he got the promotion, responsibilties, all the extra paperwork, etc but didnt get the title or pay raise or pension. its fricking bullshit and thrn lectured by the diversity hire over being unpaid intern doing master level workflow for them. even told made fake promises about earning trust (not money) if did more u paid overtime and rat out his friends.
People say it was Yoda's complacency that killed the Jedi Order and Republic, but we all know it was actually Mace Windu's b***hy know-it-all attitude and superiority complex that destabilized the Jedi Order and pushed Anakin to the Dark Side.
Actually, it was Ki-adi Mundi being a coneheaded moron breaking the rules by having wives while also being in the council. He's everything wrong with the order
Mother fricker Mace Windu was the one who sensed a plot to destroy the Jedi. He knew Palpatine was up to shady shit even before fighting him. Yoda just sat there like a moron telling everyone to do nothing. Do nothing is why Palpatine was able to walk all over the Jedi.
Yoda could have pulled rank on Windu easily if he wanted to, people forget he’s just as wrong in the OT as he was in the prequels.
>oh, that’s disappointing but I graciously accept the councils decision and look forward to addressing this again in my next quarterly review…
frick that nonsense. everyone told him daily from age 6 he was the next jedi savior, I’d be pissed too
The more galling part is being told he’s capable to be on the governing council of the order yet is somehow not capable of being a master. That’s full moron either give him both or just make him a master but not on the council
Mace was a terrible jedi and a lot of the burden for how much anakin felt like an outsider falls on him but yoda allowed Mace to act like a complete frickwit. Maybe yoda felt like putting up with Mace being a dick was the safer option than having someone of his power level going his own way outside the order. What if palaptine or plagueis had recruited him. I always felt that part in attack of the clones where yoda is taking about the flaws of the jedi, was a subtle dig at Mace.
They are Jedi masters because their in tune with the force. They knew this homie was evil and was checking his temperature. Ended up a whiny b***h that kills children.
Here are fan-edits that insert those deleted scenes with finished effects. >Bobson Dugnutt
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-expanded-edition/
The Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hmKmPaZdhBOeS9f_LWmvtANKM8lMEThs/view >DsqrD Studio
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/star-wars-episode-iii-vengeance-of-the-dark-side-a-revenge-of-the-sith-fanfixed-extended-edition-by-dsqrd-studio/
The Edit: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1J-i_Oe8bVWegBoHA2nT_uRE1ulo4HjYh >NumeralJoker
This is a 4.5 hour cut of Revenge of the Sith, merged with the 4 episodes from the Siege of Mandalore Clone Wars Finale, 21 minutes of the battle of Coruscant from the 2005 Clone Wars Microseries, and 5 deleted scenes, all put together into one massive chronological canon-friendly super edit
The Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1et4QHIkBOj4qwvs1Z1y0OuxWST9MBiVE/view
Shadowing management meetings most likely means you're in their succession plan when the current manager leaves. Theyre grooming you for management, it's a good thing.
Don't become a supervisor, it is fricking awful.
There is nothing more soul crushing than training dopey workers who could give a frick, to dealing with the complaints of everyone, and having upper management ride your ass.
>oh, that’s disappointing but I graciously accept the councils decision and look forward to addressing this again in my next quarterly review…
frick that nonsense. everyone told him daily from age 6 he was the next jedi savior, I’d be pissed too
Maturity is recognising the master title as meaningless and the seat on the council was the actual big deal. It's like being a captain the army and being offered to sit in on chief of staff meetings where the president regularly attends. Only a brat would think not being offered a promotion to colonel was a big enough insult to throw the entire opportunity away.
>Maturity is
Doing the right thing regardless of the jedi code and not giving a frick about being on the council. Like qui gon, the only true jedi in the prequels.
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based take, Anakin is Qui-Gon but more immature in a lot of ways. The only real way to prevent Anakin from going Dark Side would have had him train with Qui-Gon and exist on the perferral of the Jedi Council shit. Anakin was never one to follow the code whole heartedly since he was already smashing puss behind the council's back.
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Anonymous
>The only real way to prevent Anakin from going Dark Side would have had him train with Qui-Gon
Which is why he had to die.
