For all the shit the new series can get, you are grasping at straws with this one lad
I mean
There werer white orcs, and we are not even counting the motherfricking WHITE HAND mark over BLACK URUKS
I'm more concerned about brawler Galadriel
>seen so far in pictures looks good >even the twig arms galadriel yas queen melee figther instead of the twig arms fat breasts and ass galadriel OP spellcaster
Frick you!
And the Black person elves
Don't you ever post this shit again, it only fuels the opposition if you give them this weak baits
Use real claims of shittiness
i hope you guys are joking when you act offended and say they "look white". That's offensive to me as a white guy lmao because i refuse other white guys can actually be this stupid.
>Sure, the orcs will murder you and enjoy every second of it >But right now there's not enough of them to endanger the whole world and they're more of a nuisance, so it's okay if you feel a little bad for them
>It’s hard to imagine the Orcs outside of the swarms of warriors we’ve become accustomed to, but Weber dropped a major reveal for the series in regards to the Orc’s repopulation when teasing her favorite moment of the first season of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. “There's some female Orcs that I truly loved,” she said. “But there's one Orc in particular, who's very, very tall and strong, who has a particularly enjoyable fight with one of our Elven characters that I suspect will be, or hope will be a favorite among fans.”
I fricking hate modern society so goddamn much, look I like some takes on classics with more gray in the middle but Lord of the Rings is a modern fantasy where there are good guys and there are bad guys. Sometimes there are just truly evil abominations and that is what orcs fricking are. Frick this stupid shit
The Leftwing has made women, Black folk, homosexuals, troons, and all the other clowns their proletariat. And straight White people are the "oppressing" bourgeoisie
About that line Lefties always through around about Marx being pro gun. Yes he was pro gun, for the proletariat. Now what did I just say about today's "proletariat"
Why do you think the Leftwing doesn't care about rampant black on black crime or the fact that Black folk are far more intolerant of troons than normie whites. Because to the Leftwing they unironically do see it as dey culcha.
Its only a problem if an oppressor is doing it, and that means you chud
Whoa so kewl you repeated Peter Thiel’s Republican talking points you sound smart so I will base my life around something I read on Cinemaphile. Dont’t @ me
Shills, I wont respond No Cap FR
>talking points
I know the breadtubers you watch use this as a dismissal of politically inconvenient facts, but simply labeling it as a talking point of the opposition does nothing to refute it and is incredibly intellectually lazy.
Thats why these big record labels recently tried to push lil uzi vert dressing like a girl, young thug wearing a dress, playboi carti wearing tight jeans and his homosexual mannerisms.
Hood homies still hate gays and bully them at school, they are unironically too primitive and low IQ to be cattle or drones like whites and asians.
Maybe in a couple centuries, who knows? Maybe they will be mixed enough
Whites did the world a great disservice with their "civil rights" between the Middle Easterners and the Orientals, by now Black folk would have been annihilated or brought to heel.
They look far worse than what they could be - better than The Hobbit triology ones sure, but still look less organic than what we saw in TLoTR trilogy and with the sort of budget and tech upgrades in the past two decades its just insulting.
why does everything look so cheap and empty in all these post 2015 fantasy productions. is it just that when I was a kid I filled in the world with my imagination now all I see is a production set. its really hard to put my finger on first noticed it on that planet with the orange alien in star wars the force awakens
tolkien today would have said something about white supremacists or something. orks aren't some niogger analogy nor making them pale here some schizo plot against whites
Aren't the First (and early Second) Age orcs just the elves mutilated and corrupted by Morgoth or something? I mean, it makes sense that they're whiter/paler than Uruk-Hai or other later orcs if that origin is true.
you are honestly grasping at straws for this one. jackson's orcs were also very diverse in appearance in terms of skin, eyes, hair and physique and are even subtly different based on their locations like isengard orcs, mordor orcs and gundabad orcs in the hobbit all look quite different from eachother
Yeah it looks ok.
I’m more concerned about that burn over his eye there, if that’s a hand print under the helmet then they might be making the games canon. Along with stupid sexy shelob.
Now that would be worth a kek.
