right
Mostly nothing, it was kino.
Killing off a great actor for shock value
Appealing to China
Not enough representation Maximus and Dane should have been a couple instead of the boring romance we got
those first two things literlaly didn't happen btw
Shit editing. like ungodly awful editing. Felt like it was cut to air on prime time TV with ads.
Brotherhood of steel plot was kinda meh. Aaron isnt a compelling actor. Waste of Michael Christofers talent.
Ella was fine.... not a great actress by any means but she sold the caracter well enough.
I think this show needs better direction. While the show running in aggregate is ok. Scene to Scene it feels very discordant and the only constant is Walter Goggins high caliber of acting.
I liked it
I dont have any complaints
It is every bit as good as anything made in 2020 plus 4
The black guy sucks. Zero charisma
keep posting and bumping my thread racist we all know its you
Okay
I thought the chick on the right had a beak for a moment
Black folk
The blonde doesn't get naked
its the most reddit shit ive ever seen
now i havent played fallout, so i cant tell if this is a symptom of the game or just the adaptation but i cant stand the marvel tier quips
“he was fricking my chcikens lol!”
The games aren't intelligent or written well but this show was an abomination. It's rare to see something that bad.
>muh evil capitalists wanted nuclear annihilation because... because it's good for... LE COMPETITION
Holy kek who wrote that shit
Millennials. They hate capitalism despite it giving them the cushiest lives in the history of mankind
>bugman in a collectivist hellscape lectures anyone down
lmao, twitter is moronic
its intention of being a quirky mindfrick, undercutting every potentially deep or meaningful scene with some moronic attempts at humor, I think general audiences have become "Marvel-brained" and can't pay attention to anything unless funny man make a poo poo every two minutes. I've got some time to kill and want to look into what exactly everyone likes about this show. So far I've watched The Critical Drinker's video on it and he believes there's nothing "woke" about it, but after seeing the first 4 episodes I can't believe nobody's calling out its poor understanding of capitalism as borderline communist propoganda.
>Lucy isn't a Mary Sue because she gets beat up and has to live with her consequences
consequences that are all immediately undone because stimpaks are magical full cures and severed limbs are immediately replaced by other rotten severed limbs. Rey Palpatine would've still gotten shit after bypassing the compressor if she did so and quickly explained that she read about compressors as a kid but it's okay when Lucy does the same thing with power armor?
>rooting for Maximus
hahahahahahahahaha how drunk does this guy get?
>only criticism is the fact that there are green plants in it
Odd, because this is the only thing that's actually consistent with the games. He claims to have played and enjoyed the whole series but he's never seen Oasis? Vault 22? Did he somehow forget what the purpose of the GECK was? Does he actually write for Bethesda?
Aside from him a bunch of homosexuals in my discord keep saying my complaints won't matter in season 2 because that's going to answer for everything, so either they're also Bethesda writers who already know that the second season will retroactively improve the first or everyone's forgotten about this argument being used for Star Wars TFA and being proven wrong.
Any fans wanna pitch in? What's good about this show?
fun fact. drinker has in fact not played the games. he lied. shocking i know.
He did the same for the 40k stuff. He got normal Space Marines lore mixed up with Adeptus Custodes its clear he has no fricking idea what he is talking about or he is truly half a bottle deep of Jack Daniels at all times like a true incel scotsman
i bet he dosent drink either and hates alcohol.
Aren't you the guy who wrote an article on Fallout in Independent? Because your post is equally gay
It doesn't feel anything like Fallout.
how?
Not a lot outside of a couple of possible plot holes (but they could be resolved in season 2), and some poor dialogue in a couple of scenes. Overall it was a strong season that was received well by almost everyone, did so well here we had shills making threads daily trying to convince people it was bad.
Looking forward to season 2/
Same thing with the EXACT same people who tried to push le Barbie is bad narrative because they are trying to stir up ire and draw attention to their "this is the REAL truth" youtube videos
production was pretty good.
detail as well.
but it still felt like a fan made cosplay on youtube.
the israeli cucks obvious had their greedy hands in it.
its star wars the force awakens part 2.
the story line at the end didnt make sense. its obviously the ghoul's family is in the vault with all the hibernating employees. if not, thats a perfect area to start waking people up and asking with a gun. but for 200 years he hasnt thought of that?
