The alien shit is dumb and whoever is in charge of the brand shouldn't have gone for it just to pay the bills. Just hearing stories about mysterious disappearances and certain similarities they share with others was perfect. Trying to push the paranormal on top of it is just as lame as skeptics pushing "It was bears der der"
Occams razor is honestly moronic because it makes people ignore less likely scenarios. Just like slippery slope supposedly being a fallacy.
Also aliens are fake and gay.
yeah it's so bad now
it used to be a place for creativity and horror, I remember innawoods threads, creepypasta, creepy images, obscure website, cave explorations etc
now it's just "HOW DO I SUMMON A SUCCUBUS" and every answer is some interdimensional demonic conspiracy
>Explain clothes being found folded neatly.
Explain why people frozen to death in the middle of nowhere are found naked. Seems like a weird phenomena that's been recorded enough to be a statistic.
My guess would be the basic survival instructions of stripping down and huddling up to prevent hypothermia gone wrong and leading to death. However that theory only really works for a group of frozen naked people... not a single frozen person.
So there might be some weird biological process when the brain is freezing it decides to shed everything as some weird hail-Mary attempt at survival.
>Explain why people frozen to death in the middle of nowhere are found naked.
Paradoxical undressing is a real and documented thing. What happens is that as you are freezing to death, the heat leaving your body gets trapped within your clothing. This sensation, combined with your rapidly dropping body temperature, makes you feel like you are severely overheated. Most people either don't truly understand what's happening, or critical functions in the brain that would tell them its unwise to strip in the freezing cold are starting to shut down, so the person will disrobe to their own detriment. Not saying there can't be another explanation, but this is a thing that happens.
The same thing happens if you drink a lot of alcohol. It lowers your body temperature, but your clothes trap the heat, making you feel warm when you are actually getting cooler.
>if you drink a lot of alcohol. It lowers your body temperature
Next time I have a fever I'm getting drunk.
You jest, but think about all the times you've been at a party or have seen on the internet some moronic dude bro drink too many beers and rips off his shirt. It's likely because he was starting to feel overheated.
It's obviously not aliens, missing 411 is most frequent where there are caves, it is a feral race of subterranean indians kidnapping people for breeding purposes.
It's obviously not aliens, missing 411 is most frequent where there are caves, it is a feral race of subterranean indians kidnapping people for breeding purposes.
>Occam’s razor states that the simplest explanation is most likely the truth
yes, but you need to understand what "simplest" means in this context. Aliens cannot be the simplest because to explain something using aliens you need to introduce aliens and that's a big step. Occam's razor is about not making those big steps unless they are absolutely necessary
Occam's razor just means that entities do not need to be multiplied unless necessary. Aliens would be a new entity, thus they should only be used as a last resort when there is irrefutable proof that they exist.
Welcome to the dogma that is Philosophy. These are the same self-proclaimed hyper-intelligent holier-than-thous that would have never realized they are a free-thinking self-actualizing being if Rene de Cartes never said "I think, therefore I am." It's basically religion.
avicenna preempted descartes on that with his “floating man” thought experiment.
ockham also didn’t invent the “razor”. it was a truism in most christian philosophy in the middle ages. Aquinas said this before ockham was even born >it is superfluous to suppose that what can be accounted for by a few principles has been produced by many
Welcome to the dogma that is Philosophy. These are the same self-proclaimed hyper-intelligent holier-than-thous that would have never realized they are a free-thinking self-actualizing being if Rene de Cartes never said "I think, therefore I am." It's basically religion.
>Maybe there is a simple explana- >NO! It was transdimensional shapeshifting sasquatches, or aliens.
He makes a leap suggesting it's aliens or sasquatches (I mean he doesn't exactly state it but is sort of leaning it that way) but some of the cases are pretty odd and they could be more than just people getting lost or falling into caves
it means using things you know to explain something, and when you exhaust that, then you can start adding shit. Jumping to Aliens is ridiculous tho. "Aliens" is not a simple explanation, according to occam's razor. It's insanely complicated. To explain something using aliens you need to first proove aliens exist. And then proove they had something to do with the missing person case. More likely explanation is something like murder, getting lost, being attacked by an animal etc Those explanations are most likely to be true BUT it doesn't mean they are. It can be aliens, occam's razor only means that >Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity
it's a great tool if you understand what simplicity means in this. I've heard a guy once say something like >evolution took billions of years from primitive organisms to our species. According to Occam's razor, simpler explanation is that the god created us
and that's wrong because evolution in this example is much much simpler than god. Infinitely simpler, like it's not even close. That's one thing and the second is >more likely to be true >more likely
it can be aliens. Razor doesn't say it can't
Ockham wasn’t aware of the theory of evolution. Rather he was saying ultimate reality should be unified, indivisible, without parts and single, and that platonic ideas (like math, logic) shouldn’t be their own immaterial entities but just part of the same ultimate truth (which was God). The only medieval analogue to evolution was rationes seminales, the idea that God could bring about creation over time with minute changes in living things, but this isn’t really the same as evolution since it assumes a telos or direction the change goes in to achieve some end.
