Illumination has no prestige and no influence on the industry, compared with Gisnep which is a cornerstone of animation and media globally, so probably not.
>because of lack of waifu factor.
Ruby Gillman threads were 20% waifu factor, 30% wasted potential, and 50% the constant news updates over what the movie could have been like from concept art, storyboards, etc being released in a constant rate after the movie's premiere
Well, I mean, it doesn't seem to exist solely as an attack on Western values, history, and tradition by people who hate me with every fiber of their being, so I probably won't comment on it.
It's true. Anxious Kumail Nanjiani duck won't attract furries. And even if he did, there's no one to ship him with besides his wife. And even then, avian characters aren't lewded as easily as mammals. Illumination didn't take the right notes from DreamWorks's recent viral hits.
>there's no one to ship him with besides his wife
me
It's a road trip movie, so maybe if we're lucky they'll bump into some characters and spark additional ships. I know there's some red parrot guy based on the promos
I'm really tired of media based in NYC, feels all played out and dated
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That and California.
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In their 10+ years making features, is this really the first time an Illumination movie's taken place in NYC, with Times Square and everything? Was the dog movie just some generic city or nah?
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Secret Life of Pets is 100% set in NYC
I fully anticipate a cameo
>Illumination didn't take the right notes from DreamWorks's
Migration was in production since 2018-2019. It would have been released in 2020, the pandemic delay it release.
Do you wanna spend a full day just to watch a film about ducks in a broken cinema? The last time I went to the cinema for a film it was spider-verse and I could barely hear the voices because the speaker was fricked. I missed part of it because the film went on forever and there was no intermission. Then there was all the awkward travel time, making sure I was there on time, finding parking just for a cinema experience that had me sitting in a cold dark room with a broken speaker. I had a better time watching spider-verse at home.
Theatres used to do intermissions for ninety minute movies. But they don't do it anymore because it's all about getting people in and out as fast as possible.
But my point stands. Why go to a movie theatre when you can watch it at home with a pause feature?
>there was no intermission
Now I like an intermission as much as the next aging hipster yearning to be a part of a simpler time in history, but even I understand they haven’t been a thing for movies in like, a lifetime. You’d might as well complain that your admission doesn’t also entitle you to a cartoon and serial in addition to the feature.
I usually know about all the movies that people claim to have never heard of until the flop threads start and this is the first time I'm hearing about this movie.
Sadly this. I'm only watching because it looks decently cartoony and because one of the Ernest & Celestine directors is behind it. If that were brought up more, then maybe there'd be some interest.
>Asian-Americans take over the American animation industry and make stories that are completely unrelatable to anyone who isn't Asian >flops ensure
Gee, who could have guessed this would happen?
They look even more generic there. Genuinely what argument are you even trying to make?
You're telling me that you don't think the concept art has more soul than the final product?
Le soul isn't the word I'd use, but I can't be the only one getting extremely tired of le huge kawaii eyes in pixar like lighting movies been using, right? Why can't we go back to pre Little Mermaid era where eyes were normal sized again?
Yep, this year has been catastrophic for theatrical animation. I wouldn't be surprised if it's all sequels and adaptations for the next five years given how only those make any money anymore.
It will be, everything from five Shreks to four Frozens to five Toy Storys
People only watch big IPs based on existing shit so that's all they will get, and there shouldn't be complaining since people didn't support original content nor indie
Illumination is known for making cheap trash. They don’t even have pop music to back up their crappy movie this time. I don’t even think I’ve seen marketing with this. Like I know when some dumb new minions thing is coming or the Mario movie got tons of marketing but I never saw anything for this
Spider-verse and Boy and the heron have done well. Then again those two are unequivocally excellent movies. But we may be on the verge of the end of shitty movies that get a pass because "it's for children"... Perhaps? Am I too optimistic?
They're both style over substance shit that rely on the strength of the IP/studio instead of having a good and coherent narrative adults can enjoy. At least Heron is 2D animation, Spider-Verse has even less redeeming elements.
>Migration >Ruby Gillman >now this
Oof. I hope it's just a bad year for them. Otherwise we should hope to expect nothing but sequels and adaptations from here on out
I had a mini-stroke and meant to type Wish. Haven't checked the numbers for Elemental but there was a lot of doomposting during the initial release week
It barely broke even thanks to Korea. Not a failure, but not that much of a success either. Definitely not worth all the money and effort they put into it, though
>Wacky ducks! Going on migration! Migration south, like ducks do!!
This movie looks so fricking generic and uninspired on every possible level. Like it would be hard for me to think of a more generic underwhelming talking animal animated movie than this.
It will be, everything from five Shreks to four Frozens to five Toy Storys
People only watch big IPs based on existing shit so that's all they will get, and there shouldn't be complaining since people didn't support original content nor indie
The premise sucks and the writing is toothless. Frick you.
I do want more princesses but not the shitty subvert your expectations girlboss kinds we've been getting for ages. After Wreck It Ralph got a sequel that was basically just Disney apologizing for ever making sweet female princess characters in the past and insulting everyone who ever liked them, and Nintendo starting to show signs of being wary for even Princess Peach with help of Illumination's shitty westernized version of her beginning to bleed into game marketing, it just seems like a dead ideal and archetype.
Yeah let's make Minions 3, that's a movie people are asking for, and forget shit like Lilo & Stitch, Toy Story, Shrek, Klaus etc which no one asked for.
