Pale Blue Eye was quite good but i didn't get the Poe references
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Pale Blue Eye was quite good but i didn't get the Poe references
Pale Blue Eye was quite good but i didn't get the Poe references
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I felt the same way. It's such a strange idea to have edgar allen poe as a character in your murder mystery. I enjoyed the movie so I wouldn't say Poe ruined it, but I still don't get what the writer was going for.
They did a similar thing in that movie where John Cusack plays Poe.
>but i didn't get the Poe references
There weren't any. At least nothing explicit that could be called a reference.
The brother and sister duo are similar to the brother and sister from The Fall of the House of Usher. The movie is a bit like 'the fall of the house of Marquis' in that sense. There's also the concept of being haunted by the dead (Poe by his mother, Landor by his daughter, Lea by her ancestor) as is a recurring theme in several of Poe's works like Annabel Lee, The Black Cat, The Tell-tale Heart, etc. But the idea of ancestral possession is more of Lovecraft's arena.
Poe as a character in novels is very common. People fictionalize Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's life too.
why? It seems like a lazy attempt to inject some sort of intellectualism or poetic reference into a work where it has no place. Writing Shakespeare into your murder mystery doesn't make your writing any close in quality to his.
I mean the reason is because they're well-known yet mysterious figures which spurs the imagination. I have no problem with people including Poe, Doyle, Shakespeare or Jack the Ripper in their works, and if you knew just how much it was done in art it ceases to feel out of place. There are tons of top notch stories that dramatize real people, it only feel cheap if the quality of the story is cheap, which I don't think applies here.
Nah, it felt pretty moronic here. The writing is simply bad. Just like Hostiles. Scott Cooper is just a shitty writer
I just finished it, total schlock. It felt like a shitty episode of Del Taco's Cabinet of Curiosities.
There are specks of interesting things in it, and the winter setting is comfy, but it's a thoroughly uninspired, lazy and not thought-through film.
I was always the one to argue when people say that Netflix produces only schlock but this movie has given enormous credence to that claim. It feels like the death of cinema.
It's name recognition. Advertising.
You can imagine how shit the book it is based on is if it has to resort to that kind of tactic.
You don't know shit about good writing.
Thank you for the (You). If you enjoyed it, good on you. I didn't, for the reasons I explained.
not that anon but this post reminded me i ought to read more zelany
>But the idea of ancestral possession is more of Lovecraft's arena.
I don't think Lovecraft did that in any of his works. He wrote about a man impersonating his descendant but not possessing him.
The Thing on the Doorstep.
Old wizard in a young woman's body.
Fair enough, I'll check it out
If you ever Poe's works you'd probably find it more entertaining. Plenty of fan service in there.
He was distractingly bad as a character as was the actor playing him
Knowing Poe's work makes it even worse
I know most of Poe's work and I really enjoyed this movie, which aside from having Poe as a character had nothing to do with Poe, aside from the detective fiction angle.
>but I still don't get what the writer was going for.
He probably realized how dull the script was and just dropped a historical character in for some gimmicky novelty. Without Poe this movie is even more generic and forgettable
It's based on a book
You deserve each other
Netflix and globohomosexual are really pushing Edgar Allen Poe now for some reason. The school in Wednesday is named after a line in his poem.
>the scene when his pet raven helps him solve the murder
kino
Read some of his short stories, and it will probably make more sense.
Why would the detective pick the smartest student to help him out?
he was drawn to him
they both had disdain for the academy
both drinkers and obsessed with morose and macabre
More like Edgar Allen Boring
Poe didn't just write horror, he also wrote some detective stories.
FAS kid overacted hard and his Poe character felt out of place. Bale phoned it in. Climax felt absurd in what was otherwise a grounded detective film.
Hostiles was much better.
Over a 5/10 that becomes a 7/10 for having zero darkies in it.
Haven't seen this one but pitting it against Hostiles is pretty much an uphill battle as is. That film is a straight 10.
This
Hostiles was just as shit
>my brain 5 seconds into movie: ayyyy what if bale is the murderer
What I didn't get was why cast Gillian Anderson if she isn't going to do full frontal nudity for 90% of the film
Bales wart gets more distracting over time, I couldnt finish it, JUST CUT THE DAMN THING OFF
I was actually pissed, like what the frick does Edgar Allen Poe have to do with any of this? Wikipediaed him, he did go to West Point. I guess the allusion is that the whole messed up scenario would be inspiration for one of his stories. On the surface, it sounds like "Abraham Lincoln, vampire Slayer" though.
