not a plothole, rednecks are all suffering from severe heavy metal poisoning and do bizarre, moronic things all the time >you now remember that they sabotaged their own communities' power supply during an unusually cold winter to fight da power
>best sci-fi in the last 30 years easy >morons get filtered by its core concept of non-linear time
This film right here is why Hollywood doesn't care about writing good films because all the dipshits have proven they'd rather watch poorly-written schlock like Interstellar as long as the soundtrack slaps
Interstellar and this shit are identical slop. The fact you cant discern that makes you dumber than some countryside chink that only knows how to farm rice.
>seething contrarian
Woah, you're so cool the way you just hate everything. That totally makes you unique and not at all the homosexual that people accuse you of being
>Interstellar and this shit are identical slop
Not even close to an accurate statement. This movie had actual themes that tied into the sci-fi elements. Interstellar is like if an 'I fricking LOVE science' dweeb tried to write a movie
I think the idea of seeing the future just by learning a language is moronic, but that doesnt mean the message of the movie about peace and acceptance or whatever was bad.
So I could understand someones suspension of disbelief failing at the reveal of that, but I don't think that'd count as getting filtered
>the message of the movie about peace and acceptance or whatever >I don't think that'd count as getting filtered
I can't imagine what is getting filtered more than simply missing the major themes of the movie
That being said, the language time travel thing is a stretch and I could see how someone would be taken out of the movie by that
>Meet aliens >Not using maths to initiate communication >Using linguists and stick men
It's not a bad movie, but come on anon, it's not great either, certainly not one without fault.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_script
Plebbit is to think linguistics makes any sense to an alien entity, when we can't even figure out the language and script of some humans that lived a few thousand years ago, despite having a couple of thousand of tablets of their writings.
>story is a short story about how learning a language can change our perception >what if a language existed that allowed us to predict the future?
and then hollywood gets involved and adds alien attacks and action for no fricking reason. It was just a simple philosophical story about language
Am I the only one who thought she was a massive fricking c**t for doing this? There is no other motivation than ego for knowing you are going to put a kid through that, then do it anyways.
you're undermining what a mind blowing narrative device the twist was, the movie wouldn't even be half as notable or memorable without that element. in fact the ENTIRE THEME of the movie rides on the wonky timeline shit, cmon now
the story had wonky timeline stuff too, it just didn't have any of the political intrigue. I didn't like the extra political shit with potential war and the action scenes. Thats all
She intentionally killed her child and ruined a mans life. She knew the child is doomed from the start, she knew the father would suffer from this. Yet she does it anyway because YOLO. No stupid character decisions btw.
Your child is always doomed to die the moment you conceive them. This does not make life not worth living. Way to completely miss the fricking point, brainlet
You missed yhe hidden point of the movie, - it is a child killing propaganda. Women can be prostitutes and abort their babies when they get pregnant, since as you say, "children are doomed to die anyway, so why not kill them earlier, teehee". Fathers have no say in this, just how this movie depicts. She did what she wanted because she is a stupid selfish woman!
No, i am right! She waited for years to tell the father that the child is doomed. She was so full of herself all those years, savoring each moment of the poor child's fate. And then she decided it was not enough and it's time to finally bring the missery on the father. What a vile b***h! Imagine if your wife suddenly came out to you with this information, that there is a well-known genetic illness running in her family and she knew all this time that your 3 year old child would inherit it too, and that it will die soon. What a b***h!
If the aliens could see the future and they knew the bomb was going to happen why didn't they let the humans have the full language like 10 minutes earlier so they could get out before it exploded and killed one of them?
> Chinese use Mahjong to communicate instead of using a regular linguist > They make a mistake because it's a "war like approach"
This movie is unintentionally racist.
No, i am right! She waited for years to tell the father that the child is doomed. She was so full of herself all those years, savoring each moment of the poor child's fate. And then she decided it was not enough and it's time to finally bring the missery on the father. What a vile b***h! Imagine if your wife suddenly came out to you with this information, that there is a well-known genetic illness running in her family and she knew all this time that your 3 year old child would inherit it too, and that it will die soon. What a b***h!
