Obi Wan Was Set for Film Trilogy If ‘Solo’ Hadn’t Bombed: ‘It Crushed Us’

Screenwriter Stuart Beattie was "devastated" the trilogy got the ax as Lucasfilm pivoted to Disney+ shows.

“I wrote the film that they based the show on,” Beattie said. “I spent like a year, year-and-a-half working on it. And then, when the decision was made not to make any more spinoff films after ‘Solo’ came out, I left the project and went on to other things. Joby [Harold] came on and took my scripts and turned it from two hours into six. So, I did not work with them at all, I just got credit for the episodes because it was all my stuff.”

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/06/obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-film-trilogy-solo-bomb-1234737641/

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >turned it from two hours into six
    no wonder most of it was shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It was meant to be a trilogy. That math checks out.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why the hell would amovie made many years ago affect a TV series, which is only related by franchise?
    And Solo flopped because it was bad & lore breaking. So they should have made Kenobi a good series that made sense in the Star Wars universe.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      solo didnt break any lore

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It may part of it really stupid. Thankfully it's Star Wars. You have to forget about any kind of canon integrity if you want to enjoy it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        having an explanation for his name was dumb as all frick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Everything Han talked about in the OT happened in 1 week of his life

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >solo didnt break any lore
        >spaceships using fuel, something that only appeared in TLJ

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The fricking Millennium Falcon is a sentient being

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which part of the original three movies does that contradict?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Which part of the original three movies does that contradict?
            The part where the Millennium Falcon was cool and not a gay anime ship.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              hey anime ships are cool. Everyone loves the Bebop and the Outlaw Star.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If I want a gay anime ship I'll watch gay anime, not Star Wars.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            the part where they aren't shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >And Solo flopped because it was bad & lore breaking.
      It partly flopped because the first movie of the new trilogy completely tore the Han Solo character to shreds, undid the character development from the first trilogy and made him into a useless washed up loser piece of shit. Why would people want to see the useless, old, washed up, loser piece of shit's backstory? The pathological need of the writers to tear down the masculine hero keeps sabotaging the franchise.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >lore breaking

      Please have a nice day

      • 2 years ago
        Sneed

        >reddit spacing
        Go back

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He just fricking explained it. Why are you asking a stupid rhetorical question predicated on you "knowing better" when you were just told what transpired

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you in a Star Wars thread? You know only morons watch the show and only mega morons talk about it online.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you here hanging out with self professed morons? Maybe I like star wars, that has nothing to do with you asking moronic rhetoricals then acting smug.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Leave the thread, dummy. Just close the tab and open up Skyrim. Pretend Star Wars doesn't exist for a while. It'll do wonders for your health. Unless you have it turned on legendary difficulty and survival mode and the first dragon locks you into a killcam and chomps you if you get anywhere near it

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              lol I will go play video games hahaha fair idea

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >n-n-no, I'm not mad. you're mad!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm mad because whatever role you set out for your character you have to also be a whiz with a bow and arrow

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fair point. I don't treat Skyrim as anything other than a depression-time-waster.
                It's not as fun as the other Elder Scrolls, it doesn't make sense, the quests are linear, the gameplay is casual and watered down...but it's the perfect thing to spend time with for 2-3 hours when I'm too depressed to do anything else.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It’s marketing. Disney bases their decision making on character liscensing. Han Solo should have been a high seller. So they predict Obi-Wan not being as big (Despite it having Ewan).

      They don’t have a creative plan for Star Wars if that wasn’t obvious to anyone yet in 2022. They were planning releases Marvel style. It’s garbage management. They needed a creative plan that fits in the SW universe, like the EU already did.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Solo flopped because it was bad & lore breaking.
      So was the ST and it didn't flop

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >So was the ST and it didn't flop
        That's what a successful exit scam looks like

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe you're too young, but when Disney started rolling out their movie plans, "A Star Wars Story" was basically this whole slate of side movies they planned on making to fill the gaps the main Skywalker movies had. Unnecessarily, I might add.