3 months ago
Anonymous
People sometimes forget that the clone wars inherently had to be a tragedy because it’s a prequel and they couldn’t deviate from anakin falling, so good people have to die and the order have to be complacent arrogant buttholes for it to work
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Doing the right thing >like Qui-gonn
using the force to scam poor people and get better deals from vendors at local markets?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Watto wasn't poor. 10,000 credits was more than fair.
3 months ago
Anonymous
and what about fixing the dice?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Watto was using a loaded dice anyway. Qui gon was acting for the greater good and still tried to give watto a good deal. If watto hadn't been such a israelite he would have had all the winning from the race and retained the pod racer.
3 months ago
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I posit that that Anakin's fall in the prequels would have been more organic and interesting if Anakin had lost the pod race and QuiGonn had taken him anyway.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Lucas wanted Phantom Menace to have more feel-good energy to it. He wanted Anakin to win by his own skills to show kids that they could accomplish a lot if they worked hard enough.
3 months ago
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It's also for anakins character development and to establish for the audience anakins inate skills.
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It's also for anakins character development and to establish for the audience anakins inate skills.
There was enough of that in the space battle when he practically wipes out the entire droid fleet by himself. It was monotonous at that point because he was already a flawless, capable character.
The Phantom Menace's most interesting marketing was that Anakin was growing in the shadow of Vader, and nothing in the film gave us that.
The most foreboding/ominous development was Palpatine's spiralling control grab through the staged war on Naboo.
I consider it a wasted opportunity at some great drama that would have made the later drama seem less contrived.
He isn't a master though, this interaction blatantly shows he can't even control his emotions in the slightest. Anakin is a villain because he's a whiny little baby who was very easy for the Palpster to manipulate.
>Anakin, you look troubled. Is everything alright? >I had a nightmare, Padme. You were in it, and you... you died. >Oh, Anakin, that sounds terrible. What happened in the dream? >You were in pain, screaming my name, and then... >Oh, I see. So, basically, you dreamt of me screaming your name while giving birth? >Well, when you put it that way... >Do you even know how children are born, Anakin? >... >Rolls credits
Wouldn't there be way more Jedi masters than members of the council? It's like saying "We'll put you on the Supreme Court but we deny you a law degree."
quick reminder that lucas cut out a scene where palpatine implied to anakin that padme was cheating on him with obi wan setting up the "you will not take her from me" line perfectly and being an excellent wedge between anakin and obiwan
Lucas is known for three (3) films unrelated to kiddie shit: THX1138, American Graffiti and Red Tails (which was a commercial and critical failure). He was trained as a film editor and his dick was held for him throughout most of his career: the wisest move he ever made was convincing Fox to keep 100% of the tickets and just leave him the merchandising but otherwise he is an amiable frickwit with a sense of humor about himself who got lucky capitalizing on selling nostalgia for a time most of his audience wasn't directly familiar with. Without Laurence Kasdan, John Williams and Ralph McQuarrie he would have fricking bumbled it.
He did
The location of the crash had perfect visibility for a half-mile in every direction, the roads were straight and flat meeting at a 90° angle, and the fricker ignored the stop sign indicating the intersecting road had the right of way
To this day I don't see why he wasn't imprisoned or sued
In fairness to Anakin, he was entirely in the right here. They should either have granted him the position or denied the chancellor's request entirely.
Especially since he was doing so well fighting the war. Three years of that shit and they still won't promote him? Even with him being Force Jesus IE the guy who's supposed to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force.
The American Revolution happened in part because James Otis Sr. was denied promotion from Attorney General of Massachusetts to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
The Taiping Rebellion, one of the bloodiest conflicts in China's history, happened because Hong Huoxiu failed the Civil Service exam three times
I always had feeling that people missed the context of the scene.
The senate was pressuring the Jedi to put Anakin on the Council, but the way Windu says it is as direct way to to accuse Anakin to be the agent of the senate, more than the member of the order, as possible without outright saying it, which is preposterous at this time in the war.
Anakin had full right to be outraged in this moment.
I always liked the politic in the prequels, for an adventure movie the tangled mess of it was just the right level of subtle.
>In a moment of panic anakin sides with sidious and cuts off windus hand >"Well guess I'm committed now. Time to kill 20 children"
It's still so jarring, he turned way too evil too fast
He was an active participant in the the execution of a council member. Its understandable that he thought the jedi could never forgive him, on top of that he was still desperate to save padme.