Imagine not wanting to have a child because they would die one day. There would be no reason to ever have children. It anti-natalist seething and clearly was no the point being made in the movie
There's a big difference between knowing that your child will eventually die, likely at a ripe old age, and knowing that your child will die at age 12.
Wool Omnibus
The Mote in God's Eye
A Fire Upon the Deep
>"Sorry kid, you never get to be born and live because I've decided arbitrarily that you will not live long enough for it to matter"
Evil.
Imagine wanting to have a healthy child that will not die a horrible death. Imagine knowing you could've prevented it by adopting a child for example. Imagine knowing your wife lied to you the whole time and she knew that a tragedy could have been averted, but she decided to do it anyway, because she doesn't care about your feelings. Imagine!
She already experienced the life of her child. It wasn't a hypothetical situation anymore for her, it was a life she'd already experienced. Not having her child is like obliterating her from existence, which is a loss even deeper than a loss via death
If you had an ounce of emotional depth, you'd understand this, /misc/cel
>"Sorry kid, you never get to be born and live because I've decided arbitrarily that you will not live long enough for it to matter"
Ok, when you write it like that, maybe you are right, I aggree on that matter. BUT! You can't deny that she was a b***h for not telling the father beforehand, that their child will die early.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah informing him probably would have been better but at the same time, I could see how that would be a horrific conversation to have. He didn't experience the life of their child like she did, and in a certain sense maybe telling him would rob him of the experience of fatherhood. Kinda like spoiling a movie.
I'll grant that's a grey area and you could say a b***h move, though frankly I wouldn't wanna know if I was him
Not wanting a child to suffer is evil, forcing it to suffer is good? This is an absurd argument.
>"This kid has asthma, kill it to end it's suffering"
What are you, Canadian? I know you guys prescribe death to homeless people but in America that's seen as a bit of a sociopathic take.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Asthma isn't an incurable illness. Again, you're being disingenuous here.
10 months ago
Anonymous
back pain isn't incurable either moron, they still tell people to kill themselves for it
10 months ago
Anonymous
Neither is stupidity, which you seem to be badly affected with. I'd tell you to kys, but unfortunately you're too stupid to do it.
The point is, the kid has an incurable illness that will (a) cause her to suffer and (b) kill her at age 12. Likening this to asthma or back pain is pants on head moronic.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Find me the cure to asthma then, you absolute dullard
10 months ago
Anonymous
Asthma can be controlled to the point that the symptoms become negligible.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Asthma isn't incurable >It is >B-b-but it's treatable!
Just take the L moron
10 months ago
Anonymous
As always, the point soars kilometres above your wizened head. Enjoy your life of failure.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Loses argument >Loses spin off argument >Refuses to elaborate >Leaves
Based moron
Imagine wanting to have a healthy child that will not die a horrible death. Imagine knowing you could've prevented it by adopting a child for example. Imagine knowing your wife lied to you the whole time and she knew that a tragedy could have been averted, but she decided to do it anyway, because she doesn't care about your feelings. Imagine!
Anons, I just finished reading The Three Body Problem trilogy and I can't even come to terms with how I feel. That was pure existential dread. What should I watch or read next? Solaris? Project Hail Mary? Contact? I'm basically immaculate when it comes to sci fi.
You don't have to, but it has tons of foreshadowing and "easter eggs" that you won't understand until you read it a second time. It's just interesting to read it again and see all the connections that were made way beforehand
Ringworld
The Forge of God
Revelation Space (it starts of trash, especially jumping between characters, but worldbuilding is great and the latter part of the book is kino, if a trilogy seems too much for a new authro try the novel Pushing Ice)
Tau Zero
Blindsight
This movie completely missed the point of the original story. In the story, the language didnt allow aliens to actually see the future. Its that they perceive reality in teleological terms instead of in cause and effect.
