South Park constantly shit on Seth MacFarlane and his work, but as far as I know Seth never even knew SP existed
One sided show rivalries
South Park constantly shit on Seth MacFarlane and his work, but as far as I know Seth never even knew SP existed
Family Guy was always shit, they were completely in the right to shit on it.
Shit park also has always been shit.
Go to bed seth
both are products made to shit on other projects.
woah, ass ahoy!
>Episode lampoon FG humor and how fans of both shows would act like complete assclowns debating over it
>FG creators figured it out, and would regularly make jokes calling back to the South Park episodes
>Years later, anons still don't get it and act like complete assclowns, just as South Park predicted
I really wanna believe it's just OP being a homosexual and everyone's just playing along. But that's just a fool's hope.
South Park was always shit, it's attempt to shit on MacFarlane was always ineffectual.
Amazing how FG fans are still seething about this nearly 18 years later
it's more amazing that they're both still on air
Family guy did insert a gag into an episode insinuating Matt and Trey were gay in response to their criticism of the show, so your post isn't entirely accurate, even if it was a comparatively small gag.
In fairness that gag was cut from the released episode, it’s a deleted scene
That looks bad for FG then. SP attacked the show's originality and it got so under Seth's skin he couldn't think of anything but resort to namecalling, and was still ashamed of even trying to.
FG bows to SP like SP bows to islam.
>Seth hasn't write a Family guy episode ever
unless you count writing the manatee-balls
trey and matt are gay as frick tho
That jus proves how lazy Seth jokes are that mat and trey beat him to it
Does Seth Macfarlene consider being gay an insult?
Everyone considers being gay an insult.
Not me
This was also a reaction to the Manatee joke allegations
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/y2OdF0MbYYA?feature=share
>but as far as I know Seth never even knew SP existed
Actually no, Seth has gone on interview wondering why Matt and Tray hated his guts.
>Seth has gone on interview wondering why Matt and Tray hated his guts.
Which I don’t think was ever personal. Matt and Trey, in their own words, “hate celebrities,” which is why they never let someone play themselves in South Park (like Clooney). They hate anyone who has a media presence even though they lap up all the attention they get from SP. It’s just the equivalent to the class clown despising that someone else gets attention for once and then throwing a fit about it. Seth is a very extroverted guy and isn’t afraid of doing shit like calling out Weinstein at the Oscars, while Matt and Trey caved in on that episode where they couldn’t show the Muslim sky daddy because it might offend some third worlders.
>Matt and Trey caved in on that episode where they couldn’t show the Muslim sky daddy because it might offend some third worlders
That was Comedy Central's doing
And they caved to Comedy Central. So it's not about the art, but the money. Matt gotta fund that vineyard somehow. Funny how they shit on the rich when they themselves ARE those rich douchebags now. Gen Xers are the biggest hypocrites around. Spent their young adult years saying how much the "hate the man and what society wants" and then go do everything the man and society wants and when confronted they say "whatever, man."
>And they caved to Comedy Central
They didn't. They censored Kyle's speech at the last minute. People thought it was a gag but it wasn't
but they didn't Allah was shown long ago in south park he even has fire powers in the super best friends. He just wasn't allowed to be shown in that episode.
Super Best Friends came out before it was seen as bad and Islam didn't care. Also it's been removed from all collections which is too bad cause it's one of my fav episodes.
>And they caved to Comedy Central.
They literally have to. How are they going to air an episode against Comedy Central's wishes? It's literally their platform.
>Which I don’t think was ever personal. Matt and Trey, in their own words, “hate celebrities,” which is why they never let someone play themselves in South Park (like Clooney).
They let him play the gay dog, and voice a doctor in the movie. They put on this front that they are edgy when really its all about maintaining the illusion that half the people they're making fun of wouldn't absolutely take the piss out of themselves. You think Matt Damon wouldn't hop in a booth to shout his own name like a moron? These people prostitute themselves out for a living. The joke isn't edgy if the celebrity is in on it.
Also Matt and Trey don't mock everyone equally. They refuse to do an episode on Elon Musk or joke about him once because they personally know him. I don't know what that guy has on the both of them that they refuse to ridicule.
Not him but the Cripple taxi episode had Elon Musk as the main parody
A better example for you would be their bias towards Hillary, Joe Biden or Breast Cancer Show Ever
>Hillary
I remember they mocked her a few times.