The entire motivation for the US House of Cards is that they won't make Frank Speaker of the House despite his dealmaking prowess, so he destroys everyone over him to become President then ironically once he's in that role he's unable to make deals any more, the only thing he was genuinely useful at
Frick me you're right but the irony is still the same, outside the HoR with far more power he became useless at deal brokering and a dissatisfied frickup doing anything else that wasn't scheming. His one agenda as President was roundly reviled by the same people who would have lapped it up before he ascended to the throne.
It's the only time in the series you genuinely feel bad for the fricker because he's trying to do good (albeit for ego's sake) and it's denied him. The series should have ended on that note quickly followed by him being exposed for the murder but the idiot running the show didn't want to get off the gravy train until his shelf was groaning with Emmys.
Yeah.
>villain
>evil
Hitler was trans, xe was very brave
From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.
Based Argentina.
Isn't Argentina israelite central in Latin America?
based argies
he got the promotion, responsibilties, all the extra paperwork, etc but didnt get the title or pay raise or pension. its fricking bullshit and thrn lectured by the diversity hire over being unpaid intern doing master level workflow for them. even told made fake promises about earning trust (not money) if did more u paid overtime and rat out his friends.
That was the kicker tbh. He was even willing to turn over his only supporter and they still gave him the cold shoulder.
People say it was Yoda's complacency that killed the Jedi Order and Republic, but we all know it was actually Mace Windu's b***hy know-it-all attitude and superiority complex that destabilized the Jedi Order and pushed Anakin to the Dark Side.
Actually, it was Ki-adi Mundi being a coneheaded moron breaking the rules by having wives while also being in the council. He's everything wrong with the order
Don't besmirch my man Mundi like that, he survived Grievous in his prime.
Respect him and apologize RIGHT NOW
Mother fricker Mace Windu was the one who sensed a plot to destroy the Jedi. He knew Palpatine was up to shady shit even before fighting him. Yoda just sat there like a moron telling everyone to do nothing. Do nothing is why Palpatine was able to walk all over the Jedi.
Yoda could have pulled rank on Windu easily if he wanted to, people forget he’s just as wrong in the OT as he was in the prequels.
The more galling part is being told he’s capable to be on the governing council of the order yet is somehow not capable of being a master. That’s full moron either give him both or just make him a master but not on the council
Mace was a terrible jedi and a lot of the burden for how much anakin felt like an outsider falls on him but yoda allowed Mace to act like a complete frickwit. Maybe yoda felt like putting up with Mace being a dick was the safer option than having someone of his power level going his own way outside the order. What if palaptine or plagueis had recruited him. I always felt that part in attack of the clones where yoda is taking about the flaws of the jedi, was a subtle dig at Mace.
Actually it was a fault of Kit Fisto, because instead of taking care of the kit side of Jedi order, he was full into the fisto business instead.
They are Jedi masters because their in tune with the force. They knew this homie was evil and was checking his temperature. Ended up a whiny b***h that kills children.
He's whiny in AotC because he's 19.
Ancestral memories of cotton harvesting prevented Mace from calling anyone "master."
It's 2024. You on a tv forum making edgy racist jokes about imaginary characters.
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have a nice day reddit Black person
>Ancestral
But STAR WARS takes place a long long time ago.
>you're going to need me on this one, master
>no, you stay here for one mission out of the 542 that we've done together
>*falls to the dark side*
he already was on a mission that the council didn't want him to leave though
But enough about Iago.
they cut too many scenes
there's a 6hr version in lucas' archives somewhere
Here are fan-edits that insert those deleted scenes with finished effects.
>Bobson Dugnutt
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-expanded-edition/
The Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hmKmPaZdhBOeS9f_LWmvtANKM8lMEThs/view
>DsqrD Studio
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/star-wars-episode-iii-vengeance-of-the-dark-side-a-revenge-of-the-sith-fanfixed-extended-edition-by-dsqrd-studio/
The Edit: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1J-i_Oe8bVWegBoHA2nT_uRE1ulo4HjYh
>NumeralJoker
This is a 4.5 hour cut of Revenge of the Sith, merged with the 4 episodes from the Siege of Mandalore Clone Wars Finale, 21 minutes of the battle of Coruscant from the 2005 Clone Wars Microseries, and 5 deleted scenes, all put together into one massive chronological canon-friendly super edit
The Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1et4QHIkBOj4qwvs1Z1y0OuxWST9MBiVE/view
>editing some cartoons into a movie
What the hell is wrong with these people?
