was that even very successful though? i tried watching it for a while until it just got boring.
they tricked me! there was a sex scene in the very first episode but then it never happened again!
You didn't miss out. It went absolutely fricking nowhere. Kind of a shame you missed the introduction and quick shuffling-off of the FtM troony character I guess.
It's a shame, because she's actually a very talented actor. I don't know why she only gets casted in shows that suck.
It had its moments where you could see it being ok, but over all it shit the bed not just in the finale ether. Mr. immortal killing himself to get out of awkward situations that’s funny. The concept of that was funny but the execution not there.
Didn't it only cost that much because they redid the CGI because Disney thought that not one wanted to watch a muscle mommy despite them being very in-vogue right now?
What does she even add to the Avengers? In her own series she was just incompetent, vapid, all about herself and alternated between being dick hungry and hating men. Not exactly the best fit for a team that’s out to save the world
Funny thing about that is that BECAUSE incels are such socially maladjusted frickheads, they have a lot of disposable time and income that doesn't get leeched off by life partners and children.
Oh yeah, they're insufferable twats lost in an internet version of reality that tells them their shitty personality isn't their fault, its the world that's fricking with them, but trying to fanbait them as a replacement to actual marketing or putting some effort in to your production is a losing game.
I hope it was worth it to make the show about sticking it to the people who hated it rather than making a good show
Let's be real, the writers said publicly they don't understand court dramas or like comics so it wasn't ever going to be good regardless of what they tried to do with it
>we don't know anything about legal dramas >or superheroes >or this fourth wall shit everyone keeps talking about >we don't know much about special effects budgets >or writing good characterization >hell, writing plots at all is way about the skill level of anyone on the staff >we don't even like this character or any of the characters attached to her >we're not even entirely sure who our target audience is... >but INCELS CAN GO FRICK THEMSELVES AMIRITE SISTERS?
It's a wonder this show got finished at all.
Walt Disney's daughter was sucked into a progressivism cult and she convinced all other execs that it was more important to make vapid statements than produce content people enjoy and makes money.
I will never understand why post 2016 film makers actually sabotage themselves by outright telling segments of the population not to watch their stuff.
Frick, I want their money, I want potential haters watching my shit, THEN deciding they hate it but by then they already bought tickets and I have their money. Frick em.
Yet no one in film/tv history ever had this plan, and never ever wanted to employ this plan. And it has failed spectacularly enough times now that it really should not be a plan any more,
Incels live rent-free in their heads which is funny because they're basically one of the least powerful or influential groups of people in the West.
It's not enough to just make something people would enjoy. It's not enough to make something you would enjoy. It's not enough to make something and just ignore that these people exist.
No, you have to use your position of privilege to burn hundreds of millions of dollars as a...frick I don't even know what to call it...therapy session?
Except when any movie fails they blame it on the vast hordes of incels that somehow managed to ruin it. If not for them, the perfect movie with absolutely no flaws at all would have easily made a billion.
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>Incels can turn a perfectly good movie into a bomb
Wow, sounds like a group you don't want to intentionally and unnecessarily antagonize, then.
>No, you have to use your position of privilege to burn hundreds of millions of dollars as a...frick I don't even know what to call it...therapy session?
"Plus, six hundred and eleven million dollars for my little therapeutic experiment? No one in their right mind would've ever funded it."
Incels to them is the idea that men are allowed to withhold their support from women who don't give them what they want. This is why they are compelled to make bad television and claim it is feminist. Making television for women that women would like is capitalism. Making bad television and forcing men to support it is praxis.
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This is what is going on. It is classic battle of the sexes warfare to them. Any knock against the male ego is just another loaded canon firing blindly into their self imposed fabled man-o-sphere. It is like how I'm seeing a sudden explosion of old ass localization drama from like six-eight years ago. GamerGate shit just cant seem to be dead and buried and only feminists ever dig that forced ass trash fire garbage up because they literally have NOTHING else to fall back on for their baseless grievances.
They talk about a boy's club; but they have their own hen house. This is the most blatant misogynistic post I've made.
Yet no one in film/tv history ever had this plan, and never ever wanted to employ this plan. And it has failed spectacularly enough times now that it really should not be a plan any more,
You know how fricking bonkers this method is?
It was used in South Park. Some poor deluded idiots watched the South Park episode where Cartman gets a theme park and was like "Yes, making them angry and saying it's not for them WILL suddenly boost sales! This is brilliant!"
That's more about artificial scarcity than anything, the theme park was popular not because Cartman made them angry but because only a few people can enter each day
Given the slop that came out the other end, I wouldn't order more either. That's not a statement about the star but the production as a whole. I'm sure a lot of people worked really hard and had no influence on what was ultimately shat out, but that's the business.