      Obi-Wan and Solo were supposed to be "A Star Wars Story" franchises. There were supposed to be initial movies, then assuming they did well (which Disney in their hubris assumed they would), we'd see sequels to them, like how Han met Jabba, or how Obi-Wan uh... also met Jabba on Tatooine or something.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Unnecessarily, I might add.
        Can you imagine how fricking inane it would be to produce "This Fricking Guy: A Terminator Story"?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Dyson: The Terminator one, not the Vacuum Guy

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The original “Obi-Wan” pitch to Lucasfilm had a three-story arc to capture the “three different evolutions” of McGregor’s Obi-Wan before the events of “A New Hope.” Beattie’s concept was for a “full trilogy” and actor McGregor had agreed to sign on. The first movie arc ultimately became the Disney+ series with the message of: “‘Surrender to the will of the Force. Transport your will, surrender your will. Leave the kid alone,'” per Beattie.

    “The second [movie] was thinking about where Kenobi ends up,” Beattie shared. “And one of the most powerful and probably the most powerful moment in all of Obi-Wan’s story is that moment where he sacrifices himself in ‘A New Hope.’ Great moment, you know, makes you cry. But, if you stop and think about it, it’s a pretty sudden thing, to just kind of go be fighting a guy, to see Luke and go, ‘I’m gonna die.’ You know, that to me, that required forethought. That required pre-acceptance that this was going to happen.”

    However, the second film script never went into development, as Lucasfilm axed the film project before Beattie could continue. With McGregor ready for “Obi-Wan Kenobi” Season 2, Beattie hopes his second movie ideas come to fruition in series form. “If I have anything to do with the second season of ‘Obi Wan,’ that’s the character evolution that I would take him on,” Beattie summed up.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And then they decided to ake a series about soe negress who thinks she's Darth Vader pursuing baby leia.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Disney are not stewards of mythology, they have no interest in the spiritual experience of the common man. It is odd to grow to hate a children's movie enterprise but I honestly see them as evil for the sake of evil at this point.

      Cinematic Star Wars has been beneath contempt for decades. A New Hope and Empire being the high points. The Old Republic however is mostly the work of an inspired mind with a Masters in Theology and it is jaw-droppingly good, and totally respectful of Lucas' initial mission of creating a new mythology for young people to connect with in an increasingly soulless world.

      Reading this synopsis of the Obi-Wan movie arc in contrast with that hunk of shit Disney just released on the internet is a tragedy that can only grow commensurate with the more eyes it commands.

      There is a Platonic Ideal of Star Wars that is actually worthy of praise but the phenomneal truth of Star Wars is that its two good movies from the late 20th Century followed by decades of decadent profiteering horse shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Great moment, you know, makes you cry.
      No it doesn't, you barely know Obi-Wan by that point, it would only make you cry if you saw the prequel trilogy first. Just like if you're seeing Han die in Force Awakens after watching the OT, and that was the most horrible moment in all of Star Wars.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it does.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >‘Surrender to the will of the Force. Transport your will, surrender your will. Leave the kid alone,
      This didn't really come across in the series.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    At least we only have to deal with one shitty series as opposed to three shitty movies. Maybe this will prompt Disney to do some soul searching about what they're doing wrong with the franchise, but probably not.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      There'll be a season two, at least.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Is it already confirmed? Jesus christ

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      at least the movies don't look like trash. the only star wars show that doesn't look like garbage is the first season of The Mandalorian.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >At least we only have to deal with one shitty series as opposed to three shitty movies
      Anon, I think your math is off on this one.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    this story should have been about Obi Wan. No Leia, no Reva.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well the numbers said it all

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what did they say

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Maclunkey

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the numbers have spoken truth

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    TLJ killed Solo

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >get paid to work on something
    >get upset when the company that paid you for your work uses your work however they see fit
    why are americans so pro-capitalism but also just completely moronic?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A key part of the western entertainment industry is to make people not think of it as an industry. There's a lot of money to be made in making people think of it as a social thing, virtue, fairness, equality, these are all terms to give certain people and buzz and someone like this has forgotten they where doing a job and it creates a lot of entitlement.