Why do you think Goggins knows where Vault 31 is or what it contains?
I'm not a big fan of them resetting the west and the Brotherhood being as big as they are on the east coast now.
Outside of that no complaints it's very true to Fallout and well handled. It takes most of its visual cues and aesthetics from 4 I'd complain because I prefer others but it works well.
The lead is pretty charismatic and the ghoul character is pretty solid as well. I'm interested to see where they take the BOS character. I've actually really liked how they have handled the Vaults so far.
>it's very true to Fallout
The fallout games were never as woke and communist as the show. You're moronic, leftypol.
Discussing the positives and negatives of various ideologies, having people of different races (and indeed different species/mutants/ghouls etc) and having them interact is not "woke" and is in the games from the beginning
The only arguably woke element of the show is the troony character and the character is basically a non-entity after the first 2 eps
>Discussing the positives and negatives of various ideologies
lol How naive could you possibly be? There's never any real political discussion in entertainment media or even in most news shows. It's all designed to promote the producers' views. You didn't notice how non-commies being demonized and the absurd shilling for communism?
>the only woke element is the troony
You didn't watch the show. If you had then you'd say
>prewar criticism of capitalism by people that don't know what capitalism is
>black lesbian political revolutionary and nuclear scientist BLACK WOMAN
>Goggins' wife whining about him going to war
That's because Goggins is a perfect cast
>That's because Goggins is a perfect cast
They absolutely 100% knocked it out of the park with that casting. He plays both the all-American Hollywood cowboy and the post-apocalyptic gunslinger so fricking well.
the obssesion with having tables in every fight scene is so wierd
People still watch Amazon shows?
I wouldn't call them people.
Generally I thought it was good and I did enjoy it. But I thought they should have leaned more heavily into Maximus being a psychopath or bad karma character, if that's what they were going for. Him trying to kill the other scribe didn't really make sense unless he's an evil person. Why not just explain to him that the knight was a coward who died running away, and he's going to finish the mission to become a knight himself?
I get the sense that Squires are slaves and are executed if their knight dies to ensure they don't run away or fail
This is actually explained near the end to the elder. The elder realized what happened between the two of them and recognized Maximus as having what it takes to do what is necessary. That being, taking power when needed.
Casting.
This. Too many ugly browns and blacks. Disgusting.
I enjoy the show more than I expected to. Todd Howard being an executive producer, it seems clear to me he hates the original games and New Vegas. The depiction of the NCR is shitty and weird. Seeing NCR ranger armor and it turning out to be some nobody dirt farmers was just disrespectful. I guess this is a Fallout 1&2 retconn because there is no way the Master missed all these vaults out in the open in the boneyard. Speaking of, nobody refers to LA as the boneyard. There is some shit editing in the show, just sloppy really. The filly gunfight. Goosey and Nigknight returning the fusion core to vault 4. They get tossed out of a vault and just turn around and toss the fusion core back to them down some stairs or something, how is that supposed to work? In general frick Todd.
Just treat it as a different continuity from the original games, and enjoy it for what it is.
But what it is isn’t good. Everything outside the vault story is shit. How the frick does everyone keep finding each other? It makes sense when they use the dog to track the head, but that only happens twice.
nta but I didn’t watch it, and I won’t because it looks stupid
I say give it a chance, it does a good job of capturing the atmosphere of the 3d fallout games. I was hesitant, but when I actually watched it I saw that most of the criticisms on Cinemaphile were from people who hadn't actually watched it. For instance the "vault-tec nuked the world to somehow sell more vaults, that doesn't make sense at all" is not what actually happens in the show.
No, if it had less black people I might give it a chance, but these days it’s a big red flag. Once you see forced diversity in the cast, you can already tell the writing and directing are going to be shit.
Define "forced diversity"
>Define "forced diversity"
A black little mermaid movie Disney did...
...because in the 1800s there was a significant black danish community to make people culturally believe that the Little Mermaid could be black.
Or how about the Green Knight movie, thinking a Pooinder could play as an Arthurian Knight?
TLDR, "forced diversity" is basically the inability to stay in one's lane. White people have their culture, black people have theirs. It doesn't make sense for a white person to be in the rap music business, that's why Vanilla Ice has been in the butt-end of many jokes for the past 30 years.
