>become a rentoid gay after 18
I'm married and we share a large home with my parents. 3 incomes in family and it's pretty comfy. Even with a well paying job I know I'll never buy a house. Maybe learn to be nice to your parents.
I can't swallow my pride. I bailed as soon as I could at 18. At 17 I stopped showing up to school because I realized as long I a walk in every once in a while they can't say I drop out, and as long as I did minimal homework and nailed finals and midterms, all my classes would be a d or c, and I could still take my ap tests and sats, and asvab, which I did. Never went to college though. Took the $17000 my grandfather set up for me in an account the day I was born to put a down deposit on a house and set up a mortgage, and my friends going to school I'd split the rent. Sold the house a year later, bought another one, sold it again and started investing.
We were all looking to rent a house together, realized my credit was good enough to buy a house, and the mortgage would be 70% of local rent prices. I even explained to my friends, their rent payment would be paying for my mortgage, but the house is mine. Everyone was fine with it.
We gave up passing things like intergenerational wealth in order to pass along intergenerational trauma.
Feminism/women voting just utterly rekt the family unit so now we all hate each other because the previous generation failed us so hard. Turns out trying to have a career and a family is just awful for everyone involved.
It starts with circumcision, continues with a lifetime of full on media brainwashing, protestant 'Christianity' and poisoned food and ends where we are now
But anon, you need to make your own way in the world. You need to pay RENT. You need to buy your own TV, your own washing machine. You need to BUY BUY BUY
Consumption is important for the economy
Rent is important for the economy
Not having savings is important for the economy
You wouldn't want to... hurt the economy, would you?
Think I only know one person who had this but it wasn't 18. It was graduation day.
They got locked out of the house the second they tried to come home. Parents didn't even go to the ceremony. They said their gift to them was putting money down for uhaul to either move their shit to their new place or take it to the dump. Friend ended up sleeping around on couches. Wasn't a smart guy, and his folks told him he couldn't get a job in high school because "he would lose focus on studying" if he did. He moved out of the state and is doing better now. I got to talk to his old man who is now a wreck because they did that to the other kids too and he cries about how no one comes to visit him.
Opposite for me, my parents were/are codependent and did everything they could to prevent me from moving out. Used every emotionally manipulative trick in the book.
I was kicked out AND I got that shit. The best thing you can do is cut all contact with them. Even then they will try to find out where you are etc. Parents are the most degenerate things you will ever encounter in your life. Nobody can do as much harm to you. The worst is when it's decided they have authority over you despite being on your own for years. They can't be any more eager to support whatever bullshit authority and agree with them to take charge of your life.
Shit my dad stopped looking me in the eye at 15 because I wasn't christian enigut. Then we had an ugly knife fight, then I moved out for a few years, then we rekindled and I came back and we are on our best terms since I was a toddler, honestly we're best bros by now. I think it helps that he's almost 60 and retired so he's a lot less angry and a lot more patient right now.
I just wish he didn't had the job he had for his entire life, I do believe that was the root of most of the suffering our family endurece.
>become a rentoid gay after 18
I'm married and we share a large home with my parents. 3 incomes in family and it's pretty comfy. Even with a well paying job I know I'll never buy a house. Maybe learn to be nice to your parents.
I love my parents, and i'm glad this works for you but this sounds miserable to me. I need my freedom. A wife and kids is already a privacy and freedom-sucker but including your parents into the mix too just sounds awful
The wealthy do. Mansions and castles certainly weren't built for a single couple each. Yet somehow, the average person became convinced it was shameful to live with family.
>Even with a well paying job I know I'll never buy a house
This, I could stay and work in burgerland but saw how much israelites want for rent and fricked off to EU, I like it here with skinny cute girls with funny accents.
Lived in expensive suburbia, saw only fat women, boomers and brown people. Wanted to live somewhere in the city with girls running around, but it was expensive.
My boomer aunt is buying a house for 60k, she doesnt care about living far away from civilization.
>Even with a well paying job I know I'll never buy a house
This, I could stay and work in burgerland but saw how much israelites want for rent and fricked off to EU, I like it here with skinny cute girls with funny accents.
>I'll never buy a house
things never stay the same so keep stacking your money up and this gay housing market will either go back to normal or crash, we're gonna make it.
My friend's dad did this bullshit. Really destroyed his future as he struggled to make ends meet with some shitty job and an apartment with like 4 roommates, at least his dad got a free room though. Boomers suck so much dick. Sure, in 1960 an 18 year old could move out get a decent salary buy a 5 bedroom house, but they never really learned that they destroyed the American dream and sold their children's future to overseas cheap labor and the migrant hordes.
You see this again when Covid flu made boomers sick for two weeks so we had to shut down the global economy for years to make their lives as comfortable as possible.
My dad did this to me and kicked me out the week or so after my 18th birthday. I was homeless for a while but figured it out and now things are fine, moving across the US with my girlfriend this year even.
I haven't spoken to my dad since it happened a decade ago and my other family members keep telling me he wants to talk to me, lol
Were you a miserable person to live with? I want to hear your dad’s side of things. You always hear “I got kicked out at 18” and never “he left his shitstained underwear all over the house, hardly left his room, and has lost respect for my authority of my house.”
My dad always told me this. It never ended up happening, either to me or my younger siblings, because my parents divorced when I was 16 and by the time I was 18 I was paying all the bills and housing/feeding/clothing my younger siblings, so it wasn't up to him. Some people have genuinely bad fathers. I don't have a single positive memory of mine. I'm 40 now, and I'm still witnessing him do things even within the last week that are beyond the pale of human decency. There is something genuinely wrong with him, and I don't believe he will ever feel an ounce of remorse for the things he's done, because he is incapable of that.
Bro, he had 18 whole fricking years of complete and total control to turn his son into a decent man. It's not a herculean amount of effort to teach a kid basic responsibility and concepts like "jobs keep us afloat", "save a little", "have goals and take care of yourself", "when life pushes you down, get up and throw a punch".
Whatever problem there is it ain't with the kid.
This. If a kid is a dropkick who doesn't leave home and can't hold a job, unless the kid is severely autistic or mentally moronic, it's almost always the parents fault because they didn't raise them properly. Even kids who are autistic or have down syndrome can hold jobs and be somewhat successful if they have good and supportive parents.
Kek this is your brain on boomer bullshit, no self awareness and a real sociopathic self-centered view of everything. Imagine making a kid, raising them and then at the arbitrary age of 18 you make them homeless?
Talk to him. Two rams butting heads because of pride is stupid. Just have a conversation, he'll be glad you called. Just shoot the shit. He won't even bring up problems or whatever. Just shoo5 the shit.
Says someone who doesn't know what it feels like to have someone completely disappear. All you want is to hear they are ok and happy with their life, differences of opinions or lifestyles don't matter.
To be fair, the dad made him go away. If the dad feels remorse the son is not obliged to forgive and forget. In fact, he is well within his rights to simply ignore him and live his life
he didn't disappear, the dad threw him out, he doesn't owe him a relationship ship when he decides he wants one years later, and anon sounds like they're doing just fine without them.
Nah some people genuinely don't care. My mother kicked me out when I was 17. When I was 26 I tried to reconnect and she was just so nasty, reminded me that it's not her responsibility to care about me, mocked me for being slightly overweight despite the fact that she's obese etc. l'm married now with kids. Changed my name after last speaking to her. Moved to a different state. Successful business owner. Lost the weight. Happy. Healthy. She'll never even know she's got grandkids. Some people are c**ts.
If you kick your son out with no money the moment your state-imposed legal responsibility ends, you have effectively disowned them. The thing about people who do that rashly is they never consider that disowning goes both ways.
Why would anyone want to ever associate with such a person? Nobody's butting heads. He's just ignoring an abusive butthole. Not letting them back into your life to hurt you again is the correct choice.
Talk to him. Two rams butting heads because of pride is stupid. Just have a conversation, he'll be glad you called. Just shoot the shit. He won't even bring up problems or whatever. Just shoo5 the shit.
I went on my own and didn't talk to him for years, didn't talk to him for years. But I promise he realizes he was a frick up, and proud to see who you are, and also realizes if you do make contact, it's as a adult friend relationship as opposed to a father son.
Frick him, let the selfish c**t rot. Americans somehow don't realise that children have the legal rights of any tenant and can't be kicked out without notice despite this being explicitly written into their laws
Talk to him. Two rams butting heads because of pride is stupid. Just have a conversation, he'll be glad you called. Just shoot the shit. He won't even bring up problems or whatever. Just shoo5 the shit.
>pride
Yeah refusing to talk to your old landlord who kicked you out without notice because it will make him feel better is 'pride'
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I went on my own and didn't talk to him for years, didn't talk to him for years. But I promise he realizes he was a frick up, and proud to see who you are, and also realizes if you do make contact, it's as a adult friend relationship as opposed to a father son.
>just have an adult friendship with your abusive ex-landlord anon
It would have to be an adult friendship as the old c**t destroyed the familial one. And here's the weird bit moron, the bond you have with your fricking son is meant to be stronger than a friendship
Were you a miserable person to live with? I want to hear your dad’s side of things. You always hear “I got kicked out at 18” and never “he left his shitstained underwear all over the house, hardly left his room, and has lost respect for my authority of my house.”
If he was then it was the old prick's fault you worthless wienersucker, you're just another moron justifying the behaviour of their abuser because you're too fricking cowardly to confront it
Depending on the state you cant just be kicked out, they need to give you an eviction notice 30 days in advance otherwise thry legally cant do anything about it
I moved out at 22 I think.