I don't think you quite get the level of economic recession we're almost at, one they won't say officially
Chrismas sales are far down this year and many companies are laying of 20% or more of staff. No one is going to theaters because it's a luxury in a period where most people are struggling to make ends meet
economy's been weird as frick this year, really wish we'd just go into a recession already and get it over rather than just teeter close in some ways but not at all in others, very annoying
Why bother? Unless it's some kinda cultural event like with Barbenheimer or something really huge like MCU films used to be, doesn't seem to be much point
It'll be out on streaming like 2-3 months later anyhow
I don't think you quite get the level of economic recession we're almost at, one they won't say officially
Chrismas sales are far down this year and many companies are laying of 20% or more of staff. No one is going to theaters because it's a luxury in a period where most people are struggling to make ends meet
said, theaters are massively overcharging because they still haven't financially recovered from the pandemic (and probably never will), and most people are now used to just staying home and watching whatever movie they feel like on a streaming service instead. We are living through the beginning of the end of cinema.
There ain't much worth watching, frankly. Disney phoned it in so hard they had to pay roaming charges and Illumination's reputation is garbage.
The theater I went to see Godzilla in was fricking packed, and the concert movies are pulling huge numbers. People want to see movies, they just don't want to see SHITTY movies.
It's almost like that subtitles bullshit was just a normalgay complaint, ie not the actual audience for those fricking films. The world seriously needs an neo-subculture movement. No more mass appeal.
I saw Saltburn last night and it had a decently-sized audience, even if it was one of the smaller rooms. You're right about movies needing to feel like BIG EVENTS to do well at the box office.
>The theater I went to see Godzilla in was fricking packed
Wild that people will turn up to see a movie that needs subtitles
Why? Because their animated movies usually make a bajillion dollars and Nintendo being Nintendo probably saw this and said we want some too. Plus Universal has the whole theme park thing going on for them which I think was another contributing factor.
Duck movie's box office performance will be the true test of whether Illumination bleeds gold or not. If they can be profitable even with something as innocuous as what they're about to release, then they really are magic.
>Why did they give the adaptation to Illumination, of all studios?
Likely had to do with Nintendo having a themepark deal with Universal and Universal co-owning Illumination.
Let's see >Uses a IP people actually care about
Or >IP no one fricking cares about
Ain looking too good for le originality argument...
Or, maybe if you had a sane brain >IP that actually has content people would want to be entertained by >VS >IP about fricking ducks living a ducks life in le hooman's world
It's almost like they knew what they were doing and wanted to force a shitty narrative that no one wants something new anymore, when in reality no one wants shitty ideas forced in to project a narrative to be lazy hacks not making GOOD ideas for new movies.
Visually unimpressive film. For such a dull premise they should have gone harder into its art direction as a pull because its concept can’t carry by itself. The whole thing just looks like a direct to Netflix movie.
Only DreamWorks and Sony (and sometimes Pixar) seem to be making big moves stylistically. Illumination is known for playing it safe. They still take bigger risks than Disney tho
Well it's about time those frickers had something crap out on them. Might force them to pull their heads in.
Or, more likely, double-down on known successes...
There's not much to be excited about unless you think the art style looks nice or you want to frick the mom. Story and cast of characters seem very generic.
It's clearly what the people want. You can't make surreal memes out of something as simple as "ducks migrate for the winter." The ducks are designed in a pretty modest and realistic way. Nothing about them stands out or makes them marketable. Fricking Rio at least had flashy blue macaws and a whole slew of colorful Brazilian birds. Migration has… ducks? and… pigeons?
Since I hadn't heard of this I went and watched three trailers and it was...Ok? There was nothing to pull me in to watch it. None of the characters were interesting and their problem seems stupid as frick. Above all it wasn't funny. It seemed to be trying really hard to be funny but all the jokes just fall flat. I couldn't even get my toddler to sit through the second trailer.
What Migration needed was a BIG music artist to do an original song for the soundtrack, one that could go viral on TikTok. Despicable Me had Pharrell, Turning Red had Billie Eilish, Migration needs star power. No one is gonna care about Kumail Nanjiani, Elizabeth Banks, or Danny DeVito. Your next move is the soundtrack.
Not really a fair comparison, the right had zero advertising whatsoever either but it was coasting on the Ghibli brandname and the fact there hasn't been a movie in over 10 years from the company.
The equivalent would be if Disney stopped making movies for 10 years and suddenly released a 2d white princess musical with no advertising. It's really not the same thing. If you wanted to dab on Cinemaphile you should use that Suzume movie.
>On-stage when the lights came back on, Renner and Meledandri unpacked the various music, cinematography, design and visual choices that animated the 25-minute excerpt, placing particular emphasis on Renner’s background as graphic-novel artist and 2D animator.
>The director spoke of his process translating the minimalist style that marked his previous films “Ernest and Celestine” and “The Big Bad Fox and Other Tales” for a more straightforward CG landscape where everything needed to be shown.
>Taking inspiration from mother nature, who thoughtfully designed the real life critters to be intensely physically expressive, Renner gave his mallard characters wide and expressive eyes, with undulating brows that act as punctuation marks, rising and falling to underscore each line and emotion.
Here we are. The reason this movie blows. They needed a plot generic and inoffensive enough to be shown in Chinese theaters. They used Celebrity voices which is an awful trend. And they just used the same style as every other 3D movie.
Illumination will always remain a second banana to other studios. Those frogs have never made anything really magnificent, they're the McDonald's of movie studios. Buying what they're selling won't improve anything.
How is that a bad thing? They make movies with budgets under 150 million then sell them as "take your kids to see it" because a family going to the theatre takes up 3+ seats without any dumb messages like Turning Red being about puberty and how the creator hates her mom.
yeah, because none of you ever see shit that isn't already sequels. What's the last original thing you spent money on seeing?
what's the last animated film you went to see that was original?
there's been a lot. But you haven't seen any, have you?
