I don’t trust Amazon, of all shitty productions, to do anything good. However, I do trust my boy Walton Goggins to not be in something shit. So I am conflicted.
I avoided Hateful Eight because I was of the opinion that Tarintino is a washed up cuck, and I regret not watching it earlier. It's very good outside a few cringe lines/scenes.
I don’t trust Amazon, of all shitty productions, to do anything good. However, I do trust my boy Walton Goggins to not be in something shit. So I am conflicted.
The Boys is good. Wheel of Time is good. Reacher is good. Jack Ryan is good. Lord of the Rings and Fallout are probably two of their "lol where did it go wrong" situations. In the case of fallout they focused on Bethesda trash instead of FO1&2.
The Boys is only good because its being done by proven Hollywood creators, and because it wasn't a well-known IP that cost a lot to buy the rights for, so they were left alone.
the boys WAS good, they dropped the ball incredibly hard with season 3 with the failure to portray soldier boy as a greater evil. all they had to do was make him feel dangerous and that shitty "e's me wife's son" scene might've actually worked
Seasonal villains are fine if they're actually advancing the story, like killing Becca and using the israelite playing a nazi to push the kid toward homeland is fine. the real issue came from the just complete disregard for the characters supposedly being fugitives
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, they take up space actual characters could use.
3 months ago
Anonymous
true, but I don't care about any of those characters. I only care about seeing people die in silly and wacky ways
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ok when are you guys starting counting comic book movies? you're just picking random movies that were good.
Constantine is based off of the hellblazer run and Vendetta is based off of a comic by the homie who wrote the watchmen comic
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're a dumb homosexual then, confirmed by you falling for that bait post.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I was a fan of the comics, it's not like I expected the show to have some sort of deep meaning or tell a good story. it's supposed to be some bullshit about watching people die in ridiculous ways and shitting on superheroes
i'm aware. i wasn't saying they were all bad, they had a lot of rough ones as well. this conversation was about the start of them, not random movies you liked
ohh if we're going all the way back, the 40's shadow was a decent start. I assumed you were talking about the start of modern capeshit
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sloplovers like you are going to die alone.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>waaaaaaaaaa, you can't enjoy making fun of slop with friends
>comic book movies started off strong
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ohh if we're going all the way back, the 40's shadow was a decent start. I assumed you were talking about the start of modern capeshit
when does that start do you think? i don't even know, i feel like xmen maybe kicked it off, and then stuff didn't really land until spider-man?
modern would be probably be ~'90 to now? the old batman films +robocop come to mind for where we are now
3 months ago
Anonymous
>modern would be probably be ~'90 to now? the old batman films +robocop come to mind for where we are now
then yeah i suppose those were good. as fun as the adam west batman is, i wonder how much damage that did in terms of adaption of anything serious
3 months ago
Anonymous
i'm aware. i wasn't saying they were all bad, they had a lot of rough ones as well. this conversation was about the start of them, not random movies you liked
They didn’t even make soldier boy dislikeable in any way. Most they did was make him symbolic of le evil conservatives and he beat a Black person up that talked back at him
But I’m sorry that doesn’t make him a greater evil than Homelander
ffs goggins is shit anyways, fricking hell Cinemaphile sucks goggins' dick like leddit constantly guzzles keanu reeves' dick
get some fricking taste anon damn
na, he just isn't that great and it's frickin moronic everybody goes nuts over him like he's some laurence olivier of modern tv or movies, he just plays himself in every fricking thing the same way
from the shield to sons of anarchy to justified to whatever the frick else
he's not gonna frick you anon lol
It is kinda freightening how formulatic it became. And just like the 2000s with heavy CGI usage, it is mostly a good indicator that this isnt a good show.
This reeks of quirky, quippy Bethesda bullshit. They should have just adapted Fallout 1 and made it dark and bleak. It was all right there for them but they fricked it up.
Trailer seemed alright, better than what I was expecting, especially after seeing all the culture war gays crying about it. That being said I still think it's going to be a disappointment, and the Power Armor looks pretty silly. Plus that scene of dudes with guns running up into melee range with power armor looked really poorly choreographed.
>Autistic nitpicking over 3 words
Your entire post is filler. That being said, you're an idiot who thinks a simple phrase is "tryhard", so it's par for the course.
>Calling other people ESLs when you think a simple three word phrase is try hard
Sorry those words make the hamster wheel in your head stop spinning. That being said, you brought this on yourself by deciding to pick silly fights with anonymous posters over the most pedantic shit imaginable.
If the protag is anything like the game ones, they're just going to be a walking one man army by the end. You've got a pool sized hole you need to fill up with "believable". Making the MC male is like handing you a gallon jug of "believable" it really doesn't make a difference. I would prefer them to be male, but I'm not going to pretend that a lot of the pushback isn't coming from incels with some serious woman hatred.
but you agree they need to bridge the gap between fantastical overpowered game protagonists and a realistic tv series if it's not some capeshit, right? making the protagonist a male is the logical decision if logic is any part of your process
> lol have you homosexuals even played fallout ? It was woke there were lots of blacks and women. In new Vegas Veronica was a lesbian
Don’t care, didn’t ask. I don’t like them. Even if you make a movie about the Zulu, if you put Black folk in it, I will not be seeing it.
nah you first homosexual. nobody but homosexuals played fallout 1 and 2. real homies were playing baldurs gate, planescape, diablo, watcraft, red alert, aoe, etc. kys my man
This isn't even about the first games. It's about Todd Howard dick sucking and retconning everything non-bethesda out of existence and acting like he invented Fallout.
It's funny how FO3 used to be shit on for the whole "brown and gloom" filter that was so common of games in the late 2000s / early 2010s. Now the pendulum has shifted back and people miss it.
Equally hilarious is the "vivid wasteland" mod for FO3 has gone from being the top mod on Nexus to barely talked about these days all in the space of about 5 years
reshades fell off coz of hdr becoming commonplace not because of some nostalgia for brown and gloom.
cinematic games get hdr right trivially nowadays, don't need wet road reshades to get the look anymore
I was a fan of the comics, it's not like I expected the show to have some sort of deep meaning or tell a good story. it's supposed to be some bullshit about watching people die in ridiculous ways and shitting on superheroes
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ohh if we're going all the way back, the 40's shadow was a decent start. I assumed you were talking about the start of modern capeshit
ohh if we're going all the way back, the 40's shadow was a decent start. I assumed you were talking about the start of modern capeshit
when does that start do you think? i don't even know, i feel like xmen maybe kicked it off, and then stuff didn't really land until spider-man?
3 months ago
Anonymous
God damn you're coping hard aren't you
Comic book "trend" (which I think is what you meant) started in the late nineties and culminated into the MCU around mid noughties
now frick of
3 months ago
Anonymous
i'm not coping, i was just asking what you meant when you said they started strong, because i was thinking about some shit from the 80s which seems like when they started experimenting with it, no need to get angry and start yelling
The thing that drives me demented about this is the fact that, 1/2/3/NV are the games that made this franchise what it is. Yet 4 is the style that they're now running with for this show and everything else moving forward.
Also what's pathetic about this an indeed all other major franchises is the fact that now the rules and characters of the world is made we must have Brotherhood of steel. The dude who came up with brotherhood of steel was probably some guy who thought they were cool and created them in a week. Why can we not do something different in the universe but keep some things the same.
I mean to say. When a franchise hits any level of popularity the rules, characters, world is now frozen. Fallout won't have any more innovation or good creativity becuase the writers are tards and are also constrained by the world's popularity.
Brotherhood of Steel fatigue is real. Clumping around in power armour is fricking boring, the faction is boring, it's all boring. Christ, give me Republic of Dave, Shady Sands, Boomers, anything over more BoS any day of the week
>Republic of Dave >Boomers
Anon, we both know they'd just go overboard and turn those "factions" (lets be honest, the Republic of Dave is a complete joke with no real staying power) into turbo quipping comedic relief. They're both already quirky moron groups. There's nothing wrong with the Brotherhood, the problem is they decided to adapt the expansionist airship riding crusaders with no subtlety version, instead of the secretive isolationist group they were shown to be in 1 / NV (Didn't finish 2). Honestly, the good guy Lyons FO3 version of them is more fitting if they're going to go through with the whole out and in the open attitude, since the FO4 version retain the techno-hoarding buttholes vibes, but now they're just slapping a giant target on their backs since they're so blatant about it.
you can already tell by the poster the tone is going to be some rick and morty insincere ironic bullshit instead of playing the setting straight. i am so fricking tired
>no supermutants cuz they are icky >no slavery cuz icky >no vampires/canibals/gangs raping and selling women icky
only pretty flowers shooting hecking badguys bandits motherfrickers heck yeah drinking some nuka cola and goin on adnventured with mr blackman and mr ghoul (So Funny and random!) pipboy? Scratch that it's pipgirl now.
they missed the tone completely. Fallout had over the top extreme sadism and gore and slavery as core tenets of the series even from the beginning. Mutants dragging people into vaults and dunking them into FEV turning them into fricking pic rel. Nightmarish shit, it should have a baseline level of looking and feeling "dark" and bleak while still having black humor. This looks more like superhero slop
>no supermutants cuz they are icky >no slavery cuz icky >no vampires/canibals/gangs raping and selling women icky
only pretty flowers shooting hecking badguys bandits motherfrickers heck yeah drinking some nuka cola and goin on adnventured with mr blackman and mr ghoul (So Funny and random!) pipboy? Scratch that it's pipgirl now.