But a black person like NAS and Beyonce trying to break into Country music? that's just embarassing.... and for what? "Forced Diversity", breaking those walls down, ya?... Sometimes it just doesn't WORK.
>For instance the "vault-tec nuked the world to somehow sell more vaults, that doesn't make sense at all" is not what actually happens in the show.
It's quite literally what happened tho. First the indian dude explains that Vaul tec is undermining the peace negotiations because peace is not good when your business is to sell fallout shelter. At that point it actually kinda makes sense muh capitalism is bad blabla but ok... but then they dumb it down spectacularly in the last episode with the the meeting of all the comically evil muguls and the vault tec's rep explaining they will start themselves the nuclear apocalypse because it's good for competition.... It's so fricking absurd lmao. Capitalism thrive with a huge producers/consumers base not with fricking braindead ghouls, raiders stealing shit and vault people living quite literally like hippies in the seattle CHAZ
The point of that scene was to demonstrate Vault Tec, amd all the corporate heads that owned the US government, were authoritarian Communists that used the language of capitalism like a skinsuit
>just pretend it’s it’s own thing!!?!!?!!?!
Paid shills also tried this tactic with Dem Rangz, Nigflix Witcher, and Nigflix Bebop.
This is objectively cope. Bethesda have outright stated it is the same continuity as the games.
well that's dumb because it clearly isn't
According to what? Your "headcanon" (read:cope)
Bethesda has only made fallout games that take place on the East Coast. That is a deliberate writing choice. They did it because they didn't feel comfortable continuing the work of the Fallout 1&2 teams. Todd was salty as frick that Obsidian managed to make a game as faithful to the originals as NV. It only makes sense that their first attempt at returning to Fallout's roots would miss a lot of beats.
If I have to pretend something is something it isn't to enjoy it, that means I have to pretend to enjoy it. I won't do that.
no, you just have to stop letting inconsistent lore bother you, especially when the lore in all the fallout games has always been all over the place
It wasn't all over the place between 1&2. New Vegas managed to do it's own thing without contradicting 1&2. Only Bethesda has a hard time with consistency.
This. For 1&2 Interplay had a Fallout Bible specifically so there wouldn't be any inconsistencies. You'd think leftist revisionists who've "always been Fallout out fans" would remember this.
No.
Wrong it is canon even though I have a soft sporlt for New Vegas and believe House was 100% in the right.
>ghouls now are both somehow immortal and destined to go feral
>far too wacky
>absolutely no stakes felt by the characters, people can walk on half shattered feet with mild discomfort and you can lose a finger with just a wince
>vaults don’t make any sense
>NCR nuked, the remnants are weird cult people
>somehow found a way to blame capitalism for the worlds problems, promoting communism
>vault-tec forced the war to happen so their vaults could sell more? Who would buy them after the world ends?
>editing is fricked, each cut is half a second too early and it feels like you’re an ADHD kid
>show expects you to care when none of the characters do
Bethesda marched fallout into an open grave.
it's clear that you didn't actually watch the show
How so
The quality of anything made past 2015 is Bollywood-tier and absolute shit.
Sure, the woke shit makes it nauseating. But the overall quality itself is putrid outside of that.
>what went wrong?
With the show, nothing. Its great. It's just what the fans wanted.
With you? You were rejected by women but instead of learning and growing you became a bitter incel, retreating behind sexism, racism and transphobia instead of facing your own failings. You became attached to a franchise that was never for you due to your own lack of media literacy, deluding yourself into thinking you were some kind of "lore master", gatekeeping a franchise which has always been for everyone.
So when a show is released for the real fans of the franchise, with the same message the games have always had - you throw a temper tantrum.
I think the last episode kinda shit the bed after a very solid season. the ghoul taking down the BoS knights like that was just the pinnacle of silly, among other things.
also how is destroying shady sands equal to destroying the whole NCR? I thought some enemy faction like the Legion was going to be revealed and they were responsible, but I’m supposed to believe agent copper did it all by himself? cmon now
NCR was shown to have serious systemic and political flaws in New Vegas, so a rogue terrorist destroying the capital in one day caused the entire structure to disintegrate. I won't be surprised when it turns out there are other NCR factions throughout California that all claim to be the legitimate government
never in the history of mankind a single person was able to demolish a nation state just like so in a single day.
they clearly wanted to set the story in California but at the same time set it in a lawless wasteland instead of an organized society. they could have just set the story somewhere else but laziness won.