I haven't seen a new movie in a while because there isn't anything worth seeing, I'll definitely check out
Only DreamWorks and Sony (and sometimes Pixar) seem to be making big moves stylistically. Illumination is known for playing it safe. They still take bigger risks than Disney tho
whenever it comes out
Don't be an idiot, support original AND artist driven animated films.
I saw Luck at the theater with my kid. Most shit either is a sequel or comes straight to streaming though. Or is just straight trash like Wish that you would have to pay me to watch.
Oh if you want ones I have just seen but not in theaters?
Nimona
Luck
Leo
Ruby Gillman torrented because it looked like and was shit.
Elemental
Super Mario Bros
The Monkey King
Sea Beasts
The Bad Guys
Turning Red
This is just off the top of my head though I did have to go look up the names to some of them. I have a kid and watch a lot of shit I have no interest in because of it
>WHY CAN'T WE HAVE CREATIVE NEW IPS THAT AREN'T ALL FART JOKES ALL THE TIME >no not like that
the reason we have fricking nothing of quality and endless sequels to shit is because it's absolutely pointless to fund original things because none of you ever give it a chance.
you realize they're a vendor studio, right? they animate the shit that others pay them to. You judge them for that when you should be judging the directors and whatever who made them do it.
you're the type of person who just sees a studio logo and assumes the same 5 guys make all the movies that come out of it, because you saw a pixar dvd extra, don't you
>you MUST consume the generic animated kid's film anon >it will LITERALLY save western animation >erm, ackshully, YOU'RE the problem if you don't want to watch this generic kid's film that's no different from anything else being produced by the major animation studios
hollywood is so creatively bankrupt that the original stuff is as much of a soulless husk as the boring sequels and remakes, but the latter has more chance to get a sucker on the seats
honestly this tbh. I actually paid and went to watch Coraline at theaters when they rereleased because it't that good, and there was a lot of people at the theaters. I'm not wasting my time watching generic crap
Yeah, the only thing paying for Migration will accomplish is making it more likely for Migration 2 to get greenlit. And then if you complain it gets a sequel, the response is “then you shouldn’t have paid for the first one.”
Sequels aren't the root of the problem anyway, more original (AND GOOD) films would be nice but it's that executives that don't understand animation are in charge that's actually the problem, they're not willing to let anybody take a risk whether it be original or based on something established.
It's annoying because Migration could have been a National lampoons inspired road trip movie told through the lens of a family of ducks migrating instead we get whatever the hell this is.
Family of ducks that never migrate because (cowardly and dumb) father is afraid of leaving their pond. They decide to migrate and (because of cowardly and dumb father) get turned around instead and end up in NYC unable to fly away because...reasons. They team up with the birds of the city including some ducks farmed to be served at a pricy restaurant to escape and make it to Jamaica
>movies
the first one was trash but the second one was actually pretty good, we need more movies that are willing to experiment and actually take advantage of the medium.
Name an animated movie thats not chicken little or the new miazaki thats about birds and is good?
rio? eh not really.
penguins madagasgar - nah
chicken run - nah
angry birds - get out
legend of nimh and the rescuers down under - those are old ass stuff (they were good, now they're old)
I feel like its fair to say 99% of animated movies about birds are shit?
Prove me wrong?
It's now a trend among zoomers saying Chicken Little is good, specifically with the new Disney movies like Wish or Strange World just for contrarianism points.
Should have made the ducks look cute to hook the kids. Story wise, no kid is interested in a movie about how family road trips suck. Do families even go on road trips anymore?
>Should have made the ducks look cute to hook the kids.
They did. Universal is even pushing the baby duck in a lot of the advertising:
They made a Macy's Parade Balloon.
It's clearly what the people want. You can't make surreal memes out of something as simple as "ducks migrate for the winter." The ducks are designed in a pretty modest and realistic way. Nothing about them stands out or makes them marketable. Fricking Rio at least had flashy blue macaws and a whole slew of colorful Brazilian birds. Migration has… ducks? and… pigeons?
>Should have made the ducks look cute to hook the kids
I hate this mentality so fricking much and you show have no understanding about animation or how it works, so I don't gonna read the rest. Now go back to suck Paw Patrol's dick or something.
apparently they spend hundereds of millions on marketing, usually the same or more than they do on production
SO WHY DOES LITERALLY NO ONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE MOVIES UNTIL THEY DROP.
theres virtually no advertising anywhere for these movies
Is it corruption?
Is it money laundering?
is it for tax fraud?
where does the numbers for large marketing budgets come from and go?!!
He sings a new swan song every few years. Remember when The Wind Rises was supposed to be his last film ever? The old man has worked so much in his life that now he doesn't know how to rest. He will produce movies until the Death gets him.
>Release a movie about the Summer Olympics in Winter 2023 >Release a movie about seasonal autumn migration in winter
Why do movie studios do this? Is it deliberate?
When I went to see Godzilla Minus One the other day, I got my tickets for the showing that day and only four seats were reserved. By the time I got there a few hours later, half the theater was full. It might shock a lot of people, but there's an entire community of people out there that go to the impulsively movies and buy their tickets on the spot.
I mean, who the FRICK is going to reserve tickets for fricking Migration? This isn't some blockbuster event, it's not as if you're not going to get a seat.
Can you really do a successful movie that centers around a group of the same animal, or has that ship already pass with modern cinema and moviegoers? Because I for one know that doing anything cow centric is a death sentence.
Wait, this movie is already out?
Why are all of these new original movies always getting zero advertisement but the fricking nostalgiaslop gets shilled every second you blink?
