Okay, so the whole the bad guys are actually the victim and death after eating shugod's soul is something they bullshit up later for sob's story, right?
Dethnarok spent the early episodes commanding his minions to kill themselves for victory and bragging about how they had no fear of death, so the whole thing about shugod souls actually poisoning them fits with what's already been established.
I guess his illusion powers make him able to resist it and have some spiritual form.
Gerojim can survive death, remember Racles killed him the first time with Sasorina's venom and he came back from the dead. So his powerset seems to enable either resurrection or he is in an in-between state of life-death.
[...]
Gerojim can survive death, remember Racles killed him the first time with Sasorina's venom and he came back from the dead. So his powerset seems to enable either resurrection or he is in an in-between state of life-death.
the obvious answer is he's a mayfly with an incredibly short lifespan and it's been a different geroujim each week
Good episode, but all the memes of “King Ohger season 2” made me think it would be a conclusive ending for this part of the story, but it just settles Jeramie’s story. The rest just get to assist him.
I really like it when the resolution doesn't come down to a giant monster fight. Gira and Jeramie putting their all into finally getting Deathnarok to see that another path isn't such an impossible ask was incredibly moving.
So the next big bad is basically a robo? Was Kamejim a robo body all along?
Yeah, his crimes were too great to make it out alive and clearly even his soldiers were starting to turn against him, but at least he was repentant in the end and nominally bequeathed his place to Jeramie.
I'm not trying to assign blame, I'm asking "Why, in a story about ending the cycle of violence between two parties, is there a third party that stands in center stage and screams "Actually, I did it all!"?
Because it needs to tie in with the unreliable history themes. Somebody still has to have fired the first shot if it wasn't the humans or the main Bugnarok faction. You could say that it could've been "no one knows who actually attacked first" instead of making it Kamejim being the mastermind, but clearly the show still has plans for that character, so him having been in that position will be important going forward. We have to look at this through the lens of the story not being over yet.
I'm not trying to assign blame, I'm asking "Why, in a story about ending the cycle of violence between two parties, is there a third party that stands in center stage and screams "Actually, I did it all!"?
This was a really good episode for Gira. Comparing how anti-Bugnarok he was before to now shows how far he's come. In the end, this is Jeramie's show though. His ideals won out. Everyone thought he was stupid and idealistic, including Gira and Jeramie himself, but Gira finally understood it all in the end.
I am gonna be real honest with you, anon.
I don't think that King-Ohger has had any "bad" episodes yet.
We're 26 episodes in and at its very worst it was still average with most episodes being good and some great episodes sprinkled in.
Let's hope they keep going strong and don't frick up part 2.
He's still a bug, he's modeled after a stink bug.
https://twitter.com/YOGOYUKI/status/1680641277816352770 All of the new generals after the timeskip are bug or bug adjacent critters too
I totally forgot about Racles. Did he really die after falling off that cliff? Last time we "see" him is a gag where his coffin gets carried out of the throne room. Or is he coming back after the time skip?
He wanted the impartial judge to see things firsthand, and to me it seemed like it was just a silly gag that she was afraid of going into the caves like a big baby.
The fact that she hides that eye constantly seems to imply she's ashamed of it
Jeramie's mother apparently lived in the Northern caves near Gokkan
Making sure she's the one there to see the Bugnarak country, she's the one who actually declares that it's accepted by the other 5 Kingdoms
There could be something there with her being part Bugnarak
He wanted the impartial judge to see things firsthand, and to me it seemed like it was just a silly gag that she was afraid of going into the caves like a big baby.
She's part Bugnarak.
[...]
[...]
The fact that she hides that eye constantly seems to imply she's ashamed of it
Jeramie's mother apparently lived in the Northern caves near Gokkan
Making sure she's the one there to see the Bugnarak country, she's the one who actually declares that it's accepted by the other 5 Kingdoms
There could be something there with her being part Bugnarak
You guys are overthinking it. It could be as simple as Jeremy wanting to show a fellow Gokkanian how the Bugnarak live and Rita not wanting to go the extra mile cause her Moffun plushes need her back home.