If you nuked Baghdad the rest of Iraq would disintegrate pretty quickly; same with Damascus, Beirut, and most African states
they wouldn’t though, not when there is no invading force pushing for surrender or annihilation. most likely scenario is the army generals would take power and move the capital somewhere else.
the NCR was huge and it had a well established hierarchy and chains of supply, one city getting pulverized wouldn’t mean instant anarchy, that would be incredibly lazy writing.
>Bethesda
>Production team wich doesn't give a flying frick about lore
Well, I guess that's it for the NCR
>army generals would take power
And then they'd start fighting with each other, and ethnic groups would start fighting, and rival powers would start clawing for influence, amd before you know it donkey caravans are the most reliable form of transportation because there's no big USA around to bail out your collapsing society. We've seen this kind of shit happen after natural disasters, you stupid Black person. How long do you think it would have taken for New Orleans to return to normal if it was just the LA state government trying to rebuild?
it’s shit lazy writing worthy of Bethesda, end of, cope on though Todd
>did it all by himself?
well, him and a nuke but yeah
nothing
it's top tier kino
you said the same about dem rangz do
It suffers from exactly the same problem as pretty much every modern TV show.
>characters act like dumb caricatures who talk in quips and zany one-liners all the time
>no internal consistency, things happen to move the plot forward regardless of how ridiculous or unbelievable it is
>this is made even worse by them using video game logic (stimpaks, for example) to just do whatever they want
>ugly and cheap looking with an over reliance on CGI, and overly vibrant color grading
>absolutely terrible pacing, tries to cram too much story in, yet somehow also moves too slow due to the story being so fractured
>all the usual forced tokenism, strong woman and strong black man fighting back against their oppressors (white men)
It’s just shallow garbage, made with no passion or care, attempting to appeal to nostalgia for a quick buck. It’s basically the TV show version of Fallout 4, a bastardised commercial product, wearing the skin of a beloved franchise, made by a bunch of corporate suits who don’t understand the series and only care about the bottom line. Textbook slop.
It made troony Vegas not canon which is giga based
I can't get over how lame the power armor designs are. Is that what they look like in the games?
shut up
they look like walking tanks, that's the point of power armor
I think it's mainly the helmets that look lame, the rest fits the walking tank aesthetic
yeah the helmet looks moronic ngl
yeah they aren't supposed to frickin open up like that
>what went wrong?
it is called Cultural Marxism.
Absolutely moronic writers.
The Ghoul, Maximus and Thaddeus were my favorite characters.
I really liked the friendship that him and Thaddeus were building up until this point. Hopefully Thaddeus and Maximus can rekindle it in season 2 now that he's most likely turning in to a super mutant or a ghoul. They had the type of friendship that dudes their age would have with one another.
To clarify, I mean the friendship they were building up to the point where Maximus revealed himself to Thaddeus.
Honestly? Nothing major
>Honestly? Nothing major
Pewdiepie if he real
I couldn't get past the brotherhood knight fight with the bear.
You hype them for the whole time as some sort of superhero in tin costume and they run from 1st fight like a b***h ?
Not even 30s before they spouted like only the ones who do brave deeds get to wear the armor ?
>also, the worst fallout weapon designs for assault rifle or whatever the frick was that
>bear dies to a single 10mm bullet afterwards because we need the lad to take the armor.
Someone who finished it please also explain to me how the frick did the raiders even get to vault in the 1st place.
literally the point. They're moronic larpers. They're not cut out for the wastelands. The whole order with the marking, the squire humilation rituals, le strong silent type: it's all fluff.
Then they would not last 200+ years dumbass. I don't get this, how the frick do you expect me to believe they are organization that
>Has full hierarchy of training regime, ranking and seniority for hundreds of years
Yet frick up everytime we need it.