I've seen ads during football games. They… don't do a great job inciting hype. I wouldn't blame anyone for shrugging it off as "generic kiddie shit," and I'm someone who actually wants to watch it.
Will we have a hundred threads over this bombing like Wish and Marvels?
cucks here care more about other people's opinion about cartoons than for the cartoons themselves
it's not disney so probably not
Yes because people hate Illumination just as much as they hate Disney
Illumination has no prestige and no influence on the industry, compared with Gisnep which is a cornerstone of animation and media globally, so probably not.
It's not Disney
I would expect about 30 percent less than ruby gillman because of lack of waifu factor.
If ther'es a frickable duck, readjust.
Was it ever alive? What's the selling point.
>What's the selling point.
DUCKS
>because of lack of waifu factor.
Ruby Gillman threads were 20% waifu factor, 30% wasted potential, and 50% the constant news updates over what the movie could have been like from concept art, storyboards, etc being released in a constant rate after the movie's premiere
GO DUCK GO BRUCK
GO DUCK, GET FRICKED.
No, if anything shills will say it's kino and "you should really watch it", like they did with the Dreamworks movie.
Well, I mean, it doesn't seem to exist solely as an attack on Western values, history, and tradition by people who hate me with every fiber of their being, so I probably won't comment on it.
cry harder chuddie
Seeing as this thread the first I'm hearing about this movies existence, probably not.
WOOOOOOO
I thought this came out years ago.
It's almost the same plot as both Yellow Bird and A Stork's Journey, minus the odd man out element.
Looks like their goose is cooked.
Man you literally had the joke in the title
>It seems nobody gives a duck about it.
Carlos is a little more clever than that
Even Carlos has standards
Oh come on, no 'fowl' joke?
Who needs fowl when we have turkeys like you around.
Carlos you really need to lay off the quack already
No one liked ducks anymore they’re far too played out
What other duck movies are there?
Duck duck Goose
What killed the movie?
People are sick of migrants
heh
No hot daddy
It's true. Anxious Kumail Nanjiani duck won't attract furries. And even if he did, there's no one to ship him with besides his wife. And even then, avian characters aren't lewded as easily as mammals. Illumination didn't take the right notes from DreamWorks's recent viral hits.
>there's no one to ship him with besides his wife
me
Todd is so fricking cute, bros…
It's a road trip movie, so maybe if we're lucky they'll bump into some characters and spark additional ships. I know there's some red parrot guy based on the promos
It’s technically a roadtrip movie, but I get the feeling a lot of it takes place in New York.
I'm really tired of media based in NYC, feels all played out and dated
That and California.
In their 10+ years making features, is this really the first time an Illumination movie's taken place in NYC, with Times Square and everything? Was the dog movie just some generic city or nah?
Secret Life of Pets is 100% set in NYC
I fully anticipate a cameo
>Kung Fu Panda 2 Wolf
Nobody cared about that guy
Frick off Sharktalegay
>Illumination didn't take the right notes from DreamWorks's
Migration was in production since 2018-2019. It would have been released in 2020, the pandemic delay it release.
Do you wanna spend a full day just to watch a film about ducks in a broken cinema? The last time I went to the cinema for a film it was spider-verse and I could barely hear the voices because the speaker was fricked. I missed part of it because the film went on forever and there was no intermission. Then there was all the awkward travel time, making sure I was there on time, finding parking just for a cinema experience that had me sitting in a cold dark room with a broken speaker. I had a better time watching spider-verse at home.
I had a better time not watching spider-verse
Where else am i going to jerk off?
Find better movie theaters.
They're all getting like this. Theatres aren't financially viable anymore.
>there was no intermission
homie you need to get your prostate checked
Theatres used to do intermissions for ninety minute movies. But they don't do it anymore because it's all about getting people in and out as fast as possible.
But my point stands. Why go to a movie theatre when you can watch it at home with a pause feature?
Try not living in a shithole
>there was no intermission
Now I like an intermission as much as the next aging hipster yearning to be a part of a simpler time in history, but even I understand they haven’t been a thing for movies in like, a lifetime. You’d might as well complain that your admission doesn’t also entitle you to a cartoon and serial in addition to the feature.
Lack of effective advertising and an uninteresting premise. I didnt even know about this movie until this thread
That happened to me a bunch of times this year. I don't even know a thing exists until it has already died.
I usually know about all the movies that people claim to have never heard of until the flop threads start and this is the first time I'm hearing about this movie.
Let's be real, it just looked boring from the getgo.
Sadly this. I'm only watching because it looks decently cartoony and because one of the Ernest & Celestine directors is behind it. If that were brought up more, then maybe there'd be some interest.
It's way easier to just say "From the studio behind MINIONS"
EVERYONE love the minions
Can the French really save Illumination’s reputation?
The animation studio is firstly french, Universal is the producer of the studio. Look closely at the animation credit, mostly french name.
Ducks are a much harder sell than dogs or even other talking animals.
This, birds aren't cool or appealing to most people.
Everything about it screams "Watch it on streaming"
it's visually boring
There is nothing interesting about it. Simple as that.
Me.
Duck tastes pretty good. I usually bring one to thanksgiving dinner as a nice side dish.
It just seems plain as hell. Its a movie about a family of ducks flying around. That is it. That is the premise.
Everyone never heard of it until now, and still there are many others that still are unaware of it's existence.
We need MEMES
very bland and uninteresting premise is what it really comes down to.
woke geese
>Asian-Americans take over the American animation industry and make stories that are completely unrelatable to anyone who isn't Asian
>flops ensure
Gee, who could have guessed this would happen?