Tatiana Maslany is probably just pissed because, like every other new MCU headliner, she was sold on this idea of a steady paycheck for cameos and multiple movie deals, and no on is getting any because the whole affair is a dumpster fire they should have closed the lid on after End Game.
Some marketing genius figured that that would translate to some trickle views. It's like stupid prostitutes that get caught being buttholes, then immediately use that negative fame to plug their OnlyFans. And it works.
I thought about watching some of it before all the incel drama happened but then saw what they did to the villains and just ignored it completely. Heck the only Marvel product I've watched since Falcon and Winter Soldier shat the bed was the Guardians movie.
The real surprise is that anyone at Disney with the power to say so had the sense to actually turn this shit down like they should have in the first place.
The worst thing about She-Hulk show is that in theory it's such an easy thing to make a good series.
A likable protagonist + some humor + cool action scenes + fun villains. That's literally it.
But of course you had to give it to Rick and Morty b***h who used this as an opportunity to b***h about everyone and everything and doesn't even like superheroes.
>The worst thing about She-Hulk show is that in theory it's such an easy thing to make a good series.
A She-Hulk show honestly could've been amazing and hilarious. An episodic courtroom comedy where in one episode Jennifer gets Surtur out of a parking ticket, or proves that Loki couldn't have committed a crime because he was seen in episode three of his Disney+ series at the time and Sylvie can corroborate his story, or represent some minor character like Maya Hansen or Crossbones suing Kevin Feige for ruining/wasting them in their respective movies. And of course, outside of the courts, Jennifer would be a fun, confident character who actually enjoys being She-Hulk and doesn't complain about it the whole time and gets in all sorts of funny, fanservice-y, cheesecake-y situations, and yes, actual, proper fight scenes. Make the villain Titania or Abomination (get rid of his fricking hippie rehab bullshit; even if Blonsky legitimately turned over a new leaf, that shit was stupid) or The Leader, or hell, all three. Titania gets pissed at She-Hulk for some reason and so she contacts Abomination and Leader since they have some experience in that area... But no, of course the head writer of "Pin-up Girl Lawyer Hulk" has to be a fricking sexless troll who doesn't even know how courtroom scenes work (and apparently learning how just was not an option) and thinks "Did you know there are buttholes on the Internet sometimes?" is a compelling superhero story. And Marvel and Disney can't figure out why everyone's been hating on the MCU since Endgame. For frick's sake.
>when a forgotten 90s cartoon does a much better job than your 200 million series in an extremely successful live-action franchise
The crossover episode with Strange alone is better than anything Gao cooked up.
Shulk was explicitly not a legal show, because by the writers' own admission, they had no idea how to make one.
Most of the show is just Jen b***hing about petty shit, with maybe 2 minutes of courtroom time.
Not a superhero show and is only technically a comedy, so I have no idea what the frick that trash even was. All I know is that it was genuinely abysmal and painful to watch, whatever it was.
I think this show and every other flop made in the last decade are just proof that the "writers' guild" should have been completely purged. It's an institution that only mass produces "writers" who can't even write. They want a dozen people in a room so they can sit in a big, moronic circle and pass one shoddy idea around in a game of telephone until it's shat out into the production line. I could understand wanting different writers for different contexts, having both men and women plus any minority groups, but with how every single piece of media comes out the same, it's easy to tell that's not what's happening. There's no thought being put into it at all beyond a big round table where everyone has a voice but nobody is allowed to say anything new or original
Excepting Orphan Black, everything Tatiana touches fails
was that even very successful though? i tried watching it for a while until it just got boring.
they tricked me! there was a sex scene in the very first episode but then it never happened again!
it was canadian successful
You didn't miss out. It went absolutely fricking nowhere. Kind of a shame you missed the introduction and quick shuffling-off of the FtM troony character I guess.
It's a shame, because she's actually a very talented actor. I don't know why she only gets casted in shows that suck.
This show could have been marvels biggest hit if they even remotely appealed to the coomers.
Oh no anyway
I actually thought this show was one of the better post Endgame projects
No surprise coming from a Cinemaphilemblr user
It had its moments where you could see it being ok, but over all it shit the bed not just in the finale ether. Mr. immortal killing himself to get out of awkward situations that’s funny. The concept of that was funny but the execution not there.
>one of the better post Endgame projects
That bar is so low it's a fricking tripping hazard.
> it was a nine episode series that reportedly cost $200 million in order to render She-Hulk onscreen in pure CGI.
Shulkie spends most of her time green anyway, theyd have a cheaper and easier time just casting a tall woman than what they ended up with
But who would play normal Jen
I think they were planning to just have shulk be Gina Corano but they were blacklisting her at the time.
The casting was really sus, entire series was a frick you to people who actually liked the character.
It's a frick you to people with a modicum of taste.
>She-Hulk: Attorney At Law
What's next, Aquaman gets his own Sealab?