      You have to watch my movie because I made it, you have to pay to see an aging actress whose made millions because sexism, you need to pay to see black people hate whites because virtue. Of course they often leave out that you are paying for this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What a fricking babe. I would leave my wife of ten years and three kids to start a new life with her and my ICP profits.

      I don't think they're mad from an economic standpoint but imagine you put your heart and soul into something and then left, someone else came later, fricked it all up with pointless revisions, and slapped your name on the end product. And everyone hated it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also I don't watch any of this shit and just hate Disney so it was probably horrible to begin with and perhaps even enhanced for the TV show. But it's not a capitalist thing to be angry about this imo use my work just leave my name off it if you're gonna change it around.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        based jumping ship poster

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >do Americans really?!?!?
      You're on an American website shitposting to Americans about the American culture that you're pretending to not be obsessed with.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the United States is a big nation rich in natural resources. everything else follow from that.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why is this question based on americans being pro-capitalism? I keep seeing people on Cinemaphile say this as a diss or own, yet I am American and have never met a person in my life who is "pro-capitalism" everyone has criticisms and problems with it. No one say maybe corrupt millionares are waking up and just spouting how much they fricking love captialism and its blessings. No one does that.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Europoors and insane leftists pushing for more of the same. Its all so tiresome

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >waking up and just spouting how much they fricking love captialism and its blessings
        i do that
        not an american though

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      why is this question based on americans being pro-capitalism? I keep seeing people on Cinemaphile say this as a diss or own, yet I am American and have never met a person in my life who is "pro-capitalism" everyone has criticisms and problems with it. No one say maybe corrupt millionares are waking up and just spouting how much they fricking love captialism and its blessings. No one does that.

      Capitalism is a strawman invented by communists to make their desire to micromanage an entire economy seem not so insane

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Or how about both are invented by insane sociopaths to wield power over everything

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Centrists are the dumbest people

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >muh pick a side
            That isn't "centrist" you moron. It's literally telling you both sides are cancer BECAUSE there is a worse cancer behind it. bot both sides are cancer so it's a wash, which is the position centrists take. I'm not trying to compromise with you, homosexual. I'm literally calling you homosexual for picking a side when a israelite is puppeteer of both.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Capitalism isn't really a "side" though. It's just everything that isn't communism. Maybe if we were talking about corporatism, but "capitalism" is far too vague.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                little-c capitalism, sure, insofar as it is closer to reality. But Capitalism™ is a "side" with all manner of >implications and I couldn't care less because "sides" are just growth medium for sociopaths and satanic israelites.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Depends what "Capitalism™" is.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Capitalism™ is a "side"
                Invented by communists (Nazis too) as a strawman to make their asses look less moronic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >muh little-c
                >communism will work eventually, guys!
                >it's just that everyone who ever tried it was a big meanie who didn't do it right!
                >not that you have to be a megalomaniacal freak to even think about controlling an entire economy!
                >also the corporate owner of a multi-billion dollar IP owes me a personal apology because they treated a character they own in a way I didn't like!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >literal schizo strawman babble apropos of nothing

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >it's an unironic Nazi
              Jews don't own the free market, butthole
              You know that Hitler's "third path" is just communism with extra steps, right?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing that is inextricably tied to a particular people and a particular land is "just" any ole' abstract de-humanized political ideology, friendo

                >Capitalism™ is a "side"
                Invented by communists (Nazis too) as a strawman to make their asses look less moronic

                Fair enough, but they can all get fricked at the end of the day if they don't put food on my table and make the trains run on time. Way past the point of debating "ideas" in good faith. That's boomer shit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We already have fascism chud. Drink it in.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Reminder that intelligence agencies hire homosexuals so they can trap politicians of foreign nations in honeypots and that the British have been doing this for well over a century

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    RLM were right once again

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Solo bombed because it was boycotted by enraged fans after TLJ. Why are they so endlessly in denial about this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      solo bombed because after TLJ people were disinclined to give another star wars movie a chance.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      solo bombed because there was no han solo in the movie.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Han Solo’s character was never that great he wad carrier by Harrison Fords charisma.

