Okay debate time, who here thinks that this version of Prowler is the hero version of him?
Okay debate time, who here thinks that this version of Prowler is the hero version of him?
Okay debate time, who here thinks that this version of Prowler is the hero version of him?
I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being the twist, though I'd prefer if he really is a villain who still helps Miles, or at least a dark anti-hero.
I probably could see him being that way
Yeah
Given that he's still got Uncle Aaron around and his dad was clearly enough of an influence for Prowler Miles to make a mural of him the same way that Spider Miles made a mural of his uncle, then I could see Prowler Miles being the sort of least-evil Villain on Earth 42, if not an outright anti-hero.
On the radio, we hear about the Sinister 6 Cabal and we see all these mega-corp buildings around.
But 42's Aaron and Miles go to Aaron's apartment, not one of the other organizations. Makes me think that they're unaffiliated with Kingpin or Sinister 6 or anyone else, which further suggests to me that they're Robin-Hood types
I feel he's gonna be dark anti-hero (well "dark" as far as a PG movie will go anyway).
The film is PG? No wonder I heard a lot ass, damns, and hells in the film.
Let's ignore the the whole Miguel's death cult
No that would have been fine for a G movie.
Or that people can die on screen.
>Lizard Peter got crushed
>Prowler got shot
>Octavia got run over by a truck and probably sucked into another dimension to die
>Spider-Man getting whacked by Kingpin.
This trilogy is gonna have the most deaths in all of Spider-Man next to Infinity War.
He's out for himself and his family in an anarchic version of New York and his mom seems safe and happy. He's an actual antihero, not just a hero with a dark theme like Batman.
>though I'd prefer if he really is a villain who still helps Miles, or at least a dark anti-hero.
This.
After watching the movie it left me thinking that this was SUCH a better reveal than the "Who's bad guy Miles Morales of the 616 universe" we got in the comics
Oh my god.... He's so fricking cool
He didn't say that.
Aaron was literally going on about their plan to rob a store, no hero would threaten Spider-Man like that
>no hero would threaten Spider-Man like that
There isn't even a Spider-man that exists there to begin with.
Remember, 42's universe has an Alchemax. Prowler wouldn't work for Kingpin or Octavius in this timeline, so he sent his son to be an anti-hero and protect his family.
If he's the hero then he did a piss poor job. Miles-42's Brooklyn looks like a third world city.
Maybe he just started?
I don't remember it being a store. I remember him talking about security cameras but not a store. So it could be anything really.
>Miles-42's Brooklyn looks like a third world city.
I mean, so does Gotham most of the time.
He definitely fricks his alternative self.
He's definitely not a hero, though I don't see any real reason why he wants to torture an alternate version of himself.
"my dad died, so urs should too"
"but my uncle already died"
"idc lol"
Aaron really is a god awful influence on Miles if that's the case, too.
There's a reason his dad didn't like miles hanging around him
>hough I don't see any real reason why he wants to torture an alternate version of himself.
From his perspective as someone who hasn't dealt with any multiverse stuff, someone having his own face and appealing to his father's death would be suspicious as frick at best an an insult to him at worse..
I mean he hasn't actually tortured Miles yet. Just tied him up and intimidated him so far.
And with how bad the rest of the city apparently is, it's understandable you are going to be suspicious if a carbon copy of yourself suddenly shows up.
aaron is a bad influence on miles. without jeff to be a counter point to aaron. that is what happens
execs mandate tacticool BS on realitist graphic hero games. it is a plague
Remember when Miles met Spider-Man and then tied him up to his punchbag right after accidently knocking him out by dragging him across the city?
The same thing happened with 42's Miles. Knockout and then interrogation on the punchbag. He's only doing what Miles would do.
And Prowler's signature trumpet theme in ITSV is part of Miles' theme played backwards.
Makes sense
I think he'll try to take Miles's dad from his universe so he can have a dad again
But that would still require them to team up to save Mile's dad, because he's going to die in a few days regardless.
>hero version
I don't know that Dad comment makes me think he's pretty much full villain in this universe.
So is Miguel being a vampire that nearly bloodsucked a villain gonna come up again in part 2? Felt odd that it only got a passing reference after his first scene.
He was going to inject Vulture with venom from his fangs, the film really should’ve given Miguel a quick backstory like the rest of the relevant Spider-Men and Women in these films
There’s definitely more to him so we’ll probably see that in Beyond
>grows up without father figure
>turns into delinquent
Why is marvel trying to whitesplain hood trauma?
Super Heroes in Videogames always look so over designed and bland.
Same reason they Whitesplain a black SpiderMan.
>Prowler Miles is a villain influenced by Aaron
>Spider Miles influences him to become a better person
>Prowler Miles becomes a hero against Aaron's will
>both team up to defeat Miguel
i see this coming.
Lmao are they trying to make him threatening? Looks like sissy about get his buck broken by Spider troony. Reminds that panel with Deku when mangaka tried his hardest to make him look evil but still ended up with pathetic twink
Ancillary question:
The Hobie Brown of Peter B's dimension is also probably a Prowler, right?
Most likely. He's also the most antagonistic Spider-person in the movie, at least to the Spider-society.
He's the most helpful spider-person in the movie as far as Miles is concerned
Which also tracks, Hobie is almost always on his side when he has the full picture.