Didn't it only cost that much because they redid the CGI because Disney thought that not one wanted to watch a muscle mommy despite them being very in-vogue right now?
No, they just denied the muscular model early in production
They are adding her to the main cast of the Avengers, so they really are doubling down on her.
What does she even add to the Avengers? In her own series she was just incompetent, vapid, all about herself and alternated between being dick hungry and hating men. Not exactly the best fit for a team that’s out to save the world
WOMAN SISTERS! NOT LIKE THIS! MAN ARE LAUGHTING AGAIN!
Funny thing about that is that BECAUSE incels are such socially maladjusted frickheads, they have a lot of disposable time and income that doesn't get leeched off by life partners and children.
Oh yeah, they're insufferable twats lost in an internet version of reality that tells them their shitty personality isn't their fault, its the world that's fricking with them, but trying to fanbait them as a replacement to actual marketing or putting some effort in to your production is a losing game.
are you talking about the incels or the writers?
It is talking about itself. It's projecting hard.
I hope it was worth it to make the show about sticking it to the people who hated it rather than making a good show
Let's be real, the writers said publicly they don't understand court dramas or like comics so it wasn't ever going to be good regardless of what they tried to do with it
>we don't know anything about legal dramas
>or superheroes
>or this fourth wall shit everyone keeps talking about
>we don't know much about special effects budgets
>or writing good characterization
>hell, writing plots at all is way about the skill level of anyone on the staff
>we don't even like this character or any of the characters attached to her
>we're not even entirely sure who our target audience is...
>but INCELS CAN GO FRICK THEMSELVES AMIRITE SISTERS?
It's a wonder this show got finished at all.
Walt Disney's daughter was sucked into a progressivism cult and she convinced all other execs that it was more important to make vapid statements than produce content people enjoy and makes money.
I will never understand why post 2016 film makers actually sabotage themselves by outright telling segments of the population not to watch their stuff.
Frick, I want their money, I want potential haters watching my shit, THEN deciding they hate it but by then they already bought tickets and I have their money. Frick em.
they think they can bully people into watching it
>You're one of those incel chud Nazis, ARE YOU?
Yet no one in film/tv history ever had this plan, and never ever wanted to employ this plan. And it has failed spectacularly enough times now that it really should not be a plan any more,
Incels live rent-free in their heads which is funny because they're basically one of the least powerful or influential groups of people in the West.
It's not enough to just make something people would enjoy. It's not enough to make something you would enjoy. It's not enough to make something and just ignore that these people exist.
No, you have to use your position of privilege to burn hundreds of millions of dollars as a...frick I don't even know what to call it...therapy session?
Except when any movie fails they blame it on the vast hordes of incels that somehow managed to ruin it. If not for them, the perfect movie with absolutely no flaws at all would have easily made a billion.
>Incels can turn a perfectly good movie into a bomb
Wow, sounds like a group you don't want to intentionally and unnecessarily antagonize, then.
>No, you have to use your position of privilege to burn hundreds of millions of dollars as a...frick I don't even know what to call it...therapy session?
"Plus, six hundred and eleven million dollars for my little therapeutic experiment? No one in their right mind would've ever funded it."
Incels to them is the idea that men are allowed to withhold their support from women who don't give them what they want. This is why they are compelled to make bad television and claim it is feminist. Making television for women that women would like is capitalism. Making bad television and forcing men to support it is praxis.
This is what is going on. It is classic battle of the sexes warfare to them. Any knock against the male ego is just another loaded canon firing blindly into their self imposed fabled man-o-sphere. It is like how I'm seeing a sudden explosion of old ass localization drama from like six-eight years ago. GamerGate shit just cant seem to be dead and buried and only feminists ever dig that forced ass trash fire garbage up because they literally have NOTHING else to fall back on for their baseless grievances.
They talk about a boy's club; but they have their own hen house. This is the most blatant misogynistic post I've made.
You know how fricking bonkers this method is?
It was used in South Park. Some poor deluded idiots watched the South Park episode where Cartman gets a theme park and was like "Yes, making them angry and saying it's not for them WILL suddenly boost sales! This is brilliant!"
That's more about artificial scarcity than anything, the theme park was popular not because Cartman made them angry but because only a few people can enter each day
Name one show made for incels
Everything before they started making stuff for modern audiences, apparently
Every single movie and tv serie smade before 2013, and about 40% of them after that.
Except Soul Plane
Clerks
Million Dollar Extreme presents World Peace
Every cartoon made in the past 15 years. Unless autists are suddenly having sex, which I doubt.
Isn't that fake?
Marvel "Everyone I hate is literally Hitler and incels" Entertainment, folks.
Seething.
She-Hulk was literally made to appeal to coomers. Pissing off her core demographic is not a smart move.
oh sweet sweet vindication
they sure told them!
by getting SHIT CANNED!!
lol
lmao even
Given the slop that came out the other end, I wouldn't order more either. That's not a statement about the star but the production as a whole. I'm sure a lot of people worked really hard and had no influence on what was ultimately shat out, but that's the business.
