why does it look like anime instead of developing their own unique aesthetic?
I think it basically copying ghibli is a good thing for a first feature film. It will allow the studio behind it to gain an understanding of what it takes to create one. I'm more excited for their second or third film, if this one is successful enough.
Style is a bit too ghiblilike for my taste but it looks better than the American movie shit I see.
Good point. Yeah that's probably it. Important to attract the the people with stuff they know they like first and gain experience to develop their own style later. Still think it could be interesting thanks to the war theme and the lack of an overabundance of fantasy and cartoony metaphors, which is one of the things I hate about ghibli.
It's a worst version of India that blames India for all of Pakistan's political problems and somehow for all the political oppression and military coups that happened in Pakistan and refuses to acknowledges that having a fundamentalist Muslim State was probably a terrible idea in hindsight. They lost half the country when they tried to genocide their own people. And now half of the remaining part was underwater due to floods. It's not far from being a failed state.
do amerimutt Cinemaphilemrades actually think like this? >it's a shame that countries like pakistan try to make anime-like shit instead of developing their own style >it's okay when america does it because anime was influenced by disney like 70 years ago. actually it's ''ours''
that's pretty depressing and embarrassing at the same time
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I think it basically copying ghibli is a good thing for a first feature film. It will allow the studio behind it to gain an understanding of what it takes to create one. I'm more excited for their second or third film, if this one is successful enough.
This. I'm willing to be generous since this is like a first project from fricking PAKISTAN of all places.
It honestly doesn't look bad, I like the style(as people have said it's just Ghibli), but my main worry would be the voice acting honestly. Gonna be hard to get any english va with decent talent on this.
>Gonna be hard to get any english va with decent talent on this.
depends on who picks it up for distribution
normally this kind of thing would get scooped up by gkids in a heartbeat, but i dont know if theyd risk their ghibli contract by picking up a ghibli ripoff
Ik u are clowning but most women in Pakistan don't wear a Burka. Its like turkey in that regard. The cities at least are very westernized and modern in most place.
Copied off the YouTube description: >‘The Glassworker’ is a hand-drawn animated feature film directed by Usman Riaz and created by Mano Animation Studios. >It is the first hand-drawn animated feature from Pakistan and will release in 2023. >‘The Glassworker’ is an original story about young Vincent and his father Tomas, who run the finest glass workshop in the country and find their lives upended by an impending war in which they want no part. The arrival in their town of an army colonel and his young, talented violinist daughter, Alliz, shakes their reality and tests the relationship between father and son. >Based in Karachi, Pakistan, Mano employs a select group of talented artists. The team has built a collaboration network that extends to Malaysia, the Philippines, Japan, Peru, Argentina, the United States, and the United Kingdom.
It's weird how many people with red hair and green eyes there are in central Asia. A former classmate of mine was stationed in northern Afghanistan about a dozen years ago and one of the villages his unit frequently traveled through had a population of 1/4-1/3 redheads. He went to Ireland with his wife years later and said he saw less redheads in any one given place than he did there.
>It's weird how many people with red hair and green eyes there are in central Asia
Oh, really?
I'm excited for it! It looks good, so I hope the story is good as well! I want it to succeed, because then we will get more animations from around the world!
It's weird how many people with red hair and green eyes there are in central Asia. A former classmate of mine was stationed in northern Afghanistan about a dozen years ago and one of the villages his unit frequently traveled through had a population of 1/4-1/3 redheads. He went to Ireland with his wife years later and said he saw less redheads in any one given place than he did there.
The red hair gene actually comes from in complete fricking seriousness the same Egyptian dynasty that produced Tutankhamun. Some Celtic mercenary or tin tader made off with an Egyptian princess or noble woman during the whole "Atem" clusterfrick as far as anyone can tell and introduced it back into the Irish population that already had some weird connections to Egypt from before the Iberian migration and then it made its way through Europe. The two tone gene, or red beard gene, comes from the same place. I imagine the Pakistanis getting it from the same place.
My grandma is from a neighboring country and was very, very dark skin but with pale blue eyes and, when she was young, blonde hair. She looked otherworldly as a young woman, mostly because she had "Asian eyes" as well. That entire area has extremely varied looks.
My mother is Italian Swiss and my dad is half chinkoid, half American. My mother was wavy whatever you call dark red hair and my dad has wavy brown hair. My brother is slightly lighter red than my mother with blue-green eyes. My sister and I have jet black, ridiculously straight hair on our heads. No curve or waviness to it at all. Anyway, while that hair is black and my beard has a white patch in it and always has (leucism), my body, chest, pit, pube, arm and leg hairs are red. Why the frick do my sister and I have straight, black hair when no one else in the family does? My brother just looks like a white boy and my sister looks straight up Asian but I look Persian or Arab. None of us look like we're related, either.
