Now that the dust is settled, what did /do/ think of the new Spider-Man game?
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Now that the dust is settled, what did /do/ think of the new Spider-Man game?
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They hated it because Miles is in it and they couldn't keep Petah's dick in their mouth the whole game
>and they couldn't keep Petah's dick in their mouth the whole game
t. Miles troony
Wrong board
I think they handled everything to do with the symbiote and Venom horribly. It felt like an endless stream of superficial comic book references by people who only ever saw a couple art scans floating around and never actually read any of the relevant comics.
>Venom is a big buff monster just cuz that's how Venom is! I'm sure it has nothing to do with the underlying human at all.
>Venom can turn MJ into Scream because... well, it just can because I saw Scream on a comic cover before and Wikipedia told me she came from Venom! This MUST be how it works, right?
>Venom gets wings because remember that one time Venom got wings in that one comic? Must just be something Venom always does for no reason!
And on and on and on...
All of those things you listed are not exactly marks for this interpretation/universe.
I listed them as marks against this interpretation, not marks for it. Not everything has to be exactly the same as the comics, but there's a point at which you start copying everything from the comics and implementing it so poorly and with so little understanding of or regard for the source material that it becomes offensive. They crossed that line pretty quickly.
Does venom even camouflage? Or is that just something Marvel's more or less forgotten he can do?
He couldn’t in game because it would detract from miles anon
Speaking of camo I legit forgot miles had invisibility for like the entire game, not like it mattered anyway
Yeah, people always forget Venom was originally buff because Eddie Brock was fricking jacked.
Also
>You may call me Venom-for that is what I'm paid to spew out these days.
Marvel had an odd bit of foresight there.
It's just boring. There's nothing in the game that feels cool. Being Spiderman should be great. Here it is boring and gay. New York is a horrible and dangerous place. At least it should be in fiction that's why it's interesting. Here you feel like you're in a Pepsi commercial. Peter's personality in these games is that of wood. I'm sorry but to adapt a character you have to capture their personality correctly. What made Peter famous was that he was a normal person, not a stereotypical hero. He got angry and sometimes was a dick. The Peter of the game is the most stereotypical hero possible. he is like the boy from Boku no Hero. the side quests are super boring and gay. Why not have cool missions with comic book villains? Instead we have to help some children with their homework. There are almost no elements of the world of spiderman in the game. Miles takes a lot of time away from the story and Peter keeps kissing his feet every chance he gets. mj is the type of girlfriend that only men with no self-esteem have. Peter from the comics would never stand a girl like that when he can go with any other woman in his harem. bad adaptation of last hunt and then it just becomes a gay version of web of shadows.Summary. Gay and lame
>New York is a horrible and dangerous place. At least it should be in fiction that's why it's interesting. Here you feel like you're in a Pepsi commercial
NY, especially downtown Manhattan, is extremely gentrified and cleaned up
Lame.
Marginal. Adequate. One full step worse than spider man one. Better writing than into the spider verse 2, Worse writing than into the spider verse 1.
primary use is for trolls to pretend to be leftypol or chuds to shitpost.
The TL/DR is CORPORATE SHLOCK. Think dumb hollywood adaptation levels of car.
Arkham city at least deeply cared about getting it's references right-ish and didn't get completely sidetracked with completely tacked on shit.
He'll be back. They know how much the Miles game sold.
>He'll be back. They know how much the Miles game sold.
Do you really think that will stop them from trying and then videogame magazines starts accusing all the people that didn't buy Spider-Man 3 all the -isms they can come up with.
Keep in mind, I'm counting pulling shit like the Netflix He man where they kill peter 15 mins into the game, and then bring him back for 4 scenes in the game as bringing him back.
He'll be on the cover at least.
its definitely presenting as ragebait to low-t white incels
Dilate
It's a fine game, just not a lot to do in the post campaign yet
the more I marinate on it the less I liked it, and I already didn't like it
somehow managed to be way too short but also feel bloated and overstay its welcome
What was wrong with Scream, the bike ride, the rhythm game, or Black Cat leaving?
the fact that the game is 15 hours long and the majority of the time you are spent doing bullshit mini games instead of actually playing as spider-man
the fact that instead of mary jane stealth they actually had a stealthy female character you could've played as which would make sense so they needed to get rid of her somehow with a lesbian virtue signal sprinkled on top
and when MJ is acting evil and saying nasty things to peter he has absolutely no spine and just apologizes instead of challenging her and calling out her bullshit
>harry does bad things under symbiote influence
>he was being mind controlled it's not his fault
>MJ does it
>she was being mind controlled it's not her fault
>peter does it
>FRICK THAT GUY!