I plan to rewatch this but I remember feeling a bit let down with the visuals. Like this was one of the more bland of Villeneuve’s directing efforts - so of course it’s the only one he got a directing Oscar nomination for
I love redheads.
Amy Adams has a cute voice.
She has a great body.
She's a good enough actress.
But I can't get hard from her - but any other redhead makes me hard.
Is she genetically related to me and that's why she turns me off?
>we need to heckin blow up this spaceship with a few c4
How's that a plothole or even a stupid character decision?
Or a plot hole, American conservatives are literally this braindead.
not a plothole, rednecks are all suffering from severe heavy metal poisoning and do bizarre, moronic things all the time
>you now remember that they sabotaged their own communities' power supply during an unusually cold winter to fight da power
How could he have a daughter without dick and balls?
She was conceived by a time paradox version of his penis from before he got SLEDDED
>dude time is a circle
>therefore they speak in circles dude
Our ancestors did this. The very word art means this. Alpha Ra Tau
>woah i know what will happen in the future
>nooo le destiny can not be avoided
>>nooo le destiny can not be avoided
This never even happened, she didn't even try to change things. Pathetic.
The only thing it was missing was Amy Adams getting HEPTAPODDED by abbot and Costello
Sci-fi movie for women.
>best sci-fi in the last 30 years easy
>morons get filtered by its core concept of non-linear time
This film right here is why Hollywood doesn't care about writing good films because all the dipshits have proven they'd rather watch poorly-written schlock like Interstellar as long as the soundtrack slaps
Interstellar and this shit are identical slop. The fact you cant discern that makes you dumber than some countryside chink that only knows how to farm rice.
>seething contrarian
Woah, you're so cool the way you just hate everything. That totally makes you unique and not at all the homosexual that people accuse you of being
>Interstellar and this shit are identical slop
Not even close to an accurate statement. This movie had actual themes that tied into the sci-fi elements. Interstellar is like if an 'I fricking LOVE science' dweeb tried to write a movie
lmaoo Nolan wishes he still had his touch like Dennis does, Dennis is the new Nolan. You can't redeem garbage like Tenet.
Arrival is slow burning psychological Sci fi. Interstellar is action packed with great visuals. Not comparable but they're both good flicks tbqh
I think the idea of seeing the future just by learning a language is moronic, but that doesnt mean the message of the movie about peace and acceptance or whatever was bad.
So I could understand someones suspension of disbelief failing at the reveal of that, but I don't think that'd count as getting filtered
>the message of the movie about peace and acceptance or whatever
>I don't think that'd count as getting filtered
I can't imagine what is getting filtered more than simply missing the major themes of the movie
That being said, the language time travel thing is a stretch and I could see how someone would be taken out of the movie by that
Good film. I thought that the science teams in different countries all breaking contact with each other was implausible though.
Oh that silly multi-monitor skype call? Yeah that was kinda dumb
>we need le epic woman to think about showing drawings to aliens
>>we need le epic woman to think about showing drawings to aliens
>no potholes
>time travel
>specifically the human consciousness can time travel
>no potholes
uh huh
>potholes
kek, yeah that about sums up the people that were filtered by this
>Meet aliens
>Not using maths to initiate communication
>Using linguists and stick men
It's not a bad movie, but come on anon, it's not great either, certainly not one without fault.
>using maths to initiate communication
Holy fricking plebbit.
"look, 1+1 = 2, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? :D"
people become critics when they can not create
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_script
Plebbit is to think linguistics makes any sense to an alien entity, when we can't even figure out the language and script of some humans that lived a few thousand years ago, despite having a couple of thousand of tablets of their writings.
Maths is a universal language.
While the symbols of maths will mean nothing to them, simple enumeration would
this
0123456789
3.14159(and some more digits of pi for good measure)
1 + 1 = 2
1 - 1 = 0
2 * 2 = 4
2 / 2 = 1
and tadah, they now understand our number system and basic arithmetic
Why does this movie go to shit the second Frankfurter throws that medusa switch?