    Sauce: every knock off Han in any and all Scifi shows.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot pic.

      Crichton was pretty cool, he even pointed out to not compare him to any of those

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Crichton isn’t a knockoff Han at all, he’s not even the Hotshot archetype

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Crichton is too crazy to be a Han expy

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        John isn't a knock off of any sci-fi character, he's Crihton

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, Solo is a fun character. The way he's actually kind of a dumbass, but he talks himself up and gets by on charm is probably the best thing about him.

      Nope, thats Rogue One

      Rogue One is boring as frick. It just has one kind of good action scene. Jyn Erso has got to be the blandest protagonist ever in a Star Wars movie, and there's some good competition there. Frick Rogue One. I don't care how nice that one shot of the Death Star was.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Starlord
      >Captain Mal
      also carried by the actors perhaps

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If you think about it, Captain Jack Sparrow is just Han Solo.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          damn you're right

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hey Beattie? Your ideas sound like shit and what we got was shit. Who are you anyway? How did you get the job of writing Star Wars scripts? Literally never heard of you.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We never needed nor wanted spinoff "prequel" movies for the characters. They would never be good especially since you're just making up shit based on one-off comments someone says in later movies. Disney should have just hired someone competent and passionate to maoe the Thrawn movies then adapt all nine of the X-Wing series. They'd have been raking in the cash with good content. Re-cast Han and Leia if you have to. Would have been FAR better than what they did.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I kind of like the RLM idea of just taking a character we don't know much about like Qui-Gon, and then just having some stand alone adventure that happens like thirty years before all of the other movies.
      It's the way that everything just has to endlessly lead back into episode 4 that's so frustrating. We already know what's going to happen. The biggest surprise of Solo was what? That Han had a girlfriend when he was a kid?
      Watching the Obi-Wan series I found that the character I was most interested in was Bail Organa, because oh yeah, we know basically nothing about that guy. What's he even like?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They haven't even mentioned his tax policies

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just a reminder to all you Last Jedi haters who took out your autistic rage on an unrelated movie: you did this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >how dare you stop guzzling Disney's crap! You should say thank you and ask for seconds!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Disney are the ones with the Star Wars IP and the ones who decide which movies get made and which get turned into cheap shlock series. Don't like it? Buy the IP from them. You could probably get it at a discount.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Kathleen hands typed this post

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      For what it's worth, Solo is probably the best movie Disney put out. It's still mediocre at best though. Everything about that phase of Star Wars deserved to fail, just on principle.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, thats Rogue One

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          South Park guy with triangle dot jpeg

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Solo is probably the best movie Disney put out
        it's just a pile of cliches and shit star wars impersonations, directed by a washed up hack.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, and that's the best thing Disney put out.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Besides The Last Jedi, but you Like worshippers won't stand for it

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Last Jedi could have been good, but it ultimately didn't have the balls or the depth of writing to go anywhere with it's ideas. It's like a series of open doors to ideas that could have been interesting, which then get slammed in your face. Utterly frustrating movie (but not because Luke drank the mommy milkies. Only morons got mad about that).

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It was part two of a trilogy. Seeing the story beats to their conclusion was the job of the finale. Not his fault you made hats out of your underwear and did the macarena because because you didn't like the direction he was going and made Disney do an about-face and bring back Jar Jar

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >It was part two of a trilogy. Seeing the story beats to their conclusion was the job of the finale.
                Imagine actually believing this.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Name one plot point that was resolved in The Empire Strikes Back

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Name one plot point that was resolved in The Empire Strikes Back
                Luke's quest to avenge his father

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The wampa

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                At least Deejay was a character who had an arc

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Never returned either. Crazy

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Seeing the story beats to their conclusion
                That's what the movie did though. It's been said a million times. Last Jedi should have ended with Rey joining forces with Kylo Ren, and and last of the Rebellion on the run. That would actually leave somewhere interesting to go with the third movie, instead of "lol Palpatine".