>and when MJ is acting evil and saying nasty things to peter he has absolutely no spine and just apologizes instead of challenging her and calling out her bullshit
You know the shit she was saying when infected was completely right, right? That and he was trying to reach her inside the symbiote. Also your second half point is completely off the mark because he desperately pleads with Harry the entire time before he tells Peter "Dude, just kill me, I can't fight it"
>You know the shit she was saying when infected was completely right, right?
wrong,
she spent the whole first game putting herself in danger demanding to be a more active part of the spider-man shit, and then without telling him she just changes her mind and decides to bottle up her quiet resentment until it boils over
she knew what a relationship with him was going to be, she CHOSE to start dating him again, any dissatisfaction she has is completely on her.
and the complete falsehood that he doesn't support her career when the entire hook of miles morales is peter left town for several weeks to go help MJ write her shitty book overseas an be her personal photographer. It's not his fault nobody read her book.
just the sheer level of narcissistic entitlement this woman has to knowingly get into a relationship with a man that has a responsibility to protect the 8.5 million people in NY and is running himself ragged trying to do it and demand that in addition to that he supports her (thriving mind you) journalism career and abdicates that duty because she doesn't like her boss much
Does MJ have to constantly have to sabotage her own happiness/career to fit Peter's lifestyle? Yes or no? Did she have to write an article she doesn't believe in, trashing her boyfriend, in order to make sure she can financially support them both? Yes or no? Is Peter one of the most unreliable people ever to be in a relationship with? Yes or no?
She's not a narcissist, she's pointing out the natural frustrations and challenges dating a superhero.
>she's pointing out the natural frustrations and challenges dating a superhero
which she knew going into
they were previously in a relationship, broke up over this exact shit, then she got back into a relationship with him despite him showing absolutely no signs of changing. That's her being a vapid moronic woman. Peter did nothing wrong, this is who she is and she knows that. Go date someone else
Anon they were deep rooted feelings the symbiote was exploiting. Like, I can fricking hate my spouse for doing certain shit, but acknowledge it's give and take and not verbally express it
I realize those were her feelings but her feelings were wrong and peter had nothing to apologize for
but instead he groveled like a spineless coward
MJ PLEASE! IM SORRY! ILL DO BETTER!
peter you're already doing more than any man could ever be expected to, and every day putting others ahead of yourself at your own expense and to your own detriment. and she wants you to put her in front of all of them
frick her, she's toxic and you don't need her
>peter you're already doing more than any man could ever be expected to, and every day putting others ahead of yourself at your own expense and to your own detriment. and she wants you to put her in front of all of them
>frick her, she's toxic and you don't need her
This. It's not like Raimi's Spider-Man where Peter literally neglected her and wasn't there when she needed him so she had to find someone else who WOULD be there. PS Peter is there for MJ constantly and she just doesn't think he does "enough" without any real justification for thinking that.
>Does MJ have to constantly have to sabotage her own happiness/career to fit Peter's lifestyle?
No, MJ is selfish and a manipulator.
>Did she have to write an article she doesn't believe in, trashing her boyfriend, in order to make sure she can financially support them both?
No, MJ is incompetent.
>Is Peter one of the most unreliable people ever to be in a relationship with?
No, given his life he's actually a very reliable partner and MJ should be on all fours thanking him for enduring the petty abuse.
>She's not a narcissist
She is. Quite a big one too.
>she's pointing out the natural frustrations and challenges dating a superhero.
No, she's being an unreasonable c**t about her frustrations. She doesn't apologize. She doesn't stop and ever think her attitude over since the first game. She just throws tantrums again and again until she ends in a position where she tops her superhuman pet. She dares to berate the guy who stretches himself thin to save people over having a break for pizza, for frick's sake.
>Flat out lying
>Didn't refute a single point
Kek you have issues dude.
Says the one dimensional sociopath worshipper.