Is this the concept art? It's filled with SOUL
What a shame that they couldn't replicate the mood of the concept art in the final work
2D has "too many limitations compared to 3D"
They look even more generic there. Genuinely what argument are you even trying to make?
You're telling me that you don't think the concept art has more soul than the final product?
Define “soul”
was going to answer you but if you can't figure it out, you're soulless
>OTGW pic
Opinion discarded
Le soul isn't the word I'd use, but I can't be the only one getting extremely tired of le huge kawaii eyes in pixar like lighting movies been using, right? Why can't we go back to pre Little Mermaid era where eyes were normal sized again?
What are you asking for exactly?
I guess that’s what happens when your film is a completely original IP.
Yep, this year has been catastrophic for theatrical animation. I wouldn't be surprised if it's all sequels and adaptations for the next five years given how only those make any money anymore.
It will be, everything from five Shreks to four Frozens to five Toy Storys
People only watch big IPs based on existing shit so that's all they will get, and there shouldn't be complaining since people didn't support original content nor indie
Illumination is known for making cheap trash. They don’t even have pop music to back up their crappy movie this time. I don’t even think I’ve seen marketing with this. Like I know when some dumb new minions thing is coming or the Mario movie got tons of marketing but I never saw anything for this
Spider-verse and Boy and the heron have done well. Then again those two are unequivocally excellent movies. But we may be on the verge of the end of shitty movies that get a pass because "it's for children"... Perhaps? Am I too optimistic?
They're both style over substance shit that rely on the strength of the IP/studio instead of having a good and coherent narrative adults can enjoy. At least Heron is 2D animation, Spider-Verse has even less redeeming elements.
>Migration
>Ruby Gillman
>now this
Oof. I hope it's just a bad year for them. Otherwise we should hope to expect nothing but sequels and adaptations from here on out
>now this
Anon, this IS a Migration thread. Also didn't that fire water romcom end up doing well? Original animation isn't entirely unprofitable.
I had a mini-stroke and meant to type Wish. Haven't checked the numbers for Elemental but there was a lot of doomposting during the initial release week
It barely broke even thanks to Korea. Not a failure, but not that much of a success either. Definitely not worth all the money and effort they put into it, though
>Wacky ducks! Going on migration! Migration south, like ducks do!!
This movie looks so fricking generic and uninspired on every possible level. Like it would be hard for me to think of a more generic underwhelming talking animal animated movie than this.
Yeah, where are the talking inanimate objects? Where are the capeshits and the princesses?
The premise sucks and the writing is toothless. Frick you.
Enjoy Frozen 4, Toy Story 6 and Lion King live action 3, that’s all you support so that’s all you get
I do want more princesses but not the shitty subvert your expectations girlboss kinds we've been getting for ages. After Wreck It Ralph got a sequel that was basically just Disney apologizing for ever making sweet female princess characters in the past and insulting everyone who ever liked them, and Nintendo starting to show signs of being wary for even Princess Peach with help of Illumination's shitty westernized version of her beginning to bleed into game marketing, it just seems like a dead ideal and archetype.
>a more generic underwhelming talking animal animated movie than this.
The long search is over.
>Wow, the Mario Movie made a billion dollars with Chris Pratt! Make him Garfield!
unf
Love of my life fr
Pam always looks like she’s down to duck
seek god
trash, the green one is better
would
I hope we get more porn of the green duck and not the moronic one on the right
This is just another film nobody's asked for. It's like they stopped testing the waters and now just greenlight things randomly.
Yeah let's make Minions 3, that's a movie people are asking for, and forget shit like Lilo & Stitch, Toy Story, Shrek, Klaus etc which no one asked for.
Minions 2 nearly made a billion with many people saying it was better than the first so yeah.
Nobody asked for a PiB sequel either anon
Aren't most movies "not asked for"?
This has just been a terrible year for animation in general. Are people just not going to theaters anymore?
I don't think you quite get the level of economic recession we're almost at, one they won't say officially
Chrismas sales are far down this year and many companies are laying of 20% or more of staff. No one is going to theaters because it's a luxury in a period where most people are struggling to make ends meet
economy's been weird as frick this year, really wish we'd just go into a recession already and get it over rather than just teeter close in some ways but not at all in others, very annoying
The securities market is just floating on clouds right now.
Until that starts getting shaky there won't be any recession.
Why bother? Unless it's some kinda cultural event like with Barbenheimer or something really huge like MCU films used to be, doesn't seem to be much point
It'll be out on streaming like 2-3 months later anyhow
Pretty much. Aside from what
said, theaters are massively overcharging because they still haven't financially recovered from the pandemic (and probably never will), and most people are now used to just staying home and watching whatever movie they feel like on a streaming service instead. We are living through the beginning of the end of cinema.
There ain't much worth watching, frankly. Disney phoned it in so hard they had to pay roaming charges and Illumination's reputation is garbage.
The theater I went to see Godzilla in was fricking packed, and the concert movies are pulling huge numbers. People want to see movies, they just don't want to see SHITTY movies.
>The theater I went to see Godzilla in was fricking packed
Wild that people will turn up to see a movie that needs subtitles
It's almost like that subtitles bullshit was just a normalgay complaint, ie not the actual audience for those fricking films. The world seriously needs an neo-subculture movement. No more mass appeal.
I saw Saltburn last night and it had a decently-sized audience, even if it was one of the smaller rooms. You're right about movies needing to feel like BIG EVENTS to do well at the box office.
Godzilla turns heads
Why should anyone pay for anything with 100x higher inflation rates in the past 4 years?
Stop making slop and fix America first, frickwads.