>Access and understanding of pre war technology
Fricks up the 1st moment they use it
It feels like cognitive dissonance of writers who can live only in scene they are currently writing and anything before or after doesn't exist.
they have wealth, numbers and loyalty but they're incompetent on a personal level. Many armies are like that, the Indian Army could prolly rule over a big part of asia but it doesn't mean I would trust a jeet not to detonate a grenade in the barracks
The knights are wannabe tough guys but power tripping pussies, the squires are brainwashed fangirls and the priests fanatic cult leaders. They lay that out on ep 1 or 2
The Brotherhood that is is not what it once was; the Elder explains this to Maximus right before the assault on the observatory
>The whole order with the marking, the squire humilation rituals, le strong silent type: it's all fluff.
Bethesda made them the face of the brand, so there's no way they would ever imply that. It's just comic relief.
The show goes a different direction, + bethesda has been pushing vault boy quite a bit more in recent games
BoS are Fallout's secondary protagonists now, instead of the reclusive zealots they're supposed to be. This show abolished the NCR just so the BoS could retain their place as the face of the series unopposed.
>BoS are Fallout's secondary protagonists now
>now
They already were in FO1.
It's been a while, but iirc they only had an entrance to a missable bunker and no impact on the plot. They've always been an isolationist faction outside of 3 and 4.
They help you take down the super mutant base.
The Raiders had Lucy's mom's pipboy which they pried off her arm after she got ghoulified in the Shady Sands nuking
>Introduce Muldaver as a raider warlord
>In the last episode she's an NCR revivalist with no connection to raiders of any kind
???
>Vaulters who have never left the vault in 200 years cant tell the difference between NCR and Raiders
I am so chocked, this complexity ruins the 30 year canon of fallout forever more! God damn woke mind virus!
No, moron. I'm saying that in episode 1 Muldaver lead a bunch of raiders into the vaults to murderrape the occupants (for some reason) and in the final episode she was le heckin wholesome wasteland saint that has zero connection to raiders and was actually trying to provide LA with free unlimited electricity out of pure altruism.
It makes no fricking sense. They literally forgot what she did in episode 1, much like they forgot about the Ghoul knowing the power armor's weak point when he was fighting Maximus.
Means justify the ends. Easy concept for most.
>Contrived TV writing
>troony
>Lorebreaking
>Dumbing down and sanitising aspects of the universe
>Reduced aesthetic
>Flooded the fanbase with TV normies with lower standards
Ultimately that's all Bethesda's fault and not due to it being a bad adaptation.
How long would it take a person to walk from LA to New Vegas in power armor?
He used fast travel.
They can fly, this was established in like episode 2, keep up zoomer
It's 270 miles so if you're moving at a fast clip of 5 mph you can get there in about a month
>a month
270 miles at 5 mph is 47 hours of travel, which can be done in under a week
They can fly you fricking morons
not canon
Right rockets
There is potential in the idea of a Fallout TV show in the style of classic Fallout, following a character around the world, dedicating an arc to each new settlement and the issues they're facing in a post-apocalyptic society. Introducing an overarching threat and new part members as it goes along.
Of course that was never going to be what they did so we get Bethesda 50s nuclear theme park slop
This show makes a good argument for games as a medium. Lots of anons have ideas for making it better, but in the end film can't capture the scope and atmosphere of wandering around a fictional world full of its own lore and rules. There is a "Fallout feeling" that you can't explain to people who haven't played one of the games.
finished the show yesterday It was fun but the plot made no sense. Mostly just made me want to pick up FO3
Anyone else found it funny when the wife used the Clinton "Woman have it worse in war" line cause they have to wait at home for their husbands to get maimed and die slowly in pain for her freedom to frick chad on the rebound?
>now that the dust has settled
This is one of my favorite meta memes here
It's lazy and instantly forgettable like all streaming exclusive media
Not enough NCR destroying
>lawful good
Why are they bringing D&D alignments into Fallout?
Fallout has a reputation system, not alignments.
uh le nerdy things are the same chud get used to it
What were the results?
Immediately recognized Hank from when he was on Law and Order: SVU and shot that kid
>There's one difference. Jake would've killed again, I won't.
too close to the games, needs more changes!
they made it gay and bad instead of making it cool and good
why is vault tec in the show at all bethesda fricking sucks at writing
vault tec is important in all games except NV
vaults are. vault-tec is mostly irrelevant
It was made in current era fore the "modern audience"
Cut out the n1gger, cut out the troony and cut out the dyke Indian lady and it's good. Keep Ella Purnell and Walton Goggins as the sole duo leads and that's it.