I genuinely cannot understand a parent “kicking” their kid out of the house before they’d got at least a minimum wage job + apparent; are you expected to be homeless for a while?
This is literally the white boomer mindset. They actively resent their own children for daring to take up their precious time and resources and will constantly act against the interests of their children and act to sabotage their future.
Boomers resent any amount of time and money spent raising their kids. Taking their children to school is wasting their time, buying toys for their children is wasting their money. They all act like someone held a gun to their heads and forced them to have and raise children as an act of torture.
The meaningful version of that question was answered. The person you're talking to may not even be the child of boomer parents who feel as he described. This would change nothing about the truth of what he described, nor his verity in describing this common social phenomenon.
This is true, I remember being a teenager and needing like school supplies that cost like $30 total and my dad getting fricking pissed at me and saying I owed him for it, did the same thing when I needed some impacted wisdom teeth pulled. We weren't even poorgays, he owned 2 different cars, he just hated spending money on me.
Their entire society is fricked. The parents hate their own children and the children also hate their parents. The parents do everything in their power to burn through all their property to leave nothing to their kids too.
Its insane, my grandparents were ww2 vets and their parents lived at their home till they died of senility in their nineties. Boomers are the only people crazy enough to make old people dog kennels and then try to make a profit off it.
They did, my boomer uncle fought with the rest of the family in probate until it had to be sold to pay the bills because he didn't get as much as he wanted (all)
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But you still got something? If so, what did you do with it?
3 weeks ago
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A few grand
3 weeks ago
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And what did you do with it
3 weeks ago
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It was saved until it was used on emergency medical expenses
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My uncle inherited the house my grandmother bought and sold it while we were all still living there. He spent it all on his Filipino lady girlfriend (he's an engineer). If not for my friend I would have legit been homeless and carless with nothing to my name.
My goal in life is to die alone with nobody around especially "family", but not for at least 20 years on the off chance that they show up for my funeral.
I'm not kidding.
It's reasonable to expect if you're a piece of shit son your entire life. If you love and respect your parents, and your blessed to have good loving parents like me, you can probably stay as long as you want. And now that they've currently made it impossible to buy a home, they'll understand if you need to stay. Better than having you move into an apartment and throw thousands of dollars into the trash.
yes it does
my gen x parents booted me, I would've been homeless but they didn't realise I had a girl on the side who'd let me stay with her
I lost my job because of the distance I had to move and turned into a useless junkie
it really fricked up my life >captcha: R2DP
Mine booted because their were tired of her living in my bedroom. Told them ok fine. Said "Girl, were on our own now. There's weekly rates close to suburbs, then we can get a cheap apartment, plus no temptations to the bars we go to." Worked out fine until she caved and started doing hard drugs. I kept the apartment broke up with her and am doing fine. You just sound like a Lil b***h
I didn't expect a goofy comedy to remind me of being a loser
>parents are unreasonably controlling at times >but i cant appeal to my adulthood because im a manchild >get reminded of how successful others my age are
the entire fabric of western social societies are now built around trauma bonds.
This is why I have absolutely zero guilt or shame about isolating myself from the world.
Basically all familial, social and workplace experiences I've had have been a symptom of some kind of trauma bond. People get addicted to these things because they stimulate large amounts of brain chemicals. They then want to reel you into their worldview because it reinforces their twisted meaning they derive from life. Society needs a hard reset.
That he's product of the society he's describing, and thus may benefit from therapy, doesn't change that what he said is true for a great many in the west.
its a relatively new western world thing.
its propaganda spread to keep the housing market afloat.
can't have functioning multi-generational households where (especially white) families thrive and only have one property or one rental place
If you're over the age of 25 and still live with mommy and daddy, then you're a loser. I'm sorry but it's true. You can call it love or support or whatever the frick you want to make yourself feel better, but the truth is you're a fricking loser
It's okay to lose. No one wins life. Pretending otherwise is a cope. Mortality is your reality anon. You can't take anything with you, and you don't get out of life alive.
my mom made me pay rent after i graduated highschool so i moved out to a student apartment
it kicked ass and I could do whatever I wanted instead of having to follow rules and basic human decency
It depends on what they did with the "rent." Sometimes parents just put the money into a separate account and give it back to their kid to use as a down payment on a house, so it's not really rent and instead just a forced savings account.
>dropped out of school due to panic attacks at 17 >lost part-time job shortly after that
I knew my mum was spiteful and uncaring but at this time it became obvious. She told me that I ruined any chance of joy she could have had in life and that she's been waiting nearly 18 years until she could be rid of me and that I need to be gone. She was worried that because of my mental health, she'd be burdened with me for longer so essentially told me to get out immediately or kms.
I was only homeless for a few months before a friend took me in, I got myself together again when I found a job and purpose in life.
That was over a decade ago, I'm proud of what I learned through that and I think that people should aspire to gain independence ASAP but parents should encourage that of their kids and give them the tools they need, rather than forcing it on them for selfish reasons.
It's clear to me now that people who live with their parents for too long are functionally moronic
I wasn't kicked out but was talked to about looking for an apartment when i was 22. Basically it was "when I was the age your are now I was married with two kids" which I never did the math on but I'm pretty sure he wasn't kek. Regardless I was already thinking about moving out even before he brought it up so i had no hard feelings. The wages sucked back then but you could still find an avoidable apartment. Not sure I could do the same now to my kids seeing how expensive it is to rent.
>I'm all that matters
Considering you are a literal continuation of their bloodline yes this is correct. Family is supposed to be one if not the most important thing in people's lives.
Unlike you I have a great relationship with my parents and grandparents. My family is the most important part of my life and I'm the most important part of theirs.
I even got my grandfather to move in with us from another town back in 2020 so we could all stay together and take care of each other.
That being born isn't consensual DOES have moral implications for the expectations placed upon a parent, yes. Bombastically exaggerating won't change this fact.
>continuation of the bloodline
See I've got this solved because I'm not going to.
I don't understand why anyone would have a child when they aren't in the top % of earners and willingly thrust someone into the ever worsening shithole that is the modern economy.
It's cruelty in my eyes.
Also I can barely afford to support myself to begin with.
The government literally gives you free money to raise them. My sister gets over $1,000 a month for her two kids, tax free
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I don't live in the US and I'm not raising a child in abject poverty so they can suffer through the same shit I'm dealing with.
Who in their right mind would?
3 weeks ago
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Sorry you're a poverty gay. Ever try getting a job?
3 weeks ago
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>speedreader
3 weeks ago
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So no, got it
3 weeks ago
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>doubling down after being called a moron
Lmao
3 weeks ago
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>still haven't answered if you have a job or not
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>speedreader intentionally being moronic
3 weeks ago
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So no, got it
3 weeks ago
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>speedreader concedes that he is too dumb and is going to die on this hill instead of reading thoroughly
I accept your concession
3 weeks ago
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Loser. Go get a job you fricking bum
3 weeks ago
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Not him but you're the loser without a job
>ESLs that can't read
Lmao
3 weeks ago
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Not him but you're the loser without a job
Getting paid to perform a task doesn't fill that empty space in you two, and we can all see it. It doesn't make you better than the person you feel you are deep down. You're coping (and failing).
It's entirely possible to be dirt poor with a happy family. Maybe your value are just shit.
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>It's entirely possible to be dirt poor with a happy family
Said like someone who has never dealt with financial difficulties
3 weeks ago
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So yeah your values are just shit.
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Ironically, I think poor families are generally much happier than rich families. When will this stupid board realize that money doesn't buy happiness?
3 weeks ago
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Money does buy happiness up to a certain threshold
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Yeah and that threshold is relatively low, like $70,000. Even blue collar gays make that much
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That's greater than the average salary in the US
3 weeks ago
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Then get a better salary. Better yet, leave your bedroom and find a partner who can help
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>durrr money can't buy you happiness! >yes it can >oh well its only up to 70k most people can get that! >actually they cant and its significantly above the average >uhhhh well if two of you put your money together you might be there!
how many more goalpost shifts?
3 weeks ago
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Yes. Most people find partners and put their money to buy happiness. That's how life generally works
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Most people get a divorce after divorce and no amount of shit they buy fills the emptiness inside
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Wrong. Half of all married couples stay married. Nice cope though
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yeah and half get divorced you fricking idiot what's your point
You used to be able to buy a house off a lemonade stand and now you need a double income both working two jobs to afford to rent, unless you lucked out and were born to parents with money who passed on the ability to generate wealth
Otherwise you're shit out of luck unless you magically figure it out before you reach the age of worthlessness to society as a male
Your opinion is stupid and israeli
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>You used to be able to buy a house off a lemonade stand
No you couldn't
>you need a double income both working two jobs to afford to rent
No you don't
3 weeks ago
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You're dumb.
3 weeks ago
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You're an exaggerating homosexual
3 weeks ago
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I didn't type the comment that you replied to. The exaggerations are meant to be taken AS exaggerations. He wasn't genuinely positing those statements as facts at face value. The point is that purchasing power used to be staggeringly better, and housing much more affordable.
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Ironically, I think poor families are generally much happier than rich families. When will this stupid board realize that money doesn't buy happiness?
I don't think anyone would deny that if you game a family in poverty the finance and aid to help them pay all their bills, food and some more stuff it would make them more happy.