I honestly want to known who thought a movie about ducks was a good idea
The poop joke ruined it for me. For that alone I will not be seeing it in theaters.
I mean... yeah. Danny DiVito aside, who the frick wants to watch a movie about ducks migrating? This shit ain't Mario.
Mario was awful tought
Duck Broken
>November 30th
Cinemaphile fell for it again…when will you learn
wow im so surprised no really color me shocked wow
Strange how Illumination releases both their most successful and least succesful movies in the same year.
DON’T SAY THAT. MIGRATION WILL BE A SMASH HIT I JUS KNOW IT
Why did they give the adaptation to Illumination, of all studios? It wouldn't have been my first or second choice
Why? Because their animated movies usually make a bajillion dollars and Nintendo being Nintendo probably saw this and said we want some too. Plus Universal has the whole theme park thing going on for them which I think was another contributing factor.
Nintendo wants to make money, so they chose the company that releases Billion dollar smashes like its nothing.
Duck movie's box office performance will be the true test of whether Illumination bleeds gold or not. If they can be profitable even with something as innocuous as what they're about to release, then they really are magic.
I mean the thumbnail Cinemaphile is reacting to is almost a month old and not even accurate anymore.
>Why did they give the adaptation to Illumination, of all studios?
Likely had to do with Nintendo having a themepark deal with Universal and Universal co-owning Illumination.
>one of the most recognizable video game icons all ages know
vs
>ducks
Chris is about to beg Miyamoto to let them work on way more Nintendo movies.
Miyamoto is too busy working on the next Boy and the Heron movie sequel
Let's see
>Uses a IP people actually care about
Or
>IP no one fricking cares about
Ain looking too good for le originality argument...
Or, maybe if you had a sane brain
>IP that actually has content people would want to be entertained by
>VS
>IP about fricking ducks living a ducks life in le hooman's world
It's almost like they knew what they were doing and wanted to force a shitty narrative that no one wants something new anymore, when in reality no one wants shitty ideas forced in to project a narrative to be lazy hacks not making GOOD ideas for new movies.
Visually unimpressive film. For such a dull premise they should have gone harder into its art direction as a pull because its concept can’t carry by itself. The whole thing just looks like a direct to Netflix movie.
Only DreamWorks and Sony (and sometimes Pixar) seem to be making big moves stylistically. Illumination is known for playing it safe. They still take bigger risks than Disney tho
That Matt Braly / Rebecca Sugar movie has a high chance of being hand-drawn
So will Brad Bird’s Ray Gunn movie for Skydance.
>a movie about ducks wanting to fly to New York then Jamaica to frick Latinos and blacks
still won't beat sitting ducks.
Did the little parrot dude speak too I forgot
Well it's about time those frickers had something crap out on them. Might force them to pull their heads in.
Or, more likely, double-down on known successes...
Good job Awkafina.
When I saw the trailer I thought to myself that I will pirate it eventually, but not too soon.
I didn't really get that excited about it.
There's not much to be excited about unless you think the art style looks nice or you want to frick the mom. Story and cast of characters seem very generic.
I see
>want to frick the mom.
Sure, but why stop there?
Cinemaphile will frick anyone and anything named Gwen. It's in our nature.
>best hugger
Oh wow. It IS bad.
I'm going to take a wild guess, and assume Sing is hard carrying Illumination? Unless a ton of people are into Minions or something weird like that.
Minions shit sells. Primus knows why.
Great, now they'll double down on those fricking Minions...
It's clearly what the people want. You can't make surreal memes out of something as simple as "ducks migrate for the winter." The ducks are designed in a pretty modest and realistic way. Nothing about them stands out or makes them marketable. Fricking Rio at least had flashy blue macaws and a whole slew of colorful Brazilian birds. Migration has… ducks? and… pigeons?
The old man in me is irate at people seeing movies for the "meme factor", but hey, whatever helps the industry
Do companies not advertise anymore? I had no idea this even existed until I clicked this thread
I've been pelted by commercials for this movie. Marketing is Illuminations strongest suit.
how long ago did the pelting start?
NTA, first commercial I recall was this week.
Do you not watch network television anymore?
Nobody does. They should be advertising this on Hulu. I watch cartoons on Hulu. Advertise some fricking cartoons.
>DUCKS
I'll be there.
I have never even heard of this movie? Did they do ANY advertising?
They made a Macy's Parade Balloon.
Since I hadn't heard of this I went and watched three trailers and it was...Ok? There was nothing to pull me in to watch it. None of the characters were interesting and their problem seems stupid as frick. Above all it wasn't funny. It seemed to be trying really hard to be funny but all the jokes just fall flat. I couldn't even get my toddler to sit through the second trailer.
People watch that still?
Did their grinch movie have any advertising?
Too much advertising
What Migration needed was a BIG music artist to do an original song for the soundtrack, one that could go viral on TikTok. Despicable Me had Pharrell, Turning Red had Billie Eilish, Migration needs star power. No one is gonna care about Kumail Nanjiani, Elizabeth Banks, or Danny DeVito. Your next move is the soundtrack.
What the frick happened to western animation?
Not really a fair comparison, the right had zero advertising whatsoever either but it was coasting on the Ghibli brandname and the fact there hasn't been a movie in over 10 years from the company.
and wish isn’t coasting on disney brand name?
The equivalent would be if Disney stopped making movies for 10 years and suddenly released a 2d white princess musical with no advertising. It's really not the same thing. If you wanted to dab on Cinemaphile you should use that Suzume movie.
>On-stage when the lights came back on, Renner and Meledandri unpacked the various music, cinematography, design and visual choices that animated the 25-minute excerpt, placing particular emphasis on Renner’s background as graphic-novel artist and 2D animator.