Holy heckarino reddit sisters! They heckin nailed it yall! Nothing woke about this show! Literally not a single flaw with the writing or characters!
More like what went right.
Not as woke as you'd expect something made in the US in 2024 to be, but I hate that it's cannon. Essentially retconned NV, and cannonized BoS ending for fo4
>Not as woke as you'd expect
it has troons, Black folk, interspecies relationships, le captiatlism bad guys, forced diversity and the list goes on. kys
Yeah the show is mid to watchable
But make no mistake that it's loaded with propaganda
if it is loaded with propoganda it is not watchable or mid. Unless you enjoy zog brainwashing
It's less in your face than normal
I ding my bells a few times each episode
>it has troons
I never said it's not woke at all, I said it's not as bad as I expected
>Black folk, interspecies relationships, le captiatlism bad guys, forced diversity and the list goes on
putting black people in the LotR universe or wheel of time is forced diversity. putting them in an American setting is not forced diversity
the blackboard scene states that Shady Sands got nuked 4 years before the battle for Hoover dam
>an American setting is not forced diversity
its not "an American" setting. Its an idealized 50s futuristic setting, ever see Black folk or ching chongs in Leave it to Beaver or The Andy Griffith Show?
seethe, chud
I accept your concession
The fact that you wouldn't see them in a 50s tv show doesn't mean they didn't exist. It's entirely reasonable for all races to exist in a series set in 2300 muttistan.
it's one thing to change details and another to just straight up cannonize endings and retcon entire games. the worst part is that from todd's cope explanations, it doesn't even seem to have been intentional
>exist in a series set in 2300 muttistan.
they where a small minority in the setting this would take place in, and also largely localized in the south, and nowhere to be found where these stories take place. Stop helping these israelites create a false narrative.
who was a small minority? do you have racial statistics for fallout's America? You're just pulling shit out of your ass now, the games were full of blacks and asians
>who was a small minority?
Black folk. in the 50s America had a 89.5% white population. No need to make shit up when you can look it up yourself.
the fact that in the fallout universe the transistor wasn't invented and cold war only intensified with time doesn't somehow change the trajectory of the racial makeup the US would have by the time of the war
You clearly don't get the setting. Its a stylized 50's view of the future. Which never included a flood of Black folk, beaners, street shitters or chinks.
no, it's not. models in fo1 and 2 look like 80s rednecks with mullets. fo3, which established the aesthetic, is full of brownish mutts
>fo1 and 2 look like 80s rednecks with mullets
so white people? weird
> fo3, which established the aesthetic
lol
is fo3 and fnv completely filled with mutts? yes or no?
yes or no does not mean either is responsible for establishing the aesthetic. 1 and 2 did
>mmmm I will just personally pick and choose what to believe based on my want for the universe
Then why are these people all over ALL of the games. LMFAO
I couldn't imagine being the type of person who just comes up with random reasons in their head just to justify being angry
I couldn't imagine being the type of person who just cannot process oxygen without being blasted from all sides by images and noises of Black folk, troons, commies and corporate logos.
>Look at me! I'm different!
No, I am normal, you are some bay area freak with student debt.
Oh, I see
Eh, the Fallout timeline and general continuity has always seemed like a fricking mess to me, especially with each major event having multiple endings. As long as NV still exists I'm pretty much happy.
New Vegas is shown in the last episode implying the next season is set there
The Fall of Shady Sands correlates with the First Battle for Hoover Dam, which a citizen looking back might view as the beginning of the end if the Mojave adventure sucked away needed resources elsewhere
the tv timeline has shady sands nuked 4 years before hoover dam. shady sands was not nuked at the time. it's a retcon
>Retcons can easily be fixed with the notion that in a nuclear holocaust no one cares or is around long enough to record how history of such things actually happened.
I'm sure in Season 2 they'll cover up the plot-holes and retcons with some half-assed excuse.
>Essentially retconned NV
Huh? Granted it's been like 10 years since I played NV, but I don't remember anything the show would have retconned in it
Why did the NCR lady take a gang of literal moron raiders to the vault instead of NCR troops? I don't understand why the show drags out the imprisoned raiders in the vault subplot for so many episodes, with many scenes of them acting like screaming morons, if the reveal is to have her actually not be a raider.
