Time to laugh at Lowe
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NYCC 2023: Amazing Spider-Man - Gang War Panel
Time to laugh at Lowe
https://www.thepopverse.com/nycc-marvel-comics-spider-man-gang-war-panel-liveblog-2023
>Hi everyone! Joshua Lapin-Bertone reporting from the front row of room 409! Getting ready to hear some Spider-Man news! Is everyone looking forward to the gang war storyline?
no
>There have been lots of fun Spider-Verse cosplayers throughout the con. I saw a Spider-Man India with a cup of chai.
>If you need a refresher on the events leading up to Gang War, check out the article I wrote.
no
>(speaking of Spider-Man, I'll let you all in on a little secret - I had a great interview with Dan Slott earlier today. You'll be seeing it on Popverse in the future!)
ok
>Bertone
Man I remember when this dude used to do that Spider-Man podcast where he waged a one man jihad against betty brant. And he was right
This is the coolest crime Master has looked in at least 30 years.
>The panel is coming onstage....I think we're about to begin!
yippee
>His movie
>His game
>His name
>His Gwen
>His franchise
Kneel
>His movie
Don't remember him in No Way Home. Was he serving drinks?
>His game
You meant "his DLC"
>His name
His name is Miles Morales. Spider-Man is Peter Parker
>His Gwen
Used goods who sleeps with Punk. Miles can keep her, Peter B is not a pedophile.
>His franchise
In your dreams
get better material, shill
>"DO WE HAVE ANY SPIDER-MAN FANS OUT THERE," the moderator shouts as he unbuttons his shirt to reveal a Spider-Man t underneath.
ok
>"New York Comic Con is Marvel's favorite conventions! Don't tell the other ones," Nick Lowe
We'll see if it is better than this year's SDCC, that one was a disappointment
>Panel being introduced....Ellie Pyle, who is back editing Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Boy. Tom Groneman, editor Miles Morales: Spider-Man. Amazing Spider-Man writer Zeb Wells.
(and Nick Lowe)
>"Tell me you're at the panel, and I'll sign whatever you've got," Zeb Wells.
>Erica Shultz, writer of Daredarevil: Gang War is roasted by Nick for being from New Jersey. She reminds Nick that he's from Chicago.
>Deadly Hands of Kung Fu writer Greg Pak is introduced. Nick asks if he's from Brooklyn and Pak replies "I'm from an undisclosed location in New York City."
>Last but not least...editor-in-chief C.B. Cebulski is introduced.
Shogun is in the house
>C.B. reminds everyone that Iron Man just got married and says "See, Marvel isn't afraid to bring people together." Some in the audience groan, others laugh. This is C.B.'s second reference to the Spider-Marriage during the con. Yesterday he made a similar joke during the Avengers panel.
Boooo
What is Cebulski hoping to accomplish with all this trolling?
I think he's trying to see if Disney gives a shit anymore about him needling the audience
>>C.B. reminds everyone that Iron Man just got married and says "See, Marvel isn't afraid to bring people together." Some in the audience groan, others laugh. This is C.B.'s second reference to the Spider-Marriage during the con. Yesterday he made a similar joke during the Avengers panel.
manifesting a car to hit him when he leaves the con
Death to Lowe
>Ryan Stegman promo image for Gang War is on display, leading us into a cool Gang War trailer.
The OP image is the promo for anyone wondering
>Zeb reveals that this was been building since Tombstone appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #1 (2022)
So was "what did Peter do" and look how that turned out
>"We start leading leading up to it in extreme fashion in Amazing Spider-Man #37 and #38" - Nick Lowe. The covers displauy on screen, with some Rek-Rap. The audience cheers when Lowe and Wells mention Rek-Rap. People love him!
They do?
>"He's trying to be the Amazing Spider-Man...very poorly. In this story he's fighting a version of the Sinister Six who are also demons, and who are also very dumb." - Zeb Wells.
So the Insidious Six from Dark Web
>The audience cheers when Lowe and Wells mention Rek-Rap. People love him!
Oh, Christ.