>The director spoke of his process translating the minimalist style that marked his previous films “Ernest and Celestine” and “The Big Bad Fox and Other Tales” for a more straightforward CG landscape where everything needed to be shown.
>Taking inspiration from mother nature, who thoughtfully designed the real life critters to be intensely physically expressive, Renner gave his mallard characters wide and expressive eyes, with undulating brows that act as punctuation marks, rising and falling to underscore each line and emotion.
The expressive eyes definitely add a lot to some otherwise bland designs.
This movie does seem designed more to appeal to a Chinese market than an American one.
how exactly?
Carol Kane heron is pretty much the main reason I wanna see it.
Love me some Carol Kane
Here we are. The reason this movie blows. They needed a plot generic and inoffensive enough to be shown in Chinese theaters. They used Celebrity voices which is an awful trend. And they just used the same style as every other 3D movie.
Illumination will always remain a second banana to other studios. Those frogs have never made anything really magnificent, they're the McDonald's of movie studios. Buying what they're selling won't improve anything.
How is that a bad thing? They make movies with budgets under 150 million then sell them as "take your kids to see it" because a family going to the theatre takes up 3+ seats without any dumb messages like Turning Red being about puberty and how the creator hates her mom.
Even if this was somehow successful it would just become another franchise for Illumination to milk (Despicable Me, Sing, Pets, etc)
yeah, because none of you ever see shit that isn't already sequels. What's the last original thing you spent money on seeing?
what's the last animated film you went to see that was original?
there's been a lot. But you haven't seen any, have you?
I haven't seen a new movie in a while because there isn't anything worth seeing, I'll definitely check out
whenever it comes out
Don't be an idiot, support original AND artist driven animated films.
name 5 animated films you've watched in the last 10 years that weren't sequels.
I saw Luck at the theater with my kid. Most shit either is a sequel or comes straight to streaming though. Or is just straight trash like Wish that you would have to pay me to watch.
answer the question:
>name 5 animated films you've watched in the last 10 years that weren't sequels.
you've named one. 4 more. come on, I'm sure you can, right?
Oh if you want ones I have just seen but not in theaters?
Nimona
Luck
Leo
Ruby Gillman torrented because it looked like and was shit.
Elemental
Super Mario Bros
The Monkey King
Sea Beasts
The Bad Guys
Turning Red
This is just off the top of my head though I did have to go look up the names to some of them. I have a kid and watch a lot of shit I have no interest in because of it
>WHY CAN'T WE HAVE CREATIVE NEW IPS THAT AREN'T ALL FART JOKES ALL THE TIME
>no not like that
the reason we have fricking nothing of quality and endless sequels to shit is because it's absolutely pointless to fund original things because none of you ever give it a chance.
if you're expecting a genuinely good IP to come out of fricking Illumination you're a genuine dumbass
you realize they're a vendor studio, right? they animate the shit that others pay them to. You judge them for that when you should be judging the directors and whatever who made them do it.
you're the type of person who just sees a studio logo and assumes the same 5 guys make all the movies that come out of it, because you saw a pixar dvd extra, don't you
No, Minions/Despicable Me and Secret Life of Pets were both original creations.
>you MUST consume the generic animated kid's film anon
>it will LITERALLY save western animation
>erm, ackshully, YOU'RE the problem if you don't want to watch this generic kid's film that's no different from anything else being produced by the major animation studios
hollywood is so creatively bankrupt that the original stuff is as much of a soulless husk as the boring sequels and remakes, but the latter has more chance to get a sucker on the seats
honestly this tbh. I actually paid and went to watch Coraline at theaters when they rereleased because it't that good, and there was a lot of people at the theaters. I'm not wasting my time watching generic crap
Yeah, the only thing paying for Migration will accomplish is making it more likely for Migration 2 to get greenlit. And then if you complain it gets a sequel, the response is “then you shouldn’t have paid for the first one.”
Sequels aren't the root of the problem anyway, more original (AND GOOD) films would be nice but it's that executives that don't understand animation are in charge that's actually the problem, they're not willing to let anybody take a risk whether it be original or based on something established.
It's annoying because Migration could have been a National lampoons inspired road trip movie told through the lens of a family of ducks migrating instead we get whatever the hell this is.
What's the actual plot?
Family of ducks that never migrate because (cowardly and dumb) father is afraid of leaving their pond. They decide to migrate and (because of cowardly and dumb father) get turned around instead and end up in NYC unable to fly away because...reasons. They team up with the birds of the city including some ducks farmed to be served at a pricy restaurant to escape and make it to Jamaica
I can't wait for Migration 2! Where will the herd migrate to next??
So it's Chicken Run with ducks
How was Chicken Run 2?
I think the puss in boots movies proves there can still be good animated movies, even if they're not originals.
>movies
the first one was trash but the second one was actually pretty good, we need more movies that are willing to experiment and actually take advantage of the medium.
Yeah I meant the second one, I don't know where that s came from.
Is Duck L’Orange good?
It's pretty good
Their butchered French in the TV spots always makes it sound like they're saying "ranch" or some shit
>you NEED to watch SING anon
>this movie is ORIGINAL and therefore will do something(???) to improve wider industry problems!
>dude, just trust me!
Birds. Don't. Sell.
The boyfriend was hot, but other than that it was a piece of shit
I liked season 3 better than 2 and sad not even Tuca's VA controversy sparked actual conversation. Many a bird waifu lost to nothingness.
REESE YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS
Best wedding planner. The aquitted hummingbird ex-gf was the cutest of that group.
