>Just found out that open mattes are a thing
Holy shit. These are amazing. Its like watching the film fresh. No more black bars Cinemaphile
Open Mattes
>Just found out that open mattes are a thing
Holy shit. These are amazing. Its like watching the film fresh. No more black bars Cinemaphile
yes. not everything has one, though.
a shame. Looking through rutracker i re-downloaded dozens of films i had seen before in open matte. It really should be the standard for Blu ray releases with the option to switch to the original film aspect ratio. Films are not made for the format they are most widely watched on, which is 16:9 tvs.
yeah it irks me greatly
people will moan about muh artistic intent but a 16:9 aspect ratio makes certain shots even better imo.
hopefully studios release more. disney a few months ago released some mcu films in imax which isn't 16:9 but it's close.
>put thousands of hours of work in creating an image through cgi/minatures/whatever
>decide to cut of 1/3rd of that image for no reason other than it fitting some autist aspect ratio
directors really are moronic arent they?
yeah that's a major thing i don't understand
What are those black bars anyways? Never thought why they are there
>autist aspect ratio
They are supposed to fit the wall size of the cinema. Audiences like wide screens, or at least used to like it five years ago.
I know it's weird to hear this because everything is software now, but there used to be physical constraints in every format.
yeah but why even create all the cgi in 16:9 and then lop it off and never release it on bluray or something
Because effects shots used to be shot in vistavision, which has greater film area and 16:9 format.
i think 2:35:1 is used for a variety of reasons. One of them being that it is easier to crop a 4:3 35mm film image to 2:35:1 than it is to crop it to 16:9 when you factor in framing etc. Look at this open matte from jurassic park as an example.
I get releasing the film in 2:35:1 in the cinema but there should be an option to view the film in 16:9 on bluray or streaming or whatever. Audiences prefer imax (16:9) over widescreen anyway. Widescreen is simply a leftover artifact from when film was a physical medium. Things can be shot and shown in any aspect ratio now. Directors are simply accustomed to 2:35:1 because it has been the long standing industry standard.
>i think 2:35:1 is used for a variety of reasons. One of them being that it is easier to crop a 4:3 35mm film image to 2:35:1 than it is to crop it to 16:9 when you factor in framing etc. Look at this open matte from jurassic park as an example.
No. 2.35 is used because it was the equivalent to use an anamorphic lens (wikipedia has a long explanation about formats) but super35 comes down to adapting to the wall size, which comes from anamorphic lens size.
There was no difference for a lab to crop to 2.35 or 1.85 or whatever, as long as the film grain size was controlled.
fair enough anon. Either way, cinemas arent the primary way people experience films any more. Open mattes should be the standard for home release.
I love that you can see a boom mic at 1:24
>Audiences like wide screens
they don't. it was forced onto them by theaters to allow more seats. no one asked for widescreen except theaters.
they did tho
see: the largest namecheck in this poster goes to cinemascope
so you proof is a marketing gimmick? lmao
consooooom
Why is 16:9 the standard ratio?
How do I into rutracker?
either translate the page and sign up for an account or just download jackett and add rutracker to your list of torrent trackers.
Does it have ratio restrictions?
not that i know of . I never seed and have had an account for like 6 years.
blame IMAX for keeping the format exclusive to their cinemas. They literally force them to letterbox the movie for other cinemas and home releases. Only recently have we started to see some movies appear in their proper IMAX formats, like Marvel movies on Disney+. God knows how much they had to fork over to let them do it.
bottom looks better
>rutracker
Anyone else having contant timeouts trying to connect to it the last few weeks? Haven't had any luck getting it to load in forever it feels like
Open Matte made it look like the girl standing is the boss. Certain aspect ratios are chosen as to how the film convey info.
people like you are why they use filters
I fricking hate filters. Once O' Brother started popularizing it, most people apply it just be dark and edgy. For fricks sake, Applying a blue filter on a children's comic book does not make it mature.
>WHATS IN THE BOXXX
>you don't like real girls
he's literally me
but the VFX shots are still 2,35:1, aren't they?
depends on the film and the shots. BR 2049 or alita are examples of the whole movie being shot in 16:9 and then cut down in post, including the vfx shots.
Something like LOTR is a hybrid fan made matte with some shots in 2:35:1 but most of them in 16:9.
It seems as though newer films always have vfx shots in 16:9 then cut down while the older films dont.
You zoomies just want all media to eventually be consumed in potrait mode
the absolute worst ones are like the dark knight rises where the aspect ratio is constantly changing between shots
I'm OK with that. Changing the aspect ratio depending on what they are showing makes sense.
that was nolan's autism wanting very specific action shots to be in imax in order to justify selling imax tickets for the films.
there's nothing wrong with that. IMAX cameras are fricking huge and can't really be used for every shot in a movie. So you either have to letterbox the entire thing, or just switch aspect ratios to maintain the original footage. It's the better option imo.
It looks dumb as frick and it takes you out of the movie everytime it happens
aw poor fragile little baby cant take the shock of having some more pixels on the screen
you keep blaming Nolan but the Marvel IMAX movies do it too. Pretty much every IMAX movie does. It's just the way it is.
It's only the way it is because Nolan trailblazed that lazy approach and everyone follows. There's no legit reason we can't have feature length IMAX films by now.
Iron Man and The Dark Knight came out in the same year.
IMAX cameras can be used in every shot, Nolan just won't do it because of audio autism. Also, if he had shot with spherical lenses instead of anamorphic he could have achieved a 1.43:1 ratio for the whole movie with his dual formats, and it probably would've looked better on the IMAX screen than what he ended up with.
or, and i'm going to use resolution for this not aspect because i can't be bothered figuring that out
just say imax is 1920x1040 (again, made up, i know it's actual resolution is much higher)
regular cameras are filming in 1920x1080 (again, made up, they're 4k or higher)
letterbox is 1920x800
they can easily edit the 1920x1080 down to 1920x1040 instead of 1920x800 and be so jarring
you may now call me an idiot and none of that makes sense
I honestly don't fricking know m8. But I think it might have something to do with IMAX cameras being "full frame", meaning they have a much wider field of view than regular cameras. So if you shot a movie with both cameras then you have no choice but to present that footage as-is, which means it appears cropped when in reality it isn't really. It's just they don't have the extra space that IMAX affords.
full frame just refers to the sensor size, you can still mix formats by shooting with an equivalent lens and nobody will notice
it's not like audiences sit down to examine the telecentricity of the lens in every shot
>aspect ratio is constantly changing between shots
Michael Bay is probably the worst offender of that.
Movies look like a school play without the kino bars.
How do I search for open matte movies in pirate sites?
type in "open matte"
put open matte in the search engine and press enter
There aren't many on rarbg
there's not particularly many movies with an open matte version
try another site
rutor, rutracker, torlook, ibit.
Alternatively download jackett. It comes pre-loaded with all of the big torrent trackers and you can search directly in your web browser.
the open matte of Titanic is pure kino.
Open matte or even full screen edits often reveal hidden detail
Need open Matte Mimi Rogers movie and Showgirls.
Open matte 4:3 shows even more vertically.
people would just focus on her breasts, which is not director's intent.
Homo
who cares what the director's intent is? "director's intent" is something invented by George Lucas. the viewer's intent is what really matters.