>Madelyne Pryor sends demons to call them (Insidious Six) back, and they cause bigger problems. Lowe says the demon is called the Reposesser. They are seen on the cover of Amazing Spider-Man #38. "While Spider-Man is having this adventure, Gang War bubbles in the background," - Nick Lowe
>This all leads to Spider-Man: Gang War - First Strike #1, by Zeb Wells and Joey Vazquez "The tempreature is slowly being turned up. This is where we see the fuse lit and explode. People are hurt. Spider-Man relationships are changed. We see the reunion of Spider-Man and Miles after Peter has been doing his own thing for a while. I don't think you will be dissapointed," Zeb
>I don't think you'll be disappointed
What he meant to say was, "I don't care if you're disappointed."
they planted marvel employees in the audience right?
>"You don't have to read this before you read Amazing Spider-Man #39, but you would be a fool not to," Nick Lowe
First Strike is essentially an Alpha issue and is included in the ASM trades by default
>Miles joins the conflict in Miles Morales: Spider-Man #12. "While Miles has his hands full, there are more neferarous and even more dangerous forces rearing their heads for the gang war," Tom Groneman Nick also says there are threads in this issue that will play out for Miles in the next year.
>Nick is now talking about the new Spider-Woman series, which launches in November. The room CHEERS. Series will have the creative team of Steve Foxe and Carola Borelli.
The audience wants Jess
>"If you read ASM 31, then you know she's being going hard on HYDRA, looking for something, looking for someone," Pyle.
We already know she's looking for her kid, come on
>The room CHEERS.
This and the response to Rek-Rap prove that the audience is filled with either shills or plebs.
It is just Diehard consoomers and Normies, anon. They cheer for almost everything.
Like Disney Star Wars fans.
>"We're getting Jess on a mission that is very personal to her," Pyle
No shit
>Now we're talking about Luke Cage: Gang War, a mini-series by Rodney Barnes and Ramon F. Bachs. "We can expect some not-mayoral behavior. What fun is Luke sitting behind a desk? The gang war is going to draw Luke out into the fighting. He's going to get back to his roots. He will not be alone. He will be putting together a team with Jessica Jones, Danny Rand, Cloak and Dagger,"
The more important question is why the anti-vigilante law is still a thing
>Luke will be undercover, and will have to wear a disguise, due to some superhero laws leftover from Fisk's mayoral tenure.
It looks terrible btw
>Amazing Spider-Man #39 preview pages from John Romita Jr. are being shown now. Absolutely stunning.
It’s so weird how there isn’t ANY character in that picture on peters side that interacts with peter OR works well with him
>"Every gang lord has a territory, and they're trying to get as much of it as they possibly can. We're having Johnny draw as much of the chaos as humanly possible," Zeb He teases that Spider-Man will have an unexpected team-up with a villain. He also mentions a costume redesign for the Beetle.
Cool that Beetle is getting a redesign
>Lowe and co remind everyone that the cover is an homage to Uncanny X-Men #210, which is also by John Romita Jr. He invited the audience to guess the title and number.
>He teases that Spider-Man will have an unexpected team-up with a villain.
Unless he's referring to someone else, we already know it's Tombstone.
>ASM 41 cover reveal... Kingpin and his wife Typhoid May and Kingpin facing a threat. ASM 42 cover New Beetle (?) holding a defeated Tombstone
Yup, ASM is tying into the X-Books again
>Nick Lowe reminds everyone of the moment from the 1986 Gang War storyline where Daredevil wore a fat suit to disguise as Kingpin...prompting someone in the audience to say "OH MY GOD" loudly. (it was me. I said that loudly)
>Lowe assures us that won't happen this time. No Daredevil disguising as Kingpin. He just likes bringing it up.
ok
>Miles will be dealing with Gang War in Miles Morales: Spider-Man #13 and 14. Brooklyn is a mess, and Miles will be trying to keep it together. "Non-stop action," Tom Groneman
>Lowe compares it to Dark Web, where different events weave into different books. Miles will have his own Gang War storyline similar to how other heroes did during Dark Web.