Honestly everything i've seen so far in pictures looks good except those horrible black hobbits and elves. The bigger issues i worry about are the writing, the visuals, the music and the "agenda"
>seen so far in pictures looks good >even the twig arms galadriel yas queen melee figther instead of the twig arms fat breasts and ass galadriel OP spellcaster
Frick you!
Yea the costuming seems ok and at worst “excusable if everything else is good”.
Ditto the sets, bit saturated for my tastes tho.
Comes down to the writing.
The context of the black orcs literally right there in your picture? The orcs aren't changed to subliminally message a political agenda. They are just multicolored.
I hear Hostetter actually did a decent work with the nature of Middle-earth book, with the material Christopher had sent him. >Who is this homosexual even.
He's an editor. He already published a few Tolkien Map books. He also edited the six Movie Guides.
yes actually there's a lot of notes and scribblings. What Christopher Tolkien included in his publications is only a small portion of the most complete ones.
Maybe. There would probably be a reference or two of how the big baddie was destroyed at the very beginning and how the world changed. But other than that, I don't think you'd need much else.
Imagine being so insecure that you feel attacked by a creature design because their skin is ever so slightly lighter than how it was previously portrayed. For your own sake go outside OP.
Ehhh, some of the orcs are described as pale, and the makeup looks good
The important thing to remember is that I won't be watching your nigher show no matter how many bait threads you make shill.
Abd I won't be responding to any. (You)s. Seethe and enjoy to financial bad decision you made.
What the frick happened to right-leaning people on the internet? Five years ago, you people hated feminists for always whining about everything and always somehow making themselves a victim of some imagined "oppression", and now this is literally describing you. God you people are so obnoxious and pathetic.
Bookgays, are there any differences between 1st and 2nd age orcs and the 3rd age orcs we see in LotR? I imagine earlier orcs being more deadly and maybe sophisticated since they were closer to the original corruption of elves, with subsequent generations becoming more and more diminutive and less potent. Generally this is in step with everything being better and grander in the past with Tolkien's works
The 1st Age wars were basiclly biblical level apocalypse events where demons and angels and enormous armies fought all at the same time. It was crazy stuff.
The big dude here is Melkor, who is basically Satan of the Tolkienverse literally. Sauron was his right hand man and secretary basically. Sauron is basically a limp wristed loser compared to him tbh.
No, there is no difference. In the First Age, even with the support of dragons, werewolves, balrogs, etc, hundreds of thousands and even millions of orcs were needed to successfully defeat the Noldor and it took them 400 years. Also, it's not even 100% certain they were created from Elves. Tolkien seemed to be more inclined to the grown out of mud version later on.
I don't remember anything saying ancient orcs were physically different than "current" orcs. The main difference is that Morgoth was still in charge back then, so all the foul beings he created were at the peak of their power. Plus, his will drove them to fight harder and more ferociously than they otherwise would.
Drastically changing the style of the orcs between every film/tv show is bad practice, especially since they never actually say they are different breeds.
>/pol/- sorry I mean Cinemaphile is seething about orcs having pale skin
You tards are no better than the chimps on Twitter b***hing about any perceived racial slight to blacks
>make all the good guys black like the elves, hobbits, and dwarves
>make all the bad guys white like the orcs
Sad!
Many such cases.
who cares, there are already tons of movies where its the opposite
Didn't ask.
>Sad!
>Many such cases.
Don't sweat it. Nobody will watch this shit after the first episode.
>blonde hair
>blue eyes
>white complexion
is that supposed to be rust on his helmet? It's poorly done
all of the props, sets and costumes we've seen so far are shit
fortunately, they can fix it in post
What's the difference?
That was before I was taught by the internet to be permanently furious and offended by everything.
YWNBAW
Get new material, schizo.
He's right to be scared if trannies, he looks underage
Literally nothing. Cinemaphile, like every other board, is just filled with election tourists and suffering from terminal, late-stage brain rot.
They need to just shut up and enjoy being white. It's great!
