At least summer camp island season 6 (which was supposed to come out 2 weeks ago) was given a new release date for next year. Little Ellen season 3 was supposed to come out in a few days but now it's been removed and there hasn't been any words if they plan to release it in the future. It's very likely they might actually lock these finished episodes of the show in a vault.
The only animated series they’ve removed are Thundercats Roar and Little Ellen I’m pretty sure. The rest were bad modern adult swim shows I think. They’re just cutting the shit, probably for a tax write off.
Not that guy but I gather it works like this: >Pay for a show to be made >Torpedo the show in some way >Show no longer has viewers and thus no more earnings >Show is technically a loss >Report as such
Streaming and home video isn't part of the write-off. That's why they can stream shows like beware the Batman that have broadcasting rights written-off. You have to think like a CEO who wants to maximize prophets, image (corporate and brand), and synergy. Little Ellen is bad because Ellen is persona-non-grata these days and lgbt grooming is a hot button issue right now even with many leftists so a kid show centered around a lesbian celebrity (even if it isn't gay-centric) is a bad look when you're trying to woo new clients. Thundercats Roar is gone because it does not align itself with the rest of the Thundercats brand, a brand that still could be marketable and profitable for WB. They don't want people to look and find Thundercats Roar when they start shilling for a movie, they want people to watch the two shows that make it clear the property is an action/sci-fi brand.
Warner/Discovery merged
The new leadership has talked about cutting the fat from their animated properties, a few shows have been removed from CN's website and HBO Max.
BULLSHIT The israelites just want us to believe so to make their degenerate fetishes a reality. The israelites want to feed us shit, not for the money, but for their sick fetishes.
Believe me, anon. People actually watch that shit. My family watches TLC slop daily.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>unfortunately all those shitty reality shows apparently make bank.
Because they cost practically nothing to make.
BULLSHIT The israelites just want us to believe so to make their degenerate fetishes a reality. The israelites want to feed us shit, not for the money, but for their sick fetishes.
What if you are all correct? >Brand X Brand X it's different but all the same!
It's garbage, but unfortunately all those shitty reality shows apparently make bank.
Shit like 90-day fiance and my 600 lb life are super popular.
No actors, no writers, musical score is primarily pulled from stock catalogues...They basically just need to get a camera crew to film horrible people for awhile and then get a rockstar editing team to cut it into some sort of narrative.
A bunch of animated shows are being removed from a variety of streaming platforms. It started back when Netflix suddenly canceled a bunch of animated shows that were in the works and laid off a whole lot of staff, and has been escalating by the month. No one's sure why.
>No one's sure why.
I mean, I can think of a few reasons. >We're clearly in the beginning stages of a recession >Most of these shows suck ass and no one actually watches them >A lot of companies have lost a decent amount of money since their peaks in 2020, and animation always gets cut first to save costs.
Well yeah, the left doesn't see it as any sort of weird conspiracy, it's just capitalism and disrespect for media archival at play. >wokies
Please don't let that be a word.
Lost media is lost media for a reason. Everyone has the popular stuff, but in the future it's possible that these crappy shows are going to actually be the dank shit due to it's rarity.
The Star Wars Christmas special was a piece of shit, but it's still a shame that the only version we have is a SUPER shitty degraded VHS recording. If more people had bothered to archive it, it's possible we may have been able to find a better quality recording.
Best policy is to archive everything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The only reason anyone cares about the Star Wars Christmas special is because Star Wars is closer to a cult than it is a fandom, if it was just some shitty Christmas special unrelated to Star Wars no one would give a frick about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That pretty much proves my point exactly.
At the time the Christmas special came out, Star Wars was just a sci-fi film. No trilogy...just one film that people kind of liked with a Christmas special that really sucked.
NOBODY could have anticipated that it would become what it did, or that the special would end up being so rare, otherwise they would have taken better care to archive it.
Again...archive everything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Star Wars was huge starting with New Hope. Toys were already selling like crazy and lines to see the movie we’re out the door.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was a popular movie, but it wasn’t verging on religion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This guy is absolutely right. Imagine in the future it comes out that Ellen was a child molester, this would instantly become gold
Animation isn't profitable anymore. That's it. It used to be (during the 60's and 90's), animation was useful because it helped sell advertising. In the 80's it sold toys. Now in the age of streaming, animation is nothing but a dead weight when live action kidshit is so much cheaper.
This.
People forgot that they still need money to run this industry, and if your animated property is only watched by a (relative) handful of poor internet autists and you don't have some way to finance it outside of advertising (like a multimedia project) then it's going to die.
American animation is basically nothing but nepotism and creators using animation as a group therapy session, so it's going to end up dying out if it doesn't adapt.