You both sound like massive homosexuals and plebby af
he's the godfather of goth
Stopped watching as soon as Poe started sperging
BYRON
>"why, mr poe, this person was killed with such savagery the killer might as well have been an ourangutan!"
>"interesting...", poe says and looks at the camera
turned it off right there
No way that actually happens
Anon, you've been found out.
You gave me to understand you didn't watch anime.
I-It was my daughter's
>Daikiimura receipt slips out the pages and fall to the floor
This writing in this movie was absolute drivel
This movie is such utter trash. The actors are embarrassing, the writing is just a bunch of cringey cliches, it felt like your standard Netflix piece of shit aside from no black people
Watched this on Netflix with my GF and we both couldn't stop commenting on how fricking awful every single scene was. Terrible movie
>Daughter has three months to live
>She finds her ancestor's journal and gets into her head that using a human heart will help her get well
>Convinces her whole family but they all agree to not kill anyone, just wait until a corpse presents itself despite the extremely short window of time they have to work with (but maybe people died every couple week in military school back then idk)
>A corpse actually happens to be produced
>The father, despite being the main doctor and having the authority to do an autopsy, doesn't just sneakily steal the heart when the body is on his table, instead his kids just butcher the corpse up and bring all the attention on them
>They perform the ritual once and see that the daughter's health is improving (despite the fact she can't go on a leisure walk without having a seizure)
>Like a week after their first heart heist the kids and the mother all agree the next step is to kill an innocent man and steal his heart right there, conveniently losing all their morality in about five days
>The father, despite being the main doctor and having the authority to do an autopsy, doesn't just sneakily steal the heart when the body is on his table, instead his kids just butcher the corpse up and bring all the attention on them
This isn't a thing. Coroners are only allowed to do autopsies if there's a reason to do so.
It's the best movie so far this year. There are more than 3 movies released so far.
The whodunnit murder mystery with allusions to the supernatural and occult. Most of the best ones are TV movies, series or miniseries.
post your top 3 gay
>It's the best movie so far this year. There are more than 3 movies released so far.
Name 3 movies that this movie is better than, that were released at any point in time.
The Menu, Glass Onion, Top Gun Maverick
I don't have a top 3. I don't have a favourite, they're all good. I have a list of good ones but you'll have to ask nicely instead of trying to extort them from me.
>The Menu, Glass Onion, Top Gun Maverick
Are any of those really murder mysteries? I haven't seen any of them (I turned off Glass Onion 2 minutes in) but I'm pretty sure Top Gun isn't a murder mystery, and the menu should be a slasher or some shit.
That guy asked for three movies this movie was better than. It was the other guy asking for supernatural whodunnits.
You've solved jack. I've already posted some of my favourite whodunnits of this genre literally in three other Pale Blue Eye threads this week. Go dig for them on 4plebs.
>That guy asked for three movies this movie was better than
Yes, in the context of "countless movies of this genre", as seen in the linked post.
I'm dipping out of this thread though, this isn't even funny.
>This isn't a thing. Coroners are only allowed to do autopsies if there's a reason to do so.
The dude was found hanged in the woods, that's a decent enough reason.
It's actually not. Specifically for cases of suicide, there's no reason to do an autopsy. Autopsies are done where foul play is suspected but you see now how it was a catch-22 for the doctor?
Say it was suicide, hope the heart gets played off as a prank and swept under the rug, or say it was murder and definitely invite unwanted investigation.
A brainlet wrote the movie, thats the problem. Its genuinely stupid.
it's not a good movie. there is a good story potential somewhere is this maybe, but for a more talented director
It's a great movie. I have seen countless movies of this genre as it's one of my favourite genres and it doesn't get much better than The Pale Blue Eye.
Name 3 movies this movie is better than.
what genre is that? Murder mystery. Name your top 3 immediately.
The visuals were the only redeeming quality of this turd
>Pale Blue Eye was quite good
No it wasn't, good movies aren't produced anymore.
>Netflix
Even without Black folk Netflix is only capable of making shit it's actually pretty remarkable
I already solved the mystery of anon's top 3 favorite murder mystery movies.
I wouldn't really call it "good". Also them dragging Robert Duvall out of retirement to film him for 30 seconds of material was dumb.
Lovecraft as a side character in a lovecraftian horror mystery whwn?
Already been done
Shit movie that Cinemaphile with pretend was kino because its an all white period piece starring Bale.