avicenna preempted descartes on that with his “floating man” thought experiment.
ockham also didn’t invent the “razor”. it was a truism in most christian philosophy in the middle ages. Aquinas said this before ockham was even born >it is superfluous to suppose that what can be accounted for by a few principles has been produced by many
>Occam’s razor states that the simplest explanation is most likely the truth
I'm not saying that Missing 411's vague thesis or suggestions are correct, but does anyone ever question why we regard "Occam's Razor" as some natural or universal law?
>why we regard "Occam's Razor" as some natural or universal law?
It's not a law, it's just common sense, especially when the answer offered is >transdimensional shapeshifting sasquatches, or aliens
instead of many other possibilities. Adding to this, many of these stories are embellished or key facts are withheld in order to make the cases appear more mysterious. They are selling books and subscriptions after all, and no one is going to subscribe to "Normal stuff happened lol". It is wise to be skeptical of claims made by such people and gather more information before you conclude >transdimensional shapeshifting sasquatches, or aliens.
Explain Tom Messick disappearance.
>82 year old in the woods alone
>falls over and dies
>rolls into a hole/river/cave
End.
The alien shit is dumb and whoever is in charge of the brand shouldn't have gone for it just to pay the bills. Just hearing stories about mysterious disappearances and certain similarities they share with others was perfect. Trying to push the paranormal on top of it is just as lame as skeptics pushing "It was bears der der"
Occams razor is honestly moronic because it makes people ignore less likely scenarios. Just like slippery slope supposedly being a fallacy.
Also aliens are fake and gay.
Aliens are not fake and gay you little earthshit. Say it to my faces and see what happens.
Interdimensional apes
classic /x/ pasta. it used to be an entertaining board some years ago
And then the schizos took over.
yeah it's so bad now
it used to be a place for creativity and horror, I remember innawoods threads, creepypasta, creepy images, obscure website, cave explorations etc
now it's just "HOW DO I SUMMON A SUCCUBUS" and every answer is some interdimensional demonic conspiracy
Yes I visited recently and it's full of coomers trying to summon ghosts to jerk them off or autists yelling glowBlack person at everyone
why are interdimensional apes so smug?
>morons go missing in huge empty wooded area with tons of caves, pits, streams, lakes, dense forests full of hungry wild animals
>DUDE ALIENS LMAO
Explain clothes being found folded neatly.
>Explain clothes being found folded neatly.
Explain why people frozen to death in the middle of nowhere are found naked. Seems like a weird phenomena that's been recorded enough to be a statistic.
My guess would be the basic survival instructions of stripping down and huddling up to prevent hypothermia gone wrong and leading to death. However that theory only really works for a group of frozen naked people... not a single frozen person.
So there might be some weird biological process when the brain is freezing it decides to shed everything as some weird hail-Mary attempt at survival.
>Explain why people frozen to death in the middle of nowhere are found naked.
Paradoxical undressing is a real and documented thing. What happens is that as you are freezing to death, the heat leaving your body gets trapped within your clothing. This sensation, combined with your rapidly dropping body temperature, makes you feel like you are severely overheated. Most people either don't truly understand what's happening, or critical functions in the brain that would tell them its unwise to strip in the freezing cold are starting to shut down, so the person will disrobe to their own detriment. Not saying there can't be another explanation, but this is a thing that happens.
The same thing happens if you drink a lot of alcohol. It lowers your body temperature, but your clothes trap the heat, making you feel warm when you are actually getting cooler.
So that's why I always take my pants off when I get blackout drunk.
You jest, but think about all the times you've been at a party or have seen on the internet some moronic dude bro drink too many beers and rips off his shirt. It's likely because he was starting to feel overheated.