>Still no argument
The game has issues, no denying that. You're just moronic with a weird bias
>You know the shit she was saying when infected was completely right, right?
Wrong. You have to be a sociopath to side with this MJ.
See
>MJ is so weak-willed that she immediately succumbs to the symbiote and it gets full control.
Ha!
You mean like everyone else in New York?
You're a psycho
>MJ is right to call Peter a broke loser who always gets in the way of her personal career
Wrong, c**t. All of the females in the game are particularly shitty to Peter, way more than Jameson even
It’s so weird how the game knows how to do proper bro friendship but totally fails with intimate romantic relationship. The agent venom & Spidey team up mission was better written than anything with Peter & Miles or Peter with ANY woman
Either the devs/writers don’t know what a healthy loving relationship is, or they did it on purpose because it’s an easy way to make drama. Too many writers think healthy relationships are “boring” and that they need to be toxic to be “interesting”.
The bike and rhytm game are fine imo
BLACK gay is a problem. Peter already was kissing MJ's ass in the first game and it just didn't get any better from that point. Oh sure, she can just sprint towards some muscular dudes and zap them with her new taser because she was a couple of weeks in some shitstain country. Lois Jane somehow even looks worse than in first game with her face just being a square. Absolutelely hate the propaganda (female Hunter kicking ass of some guy Hunter in Kraven's mansion and dominating him physically? Wtf?)
Having mute girl as super important to Miles just feels like pandering. Random gays everywhere.
The woke podcsatser being the one aware of evil black suit while noone else figures it out until it's too late.
And Spangshlish is fricking moronic.
I haven't been entertained by this type of game since Arkham City back in 20-fricking-11.
>muh open world city
>muh attack-gadget-dodge-parry combat every game uses as a default
>muh side quests and radiant events
>muh travel mechanic
>muh cinematic set pieces and QTEs
and none of it has any kind of skill ceiling. alternating light attack and dodge allows you to flawlessly beat every encounter in the game. when is this fricking industry going to even think about trying again?
The plot is a mess, quite frankly.
>Peter gets the Black Suit
>rather than having a corruption arc, he just gets mind-controlled into being evil
>everyone he interacts with knows he's being mind-controlled, taking the blame away from him
>he's never shown struggling with anything he's doing until Miles yells at him
>Miles has no real character arc aside from wanting to kill Mr. Negative
>ultimately, he decides not to kill Mr. Negative
>at no point does it ever really seem like Miles would actually kill Mr. Negative, though, to the point that he passes up the best opportunity in the game AFTER Li literally drags up the ghost of his father to insult him to his face
>Mary Jane is still just here to be a girlboss
>she's nicer to Peter than the last game outside of the Scream fight, I suppose
>but then she publishes a bash article about Peter to the Bugle to keep her job and the game treats this as okay and understandable
>then she quits her job, which is supposed to be a yass queen moment, even though she just sacrificed the integrity of her relationship for this???
>also, she can one-shot everyone not name Kraven and Venom with a taser gun that Peter and Miles should apparently be using instead of their spider powers
>Kraven wants to have a glorious final hunt before he dies
>but rather than hunting himself, he gets hundreds, if not thousands, of goons to hunt villains for him
>Scorpion, Mr. Negative, Sandman, Tombstone, and possibly more are all hunted and captured without him being present
>Venom literally shows up at the end of the game
>suddenly does a Web of Shadows plot in the final hour
>calls himself Venom despite wanting to cure the world?
>instantly dies
But it wasn't mind control with Peter? It was digging up and exploiting his insecurities to make everyone happy. It made him feel like he NEEDED it to improve his life. It doesn't really go mind control until it starts bonding with Harry to become Venom. As for MJ, the game doesn't treat this as a good thing. She didn't want to print it, and she quit because she didn't want to have a roof over her head if it meant trash talking her boyfriend
>but rather than hunting himself, he gets hundreds, if not thousands, of goons to hunt villains for him
He still fights them one on one? The mercs were there just to set the stage and enable him to die in combat.
I'll give you the MJ thing, but Peter literally starts getting brainwashed into being Symbiote almost from the moment the Lizard battle concludes. He even starts slipping in the Venom-speak to make it clear.
