obscure DC characters you rarely see in big DC series that you want to see more of. For me, it is amethyst.

obscure DC characters you rarely see in big DC series that you want to see more of

For me, it is amethyst. I would love to see her appear ins me mainline series and see how she reacts to problems

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think she was used recent-ishly on some magic team or whatever.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Last I remember, she was in Bendis' YJ, a couple of books about her that may or may not be in continuity, and a Flash story.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon I like amethyst too but every time they try to reboot the series they frick it up.
        Everyone just takes the basic premise and do whatever they want and none of those attempts have been successful.

        Actually that was 3 reboots of the character ago.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >not blonde
          cringe
          i ge that dc already has a frick ton of plucky blonde girls, but with her it helps give her design some color variety

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Anon I like amethyst too but every time they try to reboot the series they frick it up.
          >Everyone just takes the basic premise and do whatever they want and none of those attempts have been successful.

          thats the problem with a lot of super writing. A lot of people can't write characters they didn't like as a kid. They just go look at the wiki (if even that) and then make some shit up. And if they did like a character as a kid, they have to use a lot of restraint to avoid making a lot of wank or flanderizing them.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I want to like Amethyst. I'm pretty sure I have all the Amethyst comics. But the stories just didn't stick with me that well. I need to finish reading the original run, but I'm not hoping for too much.
          I still liked DC Nation Princess of Gemworld the most, sad that it didn't get picked up for something more.

          honestly I mostly just remember the series for the art bc I like Amy Reeder. I could not remember or tell you a thing about her appearances by Bendis

          [...]

          I know but it would still be nice for a nice collection. and/or I can learn to bind comics

          This run was absolute horseshit.

          [...]

          Yeah Bendis pushed her in Young Justice but she didn't catch on enough sadly

          I just want a color collection of her first series

          >I just want a color collection of her first series
          I remember that the first issue or so were colored and got a print in floppies. I'm not sure if there was anything more than that. Might have to track it down if so.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shame I used to like this artist's early work but it's gotten worse over time.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Last I remember, she was in Bendis' YJ, a couple of books about her that may or may not be in continuity, and a Flash story.

      Yeah Bendis pushed her in Young Justice but she didn't catch on enough sadly

      I just want a color collection of her first series

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm glad it didn't catch on, I wasn't fan of the Bendis version tbqh

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          honestly I mostly just remember the series for the art bc I like Amy Reeder. I could not remember or tell you a thing about her appearances by Bendis

          >I just want a color collection of her first series

          check dollar boxes or lots on ebay. You wont have to spend much.

          Also, there are like two or three old series. be sure to match them. Its not so clear just from the covers.

          I know but it would still be nice for a nice collection. and/or I can learn to bind comics

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            The only thing I remember by Bendis was him retconing the magic of Gemworld into sort of like kryptonian tech, just advance science based on crystals.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The only thing I remember by Bendis was him retconing the magic of Gemworld into sort of like kryptonian tech, just advance science based on crystals.

              butwhy.jpg

              why bother doing that when DC comics have magic? They even have devils

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Editor seems pretty picky to what works and what not, I think around that same time they where publishing that magic justice league comic with Zatanna and WondeWoman where every story act they basically genocided a good chunk of forgotten or not so popular magical characters.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >basically genocided a good chunk of forgotten or not so popular magical characters

                so tiresome

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bendis version

          lol

          talk about a monkeys paw

          >get more of your cult unknown character
          >bendis or some other dipshit writes it

          frick

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I just want a color collection of her first series

        check dollar boxes or lots on ebay. You wont have to spend much.

        Also, there are like two or three old series. be sure to match them. Its not so clear just from the covers.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I love her but I wish we could get a rewrite of the original story that doesn't frick it up towards the end

        >Bendis
        I will believe we dodged a bullet with that one

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your mean bring back the OG team?

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    careful tini howard might write her

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    would like to see angel and the ape do something

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks fun

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I came to post Angel and the Ape and The Inferior Five. There's a lot more you can do with Angel and the Ape though. The Inferior Five, unfortunately, are a pretty one-note joke.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sure but is a pretty funny joke.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I came to post Angel and the Ape and The Inferior Five. There's a lot more you can do with Angel and the Ape though. The Inferior Five, unfortunately, are a pretty one-note joke.