In other words, major development will happen in one of the tie-ins like in Dark Web: X-Men with Madelyne
>Daredevil: Gang War #1 by Erica Schultz and Sergio Davila is due in December 2023. Erica reminds us that Elektra (who is now Daredevil) promised Matt that she wouldn't kill. Gang War will be a big test of that.
>Spider-Woman #2 will kick off her Gang War tie-in. Ellie Pyle reveals that issue one puts Jess against HYRDA drug runners, which puts her on a warpath going into Gang War.
>"Jess has a history with HYDRA and they found a new way to hurt her, by bringing some of her past into the present," Pyle.
>Reveal of Luke Cage's new costume on Luke Cage: Gang War #2....he's wearing a metal mask that cover part of his face. Will New Yorkers be able to tell that this is their mayor?
They should
this sounds so fricking boring
Which is worrying when you consider that this is something Wells has had in mind since the beginning of his run.
This is suppose to be the event that turns perception on wells run.
Sums up Zeb’s run. I’ve found that the internet reaction to the run is infinitely more entertaining.
And it takes forever to end
>Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #1 by Greg Pak and Caio Majado drops in December 2023.
>Pak reminds us of Shang Chi's new status quo. He's now in charge of his dad's old weapons society.
Do we really need a reminder? We've seen it be apart of his comics now for a couple of years now
>"A lot of times when people try to use supervillain societies for good, things go wrong," Pak. Shang-Chi will have problems with heroes and villains. "The key to war is deception. You won't know who is deceiving who until it's too late," Pak
>Jackpot #1 talk now. The series will be written by Celeste Bronfman, who Zeb Wells met in the She-Hulk writers room. He introduced her to Nick Lowe, who was impressed by the backup stories she wrote.
Now we're getting somewhere
>Spider-Man Unlimited #9 (the digital Infinity Comic) will be a Gang War tie-in featuring Spider-Boy. It will be written by Preeti Chhibber (I LOVE HER STUFF) with art by E.J. Su. Spider-Boy will be defending his home at the F.E.A.S.T. Center.
Oh so that's the Spider-Boy tie-in
>WHO WILL TAKEOVER NEW CITY? A graphic has the various suspects, which is a who's who of Marvel crime lords. My money is on Kingpin. It would be a cool tie-in with the stuff happening in the X-Men books.
Odds are it is Fisk
>Questions and answer time!
Man this event sounded hype before but now sounds suckish wtf.
>Starting with a Ben Reilly question. I love it! Spicy. Fan asking why Ben became a villain again.
ruh-roh
Wrong question to ask.They can easily get out of that one
>When are you going to fix Ben Reilly?
>Lowe said it was the plan "from the beginning." "I don't know if I'm completely comfortable calling him a villain, to be honest," Nick "What can we say with two Peters? We're not done with the Ben Reilly story. What we have is a Peter Parker who doesn't have Uncle Ben's lessons or Aunt May's nurturing," Zeb Wells
Of course he isn't done with Chasm yet
>SECOND QUESTION IS ALSO BEN REILLY Lots of clone fans in the house. Fan asks if we will see Ben Reilly again soon. Wells promises in the next year.
I love how the first thing everyone gives a shit about is Ben lmao
Bengays who still haven't given up after Inferno 2 have got to be the most battered of all the battered wife cases in Spider-Man. And that is saying something.
I just feel bad for them.
Blame this editorial team, wtf how is there no room.
>batfamily has like 6 Robin's rn.
>Sorry guys, we just don't have any room for more Spider-People, that's just how it is
>Brings back Superior barely half a year later
At least pretend you aren't shoveling shit into my mouth as you do it, have some fricking decency.
>Fan asks why the Kamala Khan death wasn't foreshadowed. He felt it wasn't planned well. "It's a balence wanting to plan, but then allowing for ideas," Zeb Wells. He goes on to explain that you have to allow for organic ideas and things building. "Zeb and I when we planned out ASM, it was around the time the last Kamala book ended its run. We were both fans of her, so we wanted to put her in Oscorp," Nick Lowe
>The idea to kill and bring Kamala back came from a Marvel retreat, and Nick felt there was no bigger stage than Amazing Spider-Man. "We didn't know this when we put her in Amazing Spider-Man #7," Nick
Oh.
That is just awful.