The only real way to justify animation from now on is going to be film, or something attached to a film series so that it serves as advertising for upcoming films. Like Camp Cretaceous, which is constantly claiming to be SO IMPORTANT for the various Jurassic World movies; when in reality I don't think it is ever referenced once.
>The only real way to justify animation from now on is going to be film
Wasn't it always kind of that way?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe in, like, the 1940's. But since the dawn of television, animation has always been a big moneymaker through one strategy or another. But streaming works on subscription, and the monthly subscription doesn't care if your child watches Elmo or Thundercats Go. It's the same per month, and the only thing that matters is keeping the subscribers. And guess who doesn't pay for the subscription? Kids. The parent pays, and the parent isn't going to care if the kid is only able to watch Elmo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm talking more in terms of general reception; in the sense that your average audience would mostly only give more than two fricks about nearly any animation if it was in theatrical format; especially if it was made and/or distributed by Disney or their subsidiaries or something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Simpsons >Family Guy >Spongebob >South Park
And those are just the very big moneymakers. Obviously you have various tiers of profitability, but to say that "only animated films were profitable or popular" is a beyond idiotic statement.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>profitability
Again, I'm referring to general reception more than profitability. As in normies going "hey, this is more that just some stupid kiddie bullcrap" over some Pixar film or some shit. Of course there's exceptions in things like prime-time tv and such, but I'm mainly referring to film.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Profitability is the only measure of reception that matters. Consider South Park again. When it first came out it was HATED by many who found it vulgar, too political, or outright meanspirited. Viacom didn't care. It made money. That's all that matters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Profitability is the only measure of reception that matters.
And word of mouth often begets profitability. Even the SP example you brought up was a pretty good example of the Streisand Effect eventually doing its thing.
>animation isn't profitable anymore
This has got to be the most moronic, uneducated take I've ever had the displeasure to read on this board. Congratulations.
wait what?
i wasnt even aware this was out and it nearly got s3?
fricking christ what a joke hbo is (keep making DP though i know youre erading this hbo
real talk, this should probably be archived somewhere. I get that it's not super popular on /co right now, but it's prime fodder for eventual lost media.
You are actually, genuinely moronic if you think that.
naw, he's got a point. If the adult swim stuff is getting pulled specifically, it smells like they're getting ready to launch their own service.
Considering everyone else is doing it, it's not at all far fetched.
Not to be negative, but pretty much everything previously greenlit but not fully in production is likely to be axed. The number one priority for new leadership after a merger is to eliminate everything that the previous leadership touched, so that the new leadership can claim they saved the company with [insert generic product that would have been funded anyway].
Someone else will word it better than me, but it'll be because Netflix "seasons" aren't the real seasons. It's their shitty way of paying animators less.
>it’s already been ordered to series
that doesn't mean anything anymore after CN announced Mao Mao season 2 just to cancel it later and never mention the show again.
>Little Bill
>Little Ellen
Never use Little as the start of your shows title.
What about Little Prince?
He gets a pass
Only if you use the good version. (2015)
Honestly, I can think of a few reasons to purge this.
Better late than never, but still.
I think it's now little cartoon formerly known as prince now.
what about little simz, or any Black man who uses lil as part of their name
Nah kiddie versions of celebrities are just massive red flags.
Don't forget Little Rosey.
little hitler did nothing wrong.
mein teacher
At least summer camp island season 6 (which was supposed to come out 2 weeks ago) was given a new release date for next year. Little Ellen season 3 was supposed to come out in a few days but now it's been removed and there hasn't been any words if they plan to release it in the future. It's very likely they might actually lock these finished episodes of the show in a vault.
Great, now there's some more lost media.
The only good thing Ellen did is Green Eggs and Ham
The purge has begun
So how come other nations didn't invade the frick out of the US? Also what incentive is there to even stop once the purge alloted time is over?
It's not supposed to be realistic, it's a dystopia, the preferred genre of morons.
>All other weapons are prohibited
No mininukes allowed!?
Can someone give a rundown of this "cartoon purge"?
The only animated series they’ve removed are Thundercats Roar and Little Ellen I’m pretty sure. The rest were bad modern adult swim shows I think. They’re just cutting the shit, probably for a tax write off.
Oh and Elliot from Earth. Always forget about that one.
>They’re just cutting the shit, probably for a tax write off.
You keep saying this. Please explain how cutting shows results in a tax write off.
Not that guy but I gather it works like this:
>Pay for a show to be made
>Torpedo the show in some way
>Show no longer has viewers and thus no more earnings
>Show is technically a loss
>Report as such
anon doesn't know what a write off is.