Tatiana Maslany is probably just pissed because, like every other new MCU headliner, she was sold on this idea of a steady paycheck for cameos and multiple movie deals, and no on is getting any because the whole affair is a dumpster fire they should have closed the lid on after End Game.
The writers and producers deserve the blame which is why they always rely on actors to soak it up instead
How could the show that openly despised its audience go unwatched by its audience? Clearly, the answer is bigotry, right?
How could the show, that think doomwiener's a loser, put him as the compelling villain. The answer is to help ground the show right?
For some reason when it comes to female protagonists, MCU writers think that you need the villain to be a complete loser.
Because otherwise the male character will outshine the female character, as is usually the case.
That's why when there's a female lead, every male character, not just the antagonist, has to be a bumbling idiot.
But it had so much ragebait! And ragebait means people engaged with it which was free advertising, which translates to money... somehow!
The people who were on the She-Hulk hate train get their exposure from Youtubers so what's even the fricking point
Some marketing genius figured that that would translate to some trickle views. It's like stupid prostitutes that get caught being buttholes, then immediately use that negative fame to plug their OnlyFans. And it works.
So would the show have been successful had someone realized that spending 200 million dollarydoos on a 9 episode series is fricking moronic?
Chud bros?? we won!!!
IGGER
I thought about watching some of it before all the incel drama happened but then saw what they did to the villains and just ignored it completely. Heck the only Marvel product I've watched since Falcon and Winter Soldier shat the bed was the Guardians movie.
The real surprise is that anyone at Disney with the power to say so had the sense to actually turn this shit down like they should have in the first place.
They don't make TV shows, they make "event series"
The worst thing about She-Hulk show is that in theory it's such an easy thing to make a good series.
A likable protagonist + some humor + cool action scenes + fun villains. That's literally it.
But of course you had to give it to Rick and Morty b***h who used this as an opportunity to b***h about everyone and everything and doesn't even like superheroes.
>The worst thing about She-Hulk show is that in theory it's such an easy thing to make a good series.
A She-Hulk show honestly could've been amazing and hilarious. An episodic courtroom comedy where in one episode Jennifer gets Surtur out of a parking ticket, or proves that Loki couldn't have committed a crime because he was seen in episode three of his Disney+ series at the time and Sylvie can corroborate his story, or represent some minor character like Maya Hansen or Crossbones suing Kevin Feige for ruining/wasting them in their respective movies. And of course, outside of the courts, Jennifer would be a fun, confident character who actually enjoys being She-Hulk and doesn't complain about it the whole time and gets in all sorts of funny, fanservice-y, cheesecake-y situations, and yes, actual, proper fight scenes. Make the villain Titania or Abomination (get rid of his fricking hippie rehab bullshit; even if Blonsky legitimately turned over a new leaf, that shit was stupid) or The Leader, or hell, all three. Titania gets pissed at She-Hulk for some reason and so she contacts Abomination and Leader since they have some experience in that area... But no, of course the head writer of "Pin-up Girl Lawyer Hulk" has to be a fricking sexless troll who doesn't even know how courtroom scenes work (and apparently learning how just was not an option) and thinks "Did you know there are buttholes on the Internet sometimes?" is a compelling superhero story. And Marvel and Disney can't figure out why everyone's been hating on the MCU since Endgame. For frick's sake.
>when a forgotten 90s cartoon does a much better job than your 200 million series in an extremely successful live-action franchise
The crossover episode with Strange alone is better than anything Gao cooked up.
She-Hulk was without a doubt one of the most comic accurate pieces we’ve got from Marvel. I was really hoping for a season 2
They had muscle girl hot/badass appeal in the pocket, and they blew it on twitter tier charcter writing. Are westerners allergic to money?
>only show supporting the idea of legal dramedy cancelled
Should I start worrying about Born Again?
Shulk was explicitly not a legal show, because by the writers' own admission, they had no idea how to make one.
Most of the show is just Jen b***hing about petty shit, with maybe 2 minutes of courtroom time.
Not a superhero show and is only technically a comedy, so I have no idea what the frick that trash even was. All I know is that it was genuinely abysmal and painful to watch, whatever it was.
I think this show and every other flop made in the last decade are just proof that the "writers' guild" should have been completely purged. It's an institution that only mass produces "writers" who can't even write. They want a dozen people in a room so they can sit in a big, moronic circle and pass one shoddy idea around in a game of telephone until it's shat out into the production line. I could understand wanting different writers for different contexts, having both men and women plus any minority groups, but with how every single piece of media comes out the same, it's easy to tell that's not what's happening. There's no thought being put into it at all beyond a big round table where everyone has a voice but nobody is allowed to say anything new or original
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