No wonder this shit sucks there is no plan, they are just throwing darts at the board.
>and Nick felt there was no bigger stage than Amazing Spider-Man.
Or "Well ASM readership interest is down, interest in Ms Marvel's comic is down, let's see if we can make it big by combining both"
And if you believe this CBR user is Slott's alt account then that's his defense for this
Meanwhile, at a comic shop:
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/comic-store-in-your-future-is-this-business-or-craziness/
>New comic sales here in the comic store are increasingly slowing down. The recent death of Ms Marvel in Amazing Spider-Man was not a big deal at the store. A few people picked it up just for the death, though not many. I over-ordered it.
This is literally the meme of throwing shit into a fan and see where it spreads next
>Lowe argues that foreshadowing too much takes away the element of surprise.
ok Lowe
>Will Spider-Man and Mary Jane get back together? "Whatever the answer to that question is, you will have to pay $4.99 to see," Zeb Wells
[laughs in piracy]
>Next question is also a Peter and Mary Jane shipping questions... Why did you break them? Fan calls it "taunting fans" "It's a drama. Things happened. The unexpected has to happen, or you get bored," Nick Lowe
ok Lowe
It's funny how not one question is about spiderboy or gang wars, just people subtly asking wtf are yall doing over there.
>The unexpected has to happen
But everyone now expects Peter's relationships to be short and end on a sour note.
yo-ho
>C.B. jumps in, reminding the audience that Peter has had mulitple girlfriends, and it's all part of the roller coaster.
>Kid makes the audience and panel laugh when they say "AIM makes very Advanced Idoitic Mistakes!" Zeb says the kid has better ideas than he does. Kid asks if Venom or Thanos will be in Gang War, Zeb says no.
no Thanos? dropped
Thanos honest to God would've been more interesting than any of the other shitters in the event
>C.B. jumps in, reminding the audience that Peter has had mulitple girlfriends, and it's all part of the roller coaster.
ughh
>Fan asks about Big Wheel.... "If you put Big Wheel on Gang War, everyone knows who is going to win," Lowe.
everyone but Big Wheel
>Spider-Woman asks how heartbreaking things will be on a scale 1-10. Ellie Pyle says Steve's script "got it right"
>Any plans for Kaine? "That is an interesting character. There are plans afoot," Zeb Wells
oh no no no no no
STAY AWAY FROM HIM RIGHT NOW
>There are plans afoot
worst news i could've heard
Wil they turn him into a villain as well so that Peter has no clone bros left?
Kainegays will taste the Zeb Wells bullet. He couldn't dodge it
HEAT was right
>Will we see the consequences of Mary Jane's powers if she gets three skulls on her Jackpot slot? "We'll have to wait and see if she gets lucky...or unlucky," Nick Lowe He says Celeste has some cool ideas for MJ's powers that will be explored in the Jackpot book.
>Panel is asked about their favorite dark versions of Spider-Man. Lowe says Spiders-Man...the pile of spiders that share Peter Parker's conciousness. C.B. says Spider-Ramen. (both of those are on Popverse's weirdest Spider-Man list)
still not reading your articles, sorry
>Why isn't Moon Knight in Gang War? "You can't join in the Gang War if you're dead," Nick Lowe, alluding to the upcoming death of Moon Knight storyline.
Could have had Hunter's Moon tag in instead you know, like he did in Devil's Reign
>...and that's a wrap! Thanks again for joining us!
byeee
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #41
Written by ZEB WELLS
Art and Cover by JOHN ROMITA JR.
>GANG WAR CONTINUES! With all of New York’s super underworld fighting for dominance, you didn’t think Wilson Fisk, the former Kingpin of Crime, would sit it out, did you?
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #42
Written by ZEB WELLS
Art and Cover by JOHN ROMITA JR.
>GANG WAR CONTINUES! The Beetle has stepped up in her father’s absence, and she’s become a very different Janice Lincoln. She’s smart, dangerous and ready to take the big chair. With Spider-Man and others distracted by Kingpin, she just might do it.
Beetle's new suit looks kinda silly
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #43
Written by ZEB WELLS
Art and Cover by JOHN ROMITA JR.