Streaming and home video isn't part of the write-off. That's why they can stream shows like beware the Batman that have broadcasting rights written-off. You have to think like a CEO who wants to maximize prophets, image (corporate and brand), and synergy. Little Ellen is bad because Ellen is persona-non-grata these days and lgbt grooming is a hot button issue right now even with many leftists so a kid show centered around a lesbian celebrity (even if it isn't gay-centric) is a bad look when you're trying to woo new clients. Thundercats Roar is gone because it does not align itself with the rest of the Thundercats brand, a brand that still could be marketable and profitable for WB. They don't want people to look and find Thundercats Roar when they start shilling for a movie, they want people to watch the two shows that make it clear the property is an action/sci-fi brand.
Warner/Discovery merged
The new leadership has talked about cutting the fat from their animated properties, a few shows have been removed from CN's website and HBO Max.
>new leadership has talked about cutting the fat
Which is funny because Discovery's idea of 'programming' is nothing but deep-fried fat.
It's garbage, but unfortunately all those shitty reality shows apparently make bank.
Shit like 90-day fiance and my 600 lb life are super popular.
BULLSHIT The israelites just want us to believe so to make their degenerate fetishes a reality. The israelites want to feed us shit, not for the money, but for their sick fetishes.
Believe me, anon. People actually watch that shit. My family watches TLC slop daily.
What if you are all correct?
>Brand X Brand X it's different but all the same!
>unfortunately all those shitty reality shows apparently make bank.
Because they cost practically nothing to make.
No actors, no writers, musical score is primarily pulled from stock catalogues...They basically just need to get a camera crew to film horrible people for awhile and then get a rockstar editing team to cut it into some sort of narrative.
And that's the crux of the issue here; animation is relatively expensive compared to your typical TV-level live action production.
A bunch of animated shows are being removed from a variety of streaming platforms. It started back when Netflix suddenly canceled a bunch of animated shows that were in the works and laid off a whole lot of staff, and has been escalating by the month. No one's sure why.
>No one's sure why.
probably realised no one wants these crappy nu age shows
>No one's sure why.
I mean, I can think of a few reasons.
>We're clearly in the beginning stages of a recession
>Most of these shows suck ass and no one actually watches them
>A lot of companies have lost a decent amount of money since their peaks in 2020, and animation always gets cut first to save costs.
That's a fine point.
I'd argue this is different from Netflix, since that one at least canned ongoing projects. WB seems to be eliminating finished projects.
Was this show any good?
>WB seems to be eliminating finished projects.
Makes no sense except from streaming royalties
I'm thankful the wokies haven't tried to make big conspiracy videos about the purge and why it's happening
Well yeah, the left doesn't see it as any sort of weird conspiracy, it's just capitalism and disrespect for media archival at play.
>wokies
Please don't let that be a word.
>and disrespect for media archival
I mean, first you have to make media that people want to archive to begin with.
Lost media is lost media for a reason. Everyone has the popular stuff, but in the future it's possible that these crappy shows are going to actually be the dank shit due to it's rarity.
The Star Wars Christmas special was a piece of shit, but it's still a shame that the only version we have is a SUPER shitty degraded VHS recording. If more people had bothered to archive it, it's possible we may have been able to find a better quality recording.
Best policy is to archive everything.
The only reason anyone cares about the Star Wars Christmas special is because Star Wars is closer to a cult than it is a fandom, if it was just some shitty Christmas special unrelated to Star Wars no one would give a frick about it.
That pretty much proves my point exactly.
At the time the Christmas special came out, Star Wars was just a sci-fi film. No trilogy...just one film that people kind of liked with a Christmas special that really sucked.
NOBODY could have anticipated that it would become what it did, or that the special would end up being so rare, otherwise they would have taken better care to archive it.
Again...archive everything.
Star Wars was huge starting with New Hope. Toys were already selling like crazy and lines to see the movie we’re out the door.
It was a popular movie, but it wasn’t verging on religion.
This guy is absolutely right. Imagine in the future it comes out that Ellen was a child molester, this would instantly become gold
You have no idea what people might want to archive or what somebody might be looking for. We keep circulating the tapes for a reason.
That’s because npc’s have no critical thinking, thus making them npc’s in the first place, and wouldn’t have the drive or desire to make such a video.
Pseudo's still exist, anon
Animation isn't profitable anymore. That's it. It used to be (during the 60's and 90's), animation was useful because it helped sell advertising. In the 80's it sold toys. Now in the age of streaming, animation is nothing but a dead weight when live action kidshit is so much cheaper.
This.
People forgot that they still need money to run this industry, and if your animated property is only watched by a (relative) handful of poor internet autists and you don't have some way to finance it outside of advertising (like a multimedia project) then it's going to die.
American animation is basically nothing but nepotism and creators using animation as a group therapy session, so it's going to end up dying out if it doesn't adapt.
The only real way to justify animation from now on is going to be film, or something attached to a film series so that it serves as advertising for upcoming films. Like Camp Cretaceous, which is constantly claiming to be SO IMPORTANT for the various Jurassic World movies; when in reality I don't think it is ever referenced once.