She was meant to be the hero of that arc until Trump blindsided them with the win, then they tried doing that subplot with her getting Gerald to save America from Trump or something but it all just didn’t make sense anymore.
and CNN, and the Obamas. They did an entire episode just seething at a Fox News Host saying mean things to Obama
I’ve lost count of the number of times they’ve made fun of racist white rednecks and whites who think it’s ok to say Black person, and white cops “discriminating” against blacks, but they’ve always been dead silent refusing to say a single thing offensive about nigs. George Floyd riots? Nope, not gonna even speak about it once. Token and every other black? Rich and refined and well mannered and always morally right. Michelle Obama? The best woman to ever exist and beats up Cartman for being a chud.
Not even touching the godawful vaccination special and shilling Israel as great for giving (forcing) everyone onto the vax
They had two separate, entire episodes of Trey’s self insert apologizing and coping to Token for white man racism, it’s hilarious how buckbroken that man is. The show isn’t centrist it’s liberal and it should’ve stuck to the spark of magic it had in season 1-4, but it didn’t and now it’s revealing their true natures. A israelite and his lover.
don't forget the episode where they apologized to al gore or where cartman defended kathleen kennedy. modern south park is the definition of safe edgy. nothing they do is shocking anymore, they just shit on the usual pre-approved targets with crude and dumb jokes
but he already appeared
I hate how detailed it is these days.
Remember when celebrities were literal pictures of the person's head with the mouth cut out so they could flap it around for speech?
I think only a few celebrities were depicted that way
wasn't it only mel gibson and saddam?
Oh and the butt-chin guy.
Who are Radiohead and Korn?
Musicians who were fine doing jokes at their own expense
>Matt and Trey caved in on that episode where they couldn’t show the Muslim sky daddy because it might offend some third worlders.
They did because they received actual death threats straight from isis and terrorist groups, wich consisted of bombing CC head quarters and both matt and trey getting executed.
CC pretty much forced them to call it quits since that much risk wasn't worth it just to call out some sand Black folk and permaban 200 and 201.
>Seth is a very extroverted guy and isn’t afraid of doing shit like calling out Weinstein at the Oscars
Something that everybody knew and was generally accepted as common knowledge, but when your boy toy Seth does it, now it's brave!
How much until Seth gets outed on Epsteins List and exposed as just throwing others under the bus to cover his own nihilistic ass, guilty or innocent.
Didnt pre S5 South Park used to have actual special guests voicing themselves? Heck, Clooney voiced the doc in the movie.
Many people like to point out the Chef Misunderstanding with scientology and them doing "The return of Chef" as revenge as the point of no return on them goin all sour on everyone, but i believe it was mostly because of their own personal lifes going trough hell, dont know which one of em got the japanese wife, but from what i heard, she was basically will smith's wife levels of bitter witch, and them doing drugs i heard, but i can be wrong.
>Matt and Trey, in their own words, “hate celebrities,” which is why they never let someone play themselves in South Park (like Clooney)
Ozzy Osbourne
Radiohead
Elon Musk
PewDiePie
Elton John
Jay Leno
Rick James
Korn
>(like Clooney)
I know you're NTA, but Clooney's one of their closest friends.
>Ozzy Osbourne
>Radiohead
Both done while the show was still in its young phase.
>Elon Musk
Musk has been in every animated show, to the annoyance of everybody.
>PewDiePie
I doubt their actually friends and that this was probably an easy payday for Felix.
>Elton John
Chef Aid collaborator
>Jay Leno
also a close friend
>Rick James
Chef Aid collaborator
>Korn
Popular band of the then
I know there's more to their special guest history, but bet that some of these guys probably had a passing interest in South Park in the longer run.
Okay, that's all fine and good.
But I was commenting on someway saying "Which is why they never let someone play themselves in South Park"
Which is not true, hence why I listed a bunch of famous people they did like play themselves on South Park.
Matt and Trey are insecure man babies who are so fricking boring the punchline to 3/4s of anything they write is "haha you cared about something" and are a contributing cause to the current "being smart is dumb so I'm going to be the dumbest motherfricking dumbass I can be" trend.
They rail on Family Guy like they didn't have a bigfoot analog called scuttlebutt with Patrick Duffy for a leg or write a big song called "What would Brian Boytano do?" or have the queer eye guys be crab people.
I mean Seth's quality is all over the place, but he's launched way more projects and isn't a complete dickbag every time he goes out in public.
>Matt and Trey are insecure man babies who are so fricking boring the punchline to 3/4s of anything they write is "haha you cared about something"
No it's not. South Park more often tries to have some kind of message to care about more often than it does "nothing matters ecks dee". That's more of a Rick and Morty thing and even that show still commits to some things having meaning. I don't think you actually watched South Park to a significant degree and just got your opinions on it from youtube essay thumbnails and twitter posts.