We don't know if Super Mutants are out and the trailer shows a Mr. Handy drugging the main character to try and harvest her organs. I wouldn't be surprised if it has been reprogrammed by a raider group or something. Nothing else confirms there won't be cannibalism, slavery, gore, etc... Either. The show probably will be shit, but you're jumping to conclusions here.
>villain is just a machine, not actually an evil person with malicious intent >it fails before actually harming the MC
it's tame as frick, you're a homosexual
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The robot can't be the tool of a cannibal raider gang >Why isn't the main character getting killed off in the reveal trailer?
Okay
fallout has literally always had some silliness to it. even the first two. obviously this is going to draw more from the Bethesda era, which is understandable, and it seems like that. regardless, we've had decades of brooding and dark zombie apocalypses enough that i don't think people are going to want to sit through something totally bleak. really depends on how front loaded lighter elements are. looks fairly interesting. droid stealing organs and stuff. i'm sure they'll have slaves and sadistic raiders
i avoided 4 because someone said you get the powersuit right away which just made me think the whole game was probably designed stupidly. was it that different in terms of the world and story?
3 months ago
Anonymous
idk because you did indeed get power armor and a minigun in the first 20 minutes. Also I couldn't stand the voice protag and shut it off. Have maybe 4 hours in that game total, meanwhile over 500 in new vegas/3 combined
3 months ago
Anonymous
its free on playstation extra so i almost downloaded it this week to try, but then i remembered there's base building which leads me to believe there's crafting which i no longer want to engage with in video games
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh man, me too
It's just tiresome at this point
3 months ago
Anonymous
it's like oblivion vs. morrowind, or skyrim vs. oblivion; a "streamlined", dumbed-down version of the previous game, made to appeal to a wider, stupider audience
you play a voiced protagonist, with a canonical name, and a canonical backstory
the dialogue choices are ALWAYS these 4: yes, alternative yes, snarky comment (yes), or no (but still yes)
it's still an RPG, I suppose, as long as you want to play the role of either Nate the Soldier, or his wife Nora the Lawyer
the main quest is functional if not particularly noteworthy - you probably won't care to play it a second time - the references to periods of American history are present, but are more on the nose than ever before; Salem witch trials, War of Independence, Underground Railroad, Chicago gangsters
has all the usual obligatory media references
after being initially disappointed, I returned once there were mods and had some fun with it
it's made infinitely more playable by the mod which allows the player to skip the intro and start with a wider range of backstories, the one which fixes the dialogue system, and the one that makes the BoS arrive whether you do the main quest or not
it's like any other Bethesda game: it lives or dies based on whether you can turn it into what you want it to be with enough mods
it admittedly has some cool elements, the gunplay is much better than the previous games, and the settlement system is flawed but genuinely lots of fun; you can build a town, a faction base, just a house for yourself, a farm, a chem factory - lots of opportunities to play different characters
downside of the settlement system is that they used it as an excuse to have only one actual town, a smaller town, and a trading post which doesn't even exist in a separate worldspace, which leaves the world feeling a little empty
if you've got lots of imagination and hundreds of mods, give it a go
just don't expect the moral ambiguity, adult themes, clever writing, or political intrigue of new vegas
3 months ago
Anonymous
>the gunplay is much better than the previous games
I disagree. Like, vanilla to vanilla, Fo4 shoots better, but new Vegas has guns that look and sound like guns, with much better animations.
With a few mods the FNV gunplay is catastrophically better than 4's
maybe if i'm bored. i'm not really a big fallout fan in the first place though i've played 1 through to vegas. goggins character looks cool though. i really don't care if its good or not
Was the brotherhood really pushed entirely out of the West Coast? They had a presence there in 2, as well as NV. It's not like NCR could really keep tabs on all their chapters hiding away in prewar bunkers. It's just dumb they're doing the whole FO4 big ass airship version.
If I recall correctly they were completely expelled from NCR land, the BoS you meet in NV was cut off from the other west coast chapters because they scattered after the war with the NCR.
Looking at the trailer, it seems like the BoS arrived in California with the Prydwen, implying they came from the east coast chapter (that appears in FO3 and 4), which is even more gay and moronic.
>hmm by my calculations the mothershjp alpha's defensive units are not in the right canonical formation to beat the trade empire radiation drones
Hahaha what a DORK!
Wasn't there a schism in Tactics? One remained where they are and stayed techno hoarders no mutants allowed, the other took off in airships and were a bit more relaxed about who could serve (convenient way to allow ghouls and super mutants into your squad roster)
>Synths
It was the shittiest quest in FO3
Why did they have to make an entire game based around that quest? Blade Runner has no place in 50s like sci-fi.
Also Blade Runner is overrated and 2049 is only remembered for the breasts and the memes, it was objectively a shitty movie. Depression is disease only homosexuals catch.
>the reason is Bethesda Doesn't Understand Fallout™
Bethesda cannot write for shit.
Fo3 story contradicts itself and the writers forgot you could send your companion to do it. The DLC fixed that but the game calls you a homosexual for not killing yourself, fricking lol.
>newbie didn't play Fallout, fallout 2, or New Vega >newbie never read The Fallout Bible >newbie thinks 3, 4, and 76 are canonical events
just say you're a fricking woman who doesn't play video games. It's more believable than you being some clueless Black personhomosexual zoomer.
Here I can fix it for you guys and maintian Bethesda's garbage direction >Same timeline >Same location >Walton Ghoulins is vault overseer >He gets thrown out of the vault for some reason while the nukes are hitting >A lot of time passes >Ghoulins who is now a completely deranged ghoul cowboy comes back to the vault with a bunch of ghoul mercenaries + ex ncr deserters and robs it for mcguffin needed to keep vault operational. He kills the main dwellers best friend / partner with a le epic revolver ocelot trickshot >Main dweller leaves the vault with 3 dwellers and attempts to track down walton ghoulins in *xyz location* >Dweller and party move towards the target location. At least twice Walton Ghoulins appears and kills one of the party members >NCR is nuked due to BOS and NCR war + new vegas >The brotherhood help the dwellers. They catch up to Ghoulins. Ghoulins has some sort of field that neutralizes electronics and energy weapons, so the vault dweller faces them in a 1v1 western style duel. >The brotherhood help the dwellers get home, then brutally murder all the dwellers and ransack the vault for technology >I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire starts playing
Fair point. It's Amazon, there's gotta be some ESG shit in there to keep the Blackrock assassins away from Bezos.
If the female lead ends up hooking up with MarySueBlack personhood of Steal I'll drop the show. I hope she hooks up with the Ghoul or no one. Though she's probably lesbian because reasons.
I'll check it because my family has Prime anyway and the production values doesn't seem like shit, but I really doubt it's decent. Even if by some miracle it isn't crappy, the lorerape will be too much for me
I expect some nice scenes and nods to the franchise, with a shit overall story. Do we know in what year the series plays? Like is it after the events of New Vegas and 4?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It seems as though it's set after NV, because both Shady Sands and the Boneyard seem to have gone through another apocalypse
3 months ago
Anonymous
It seems as though it's set after NV, because both Shady Sands and the Boneyard seem to have gone through another apocalypse
2296.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Then I'll need a very solid explanation for why this vault has been left alone by the NCR for so long.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The explanation will be the NCR fell apart to make room for the BOS shoehorning that's omnipresent now. The show takes place in California which is almost entirely NCR territory. The trailer shows Shady Sands, the capital city, as a crater and the NCR military as barely more than ragtag raiders in the newest trailer.
3 months ago
Anonymous
New Vegas made the NCR too big
3 months ago
Anonymous
So no nation the size of a state could form after 200 years?
3 months ago
Anonymous
No dude, stop being moronic.
2 had several scenarios and places that could prosper without the NCR, where the factions didn't even figure into their ending, but New Vegas not only canonized all the positive NCR endings but it also implied or stated they got under the NCR, places like New Arroyo or Modoc.
They even wanted to nuke out the Shi
3 months ago
Anonymous
How is that moronic? You do realize how long 200 years is right? Is the Legion equally as bad for being the entirety of Arizona as well? What would be a better scenario?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>How is that moronic?
You're making assumptions based off nothing >Is the Legion equally as bad for being the entirety of Arizona as well?
Kinda? I thiught it was too much territory. Arizona would've been fine, but it's much of the Utah and Colorado, and all New Mexico too.
But the real thing that makes the NCR different is that we saw these other factions that could've existed without the NCR just get swalled
Arroyo is definitely the worse. Nothing in it's ending implied joining the NCR
they have radios and gas-powered vehicles, they can conquer everything that isn't able to militarily resist them. which nothing will be able to once they start growing to include more people, who they can then bring to bear anywhere on their border instantly with their trucks or trains or aircraft or whatever it is they're using
Arroyo had the Chosen One and the Shi far outpaced technologically
3 months ago
Anonymous
You sound like you just want to argue for the sake of it. They have technological and manpower advantage over their neighbors so why wouldn't they get them to join, either through diplomacy or by force? Are you sure you're not confusing Arroyo with Navarro, the Enclave base taken by the NCR? Arroyo got a GECK and some Vault 13 survivors, but wouldn't be able to match the NCR in such a short amount of time.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You sound like you just want to argue for the sake of it.