Rita is the judge and Jeramie was going to fight Dethnarok for the Bugnarok throne. She's there for the same reason she was for Gira vs Racles, to officialize it and make it more than a mere assassination.
So is this the best sentai series for anyone else in a long, long, looong time? Good music, fun characters, proper character arcs, villains with motives that arent just "muahaha, i want to rule the world!", season long serialized plot. Its good stuff. I havent enjoyed one this much in a while and really look forward to each new episode to see what happens next.
My only complaints are the CGI backgrounds look really goofy sometimes, but I understand it saves money and lets them have all sorts of crazy places they couldnt afford to do for real, and I kinda hate that they still have to fight a monster every week. Kinda wish they would introduce less enemies, and have them hang around longer before having to fight and die.
I get that for the really crazy places like shugoddom bridge, but most of the locations (Himeno's room, Kaguragi's room, snow landscape, fricking country road) could have and should have been made, either on studio, or barely modifying some location.
How would you realize the Flopital Castle throne room in studio? It's the largest virtual space created in the whole show outside of the various Shugoddom locations.
The whole point was to create an outlandish fantasy world that couldnt be realized with traditional sets. You could hypothetically make anything work with good enough location scouting/set designers, but that goes against the ethos for this series. It simply wouldn't have been made if they weren't going to use the LED Studio. Omori said that's why they decided to do a fantasy series in the first place.
That's the thing: it could be realized with traditional sets. At least most of them. Kaguragi's room would look way better if it was actually build.
They could also combine the LED studio with more practical effects.
As I said, I'm only judging the result, don't know their resources so I can't judge their decisions or their work.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not to the scale they want it can't. They're not going to shell out for a multi-level open air throne room or a consistently frozen castle exterior. Normally I would be very anti-LED. A lot of shows use it unecessarily, and arguably the one regular location it's unecessary for is the Toufu throne room. I'm assuming it's to keep it of a piece with the rest of the world and maintain the sense of immersion (the more you see regular locations, the more it draws attention to the LED locations). It's not perfect at all and does take me out of the show once in a while, but I really appreciate their vision and uncompromosing ambition in this case.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think the decision to do the Toufu throne the same way is not an aesthetic consistency one (we had a major battle in a real set) but a pragmatic one.
In the first Toufu episode we even had a green screen for a field. A damn field. It seems the couldn't, either for budget or time restrictions, get to a damn field (and I am not being ironic here).
For the sets you say, they could build miniatures for the external shots, and then build the interior, combined with LED, to achieve a better result.
But I am actually on the same page as you, I like their ambition and I am enjoying this season, it's just that sensation when you see a scene that could have "easily" been done better with a more traditional mindset.
They don't have the budget if it wasn't obvious enough especially right given the state of their revenue streams. That's why Omori's team took the job to gain experience with the LED Greenscreen. But it's pretty clear this is a budget show that's making due with greenscreen and cheap Chinese contractors.
Anon the last time we had even full MotW suits was four seasons ago. If they don't have enough budget for that then they definitely don't have enough budget to make way more sets than a standard season would have gotten, let alone ones meant for royalty.
You know, I don't think explaining this was the smart idea if you wanted them to still stay at war considering now they know it wasn't just Jeramie's fault but now it's primarily Kamejim's. You basically just proved to Bugnarok's citizens that their hatred belongs against you, not humanity, and guarantee they'll team up against you. Plausible deniability that the humans did it would be the smarter idea.
>tells husband nothing and makes him afk in jail in convoluted plot till rita manages to find obscure evidence
Look man, Humans and bugs arent the smartest fricks in that universe.
One of the Kings (probably the parents of Gira/Racles) was probably responsible for the Rage of the Gods. That's probably the explaination for not telling Rita until they thought she was ready.
That makes sense, it's just weird that even in private they make it ambiguous, but then again Rita is autistic as hell so it can be sometimes too much for Morphine at times.