But like you said, after you got all the necessities, needs and some money over for entertainment the diminishing return in "happiness" will pretty much disappear.
Buying a fancier TV, car, computer or whatever might be fun and exciting initially but that will wear down super fast and pretty much be the same as consuming your old stuff after a while.
This is an exaggeration of the points being made ITT. However, if you get to 30 living with parents and end up like that, that's inexorably your parents' doing and while I wouldn't expect such incompetents to handle the consequences of 30 years worth pf their own actions with any skill or grace, the rational and reasonable onlooker can't blame the offspring in cases like this.
If a person is a shut in loser DESPITE excellent parenting, then we can look at the individual. But how you raise a child determines how that child grows into an adult. Many parents' parenting is what produces shut in losers. In those cases, it would be the mother and father's fault. This isn't an opinion.
Americans got atomized to be the perfect goy cattle. >Hate their parents >Hate their kids >Forced into debt as early as 18
It's all a israeli scam to ruin any chance of piling up generational wealth, consequently perpetuating existing elites. But if you explain this to them they'll call you communist.
It's ok anon. It takes years of childhood development to understand concepts like time and geography and why they might influence something like posts on the internet. You'll get there, if your parents don't kick you out soon.
Because for americans this is as normal as getting a piece of your dick chopped off after being born. They don't even realize how much they are being fricked over by the israelites
You guys seriously think this an American only thing? In most of Europe you're considered an adult at like 14 and most leave the house by 18. Let's not pretend that everyone is living in beautiful family units outside of Italy, which is full of incest anyway
the one that always makes me laugh is shitty parents whining about kids growing up and not knowing basic a shit like how to cook proper food for themselves, as if they would just wake up knowing how one day and they weren't supposed to teach them.
when did I say I can't cook or take care of myself, projecting much? I just said it's hilarious when parents whine about their kids knowing x/y/z when they were the ones that failed to raise them.
That's besides the point being made. Not being taught doesn't necessarily justify the child not having basic cooking skills later in life. It DOES necessarily revoke the right of a parent, who didn't teach such skills, to complain about the absence of those skills in their kids/kids generally when they grow up.
And to be clear, basic life skills (cooking, cleaning, self care, financial competence, disciplining women (for boy)/obeying men (for girls) are a distinct subset of the category of "things you can learn in life", for which parents do have a primary duty in a child's upbringing.
>have kids because you want to have kids for your own self satisfaction >once the honeymoon period with the kids you brought into this world outside of their choice ends throw them out at the earliest chance >somehow able to live with yourself
I can't understand it
it doesn't work if they never get a chance because you're an abusive piece of shit that makes sure your kids think they're worthless, then terf em anyway
which is what gen xers tend to do
At 18 you're an adult. You should be capable of moving out at least by 22. Why would it take longer than that? Get a job. Why should they bankroll your life forever? Parasite.
>With the expectation that they would eventually grow up and become a big boy
You can't just "expect" things and then they magically happen. That's childish thinking. For things you expect to happen, you have to manually put in the place and maintain the conditions that make such an expectation rational. If you fail to do this (even if you "try" and fail), then the expectation not realizing isn't the fault of anything or anyone but you.
I didn't say you couldn't. You clipped a sentence fragment which, presented alone, completely alters the meaning of what I said.
You can absolutely "just expect things" til the cows (the women in your family) come home. That you EXPECT things bears no relation to their fruition. Resenting things not happening when all you did was expect them but not act effectively to make them happen, is immature. The resentment carries no dignity or respectability, as it would in the case where you did everything you could to, say, raise a decent and competent child, and they still turned out to be, say, like you.
>mom lives in the countryside >in a big house all by herself >my grandparents died not that long ago (her parents) >after that happened she doesn't have too many people in her life >doesn't want to move out from her house as she lived there most of the life and like the country life >so after I moved out she now lives alone in a big house with empty rooms all by herself >I can't really visit her that often
I'm 31 and feeling kind of bad for moving out. Will make sure I visit her often tho whenever I can.
If I had a driver license and my own car I would probably move back in just for her sake.
>people talking about moving out when in the last 15 years in my country price of houses has increased by 400% compared to earnings over that time >rental properties are priced to the point where even on the average salary with cost of living you will never be able to save up enough to get a mortgage on a house >the norm is now people living with parents until up to almost their thirties because of how unaffordable it all is
its all so tiresome
I knew an adopted kid whose "parents" left for a month-long vacation on his 18th birthday without letting him know ahead of time, and left him a note saying basically "Happy 18th birthday, time to move out. You need to be gone when we get back."
To this day it might be the most psychopathic shit I've ever seen.
It comes back around. Now my parents are elderly and need me to live. They both have dementia so I have to take care of everything. It's only fair that I care for them. I got to live at home whenever I wanted and they paid my insurance and phone bills and helped with rent for decades. I'm gonna inherit the shit anyway, may as well let them live out their final days in the comforts of home with good food and family. Everything is delivered and I get to be stoned as a mother all day. They took care of me and now it's my turn to return the favor. Only fair. Hopefully the same happens for me when I'm 90.
>me and most of my friends and people my age moved out when we were 18-23 years old >everyone is struggling to make ends meet >most have shitty jobs even after finishing engineering degrees >only the kid who was literally given a house and a mercedes is doing alright >one of my friends killed himself by driving his motorcycle into incoming traffic and hit a truck head on >my parents give me $15 a week as “support” while I have $250 to live on after paying rent and I have to pay all my insurances and phone bill myself (they pay it for my brother because he is their favourite child)
Gen x are no better than boomers
My boomer grandparents on both sides of the family shower my cousins in gifts and money while I get nothing even though I'm the only grandchild who shows up to their birthdays…
No I'm still in college. My friends who finished their degrees before me have not managed to find fulltime jobs and have to take part time or even shitty internships
I'm lucky to have loving and understanding parents who understand my situation and delayed development. I'm not a tard or anything, just have always had issues concentrating, following orders correctly and keeping up at the same pace as other kids. Most of my friends already have their shit together at my age and are making good money at a qualified job, while I'm only just starting university now. I have no reason to move out, i can't afford it and there's no pressure to leave... but I'd still like to do it, just for that extra freedom and i can feel a bit more accomplished with my life
I always admired those cultures where 3 or 4 generations all lived together in a big house. Might be stressful at times, but it also seems kinda comfy.
My mum is starting to resent me and see me as a burden, i'm pretty sure. Conversations about "looking for work" and what my general life plan is coming up more and more frequently since I turned 22.
She's a good parent though so I have at least been looking around for work and considering studying. The job market sucks ass right now for someone in my shoes
>The job market sucks ass right now for someone in my shoes
Unemployment is 3%. Walk into a retail establishment of your choosing and ask for an application.
I've tried literally everywhere from retail to hospitality. I'm competing with hundreds of people, many of them are like 15 year olds too. I botched life and work, that's why I'm going to university so I can at least be qualified at SOMETHING
I've had jobs at those places and quit when I was like 16. I thought at the time I was destined for better things. Now they won't hire me back. Did you not read the part where I said i BOTCHED my career?
There are tens of millions of businesses in the US.
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1. I am Australian 2. Black person stop speedreading and listen to me. I am competing for work with literally hundreds if not thousands of other wagies in my area all also looking to get their foot in the door.
If you casually mention it, that reaction will be minimal.
If you're obviously making the purchase itself the subject of your post, as a "look at my shiny rock, where's your shiny rock?" move, yes people will pick up on the ill-will and dishonesty of such a post and react negatively.
Such a strong reaction ("about 40 anons get frickin furious") is garnered by some degree of dick behaviour on the part of the poster. Sadly many aren't self aware, and don't even recognize their own motivations when doing this, and so get genuinely confused by negative reactions, and mistakenly ascribe them to "jealousy/haters/butthurt poorgays", etc.
I'm in Canada, it's even worse than the states. They imported 5 million new people in the last few years and haven't built any homes, so on-top of a housing crises there's now also a surplus of street shitters who are comfortable sleeping 10 people to a single room like it's barracks.
No shit I live with my parents, virtually everyone I know does that.
They'll also work shit conditions for shit wages and just do what they're told without dignity. And then when one of them gets in the hiring position, they only hire their own people or worse. I saw a White girl working at Tim's once a few weeks ago and I was taken aback.
I wanted to get a comfy office job, but virtually nobody is hiring. And I don't want to work a trade or join the oil fields. And I can't wrap my head around math for computers.
So I'm 27 and I'm going back to college to study nursing. It's the only thing in demand that pays well.
Im actually really racist towards Indians at this point. I moved to my super small home town and saw a handful of them around and I got pissed off just from the sight.
B2B sales anon. Find a corporate sales gig with no cold calling. It’s comfy as frick and you really don’t have to work hard unless you’re a total moron
They'll also work shit conditions for shit wages and just do what they're told without dignity. And then when one of them gets in the hiring position, they only hire their own people or worse. I saw a White girl working at Tim's once a few weeks ago and I was taken aback.
If you look at the conditions jeets grew up in in their home country, having 20 people crammed into a small apartment is quite spacious for them.
No, but it was an honest question, and I wasn't trying to insult you or anyone else that does relate. Why do you feel the need to be snarky and project?
right, likely because many adult posters on Cinemaphile still live at home with their parents, which is why these types of threads tend to attract so many posters
Everyone I've known went to college at 18 anyways. Maybe trailer trash tradies would kick their kids out but they most likely just rented out the neighboring trailer or something
Boomers should have been genocided years ago before they could fundamentally destroy society.