>The Final Fight of GANG WAR starts here! The biggest and most brutal battle in Spider-Man history starts now, so batten your hatches!!! If you thought you knew what Madame Masque or Hobgoblin or Beetle or Diamondback was capable of, THINK AGAIN!
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #44
Written by ZEB WELLS
Art and Cover by JOHN ROMITA JR.
>GANG WAR CONCLUSION! Madame Masque makes the power move she’s been waiting to make her entire life. This is not going to go the way you think it will!
couldn't find the cover for #44
DEADLY HANDS OF KUNG-FU: GANG WAR #2
Written by GREG PAK
Art by CAIO MAJADO
Cover by DAVID AJA
>GANG WAR is here! Shang-Chi’s greatest weapons are lost to him! And Chinatown will burn if the Master of Kung Fu doesn’t win the war! Can Shang-Chi defeat his rivals and protect Chinatown without sacrificing his principles? Or will SPIDER-MAN and his allies bring him down first?!
Shang Chi using the Gang War to establish a foothold of his reformed weapons society might be interesting but even then only because it's the Agents of Atlas anti-villain story I've wanted for the past decade and a half.
DEADLY HANDS OF KUNG-FU: GANG WAR #3
Written by GREG PAK
Art by CAIO MAJADO
Cover by DAVID AJA
>The pieces are all assembled, and Shang-Chi is surrounded on all sides! Can the Master of Kung Fu fend off attacks from New York’s strongest crime families and Earth’s mightiest heroes at once? And, even if he can, will Chinatown survive?
LUKE CAGE: GANG WAR #3
Written by RODNEY BARNES
Art by RAMON F. BACHS
Cover by CANAAN WHITE
>THE FIGHT FOR NEW YORK IS ON! SPIDER-SLAYERS are back and bigger than ever! Luke Cage, Danny Rand, Jessica Jones, Cloak and Dagger face a GIANT threat as they battle for the soul of New York!
LUKE CAGE: GANG WAR #4
Written by RODNEY BARNES
Art by RAMON F. BACHS
Cover by CANAAN WHITE
>Unmasked and faced with giant Spider-Slayers, Luke Cage suits up as he never has before! New York City may survive this Gang War, but after breaking the anti-vigilante law, how can Luke still be mayor at the end? Will he even want to be?
mark my words, this will end with "anti vigilante law was shit and it s is now revoked with Fisk agreeing because he's getting his shares now thanks to mary"
DAREDEVIL: GANG WAR #2
Written by ERICA SCHULTZ
Art and Cover by SERGIO DAVILA
>AS GANG WAR RAGES ON, A NEW PLAYER EMERGES! New York City’s criminal element stands poised to tear itself and the entire island to pieces with only Elektra standing between them and the citizens of Hell’s Kitchen! Fighting against foes first seen in Saladin Ahmed and Aaron Kuder’s first explosive chapter of DAREDEVIL, Elektra has her hands full to begin with – but a dangerous new player with powerful and lethal abilities and skills to match Elektra’s own explodes into the fray!
DAREDEVIL: GANG WAR #3
Written by ERICA SCHULTZ
Art and Cover by SERGIO DAVILA
>GANG WAR CONTINUES! For the first time in her life, Elektra may be out of her depth! With the city engulfed in violence and chaos, she’s the only thing standing between the people of Hell’s Kitchen and a bloodthirsty criminal conspiracy!
SPIDER-WOMAN #3
Written by STEVE FOXE
Art by CAROLA BORELLI
Cover by LEINIL FRANCIS YU
>GANG WAR RAGES ON! Spider-Woman tried to take down Diamondback’s operation from the top…and barely escaped with her life. Now she’s angrier than ever and ready to hit him – and Hydra – where it hurts. Jessica Drew goes street level as GANG WAR nears its brutal conclusion!