You were the one who started arguing things >They have technological and manpower advantage over their neighbors so why wouldn't they get them to join, either through diplomacy or by force?
Because that's not how things work. Switzerland has been more or less independent since what, the HRE? Why hasn't it been gobbled up ny France or Germany or a hypothetical Italy that doesn't automatically loses every war? There's geographical considerations, there's the question of viability, history shows that it's not just one nation eating away smaller ones all the time.
And again, the NCR only has that advantage because the Chosen One gave it to then and New Vegas decided he apparently that he did
The NCR being this humongous power house is due to New Vegas >Arroyo got a GECK and some Vault 13 survivors
And a Chosen One, aka the reason NCR can be a powerful nation and not completely bodied by the Enclave
3 months ago
Anonymous
No. I posted a map, and you proceeded to sperg. >The Swiss
That may be the case in a civilized world, but Rome and the Mongolians beg to differ about conquering neighbors. Unless the Chosen One is literal Superman, they wouldn't be able to stop the NCR knocking on their door, even with your head-canon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No. I posted a map, and you proceeded to sperg.
If a simple statement is a sperg out to you maybe you should go back to plebbit since divergent opinions offend you so >That may be the case in a civilized world
but Rome and the Mongolians beg to differ about conquering neighbors.
That doesn't make any sense.
Rome was civilized. So were the Mongols for that matter.
Both Empires had neighbors that they didn't conquer
And also, the factions of fallout are closer to modern era nations than medieval or classical ones >Unless the Chosen One is literal Superman, they wouldn't be able to stop the NCR knocking on their door
Why not? He stopped the far more formidable Enclave
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're still sperging.
How does that not make sense? Just because you're stuck on Switzerland? Yes both were civilized, but they also conquered their neighbors in similar fashion while others were conquered with diplomacy and forced to pay tribute or die. Them ceasing expansion in one direction or another and forming treaties doesn't negate that they conquered their neighbors. >closer to modern era nations
Caesar's Legion is modeled after and functions similarly to Rome. Most civilizations outside the NCR are tribal. >why not?
Again, head-canon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You're still sperging.
Sounds like you're mad >How does that not make sense? Just because you're stuck on Switzerland?
Are being stupid on purpose? I can give you other examples of smaller nation that weren't gobbled up by larger neighbors, Switzerland was just one >Yes both were civilized
Then you did your statement implied they weren't? >Them ceasing expansion in one direction or another and forming treaties doesn't negate that they conquered their neighbors
It negates that conquering neighbors is all they did. They coexisted with other nations too. >Caesar's Legion is modeled after and functions similarly to Rome.
It doesn't function anything at all like Rome, something Caesar himself acknowledges. Play the games. >Most civilizations outside the NCR are tribal
Modoc wasn't. Vault City wasn't. Redding, New Reno, New Arroyo, the Den.. >Again, head-canon. >no response
Okay, then
3 months ago
Anonymous
The sperging continues.
You present poor arguments. Your logic boils down to Switzerland and The Chosen One. You haven't presented an actual reason why the NCR got too large or why cities wouldn't join them. When pressed about it you just say Chosen One, which would rely on your head-canon which isn't based on anything other than your preference.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The sperging continues.
You sound very mad >You present poor arguments.
Actually I present very solid ones, despite your whining. You on the other hand doesn't even seem to know the meaning of the word civilization or to have played any of the Fallout games of have any significant knowledge of history, hence your embarrassing statement about the Legion functioning "similarly" to Rome. >Your logic boils down to Switzerland and The Chosen One.
Nope, neither of those are even central to my point, which you seem to constantly misunderstand.
My point was that New Vegas made the NCR too big by both canonizing every ending in which it succeeded and by also making it so other settlements are also absorbed by the republic even if their ending never even gave that as a possibility
Your fundamental misunderstanding of this simple fact is what has you trapped, because it's simply undeniable that an NCR triumph wasn't a canonical ending for 2 (unlike New Arroyo, which it obligatorily is) but a possibility, one that New Vegas not only ran with but also expanded further.
Switzerland was used as an example of simple rebuttal of your nonsensical claim that it's an inevitability that bigger nations conquer larger ones, which, due to your historical illiteracy, you seem to think it's the only one I can cite. Again, nonsense. San Marino has stood independent for hundreds of years. Portugal was never conquered by Spain, remaining an independent realm even during the Iberian Union. And so on. >You haven't presented an actual reason why the NCR got too large or why cities wouldn't join then
Because again, that wasn't my point. Someone that played Fallout 2 would've undertood that what I said relates to your choices in the game and how it affects the game's endings
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3 months ago
Anonymous
[...] >When pressed about it you just say Chosen One, which would rely on your head-canon which isn't based on anything other than your preference.
Again, basic game ignorance
The Chosen One is the reason the NCR can expand as high as it can; the chose on is also the reason the Enclave (which the NCR had no hope of defeating alone) is brought down. With these inarguable facts laid before you, answer me why wouldn't the Chosen One be able to stop the NCR?
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>you mad bro >writes memoir
Interesting.
It was a canonical ending, hence why it is canon. Your historical examples are irrelevant because at one point they were conquered by one society or another. Your other points are irrelevant prattle and assumptions. The core of your argument is basically main character syndrome.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>you mad bro
You are, and I really don't understand why
memoir
I'm sorry reading is such a daunting task for you >It was a canonical ending
But it wasn't. There's no mention of Arroyo joining the NCR in any of its endings >Your historical examples are irrelevant because at one point they were conquered by one society or another.
San Marino never was and we could get into Portuguese history, but your total lack of historical knowledge would make it futile. Please read a history book once in a while >Your other points are irrelevant prattle and assumptions.
I'm sorry you're too illiterate to comprehend them. If it was loss I'd draw them in crayon so you could maybe understand it >The core of your argument is basically main character syndrome.
It's not. But let me ask another question which you will dodge. What would've happened to the NCR without the main protagonists of the Fallout games?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Just because you insist on something doesn't make it true. Reading isn't a daunting task. You're clearly a bit heated, as it's untoward for a man to type like an emotional woman. As for your question, Shady Sands most likely would have been wiped out by the Master and his supermutants unless the BOS decided to step in due to lack of manpower and resources. This would also carry over for the Enclave should they survive the Master. Though the NCR proper may not come to exist at all if Tandi is never rescued from the Khans.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Reading isn't a daunting task
It clearly is for (You). > clearly a bit heated
Please don't project unto me how mad you are. It's unbecoming.
And please refrain from responding until you have actually played the Fallout games and actually studied at least a bit of history >Though the NCR proper may not come to exist at all if Tandi is never rescued from the Khans.
Main character syndrome, I see
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The sperging continues.
You sound very mad >You present poor arguments.
Actually I present very solid ones, despite your whining. You on the other hand doesn't even seem to know the meaning of the word civilization or to have played any of the Fallout games of have any significant knowledge of history, hence your embarrassing statement about the Legion functioning "similarly" to Rome. >Your logic boils down to Switzerland and The Chosen One.
Nope, neither of those are even central to my point, which you seem to constantly misunderstand.
My point was that New Vegas made the NCR too big by both canonizing every ending in which it succeeded and by also making it so other settlements are also absorbed by the republic even if their ending never even gave that as a possibility
Your fundamental misunderstanding of this simple fact is what has you trapped, because it's simply undeniable that an NCR triumph wasn't a canonical ending for 2 (unlike New Arroyo, which it obligatorily is) but a possibility, one that New Vegas not only ran with but also expanded further.
Switzerland was used as an example of simple rebuttal of your nonsensical claim that it's an inevitability that bigger nations conquer larger ones, which, due to your historical illiteracy, you seem to think it's the only one I can cite. Again, nonsense. San Marino has stood independent for hundreds of years. Portugal was never conquered by Spain, remaining an independent realm even during the Iberian Union. And so on. >You haven't presented an actual reason why the NCR got too large or why cities wouldn't join then
Because again, that wasn't my point. Someone that played Fallout 2 would've undertood that what I said relates to your choices in the game and how it affects the game's endings
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>When pressed about it you just say Chosen One, which would rely on your head-canon which isn't based on anything other than your preference.
Again, basic game ignorance
The Chosen One is the reason the NCR can expand as high as it can; the chose on is also the reason the Enclave (which the NCR had no hope of defeating alone) is brought down. With these inarguable facts laid before you, answer me why wouldn't the Chosen One be able to stop the NCR?
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3 months ago
Anonymous
The Mojave. Outer Vegas. Whoever wrote that bullshit about everything outside the NCR being tribals, is a woman, or a paid shill.
Stop replying to them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I guess I will, he keeps shifting points and ignoring his previous stupid statements
It's just that I like to discuss the NCR and how New Vegas was the game that made it a superpower, when it even in 2's best outcomes for it, it didn't get this big
It's interesting both because a less powerful NCR is probably more consistent with Interplay's original Fallout 3 idea and how it speaks something of the alleged lack of communication between Avellone and Sawyer while making NV.