And while Kraven does fight the bad guys 1v1 (except when he fights Peter and Venom, where he calls in help), it still comes across as if he's being DoorDashed prey instead of actually doing the actual hunting. I think we only ever see him outright go after the Lizard.
>He still fights them one on one?
That's not hunting. He's not trying to prove he's the strongest fighter, he's trying to prove he's the greatest hunter. If someone captures a deer and locks you in a room with it and then you kill it with weapons you had prepared in the room, you did not hunt that deer.
Hunting is the kill, predator vs prey. It's not just tracking. What is there to track? They're in fricking New York, and people of interest. We're not talking about deer, we're talking about two creatures killing each other for survival. Kraven wanted to be bested in combat, victory from the other party through primal desperation. It's no different than him fighting that lion.
Hunting is about tracking AND killing. Familiarizing yourself with your prey and its surroundings, learning its weaknesses and blind spots, outsmarting it and catching it off guard, and THEN killing it after earning your kill with your cunning. Fighting someone in a boxing ring is not hunting. Kraven just wanting to 1v1 the strongest people defeats the purpose of his title as Kraven the Hunter.
On a more specific gameplay note, Kraven should have been a Mr. X style opponent that actually hunts you through the city and you cross paths with as he hunts down other villains. That would have been a lot more interesting, having him as an actual looming threat throughout the game that you have to deal with while dealing with other things.
I don’t play games, but
>but rather than hunting himself, he gets hundreds, if not thousands, of goons to hunt villains for him
>Scorpion, Mr. Negative, Sandman, Tombstone, and possibly more are all hunted and captured without him being present
Sounds so stupid.
Also, if you’re already doing the “Kraven wants to be better than Spider-Man” thing, why not bite the bullet and make HIM Venom in the finale? Thematically it would make sense.
Kraven wants to have some big apex predator kill him in this game, but admittedly his problems would be solved by the Symbiote latching onto him and killing his cancer.
The venom plot they were allegedly trying to go with would’ve made more sense with either kraven or miles getting the symbiot, pete getting it just felt bleh because they couldn’t DO anything with it other than make him b***hy.
I also feel the sidequests were mostly pointless and/or worse than the last two games
>Vulture Drone missions are just Super Man 64's flying through rings with their only purpose being to reveal The Chameleon for the sequel and/or DLC.
>Could have instead used Vulture for these parts who is working for Chameleon for some reason if Kraven hadn't killed him, Electro and Shocker off-screen.
>Mysterio replaces Taskmaster but they are ONLY generic combat challenges. No stealth sections, etc. despite Miles Morale's Peter Parker Training Sims having Stealth Challenges.
>Peter himself says in the above how important stealth is to being a Spider-Man but nowhere in Spider-Man 2 is stealth a required component (which makes Mile's Invisibility ability completely pointless).
>Followers of the Flame is just a set-up for Carnage in the sequel / DLC.
>Kraven Hideouts lead to Kraven Bases which in themselves lead to nothing.
>Same goes for Symbiote Hives.
>Only Sandman Crystals feel like they have a satisfactory conclusion and those can all be done at the start of the game.
>Finally, no Mission Replay, Kraven Hideout Replay, Symbiote Hive Replay or NG+ on launch (the last of which all Insomniac games from memory have had to date since the earliest Ratchet and Clank games in the early 2000s).
This game needed another 6 to 12 months in the oven but Sony knew they'd have no exclusives for the year. The fact that it has only sold 2.5m for what is supposed to be one of their main hooks into getting people to buy the console is not a good sign either. I must be the curse with consoles because the last one I bought was a WiiU in 2013 and this seems to be going down the same road.
>killing Shocker off-screen before even referencing the SHOCKERRRRR scene
I'll never forgive them.
Yeah, that was what I was worried about with the sequel. They took so long with the first one that a follow-up not long after was never going to be as tightly knit.
What I don't get is it's not like Insomniac didn't have the time. Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart was fine and fun, but I do not understand how you can expand the New York map by an additional half to two-thirds between the games yet have less content than the first one. Also remembered other things that bothered me with the sidequests and content:
>Spider-Bots just lead to a 40 second Spiderverse reference cutscene instead of something actually meaningful (E.g. Boss fight with Olivia Dock Ock)
>Half of Peter's suits are movie suits which could have been palette-swaps of each other (E.g. Dark Raimi Suit is a colour option for Normal Raimi Suit, most of the Tom Holland ones could have been combined into one slot, etc.)