      So you know of the Phil Foglio mini-series?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do, but I haven't finished reading it yet.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Never heard of it, what is it about?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Angel O'Day and Sam Simeon are partners in a detective agency. What's new in Folgio is Angel's sister is Dumb Bunny of the Inferior Five.
          All that stuff about Gorilla Grodd is also an after-the-fact add-on. https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Angel_and_the_Ape

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Angel is the estranged half-sister of Dumb Bunny, while Sam (the Ape) is a nephew of Grodd, who split Gorilla City because he objected to Unk’s plans for world conquest (Sam has Grodd’s telepathic powers, allowing him to pass for human). Grodd decides it’s time for Sam to grow up and join the family business and comes for him, forcing Angel to turn to DB and the I5 for help.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Neat, looks like Archie

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's a vertigo mini series too but I would avoid it like the plague. Almost completely devoid of humor in favor of trying unsuccessfully to be edgy.

        >Stanley and his Monster
        >Angel and the Ape
        Foglio really liked DC's old comedy non-cape comics, it seems
        Did he do any others?

        He was writer on a Plastic Man mini I didn't know existed but they got hillery barta for the art instead.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really fell bad for this character, having a continuation would be cool in some other reality that isn't this one.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who is this lightning blonde?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Guy turned into female hero from the 2003 Dial H for Hero series.
        He loses his job, his life, his wife and ends up having to work at a strip club.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          That is both funny and sad. I suppose it is one of those be careful what you with for moments?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, I think he was sexist so this was more of a disproportionate karma thing I think, it's very much portrayed as a bad ending.

            >having to work at a strip club.

            didnt he enjoy that part? I forget

            He did not.

            i wish DC did something with Ambush Bug. funniest fricker in comics

            He was in that Infinite Frontier Suicide Squad book that I didn't like.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >having to work at a strip club.

          didnt he enjoy that part? I forget

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Guy turned into female hero from the 2003 Dial H for Hero series.
        He loses his job, his life, his wife and ends up having to work at a strip club.

        The thing with this character is that you feel bad for him, every other story involves the random person who finds the dial to get powers, have a little adventure, maybe a powertrip and then loose the dial by his/her own hubris or stupidity. Every character that has a bad ending in that story has only themselves to blame for their misfortune.
        Except for Joe who just finds the thing not knowing what it was, accidentally transforms and gets stuck in that body because the dial falls into the river immediately, so none of the bad thing that happens to him are his own fault, sure he is a flawed character but he is doing his best on the shitty situation he is in and still gets the short end of the stick for hist troubles.

        [...]
        [...]
        I think the original Amethyst was DC's attempt to target a comic at little girls. So the main character was a girl, but then she goes to a magical land where she's a princess and grown up and everybody supports her. But they don't seem to write stories that girls were interested in, so you get the same sort of standard DC melodrama for the time, just with a teenage (really 10-year-old) girl dealing with it all.

        And then once that flopped, they tried to shove it into the usual DC superhero universe. She's like Shazam except her transformation comes from traveling across dimensions, which raises all kinds of questions of why she's an adult and can use magic outside Gemworld all the sudden. Needless to say, if you didn't like her design, you probably forgot about her immediately.

        Amethyst would really benefit from being it's own setting. There's a lot to flesh out and you could easily have interesting stories about Prince Topaz or any of the other kingdoms. But DC is insistent on making everything part of their DC multiverse, especially now with trying to copy Marvel, so the chances that they'll hire writers to make a Game of Thrones knockoff world are pretty slim.

        [...]
        >How many properties of the 80s were basically isekai?
        Isekai involves getting killed and reborn in the new world, so basically none. Just the "I stepped through a portal to a new land" doesn't really count, and that's been done since H. G. Wells back in the late 1800s.

        Well the OG comic started as a miniseries that got popular enough to get a ongoing later on so at least some one had to be reading.