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Last jedi is one of if not the gayest movies ever made

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >you Like worshippers won't stand for it
              I'm fine with the idea of hermit Luke, but the connective tissue for getting him from RotJ to TLJ (frankly the fault of TFA) sucks fat wiener and is just stupid, inane and generic darkness vs. lightness shit which was irrelevant going all the way back to ESB.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Leek, the short moronic farm boy who suddenly had the responsibility of training a whole academy of new Jedi, who had never seen a good character turn evil, getting the dumb idea to nip the evil in the bus with his laser sword, sucks fat wiener and is just stupid? Kind of shitty for it to happen off-screen, thanks Jar Jar, but out of character, for the kid who fell into an obvious trap and got his ass kicked so he could help muh friends?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not going to try and make any sense of what you wrote here because I can't, but I wanted you to know that I at least read it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In your brain, where other people would have the capacity to understand Luc as the flawed human being that he is, you just have a black void, eh?

                Never returned either. Crazy

                Neither did Lando, or the Wampa for that matter.
                >inb4 that Robot Chicken sketch where Loc meets the Wampa at a space gas station
                Not canon no matter how much it should be

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lando did

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Off-screen between the second and third part of the trilogy. Jar Jar took Deejay's role in the third and gave it to that big fat slug asset whose role got cut.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Read the script for the third movie written by Colin Trevarrow. Or rather watch Jenny's interpretation of the script.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >understand Luc as the flawed human being
                every character with an arc has flaws, genius.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No arcs to be found here, sis
                >Gets his ass handed to him by Vader, gets saved by Leia
                >Gets his ass handed to him by the Emperor, gets saved by Vader
                If Rian were to repeat this pattern he'd get his ass handed to him by Rey and get saved by the Emperor's force ghost

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Neither of the things you listed here constitute an arc. It sounds more like your talking about power level as if we're discussing capeshit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's why the first line of the post denied the existence of any arcs

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So are you saying Luke doesn't have an arc?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's exactly what I said. Can't you read?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No I can read, but you have clearly been typing rapidly and I thought it might have been a mistake. I just needed to confirm that's what you actually meant so I knew for sure that you have no fricking idea what you're talking about.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You mean in the sequels right?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can't read then

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I didnt read your other posts because you are gay and may infect me with gayness

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The completion of Luke's character arc in the original trilogy, was Luke showing compassion to his father, and refusing to kill him, despite all he had done.
                I'm not even necessarily opposed to Luke failing, and that being a part of the set up for the new trilogy, but you need to do a little better than that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That isn't a conclusion to an arc, that's just a thing that happens, an answer to a question nobody asked. Do you even know how arcs work? Obviously not if you thought Lick had one.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                based moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Vader is the one with an arc, Lark being the consistent foil against whom Vader can grow. Did you not watch the movies?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                How is hotheaded farm boy becomes a man not an arc?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because he doesn't

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Luke resisted temptation once, that means he has conquered temptation as a concept and will never think about doing bad things ever again

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                There originally was a 175 hour original cut of the movie where they graphically showed every instance of luke resisting temptation for the rest of his life. But it was unjustly scrapped. This is what they took from you, sheeple.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                So, show how he gets from one place to the next. It's not satisfying to just say "okay, so thirty years later, he stands over his sleeping nephew with a sword, like a fricking psycho, and that's what happened". You can go there, but do the work, and make me feel like it isn't an asspull.
                My suggestion would be that all it took was a moment of doubt in Luke to make Kylo go fully to the dark side. Isn't that better? That he failed to uphold the way of the Jedi, in his heart, and then all of that work came tumbling down?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Luke showing compassion to his father, and refusing to kill him, despite all he had done.
                It's more like seeing how even great people can be easily seduced by evil, recognizing that weakness in himself, and sacrificing his own life to allow his father to be the great man he always thought he was.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's Ryan Johnson's fault. He purposefully set out to make a movie that would piss off half the viewers. What did they expect would fricking happen.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The finale was easily the best episode. Didn't care for what was going on with Reva. She should have died from the stab like everyone before. Also why kill the Grand Inquisitor just to bring him back to do nothing.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Solo should have just been a movie about Han going from a naïve kid to a ruthless pirate, and meeting Chewie. Maybe flesh out his time in the Empire a little more. That was the stuff about the movie that actually kind of worked. Lando Calrission and the Millennium Falcon all should have been left for a potential sequel.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know how stories work: the post
      Ditto every other post you autists make on this board