>Most colour options for the suits are really bad, with only Superior and 2099 for Peter having decent options. Miles gets it slightly better.
>Most suits do not look good in any capacity. E.g. all of Mile's Symbiote ones, Mile's final suit, the Life Story and Hunter suits for Peter and Miles, etc.
Wasn’t JJJ fired from the bugle before the first game? Do they explain why he’s working with them again? And how bad of a writer is MJ that she’s fine with throwing the alleged love of her life under the bus like that? In the comics JJJ just writes everything he wants about spidey and doesn’t give a shit about other writers as long as they write the truth
It’s in the tie in comic. He just decides to come back and do he does
He wasn't fired, he just left to start his radio show. He bought the Bugle back because he missed it.
> And how bad of a writer is MJ that she’s fine with throwing the alleged love of her life under the bus like that?
She wasn't fine with it? That was the entire point. JJ was looking to clean house, and she catered to his Spider-Man bias to keep her job.
>In the comics JJJ just writes everything he wants about spidey and doesn’t give a shit about other writers as long as they write the truth
You mean exactly how he is in the game?
JJJ hates spidey and MJ hates peter it’s a match made in heaven
>MJ hates peter
No she doesn't. She felt like a sellout writing that article, and asked her name taken off it
Yeah, no
That's not an argument
She hates peter because of the way she treats him anon, I lent the first game to a friend game to a friend that genuinely hates comic books and he asked me if that’s how she ALWAYS treats Peter because she was genuinely a terrible person and a bad partner for him. Seeing her write a hit piece on him in the second game so readily really shows you how shallow and empty she is as a character and partner. But pete in this game is a b***h and a door mat to EVERYONE, so maybe he deserves to be in a relationship with an emotionally abusive partner
>I'm going to ignore what actually happened in the game so I can stay mad
You do you, anon
I know you’re not someone who actually understands how human interaction happens but MJ and peter are bad for each other in the game. They’re both poorly written characters and the way they NEED to write Peter makes MJ worse for him. I understand you’re a bendisgay and hate peter as a character, but you really think that ANY CHARACTER was well written in this game?
I have the same problem I have with Skurge in the Thor movie.
I think Kraven and Venom/Peter and Harries friendship, even Miles and Mr Negatives conflict, all suffer from a lack of depth, that could have been achieved by introducing characters and story arcs earlier or doing this story in a later game. Miles had his own entire spin-off game that they did not focus on his hang up with Mr Negative or the loss of his father nearly as much. But now, for plot, it's this huge underlying focus of his character. Maybe because he was safely tucked away in jail but still, it just was not a problem a game ago and so the conflict felt shallow. Same with Kraven who you could have as a villain or a side villain but to do his "Last Hunt" story. it fails to build him as a long time threat to Peter, all the goons you have to fight because it's a game also dampens the threat that Kraven on his own presented. I don't even think they revealed or dealt with Kraven weakening or need for a special serum that well. Venom and Harry basically the same, one let's sneak around a high school, and one let's play carny games together, is like the basis for their entire deep tragic friendship.
You have these games and movies and you say "We're telling our own version of this story" but then you leave out major character story building moments because you are counting on, leaning on the old canon stories to fill in the blanks or act as understood background for your story and it doesn't fit. It doesn't fit because you've changed things and haven't explained the changes, didn't build them up.You just jump to the climax. That was my biggest continuous gripe.
Game play was fun, don't understand why they insist on the MJ stealth missions they do nothing for me but, fun game play frustrating story. I thought the gliding mechanic was too strong, you could glide too long. Not that you had to but even that you could basically fly too an objective bugs me.
its fine. but it had no teeth at all. im surprised how little enjoyment i got from it. i didn't dislike it, i just didn't really care.
The game itself is fine but the Venom stuff was incredibly weak. Turning a concept as cool and personal as Venom into "evil alien that wants to conquer Earth" is lazy as frick.
And before some moron inevitably says:
>h-he was trying to help Harry in his own way!
Fricking no, it's heavily implied that the symbiote was manipulating him even back in the tank. Whenever his "mother" was telling him how to heal the world, it was the symbiote. World conquest was the goal from minute one.