Look. When you've got a 2000+ year prank going on and the idiots involved are ruining it by being such baby pissants for something as stupid as not wanting to perpetuate cycles of retaliation BEFORE your target audience gets to see it you'd be seething so hard that stuff like that doesn't even matter anymore now that it's all gone up in smokes just because that stupid little black shit lost his rageboner at the end.
At that point I think he just does not care about keeping the farce up since the alien invasion is imminent. Besides, he had to pin down Dethnarok so the nuke hit, so he'd need to reveal himself anyway.
He's gonna be the final boss, isn't he?
If the show is based he will be, but I bet it's gonna be the evil space lord
Okay, so the whole the bad guys are actually the victim and death after eating shugod's soul is something they bullshit up later for sob's story, right?
Dethnarok spent the early episodes commanding his minions to kill themselves for victory and bragging about how they had no fear of death, so the whole thing about shugod souls actually poisoning them fits with what's already been established.
It was absolutely bullshit the writers made up later, and decided to throw in this scene as a handwave "haha don't worry about it" jab.
So is Gerojim dead? I don't get it
I guess his illusion powers make him able to resist it and have some spiritual form.
Gerojim can survive death, remember Racles killed him the first time with Sasorina's venom and he came back from the dead. So his powerset seems to enable either resurrection or he is in an in-between state of life-death.
the obvious answer is he's a mayfly with an incredibly short lifespan and it's been a different geroujim each week
>each Gerojim is the child of the previous one
And so, Deathnarok's words ring true even now.
One day that illusion will disappear
>You gotta let me go.
>I already died once.
wienerroach
Kind of disturbing to think that what Jeremy showed them was pretty much the Chikyuu equivalent of pic related.
All I know is that one day someone will own enough Cicadas to recreate that scene and I am waiting.
How do you rate the first half of the show?
Fun. 8/10 because I was entertained all the way through, only problem is the current set of villains (besides Daigorg) felt weak.
is this the fastest OT has put out subs ever
Nah, they've been faster before, but this is definitely quicker than normal.
It's what happens when I get my turn while I'm still awake
Good episode, but all the memes of “King Ohger season 2” made me think it would be a conclusive ending for this part of the story, but it just settles Jeramie’s story. The rest just get to assist him.
Is this dude's head a literal fish in a bowl?
It's a weird wienerpit space helmet for a tiny creature I think
>The emperor of the universe is a tiny insignificant creature hidden inside a powerful body
That's fricking awesome
I really like it when the resolution doesn't come down to a giant monster fight. Gira and Jeramie putting their all into finally getting Deathnarok to see that another path isn't such an impossible ask was incredibly moving.
So the next big bad is basically a robo? Was Kamejim a robo body all along?
He's a tardigrade. Those things known for surviving outerspace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade
Black Sun but good
But Black Sun is already good
Not after the way it ended
It had a well written, realistic ending
>racism victims decide to become terrorists who use child soldiers
>realistic
Shut up
It's to portray a never ending cycle of vengeance and hatred.
>virgin black sun never ending cycle ft child terrorists
>chad King Ohger breaking the cycle
Definitely more enjoyable than Black Shit
The best villain redemptions are when they die so I'm satisfied with Deathnarok's end.
Yeah, his crimes were too great to make it out alive and clearly even his soldiers were starting to turn against him, but at least he was repentant in the end and nominally bequeathed his place to Jeramie.
>message of ending the cycle of violence regardless of who is to blame
>completely undercut by a third party declaring they are the ones to blame.
The whole point is who started it doesn't matter.
Then why have a character scream "IT WAS ME, I STARTED IT?"
Because it needs to tie in with the unreliable history themes. Somebody still has to have fired the first shot if it wasn't the humans or the main Bugnarok faction. You could say that it could've been "no one knows who actually attacked first" instead of making it Kamejim being the mastermind, but clearly the show still has plans for that character, so him having been in that position will be important going forward. We have to look at this through the lens of the story not being over yet.