SPIDER-WOMAN #4
Written by STEVE FOXE
Art by CAROLA BORELLI
Cover by LEINIL FRANCIS YU
>GANG WAR RAGES ON! Jessica Drew finds the answers she’s been looking for, but her reunion with her son propels her into a new paradigm. But first, there’s a GANG WAR to finish! And Jess won’t be fighting alone. Not when her best friend is Captain Marvel!
are they going to frick already
I want Mar-Vell Back, to hell with carol
MILES MORALES. SPIDER-MAN #15
Written by CODY ZIGLAR
Art and Cover by FEDERICO VICENTINI
>MS. MARVEL CHARGES INTO GANG WAR! MILES MORALES is losing his battle to save Brooklyn – can MS. MARVEL turn the tide?! HOBGOBLIN is out for revenge against SPIDER-MAN – but he’s not the only classic Spidey villain who wants a piece of Miles…
MILES MORALES. SPIDER-MAN #16
Written by CODY ZIGLAR
Art and Cover by FEDERICO VICENTINI
>MILES MAKES HIS FINAL STAND IN THE GANG WAR! Miles vs. Hobgoblin. Only one can win the Gang War raging across Brooklyn. • But Hobgoblin’s master stroke is about to fall, and if it does, he’ll be the most powerful super villain in all of New York City. A traitor is in their midst – and this single betrayal could define the rest of Spider-Man’s life!
MILES MORALES. SPIDER-MAN #17
Written by CODY ZIGLAR
Art by PARTHA PRATIM
Cover by FEDERICO VICENTINI
>FALLOUT FROM GANG WAR! Spider-Man needs rest. New York City needs to heal. But the most dangerous super villain in Spidey’s history needs Miles Morales to die. The gauntlet is thrown, and the events of this issue setup the explosive MILES MORALES: SPIDER-MAN #300 next month!!!
no cover for #17
JACKPOT #1
Written by CELESTE BRONFMAN
Art by JOEY VAZQUEZ
Cover by PABLO VILLALOBOS
>ALWAYS BET ON RED! A GANG WAR TIE-IN! Mary Jane Watson, A.K.A. JACKPOT, gets her first solo super story since her debut in ASM #31! New York City is in chaos as the super-powered criminal gangs are at war, and it’s all hands on deck! It’s a baptism by fire, but, come on, this is Mary Jane. What CAN’T she handle?!
those are some 80's porn actress looking sunglasses, and i am not even gwenschizo to say that
Worse is that i know the memetic gif of it
SPIDER-MAN UNLMITED #19
Written by Preeti Chhibber
Art and Cover by E.J. SU
>Spider-Boy leaps into the action in a new arc of Spider-Man Unlimited! Written by Preeti Chhibber (Spider-Man’s Social Dilemma) and drawn by E.J. Su (Ultraman: The Mystery of Ultraseven), this Marvel Unlimited exclusive comic will bring Marvel’s breakout young hero into Gang War as Spidey’s long-lost sidekick embarks on his own solo mission!
And that's it from me, see you guys tomorrow for the Next Big Thing Panel
>This is it, True Believers – The panel you’ve all been waiting for! Join Marvel Comics Editor-in-Chief C.B. Cebulski as he and some of the most monumental talent of today - including Gerry Duggan (X-Men, Uncanny Avengers), Jonathan Hickman (G.O.D.S., Ultimate Universe) and Jed MacKay (Avengers, Moon Knight) – give a behind-the-scenes look at Marvel’s biggest books while peeling back the curtain on the future of the Marvel Universe. Filled to the brim with announcements, first-looks, and tantalizing teases (including a special look at the biggest Marvel Comics story of 2024), this is THE can’t-miss Marvel panel of New York Comic Con! Don’t forget to stay ‘til the end for the one-of-a-kind giveaway.
Janice is only interesting when writers double down on the fact that she's a complete sham willing to throw everyone else under the bus for some money and generally Boomerang 2.0 in a shiny mech suit because she learned all her villainous tricks by joining his knockoff sinister 6(5)
>because she learned all her villainous tricks by joining his knockoff sinister 6(5)
The lesson she should have learned from Boomerang is that it's better to be a Sinister Single Individual and not split the loot with anyone.
Hardly counts since Spencer wrote both Superior Foes and the 2018 run but that's exactly what she did there, formed a team and used them to grab Fred and while they decided what to do with him she made a side deal with Fisk to make a buck.