Turning Venom into a Knull henchman was real shit. They managed to turn Anti-Venom into shit too.
Venom is a shitbag who wants to bully Peter. It's not supposed to more complicated than that.
there truly is no such thing as a product so great that its followup can't be run into the ground by drooling morons
I don't know why shareholders of every company aren't ousting every executive, I don't get why they're okay with losing so much money. Maybe they should retire from being a shareholder, and let someone else have their shares, if they're comfortable letting their value plummet.
https://gizmodo.com/spider-man-2-ps5-spoilers-interview-venom-miles-cindy-1850955935
>Miles Morales is taking the reins as the "main Spider-Man" from now, with Peter taking a backseat.
OH NO NO NO NO HA HA HA HA!!!
You know they're full of shit, right?
>"One of the Spider-Men can be strong when the other isn't."
I feel like this doesn't really happen with Peter very often. I guess he saves Miles from Kraven, but that's followed up by Miles saving him immediately after. Same with the Miles Morales game starting with Miles messing up, only for Miles to save the day by beating all of the goons and Rhino.
He cheesed that Rhino fight by the way. Peter doesn't need electric bullshit to beat Aleksi
Cheesing fights is the entire reason Venom Blast is a thing. Bendis gave it to Miles because Bendis hates writing fights so he wanted Miles to have an easy 'end fight" button so he didn't have to write fights.
How the frick did the mod successful comic writer in this age be so shitty? He writes shit fights because he hates them he has no idea how to write for kids despite being famous for writing a genre for kids. He started writing mysteries but ALL of his mysteries are built upon not giving enough information to the reader before the reveal
That's not what I mean. Original comic Miles could one hit bad guys with Venom blast, game Miles had to spam that a 100x
>Peter retires before any Goblins show up
Aaaaaaaaand it's shit
This guy gets it. They say he won't even show up in future games , it's really over.
OHHHHH NO NO NO NO I AM A MASSIVE MARK AND DONT REALIZE THE OL GUNSLINGER WILL BE FORCED OUT OF RETIREMENT LE KEK
and once again, proven right
>excuses already
nothing new
Pure shit
That's just what women call their friends. It doesn't mean she's a lesbian.
Felicia's canonically bisexual and this is modern Marvel, there's really no room for doubt here.
Bisexual just means "she's straight but we want diversity brownie points."
I think in the case of Felicia Bisexual means "the only reason a threesome hasn't happened yet is because Aunt May raise a good christian boy"
We know Peter literally fantasizes about threesomes with MJ and Felicia in that comic when he saw them both in costume.
My issue with these games is that they are really afraid to use the villians as side-stuff. I like some of the side quests regardless because it really does add to the "friendly neighborhood" aspect part of the character but these games only ever use ONE villian as a sidequest thing. I hope the 3rd game isn't afraid to go Arkham with it and just give us a full cast of villians as side content
>just give us a full cast of villians
Kraven killed most of them and some gave up the criminal life
the third game will be all about green goblin and doc octopus because there's literally no big name spider-man villains left
yeah I know but my silver lining would be that maybe they could focus on lesser known villians now.
> focus on lesser known villians now
Who's left? Stiltman? White Rabbit?
Stilt-Man is Daredevil. We got
>Vermin
>Beetle
>Molten Man
>Hydro-Man
>Vermin
>Looter
>Trapster
>White Rabbit
>Swarm
>Stegron
>The Spot
>Morbius
>Speed Demon
>Overdrive
>Kangaroo
>Coldheart
>Doppelganger
>Human Fly
>Tarantula
>Cardiac
>Boomerang
>Sin-Eater
>Jack O Lantern
>Chance
>Spider Slayers
>Lightmaster
>Mirage
>Big Wheel
>The Rose
>Slyde
>Puma
>Razorback
>Hypno Hustler
Morbius was in the first game even, so that could work.
I feel like the Spider Slayers would be a good fit for the third game given Norman's going after the Spider People personally.
Pic related would've been a better sequel
Spider-man dating game is the greatest game never made.