For all the shit the new series can get, you are grasping at straws with this one lad
There werer white orcs, and we are not even counting the motherfricking WHITE HAND mark over BLACK URUKS
I'm more concerned about brawler Galadriel
And the Black person elves
Don't you ever post this shit again, it only fuels the opposition if you give them this weak baits
Use real claims of shittiness
CATAPULTS!
was released 2003
There were plenty of pale orcs in Jackson's movies. You're just clutching at straws now.
oy vey
They look like some shitty WoW movie orcs.
????????
i hope you guys are joking when you act offended and say they "look white". That's offensive to me as a white guy lmao because i refuse other white guys can actually be this stupid.
blonde?
Hope you’re ready for some orc sympathy
god this stuff is so moronic, not only did they conflate thousands of years of tolkien lore into like a 5 year span, but they make shit up too.
>Sure, the orcs will murder you and enjoy every second of it
>But right now there's not enough of them to endanger the whole world and they're more of a nuisance, so it's okay if you feel a little bad for them
So wait I’m sorry, are they supposed to be bad white people now like OP says? Or are they supposed to be sympathetic blacks?
Jews.
>literally THE NEW GONDORIANS
There will no doubt be an orc/human "forbidden love" story in the show.
>It’s hard to imagine the Orcs outside of the swarms of warriors we’ve become accustomed to, but Weber dropped a major reveal for the series in regards to the Orc’s repopulation when teasing her favorite moment of the first season of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. “There's some female Orcs that I truly loved,” she said. “But there's one Orc in particular, who's very, very tall and strong, who has a particularly enjoyable fight with one of our Elven characters that I suspect will be, or hope will be a favorite among fans.”
>there's some female orcs that I truly loved
I fricking hate modern society so goddamn much, look I like some takes on classics with more gray in the middle but Lord of the Rings is a modern fantasy where there are good guys and there are bad guys. Sometimes there are just truly evil abominations and that is what orcs fricking are. Frick this stupid shit
So there is no external threat? Whom will the elves fight against then? If they don't care about lore and generic random orcs are irrelevant?
>low in numbers
Doesn't the Witch-King use an army of orcs and men while building his empire? Isn't he second age?
I bet they give Zelensky a guest role leading some orc killers
white people bad
black people good
Based Boyega making chuds seethe
>check the replies
>"well you are a fricking Black person"
I can't find the tweet
Reminder that is literally Cultural Marxism
The Leftwing has made women, Black folk, homosexuals, troons, and all the other clowns their proletariat. And straight White people are the "oppressing" bourgeoisie
About that line Lefties always through around about Marx being pro gun. Yes he was pro gun, for the proletariat. Now what did I just say about today's "proletariat"
Why do you think the Leftwing doesn't care about rampant black on black crime or the fact that Black folk are far more intolerant of troons than normie whites. Because to the Leftwing they unironically do see it as dey culcha.
Its only a problem if an oppressor is doing it, and that means you chud
Whoa so kewl you repeated Peter Thiel’s Republican talking points you sound smart so I will base my life around something I read on Cinemaphile. Dont’t @ me
Shills, I wont respond No Cap FR
I don't even know who Peter Thiel is but if anything he's been stealing my talking points
>talking points
I know the breadtubers you watch use this as a dismissal of politically inconvenient facts, but simply labeling it as a talking point of the opposition does nothing to refute it and is incredibly intellectually lazy.
Thats why these big record labels recently tried to push lil uzi vert dressing like a girl, young thug wearing a dress, playboi carti wearing tight jeans and his homosexual mannerisms.
Hood homies still hate gays and bully them at school, they are unironically too primitive and low IQ to be cattle or drones like whites and asians.
Maybe in a couple centuries, who knows? Maybe they will be mixed enough
>karltural marxism
>middle class liberals are leftists
>reddit spacing
Jesus christ what a c**t that gorilla boyega is
Whites did the world a great disservice with their "civil rights" between the Middle Easterners and the Orientals, by now Black folk would have been annihilated or brought to heel.
I thought you wanted it to be faithful to the source material?
BIDEN 2024
They look great
not bad armor tbh
That's better than what I was expecting. Maybe there is hope if we can get passed the diversity shoved in our faces
Am I nuts or does this look like cgi
there's something about the promo shots that make everything look like cgi, I don't get it
expected much worse. Better orcs than Hobbit's
Why are his arms so fricking thin?