It's weird to me that Lonesome Road is basically an entire Avellone rant about the NCR becoming too powerful when it was NV, not 2, that made the faction that way
3 months ago
Anonymous
The New California Republican Army are forced out of Nevada, and most especially New Vegas after the events of the 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam. Robert House and The Courier create a temporary alliance with the NCR, creating "The New Independent Economic zone of Las Vegas".
Without House and his army of Securitrons, without The Courier, Caesar would've steamrolled The NCR at Hoover Dam. Superior numbers, superior training. If not The Legion, The Brotherhood would've wiped out the entire "nation" in a few months.
Frick the NCR. And it's shill fanboys.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing you wrote has any bearing to what I said
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes it does. I was actually reinforcing your point that The NCR isn't shit. New Vegas made them into Superman, when in reality, they're a corrupt political failure on the verge of collapse by the end of Fallout 2.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>they're a corrupt political failure on the verge of collapse by the end of Fallout 2.
But by they're rising on 2 and only really corrupt with Frank Carlson in charge. What bothered me about NV is that while the NCR was obviously supposed to be a powerful nation, since been in their worse ending their expansion is merely "slowed down" and they figure into many other factions endings, it's weird that NV canonized ALL the NCR positive endings
3 months ago
Anonymous
they have radios and gas-powered vehicles, they can conquer everything that isn't able to militarily resist them. which nothing will be able to once they start growing to include more people, who they can then bring to bear anywhere on their border instantly with their trucks or trains or aircraft or whatever it is they're using
3 months ago
Anonymous
The NCR collapse after New Vegas. Robert House and The Courier push them out of Nevada completely. Vegas belongs to Robert House, and Robert House only. Nobody gives a frick about The Mojave, it's independent territory completely hostile to the New California Republic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Weird. Why did Necropolis move?
3 months ago
Anonymous
1's map is less accurate to the real world than 2's I think.
Necrophobic is easy to find because it's supposed to be Bakersfield
3 months ago
Anonymous
Man, Fo3 seems positively quaint with what Bethesda has been doing with the lore
Shit, to think Tactics was once seen as bad handling of it
>"hey smoothskin, try these- these used to be called sopapillas. before the bombs fell, mi abuelita and i used to make them all the time. i miss her, mi abuelita and miho coco... you're alright, for a gringo."
Eh, I'm looking forward to it. Like everything else it stands or falls with the writing. Could be dogshit, could be surprisingly good or at least ok.
I will watch the first episode on the russian streaming site and all of you morons will too, don't pretend you won't.
Dogshit. Fallout 4 style is horrible and I hate everything about this. LA will literally only make sense to be such a shithole if the Boneyards got nuked by the courier at the end of Lonesome Road…meaning destroy the NCR is canon lol. Not like thats a bad thing but I have my doubts theyre actually going to make that canon, just make the NCR more in line with Bethesda shantytown fallout.
The enclave turn out to be starship troopers tier and become the fan favorites of the show, the writers have to destroy the show because the enclave plot is more interesting.
I honestly wouldn’t give a frick about the main characters’ gender or race normally. I certainly didn’t ten years ago. It’s just that in the last decade female or black leads became more and more an indicator that the show/movie will be about “men bad”/“white bad”, and it already reached 100% certainty a couple of years ago.
>here is some imagery you should recognize >now, please watch our show that we will shoot in a desert or someplace cheap >no, nothing will be real, it's all digital >btw, what do you think of Halorian?
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE PROTAGONIST ITS THE CURRENT YEAR!!!!
Will these people ever do a white man as a protagonist? Like I mean, left to their own devices and given infinite time, would they ever make a white man a protagonist.
One that isn’t just a training wheel to the female protagonist like in Barbie or ROP
you literally cant get scripts greenlighted no matter how good they are if they dont fit the right race and gender profiles. Admitted by the show biz managers themselves
Everyone has an agenda. Even you.
But no, not really. I watch a ton of independent film, and used to watch a LOT of fan made webseries, like Fallout: Red Star. 99% of it is just people who work and live outside the Hollywood system. No one pays attention to bible thumping idiots or homosexuals from The East Bay making student films about lesbian wheat farmers.
You could if you were a company headed by someone not castrated. These people don’t have as much grip on the companies as it seems, the companies could get rid of them but they don’t because they still live in the delusion that it makes more money by "appealing to more groups", when eventually they will realize that >hey wait a minute why are we alienating our core audience that is 90% white men? Maybe we don’t have to appeal to everyone
You seem to be under the impression that western entertainment companies today are still trying to appeal to the widest possible audience. The only audience that matters for them right now is Larry Fink. They hire thousands of inexperienced women and minorities as writers, just to raise their ESG score. And they try to hire the cheapest there is, so they end up hiring those who do it for the opportunity to spread “the message”, rather than for money. Then these ideologues fill every story with “white man bad” dialogues and story lines, and there’s no one who dares to reject these, because everyone’s afraid of being labeled racist/misogynist.
This shit won’t stop as long as ESG score is a thing.
Yeah, the narrative that pozzing is an attempt to appeal to everyone has clearly been proven bullshit. Woke entertainment consistently fail and the ones that succeed are almost there invariably supported by something else like a strong brand name
It's not means to be good and it's not meant to be popular, it's propaganda meant to manufacture consent
plus women are just the more subjective sex
so they write what they know - their life experiences - which is a combination of being a vapid cumdumpster (full of bitterness for being such) and strolling through life on the shoulders of others
That power armor seems impossible to wear
The hands and feet are robotic extensions, but yea the artist doing the poster goofed a bit.
I don’t trust Amazon, of all shitty productions, to do anything good. However, I do trust my boy Walton Goggins to not be in something shit. So I am conflicted.
>I do trust my boy Walton Goggins to not be in something shit
>that pic
Hateful Eight is kino and I’m tired of pretending like it’s not
Honestly it's ok, but only because of Goggins.
I avoided Hateful Eight because I was of the opinion that Tarintino is a washed up cuck, and I regret not watching it earlier. It's very good outside a few cringe lines/scenes.
>fatman
Fatman was fun. Frick off.
The Boys is good. Wheel of Time is good. Reacher is good. Jack Ryan is good. Lord of the Rings and Fallout are probably two of their "lol where did it go wrong" situations. In the case of fallout they focused on Bethesda trash instead of FO1&2.
>wheel of time
>good
pffffhahahahahahaha
>It's Le feminist lotr
And? I like seeing big Indian milkers and women beating each other.
The Boys is only good because its being done by proven Hollywood creators, and because it wasn't a well-known IP that cost a lot to buy the rights for, so they were left alone.
the boys WAS good, they dropped the ball incredibly hard with season 3 with the failure to portray soldier boy as a greater evil. all they had to do was make him feel dangerous and that shitty "e's me wife's son" scene might've actually worked
It went to shit in season 2, seasonal villains were a bad idea.
Seasonal villains are fine if they're actually advancing the story, like killing Becca and using the israelite playing a nazi to push the kid toward homeland is fine. the real issue came from the just complete disregard for the characters supposedly being fugitives
Nah, they take up space actual characters could use.
true, but I don't care about any of those characters. I only care about seeing people die in silly and wacky ways
Constantine is based off of the hellblazer run and Vendetta is based off of a comic by the homie who wrote the watchmen comic
You're a dumb homosexual then, confirmed by you falling for that bait post.
I was a fan of the comics, it's not like I expected the show to have some sort of deep meaning or tell a good story. it's supposed to be some bullshit about watching people die in ridiculous ways and shitting on superheroes
ohh if we're going all the way back, the 40's shadow was a decent start. I assumed you were talking about the start of modern capeshit
Sloplovers like you are going to die alone.
>waaaaaaaaaa, you can't enjoy making fun of slop with friends
modern would be probably be ~'90 to now? the old batman films +robocop come to mind for where we are now
>modern would be probably be ~'90 to now? the old batman films +robocop come to mind for where we are now
then yeah i suppose those were good. as fun as the adam west batman is, i wonder how much damage that did in terms of adaption of anything serious
i'm aware. i wasn't saying they were all bad, they had a lot of rough ones as well. this conversation was about the start of them, not random movies you liked
They didn’t even make soldier boy dislikeable in any way. Most they did was make him symbolic of le evil conservatives and he beat a Black person up that talked back at him
But I’m sorry that doesn’t make him a greater evil than Homelander
>Wheel of Time is good.
have a nice day.
>The Boys is good
lol
>Wheel of Time is good
LMAO
>Reacher is good
It's fun, but S2 was big disappointment from 1
>Wheel of Time
have a nice day please
at least list some actually good amazon productions, like Patriot or Goliath
>Wheel of time is good
No one actually thinks this, right?