>if you drink a lot of alcohol. It lowers your body temperature
Next time I have a fever I'm getting drunk.
Doctors hate him
It's obviously not aliens, missing 411 is most frequent where there are caves, it is a feral race of subterranean indians kidnapping people for breeding purposes.
I'm convinced this is what happened in a lot of cases, like the Dennis Martin case.
Explain the robot grandma
>Occam’s razor states that the simplest explanation is most likely the truth
yes, but you need to understand what "simplest" means in this context. Aliens cannot be the simplest because to explain something using aliens you need to introduce aliens and that's a big step. Occam's razor is about not making those big steps unless they are absolutely necessary
>MY DEAD SON WAS GOOD AT HOCKEY WAAAHHHHH KILL MEEEEE
Occam's razor just means that entities do not need to be multiplied unless necessary. Aliens would be a new entity, thus they should only be used as a last resort when there is irrefutable proof that they exist.
It's actually interdimensional time travelling Bigfoot, obviously
why do people take what some monk said in the 1300s as axiomatic fact? why can’t reality be complicated?
Welcome to the dogma that is Philosophy. These are the same self-proclaimed hyper-intelligent holier-than-thous that would have never realized they are a free-thinking self-actualizing being if Rene de Cartes never said "I think, therefore I am." It's basically religion.
avicenna preempted descartes on that with his “floating man” thought experiment.
ockham also didn’t invent the “razor”. it was a truism in most christian philosophy in the middle ages. Aquinas said this before ockham was even born
>it is superfluous to suppose that what can be accounted for by a few principles has been produced by many
>Maybe there is a simple explana-
>NO! It was transdimensional shapeshifting sasquatches, or aliens.
He makes a leap suggesting it's aliens or sasquatches (I mean he doesn't exactly state it but is sort of leaning it that way) but some of the cases are pretty odd and they could be more than just people getting lost or falling into caves
it's not axiomatic fact. No one fricking understands occam's razor. Both people who hate it and people who use it
>No one fricking understands occam's razor
Please explain it then?
it means using things you know to explain something, and when you exhaust that, then you can start adding shit. Jumping to Aliens is ridiculous tho. "Aliens" is not a simple explanation, according to occam's razor. It's insanely complicated. To explain something using aliens you need to first proove aliens exist. And then proove they had something to do with the missing person case. More likely explanation is something like murder, getting lost, being attacked by an animal etc Those explanations are most likely to be true BUT it doesn't mean they are. It can be aliens, occam's razor only means that
>Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity
it's a great tool if you understand what simplicity means in this. I've heard a guy once say something like
>evolution took billions of years from primitive organisms to our species. According to Occam's razor, simpler explanation is that the god created us
and that's wrong because evolution in this example is much much simpler than god. Infinitely simpler, like it's not even close. That's one thing and the second is
>more likely to be true
>more likely
it can be aliens. Razor doesn't say it can't
Ockham wasn’t aware of the theory of evolution. Rather he was saying ultimate reality should be unified, indivisible, without parts and single, and that platonic ideas (like math, logic) shouldn’t be their own immaterial entities but just part of the same ultimate truth (which was God). The only medieval analogue to evolution was rationes seminales, the idea that God could bring about creation over time with minute changes in living things, but this isn’t really the same as evolution since it assumes a telos or direction the change goes in to achieve some end.
interesting
This, so
>is the explanation part of the phenomena we know to exist
>or ones we don’t (aliens)
first is simpler
>Ockham wasn’t aware of the theory of evolution
so? What does it have to do with anything?
>Occam’s razor states that the simplest explanation is most likely the truth
I'm not saying that Missing 411's vague thesis or suggestions are correct, but does anyone ever question why we regard "Occam's Razor" as some natural or universal law?
Oh, didn't read the rest of the thread yet and see someone else made the same point. Thank you
>why we regard "Occam's Razor" as some natural or universal law?
It's not a law, it's just common sense, especially when the answer offered is
>transdimensional shapeshifting sasquatches, or aliens
instead of many other possibilities. Adding to this, many of these stories are embellished or key facts are withheld in order to make the cases appear more mysterious. They are selling books and subscriptions after all, and no one is going to subscribe to "Normal stuff happened lol". It is wise to be skeptical of claims made by such people and gather more information before you conclude
>transdimensional shapeshifting sasquatches, or aliens.
Time jumping Black folk killing white people or israeli pedophile rings are my bets
>411
412 after julian sands
as if i could ever make such a mistake