        I do share the opinion that it needs to be its own thing, but good look with that, I don't remember the last time DC put any effort on trying to do something that wasn't capes.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am going to need to give this series a read. If he had powers, couldn't he just approach the Justice League and explain what happened? Surely they have someone that could at least switch him back into a man.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think zartana can technically do it. She has turned other men into women.

            though im sure there will be some asspull that the hero he was turned into is immune to such magic.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I general the premise of Dial H for Hero could work well, just random people getting powers in 1 off stories.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Marvel tried that with Captain Universe.
        Random people.
        Then it morphed into What If Spider-Man or the Hulk...

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tell me more, the way you say it everyone becomes captain universe.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not everyone. Usually people in need. And, despite the "universe" name, only humans. Never Skrulls or Kree.
            Later they made the Uni-force into a sentient being on its own.

            Original appearances drawn by Steve Ditko. Getting superpowers didn't turn you hyper-muscular.
            Like the Power Cosmic, it was quite ill-defined.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shame about the newest Dial H...

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't disisraelite the new Dial H. The protaginist where bland but the visuals where cool.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still think it's kinda weird she's never met Billy Batson in any kind of context.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      At this point we might monkeys paw it but I do wonder how Billy/Cap would work out in Gemworld. Maybe his role would be more muscle on the Amythest side but it would also depend on how the writer writes out Gemworld and the political plots

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wish DC did something with Ambush Bug. funniest fricker in comics

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      speaking of him, Heckler should also appear more

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      He had at least two proposed books in that Round Robin bullshit unfortunately it was doomed from the start

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    She's obscure because she had one OK-ish book and then no one knew what to do with her

    • 9 months ago
      AccelΔX

      Then they dragged her into the clusterfrick that was COIE but it gets worse: The Post-Crisis retcons

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know nothing about this character but her 5 second appearance at the start of a Brave and the Bold episode but her design and name are cool and I like the idea of a flower/nature themed hero

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was implied that Black Orchid's powers were technological; force field in her suit.
      But we never knew for sure.
      In fact, we never knew who she was. At the end of each story they'd find some girl tied up in a closet and a rubber mask left where the Orchid had been taking her place to get close to the villain.

      The nature/flower bit was a total revamp, retaining nothing of her original stories except her name.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like the suit. Orchids are weird flowers look alien so a suit with that look would be nice.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black Orchid's great. There's a Gaiman mini from 89 that was really good.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I remember right the DC event Futures End features a punished Amethyst. That the last time I can remember her interacting with mainline stuff.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has DC done a DC Ink/Zoom book with her? Because if they haven't I feel like if they actually pushed it it would do fairly decently.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      For the last 5 years DC seems to try to push Amethyst princess of gemworld in the most backward half assed way possible.
      >Bendis add her to his overhyped Young Justice comic, but also rewrites the entire canon so she doesn't use magic and every Amehtyst character from that book sans Amethyst and Dark Opal might as well be different characters all together.
      >They released a year later a miniseries with Amethyst, but a different continuity from the Bendis book, this book is no better is boring with the lead mooping about for most of the story, the book also ask the reader to be both familiar with the 80s comic to understand who is who and why someone acting out of character is an important plot point but also not familiar enough to notice all the inconsistencies between this new story and the canon of the old one
      >Finally there was a more kiddie graphic novel in 2022 which just took the basic premise and did its own thing, is not bad but is nothing to write home about.

      So yeah, is not that Amethyst doesn't get pushed is that whoever is doing it is pants backward moronic.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        The issue is that Amethyst is a portal/changeling fantasy character that keeps getting attached to superhero stories. She needs to be detached from the cape side of DC first and foremost. Personally I wouldn't mind if they went with contained stories for her, each run being written in standard narrative structure rather than ongoing while using the same basic premise and cast.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The issue is that Amethyst is a portal/changeling fantasy character that keeps getting attached to superhero stories.

          She could be ok in small doses in super hero stories. No reason they cant use her more if they are also going to drag Constantine and zartanas and dr fates asses out every time they need to deal with something huge.