> im gonna moooooove to florida to retire then whine about how much i miss my grandkids who i moooooooved so far away from. also i took out a reverse mortgage on the house, the bank is my family now, frick you frick you. also i am voting for bigger government and more medicare so that i can live to be 105 in sheer agony
I love my dad even though he wasn't there in my teenage years. However I think if I ever have kids I'll try to hold the family together until they're all 18+. Dads moving out when a boy is young is fricking up our society so much it's unreal.
Americans throw their kids out on the street at 18. As a result, their kids throw them in a retirement home when they get old, instead of taking care of them. You reap what you sow I guess
I can’t believe thirdies still fall for this fake webm. Evicting someone takes weeks at
minimum and you can’t even begin the process until that person turns 18
Canadian. Mom was doting, but really only able to look after herself (and that's a stretch tbh) after the divorce, Dad was basically absent since he worked 60+ hours a week and the only family time he cared about was church, holiday meals, and forcing my sister and I to do things he liked instead of taking an interest in our hobbies; I learned how to disassociate at-will because until I turned 16 or 17, I wasn't allowed to go do anything else after church besides listen to him prattle on about a forty year old car I would never drive.
To the old man's credit, he never hit me without a damned good reason (usually a swift kick in the ass, and that was all), adequately provided, and dropped any psycho b***h that tried to break up what was left of our family, but I had to learn everything I know about being an adult pretty much by myself because he's married to his job.
I absolutely don't hate him, but it's hard to feel much of anything besides a gratitude that grows fainter with every year spent independent of him; I sometimes feel bad about it, but I've accepted that we're totally different and he just doesn't have room in his life for anything besides work, a woman he tolerates for sex, and his current obsession (motorcycles).
>I will fail as a parent to prepare you for the world >I delude myself into thinking the world is exactly the same as it was when I was a child >GET THE FRICK OUT A SUPPORT YOURSELF THE SECOND WHEN YOU TURN 18
This shit is why I hate people older than me.
So what happened? America has infinite space and endless resources. Somehow boomers turned the land of infinity into a Ponzi pyramid scheme where they own everything and everyone born after gets an incrementally smaller piece. And now boomers own 50% of the wealth and zoomers and millenials own 5%
We already have more empty houses than homeless, we have plenty of empty land to build homes. But boomers refuse to allow that because they bought a house and DEMAND that they flip their land for 10x it's value despite making no significant renovations besides replacing the counter tops....
Scarce housing drives up the cost of housing, and for most middle class people, especially those of retirement age, their home represents the bulk of their net worth. It shouldn't surprise you that people NIMBY their way into increasing the value of their homes.
I came back to live with my parents from ages 22-26 - which also coincided with the pandemic - and it sucked, man. I felt like a child. A prisoner in my own home.
My dad kicked me out when I was 18, I struggled financially and lived in my car until I got ahead, he never helped me my entire life, If I needed to borrow 20 bucks for gas I would have to pay back 25, meanwhile he was living the high life, until he lost his good job before covid and my mom died and now he cant pay his bills because he never saved a penny his entire boomer life, now he's begging me for money or for him to move into my place or vice versa, I'm going to take great joy in seeing his pathetic selfish ass become homeless, I'm going to find out what sidewalk he's living on so I can laugh at him.
It happened to me so frick yourself. This is a very standard, white person problem. Minorities actually support their families through the generations. White people kick their kids out at 18, blow their inheritance on bullshit retirement travel and then dare to question why no one visits them in the old folks home. White people, specifically white people that breed are inherently selfish.
>Minorities actually support their families through the generations.
You're confusing a child living with their grandparents because the dad is in jail as "helping families through the generations"
Ive been on my own since i was 26. It was a good decision on my part since i wanted to get away from my shitty aunt. Thing is, the past few places i have lived sucked ass. It really is a b***h being on your own, especially in this fricking shitshow of an economy. Hell, i have people hitting me up for money and thats it. Im at that point where i just want to cut everyone off, save up, and go somewhere far away.
My mom told me she could move out at 16 and work part time as a waitress and still make rent. Fricking pisses me off how I can work $5 over the min wage full time and still can't afford to live with roommates in some shitty basement.
My parents are kind though, and understand it's a different time and are chill with me living with them. I'm 27 and after failing to get into programming and marketing I'm just going to go into nursing since it's the most stable job in this shit economy.
This entire thread is full of bots trying to get you to hate your family and the principles of the US/western culture. It's done by China and Russia to enfeeble us (by causing mental health crises) before a potential war.
Critically evaluate anonymous posts. This is, and has been happening for some time.
No anon, it's done by israelites. Who do you think makes the movies that glorify broken families, and who owns the money printers and the housing and the banks?
Regardless of the reason, shitty parents exist and growing up in the small town with parents who have done way worse shit than what anons here have posted. It's all real and it's an epidemic. Parents in the US are notoriously shitty and treat their kids like employees they can fire and kick out.
>buy a car with the money you make mowing lawns, shovelling snow and delivering papers >ask a girl out to the prom and marry her later >buy a house with a white picket fence on the salary of the job you got after graduating high school
Please explain how this was possible
isn't a bit too late for europeans?
europeans get unemployment benefits
You can literally live at home as long as you want, the only thing that happens is your dad stops looking you in the eye.
I'm 30 still living at home and me and my dad are absolute bros
I wish my dad wasn't such a piece of shit.
Based
Absolute bums* sorry typo
You're trans, btw.
My parents want me to move home. I'm considering it after next year.
What if you never had a dad?
Having a place to live is worth swallowing my pride.
I can't swallow my pride. I bailed as soon as I could at 18. At 17 I stopped showing up to school because I realized as long I a walk in every once in a while they can't say I drop out, and as long as I did minimal homework and nailed finals and midterms, all my classes would be a d or c, and I could still take my ap tests and sats, and asvab, which I did. Never went to college though. Took the $17000 my grandfather set up for me in an account the day I was born to put a down deposit on a house and set up a mortgage, and my friends going to school I'd split the rent. Sold the house a year later, bought another one, sold it again and started investing.
the landlord profits propertionally to the disservice he does the community
We were all looking to rent a house together, realized my credit was good enough to buy a house, and the mortgage would be 70% of local rent prices. I even explained to my friends, their rent payment would be paying for my mortgage, but the house is mine. Everyone was fine with it.
Meant for
To add, I even offered to let them sign on with me with no collateral but they wouldn't commit to an investment.
you were really lucky
Burgers and their hate for their own family members is something I'll never understand.
americans are hateful people in general. nothing to understand.
We gave up passing things like intergenerational wealth in order to pass along intergenerational trauma.
Feminism/women voting just utterly rekt the family unit so now we all hate each other because the previous generation failed us so hard. Turns out trying to have a career and a family is just awful for everyone involved.
>intergenerational trauma
Meaningless buzzword. Go back to r*ddit you fricking homosexual
>cycles of abuse don’t exist
You got so triggered by a word you resorted to your moron state
Not being able to afford a house while your parents could is not abuse
No it didn't. You all just have brainrot from corn syrup and lead paint.
It starts with circumcision, continues with a lifetime of full on media brainwashing, protestant 'Christianity' and poisoned food and ends where we are now
But anon, you need to make your own way in the world. You need to pay RENT. You need to buy your own TV, your own washing machine. You need to BUY BUY BUY
Consumption is important for the economy
Rent is important for the economy
Not having savings is important for the economy
You wouldn't want to... hurt the economy, would you?
Kek, this triggered all the losers. Look at all those replies
Not a single triggered reply though. Interesting.
Think I only know one person who had this but it wasn't 18. It was graduation day.
They got locked out of the house the second they tried to come home. Parents didn't even go to the ceremony. They said their gift to them was putting money down for uhaul to either move their shit to their new place or take it to the dump. Friend ended up sleeping around on couches. Wasn't a smart guy, and his folks told him he couldn't get a job in high school because "he would lose focus on studying" if he did. He moved out of the state and is doing better now. I got to talk to his old man who is now a wreck because they did that to the other kids too and he cries about how no one comes to visit him.
KEK you love to see these parents end up sad and alone.
>lock people out of their own home with zero warning
>shocked that they don't want to visit
Opposite for me, my parents were/are codependent and did everything they could to prevent me from moving out. Used every emotionally manipulative trick in the book.
I was kicked out AND I got that shit. The best thing you can do is cut all contact with them. Even then they will try to find out where you are etc. Parents are the most degenerate things you will ever encounter in your life. Nobody can do as much harm to you. The worst is when it's decided they have authority over you despite being on your own for years. They can't be any more eager to support whatever bullshit authority and agree with them to take charge of your life.
I'm very lucky I'm loved I guess
Shit my dad stopped looking me in the eye at 15 because I wasn't christian enigut. Then we had an ugly knife fight, then I moved out for a few years, then we rekindled and I came back and we are on our best terms since I was a toddler, honestly we're best bros by now. I think it helps that he's almost 60 and retired so he's a lot less angry and a lot more patient right now.
I just wish he didn't had the job he had for his entire life, I do believe that was the root of most of the suffering our family endurece.
he never did anyway
>jews run hollywood
>jews are also landlords
>become a rentoid gay after 18
I'm married and we share a large home with my parents. 3 incomes in family and it's pretty comfy. Even with a well paying job I know I'll never buy a house. Maybe learn to be nice to your parents.