>adding three more fun seconds of Christopher Lee
there's a lot more that was cut
and they had more crazy stuff happening in the animatics
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this is literally me and my job at Home Depot
they let me sit in on management meetings every week but do not grant me the rank of supervisor
Trust me, you don’t want to be loser retail manager. Whatever your goal in life is, don’t do that
You can make more than $30/hour as a retail assistant supervisor. I only make $40/hour as an electrician which is objectively a worse day.
100k per year plus whatever bonus's for targets is pretty good.
Shadowing management meetings most likely means you're in their succession plan when the current manager leaves. Theyre grooming you for management, it's a good thing.
Don't become a supervisor, it is fricking awful.
There is nothing more soul crushing than training dopey workers who could give a frick, to dealing with the complaints of everyone, and having upper management ride your ass.
>could give a frick
I guess you're one of the dopey workers
Literally the plot of Othello
They didn't trust him. What would have been better would be "We grant you the rank of master but you are not on this council"
His reaction confirmed to them he wasn't ready to be a master.
>oh, that’s disappointing but I graciously accept the councils decision and look forward to addressing this again in my next quarterly review…
frick that nonsense. everyone told him daily from age 6 he was the next jedi savior, I’d be pissed too
He's literally Force Jesus.
There's more to being a jedi than kicking ass. He was an immature brat.
How was he immature?
because he still wanted to save his mother from being gangraped by sandBlack folk
Maturity is recognising the master title as meaningless and the seat on the council was the actual big deal. It's like being a captain the army and being offered to sit in on chief of staff meetings where the president regularly attends. Only a brat would think not being offered a promotion to colonel was a big enough insult to throw the entire opportunity away.
>Maturity is
Doing the right thing regardless of the jedi code and not giving a frick about being on the council. Like qui gon, the only true jedi in the prequels.
based take, Anakin is Qui-Gon but more immature in a lot of ways. The only real way to prevent Anakin from going Dark Side would have had him train with Qui-Gon and exist on the perferral of the Jedi Council shit. Anakin was never one to follow the code whole heartedly since he was already smashing puss behind the council's back.
>The only real way to prevent Anakin from going Dark Side would have had him train with Qui-Gon
Which is why he had to die.
People sometimes forget that the clone wars inherently had to be a tragedy because it’s a prequel and they couldn’t deviate from anakin falling, so good people have to die and the order have to be complacent arrogant buttholes for it to work
>Doing the right thing
>like Qui-gonn
using the force to scam poor people and get better deals from vendors at local markets?
Watto wasn't poor. 10,000 credits was more than fair.
and what about fixing the dice?
Watto was using a loaded dice anyway. Qui gon was acting for the greater good and still tried to give watto a good deal. If watto hadn't been such a israelite he would have had all the winning from the race and retained the pod racer.
I posit that that Anakin's fall in the prequels would have been more organic and interesting if Anakin had lost the pod race and QuiGonn had taken him anyway.
Lucas wanted Phantom Menace to have more feel-good energy to it. He wanted Anakin to win by his own skills to show kids that they could accomplish a lot if they worked hard enough.
It's also for anakins character development and to establish for the audience anakins inate skills.
There was enough of that in the space battle when he practically wipes out the entire droid fleet by himself. It was monotonous at that point because he was already a flawless, capable character.
The Phantom Menace's most interesting marketing was that Anakin was growing in the shadow of Vader, and nothing in the film gave us that.
The most foreboding/ominous development was Palpatine's spiralling control grab through the staged war on Naboo.
I consider it a wasted opportunity at some great drama that would have made the later drama seem less contrived.
He isn't a master though, this interaction blatantly shows he can't even control his emotions in the slightest. Anakin is a villain because he's a whiny little baby who was very easy for the Palpster to manipulate.
If he's not a master don't put him on the council.
He needed to be a Master to get access to the archives. Anakin believed the answers to saving Padme's life were in there.
>Anakin, you look troubled. Is everything alright?
>I had a nightmare, Padme. You were in it, and you... you died.