          You know what would be funny? If someone like batgirl got Isakaiedwhtever to Gem world. A fish out of water story could be funny and interesting.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well the original book was a fish out of water story, Amethyst discovers she is the princess of gemworld but for her entire life she though she was a normal human living on earth, the OG book has part where they comment how OP her magic power are but since she has 0 experience using them she is pretty much useless.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              eh, I just think it would be funny to see some grimdark butthole visit gemworld and get helped by all the pretty people.

              unrelated, but I just had a thought. How many properties of the 80s were basically isekai?

              Wildfire
              amethyst
              shera started with her being transported as a baby
              rainbow brite visiting that little boy
              kidd video
              D&D
              Captain N

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >eh, I just think it would be funny to see some grimdark butthole visit gemworld and get helped by all the pretty people.

                eh... I get your logic but the it would have to be an original story with a different setting, Gemworld is surprisingly dark for a fantasy comic aimed and 80s tween girls. There is suicide, implications of rape, political assassinations, and death straight up a lot of characters die in that story.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Finally there was a more kiddie graphic novel in 2022 which just took the basic premise and did its own thing, is not bad but is nothing to write home about.
          Ah see this being the least bad of the attempts proves DC needs to do more with it. The more they attach the character/mythos to the main DCU the more it sucks.
          Lee or Johns or whoever should harass Gunn to try to get a magical girl show/movie out of Amethyst. The Sailor Moon remake failed to capture the young girls who crave magical girl princesses.

          Yeah the old book was at it best when it was its own self contained story divorced from DC. Is started going downhill the second they incorporated her to the Dr Fate's mythos.

          I think the best attept was the DC nation short, so going all magical girl would be the best choice.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Finally there was a more kiddie graphic novel in 2022 which just took the basic premise and did its own thing, is not bad but is nothing to write home about.
          Ah see this being the least bad of the attempts proves DC needs to do more with it. The more they attach the character/mythos to the main DCU the more it sucks.
          Lee or Johns or whoever should harass Gunn to try to get a magical girl show/movie out of Amethyst. The Sailor Moon remake failed to capture the young girls who crave magical girl princesses.

          >The issue is that Amethyst is a portal/changeling fantasy character that keeps getting attached to superhero stories.

          She could be ok in small doses in super hero stories. No reason they cant use her more if they are also going to drag Constantine and zartanas and dr fates asses out every time they need to deal with something huge.

          You know what would be funny? If someone like batgirl got Isakaiedwhtever to Gem world. A fish out of water story could be funny and interesting.

          I think the original Amethyst was DC's attempt to target a comic at little girls. So the main character was a girl, but then she goes to a magical land where she's a princess and grown up and everybody supports her. But they don't seem to write stories that girls were interested in, so you get the same sort of standard DC melodrama for the time, just with a teenage (really 10-year-old) girl dealing with it all.

          And then once that flopped, they tried to shove it into the usual DC superhero universe. She's like Shazam except her transformation comes from traveling across dimensions, which raises all kinds of questions of why she's an adult and can use magic outside Gemworld all the sudden. Needless to say, if you didn't like her design, you probably forgot about her immediately.

          Amethyst would really benefit from being it's own setting. There's a lot to flesh out and you could easily have interesting stories about Prince Topaz or any of the other kingdoms. But DC is insistent on making everything part of their DC multiverse, especially now with trying to copy Marvel, so the chances that they'll hire writers to make a Game of Thrones knockoff world are pretty slim.

          eh, I just think it would be funny to see some grimdark butthole visit gemworld and get helped by all the pretty people.

          unrelated, but I just had a thought. How many properties of the 80s were basically isekai?