Kamejim incited it but he didn't pull the trigger
If you think about it, that's what makes Kamejim so scary. He never broke any laws and no court could ever prosecute him.
I'm not trying to assign blame, I'm asking "Why, in a story about ending the cycle of violence between two parties, is there a third party that stands in center stage and screams "Actually, I did it all!"?
This was a really good episode for Gira. Comparing how anti-Bugnarok he was before to now shows how far he's come. In the end, this is Jeramie's show though. His ideals won out. Everyone thought he was stupid and idealistic, including Gira and Jeramie himself, but Gira finally understood it all in the end.
A pity the movie is set before this, it'd have been nice to see Jeramie have a talk with a redeemed Dethnarok in the afterlife.
OH N-
Kingohger is crazy good this week
I am gonna be real honest with you, anon.
I don't think that King-Ohger has had any "bad" episodes yet.
We're 26 episodes in and at its very worst it was still average with most episodes being good and some great episodes sprinkled in.
Let's hope they keep going strong and don't frick up part 2.
I'm have faith in King Kyoryu Red carrying Part 2
If we're being honest, I've been enjoying Reiwa Sentai way more than Reiwa Rider
>Kamejin was an alien bastard all along
Should have known when that homie had no insect parts and a popped collar made of books.
He's still a bug, he's modeled after a stink bug.
https://twitter.com/YOGOYUKI/status/1680641277816352770
All of the new generals after the timeskip are bug or bug adjacent critters too
Wait, wait wait waitwaitwait wait.
I totally forgot about Racles. Did he really die after falling off that cliff? Last time we "see" him is a gag where his coffin gets carried out of the throne room. Or is he coming back after the time skip?
He'll be back as the final boss
Are you new to Toku or something?
Well, what do you think anon?
Genuinely curious, are there multiple Racles anons or has it been you this whole time?
I wonder if there was a specific reason that Jeramie wanted Rita to see the Bugnarok country, and why she tried to get out of it?
He wanted the impartial judge to see things firsthand, and to me it seemed like it was just a silly gag that she was afraid of going into the caves like a big baby.
It's this, I don't know how this is even a question.
She's part Bugnarak.
I thought she was just blind in that eye
It's just heterochromia you weirdos.
The fact that she hides that eye constantly seems to imply she's ashamed of it
Jeramie's mother apparently lived in the Northern caves near Gokkan
Making sure she's the one there to see the Bugnarak country, she's the one who actually declares that it's accepted by the other 5 Kingdoms
There could be something there with her being part Bugnarak
You guys are overthinking it. It could be as simple as Jeremy wanting to show a fellow Gokkanian how the Bugnarak live and Rita not wanting to go the extra mile cause her Moffun plushes need her back home.
Rita is the judge and Jeramie was going to fight Dethnarok for the Bugnarok throne. She's there for the same reason she was for Gira vs Racles, to officialize it and make it more than a mere assassination.
So is this the best sentai series for anyone else in a long, long, looong time? Good music, fun characters, proper character arcs, villains with motives that arent just "muahaha, i want to rule the world!", season long serialized plot. Its good stuff. I havent enjoyed one this much in a while and really look forward to each new episode to see what happens next.
My only complaints are the CGI backgrounds look really goofy sometimes, but I understand it saves money and lets them have all sorts of crazy places they couldnt afford to do for real, and I kinda hate that they still have to fight a monster every week. Kinda wish they would introduce less enemies, and have them hang around longer before having to fight and die.
I get that for the really crazy places like shugoddom bridge, but most of the locations (Himeno's room, Kaguragi's room, snow landscape, fricking country road) could have and should have been made, either on studio, or barely modifying some location.
How would you realize the Flopital Castle throne room in studio? It's the largest virtual space created in the whole show outside of the various Shugoddom locations.
Do you mean Ishabana's? Just create the props. Obviously, it can't be nearly as ambitious, but it would look cooler.
This is a practical effects geek talking, but I would even do, if possible, the aerial shots of the castles with a real model.