Why?
The two-tone gene refers explicitly to the "redbeard" phenomena, as that's the most common expression of it, where a man will have a naturally orange or red beard despite having naturally dark brown/black or light blond hair. It *some fricking how* made its way to Ireland and then Scotland from Egypt, and from there spread into the Nordic countries and through them went all over Europe/Eurasia. Whatever the frick is going on with you is probably something else and is probably a case of different recessive genes or mutation.
>The two-tone gene refers explicitly to the "redbeard" phenomena, as that's the most common expression of it, where a man will have a naturally orange or red beard despite having naturally dark brown/black or light blond hair
Like the guy from Dexter?
some people say genghis khan was a ginger and i think they're right. central asia gives me the creeps, it's like the physical remnant of a lost era of history. if someone dropped me off in khazakistan i'd have a nervous breakdown and run all the way to the netherlands on foot.
guys in afghanistan traditionally often dye their beard and hair orange, arabs do too, he could have been a ginger technically but it seems more likely maybe he just dyed it and whoever saw it wasnt familiar with the practice
Now is this an actual movie or one of those things where we pretend a 15 minute short is somehow better than a whole ass story because of coping statements like “quality over quantity”?
How long until western 2D animation makes a comeback? I assume we'll see something soon with AI art being trained on 20th century Disney films and the like, but what else does the future hold?
HBO is planning some more animated series, some GoT spinoffs, but we don't know if they'll be 2D or CGI yet
What do you mean comeback? There are entire film festivals loaded with hundreds of 2D movies made in America. Every year. >https://filmfreeway.com/festivals?utf8=%E2%9C%93&config%5B%5D=entry_fees&config%5B%5D=years_running&config%5B%5D=runtime&config%5B%5D=region&config%5B%5D=submit&has_query=1&ga_search_category=Festival&q=animation&call_for_entries=0&ft_gold=0&ft_ff=0&ft_sc=0&ft_audio=0&ft_photo=0&ft_oe=0&fees=0%3B100&years=1%3B20&runtime=Any&inside_or_outside_country=0&countries=north_america&entry_deadline_when=0&entry_deadline=&event_date_when=0&event_date=&sort=relevance
My grandma is from a neighboring country and was very, very dark skin but with pale blue eyes and, when she was young, blonde hair. She looked otherworldly as a young woman, mostly because she had "Asian eyes" as well. That entire area has extremely varied looks.
Cinemaphile is a bunch of contrarians who hate everything
Red heads are woke now, needs brown people.
What are any of you talking about? Who's upset? It's the exact opposite, seeing a redhead in this setting seems "weird" unless you know enough about Central Asian ethnic groups to know that it's actually underrepresented if anything.
It looks really cool, if obviously very Ghibli. I didn't know this was going on here. I guess once India and Russia complete their re-realignment towards each other Pakistan's back to being reciprocated as a very pro-Western nation.
I'm intrigued by what they said about taking inspiration from Indo-Gothic architecture. This East meets West style is a good fit for a Ghibli-esque movie.
Phuul sapport saar. (I hate Hindus)
Okay, samegay. No one cares
could they be any more derivative?(they themselves are derivative I suppose...)
I think it basically copying ghibli is a good thing for a first feature film. It will allow the studio behind it to gain an understanding of what it takes to create one. I'm more excited for their second or third film, if this one is successful enough.
Style is a bit too ghiblilike for my taste but it looks better than the American movie shit I see.
Good point. Yeah that's probably it. Important to attract the the people with stuff they know they like first and gain experience to develop their own style later. Still think it could be interesting thanks to the war theme and the lack of an overabundance of fantasy and cartoony metaphors, which is one of the things I hate about ghibli.
Better have a cool bollywood soundtrack
The guy with the cap is from cats of Istambul.
Piss off with your AI slop.
Took me about two seconds to realize it's AIshit.
Try to make your computer to be consistent next time you try to lie with AI shit, idiot
why does it look like anime instead of developing their own unique aesthetic?
Pakistan is discount India with more incest and gay bestiality. It's impossible for them to be original.