>but he's launched way more projects
lmao
lamo
I'm sure it's nothing personal, they just don't like Family Guy.
Seth is too busy shitting himself over Bojack and Bob's Burgers.
Seth hasn't write a Family guy episode in years
>South Park hates Family Guy
>Family Guy hates Bojack and Bob's Burgers
>Simpsons and Family Guy throw jabs at each other
>Drawn Together hates South Park
>Bojack hates Family Guy
>Family Guy made fun of Robot Chicken
All of this just confirms that King of the Hill was the true king of US primetime animation
I guess is fair to feel like that nowadays that family guy is "good" because people meme it into relevancy and that new Ted show is decent. But at the end family guy is still shit meme or not and the Ted movies were shit too. Maybe this dates those jokes a little bit but as someone who is not fricking underage I think is still ok for Matt and Tray to feel the way they did.
Family Guy isn't funny beyond the first cancelation so it's okay when South Park does it.
south park went to shit once chef died.
I dislike much South Park but I absolute loathe MacFarlane's entire lifetime of contemptuous garbage.
>South Park constantly shit on Seth MacFarlane and his work
>constantly
>Cartoon Wars March 2006
>A Nightmare on FaceTime October 2012
The hilarious thing about South Park was that they were for Family Guy's existence at the end of that episode and gave an honest critique of the shows writing. The episodes isn't even about ripping on FG but censorship and not giving in to threats.
Here was Family Guy's rebuttal
That scene was deleted, it doesn't count.
t. Seth
Family guy shitting on bobs burgers is one and people are only mad about this now because the twitter hive mind likes the Ted series (because it released at the same time as hasbin hotel which is definitively bad because the autistic hive mind doesn’t like how mainstream it is) which means the movies must’ve always been good and millennials took the southpark episodes in 06 to heart and zoomies act like disagreeing with old millenial opinions is like standing up to their bully since they let them dictate their opinions in 2013 or some shit
Family gays playing victim is too funny
>south park hates seth
>seth is friends with one of the co-creators of drawn together (who hates south park)
were matt and trey jealous of that friendship enough to sabotage drawn together?
nothin is above criticism or mockery. A lot of family guys jokes shit on other shows all the fricking time and they even shit on the Simpsons and bobs burger a lot.
reminder your image is related to straight shota porn.
First of all, based. Second, NW never actually drew her fricking any shotas.
>NW never actually drew her fricking any shotas.
Yes he has. Just look on exhentai
None of the actual sex was drawn by him, it was fanart by others doing his style.
I think it is about the same thing as Seth constantly complaining about Bobs Burgers. Everyone always thinks the show that came after them is derivative and cold never exist without them.
I feel like that's different considering they're both at Fox and likely have their work overlap in some capacity.
South Park's been shit for a long time, but imagine defending Family Guy of all shows.
Fatt and Trey (of fast food) hit the wall years ago. Seth on the other hand ages like a vampire. I stopped supporting their work when they shit on Isaac Hayes as he was on his death bed, probably because he was among the first to sniff out their hypocrisy.
That was his Scientologist handlers being offended on his behalf, Hayes Jr has basically said as much.
Can I just say that I actually think its a good thing that Seth and the SP guys have an antagonistic relationship.
There's too much buddy-buddy in Hollywood and I think if they got along and started to share ideas and influence each other it would just make both shows even worse.
Nu American dad >>> Modern Shit Park
I know this is just a Sourh Park vs Family Guy bait thread, but Bill Watterson fricking hates Garfield and he especially hated U.S. Acres (for some reason he thought the latter was popular despite it only lasting three years). Meanwhile Jim Davis had a lot of respect for Watterson and was sad when he ended Calvin and Hobbes
Why hasn't South Park made fun of Biden yet?
because Trump keeps writing better material
This. And they've already done plenty of old man material with Billy's Grandad.
Trumps is the gift that keeps on giving to comedians.
He really isn't. The problem with Trump is that he would outdo himself so frequently that every topical joke about him has a shelf life of 2 weeks. Imagine debuting a new joke that you think is special worthy only to be met with "Why are you talking about that? It's ancient history" when it isn't even a month old.
They could've pulled an entire arc bit about Stan's granddad magically winning the election despite not campaigning and being dead last in popularity polling, and then having him dotter about the whitehouse as a senile old bastard. Just like they did with Garrison. It might not have been especially funny, but it at least would've been principled. But they didn't even consider it because Biden is on "their team" so they grit their teeth and bear it whilst Biden makes a fool of himself and the country.
Take your /misc/shit talking points leave.