Meat wasn't on the menu back then.
they're not uruks
>They look great
They look far worse than what they could be - better than The Hobbit triology ones sure, but still look less organic than what we saw in TLoTR trilogy and with the sort of budget and tech upgrades in the past two decades its just insulting.
Better than the Hobbits, worse than LotR
And we are talking 22 fricking years later
they look like creepy cave homies in skyrim
too think and I don't like the armor. looks like a shitty monster hunter clone earlygame armor
>Orcs moving around in open daylight
why does everything look so cheap and empty in all these post 2015 fantasy productions. is it just that when I was a kid I filled in the world with my imagination now all I see is a production set. its really hard to put my finger on first noticed it on that planet with the orange alien in star wars the force awakens
At least it's not CGI.
>"At least"
cope harder
You really will take offense from anything won't you?
If you watch it even pirated or ironically you're unironically a moron.
Looks pretty good
tolkien today would have said something about white supremacists or something. orks aren't some niogger analogy nor making them pale here some schizo plot against whites
Aren't the First (and early Second) Age orcs just the elves mutilated and corrupted by Morgoth or something? I mean, it makes sense that they're whiter/paler than Uruk-Hai or other later orcs if that origin is true.
you are honestly grasping at straws for this one. jackson's orcs were also very diverse in appearance in terms of skin, eyes, hair and physique and are even subtly different based on their locations like isengard orcs, mordor orcs and gundabad orcs in the hobbit all look quite different from eachother
Yeah it looks ok.
I’m more concerned about that burn over his eye there, if that’s a hand print under the helmet then they might be making the games canon. Along with stupid sexy shelob.
Now that would be worth a kek.
I mean
i miss fightin this homie in that gamecube lotr rpg game like you wouldn't believe
that one looks chinese tbh
Honestly everything i've seen so far in pictures looks good except those horrible black hobbits and elves. The bigger issues i worry about are the writing, the visuals, the music and the "agenda"
>seen so far in pictures looks good
>even the twig arms galadriel yas queen melee figther instead of the twig arms fat breasts and ass galadriel OP spellcaster
Frick you!
Yea the costuming seems ok and at worst “excusable if everything else is good”.
Ditto the sets, bit saturated for my tastes tho.
Comes down to the writing.
they look gray to me.
aren't orcs once elves corrupted?
i'm not afantasy gay but i just assumed it would make since. only the uruk hai or whatever were created
The context of the black orcs literally right there in your picture? The orcs aren't changed to subliminally message a political agenda. They are just multicolored.
If George Floyd had overdosed after a police confrontation with all black cops no one would've even cared
/pol/tard here, there were pale/white orcs in the Jackson movies too, this is shit thread, OP is not with us.
>t. Hitler's grandson
anti-white propaganda, I will NOT be watching this
Shut the frick up, republican.
I don't have a problem with what they are doing because I'm not even gonna watch it anyways. Also, there were some white orcs in the lotr trilogy.
Side note. This book about the the Fall of Númenor, and of the history of the 2nd Age, will be released in November.
>alan lee has gone digital
Well, the book is supposed to include pencil drawings from Alan Lee. Maybe it's just the cover that was made digital.
>edited by Brian Sibley
No. Frick you. After Christopher Tolkien retired that was it.
Who is this homosexual even.
I hear Hostetter actually did a decent work with the nature of Middle-earth book, with the material Christopher had sent him.
>Who is this homosexual even.
He's an editor. He already published a few Tolkien Map books. He also edited the six Movie Guides.
>the Fall of Numenor
I can guess that it had something to do with their open border policy
What is left to be said? Did they find some hidden chest full of Tolkien's musings on Numenor or something?
yes actually there's a lot of notes and scribblings. What Christopher Tolkien included in his publications is only a small portion of the most complete ones.
I think it's supposed to be an organised compilation.
The book is mostly an assembly of lore that had been spread out throughout other books.