>discount india
It's a worst version of India that blames India for all of Pakistan's political problems and somehow for all the political oppression and military coups that happened in Pakistan and refuses to acknowledges that having a fundamentalist Muslim State was probably a terrible idea in hindsight. They lost half the country when they tried to genocide their own people. And now half of the remaining part was underwater due to floods. It's not far from being a failed state.
everyone is copying anime at this point, it's a real frickin sad state of affairs
it's a shame. everything is just bobbleheads with ayy lmao eyes now.
>why does it look like anime instead of developing their own unique aesthetic?
yeah i wonder why
You do know Disney invented anime artstyle, right?
how can you unironically think that cope actually works?
do amerimutt Cinemaphilemrades actually think like this?
>it's a shame that countries like pakistan try to make anime-like shit instead of developing their own style
>it's okay when america does it because anime was influenced by disney like 70 years ago. actually it's ''ours''
that's pretty depressing and embarrassing at the same time
Nothing wrong with that anon. Anime started out by copying Disney and gradually evolving into it's own thing
You either copy anime, or copy Family Guy / Rick & Morty. There’s no in between.
>anime
Looks like low budget Ghibli
This. I'm willing to be generous since this is like a first project from fricking PAKISTAN of all places.
It honestly doesn't look bad, I like the style(as people have said it's just Ghibli), but my main worry would be the voice acting honestly. Gonna be hard to get any english va with decent talent on this.
>Gonna be hard to get any english va with decent talent on this.
depends on who picks it up for distribution
normally this kind of thing would get scooped up by gkids in a heartbeat, but i dont know if theyd risk their ghibli contract by picking up a ghibli ripoff
*lower budget
Still looks pretty expensive and well done
Why is her head not covered?
Ik u are clowning but most women in Pakistan don't wear a Burka. Its like turkey in that regard. The cities at least are very westernized and modern in most place.
I'd rather see this than Disney. This is excellent macro politics. I couldn't even find Pakistan on the map and already I'm sympathetic to them.
PAKISTAN IS IN THE BAG!!!
>Movie is about them fighting over the prime shitting river
I hate how fricking overrated Ghibli movies are
>t.disney homie
Not enough stupid songs?
I remember hearing about this I think at least six years ago.
Neat!
Alright. So what is the plot about? "It is a discount Ghibli" film doesn't explain much
about a glass worker and some planes i guess
why does he look like hide the pain harold
About a boy learning to be a glassworker and having some gay romance story while there's a war against le evil pajeets, I suppose.
Copied off the YouTube description:
>‘The Glassworker’ is a hand-drawn animated feature film directed by Usman Riaz and created by Mano Animation Studios.
>It is the first hand-drawn animated feature from Pakistan and will release in 2023.
>‘The Glassworker’ is an original story about young Vincent and his father Tomas, who run the finest glass workshop in the country and find their lives upended by an impending war in which they want no part. The arrival in their town of an army colonel and his young, talented violinist daughter, Alliz, shakes their reality and tests the relationship between father and son.
>Based in Karachi, Pakistan, Mano employs a select group of talented artists. The team has built a collaboration network that extends to Malaysia, the Philippines, Japan, Peru, Argentina, the United States, and the United Kingdom.
>It's weird how many people with red hair and green eyes there are in central Asia
Oh, really?
So it's not set in Pakistan?
Why are they making a movie about white coded people
is this the power of the monoculture
>pakistan
>monoculture
Is this the power of idiocy?
Alot of shots look really bad. It's mostly the human characters. Their movements are also pretty bad. Like I've seen better moments in YouTube videos.
I'm excited for it! It looks good, so I hope the story is good as well! I want it to succeed, because then we will get more animations from around the world!
It's weird how many people with red hair and green eyes there are in central Asia. A former classmate of mine was stationed in northern Afghanistan about a dozen years ago and one of the villages his unit frequently traveled through had a population of 1/4-1/3 redheads. He went to Ireland with his wife years later and said he saw less redheads in any one given place than he did there.
The red hair gene actually comes from in complete fricking seriousness the same Egyptian dynasty that produced Tutankhamun. Some Celtic mercenary or tin tader made off with an Egyptian princess or noble woman during the whole "Atem" clusterfrick as far as anyone can tell and introduced it back into the Irish population that already had some weird connections to Egypt from before the Iberian migration and then it made its way through Europe. The two tone gene, or red beard gene, comes from the same place. I imagine the Pakistanis getting it from the same place.
>Irish can unironically say THEY wuz Kangs
>Blacks stole that from them.
Every fricking time.