>call michael jackson a homosexual
>take your shit to /misc/
the frick is wrong with you?
well you didn't answer my question, which was entirely Cinemaphile related... how well has orange cyclops Blumpf from numaniacs aged?
>Drrump is................ le never ending source of comedic material
You were saying this 8 years ago and it wasn't even true then.
>molly mgee gay
It's always a pedophile.
that isnt a delusional, comedically deaf shitlib?
look at how well the trump jokes in nuManiacs aged lol
Hillary lost LOL
This seethe is pretty ironic from the fanbase that cheered over “Normal words, but a horse guy!”
FG gays are the very definition of "can dish it, but can't take it". They try to mock Bojack and even take credit for its cancelation (somehow), but bring up South Park and they try to deflect that Matt and Trey are stupid libcucks or something.
What seethe? I have literally never seen one FG fan upset about this.
Now South Parkgays on the other hand, can't keep family guy out of their minds
>What seethe
Scroll back up and look at the OP again
>Simpsons make a second long joke calling Family Guy plagiarists
>Family Guy retaliates by having Quagmire rape Marge and shoot her and the rest of the family
>Seth seethes that FX has that scene cut because he was just "Jabbing them back"
Why is he such a pussy?
Drawn together creators vs South park
This is a pretty normal episode of South Park, especially early seasons, tbqh
OMG i just noticed that kenny is the only one surviving that bloodbath.
I must be mistaken, but wasn't the Drawn Together staff's hatred of South Park less on the show itself and more that Comedy Central continued to hold the show abover their heads as to what they needed to aspire for?
I forgot if it was legit Comedy Central cancelling them for not being as popular was true or not.
the whole drawn together movie shits on south park a lot, it's the whole plotline of it
Hard reaching, all of this. None of Chef’s episode for example was shitting on Hayes, he was brainwashed by actual molestors (all white) then broke free and saved the kids and they all mourned his loss
Fricking hell all of Chef’s jokes while he was on the show were just jokes about how big his dick is because he’s black, and how every woman in South Park wants him to frick them
In hindsight Matt n Trey were always lefty blacked fetish cucks
>None of Chef’s episode for example was shitting on Hayes
except for the chef soundboard of him wanting to rape the kids, then the violent even for south park death they gave him. you cant tell me that wasnt shitting on him
The whole entire plot was that he didn’t, and was brainwashed, and so they break him out of it. A character dying isn’t shitting on or insulting them either.
but he also went back to the group that brainwashed him him. and having chef fall off a burning bridge onto some sharp crags, be impaled on a log, be slowly ripped apart by two animals then have him literally shit on himself is shitting on him. all the times kenny had died from crazy shit hes never died in such a way.
That entire episode was made because they were told Hayes hated their show now due to the scientology episode. They WERE too harsh and now that Hayes is dead they have to live with the fact they dishonored his memory over a lie for the rest of their lives. They never mentally recovered from that, too, and it shows.
This was more the fault of those around hayes controlling him. The episode specifically targeted the "fruity little club".
The joke of bloods and crips were that Jimmy and Timmy misunderstood what blood and crips meant because only Jimmy and Timmy are moronic
The Michael Jackson ep was about how white cops love to “frame” “innocent” Black folk
It didn't become safe to shit on Michael Jackson until after he became white
Didn't he only start acting like a loon after he became white?
He was always a homosexual and easy to make fun of.
He wasn't (falsely) accused of molesting kids until 1992 or 1993, a few years after he had committed to public whiteface. He didn't really change his behaviour, it's just the vampires descended upon him when they thought his blood would be tastiest.
Bojack creator getting butthurt about a throwaway Family Guy gag
Family Guy made a random joke and moved on but Bojackers seethe to this day
Looks like he's just throwing heat back, to me. And it's a good riff. FG is pure highschooler grade comedy.
Love that mentality. We picked on you, but wtf are you swinging back for??
BoJack as far as i know has never referenced Family Guy.
>seth is almost 51
The last time I checked his wiki page I remember him having just turned 44. What the frick guys.
>Family Guy makes several potshots to Bob's Burgers
>current showrunners (not Seth) have been noted that they are jealous of Bob's Burgers
>meanwhile Bob's Burgers mentions nothing about Family Guy
To be fair I don't really see the problem with shows ribbing each other if they're on the same network. It's almost like a sibling rivalry thing. The South Park thing though was just a hack job aimed at their competition.
I think and do what South Park say.
I think Cinemaphile is just looking for drama where there is none. These showrunners all have it made, they're locked into syndication for eternity. They've won at life. You don't have to have hurt feelings to throw shade at another show. That's just what you do in a parody format.