The whole point was to create an outlandish fantasy world that couldnt be realized with traditional sets. You could hypothetically make anything work with good enough location scouting/set designers, but that goes against the ethos for this series. It simply wouldn't have been made if they weren't going to use the LED Studio. Omori said that's why they decided to do a fantasy series in the first place.
That's the thing: it could be realized with traditional sets. At least most of them. Kaguragi's room would look way better if it was actually build.
They could also combine the LED studio with more practical effects.
As I said, I'm only judging the result, don't know their resources so I can't judge their decisions or their work.
Not to the scale they want it can't. They're not going to shell out for a multi-level open air throne room or a consistently frozen castle exterior. Normally I would be very anti-LED. A lot of shows use it unecessarily, and arguably the one regular location it's unecessary for is the Toufu throne room. I'm assuming it's to keep it of a piece with the rest of the world and maintain the sense of immersion (the more you see regular locations, the more it draws attention to the LED locations). It's not perfect at all and does take me out of the show once in a while, but I really appreciate their vision and uncompromosing ambition in this case.
I think the decision to do the Toufu throne the same way is not an aesthetic consistency one (we had a major battle in a real set) but a pragmatic one.
In the first Toufu episode we even had a green screen for a field. A damn field. It seems the couldn't, either for budget or time restrictions, get to a damn field (and I am not being ironic here).
For the sets you say, they could build miniatures for the external shots, and then build the interior, combined with LED, to achieve a better result.
But I am actually on the same page as you, I like their ambition and I am enjoying this season, it's just that sensation when you see a scene that could have "easily" been done better with a more traditional mindset.
They don't have the budget if it wasn't obvious enough especially right given the state of their revenue streams. That's why Omori's team took the job to gain experience with the LED Greenscreen. But it's pretty clear this is a budget show that's making due with greenscreen and cheap Chinese contractors.
Oh yeah, I'm not denying the logistic of their decisions, just the results. They are probably doing what they can with what they have.
Anon the last time we had even full MotW suits was four seasons ago. If they don't have enough budget for that then they definitely don't have enough budget to make way more sets than a standard season would have gotten, let alone ones meant for royalty.
F
wasn't expecting to ever feel anything for the guy when the show started but I'm glad to be proven wrong
I love Gerojim so much I hate all these death flags
You know, I don't think explaining this was the smart idea if you wanted them to still stay at war considering now they know it wasn't just Jeramie's fault but now it's primarily Kamejim's. You basically just proved to Bugnarok's citizens that their hatred belongs against you, not humanity, and guarantee they'll team up against you. Plausible deniability that the humans did it would be the smarter idea.
>tells husband nothing and makes him afk in jail in convoluted plot till rita manages to find obscure evidence
Look man, Humans and bugs arent the smartest fricks in that universe.
One of the Kings (probably the parents of Gira/Racles) was probably responsible for the Rage of the Gods. That's probably the explaination for not telling Rita until they thought she was ready.
Ok this is bugging me, is Morphine's Rita's sister? If so, then why are they so secretive about it even when they're alone.
Maybe to protect them from something or maybe it's to keep from showing potential bias due to Rita's position
That makes sense, it's just weird that even in private they make it ambiguous, but then again Rita is autistic as hell so it can be sometimes too much for Morphine at times.
Look. When you've got a 2000+ year prank going on and the idiots involved are ruining it by being such baby pissants for something as stupid as not wanting to perpetuate cycles of retaliation BEFORE your target audience gets to see it you'd be seething so hard that stuff like that doesn't even matter anymore now that it's all gone up in smokes just because that stupid little black shit lost his rageboner at the end.
What did Evolt do now?
For a guy who spent 2000+ years on this plan you'd think he'd just figure a way to pin the nuke on the humans considering he's just that patient.
At that point I think he just does not care about keeping the farce up since the alien invasion is imminent. Besides, he had to pin down Dethnarok so the nuke hit, so he'd need to reveal himself anyway.