>two tone gene
Wait... I'm
My mother is Italian Swiss and my dad is half chinkoid, half American. My mother was wavy whatever you call dark red hair and my dad has wavy brown hair. My brother is slightly lighter red than my mother with blue-green eyes. My sister and I have jet black, ridiculously straight hair on our heads. No curve or waviness to it at all. Anyway, while that hair is black and my beard has a white patch in it and always has (leucism), my body, chest, pit, pube, arm and leg hairs are red. Why the frick do my sister and I have straight, black hair when no one else in the family does? My brother just looks like a white boy and my sister looks straight up Asian but I look Persian or Arab. None of us look like we're related, either.
Why?
The two-tone gene refers explicitly to the "redbeard" phenomena, as that's the most common expression of it, where a man will have a naturally orange or red beard despite having naturally dark brown/black or light blond hair. It *some fricking how* made its way to Ireland and then Scotland from Egypt, and from there spread into the Nordic countries and through them went all over Europe/Eurasia. Whatever the frick is going on with you is probably something else and is probably a case of different recessive genes or mutation.
Or your dad got cucked.
>The two-tone gene refers explicitly to the "redbeard" phenomena, as that's the most common expression of it, where a man will have a naturally orange or red beard despite having naturally dark brown/black or light blond hair
Like the guy from Dexter?
some people say genghis khan was a ginger and i think they're right. central asia gives me the creeps, it's like the physical remnant of a lost era of history. if someone dropped me off in khazakistan i'd have a nervous breakdown and run all the way to the netherlands on foot.
guys in afghanistan traditionally often dye their beard and hair orange, arabs do too, he could have been a ginger technically but it seems more likely maybe he just dyed it and whoever saw it wasnt familiar with the practice
The Irish are a swarthy Levantine people
Now is this an actual movie or one of those things where we pretend a 15 minute short is somehow better than a whole ass story because of coping statements like “quality over quantity”?
Poo in the loo
am too lazy to check but i doubt that's their first one
>whire ginger b***h
is this made by diasporas in the west?
How long until western 2D animation makes a comeback? I assume we'll see something soon with AI art being trained on 20th century Disney films and the like, but what else does the future hold?
HBO is planning some more animated series, some GoT spinoffs, but we don't know if they'll be 2D or CGI yet
What do you mean comeback? There are entire film festivals loaded with hundreds of 2D movies made in America. Every year.
>https://filmfreeway.com/festivals?utf8=%E2%9C%93&config%5B%5D=entry_fees&config%5B%5D=years_running&config%5B%5D=runtime&config%5B%5D=region&config%5B%5D=submit&has_query=1&ga_search_category=Festival&q=animation&call_for_entries=0&ft_gold=0&ft_ff=0&ft_sc=0&ft_audio=0&ft_photo=0&ft_oe=0&fees=0%3B100&years=1%3B20&runtime=Any&inside_or_outside_country=0&countries=north_america&entry_deadline_when=0&entry_deadline=&event_date_when=0&event_date=&sort=relevance
I'd rather see brown people in a movie made and about brown people. the anime look is shit, too.
>I'd rather see brown people in a movie made and about brown people
Weird that you posted a movie about brown people made by white people.
it still doesn't feature any fricking gingers in afghanistan
My grandma is from a neighboring country and was very, very dark skin but with pale blue eyes and, when she was young, blonde hair. She looked otherworldly as a young woman, mostly because she had "Asian eyes" as well. That entire area has extremely varied looks.
>Pakistan
a movie theater is a convenient way to explode many people at once. that's the only reason I can imagine this was made
Wait wait wait wait wait
Now Cinemaphile is mad about redheads being put INTO movies?
Cinemaphile is a bunch of contrarians who hate everything
Red heads are woke now, needs brown people.
What are any of you talking about? Who's upset? It's the exact opposite, seeing a redhead in this setting seems "weird" unless you know enough about Central Asian ethnic groups to know that it's actually underrepresented if anything.
Wasn't the Donkey King or whatever that shit was made by Pakis?
So is this project still alive? It was supposed to be released in 2023.
I hope it's just the usual issue with the deadline and not cancellation.
I remember seeing a trailer years ago and wondering every once in a blue moon if it would ever be finished. Good to see it's on track.
Oh, okay, that was the trailer from years ago. Great.
Why do the characters look east asian?
It looks really cool, if obviously very Ghibli. I didn't know this was going on here. I guess once India and Russia complete their re-realignment towards each other Pakistan's back to being reciprocated as a very pro-Western nation.
I'm intrigued by what they said about taking inspiration from Indo-Gothic architecture. This East meets West style is a good fit for a Ghibli-esque movie.