Your parents being sane, intelligent, moral, and emotionally mature are also all factors to some degree.
I love my parents, and i'm glad this works for you but this sounds miserable to me. I need my freedom. A wife and kids is already a privacy and freedom-sucker but including your parents into the mix too just sounds awful
yeah who the frick wants to screw their partner with their parents in the same house?
The wealthy do. Mansions and castles certainly weren't built for a single couple each. Yet somehow, the average person became convinced it was shameful to live with family.
sure, bud
>Even with a well paying job I know I'll never buy a house
This, I could stay and work in burgerland but saw how much israelites want for rent and fricked off to EU, I like it here with skinny cute girls with funny accents.
Are you only doing minimum wage or do you live in an expensive area? There are houses for 60k where I live
Lived in expensive suburbia, saw only fat women, boomers and brown people. Wanted to live somewhere in the city with girls running around, but it was expensive.
My boomer aunt is buying a house for 60k, she doesnt care about living far away from civilization.
They get cheaper in small cties. Saw one for 15k once
>I'll never buy a house
things never stay the same so keep stacking your money up and this gay housing market will either go back to normal or crash, we're gonna make it.
My friend's dad did this bullshit. Really destroyed his future as he struggled to make ends meet with some shitty job and an apartment with like 4 roommates, at least his dad got a free room though. Boomers suck so much dick. Sure, in 1960 an 18 year old could move out get a decent salary buy a 5 bedroom house, but they never really learned that they destroyed the American dream and sold their children's future to overseas cheap labor and the migrant hordes.
You see this again when Covid flu made boomers sick for two weeks so we had to shut down the global economy for years to make their lives as comfortable as possible.
My dad did this to me and kicked me out the week or so after my 18th birthday. I was homeless for a while but figured it out and now things are fine, moving across the US with my girlfriend this year even.
I haven't spoken to my dad since it happened a decade ago and my other family members keep telling me he wants to talk to me, lol
Were you a miserable person to live with? I want to hear your dad’s side of things. You always hear “I got kicked out at 18” and never “he left his shitstained underwear all over the house, hardly left his room, and has lost respect for my authority of my house.”
My dad had been telling me he was gonna kick me out at 18 since I was a little kid so I don't think it was because I was a bad roommate.
My dad always told me this. It never ended up happening, either to me or my younger siblings, because my parents divorced when I was 16 and by the time I was 18 I was paying all the bills and housing/feeding/clothing my younger siblings, so it wasn't up to him. Some people have genuinely bad fathers. I don't have a single positive memory of mine. I'm 40 now, and I'm still witnessing him do things even within the last week that are beyond the pale of human decency. There is something genuinely wrong with him, and I don't believe he will ever feel an ounce of remorse for the things he's done, because he is incapable of that.
>I'm still witnessing him do things even within the last week that are beyond the pale of human decency
story time, anon
Bro, he had 18 whole fricking years of complete and total control to turn his son into a decent man. It's not a herculean amount of effort to teach a kid basic responsibility and concepts like "jobs keep us afloat", "save a little", "have goals and take care of yourself", "when life pushes you down, get up and throw a punch".
Whatever problem there is it ain't with the kid.
>timmy, the israelites are are trying to integrate your school
This. If a kid is a dropkick who doesn't leave home and can't hold a job, unless the kid is severely autistic or mentally moronic, it's almost always the parents fault because they didn't raise them properly. Even kids who are autistic or have down syndrome can hold jobs and be somewhat successful if they have good and supportive parents.
Kek this is your brain on boomer bullshit, no self awareness and a real sociopathic self-centered view of everything. Imagine making a kid, raising them and then at the arbitrary age of 18 you make them homeless?
Does he declare you as a dependent or pay for your bills?
No, no support.
Talk to him. Two rams butting heads because of pride is stupid. Just have a conversation, he'll be glad you called. Just shoot the shit. He won't even bring up problems or whatever. Just shoo5 the shit.
It's literally not his problem. He's doing fine without him it seems.
Why? I don't really want to and don't see any benefit.
what a moron.
Says someone who doesn't know what it feels like to have someone completely disappear. All you want is to hear they are ok and happy with their life, differences of opinions or lifestyles don't matter.
To be fair, the dad made him go away. If the dad feels remorse the son is not obliged to forgive and forget. In fact, he is well within his rights to simply ignore him and live his life
Valid.
he didn't disappear, the dad threw him out, he doesn't owe him a relationship ship when he decides he wants one years later, and anon sounds like they're doing just fine without them.
Nah some people genuinely don't care. My mother kicked me out when I was 17. When I was 26 I tried to reconnect and she was just so nasty, reminded me that it's not her responsibility to care about me, mocked me for being slightly overweight despite the fact that she's obese etc. l'm married now with kids. Changed my name after last speaking to her. Moved to a different state. Successful business owner. Lost the weight. Happy. Healthy. She'll never even know she's got grandkids. Some people are c**ts.
If you kick your son out with no money the moment your state-imposed legal responsibility ends, you have effectively disowned them. The thing about people who do that rashly is they never consider that disowning goes both ways.
Seriously though have a nice day.
You are the butthole and yes you should have a nice day.
>just forgive people who have wronged you and show no remorse
Yeah no
Why would anyone want to ever associate with such a person? Nobody's butting heads. He's just ignoring an abusive butthole. Not letting them back into your life to hurt you again is the correct choice.
Dont ever talk to him again. He wanted to prove a point, now its your turn.
See
I went on my own and didn't talk to him for years, didn't talk to him for years. But I promise he realizes he was a frick up, and proud to see who you are, and also realizes if you do make contact, it's as a adult friend relationship as opposed to a father son.
Talk to him and let the anger and frustration turn into a passionate night of sex.
Frick him, let the selfish c**t rot. Americans somehow don't realise that children have the legal rights of any tenant and can't be kicked out without notice despite this being explicitly written into their laws
>pride
Yeah refusing to talk to your old landlord who kicked you out without notice because it will make him feel better is 'pride'
>just have an adult friendship with your abusive ex-landlord anon
It would have to be an adult friendship as the old c**t destroyed the familial one. And here's the weird bit moron, the bond you have with your fricking son is meant to be stronger than a friendship
If he was then it was the old prick's fault you worthless wienersucker, you're just another moron justifying the behaviour of their abuser because you're too fricking cowardly to confront it
>t. internet tough guy
I can tell your weak girly wrists got tired just from typing all that lmao
did you come here from twitter
Jesus, you didn't even try to refute anything. That's taking "homosexual" to new, unexplored heights.
refute what? I'm not who you were speaking to and you talk like a small teenager who uses Twitter, it's embarrassing
Depending on the state you cant just be kicked out, they need to give you an eviction notice 30 days in advance otherwise thry legally cant do anything about it
quit being a spoiled BRAT and talk to your father
I want to hear his side of the story.
My dad literally said this to me, and followed through.
Jews want to trick people into their debt trap.
I moved out at 22 I think.
I genuinely cannot understand a parent “kicking” their kid out of the house before they’d got at least a minimum wage job + apparent; are you expected to be homeless for a while?
This is literally the white boomer mindset. They actively resent their own children for daring to take up their precious time and resources and will constantly act against the interests of their children and act to sabotage their future.
Elaborate. What resources are you taking up that they are mad about, and what are you doing with said resources?
Boomers resent any amount of time and money spent raising their kids. Taking their children to school is wasting their time, buying toys for their children is wasting their money. They all act like someone held a gun to their heads and forced them to have and raise children as an act of torture.
I said you. Your situation
The meaningful version of that question was answered. The person you're talking to may not even be the child of boomer parents who feel as he described. This would change nothing about the truth of what he described, nor his verity in describing this common social phenomenon.
This is true, I remember being a teenager and needing like school supplies that cost like $30 total and my dad getting fricking pissed at me and saying I owed him for it, did the same thing when I needed some impacted wisdom teeth pulled. We weren't even poorgays, he owned 2 different cars, he just hated spending money on me.
Sounds like a narcissist
do americans really throw their parents to die in a nursing home? do they just throw you away and forgot about you?
Their entire society is fricked. The parents hate their own children and the children also hate their parents. The parents do everything in their power to burn through all their property to leave nothing to their kids too.
You're describing boomers, a lot of them were uniquely terrible. That's not every American family.
I know plenty of Gen X parents behaving in the exact same way and I'm sure millennial parents will be the same.
Its insane, my grandparents were ww2 vets and their parents lived at their home till they died of senility in their nineties. Boomers are the only people crazy enough to make old people dog kennels and then try to make a profit off it.
Why didn't they leave it to you or your parents?
They did, my boomer uncle fought with the rest of the family in probate until it had to be sold to pay the bills because he didn't get as much as he wanted (all)
But you still got something? If so, what did you do with it?
A few grand
And what did you do with it
It was saved until it was used on emergency medical expenses
My uncle inherited the house my grandmother bought and sold it while we were all still living there. He spent it all on his Filipino lady girlfriend (he's an engineer). If not for my friend I would have legit been homeless and carless with nothing to my name.
My goal in life is to die alone with nobody around especially "family", but not for at least 20 years on the off chance that they show up for my funeral.
I'm not kidding.
Show of hands, how many people in America living a NEET life without their parents hating them and it's the most viable option while you save money?
nursing home is literally only for the last few years of your life when you cant safely live alone
Yes.
It depends. I’m not going to do them like that because they did a lot for me in my fricked up NEET ways.