          Wildfire
          amethyst
          shera started with her being transported as a baby
          rainbow brite visiting that little boy
          kidd video
          D&D
          Captain N

          >How many properties of the 80s were basically isekai?
          Isekai involves getting killed and reborn in the new world, so basically none. Just the "I stepped through a portal to a new land" doesn't really count, and that's been done since H. G. Wells back in the late 1800s.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Amethyst would really benefit from being it's own setting.
            You can say this about literally every character and their stories, doesn't mean they can't work in their own self-contained stories that still take place in a larger connected universe.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's a difference between, say, Superman and Batman existing on the same world in different settings, and Amethyst and Green Lantern existing in the same setting. Setting aside Superman's ability to hear literally everything anywhere on the planet at all times, Superman/Batman take place in different cities so there's a good reason why they don't interact. There's also reasons why Batman just has to deal with street thugs and Superman deals with aliens.
              No, that doesn't let the teamups make more sense, but they can exist next to each other.

              But Gemworld? The place where time flows at a different pace, where your body changes once you step through a portal? Were specific people have magic powers based off their bloodline and some specific gemstone? It's a bit harder to explain why Hal Jordan is suddenly there and able to do everything and more thanks to some fancy israeliteelry. Hell, why care about the Emerald house when an airplane pilot can show up and hand out the Magic Space Emerald Rings to everybody?

              I think that there might be some interesting characters you could associate with Gemworld I can't recall them right now, but I know some come to mind but overall, you'll end up with Batman in Gemworld (where nobody cares about a detective with smoke bombs when it's an evil villain plot and political nation bickering) or you'll end up with Superman in Gemworld (where nobody cares about political nation bickering when it's just Superman punching a space alien).

              I also think that X-Men should be disconnected from Marvel in general, because the idea of national hate against mutants is fricking stupid in a world with Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Captain America, and shit like the Hulk.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I also think that X-Men should be disconnected from Marvel in general, because the idea of national hate against mutants is fricking stupid in a world with Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Captain America, and shit like the Hulk.

                I feel like that is how it goes for long stretches of the comics. Like hulk doesnt exist in x men most of the time. They have so much world ending shit that hulk could just punch a hole through.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But Gemworld? The place where time flows at a different pace, where your body changes once you step through a portal? Were specific people have magic powers based off their bloodline and some specific gemstone?
                I honestly think there's ways to write around these quirks with some creative writing, come on.
                >It's a bit harder to explain why Hal Jordan is suddenly there and able to do everything and more thanks to some fancy israeliteelry.
                I honestly have a hard time imagining Hal ever going to Gemworld in any context lol, maybe Alan considering he's the magic Green Lantern would make more sense.
                Also again, you could just make some in-universe explanation, maybe the power ring can't connect to the emotional spectrum from Gemworld or something, making the ring useless there.
                >Hell, why care about the Emerald house when an airplane pilot can show up and hand out the Magic Space Emerald Rings to everybody?
                That's extremely disingenuous because power rings aren't just handed out like nothing, specially by Hal, they choose their wearer.
                >I think that there might be some interesting characters you could associate with Gemworld
                I know you're jaded but like you said, there's a bunch of characters DC could use to connect with Gemworld, particularly from the magical side of DC.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But Gemworld? The place where time flows at a different pace, where your body changes once you step through a portal? Were specific people have magic powers based off their bloodline and some specific gemstone?
                I honestly think there's ways to write around these quirks with some creative writing, come on.
                >It's a bit harder to explain why Hal Jordan is suddenly there and able to do everything and more thanks to some fancy israeliteelry.
                I honestly have a hard time imagining Hal ever going to Gemworld in any context lol, maybe Alan considering he's the magic Green Lantern would make more sense.
                Also again, you could just make some in-universe explanation, maybe the power ring can't connect to the emotional spectrum from Gemworld or something, making the ring useless there.
                >Hell, why care about the Emerald house when an airplane pilot can show up and hand out the Magic Space Emerald Rings to everybody?
                That's extremely disingenuous because power rings aren't just handed out like nothing, specially by Hal, they choose their wearer.
                >I think that there might be some interesting characters you could associate with Gemworld
                I know you're jaded but like you said, there's a bunch of characters DC could use to connect with Gemworld, particularly from the magical side of DC.