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How is having the Millennium Falcon appear in a movie a story? If I want to know anything, I want to know what events in this guy's life made him the man he is, and how his particular relationship with Chewie developed. I don't need to see the ship he flies ten years later. It's irrelevant. I don't need to see him get his gun or his name either.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I want to know what events in this guy's life made him the man he is, and how his particular relationship with Chewie developed.
          ffs WHY????
          He's a simple archetype / stereotype
          I don't need to know how the sausage is made
          Why do homosexuals want to ruin everything for themselves by knowing too much fffuuuck!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They're already making the movie (which itself is a bad idea). There are ways to do that better than what they did.
            You need to make the thing a good story in it's own right, not just an endless series of callbacks to things we've already seen. A story about a naïve kid being initiated into a life of crime, and developing a friendship with a bear monster after he rescues him from slavery, is at least something.
            Doing "the Kessel Run" because fans know what that is, and having a sassy lesbian robot become the brain of the Millennium Falcon is the opposite of a satisfying story.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Some of the best "origin stories" ever told were where the younger version really bears no surface resemblance to the older version. The connection is mostly circumstantial and done through themes and slight mannerisms meant to reinforce those themes. The Godfather with Di Nero and Brando is a prime example.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Because, surprise, it's just Batman Begins like 50% of every film that has come out over the last decade and a half.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I still haven't see the Rise of Skinwalker

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Based. I pirated it and watched it in a side window and it still wasted 2 hours

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      me neither and I hope I never see it

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >boo hooo poor me
    >my shitty 2 hour waste of time was adapted into a 6 hour meandering piece of crap
    >and I only got credited while still getting consistent work as a writer despite being a fricking hack!
    How am I supposed to feel about this?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    JUST

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >...and It's a Good Thing

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is actually true. Star Wars was at its peak before the PT came out.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >your movie franchise doesn't need movies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is actually true. Star Wars was at its peak before the PT came out.

      >your movie franchise doesn't need movies

      Star Wars should be an event, not a cookie cutter soulless MCU release schedule

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Even the "event" shit is kind of fake. The mythologisation of Star Wars as this "important" cultural thing, is almost as much a part of the problem as anything. It insists upon itself.
        Can we just get some good movies, that don't feel like they're completely cynical, and made according to a basic blueprint?
        Star Wars at it's core is about taking very old stories, and making them new again, through the lens of science fiction, so let's do that. Pick a story, maybe the Odyssey, or Hamlet, or Saint George and the Dragon, and add blasters and space ships, and see where you end up. I'm so tired of the Empire, and the Rebellion, and the Jedi, and the Death Star and the Skywalkers, all being done over and over again.

        Here's a plot: on the planet of Ziplippi, Blast Bumberclumps, son of Egron the lasersmith, has to defeat a Zaglon beast that is terrorizing his village, before the night of the Clem festival, when the mushroom people rise from the earth to share their golden nectar.
        Make it. Go.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I would be embarrassed to be associated with this shit in any way.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Their mistake was considering a fricking Solo movie before Obi-Wan.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Joby [Harold] came on and took my scripts
    Joby is the word for a poo in scotland

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why couldn't they just make the two hour movie and release it on Disney+? It seems like quantity of content is more important than quality.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Joby [Harold] came on and took my scripts and turned it from two hours into six
    That explains a lot actually

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    maybe im just not smart but how does making KENOBI into a SHITTY TV SHOW better than if it had been SHITTY MOVIE? instead of making it into a tv show instead of a movie, why come didnt they just make it NOT SHITTY?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tv allows it to be shitty and get away with it