Only because of the Stormin' Norman post-game
wrong forum
>>>/do/
8/10 good but ultimately underwhelming
The good: improved combat and traversal, as well as engaging boss fights (on spectacular), pretty good main narrative w the Harry stuff
The bad: undercooked, thin, lacking. Needed way more and better side content, and as good as the combat felt it still could be better. Rushed story that seemed to be missing beats. Doesnt really feel next gen more like an extended DLC from PS4 game.
MJ being a journalist is such a lazy decision and all of her minigame segments sucked ass. I mostly liked the story between Peter and Harry, I thought Miles story wasn't bad either even if it's barely there.
Needed more supervillains, only fighting 3 is dumb as hell. Suit selection was pretty ass too. Overall liked the game though there were some really questionable choices.
Miles IS the only Spider-Man. Any questions?
Yeah. Did you ever get that n-word pass you wanted or do you still have to use SWEET CHRISTMAS.
How much of the Miles-based income you generate is donated to charitable black organizations?
It's 100%, right? You wouldn't profit off of black people, right?
Something that bothered me is Peter’s attitude towards Curt, and I don’t mean during the Lizard section. When he sees Curt at EMF he isn’t happy that Curt has been given a second chance, instead he’s worried about Norman’s hiring policy.
Was anyone else bothered by how much worse the music in the open world was than the first game's?
Yeah, it was jarring honestly
No Gwen no buy. I said that when they announced it and I fricking meant it. You want my money, give me what I want.
Not that it matters, my $70 wouldn't even be considered a drop in the bucket with how much the game made... it's more like a molecule.
Either way, I want to stare at Gwenbutt for an entire game. It's the only thing that could get me to play one of these otherwise boring as shit Spider-games.
I wonder if it'll get brought up in the DLC but there's something about Pete still having Anti-Venom that's wildly funny to me. So the ongoing adventures of lab nerd Peter. Parker and his tentacles moving shit around the lab would be fun to watch.
It is a fine game but there is some niggles:
>Couldn't access JJ audio files in the menu, these podcasts also played far less for me. Still fricking dumb that they stop the moment you start fighting a crime so you miss out.
>Crime mini games dumbed down, like stopping a moving car in the first game was much more involved.
>Cut the challenge content (Taskmaster/Screwball) which did have some bullshit missions but actually had challenges. I got gold in all of them. Mysterio challenges were all very easy bar one which took a couple goes to gold.
>Collectible missions still feel eh. They just tack on a scene at the end of them.
>Still not enough side quests and the ones we got are a mixed bag.
>Story suffers from the same problem as the first game where the second act is massively stretched out and the last act feels rushed. First game we got Kingpin first part, followed by the Martin Li stuff most of the game and Ock/Devils Breath felt rushed? This game we got Sandman first part, followed by Kraven (and Cult) most of the game. Venom and Symbiotes felt rushed. Symbiotes never properly hit for me. Felt like one minute they are there, then the city is fricked. Then it is a rush to the end. I mean doing the main story it would feel like you didn't have the Symbiote very long? The characters mention time frames and it is literally a few days?
>Side character mini games that are so story and feature light they still suck.
>Kraven build up only to be rather anticlimatic. Hunters never felt interesting. Main game at least changed up its bad guys a bit from generic criminals to Demons to Sable mercenaries.
>Stealth massively took a back seat and wasn't as interesting. The web line was overpowered.
>Skill tree was rather boring.
>Face changes (even Yuri looked bad).
>Open world still has little to do and explore, really need more fleshed out side content.
>So much stuff ended up as set up for future games (Carnage and Chameleon).
>Not really any good easter eggos.
>Felt like one minute they are there, then the city is fricked. Then it is a rush to the end.
It's crazy that the part where the city is legit taken over, and you have a TON of Symbiotes on the streets, is just meant to be a quick thing that you traverse to get to the next main mission and thats it, instead of having maybe some side missions take place during it, or letting it be the way things are for a while. I'm really glad I have a save file from that point, because it's a lot more fun than the post game.
Honestly, the post-Sandman stuff at the start, with sand everywhere and people taking advantage of the situation, was easily what they could have done with the Symbiotes. It wasn't even that difficult. I barely even got any JJ audio for that time either. Then in post game got the odd one mentioning things.
Felt like a glaring omission at that point. Like give me an escort mission where an ambulance has to get down 5th avenue in 5 mins and I have to clear all the symbiotes out. Shit like that.