>Oh, Anakin, that sounds terrible. What happened in the dream?
>You were in pain, screaming my name, and then...
>Oh, I see. So, basically, you dreamt of me screaming your name while giving birth?
>Well, when you put it that way...
>Do you even know how children are born, Anakin?
>...
>Rolls credits
He felt her die in that dream.
Wouldn't there be way more Jedi masters than members of the council? It's like saying "We'll put you on the Supreme Court but we deny you a law degree."
quick reminder that lucas cut out a scene where palpatine implied to anakin that padme was cheating on him with obi wan setting up the "you will not take her from me" line perfectly and being an excellent wedge between anakin and obiwan
why the FRICK would they have CUT THAT
it's acutally genious
The movie was already pretty long, so he had to make sacrifices for the run-time and pacing.
>George had a great idea but botched the execution
dude was a genius but he needed a handler
Lucas is known for three (3) films unrelated to kiddie shit: THX1138, American Graffiti and Red Tails (which was a commercial and critical failure). He was trained as a film editor and his dick was held for him throughout most of his career: the wisest move he ever made was convincing Fox to keep 100% of the tickets and just leave him the merchandising but otherwise he is an amiable frickwit with a sense of humor about himself who got lucky capitalizing on selling nostalgia for a time most of his audience wasn't directly familiar with. Without Laurence Kasdan, John Williams and Ralph McQuarrie he would have fricking bumbled it.
headcanon
Didn't this guy murder his brother and friend in a car crash?
He did
The location of the crash had perfect visibility for a half-mile in every direction, the roads were straight and flat meeting at a 90° angle, and the fricker ignored the stop sign indicating the intersecting road had the right of way
To this day I don't see why he wasn't imprisoned or sued
lucas' lunkheaded "set up" for the "now I am the master" line in Star Wars
In fairness to Anakin, he was entirely in the right here. They should either have granted him the position or denied the chancellor's request entirely.
Especially since he was doing so well fighting the war. Three years of that shit and they still won't promote him? Even with him being Force Jesus IE the guy who's supposed to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force.
The American Revolution happened in part because James Otis Sr. was denied promotion from Attorney General of Massachusetts to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
The Taiping Rebellion, one of the bloodiest conflicts in China's history, happened because Hong Huoxiu failed the Civil Service exam three times
I always had feeling that people missed the context of the scene.
The senate was pressuring the Jedi to put Anakin on the Council, but the way Windu says it is as direct way to to accuse Anakin to be the agent of the senate, more than the member of the order, as possible without outright saying it, which is preposterous at this time in the war.
Anakin had full right to be outraged in this moment.
I always liked the politic in the prequels, for an adventure movie the tangled mess of it was just the right level of subtle.
>The senate
As in "I am the senate"?
Of course, any complaints are to be directed to the senator Jar Jar Binks of Naboo.
This. And Obi Wan never publicly interceding in Anakin's defence in this same scene is partly the reason Anakin never reallh trusts him from now on.
Dude felt betrayed that his supposed brother never came to his defense.
>In a moment of panic anakin sides with sidious and cuts off windus hand
>"Well guess I'm committed now. Time to kill 20 children"
It's still so jarring, he turned way too evil too fast
He was an active participant in the the execution of a council member. Its understandable that he thought the jedi could never forgive him, on top of that he was still desperate to save padme.
The entire motivation for the US House of Cards is that they won't make Frank Speaker of the House despite his dealmaking prowess, so he destroys everyone over him to become President then ironically once he's in that role he's unable to make deals any more, the only thing he was genuinely useful at
Frank wanted to be secretary of state
Frick me you're right but the irony is still the same, outside the HoR with far more power he became useless at deal brokering and a dissatisfied frickup doing anything else that wasn't scheming. His one agenda as President was roundly reviled by the same people who would have lapped it up before he ascended to the throne.
It's the only time in the series you genuinely feel bad for the fricker because he's trying to do good (albeit for ego's sake) and it's denied him. The series should have ended on that note quickly followed by him being exposed for the murder but the idiot running the show didn't want to get off the gravy train until his shelf was groaning with Emmys.
Yeah, I was just nitpicking.
Anakin's service in the Clone Wars entitled him to the salary of a Jedi Master. Blentus fritters don't come cheap you know.