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Solo bombed because TLJ was so bad.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't mentioning the 3rd part because that would have involved Darth Maul and they still want to do that storyline.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The comics have sort of done all that with Crimson Dawn and qira

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No one but incels and black woman read the comics

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry George

    How to Watch Star Wars

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj4aoZ43d9T8jo0k7LQe65J3G5JAo6VDF

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      His desire for even better special effects does not excuse han breaking his neck sideways and shooting second.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty typical formula for disney. Hire talented people, fire them, use their work but throw away all the stuff that makes it good, then turn the project into a low budget shit fest written and acted by a bunch of low level hacks. Then act super surprised that nobody likes it.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, it's the viewers fault, not the fact that it's all shit.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Well you're a fricking hack, Stuart.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Literally 4 years ago they cancelled all the films because last jedi sucked...
    Nobody remembers that?

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Make a new trilogy set 30-40 years after sequels; old Kylo (who somehow survived) is Palpatine like character in a bright futuristic republic.no deserts

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Make a new trilogy
      The sequels, all their characters, and the actors are done. DOA. They're going to milk the aging original and prequel actors for all they're worth and then reboot the entire shebang with a new "original trilogy"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      worst idea ive heard yet. not just about star wars, just the worst idea of anything ive ever heard.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Joby [Harold]
    This dude is absolute shit, he's done nothing except one shitty Hayden Christensen movie that nobody saw.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Until we get an actual definition of capitalism in here, this is nothing but hot air, and people talking past each other.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wish that Disney was half as hard on its "sequel trilogy" as it is on Solo. That movie, for whatever reason, has become the whipping boy of the series, even though it is probably the best Star Wars *movie* that Disney has made with the only possible exception being Rogue One. I'm not saying it's a great movie, but at the very least it's better than Episodes 7, 8, and 9, yet this is probably the 4th or 5th time I've seen them try to blame Solo for "ruining" all of their plans with the Star Wars series.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's easy. Solo was the only movie they made with a male lead. They want it to be the worst one. They also really don't want to admit they made any mistakes with the sequel trilogy, and the brand may have been irreparably damaged because of basedboys and feminist bitterness. Easier to just say Solo was bad, for some undisclosed reason and try to move on.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    bob igor: solo failed cause released close to TLJ
    kathleen kennedy: solo failed cause of recasting

    why does the media let her get away with it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No idea. She seems completely inept.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I knew Ben Kenobi, he Was The Best Jedi In The Galaxy And A Cunning Warrior. I Understand That You've Become Quite A Good Pilot Yourself. And He Was A Good Friend.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God damn I hate RLM now. How the same people who made those plinkett videos are now sitting around "hurrr I liked it" and half ass b***hing is beyond me. Being paid off would be better than them having completely lost their edge.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Even though the problem is clearly not enough transgender or pansexual roles and role play they still just ignore it.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are they so keen on blaming solo, but literally none of their other content.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Solo gets alot of flack, their decision not to cast new actors in legacy roles supposedly came from Solo but I don't see how that makes sense, Alden was great.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Same. Film takes all the flack for no reason

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >no reason
          They needed a scapegoat and blamed the actors. Rogue One was also very stupid but they weren't recasting roles so somehow it gets a pass

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why not? I thought at this point Disney had a fetish for making shittiest possible Star Wars media and making nerds watch it. Are they finally losing money?

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is she called Leilita?

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Solo was going to be the first movie in an adaptation of Shadows of the Empire, but that was intentionally sabotaged from higher up by snubbing it with the May release instead of December

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    well then they should have hired the look alike kid for the role instead of doing that israeli nepotism for the lead

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >make a shitty movie nobody asked for
    >how could this have happened? Now we can’t make the thing fans wanted 🙁

    Frick Disney

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw we will never get spiritual journey Star Wars kino in the style of Divine Comedy/Pilgrim's Progress as Obi Wan learns the secrets of the Force with Qui Gon and how to transcend

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Solo was actually pretty good, except the guy who played solo not looking at all like him. I even liked the sassy black lady bot

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