Ya it was garbage
ffs goggins is shit anyways, fricking hell Cinemaphile sucks goggins' dick like leddit constantly guzzles keanu reeves' dick
get some fricking taste anon damn
I understand that being contrarian is often a newfriend’s initial instinct on Cinemaphile, but in this instance you’re out of your depth
na, he just isn't that great and it's frickin moronic everybody goes nuts over him like he's some laurence olivier of modern tv or movies, he just plays himself in every fricking thing the same way
from the shield to sons of anarchy to justified to whatever the frick else
he's not gonna frick you anon lol
SEETHING
homosexual
SON
goggins takes the paycheck nowadays. needing to buy hookers and nose candy makes a fool of us all
He's a good actor but he's on quite a lot of shit
Youre the type of homosexual that was defending Night Country because leddits dyke Jodie Foster would never be in shit. Lamo you dumb homosexual.
Todd Howard strikes again
there is nothing about this that makes me want to even pirate it
time is money, if you waste time watching shit you still paid for it, and unlike money you can't get a refund on a wasted life
you're scrolling and responding on an online message board that earns you zero money anon
Everything about that poster just yells "Don't even bother watching this shit"
>take thing made for men
>adjust it for women
when has this ever not backfired? how many times does this need to repeat?
Ugliest cover ever. I would say it is made by AI, but lets be honest AI would have been 10x better than this
Ghoul doesn't look right. Looks more like a burns victim after 50 rounds of plastic surgery than an actual Fallout ghoul.
Don't mind if they do
Yeah, guess we can expect some effects to be off or cheap
>We can expect some effects to be off
Can we though? Halo - whilst trash- has absolutely nailed the CGI on the covenant and you're telling me Amazon can't afford better CGI than Paramount?
>playing up the goofy aspect and leaning into the cartoon elements of Fallout
GAY.
Brother Hood of Steal
>female protag
>nig sidekick
>bad make up
This shit is dead on arrival kek
It is kinda freightening how formulatic it became. And just like the 2000s with heavy CGI usage, it is mostly a good indicator that this isnt a good show.
I can't wait for the VATS scene and how fricking moronic it's going to be.
I’m unironically excited despite knowing deep down it will be utter shit
the scene in the trailer with the mr. handy gave me a spark of hope
>every couple is dysgenic Black with white person
Yeah...
Good lads
same vibe as borderlands movie
colorful chaotic bullshit for adult babies
>colorful chaotic bullshit for adult babies
this
looks like post-apocalyptic barbie
>colorful chaotic bullshit for adult babies
absolutely this
>female lead
>friendly Black
YAWN!
This reeks of quirky, quippy Bethesda bullshit. They should have just adapted Fallout 1 and made it dark and bleak. It was all right there for them but they fricked it up.
>quirky, quippy Bethesda bullshit.
What? There are no quips in Bethesda dialogue. It's more wooden than chatgpt
Also confused at this considering the first two games were incredibly based dark humour, self aware, and quippy
Looks like Spy Kids or some shit.
Trailer seemed alright, better than what I was expecting, especially after seeing all the culture war gays crying about it. That being said I still think it's going to be a disappointment, and the Power Armor looks pretty silly. Plus that scene of dudes with guns running up into melee range with power armor looked really poorly choreographed.
>That being said
stop using filler words Black person. life isn't a book report and it makes you sound like a low IQ try hard.
>Autistic nitpicking over 3 words
Your entire post is filler. That being said, you're an idiot who thinks a simple phrase is "tryhard", so it's par for the course.
Dumb esl poster
>Calling other people ESLs when you think a simple three word phrase is try hard
Sorry those words make the hamster wheel in your head stop spinning. That being said, you brought this on yourself by deciding to pick silly fights with anonymous posters over the most pedantic shit imaginable.
>that being said
What a homosexual. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>t.
Will Walton Goggins say "Black person" multiple times over the course of the show?
what do you think the plot will be?
Girl boss with plot armour as thick as t-rex hide derps through multiple impossible-to-survive encounters whilst Black folk prop her up.
And a male protag doing the same shit would be?
>And a male protag doing the same shit would be?
.......More believable
Not getting stupid comments from dumb c**ts like you
sexist and reinforcing (true) gender stereotypes
Males are built for violence and have been waging wars for thousands of years, the same cannot be said for females.
If the protag is anything like the game ones, they're just going to be a walking one man army by the end. You've got a pool sized hole you need to fill up with "believable". Making the MC male is like handing you a gallon jug of "believable" it really doesn't make a difference. I would prefer them to be male, but I'm not going to pretend that a lot of the pushback isn't coming from incels with some serious woman hatred.
but you agree they need to bridge the gap between fantastical overpowered game protagonists and a realistic tv series if it's not some capeshit, right? making the protagonist a male is the logical decision if logic is any part of your process
>I'm going to pretend that a lot of the pushback is coming from incels with some serious woman hatred.
Fixed
It definitely is though. You can see in this very thread a bunch of people crying about woman protag and the black side character.
legitimate basic pattern recognition for accessing trash
The leftist fears basic pattern recognition.
It’s supposed to be Lucy finding a GECK kit she will heading toward San Francisco which is where Fallout 5 will be
>people crying about women and Blacks in it
lol have you homosexuals even played fallout ? It was woke there were lots of blacks and women. In new Vegas Veronica was a lesbian
> lol have you homosexuals even played fallout ? It was woke there were lots of blacks and women. In new Vegas Veronica was a lesbian
Don’t care, didn’t ask. I don’t like them. Even if you make a movie about the Zulu, if you put Black folk in it, I will not be seeing it.
>post apocalyptic world
>everything is clean
looks AWESOME!!!
this looks just like the game whats the big deal? you guys just realized how dumb the shit you were playing was lol?
>The Game
> Fallout 3 & 4
Literally KYS
nah you first homosexual. nobody but homosexuals played fallout 1 and 2. real homies were playing baldurs gate, planescape, diablo, watcraft, red alert, aoe, etc. kys my man
>New Vegas doesn't exist
This isn't even about the first games. It's about Todd Howard dick sucking and retconning everything non-bethesda out of existence and acting like he invented Fallout.
Several of those games you listed share gameplay and even developers with Fallout 1 and 2 you Black person moron.
Hello shill
shill by calling it dumg garbage? get your brain checked dumb ape. falloit is for homosexuals like you.
Yet here you are taking the time to comment on a Fallout thread
holy shit this looks so insanely corny and goofy its unreal
Compare to picrel, promotional material from 2008
hell if it even went that route it'd be better than the fo4/76 homosexualry they're going with, literal shit show
It's funny how FO3 used to be shit on for the whole "brown and gloom" filter that was so common of games in the late 2000s / early 2010s. Now the pendulum has shifted back and people miss it.
i'd take the New Vegas piss/BrBa mexico filter over the shit they're gonna be doing with it
Equally hilarious is the "vivid wasteland" mod for FO3 has gone from being the top mod on Nexus to barely talked about these days all in the space of about 5 years
reshades fell off coz of hdr becoming commonplace not because of some nostalgia for brown and gloom.
cinematic games get hdr right trivially nowadays, don't need wet road reshades to get the look anymore
Nothing after New Vegas is cannon. New Vegas is the real Fallout 3, and the last Fallout game ever made.
There's literally a black sidekick in power armor in that game
who will be the love interest, the dog or the Black?
soon AI will solve all our issues
If Fallout was based on the modding scene
I think it would be fun if they have a second version of the first season that is the same show but if it was modded.
543612
What's this Vault named?
vault 69
643215
>video game movies are the new comic book movies
no they're not, comic book movies started off as good
they really didn't
they really did
don't tell me you think Blade and Spider-Man were shit
Howard the duck was before blade.
catwoman was before constantine
and?
>comic book movies started off strong
ohh if we're going all the way back, the 40's shadow was a decent start. I assumed you were talking about the start of modern capeshit
when does that start do you think? i don't even know, i feel like xmen maybe kicked it off, and then stuff didn't really land until spider-man?
God damn you're coping hard aren't you
Comic book "trend" (which I think is what you meant) started in the late nineties and culminated into the MCU around mid noughties
now frick of
i'm not coping, i was just asking what you meant when you said they started strong, because i was thinking about some shit from the 80s which seems like when they started experimenting with it, no need to get angry and start yelling
>Constantine
>v is for vendetta
ok when are you guys starting counting comic book movies? you're just picking random movies that were good.
>you're just picking random movies that were good.
homosexual
it was said they started strong and then examples listed were movies that weren't the start of comic movies so idk what your point is
There's really no helping your moronation is there
The thing that drives me demented about this is the fact that, 1/2/3/NV are the games that made this franchise what it is. Yet 4 is the style that they're now running with for this show and everything else moving forward.
Also what's pathetic about this an indeed all other major franchises is the fact that now the rules and characters of the world is made we must have Brotherhood of steel. The dude who came up with brotherhood of steel was probably some guy who thought they were cool and created them in a week. Why can we not do something different in the universe but keep some things the same.
I mean to say. When a franchise hits any level of popularity the rules, characters, world is now frozen. Fallout won't have any more innovation or good creativity becuase the writers are tards and are also constrained by the world's popularity.
Brotherhood of Steel fatigue is real. Clumping around in power armour is fricking boring, the faction is boring, it's all boring. Christ, give me Republic of Dave, Shady Sands, Boomers, anything over more BoS any day of the week
4 was just off on every level in terms of tone, lore, focus and they're using that as the baseline.