With how he reacts to Miles wanting to save his dad, doesn’t seem likely.
A hero would say yes.
An anti-hero would say why?
A villain would smile.
Miles Prowler is not the bad guy. Probably even less evil than Black Suit Spider-Man.
You think he's The Bat of his dimension? The Uncle painted hero mural done by the Uncle points to it. Tying someone up and acting threatening is totally Batman.
That would be the best version of comic Myles to be tbh
Can someone explain why the Pajeet Spider-Man tried to save his Captain despite knowing that it was pointless?
He was new to the club, had only been Spider-Man for 6 months with zero of the personal tragedy it entails.
He was in Peter's Showbiz saga where it was all fun and games.
>zero personal tragedy in the film
>entire village gets burnt down with no survivors in the comics
>implying they read the comics
Really glad we finally got an official Miles version of Prowler in something
Question, does miles have any original villains? Ones that aren't hand-me-downs from peter?
You'd know if you read any of his run
why the frick would I do that?
You're not a true fan unless you spend hours pouring through dogshit recommendations just so you can talk about 1 panel.
The entirety of Miles' comics are less of a time commitment than the SV movies.
I can tell you right now this is the version of him that prefers prowling for pussy over bussy like his Spider counterpart
So I was kinda confused, it almost seemed like Miguel had slipped into Peter B's universe since it looked like Peter B was with him when the universe collapsed. But then Peter B goes home to his universe at the end, so clearly that wasn't the case.
I think it was just to show that the world collapsing and all that did have various different Spider-Men running to try and help him the same way a bunch of Spider-Men came to help Pavitr's world. It was also probably to show just why Peter was siding with Miguel on this, he watched Miguel's world fall apart firsthand so he knows that the same could happen to Miles' world and he doesn't want that happening. Without that firsthand experience, he probably wouldn't have sided with Miguel.
I guess I figured Miguel didn't form the spider society until after "his" world was destroyed.
When did Miguel’s universe collapse? He could’ve gotten Peter B in the society in the time from the end of ITSV to then, there’s like at least 9 months between the two movies since he has a kid now
I suspect that universes flow at different speeds. Peter's kid had enough hair that she's not some newborn. Probably a year or so old I'd bet.
Did anyone thinks during the ending of the film that Uncle Aaron is going to be the Spider-Man of Miles Universe?
Not really, mainly because I knew that alternate!Miles had to show up sooner or later. And it would be weird for Miles' mom to not know who spiderman was if there was a spiderman.
I just knew there was gonna be something uncle Aaron related with how much he was being brought up, it barely hit me that it’s gonna be evil Miles when he got knocked out while Aaron was standing next to him still
So aside from the fact that Miguel is just wrong and probably in denial, why would Miles' dad "need" to die? Miles already had his Uncle Ben moment with his uncle. He doesn't "need" another one.
I wonder if they'll talk about that in the sequel.
The risk is that the universe become "uncanon" meaning that it gets ejected beyond the spider-verse. Miguel is gonna have a happy ending when he finds out that rejected universes outside the web continue to live peacefully and Madame Web and Totem Spiders were forcing this bullshit.
He was suppose to be the one to get bit by spider-42, not the main miles of 1610.
If we take Miguel at his word, there probably was a Peter Parker of Earth 42 that was supposed to have been bitten.
?
I don’t think so.
Like Gwen’s universe, Peter wasn’t suppose to be the hero of that one.
It was suppose to be 42-Miles.
There's only ONE hero Prowler, and his name is Hobie Brown, THE ORIGINAL
>normalgays will now only know Hobie as that one punk alternate Spider-Man and not Prowler
Given that the spider from E-42 was new it means either:
>Miles 42 was meant to be Spider-Man.
>Peter 42 it's the same age as Miles and Miles 42 was meant to be one of his first villains or never come to be with a safer new york.
If either its the case then NY-42 really went to the shitter in the year and a half it didn't have an Spider-Man.
See
E-42 Miles was meant to be spiderman before "his" spider got plucked away to "our" Miles' universe.
Wouldn't that line up with 1610 Miles being an anomaly then? Considering PS4 Peter has his own Miles with Spider-Powers and the argument being that Dimension Hopping when you're not supposed to be there leads to doom?
Huh ?
Didn't he say "Why would I help you save your father from dying?"
Not very heroish...
Honestly I was thinking he was the one who killed his dad in that dimension
There is a wall painted in his homage just like Miles did to his uncle in 1610B.
>hero version
>doesn't want to let Miles go to save his father
???
He is and they were going after the Sinister Six Cartel (which the TV "conveniently" mentions). This should surprise no one as Hobie AKA Prowler AKA Miles/Uncle has always been a good guy even going back to his first appearance in the 60s. He's always been a what if Peter with even less money. This isn't a shocking or impressive twist.
Miles only real next step up is to become Prowler
Uncle Aaron will be the good guy moron. Have none of you watched a kid's movie before?
Uncle Aaron was literally plotting a robbery with who he thought was his Miles while going up the stairs.
I wouldn't put it past the story having Spider Miles turn Prowler Miles round and help save the spider-verse, but my biggest guess is that Spider-Miles saves his dad, and all the Spider-Men still have to deal with their dead uncles. The writers are set on taking a huge dump on all the Spider-Men to prop up Miles.