It's reasonable to expect if you're a piece of shit son your entire life. If you love and respect your parents, and your blessed to have good loving parents like me, you can probably stay as long as you want. And now that they've currently made it impossible to buy a home, they'll understand if you need to stay. Better than having you move into an apartment and throw thousands of dollars into the trash.
its a sign of a wealthier society for people to live independently at younger age
Good goyim. Reject family embrace being a debt slave
Your parents want you out so they can frick in the kitchen again
yes it does
my gen x parents booted me, I would've been homeless but they didn't realise I had a girl on the side who'd let me stay with her
I lost my job because of the distance I had to move and turned into a useless junkie
it really fricked up my life
>captcha: R2DP
Mine booted because their were tired of her living in my bedroom. Told them ok fine. Said "Girl, were on our own now. There's weekly rates close to suburbs, then we can get a cheap apartment, plus no temptations to the bars we go to." Worked out fine until she caved and started doing hard drugs. I kept the apartment broke up with her and am doing fine. You just sound like a Lil b***h
ok moron, you know everything and whatever you say is what happened and you're right no matter what
I didn't expect a goofy comedy to remind me of being a loser
>parents are unreasonably controlling at times
>but i cant appeal to my adulthood because im a manchild
>get reminded of how successful others my age are
the entire fabric of western social societies are now built around trauma bonds.
This is why I have absolutely zero guilt or shame about isolating myself from the world.
Basically all familial, social and workplace experiences I've had have been a symptom of some kind of trauma bond. People get addicted to these things because they stimulate large amounts of brain chemicals. They then want to reel you into their worldview because it reinforces their twisted meaning they derive from life. Society needs a hard reset.
America isn't 'western society' moron, it's an experiment gone horribly fricking wrong
I'm glad someone else has noticed that.
see a therapist
That he's product of the society he's describing, and thus may benefit from therapy, doesn't change that what he said is true for a great many in the west.
>it's... le true
oh okay
Yep. You're welcome to cry about it but I'm afraid I'm all out of tissues.
Is it true that burgers only allow their children to live at home if they pay rent?
its a relatively new western world thing.
its propaganda spread to keep the housing market afloat.
can't have functioning multi-generational households where (especially white) families thrive and only have one property or one rental place
If you're over the age of 25 and still live with mommy and daddy, then you're a loser. I'm sorry but it's true. You can call it love or support or whatever the frick you want to make yourself feel better, but the truth is you're a fricking loser
It's okay to lose. No one wins life. Pretending otherwise is a cope. Mortality is your reality anon. You can't take anything with you, and you don't get out of life alive.
my mom made me pay rent after i graduated highschool so i moved out to a student apartment
it kicked ass and I could do whatever I wanted instead of having to follow rules and basic human decency
t. swede
>my mom made me pay rent after i graduated highschool
This is so israeli.
why shouldn't a grown ass man help pay for living costs?
His parents aren't israeli?
It depends on what they did with the "rent." Sometimes parents just put the money into a separate account and give it back to their kid to use as a down payment on a house, so it's not really rent and instead just a forced savings account.
This never happens. Anyone israeliteing their kids is absolutely using the money.
>dropped out of school due to panic attacks at 17
>lost part-time job shortly after that
I knew my mum was spiteful and uncaring but at this time it became obvious. She told me that I ruined any chance of joy she could have had in life and that she's been waiting nearly 18 years until she could be rid of me and that I need to be gone. She was worried that because of my mental health, she'd be burdened with me for longer so essentially told me to get out immediately or kms.
I was only homeless for a few months before a friend took me in, I got myself together again when I found a job and purpose in life.
That was over a decade ago, I'm proud of what I learned through that and I think that people should aspire to gain independence ASAP but parents should encourage that of their kids and give them the tools they need, rather than forcing it on them for selfish reasons.
It's clear to me now that people who live with their parents for too long are functionally moronic
She deserved her privacy and kicking your useless ass out is the only way you would have learned
gaslighting psycho-bots need to be banned.
You've probably experienced violence in your life. And I'm glad you did.
You deserved what was done to you anon, every single second of it
my dad kicked me out at 18. i moved interstate and now ten years later im back to living with my mom.
I wasn't kicked out but was talked to about looking for an apartment when i was 22. Basically it was "when I was the age your are now I was married with two kids" which I never did the math on but I'm pretty sure he wasn't kek. Regardless I was already thinking about moving out even before he brought it up so i had no hard feelings. The wages sucked back then but you could still find an avoidable apartment. Not sure I could do the same now to my kids seeing how expensive it is to rent.
Yall homies need therapy
Is Cinemaphile the whiniest board on this site? God damn what a bunch of crybabies.
>buuuuuuuh my daddy wanted me out of the house when I was 30 because he was tired of paying for my food and video games!!!
>abandoning family is actually a good thing, stop complaining about it dumb goyim
>why yes, I much leech off my aging parents well into my 30s, they don't deserve time or privacy as I am all that matters
>I'm all that matters
Considering you are a literal continuation of their bloodline yes this is correct. Family is supposed to be one if not the most important thing in people's lives.
Oh so you ARE a selfish dickhead who is owed everything in life because you "never asked to be born", got it
Unlike you I have a great relationship with my parents and grandparents. My family is the most important part of my life and I'm the most important part of theirs.
I even got my grandfather to move in with us from another town back in 2020 so we could all stay together and take care of each other.
Jesus, you all suck each other's dicks too?
That being born isn't consensual DOES have moral implications for the expectations placed upon a parent, yes. Bombastically exaggerating won't change this fact.
>continuation of the bloodline
See I've got this solved because I'm not going to.
I don't understand why anyone would have a child when they aren't in the top % of earners and willingly thrust someone into the ever worsening shithole that is the modern economy.
It's cruelty in my eyes.
Also I can barely afford to support myself to begin with.
>can't afford it
This wouldn't be a thing if multigenerational homes were a thing.
The government literally gives you free money to raise them. My sister gets over $1,000 a month for her two kids, tax free
I don't live in the US and I'm not raising a child in abject poverty so they can suffer through the same shit I'm dealing with.
Who in their right mind would?
Sorry you're a poverty gay. Ever try getting a job?
>speedreader
So no, got it
>doubling down after being called a moron
Lmao
>still haven't answered if you have a job or not
>speedreader intentionally being moronic
So no, got it
>speedreader concedes that he is too dumb and is going to die on this hill instead of reading thoroughly
I accept your concession
Loser. Go get a job you fricking bum
>ESLs that can't read
Lmao
Getting paid to perform a task doesn't fill that empty space in you two, and we can all see it. It doesn't make you better than the person you feel you are deep down. You're coping (and failing).
Not him but you're the loser without a job
That's not how that works.
It's entirely possible to be dirt poor with a happy family. Maybe your value are just shit.
>It's entirely possible to be dirt poor with a happy family
Said like someone who has never dealt with financial difficulties
So yeah your values are just shit.
Ironically, I think poor families are generally much happier than rich families. When will this stupid board realize that money doesn't buy happiness?
Money does buy happiness up to a certain threshold
Yeah and that threshold is relatively low, like $70,000. Even blue collar gays make that much
That's greater than the average salary in the US
Then get a better salary. Better yet, leave your bedroom and find a partner who can help
>durrr money can't buy you happiness!
>yes it can
>oh well its only up to 70k most people can get that!
>actually they cant and its significantly above the average
>uhhhh well if two of you put your money together you might be there!
how many more goalpost shifts?
Yes. Most people find partners and put their money to buy happiness. That's how life generally works
Most people get a divorce after divorce and no amount of shit they buy fills the emptiness inside
Wrong. Half of all married couples stay married. Nice cope though
yeah and half get divorced you fricking idiot what's your point
You used to be able to buy a house off a lemonade stand and now you need a double income both working two jobs to afford to rent, unless you lucked out and were born to parents with money who passed on the ability to generate wealth
Otherwise you're shit out of luck unless you magically figure it out before you reach the age of worthlessness to society as a male
Your opinion is stupid and israeli
>You used to be able to buy a house off a lemonade stand
No you couldn't
>you need a double income both working two jobs to afford to rent
No you don't
You're dumb.
You're an exaggerating homosexual
I didn't type the comment that you replied to. The exaggerations are meant to be taken AS exaggerations. He wasn't genuinely positing those statements as facts at face value. The point is that purchasing power used to be staggeringly better, and housing much more affordable.
I don't think anyone would deny that if you game a family in poverty the finance and aid to help them pay all their bills, food and some more stuff it would make them more happy.
But like you said, after you got all the necessities, needs and some money over for entertainment the diminishing return in "happiness" will pretty much disappear.
Buying a fancier TV, car, computer or whatever might be fun and exciting initially but that will wear down super fast and pretty much be the same as consuming your old stuff after a while.
This is an exaggeration of the points being made ITT. However, if you get to 30 living with parents and end up like that, that's inexorably your parents' doing and while I wouldn't expect such incompetents to handle the consequences of 30 years worth pf their own actions with any skill or grace, the rational and reasonable onlooker can't blame the offspring in cases like this.
>nooooooo, it's daddy's fault that I'm a shut in loser!!!
Was there ever a point in your life where you didn't act like a histrionic gay?
If a person is a shut in loser DESPITE excellent parenting, then we can look at the individual. But how you raise a child determines how that child grows into an adult. Many parents' parenting is what produces shut in losers. In those cases, it would be the mother and father's fault. This isn't an opinion.