>Republic of Dave
>Boomers
Anon, we both know they'd just go overboard and turn those "factions" (lets be honest, the Republic of Dave is a complete joke with no real staying power) into turbo quipping comedic relief. They're both already quirky moron groups. There's nothing wrong with the Brotherhood, the problem is they decided to adapt the expansionist airship riding crusaders with no subtlety version, instead of the secretive isolationist group they were shown to be in 1 / NV (Didn't finish 2). Honestly, the good guy Lyons FO3 version of them is more fitting if they're going to go through with the whole out and in the open attitude, since the FO4 version retain the techno-hoarding buttholes vibes, but now they're just slapping a giant target on their backs since they're so blatant about it.
you can already tell by the poster the tone is going to be some rick and morty insincere ironic bullshit instead of playing the setting straight. i am so fricking tired
LOL
>captain marvel
>tomb raider 2018
ahahahahahahaha
Does she have any nudes
Yikes
>no supermutants cuz they are icky
>no slavery cuz icky
>no vampires/canibals/gangs raping and selling women icky
only pretty flowers shooting hecking badguys bandits motherfrickers heck yeah drinking some nuka cola and goin on adnventured with mr blackman and mr ghoul (So Funny and random!) pipboy? Scratch that it's pipgirl now.
Super mutants and death claws are going to be in it at some point confirmed with leaks.
they missed the tone completely. Fallout had over the top extreme sadism and gore and slavery as core tenets of the series even from the beginning. Mutants dragging people into vaults and dunking them into FEV turning them into fricking pic rel. Nightmarish shit, it should have a baseline level of looking and feeling "dark" and bleak while still having black humor. This looks more like superhero slop
meant to post a centaur
We don't know if Super Mutants are out and the trailer shows a Mr. Handy drugging the main character to try and harvest her organs. I wouldn't be surprised if it has been reprogrammed by a raider group or something. Nothing else confirms there won't be cannibalism, slavery, gore, etc... Either. The show probably will be shit, but you're jumping to conclusions here.
Shill
>a Mr. Handy drugging the main character to try and harvest her organs.
lame. you're a gay
>Organ harvesting rings aren't dark bro
Okay
>villain is just a machine, not actually an evil person with malicious intent
>it fails before actually harming the MC
it's tame as frick, you're a homosexual
>The robot can't be the tool of a cannibal raider gang
>Why isn't the main character getting killed off in the reveal trailer?
Okay
fallout has literally always had some silliness to it. even the first two. obviously this is going to draw more from the Bethesda era, which is understandable, and it seems like that. regardless, we've had decades of brooding and dark zombie apocalypses enough that i don't think people are going to want to sit through something totally bleak. really depends on how front loaded lighter elements are. looks fairly interesting. droid stealing organs and stuff. i'm sure they'll have slaves and sadistic raiders
You'll love it no matter how shit it is anon, don't pretend you're not a mindless consumer.
i don't really plan on watching it, the trailer just looks like fallout
it looks like fallout 4, which sucked
i avoided 4 because someone said you get the powersuit right away which just made me think the whole game was probably designed stupidly. was it that different in terms of the world and story?
idk because you did indeed get power armor and a minigun in the first 20 minutes. Also I couldn't stand the voice protag and shut it off. Have maybe 4 hours in that game total, meanwhile over 500 in new vegas/3 combined
its free on playstation extra so i almost downloaded it this week to try, but then i remembered there's base building which leads me to believe there's crafting which i no longer want to engage with in video games
Oh man, me too
It's just tiresome at this point
it's like oblivion vs. morrowind, or skyrim vs. oblivion; a "streamlined", dumbed-down version of the previous game, made to appeal to a wider, stupider audience
you play a voiced protagonist, with a canonical name, and a canonical backstory
the dialogue choices are ALWAYS these 4: yes, alternative yes, snarky comment (yes), or no (but still yes)
it's still an RPG, I suppose, as long as you want to play the role of either Nate the Soldier, or his wife Nora the Lawyer
the main quest is functional if not particularly noteworthy - you probably won't care to play it a second time - the references to periods of American history are present, but are more on the nose than ever before; Salem witch trials, War of Independence, Underground Railroad, Chicago gangsters
has all the usual obligatory media references
after being initially disappointed, I returned once there were mods and had some fun with it
it's made infinitely more playable by the mod which allows the player to skip the intro and start with a wider range of backstories, the one which fixes the dialogue system, and the one that makes the BoS arrive whether you do the main quest or not
it's like any other Bethesda game: it lives or dies based on whether you can turn it into what you want it to be with enough mods
it admittedly has some cool elements, the gunplay is much better than the previous games, and the settlement system is flawed but genuinely lots of fun; you can build a town, a faction base, just a house for yourself, a farm, a chem factory - lots of opportunities to play different characters
downside of the settlement system is that they used it as an excuse to have only one actual town, a smaller town, and a trading post which doesn't even exist in a separate worldspace, which leaves the world feeling a little empty
if you've got lots of imagination and hundreds of mods, give it a go
just don't expect the moral ambiguity, adult themes, clever writing, or political intrigue of new vegas
>the gunplay is much better than the previous games
I disagree. Like, vanilla to vanilla, Fo4 shoots better, but new Vegas has guns that look and sound like guns, with much better animations.
With a few mods the FNV gunplay is catastrophically better than 4's
You'll consume it, I guarantee.
maybe if i'm bored. i'm not really a big fallout fan in the first place though i've played 1 through to vegas. goggins character looks cool though. i really don't care if its good or not
There also giving a back story to the vault boy. What do you think it will be ?
I’m assuming he was a child star during prewar seeing as this one will have flashbacks
That's idiotic
so is froglady the lead or is it the Black? is he the love interest ? frick I hate Western television and film
Watching it for Frogfu, simple as
What group / enemy would you like to see ?
I want to see some enclave
Does the ghoul count as a minority in DEI classification?
This will be 100% woke trash. Vault b***h will hook up with angsty black soldier. Fricking cringeeee
>brotherhood of steel in NCR occupied territory
>brotherhood of steel in the west coast at all
I fricking hate Todd Howard
Was the brotherhood really pushed entirely out of the West Coast? They had a presence there in 2, as well as NV. It's not like NCR could really keep tabs on all their chapters hiding away in prewar bunkers. It's just dumb they're doing the whole FO4 big ass airship version.
If I recall correctly they were completely expelled from NCR land, the BoS you meet in NV was cut off from the other west coast chapters because they scattered after the war with the NCR.
Looking at the trailer, it seems like the BoS arrived in California with the Prydwen, implying they came from the east coast chapter (that appears in FO3 and 4), which is even more gay and moronic.
>hmm by my calculations the mothershjp alpha's defensive units are not in the right canonical formation to beat the trade empire radiation drones
Hahaha what a DORK!
simmer down bezos try to be more subtle with your dickriding
so you're saying it could make total sense depending when it takes place.
Wasn't there a schism in Tactics? One remained where they are and stayed techno hoarders no mutants allowed, the other took off in airships and were a bit more relaxed about who could serve (convenient way to allow ghouls and super mutants into your squad roster)
it will be canon according to todd
>brotherhood of steel in the west coast at all
did you not play 1 or 2?
>Synths
It was the shittiest quest in FO3
Why did they have to make an entire game based around that quest? Blade Runner has no place in 50s like sci-fi.
Also Blade Runner is overrated and 2049 is only remembered for the breasts and the memes, it was objectively a shitty movie. Depression is disease only homosexuals catch.
>2049 is only remembered for the breasts
I don't remember breasts
Anyway, the reason is Bethesda Doesn't Understand Fallout™
>the reason is Bethesda Doesn't Understand Fallout™
Bethesda cannot write for shit.
Fo3 story contradicts itself and the writers forgot you could send your companion to do it. The DLC fixed that but the game calls you a homosexual for not killing yourself, fricking lol.
Starfield speaks for itself.
>newbie didn't play Fallout, fallout 2, or New Vega
>newbie never read The Fallout Bible
>newbie thinks 3, 4, and 76 are canonical events
just say you're a fricking woman who doesn't play video games. It's more believable than you being some clueless Black personhomosexual zoomer.
Shut the frick up. Stop posting here.
stfu loregay. What SOVL creativedad Todd "Godd" Howard decrees is now canon. Take your homosexual bible and insert it into your anus
paid shill.
Go fricking have a nice day.
frogface doesn't have the acting gravitas to be a lead character. her voice is also annoying.,
The world deserves a better adaption.
Here I can fix it for you guys and maintian Bethesda's garbage direction
>Same timeline
>Same location
>Walton Ghoulins is vault overseer
>He gets thrown out of the vault for some reason while the nukes are hitting
>A lot of time passes
>Ghoulins who is now a completely deranged ghoul cowboy comes back to the vault with a bunch of ghoul mercenaries + ex ncr deserters and robs it for mcguffin needed to keep vault operational. He kills the main dwellers best friend / partner with a le epic revolver ocelot trickshot
>Main dweller leaves the vault with 3 dwellers and attempts to track down walton ghoulins in *xyz location*
>Dweller and party move towards the target location. At least twice Walton Ghoulins appears and kills one of the party members
>NCR is nuked due to BOS and NCR war + new vegas
>The brotherhood help the dwellers. They catch up to Ghoulins. Ghoulins has some sort of field that neutralizes electronics and energy weapons, so the vault dweller faces them in a 1v1 western style duel.