Here's the announcement link, from the Tolkien Society:
>https://www.tolkiensociety.org/2022/06/new-tolkien-book-the-fall-of-numenor-to-be-published/
Quite convenient for the book to be released in early November, when the show is still airing.
could i read this shit without having read anything else or would i be lost
Maybe. There would probably be a reference or two of how the big baddie was destroyed at the very beginning and how the world changed. But other than that, I don't think you'd need much else.
Lord of the Ring orcs have always looked moronic. Uruk-hai are the real orcs in the series. Lord of the ring orcs are just goblins/trolls
Good I want some good orcs that game where you play ghostman, frick spider lady, and convert orcs made me luv dem lil homies
Imagine being so insecure that you feel attacked by a creature design because their skin is ever so slightly lighter than how it was previously portrayed. For your own sake go outside OP.
This show isn't happening and I'm tired of pretending it is. It's all fake makebelieve and they aren't going to rape tolkien like that. Nuh uh.
The left wants whites dead.
Ehhh, some of the orcs are described as pale, and the makeup looks good
The important thing to remember is that I won't be watching your nigher show no matter how many bait threads you make shill.
Abd I won't be responding to any. (You)s. Seethe and enjoy to financial bad decision you made.
meds
What the frick happened to right-leaning people on the internet? Five years ago, you people hated feminists for always whining about everything and always somehow making themselves a victim of some imagined "oppression", and now this is literally describing you. God you people are so obnoxious and pathetic.
It's shill bait thread anon.
Stop being moronic
It's being spawned here to distract from the news that the show will have female orcs
They saw that in the long run, whining about things wins. So, why not do it themselves?
>taking any post on teevee seriously
Bookgays, are there any differences between 1st and 2nd age orcs and the 3rd age orcs we see in LotR? I imagine earlier orcs being more deadly and maybe sophisticated since they were closer to the original corruption of elves, with subsequent generations becoming more and more diminutive and less potent. Generally this is in step with everything being better and grander in the past with Tolkien's works
Yeah, pretty much. They had these generals called boldogs that were basically demons shapeshifting into the forms of giant orcs.
The 1st Age wars were basiclly biblical level apocalypse events where demons and angels and enormous armies fought all at the same time. It was crazy stuff.
The big dude here is Melkor, who is basically Satan of the Tolkienverse literally. Sauron was his right hand man and secretary basically. Sauron is basically a limp wristed loser compared to him tbh.
>basically
>basically
>basically
>basically
My homie, please pick up a thesaurus, or at least google "synonyms for basically."
No, there is no difference. In the First Age, even with the support of dragons, werewolves, balrogs, etc, hundreds of thousands and even millions of orcs were needed to successfully defeat the Noldor and it took them 400 years. Also, it's not even 100% certain they were created from Elves. Tolkien seemed to be more inclined to the grown out of mud version later on.
I don't remember anything saying ancient orcs were physically different than "current" orcs. The main difference is that Morgoth was still in charge back then, so all the foul beings he created were at the peak of their power. Plus, his will drove them to fight harder and more ferociously than they otherwise would.
looks entirely fine. I'm sure everything about the production will look good. The story will suck ass.
What makes orcs bad, exactly?
The rampant cannibalization they engage in probably isn’t doing them any favors in terms of public endearment.
They are tortured souls corrupted by Morgoth, they are evil for evils sake at this point.
Those pic actually look great. Why are you homosexuals so pissed? There are a shitload of different races of orcs in LOTR.
Drastically changing the style of the orcs between every film/tv show is bad practice, especially since they never actually say they are different breeds.
what is different about this?
Too uniform. The LOTR Trilogy orcs were almost random in design. These guys all have the same archetype.
Its a differente age. Shadow of Mordor showed different races of Orcs and it was actually great
>/pol/- sorry I mean Cinemaphile is seething about orcs having pale skin
You tards are no better than the chimps on Twitter b***hing about any perceived racial slight to blacks
Nobody in the thread actually has even talked about the white skin for like 90 posts. Actually read.
What they did with LOTR, and the white identity in general is such a double standard. These people are some fricking racist buttholes.
>TARK!
>I may be an orc but at least I'm not some SHITSKINNED, BRILLO HAIRED, PROGNATHOUS, Black person
Weird choice getting Raimi to direct