>story is a short story about how learning a language can change our perception
>what if a language existed that allowed us to predict the future?
and then hollywood gets involved and adds alien attacks and action for no fricking reason. It was just a simple philosophical story about language
yeah and no one would've given a shit, good thing they made it entertaining
sorry I forgot this is a cape shit only board
it has nothing to do with magic or alien action, the point is that she chooses to have the child despite her future knowledge and that's what hits
Am I the only one who thought she was a massive fricking c**t for doing this? There is no other motivation than ego for knowing you are going to put a kid through that, then do it anyways.
you're undermining what a mind blowing narrative device the twist was, the movie wouldn't even be half as notable or memorable without that element. in fact the ENTIRE THEME of the movie rides on the wonky timeline shit, cmon now
the story had wonky timeline stuff too, it just didn't have any of the political intrigue. I didn't like the extra political shit with potential war and the action scenes. Thats all
>Open thread
>Ctrl + F
>Pregnancy
>No results found
How do you discuss this movie without touching on the central theme?
because their is nothing but low IQ zoomers on 4 chan
She intentionally killed her child and ruined a mans life. She knew the child is doomed from the start, she knew the father would suffer from this. Yet she does it anyway because YOLO. No stupid character decisions btw.
Your child is always doomed to die the moment you conceive them. This does not make life not worth living. Way to completely miss the fricking point, brainlet
You going to tell us next that nothing matters anymore because we are all just insignificant specs of star dust?
That's the exact opposite point I'm making, you mong.
she never had a choice. she saw the future and despite the internal conundrum she was always fated to do it
I'm not sure that's the case. Is that ever explicitly stated? I thought she made a choice
I don't remember if it did in the movie. In the book it made it explicitly open for interpretation whether she was fated to or not
Gotcha. I always assumed it was a choice since time travel stories are lame if the characters explicitly have no agency
You missed yhe hidden point of the movie, - it is a child killing propaganda. Women can be prostitutes and abort their babies when they get pregnant, since as you say, "children are doomed to die anyway, so why not kill them earlier, teehee". Fathers have no say in this, just how this movie depicts. She did what she wanted because she is a stupid selfish woman!
>Seething /misc/cel reading into the movie exactly what he wants to read into it
I think you're the one who missed the point, bud.
No, i am right! She waited for years to tell the father that the child is doomed. She was so full of herself all those years, savoring each moment of the poor child's fate. And then she decided it was not enough and it's time to finally bring the missery on the father. What a vile b***h! Imagine if your wife suddenly came out to you with this information, that there is a well-known genetic illness running in her family and she knew all this time that your 3 year old child would inherit it too, and that it will die soon. What a b***h!
If the aliens could see the future and they knew the bomb was going to happen why didn't they let the humans have the full language like 10 minutes earlier so they could get out before it exploded and killed one of them?
> Chinese use Mahjong to communicate instead of using a regular linguist
> They make a mistake because it's a "war like approach"
This movie is unintentionally racist.
No, i am right! She waited for years to tell the father that the child is doomed. She was so full of herself all those years, savoring each moment of the poor child's fate. And then she decided it was not enough and it's time to finally bring the missery on the father. What a vile b***h! Imagine if your wife suddenly came out to you with this information, that there is a well-known genetic illness running in her family and she knew all this time that your 3 year old child would inherit it too, and that it will die soon. What a b***h!
NTA, and I've noticed that you've failed to bring up a single point that contradicts his interpretation. Pretty disingenuous behavior, famalam.
Imagine not wanting to have a child because they would die one day. There would be no reason to ever have children. It anti-natalist seething and clearly was no the point being made in the movie
There's a big difference between knowing that your child will eventually die, likely at a ripe old age, and knowing that your child will die at age 12.
>The Mote in God's Eye
Great book!
>"Sorry kid, you never get to be born and live because I've decided arbitrarily that you will not live long enough for it to matter"
Evil.