>The brotherhood help the dwellers get home, then brutally murder all the dwellers and ransack the vault for technology
>I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire starts playing
Where did he steal that from
production budget is LARGE on this one
the cyborg dude in the back looks dumb though
That brotha of steal has zero charisma.
Fallout was meant to have parody elements, but this is like a fan parody of Fallout, everything about it is so bad and cheap
fallout is Satire, not Parody.
>blunder
oh no
Even the AI posters had more soul than this slop.
This screams more like Borderlands than fricking Fallout.
holy sloppa
>roling a female character when you're a guy
this lets play is going to be shit
love how the one on the left acts like she could see and then dodge a bullet with a swerving of her head
I think it's supposed to be more of a flinch from bullets zipping past her but you never know
I'm sure these woke tv writers care very deeply about the hundreds of years of lore of an old RPG series, maybe even as much as bethesda!
You sound like a nerd, BTW fallout 4 is the best fallout
Go write that design document, Emil
you sound like a shit sucking troony
eat shit and die
Will there be synths in it?
at least they have dogmeat
Lol
oh fricking hell
It's like I'm back in 2015
remembuh me
Damn, that looks great
Gives me nostalgia for the original fallout CG
Fairly sure there were black BoS members in all games so I don't see what the big deal is.
Fatigue
Fair point. It's Amazon, there's gotta be some ESG shit in there to keep the Blackrock assassins away from Bezos.
If the female lead ends up hooking up with MarySueBlack personhood of Steal I'll drop the show. I hope she hooks up with the Ghoul or no one. Though she's probably lesbian because reasons.
I'll check it because my family has Prime anyway and the production values doesn't seem like shit, but I really doubt it's decent. Even if by some miracle it isn't crappy, the lorerape will be too much for me
I expect some nice scenes and nods to the franchise, with a shit overall story. Do we know in what year the series plays? Like is it after the events of New Vegas and 4?
It seems as though it's set after NV, because both Shady Sands and the Boneyard seem to have gone through another apocalypse
2296.
Then I'll need a very solid explanation for why this vault has been left alone by the NCR for so long.
The explanation will be the NCR fell apart to make room for the BOS shoehorning that's omnipresent now. The show takes place in California which is almost entirely NCR territory. The trailer shows Shady Sands, the capital city, as a crater and the NCR military as barely more than ragtag raiders in the newest trailer.
New Vegas made the NCR too big
So no nation the size of a state could form after 200 years?
No dude, stop being moronic.
2 had several scenarios and places that could prosper without the NCR, where the factions didn't even figure into their ending, but New Vegas not only canonized all the positive NCR endings but it also implied or stated they got under the NCR, places like New Arroyo or Modoc.
They even wanted to nuke out the Shi
How is that moronic? You do realize how long 200 years is right? Is the Legion equally as bad for being the entirety of Arizona as well? What would be a better scenario?
>How is that moronic?
You're making assumptions based off nothing
>Is the Legion equally as bad for being the entirety of Arizona as well?
Kinda? I thiught it was too much territory. Arizona would've been fine, but it's much of the Utah and Colorado, and all New Mexico too.
But the real thing that makes the NCR different is that we saw these other factions that could've existed without the NCR just get swalled
Arroyo is definitely the worse. Nothing in it's ending implied joining the NCR
Arroyo had the Chosen One and the Shi far outpaced technologically
You sound like you just want to argue for the sake of it. They have technological and manpower advantage over their neighbors so why wouldn't they get them to join, either through diplomacy or by force? Are you sure you're not confusing Arroyo with Navarro, the Enclave base taken by the NCR? Arroyo got a GECK and some Vault 13 survivors, but wouldn't be able to match the NCR in such a short amount of time.
>You sound like you just want to argue for the sake of it.
You were the one who started arguing things
>They have technological and manpower advantage over their neighbors so why wouldn't they get them to join, either through diplomacy or by force?
Because that's not how things work. Switzerland has been more or less independent since what, the HRE? Why hasn't it been gobbled up ny France or Germany or a hypothetical Italy that doesn't automatically loses every war? There's geographical considerations, there's the question of viability, history shows that it's not just one nation eating away smaller ones all the time.
And again, the NCR only has that advantage because the Chosen One gave it to then and New Vegas decided he apparently that he did
The NCR being this humongous power house is due to New Vegas
>Arroyo got a GECK and some Vault 13 survivors
And a Chosen One, aka the reason NCR can be a powerful nation and not completely bodied by the Enclave
No. I posted a map, and you proceeded to sperg.
>The Swiss
That may be the case in a civilized world, but Rome and the Mongolians beg to differ about conquering neighbors. Unless the Chosen One is literal Superman, they wouldn't be able to stop the NCR knocking on their door, even with your head-canon.
>No. I posted a map, and you proceeded to sperg.
If a simple statement is a sperg out to you maybe you should go back to plebbit since divergent opinions offend you so
>That may be the case in a civilized world
but Rome and the Mongolians beg to differ about conquering neighbors.
That doesn't make any sense.
Rome was civilized. So were the Mongols for that matter.
Both Empires had neighbors that they didn't conquer
And also, the factions of fallout are closer to modern era nations than medieval or classical ones
>Unless the Chosen One is literal Superman, they wouldn't be able to stop the NCR knocking on their door
Why not? He stopped the far more formidable Enclave
You're still sperging.
How does that not make sense? Just because you're stuck on Switzerland? Yes both were civilized, but they also conquered their neighbors in similar fashion while others were conquered with diplomacy and forced to pay tribute or die. Them ceasing expansion in one direction or another and forming treaties doesn't negate that they conquered their neighbors.
>closer to modern era nations
Caesar's Legion is modeled after and functions similarly to Rome. Most civilizations outside the NCR are tribal.
>why not?
Again, head-canon.
>You're still sperging.
Sounds like you're mad
>How does that not make sense? Just because you're stuck on Switzerland?
Are being stupid on purpose? I can give you other examples of smaller nation that weren't gobbled up by larger neighbors, Switzerland was just one
>Yes both were civilized
Then you did your statement implied they weren't?
>Them ceasing expansion in one direction or another and forming treaties doesn't negate that they conquered their neighbors
It negates that conquering neighbors is all they did. They coexisted with other nations too.
>Caesar's Legion is modeled after and functions similarly to Rome.
It doesn't function anything at all like Rome, something Caesar himself acknowledges. Play the games.
>Most civilizations outside the NCR are tribal
Modoc wasn't. Vault City wasn't. Redding, New Reno, New Arroyo, the Den..
>Again, head-canon.
>no response
Okay, then
The sperging continues.
You present poor arguments. Your logic boils down to Switzerland and The Chosen One. You haven't presented an actual reason why the NCR got too large or why cities wouldn't join them. When pressed about it you just say Chosen One, which would rely on your head-canon which isn't based on anything other than your preference.
>The sperging continues.
You sound very mad
>You present poor arguments.
Actually I present very solid ones, despite your whining. You on the other hand doesn't even seem to know the meaning of the word civilization or to have played any of the Fallout games of have any significant knowledge of history, hence your embarrassing statement about the Legion functioning "similarly" to Rome.
>Your logic boils down to Switzerland and The Chosen One.
Nope, neither of those are even central to my point, which you seem to constantly misunderstand.
My point was that New Vegas made the NCR too big by both canonizing every ending in which it succeeded and by also making it so other settlements are also absorbed by the republic even if their ending never even gave that as a possibility
Your fundamental misunderstanding of this simple fact is what has you trapped, because it's simply undeniable that an NCR triumph wasn't a canonical ending for 2 (unlike New Arroyo, which it obligatorily is) but a possibility, one that New Vegas not only ran with but also expanded further.
Switzerland was used as an example of simple rebuttal of your nonsensical claim that it's an inevitability that bigger nations conquer larger ones, which, due to your historical illiteracy, you seem to think it's the only one I can cite. Again, nonsense. San Marino has stood independent for hundreds of years. Portugal was never conquered by Spain, remaining an independent realm even during the Iberian Union. And so on.
>You haven't presented an actual reason why the NCR got too large or why cities wouldn't join then
Because again, that wasn't my point. Someone that played Fallout 2 would've undertood that what I said relates to your choices in the game and how it affects the game's endings
1/2
>you mad bro
>writes memoir
Interesting.
It was a canonical ending, hence why it is canon. Your historical examples are irrelevant because at one point they were conquered by one society or another. Your other points are irrelevant prattle and assumptions. The core of your argument is basically main character syndrome.
>>you mad bro
You are, and I really don't understand why
memoir
I'm sorry reading is such a daunting task for you
>It was a canonical ending
But it wasn't. There's no mention of Arroyo joining the NCR in any of its endings
>Your historical examples are irrelevant because at one point they were conquered by one society or another.
San Marino never was and we could get into Portuguese history, but your total lack of historical knowledge would make it futile. Please read a history book once in a while
>Your other points are irrelevant prattle and assumptions.
I'm sorry you're too illiterate to comprehend them. If it was loss I'd draw them in crayon so you could maybe understand it
>The core of your argument is basically main character syndrome.