So if she hired raiders for the job, why though? To hide the NCR's involvement from Vault Tec for fear of more nuclear reprisal is my assumption but it's an asspull one.
The writing was 60% garbage. The flashback stuff was its strongest stuff because it utilized the budget well and felt like an actual show. The humor was grading and everything involving the brotherhood of steel just came across as lame.
Also, cutting to the brotherhood in the middle of episode 1 and showing the wasteland totally ruins the moment later when it try’s to be all epic about opening the vault door. The fact that no editor thought about that is baffling and speaks of the quality of people working on the show
>Also, cutting to the brotherhood in the middle of episode 1 and showing the wasteland totally ruins the moment later when it try’s to be all epic about opening the vault door.
Holy shit 100% this.
The show entirely undercuts the moment the vault door opens, it's moronic for the first glimpse of the wasteland to be an established Brotherhood of Steel camp complete with vertibirds and the airship, essentially a functional developed society.
The state of the outside world should be discovered alongside Lucy. Especially if you're introducing audiences unacquainted with Fallout lore.
Like, make episode 2 the Maximus intro episode instead. What the frick were the editors thinking.
Also the geography makes no sense - characters are constantly moving from desert, to forest, to tundra, back to desert. Woods look super cheap and LARPy and they keep defaulting to them for extended scenes
the dust for this show settled a fricking million years ago. Cinemaphile are the only still talking about. just shut up
Shitty humor
It was great and it made vidya gays seethe to no end, which is always a win in my book
>what went wrong?
Not showing what a bustling city looks like in a post post apocalypse. The whole point of Fallout is to see what that society (and its morals) looks like in a post nuclear war setting with raiders, ghouls and super mutants running around
Have no idea why Todd and Amazon have a hard time doing this
that would be expensive
Because any functioning society in such a world that they could realistically portray would earn them hate from the sort of whackos that are currently rioting for a country that would have them all nailed to crosses Caesar style.
>not woke
>show adaptation of an action videogame series
>female lead
>upstaged by a secondary character played by a real fricking actor
Haven't watched it yet, I pirated it, but I'm betting those are its biggest flaws which end up dragging the entire thing down.
>dragging the entire thing down
Weird that the show did well and is portrayed well
same thing bethesda fricks up all the time. too much advanced tech too early. also, like bethesda, they keep fricking up lore. also the story makes no sense. Ella cute tho
Every single FNV faction is going to be off-screened in season 2, because a vault tec employee with ties to the enclave is going to a destroyed new vegas strip (no house)
I seriously don't understand why they're going to do New Vegas if they just plan on clearly not using any of the good stuff
>NCR has been wiped out in the show so they're probably dead too
>BoS should be all but wiped out, but because one of the main characters is a BoS they'll shoehorn them in
>There should be fricking 0 enclave presence but they'll force them in
>Mr House and every tribe is probably gone because Vegas itself was ruins in the finale
>Followers of the Apocalypse absolutely won't be shown because Bethesda doesn't want any decent human groups to exist
>Legion are an appropriate bad guy but they canonically have slaves and love rape which is too dark for their quirky little show so they wont exist either
Get ready for the most boring New Vegas experience possible, at best we'll get Primm and Novac, whoop di fricking doo
>Followers of the Apocalypse absolutely won't be shown because Bethesda doesn't want any decent human groups to exist
A member of the followers was willing to kill to steal water for Westside's shitty little community garden, while the big NCR farms would be left into a drought
>what went wrong
Lot's of people don't know that Amazon owns IMDB so they took the reviews seriously.
Was Maximus autistic or does the actor always talk like that?
It amazes me how Fallout 4 wrote Vault Tec better than this show. In the game, they have Vault 114 which is pretty much an unfinished vault that they kept delaying as a scam to keep workers on payroll while they worked on a different soon-to-be vault site. Whether through nuclear Armageddon or peace, the war ending would've been detrimental to vault tec's finance
same thing as with the mandalorian
what went wrong? Gee I wonder
Besides the ugly troony they retconned the lore to the point where the entire plot of New Vegas makes no sense.