Freckle was the only relatable character for me, if that makes me sexist, fine.
shit, I mean speckle.
At least there were no fart jokes.
I don't like how they did the sexual dimorphism with the beaks but I wish it did alright still, too bad
Name an animated movie thats not chicken little or the new miazaki thats about birds and is good?
rio? eh not really.
penguins madagasgar - nah
chicken run - nah
angry birds - get out
legend of nimh and the rescuers down under - those are old ass stuff (they were good, now they're old)
I feel like its fair to say 99% of animated movies about birds are shit?
Prove me wrong?
Leafie
Well i didnt even remember that, i think i need to rewatch.
But i'll give you that, well played.
Happy Feet
Chicken Run
Owl's of Ga'Hoole
Surfs Up
mfw i thought of happy feet but didnt want to mention that shit.
i said chicken run.
owls of ga'hoole - ok pretty good, but when 2% of movie watchers know it, it kinda failed
surfs up - no thanks.
I said name GOOD movies.
>chicken little
>good
Huh?
It's now a trend among zoomers saying Chicken Little is good, specifically with the new Disney movies like Wish or Strange World just for contrarianism points.
>Chicken Run
>Not good
It seems that you may in fact not have relevant opinions
Storks.
>chicken run - nah
your opinion is shallow and pedantic
discarded like the rest of the /trash/
also Secret of NIMH was about rats you fricking dope
surf's up
the first one at least
>or the new miazaki
>good
not with that third act. Also chicken run was great
FRIEND OR FOE?
DUCKFLOP.
WOOHOO.
They should’ve made a movie about the Duck Nuns instead.
Surprised nobody tried to.
Should have made the ducks look cute to hook the kids. Story wise, no kid is interested in a movie about how family road trips suck. Do families even go on road trips anymore?
>Should have made the ducks look cute to hook the kids.
They did. Universal is even pushing the baby duck in a lot of the advertising:
>Should have made the ducks look cute to hook the kids
I hate this mentality so fricking much and you show have no understanding about animation or how it works, so I don't gonna read the rest. Now go back to suck Paw Patrol's dick or something.
Illumination can just make another Super Mario Bros movie to print another billion or so dollars to make up for it, easy.
it's truue
Sing 2 had at last decent female cast. Migration has only dicks. I mean ducks.
Sing 2 was a hot turd. Also pic related it's a plagiarism from those Puleva commercials.
>new IP illumination movie
they need like 50 millions worldwide to break even, they'll be fine
apparently they spend hundereds of millions on marketing, usually the same or more than they do on production
SO WHY DOES LITERALLY NO ONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE MOVIES UNTIL THEY DROP.
theres virtually no advertising anywhere for these movies
Is it corruption?
Is it money laundering?
is it for tax fraud?
where does the numbers for large marketing budgets come from and go?!!
I just wanna see a new Sing movie.
>tfw a mid Miyazaki movie is going to make more money than an Illumination movie in Burgerstan
Miyazaki-san's swan song is… mid??
Yes.
damn
He sings a new swan song every few years. Remember when The Wind Rises was supposed to be his last film ever? The old man has worked so much in his life that now he doesn't know how to rest. He will produce movies until the Death gets him.
>reddit taste gif
opinion discarded
Better than most of Illumination’s filmography
They should have made a Duck Hunt movie.
Illumination is goddamn screwed right here.
You're fricking nasty, dude…
Nah. Minions will keep them afloat. And Mario sequel.
>Release a movie about the Summer Olympics in Winter 2023
>Release a movie about seasonal autumn migration in winter
Why do movie studios do this? Is it deliberate?
When I went to see Godzilla Minus One the other day, I got my tickets for the showing that day and only four seats were reserved. By the time I got there a few hours later, half the theater was full. It might shock a lot of people, but there's an entire community of people out there that go to the impulsively movies and buy their tickets on the spot.
I mean, who the FRICK is going to reserve tickets for fricking Migration? This isn't some blockbuster event, it's not as if you're not going to get a seat.
>I mean, who the FRICK is going to reserve tickets for fricking Migration?
Anon, I...
"MEN DIDN'T COME AND WATCH BECAUSE THEY ARE SPECIEST! THEY ARE SCARED OF A STRONG BROWN DUCK FAMILY MIGRATING ACROSS THE COUNTRY! "
>Kids Eat Free on Tuesdays.
The designs on Despicable Me are always so fun
Aren't avians like very unpopular except for a few? like the majority of these characters are literal whos
Penguins always sell well apparently. Illumination should've made a film about penguins and global warming.
could've even tweaked the penguin models from the Mario movie too.
If Migration actually turns out to be Illumination’s first genuinely great film and it bombs I’m going to be pissed.
It'd be the movie equivalent of the boy who cried wolf.
Can you really do a successful movie that centers around a group of the same animal, or has that ship already pass with modern cinema and moviegoers? Because I for one know that doing anything cow centric is a death sentence.
>I for one know that doing anything cow centric is a death sentence.
This is Otis erasure.
Wait, this movie is already out?
Why are all of these new original movies always getting zero advertisement but the fricking nostalgiaslop gets shilled every second you blink?
unlike D*sney, Illumination makes most of its money outside of the USA, the mousefrickers shouldn't be parading so soon.
did this have any advertising whatsoever?
I didn't even know this movie was a thing till I saw the catalog.
I've seen ads during football games. They… don't do a great job inciting hype. I wouldn't blame anyone for shrugging it off as "generic kiddie shit," and I'm someone who actually wants to watch it.
I haven't seen it anywhere outside of Cinemaphile
TOTAL AMERIMUTT DEATH
Tes
This is the first time I'm hearing of this movie