I`m israeli, we literally live close to each other. Whites are capital golems made to serve the economy and keep the crushing system alive.
you're right
happened at 16 for me
Americans got atomized to be the perfect goy cattle.
>Hate their parents
>Hate their kids
>Forced into debt as early as 18
It's all a israeli scam to ruin any chance of piling up generational wealth, consequently perpetuating existing elites. But if you explain this to them they'll call you communist.
And yet most of the stories here of getting kicked out are from euros.
It's *checks time* 4:49am where I am. You think there might be a reason mostly euros are responding?
t. American
And? The point is it isn't just an American thing moron. Think before you type.
It's ok anon. It takes years of childhood development to understand concepts like time and geography and why they might influence something like posts on the internet. You'll get there, if your parents don't kick you out soon.
Because for americans this is as normal as getting a piece of your dick chopped off after being born. They don't even realize how much they are being fricked over by the israelites
Normal for everyone else. Shitbreed mutts are conned into going to "college". Parasites for life or slaves.
Not really. I don't know a single American who has ever been kicked out. That's only in your shit hole of a country.
>t. Kamal Hernadez III
It won't grow back
No, literally none of them are you fat moron, they all have americ**t spelling errors and were posted on americ**t time
So by your logic you're an American because you're posting on American time (i.e. approximately the same time as everyone else in the thread).
You guys seriously think this an American only thing? In most of Europe you're considered an adult at like 14 and most leave the house by 18. Let's not pretend that everyone is living in beautiful family units outside of Italy, which is full of incest anyway
Happened to me at 17. Don't make threads.
the one that always makes me laugh is shitty parents whining about kids growing up and not knowing basic a shit like how to cook proper food for themselves, as if they would just wake up knowing how one day and they weren't supposed to teach them.
>weren't supposed to teach them
Jesus Christ, do you need your hand held through everything? Buy food, buy book/look up recipe online. There, you can now make dinner like a big boy
>why should I take responsibility and teach them things while they're growing up?
don't ever have kids.
>why should I take responsibility and teach myself something when I can just b***h and moan on Cinemaphile because daddy didn't teach me?
when did I say I can't cook or take care of myself, projecting much? I just said it's hilarious when parents whine about their kids knowing x/y/z when they were the ones that failed to raise them.
What's funny is that your position is the one that's AGAINST taking responsibility.
That's besides the point being made. Not being taught doesn't necessarily justify the child not having basic cooking skills later in life. It DOES necessarily revoke the right of a parent, who didn't teach such skills, to complain about the absence of those skills in their kids/kids generally when they grow up.
And to be clear, basic life skills (cooking, cleaning, self care, financial competence, disciplining women (for boy)/obeying men (for girls) are a distinct subset of the category of "things you can learn in life", for which parents do have a primary duty in a child's upbringing.
>have kids because you want to have kids for your own self satisfaction
>once the honeymoon period with the kids you brought into this world outside of their choice ends throw them out at the earliest chance
>somehow able to live with yourself
I can't understand it
Otherwise they waste their lives. The best part of your life is being young with other young people. You can't experience that from home.
it doesn't work if they never get a chance because you're an abusive piece of shit that makes sure your kids think they're worthless, then terf em anyway
which is what gen xers tend to do
At 18 you're an adult. You should be capable of moving out at least by 22. Why would it take longer than that? Get a job. Why should they bankroll your life forever? Parasite.
>Why should they bankroll your life forever?
They made the decision to create that life.
Nobody forced them.
With the expectation that they would eventually grow up and become a big boy, not have daddy still buying their video games at 35
>With the expectation that they would eventually grow up and become a big boy
You can't just "expect" things and then they magically happen. That's childish thinking. For things you expect to happen, you have to manually put in the place and maintain the conditions that make such an expectation rational. If you fail to do this (even if you "try" and fail), then the expectation not realizing isn't the fault of anything or anyone but you.
>You can't just "expect" things
Yes I can
I didn't say you couldn't. You clipped a sentence fragment which, presented alone, completely alters the meaning of what I said.
You can absolutely "just expect things" til the cows (the women in your family) come home. That you EXPECT things bears no relation to their fruition. Resenting things not happening when all you did was expect them but not act effectively to make them happen, is immature. The resentment carries no dignity or respectability, as it would in the case where you did everything you could to, say, raise a decent and competent child, and they still turned out to be, say, like you.
Why does living at home = no job in your mind? I live with my dad. He's retired, and I'm the one with a job.
>mom lives in the countryside
>in a big house all by herself
>my grandparents died not that long ago (her parents)
>after that happened she doesn't have too many people in her life
>doesn't want to move out from her house as she lived there most of the life and like the country life
>so after I moved out she now lives alone in a big house with empty rooms all by herself
>I can't really visit her that often
I'm 31 and feeling kind of bad for moving out. Will make sure I visit her often tho whenever I can.
If I had a driver license and my own car I would probably move back in just for her sake.
>This never happens in real life.
Happened to me. To be clear, I 100% deserved it and I had been warned since the age of 12 that it was coming.
Why do boomers hate their own family so much?
lead gasoline, lead paint, lead food, etc.
>people talking about moving out when in the last 15 years in my country price of houses has increased by 400% compared to earnings over that time
>rental properties are priced to the point where even on the average salary with cost of living you will never be able to save up enough to get a mortgage on a house
>the norm is now people living with parents until up to almost their thirties because of how unaffordable it all is
its all so tiresome
Move out of LA
It's not the early 2010s anymore. Even rural areas are expensive now. Everywhere outside of areas filled with Black folk are expensive
Then move into an area filled with Black folk
Why should one subject themselves to that when they could instead live with family?
So a woman will frick you
Never had issues with that. Sorry to hear that you did.
>This never happens in real life.
Never heard about switzerland, have you?
because media is written by israeli people
I knew an adopted kid whose "parents" left for a month-long vacation on his 18th birthday without letting him know ahead of time, and left him a note saying basically "Happy 18th birthday, time to move out. You need to be gone when we get back."
To this day it might be the most psychopathic shit I've ever seen.
It comes back around. Now my parents are elderly and need me to live. They both have dementia so I have to take care of everything. It's only fair that I care for them. I got to live at home whenever I wanted and they paid my insurance and phone bills and helped with rent for decades. I'm gonna inherit the shit anyway, may as well let them live out their final days in the comforts of home with good food and family. Everything is delivered and I get to be stoned as a mother all day. They took care of me and now it's my turn to return the favor. Only fair. Hopefully the same happens for me when I'm 90.
>me and most of my friends and people my age moved out when we were 18-23 years old
>everyone is struggling to make ends meet
>most have shitty jobs even after finishing engineering degrees
>only the kid who was literally given a house and a mercedes is doing alright
>one of my friends killed himself by driving his motorcycle into incoming traffic and hit a truck head on
>my parents give me $15 a week as “support” while I have $250 to live on after paying rent and I have to pay all my insurances and phone bill myself (they pay it for my brother because he is their favourite child)
Gen x are no better than boomers
My boomer grandparents on both sides of the family shower my cousins in gifts and money while I get nothing even though I'm the only grandchild who shows up to their birthdays…
>250 after rent
>with presumably an "engineering" job
gee maybe you're just moronic
No I'm still in college. My friends who finished their degrees before me have not managed to find fulltime jobs and have to take part time or even shitty internships
Couldn't you qualify for a scholarship?
Not unless the days get extended by 8 hours
Too bad. Maybe you shouldn't be in university, there's too many imbeciles these days.
Trade is golden.
you sound like an imbecile
>I have to pay all my insurances and phone bill myself
LOL!! Sorry, is this thread filled with 15 year olds?
>once you're born we mutilate your genitalia
This was a thing for boomers because you could afford a house and car while working a shit job.
I'm lucky to have loving and understanding parents who understand my situation and delayed development. I'm not a tard or anything, just have always had issues concentrating, following orders correctly and keeping up at the same pace as other kids. Most of my friends already have their shit together at my age and are making good money at a qualified job, while I'm only just starting university now. I have no reason to move out, i can't afford it and there's no pressure to leave... but I'd still like to do it, just for that extra freedom and i can feel a bit more accomplished with my life
>Why is this such a common Hollywood trope?
is it, though?
I always admired those cultures where 3 or 4 generations all lived together in a big house. Might be stressful at times, but it also seems kinda comfy.
it seems fricking annoying. nobody drives me up the wall more than my parents.
Sounds like a fricking nightmare to me
My mum is starting to resent me and see me as a burden, i'm pretty sure. Conversations about "looking for work" and what my general life plan is coming up more and more frequently since I turned 22.
She's a good parent though so I have at least been looking around for work and considering studying. The job market sucks ass right now for someone in my shoes
>The job market sucks ass right now for someone in my shoes
Unemployment is 3%. Walk into a retail establishment of your choosing and ask for an application.
I've tried literally everywhere from retail to hospitality. I'm competing with hundreds of people, many of them are like 15 year olds too. I botched life and work, that's why I'm going to university so I can at least be qualified at SOMETHING
I manage at a print shop and we can't get anyone to apply even though we're short staffed.
this, I can't be hired even though I'm competent and experienced.
Getting my EE and then I'll accept whatever happens.
If you can't get a job at Walmart or McDonald's then you're dumber and more useless than literal morons
I've had jobs at those places and quit when I was like 16. I thought at the time I was destined for better things. Now they won't hire me back. Did you not read the part where I said i BOTCHED my career?