She already experienced the life of her child. It wasn't a hypothetical situation anymore for her, it was a life she'd already experienced. Not having her child is like obliterating her from existence, which is a loss even deeper than a loss via death
If you had an ounce of emotional depth, you'd understand this, /misc/cel
>"Sorry kid, you never get to be born and live because I've decided arbitrarily that you will not live long enough for it to matter"
Ok, when you write it like that, maybe you are right, I aggree on that matter. BUT! You can't deny that she was a b***h for not telling the father beforehand, that their child will die early.
Yeah informing him probably would have been better but at the same time, I could see how that would be a horrific conversation to have. He didn't experience the life of their child like she did, and in a certain sense maybe telling him would rob him of the experience of fatherhood. Kinda like spoiling a movie.
I'll grant that's a grey area and you could say a b***h move, though frankly I wouldn't wanna know if I was him
>"This kid has asthma, kill it to end it's suffering"
What are you, Canadian? I know you guys prescribe death to homeless people but in America that's seen as a bit of a sociopathic take.
Asthma isn't an incurable illness. Again, you're being disingenuous here.
back pain isn't incurable either moron, they still tell people to kill themselves for it
Neither is stupidity, which you seem to be badly affected with. I'd tell you to kys, but unfortunately you're too stupid to do it.
The point is, the kid has an incurable illness that will (a) cause her to suffer and (b) kill her at age 12. Likening this to asthma or back pain is pants on head moronic.
Find me the cure to asthma then, you absolute dullard
Asthma can be controlled to the point that the symptoms become negligible.
>Asthma isn't incurable
>It is
>B-b-but it's treatable!
Just take the L moron
As always, the point soars kilometres above your wizened head. Enjoy your life of failure.
>Loses argument
>Loses spin off argument
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
Based moron
Not wanting a child to suffer is evil, forcing it to suffer is good? This is an absurd argument.
Imagine wanting to have a healthy child that will not die a horrible death. Imagine knowing you could've prevented it by adopting a child for example. Imagine knowing your wife lied to you the whole time and she knew that a tragedy could have been averted, but she decided to do it anyway, because she doesn't care about your feelings. Imagine!
Anons, I just finished reading The Three Body Problem trilogy and I can't even come to terms with how I feel. That was pure existential dread. What should I watch or read next? Solaris? Project Hail Mary? Contact? I'm basically immaculate when it comes to sci fi.
Wool Omnibus
The Mote in God's Eye
A Fire Upon the Deep
Forgot to mention The Book of the new Sun (have to read it twice though)
I've heard good.things about that one. Why do you say twice? Is it very hard?
You don't have to, but it has tons of foreshadowing and "easter eggs" that you won't understand until you read it a second time. It's just interesting to read it again and see all the connections that were made way beforehand
Ringworld
The Forge of God
Revelation Space (it starts of trash, especially jumping between characters, but worldbuilding is great and the latter part of the book is kino, if a trilogy seems too much for a new authro try the novel Pushing Ice)
Tau Zero
Blindsight
Wait 6 months and watch Three Body Problem, or watch the Chinese version right now. Those books were great
This movie completely missed the point of the original story. In the story, the language didnt allow aliens to actually see the future. Its that they perceive reality in teleological terms instead of in cause and effect.
I plan to rewatch this but I remember feeling a bit let down with the visuals. Like this was one of the more bland of Villeneuve’s directing efforts - so of course it’s the only one he got a directing Oscar nomination for
>on the nature of daylight starts playing in anything
I cri evrytiem
I love redheads.
Amy Adams has a cute voice.
She has a great body.
She's a good enough actress.
But I can't get hard from her - but any other redhead makes me hard.
Is she genetically related to me and that's why she turns me off?
does she look like your mum? My mom has gapped front teeth(which I also got) so ruins quite a few actresses for me.
>stupid character decision
That was the entire movie
>no plot holes
>language can alter time for no explainable reason
yea ok
This trash is for girls and pussywhipped betas
>t. brainlet