It's not. But let me ask another question which you will dodge. What would've happened to the NCR without the main protagonists of the Fallout games?
Just because you insist on something doesn't make it true. Reading isn't a daunting task. You're clearly a bit heated, as it's untoward for a man to type like an emotional woman. As for your question, Shady Sands most likely would have been wiped out by the Master and his supermutants unless the BOS decided to step in due to lack of manpower and resources. This would also carry over for the Enclave should they survive the Master. Though the NCR proper may not come to exist at all if Tandi is never rescued from the Khans.
>Reading isn't a daunting task
It clearly is for (You).
> clearly a bit heated
Please don't project unto me how mad you are. It's unbecoming.
And please refrain from responding until you have actually played the Fallout games and actually studied at least a bit of history
>Though the NCR proper may not come to exist at all if Tandi is never rescued from the Khans.
Main character syndrome, I see
>When pressed about it you just say Chosen One, which would rely on your head-canon which isn't based on anything other than your preference.
Again, basic game ignorance
The Chosen One is the reason the NCR can expand as high as it can; the chose on is also the reason the Enclave (which the NCR had no hope of defeating alone) is brought down. With these inarguable facts laid before you, answer me why wouldn't the Chosen One be able to stop the NCR?
2/2
The Mojave. Outer Vegas. Whoever wrote that bullshit about everything outside the NCR being tribals, is a woman, or a paid shill.
Stop replying to them.
I guess I will, he keeps shifting points and ignoring his previous stupid statements
It's just that I like to discuss the NCR and how New Vegas was the game that made it a superpower, when it even in 2's best outcomes for it, it didn't get this big
It's interesting both because a less powerful NCR is probably more consistent with Interplay's original Fallout 3 idea and how it speaks something of the alleged lack of communication between Avellone and Sawyer while making NV.
It's weird to me that Lonesome Road is basically an entire Avellone rant about the NCR becoming too powerful when it was NV, not 2, that made the faction that way
The New California Republican Army are forced out of Nevada, and most especially New Vegas after the events of the 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam. Robert House and The Courier create a temporary alliance with the NCR, creating "The New Independent Economic zone of Las Vegas".
Without House and his army of Securitrons, without The Courier, Caesar would've steamrolled The NCR at Hoover Dam. Superior numbers, superior training. If not The Legion, The Brotherhood would've wiped out the entire "nation" in a few months.
Frick the NCR. And it's shill fanboys.
Nothing you wrote has any bearing to what I said
yes it does. I was actually reinforcing your point that The NCR isn't shit. New Vegas made them into Superman, when in reality, they're a corrupt political failure on the verge of collapse by the end of Fallout 2.
>they're a corrupt political failure on the verge of collapse by the end of Fallout 2.
But by they're rising on 2 and only really corrupt with Frank Carlson in charge. What bothered me about NV is that while the NCR was obviously supposed to be a powerful nation, since been in their worse ending their expansion is merely "slowed down" and they figure into many other factions endings, it's weird that NV canonized ALL the NCR positive endings
they have radios and gas-powered vehicles, they can conquer everything that isn't able to militarily resist them. which nothing will be able to once they start growing to include more people, who they can then bring to bear anywhere on their border instantly with their trucks or trains or aircraft or whatever it is they're using
The NCR collapse after New Vegas. Robert House and The Courier push them out of Nevada completely. Vegas belongs to Robert House, and Robert House only. Nobody gives a frick about The Mojave, it's independent territory completely hostile to the New California Republic.
Weird. Why did Necropolis move?
1's map is less accurate to the real world than 2's I think.
Necrophobic is easy to find because it's supposed to be Bakersfield
Man, Fo3 seems positively quaint with what Bethesda has been doing with the lore
Shit, to think Tactics was once seen as bad handling of it
Disney Nuwars first trailer vibes
KWAB
>female protagonist mary sue
>armored black stormtrooper quasi love interest
>le wacky quips
it's just force awakens again
>See this thing people fricking hate
>Let's do it again minus the brand recognition
Reminder that there was a one-eyed freak in the first trailer.
That's what I call me willy
>"hey smoothskin, try these- these used to be called sopapillas. before the bombs fell, mi abuelita and i used to make them all the time. i miss her, mi abuelita and miho coco... you're alright, for a gringo."
>Female lead
>Black side kick
>Only white guy present is disfigured/disguised in such a way he's not really white
>Get behind the strong wahman, she will save the day.
Eh, I'm looking forward to it. Like everything else it stands or falls with the writing. Could be dogshit, could be surprisingly good or at least ok.
I will watch the first episode on the russian streaming site and all of you morons will too, don't pretend you won't.
>black guy
>woman
it was over before it started
what do you think this shit is? CBD oil?
RadAway?
Is that Batista's daughter from that Zack Snyder zombie movie? The one that said "probally"?
And why does the ghoul have smooth skin?
I might have been able to tolerate it but the black male love interest killed it, they just can't help themselves
They really are destroying every single thing nerds ever enjoyed. It's a massacre.
>fem mc
of fricking course
Fem MC is canon for all Fallout games so makes sense.
You taking your meds clearly isn’t canon irl
Vault Dweller is canonically male
false
True
Looks like dogshit
>Look at the top of his head
>Look at his lips
when will the female mc meme end?
is that AI?
why is a Brotherhood knight teaming up with some randos?
Dogshit. Fallout 4 style is horrible and I hate everything about this. LA will literally only make sense to be such a shithole if the Boneyards got nuked by the courier at the end of Lonesome Road…meaning destroy the NCR is canon lol. Not like thats a bad thing but I have my doubts theyre actually going to make that canon, just make the NCR more in line with Bethesda shantytown fallout.
man that is a fricking horrendous poster, real slopshit
Wheres the NCR?
The enclave turn out to be starship troopers tier and become the fan favorites of the show, the writers have to destroy the show because the enclave plot is more interesting.
man in the enclave castle
There's two limiting factors for NCR: water and uranium. There's no oil left so it's all renewables or nuclear.
>a Black person, a stronk women and a ghoul stepped into a bar
I've looked at youtube comments and it was apparent that 95% of people looking forward to the show only played Fallout 4.
What the frick happened to television?
Social media and a massive drop in white males in writer rooms.
>Social media and a massive drop in white males in writer rooms
Speaking of that, what happened with the Strike? Who won?
What?
>is that a nerdy media franchise with an overwhelming white and male fanbase? MAKE ALL THE MAIN CHARACTERS BLACK OR FEMALE!
I honestly wouldn’t give a frick about the main characters’ gender or race normally. I certainly didn’t ten years ago. It’s just that in the last decade female or black leads became more and more an indicator that the show/movie will be about “men bad”/“white bad”, and it already reached 100% certainty a couple of years ago.
>here is some imagery you should recognize
>now, please watch our show that we will shoot in a desert or someplace cheap
>no, nothing will be real, it's all digital
>btw, what do you think of Halorian?
DAS RITE
THE WORLD DESERVES A BETTER ENDING RID OF THOSE RACIST GAMERS
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE PROTAGONIST ITS THE CURRENT YEAR!!!!
Will these people ever do a white man as a protagonist? Like I mean, left to their own devices and given infinite time, would they ever make a white man a protagonist.
One that isn’t just a training wheel to the female protagonist like in Barbie or ROP
you literally cant get scripts greenlighted no matter how good they are if they dont fit the right race and gender profiles. Admitted by the show biz managers themselves
Independent Film and independent Webseries still exist. Frick Hollywood. We haven't needed them in 30 years.
Aren't those mostly just bible thumpers and other freaks pushing their agenda though?
Everyone has an agenda. Even you.
But no, not really. I watch a ton of independent film, and used to watch a LOT of fan made webseries, like Fallout: Red Star. 99% of it is just people who work and live outside the Hollywood system. No one pays attention to bible thumping idiots or homosexuals from The East Bay making student films about lesbian wheat farmers.
You could if you were a company headed by someone not castrated. These people don’t have as much grip on the companies as it seems, the companies could get rid of them but they don’t because they still live in the delusion that it makes more money by "appealing to more groups", when eventually they will realize that
>hey wait a minute why are we alienating our core audience that is 90% white men? Maybe we don’t have to appeal to everyone
You seem to be under the impression that western entertainment companies today are still trying to appeal to the widest possible audience. The only audience that matters for them right now is Larry Fink. They hire thousands of inexperienced women and minorities as writers, just to raise their ESG score. And they try to hire the cheapest there is, so they end up hiring those who do it for the opportunity to spread “the message”, rather than for money. Then these ideologues fill every story with “white man bad” dialogues and story lines, and there’s no one who dares to reject these, because everyone’s afraid of being labeled racist/misogynist.
This shit won’t stop as long as ESG score is a thing.
Yeah, the narrative that pozzing is an attempt to appeal to everyone has clearly been proven bullshit. Woke entertainment consistently fail and the ones that succeed are almost there invariably supported by something else like a strong brand name
It's not means to be good and it's not meant to be popular, it's propaganda meant to manufacture consent
plus women are just the more subjective sex
so they write what they know - their life experiences - which is a combination of being a vapid cumdumpster (full of bitterness for being such) and strolling through life on the shoulders of others