                Also, we're talking specifically about crossovers for some reason.
                I mean Amethyst and Gemworld can simply exist in the DCU and do their own thing separate from everything else.
                It can still be "canon" and happening in the same universe as Batman beating up his bad guys and Flash doing whatever, without actually having them show up, unless it's some kind of big event crossover story.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                It'd be interesting to see Amethyst use Gemworld as a place to quickly evacuate civilians into during some big city destroying event, while you Green Lanturn or Superman book is focusing on fighting back an alien invasion, Amethyst is in the middle of a Gemworld political battle getting accused by another gem house of taking in refugees to upset the power balance

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The place where time flows at a different pace, where your body changes once you step through a portal?
                I'm not gonna pretend like I'm an Amethyst expert, but is this really that important to the lore? Every version of Gemworld except for the original seems to ignore it.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I want more Dial H for hero, not metacomentary bullshit or weird artsy shit, just a fun story where some kids get to transform into superheroes and have fun adventures.

                Yes that is only from the first comic, in other version time just flows 1 to 1 from earth.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >just a fun story where some kids get to transform into superheroes and have fun adventures.

                Shame that most post boomers will look at Dial H at it's most pure form & call it a Ben 10 ripoff.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Shame that most post boomers will look at Dial H at it's most pure form & call it a Ben 10 ripoff.

                isnt ben 10 just Dial H + Guyver + MIB aliens ?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Also, we're talking specifically about crossovers for some reason.
                I mean Amethyst and Gemworld can simply exist in the DCU and do their own thing separate from everything else.
                It can still be "canon" and happening in the same universe as Batman beating up his bad guys and Flash doing whatever, without actually having them show up, unless it's some kind of big event crossover story.

                I think the issue is not that Amethyst or any other comic that works self contained can't be a part of a larger world, but that in many occasion Comic tend to make this big crossover events that shake the very fabric of realty or a popular hero on their solo books comes upon a existential thread that kills millions and suddenly the little corner of realty gets swept into other character's shenanigans that make their own struggles kind of pointless in comparison.

                The reason why Amethyst went to shit is because writers decided all magic stuff had to be conected to Dr Fate in some way or another, suddenly you have two completely different stories and mithos that had to be merged and when editorial or writes play favorite the more popular story is going to remain intact and the more niche story is going to become an afterthought. In the Amethyst book they are in the middle of their storyact when Crisis in Infinite earth happens, and one issue later the entire story gets highjack by two characters that came out of nowhere but and change the comic to make it more akin to a super hero battle comic. Is not that stories can't exist in the same world without bumping into each other but that the comic book culture from the top down wont allow it.

                You know what is a better example of this? Captain Marvel (Shazam), he works well on his own but writes don't want to use him because they already have superman, so a character that has his own mythos and rogue gallery is most of the time forced to play second banana to other more marketable heroes at best or be used as a jobber at worse.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                the big two could do well to get away from universe ending threats and giant crossovers

                batman came back from the grave mostly with shows, movies and games that focused only on him. And the problems were almost never world ending.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah funny enough it's adaptations that weren't trying to be MCU Avengers that showcase some of the best ideas of the characters while introducing them to the general public.
                Even that Amethyst cartoon did that, it made fans who wanted more and read the original comics.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't HAVE to be killed.
            Facing certain death is good enough.
            Getting hit by a truck (or nearly so) is the usual trope.
            Ewilan's Quest

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Finally there was a more kiddie graphic novel in 2022 which just took the basic premise and did its own thing, is not bad but is nothing to write home about.
        Ah see this being the least bad of the attempts proves DC needs to do more with it. The more they attach the character/mythos to the main DCU the more it sucks.
        Lee or Johns or whoever should harass Gunn to try to get a magical girl show/movie out of Amethyst. The Sailor Moon remake failed to capture the young girls who crave magical girl princesses.

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tell me about Ambush Bug, I only knew him from Batman the brave and the bold cartoon

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    you know, im kind of surprised we havent gotten a what if series or alt world where shit gets so bad, most of DC dies and the ending is just a few characters fricking off to gemworld and thats it.

    I know id gotten a nice chuckle from the end of dceased if everyone but like robin died and the last thing you see is him being transported there.