Yep, big base fan myself. Even though they were a small part, the Kraven bases and initial symbiote bases were a highlight. Should have had difficult, advanced, maybe optional symbiote bases or something in the final stretch.
>Like give me an escort mission where an ambulance has to get down 5th avenue in 5 mins and I have to clear all the symbiotes out.
Symbiote crime missions were:
>Hunters/Cult fighting Symbiotes
>Symbiote hunt.
Pratically no variety. Crimes in this game in general felt like there was less variety? Like sure, some of them in the first game were eh, like the kidnapped and stuck in a carboot. But at least it was different.
For me, the game was pretty good, but clearly felt a bit rushed in the narrative department. While the first game felt like it could take place over the course of a month and a few weeks, this one felt like it just comes and goes. The lack of a lot of side content with bases is also a problem of mine, since I really did enjoy playing them a lot in SM1 and Miles Morales. Even if they did get repetitive, it felt great completing challenges and beating up goons left and right. The new ones just don't feel the same, especially with how they seem to be pushing for more stealth than a mixture of the two with the original bases.
Honestly it was a bummer that they didn't have any more traditional bases for the symbiotes. I get why from a narrative standpoint, that what is effectively a bunch of zombies having a base would be ridiculous, but it would've been really fun on the gameplay side of things.
Like, with Act 3 in SM1, it was enjoyable taking down the RAFT Bases because of the fact that they was so many of them that you would occasionally get targeted by them in the open world. Really incentivized you to take them down.
But in SM2, it's like you said, just some set dressing as you traverse to the next mission. It's odd.
>especially with how they seem to be pushing for more stealth
You want? It barely felt like this game pushed for stealth at all. The first game had so many sections, including story bits (train station) that were stealth or encouraged it. There was plenty of skills and gadgets for stealth.
I legitimately think you could ignore stealth entirely in this game (aside from maybe the last cult mission). On the skill tree there was like one stealth bonus (two takedown) right at the end of the tree.
I meant for bases, it felt like they were pushing stealth a lot. The overall designs of them didn't really feel like the same in comparison to the previous games, where you could either do stealth, full-on combat, or a mixture of both. When it comes to the main missions though, I can agree that there was a larger focus on standard combat than anything else.
I got the first game on Steam during the sale and I am loving it. Probably my favorite portrayal of Doc Ock, controls are good(except for spider sense vision and zip line being right beside each other. Might be my big sausage fingers tho).
From what I hear Spider-man 2 sounds like a let down, even taking into account Cinemaphile's habit of exaggeration. That sucks, I was looking forward to Venom.
Question about third act: what happens if I don't complete the Sable and Criminal hideouts and crimes before facing down the six? I'm trying to roleplay a little bit; to the point I try to web as many bad guys as possible rather than knock them out, since you know, the friendly Spider-man probably shouldn't be fishing out concussions and comas. I just feel weird to leave this situation to post game.
The second one is not as good, but the real question is, is it worth it which is tougher. I think you'll get it on some steam sale eventually and be ok with it.
I'd put the writing below bendis tier.
The story was shit. Hated Kraven. I'd replace the Kraven story with the Cletus Kasady side plot that was completely disconnected from the main plot. The gameplay and side-missions were fun though. Most of the suits are ass the first one had what better-looking suits. Final Swing suit looks great through. Deep red and blue and good detail.
They make sure you know Miles is a noble good guy protagonist but still eating their cake by having the villain only see how he hesitates to save him for a moment. It's a gutless experience where they wanted the dark implications of the symbiote without any of the consequences. Peter is also too much of a nice guy cuck. At least Holland-Man was fully ready to go for the kill, no alien flipping his switch. There is much to hate like Kraven of all people having goons or Venom having no personality but I would take the whole day to complain about it only for some autist to say "n-nu uh Venom had a character totally" just to shill their new product
Li orchestrated terrorist attacks and killed people, the frick are they doing just letting him walk off like "sorry bout that guys, wont do it again I promise"
thats not how any of this works
He is also partially responsible for May's death but Peter has no thoughts about it.
I assume he was walking over to those cops to turn himself in
Did Bendis write this scene holy frick it's bad
They constantly have writing this bad in the game pampering Miles to let the audience now that Peter Parker finds him great