>The only real way to justify animation from now on is going to be film
Wasn't it always kind of that way?
Maybe in, like, the 1940's. But since the dawn of television, animation has always been a big moneymaker through one strategy or another. But streaming works on subscription, and the monthly subscription doesn't care if your child watches Elmo or Thundercats Go. It's the same per month, and the only thing that matters is keeping the subscribers. And guess who doesn't pay for the subscription? Kids. The parent pays, and the parent isn't going to care if the kid is only able to watch Elmo.
I'm talking more in terms of general reception; in the sense that your average audience would mostly only give more than two fricks about nearly any animation if it was in theatrical format; especially if it was made and/or distributed by Disney or their subsidiaries or something.
>Simpsons
>Family Guy
>Spongebob
>South Park
And those are just the very big moneymakers. Obviously you have various tiers of profitability, but to say that "only animated films were profitable or popular" is a beyond idiotic statement.
>profitability
Again, I'm referring to general reception more than profitability. As in normies going "hey, this is more that just some stupid kiddie bullcrap" over some Pixar film or some shit. Of course there's exceptions in things like prime-time tv and such, but I'm mainly referring to film.
Profitability is the only measure of reception that matters. Consider South Park again. When it first came out it was HATED by many who found it vulgar, too political, or outright meanspirited. Viacom didn't care. It made money. That's all that matters.
>Profitability is the only measure of reception that matters.
And word of mouth often begets profitability. Even the SP example you brought up was a pretty good example of the Streisand Effect eventually doing its thing.
>animation isn't profitable anymore
This has got to be the most moronic, uneducated take I've ever had the displeasure to read on this board. Congratulations.
They probably looked at the numbers and saw only adults are using their services, kids are on YouTube or gaming
wait what?
i wasnt even aware this was out and it nearly got s3?
fricking christ what a joke hbo is (keep making DP though i know youre erading this hbo
It's still on HBO Max in the US.
real talk, this should probably be archived somewhere. I get that it's not super popular on /co right now, but it's prime fodder for eventual lost media.
https://www.wcostream.com/anime/little-ellen
https://kimcartoon.li/Cartoon/Little-Ellen
it's not a purge, they are probably preparing yet another streaming site and are collecting shows to fill it.
You are actually, genuinely moronic if you think that.
naw, he's got a point. If the adult swim stuff is getting pulled specifically, it smells like they're getting ready to launch their own service.
Considering everyone else is doing it, it's not at all far fetched.
I mean CN ordered two seasons before Ellen got cancelled, bu even before that it was stupid
what
So what’s been removed this far? Anyone got a list going?
This was the list yesterday when they removed Thundercats Roar, so these and Little Ellen.
Basically nothing of value, still though it does seem odd they just hand waved them from the public eye
Oh shit they got Final Space?
Makes sense. They'd have to pay the guy and weren't they basically renting it from TBS or something?
Maybe it's because just having shows no one watches costs the platforms money (leasing, etc)
DREAM CORP LLC?
Guess us 10 fans have to take this as the closest to an officially cancellation.
watch Power Players get picked up by another network
As long as we get Venture Bros movie I’ll be happy
Not to be negative, but pretty much everything previously greenlit but not fully in production is likely to be axed. The number one priority for new leadership after a merger is to eliminate everything that the previous leadership touched, so that the new leadership can claim they saved the company with [insert generic product that would have been funded anyway].
Oh no! Pedo show got cancelled!
>see little girl
>instant thought is pedos
Anon....
>see heavily stylized and unrealistic fictional cartoon
>instantly think of little girls
I thought he was calling Ellen Degeneres that.
>weird purge
There's nothing weird about it.
>the weird purge
Yes, I like the sound of that.
I'm honestly survived it lasted as long as it did considering the allegations towards Ellen DdeGeneres.
>Premiered 9 months ago
>Season 3
how in the frick?
Someone else will word it better than me, but it'll be because Netflix "seasons" aren't the real seasons. It's their shitty way of paying animators less.
>AT&T buys Warner
>Gut it like a fish
>Sell the leftover scraps to Discovery
>They gut the scrap even further
I hate acquisitions
The only thing I don’t want the merger to affect
According to it sources it’s still going strong and some have said it’s already been ordered to series so I’m hopeful
>it’s already been ordered to series
that doesn't mean anything anymore after CN announced Mao Mao season 2 just to cancel it later and never mention the show again.
I have it on good authority that CN is going to do a big push with this one. Can’t say why. Feel free to not believe me I don’t care.
Mao Mao season 2 exists!
deserves chubby art, would look better if her hair were longer to her jaw.
I kinda liked Little Ellen. It was a chill show. What a shame.
Too white.
thundercats roar is gone everywhere so is a tax off just like Ellen
GOOD!