There are tens of millions of businesses in the US.
1. I am Australian 2. Black person stop speedreading and listen to me. I am competing for work with literally hundreds if not thousands of other wagies in my area all also looking to get their foot in the door.
Then go to Wendy's or Target. Exact same job, different paint on the building
These jobs haven't hired white people in over 2 decades. Literally nowhere allows you to walk in and fill out an application.
/misc/ gays aren't welcome here
Employment is 60% israelite.
>Actually children and retired people aren't employed so the TRUE unemployment rate is higher
Wow, never thought of that
Why am I not surprised 90% of posters here live with mom and dad.
If you post in Cinemaphile about buying a boxing/UFC PPV about 40 anons get frickin furious with (you). Everyone here is broke
If you casually mention it, that reaction will be minimal.
If you're obviously making the purchase itself the subject of your post, as a "look at my shiny rock, where's your shiny rock?" move, yes people will pick up on the ill-will and dishonesty of such a post and react negatively.
Such a strong reaction ("about 40 anons get frickin furious") is garnered by some degree of dick behaviour on the part of the poster. Sadly many aren't self aware, and don't even recognize their own motivations when doing this, and so get genuinely confused by negative reactions, and mistakenly ascribe them to "jealousy/haters/butthurt poorgays", etc.
friendly reminder that the "nuclear family" is a israeli lie to sell houses
Are these israelites in the room with you right now?
No, they're currently filming more propaganda to erode social values.
I'm in Canada, it's even worse than the states. They imported 5 million new people in the last few years and haven't built any homes, so on-top of a housing crises there's now also a surplus of street shitters who are comfortable sleeping 10 people to a single room like it's barracks.
No shit I live with my parents, virtually everyone I know does that.
They'll also work shit conditions for shit wages and just do what they're told without dignity. And then when one of them gets in the hiring position, they only hire their own people or worse. I saw a White girl working at Tim's once a few weeks ago and I was taken aback.
I wanted to get a comfy office job, but virtually nobody is hiring. And I don't want to work a trade or join the oil fields. And I can't wrap my head around math for computers.
So I'm 27 and I'm going back to college to study nursing. It's the only thing in demand that pays well.
Im actually really racist towards Indians at this point. I moved to my super small home town and saw a handful of them around and I got pissed off just from the sight.
B2B sales anon. Find a corporate sales gig with no cold calling. It’s comfy as frick and you really don’t have to work hard unless you’re a total moron
The only place I've seen an employed white male in the last decade is a computer parts store.
If you look at the conditions jeets grew up in in their home country, having 20 people crammed into a small apartment is quite spacious for them.
Which is why they should stay in their home countries. They're not appropriate here.
How does a thread about moving out at 18 have the most replies on Cinemaphile atm?
I'm assuming a LOT of you here still live at home with your parents and relate to the topic of the thread?
Nice post in the thread about moving out at 18. I'm assuming you still live at home with your parents and relate to the topic of the thread?
No, but it was an honest question, and I wasn't trying to insult you or anyone else that does relate. Why do you feel the need to be snarky and project?
Where?
Who?
Black folk and israelites.
Cumskins, spics, and chinks too?
No Whites are supreme. The worst slur you can muster still attests to our virility. Heil Hitler!
>immediately getting triggered by the white slur and going on the defensive
lol you're most definitely an insecure loser IRL
Off topic threads are always peak no matter what the board.
right, likely because many adult posters on Cinemaphile still live at home with their parents, which is why these types of threads tend to attract so many posters
Losers are insecure about being losers. It's that simple. Outrage attracts clicks and engagement
Everyone I've known went to college at 18 anyways. Maybe trailer trash tradies would kick their kids out but they most likely just rented out the neighboring trailer or something
Im italian so I could murder someone in the house and they wouldnt kick me out. Must suck to be a medigan
Boomers should have been genocided years ago before they could fundamentally destroy society.
> im gonna moooooove to florida to retire then whine about how much i miss my grandkids who i moooooooved so far away from. also i took out a reverse mortgage on the house, the bank is my family now, frick you frick you. also i am voting for bigger government and more medicare so that i can live to be 105 in sheer agony
I would've been embarrassed to not move out at 18, but that's more individual temperament than anything else.
I love my dad even though he wasn't there in my teenage years. However I think if I ever have kids I'll try to hold the family together until they're all 18+. Dads moving out when a boy is young is fricking up our society so much it's unreal.
Americans throw their kids out on the street at 18. As a result, their kids throw them in a retirement home when they get old, instead of taking care of them. You reap what you sow I guess
I can’t believe thirdies still fall for this fake webm. Evicting someone takes weeks at
minimum and you can’t even begin the process until that person turns 18
Fake af my dude
Canadian. Mom was doting, but really only able to look after herself (and that's a stretch tbh) after the divorce, Dad was basically absent since he worked 60+ hours a week and the only family time he cared about was church, holiday meals, and forcing my sister and I to do things he liked instead of taking an interest in our hobbies; I learned how to disassociate at-will because until I turned 16 or 17, I wasn't allowed to go do anything else after church besides listen to him prattle on about a forty year old car I would never drive.
To the old man's credit, he never hit me without a damned good reason (usually a swift kick in the ass, and that was all), adequately provided, and dropped any psycho b***h that tried to break up what was left of our family, but I had to learn everything I know about being an adult pretty much by myself because he's married to his job.
I absolutely don't hate him, but it's hard to feel much of anything besides a gratitude that grows fainter with every year spent independent of him; I sometimes feel bad about it, but I've accepted that we're totally different and he just doesn't have room in his life for anything besides work, a woman he tolerates for sex, and his current obsession (motorcycles).
>I will fail as a parent to prepare you for the world
>I delude myself into thinking the world is exactly the same as it was when I was a child
>GET THE FRICK OUT A SUPPORT YOURSELF THE SECOND WHEN YOU TURN 18
This shit is why I hate people older than me.
So what happened? America has infinite space and endless resources. Somehow boomers turned the land of infinity into a Ponzi pyramid scheme where they own everything and everyone born after gets an incrementally smaller piece. And now boomers own 50% of the wealth and zoomers and millenials own 5%
We already have more empty houses than homeless, we have plenty of empty land to build homes. But boomers refuse to allow that because they bought a house and DEMAND that they flip their land for 10x it's value despite making no significant renovations besides replacing the counter tops....
Seriously what the frick.
Scarce housing drives up the cost of housing, and for most middle class people, especially those of retirement age, their home represents the bulk of their net worth. It shouldn't surprise you that people NIMBY their way into increasing the value of their homes.
I came back to live with my parents from ages 22-26 - which also coincided with the pandemic - and it sucked, man. I felt like a child. A prisoner in my own home.
>once you're 18 you're outie
My dad kicked me out when I was 18, I struggled financially and lived in my car until I got ahead, he never helped me my entire life, If I needed to borrow 20 bucks for gas I would have to pay back 25, meanwhile he was living the high life, until he lost his good job before covid and my mom died and now he cant pay his bills because he never saved a penny his entire boomer life, now he's begging me for money or for him to move into my place or vice versa, I'm going to take great joy in seeing his pathetic selfish ass become homeless, I'm going to find out what sidewalk he's living on so I can laugh at him.
It happened to me so frick yourself. This is a very standard, white person problem. Minorities actually support their families through the generations. White people kick their kids out at 18, blow their inheritance on bullshit retirement travel and then dare to question why no one visits them in the old folks home. White people, specifically white people that breed are inherently selfish.
>Minorities actually support their families through the generations.
You're confusing a child living with their grandparents because the dad is in jail as "helping families through the generations"
Ive been on my own since i was 26. It was a good decision on my part since i wanted to get away from my shitty aunt. Thing is, the past few places i have lived sucked ass. It really is a b***h being on your own, especially in this fricking shitshow of an economy. Hell, i have people hitting me up for money and thats it. Im at that point where i just want to cut everyone off, save up, and go somewhere far away.
My mom told me she could move out at 16 and work part time as a waitress and still make rent. Fricking pisses me off how I can work $5 over the min wage full time and still can't afford to live with roommates in some shitty basement.
My parents are kind though, and understand it's a different time and are chill with me living with them. I'm 27 and after failing to get into programming and marketing I'm just going to go into nursing since it's the most stable job in this shit economy.
Your mom could afford that because of the tips. Waitresses make insane money
This entire thread is full of bots trying to get you to hate your family and the principles of the US/western culture. It's done by China and Russia to enfeeble us (by causing mental health crises) before a potential war.
Critically evaluate anonymous posts. This is, and has been happening for some time.
No anon, it's done by israelites. Who do you think makes the movies that glorify broken families, and who owns the money printers and the housing and the banks?
Regardless of the reason, shitty parents exist and growing up in the small town with parents who have done way worse shit than what anons here have posted. It's all real and it's an epidemic. Parents in the US are notoriously shitty and treat their kids like employees they can fire and kick out.
>buy a car with the money you make mowing lawns, shovelling snow and delivering papers
>ask a girl out to the prom and marry her later
>buy a house with a white picket fence on the salary of the job you got after graduating high school
Please explain how this was possible
>buy a car with the money you make mowing lawns, shovelling snow and delivering papers
Do that, save it, and don't spend it on Uber Eats every night
>ask a girl out to the prom and marry her later
Do it
>buy a house with a white picket fence on the salary of the job you got after graduating high school
There are plenty of good paying blue collar jobs you can get right out of high school