    Like please and thank you, thanks for all the fish, no happy ending.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a zombie apocalypse type story
      >it ends with humanity's survivors fleeing to Gemworld where their magic world cancels out any zombie bullshit

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    What was her age in the OP pic?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Amy_Winston_(New_Earth)
      says Amy (on Earth) is 13. Amethyst is early 20s.

      Everything past the original series (Dan Mishkin, Enie Colon, and Gary Cohn) should be taken with a grain of salt. Amethyst has had nearly as many revamps and "origins" as Power Girl.

      Her animated shorts https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Amy_Winston_(Amethyst_Shorts) are also enjoyable.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd like to see more of Amethyst too but something tells me she's better in the obscurity for now.

        >Her animated shorts are also enjoyable.
        Yeah. She was stolen a good chance to shine.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Could a series with a girl as really mentally 13, with the body of a 20 year something, be allowed today?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          W.I.T.C.H. girls age up.
          Also, some of the Marvel Family.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >W.I.T.C.H. girls age up.
            They do?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Look at the image.
              Cornelia's thrilled by her new chest.
              Will considered herself "flat as a board" and was startled by her curvy reflection.
              Irma changed into her magic-form to snag a date with an older guy.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Irma changed into her magic-form to snag a date with an older guy.

                I hate pedos, but I do find it funny no one every talks about how weird and pervy preteen girls are and shit like this that theyd do if they had the chance.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                ayyo?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dont know, I just find it weird as a culture were all hush hush about how creepy young girls can be.

                Like my eldest sister talked about poop and dicks from like the age of 12 onward. And I knew a girl in middle school that liked to smell guys. Another girl in high school that liked to grab dudes junk.

                Im really not bringing it up as a way to excuse pedo crap. Which makes me hate to bring it up. Its just interesting that to protect young people we pretend that a sizable portion of young girls and women arent creeper weirdo ohs. We admit boys are, but not girls. We all just agreed to pretend they arent that way.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Turning Red lightly addressed it and everybody lost their minds.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I get your point, the thing is girls like the fantasy of an older mature guy when they are young, is no coincidence boy bands have 20 something guys when their target is tweens. In the case of this comic is ini character for Irma to do something like this

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anime magical girls were this very thing for most of their time in the 60s-80s
            >Creamy Mami
            >the one with the magic mirror
            >the one with the toddler that takes pills by the astro boy guy
            >Pinky Momo
            It was a common staple

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I know Creamy Mami and Minky Momo.
              What were the names of the other two anime?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>the one with the magic mirror
                Himitsu no Akko-chan see gif
                >>the one with the toddler that takes pills by the astro boy guy
                Marvelous Melmo pictured in

                Anime magical girls were this very thing for most of their time in the 60s-80s
                >Creamy Mami
                >the one with the magic mirror
                >the one with the toddler that takes pills by the astro boy guy
                >Pinky Momo
                It was a common staple

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I know Creamy Mami and Minky Momo.
              What were the names of the other two anime?

              The image is Marvelous Melmo, which was Tezuka's introduction to sex education for kids.

              This went about as well as you'd expect, apparently.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          We have Shazam so I think it could work.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Could a series with a girl as really mentally 13, with the body of a 20 year something, be allowed today?

          maybe, but theyd probably do double duty trying to make the adult form unattractive and remove reomance sub plots, unless there is like multiple other characters her age in aged up bodies.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          That is the charm of a lot of those stories, Girl skip the awful part of puberty and become the pretty girls. And when they go back home they can be themselves again and non of the baggage of being a pretty woman bothers them at home.