That doesn't mean I think it's always in good taste though, that Simpsons bumper where Glenn rapes Marge until she likes it and kills Maggie is just kinda... much.
kek this guy still makes videos?
Yes and in this video he also claims that people who are still left doing Youtube videos are too untalented and unpleasant to find work in real media.
... And yes, that is coming from a man who has been on Youtube for at least 16 years and it's public knowledge that his attempts to be a professional critic (as in hired) has resulted in him getting fired three times...
the Bobmob won...
She apologised to him
I'm not watching that moron's shit. What dumb frick shit did he say this time?
Moviebob is such a sad person
Why do millennials talk like this? They can't talk like normal human beings, they always speak with this obnoxious air of condension, snark and passive aggressivism. If the normal sentence was "I think The Simpsons is overrated; South Park was always funnier", the millennial version would be "Ummmm okay? When are we gonna talk about how 90% percent of South Park is secretly better than the Simpsons, actually"
Zero testosterone, so they are afraid of having to commit to something out of fear of being confronted on it. They always try to word things such that they personally are disassociated from the contents of the statement. Look at your hypothetical, at how it's worded more to appeal to popularity. Not a statement of personal belief, but rather "X is a fact and there is something wrong with YOU if you disagree. Don't shoot the messenger ;)"
They were a bit right-wing but over the course of the show started turning center-left. Hell. They made a whole apology two-parter for their climate change denial. morons should really stop trying so hard to own them for their political views. They change. We change. Cartman has always been the villain.
Clearly early SP was better than early FG, and modern FG is better than modern SP. When did the cross happen?
>Modern FG is better than modern SP
South Park died at Chef’s Death. Its funeral was at You’re Getting Old.
Everything following that is Nu-Park. Most of it isn’t watchable.
Covid special was good.
ah yes the old "we raided the house of this right-wing anti-glowie guy and he had 600 zettabytes of child porn!!!" set piece
South Park is in no possition to mock another's work.
Think they are since Matt and Trey are billionaires from their work.
>South Park never made fun of John K even after he talked shit about the show countless times
Really makes you think.
Trey and Matt were always above making fun of kid's cartoons for a laugh because they were never vying for eyes that were already watching kid's cartoons. Hell, they didn't even bother pointing the finger at FOX's lineup because they still can't say certain words on-air.
Because it's beneath both of them and, as far as anyone can tell, they've never watched kid's cartoons to see what's popular.
They had an entire episode centered around Pokémon, specifically the anime.
>specifically the anime.
Yeah, not.
Kenny had a seizure from the show as a direct parody of the Porygon episode.
And? Which pokemon character died as a result of an epileptic seizure?
And when was the epilepsy episode of Pokemon shown in America?
The point is it's specifically making reference to an event that happened linked to the anime. I know you can't really be this dense.
We're talking about cartoons, not anime. Keep the frick up or get out.
>Cartoons from the States are cartoons
>Cartoons from Canada are cartoons
>Cartoons from France are cartoons
>Cartoons from England are cartoons
>NO, CARTOONS FROM JAPAN AREN'T CARTOONS B-BECAUSE THEY JUST AREN'T!
>I AM SILLY!
I win.
I accept you giving up the argument.
they don't give a frick about animation they have said they don't like ren and stimpy because the animation is too smooth or some shit. literally they're untalented nepo babies who lucked into were they are.
>they're untalented nepo babies who lucked into were they are.
you're moronic
It doesn’t take skills to design a show like South Park. Literally anyone could do it. Hell, there’s tons of SP clones on Newgrounds.
without the writing
>this post
Holy shit, when were you last online? Do you know what year it is?
>Family Guy made fun of Robot Chicken for making pop culture references
>A majority of Family Guy's humor is just making pop culture references
Family Guy constantly shit on Bojack's work, but as far as I know Bojack never even knew Family Guy existed.
You can have it one way, but not both.
>constantly
What other time other than "normal words"?
>but as far as I know Seth never even knew SP existed
Are you moronic? Seth was a writer on cartoons at a time when South Park was literally the biggest show on the planet. You couldn't walk down a street without seeing people wearing merch.
honestly I'd say Family Guy's jabs at Robot Chicken, Bob's Burgers, and even The Cleveland Show* were a LOT meaner(and not even the funny or clever kinds of mean, just bitter hatefulness) than South Park's jabs at Family Guy and Ted
*the others make sense in a "making fun of the competition" kind of way but them doing cracks at Cleveland Show after it ended and Cleveland returned to Family Guy always felt self defeating on top of being weirdly bitter to a sibling series
Sad