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amethyst is for arm pit tickling

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wild Dog anyone?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean superstar of the CW groundbreaking record destroying Arrow tv show?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      me, I love him.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tom King

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Captain Atom. He had a solo series in the 80's, an attempt at one with the New 52, and a miniseries by the 80's book's writer some years ago. But he's really known mainly as the guy who blows up all the time in AUs and maybe shows up in panels when there's a lot of heroes gathered. It sucks that his 80's series hasn't been collected.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      why do people that make DC animated shows both remember and hate captain atom so much? Like they always make a point to take him off the table by blowing him up so he cant be used later to just fix whatever plot problem. But the average viewer wouldnt even remembered he existed if they just said nothing.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everytime I remember that, thanks to Young Justice, fricking Child is technically the most popular thing to come from the Amethyst comics my rage grows

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The child works in theory, some super strong outsider that just fricks things up for the heroes works, in a super hero setting, not so much in a fantasy story that actually has an ongoing plot.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but it disgusts me to think that he/she is more popular than Turquoise, the Emerald Sisters, Carnelian and even Amy herself

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Funny thing about that, before Child and Flaw where in YJ, the last Amethyst related thing in an animated show was Dark Opal being in DC Superhero girls.

          So is becoming a thing to use Amethyst villains but not showing Amethyst herself.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I actually watched this, Amethyst does show up but only at the beginning for Dark Opal's introduction.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but not showing Amethyst herself
            Amethyst's major recent appearances are from Teen Titans Go, as non-speaking cameos.

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Character perfectly made to appeal to teenage girls
    >DC gets Christy Marx, creator of Jem, to write her
    >She goes for the Game of Thrones audience
    Amy hasn't been good since Giffen took over her comic

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes I wonder if people lack common sense or are just hacks that got lucky once.

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time moving at a faster speed in Gemworld is a fun concept that I think would be really useful if an ongoing. "You have sixteen hours to complete your adventure, because then you have to get back home and get ready for school." Or maybe some Gemworld natives follow Amethyst back to her world and find themselves teenagers again. It's a useful gimmick that doesn't seem used effectively.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They seen to use it for drama,

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >some Gemworld natives follow Amethyst back to her world and find themselves teenagers again
      Was that not used for the red evil guy with the motorcycle cat?

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    While Dial H was already mentioned, I want to say that I want the cast and lore of N52 Dial H run to come back. The latest Dial H run was mostly crap.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The latest Dial H run was mostly crap.
      NO, it was great too supermiguel is kino and ludo

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I liked when it seemed like there some kind of romantic tension between him and his friend then suddenly he's gay and it all feels wasted.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The latest Dial H run was mostly crap.
      NO, it was great too supermiguel is kino and ludo

      The story kind of goes to the gutter after the SuperMiguel issue and I can't say I wasn't tired of LoloKickyou by the end of the run.

      But still is fun I like the reference to past comic book fads and eras.

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Stanley and his Monster
    >Angel and the Ape
    Foglio really liked DC's old comedy non-cape comics, it seems
    Did he do any others?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      So you know of the Phil Foglio mini-series?

      Can't be coincidence.
      Someone must be lurking here and begun posting Foglio.

      [...]

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no amethyst series

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want a proper TPB release.

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    This guy.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't that guy have an anime?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like Funnyface alot. I think giving him rubberhose cartoon abilities as opposed to comic strip would expand his usability a little bit.

      Eraser is genuinely a great idea. Dude covers up other people's crimes. Can't believe no one's brought him back but the Batman writers don't seem to be keen on writing proper detective stories like this character would thrive in.

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Eraserhead

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm here to remind people that Brother Power the Geek exists and I miss him. The original version, not that edgy try hard nonsense that came later.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >edgy try hard nonsense that came later.
      can i get a qrd

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think Neil Gaiman was involved

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wow, one of the other half dozen people who've actually read Brother Power.

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Peacemaker mini made me a Red Bee fan, it's refreshing to see him treated as an actually competent hero (even as an old man) when every other appearance he's had in DC treated him as some dumb jobber who died.
    I want THIS Red Bee in main canon.

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amethyst is basically THE best example of this from DC. Such a great concept and series but DC never wants to do anything with her.

    Literally one of the original magical girls, with a neat setting that also meshes really well with DC's other magical characters. And yet not that much across like, 40 years.

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    one of my earlierst faps

  32. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because of the Peacemaker show we are never getting this version of Adrian Chase again.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have they brought him back at all?

  33. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >see her appear in mainline series
    Amy's Adventures with Superman should've been the way

  34. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    frick me I completely forgot about harpy gee, I have like three months worth of pages to catch up on

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