>David Ellison's Skydance Media is "kicking the tires" on Paramount's assets, Puck News' Matthew Belloni reports, and it's a real possibility since Skydance is well funded and is less likely to run into regulatory issues than rival media companies like Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) or NBCUniversal (CMCSA).
>Paramount last month also implemented a new pay plan for executives covering a change in control of the company.
https://puck.news/shari-inches-toward-parting-with-paramount/
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>make one of the most profitable movies of all time in Top Gun just last year.
>squander all the money
Some execs are so dumb they just deserve to fail and take way too long to do it.
They’re making seven Star Trek shows at once. And no one wants to watch even a single one of them.
They are making 2. The other ones are cancelled or at another streaming.
which two? not trying to play "gotcha" here
I know the animated janeway one got cancelled. picard is over. std is still going? snw still going? did they strangle in the crib section 31? didn't kurtzman talk about a star fleet academy show?
Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds are the only runs actually running. And even LD had a season ender that could work as a quasi-finale. SNW ended on a cliffhanger. The Academy and S31 shows seem unlikely to move past scripting, given the financial problems facing Paramount.
>only runs
goddamn it. only "ones"
>Star Trek Discovery on Netflix/Paramount+
>gets bad ratings and is hated by fans but extremely well liked by liberal gay Californians
>quietly cancel the show, but let them film a wrap-up "ending" so the CHUDs don't win and the studio doesn't look like it's cancelling a diverse and inclusive show
>Sense8 on Netflix
>gets bad ratings and is hated by sci-fi fans but extremely well liked by liberal gay Californians
>quietly cancel the show, but let them film a wrap-up "ending" so the CHUDs don't win and the studio doesn't look like it's cancelling a diverse and inclusive show
ok so studios ARE capable of letting shows wrap things up instead of canceling abruptly, but they only do it when the show has gays in it?
I liked how Picard was so hated they finally decided for the last season to actually turn it into something the fans would want to watch.
They just distributed, Skydance actually made it along with a couple of other production studios. Same with the MI movies.
I would legit laugh my ass off if Skydance goes from being a low-level producing partner for Paramount to literally owning them in less than 15 years
>Paramount is dying
>Disney is dying
>Warners are in trouble
>Fox is gone
>MGM is sold to Amazon
How's Universal still hanging?
Jurassic Slop, Fast and Furious and Illumination's animated movies.
Ah. I forgot F&F was theirs, thought it was Sony/Columbia Pictures who are also still standing on their own.
funny how less than a decade ago everyone thought Sony/Columbia was circling the drain and should be bought by Disney, and today they're the ones in the best shape since they don't have an unprofitable streaming albatross around their necks
Sony is basically propped up solely by the Playstation at this point.
More then half of all of Sony's revinue is from the PS now. They're unironicly a videogame company more then anything.
Pretty sure most of Sony's revenue comes from selling insurance in Japan.
I was wrong, guess its not half, thought I had read that.
But it's still a bit more then 1/3 and is more then any other segmant.
>But it's still a bit more then 1/3 and is more then any other segmant.
31.58% is less than 1/3 but still far more than I thought. I thought it was like 20% games and insurance with over 30%. I'm honestly shocked the PS5 is successful. I've had no desire to buy one and probably won't until the next GTA. Worse gen in memory for me.
You don't understand why the best selling hardware in a 250 billion worldwide market is successful? KWAB.
I don't understand why it's selling at all. It has barely any fricking games you can't play on a PC or even a PS4.
>propped up by gaming subsidiary that has no games
It has Comcast backing it, and they've got deep pockets
By being smart enough to be content with the free money that licensing your properties across the streaming services gets you. Literally no one wants to go back to cable package cringe and people will gladly pay $30 for a movie or single on prime to have all the things they want to watch in one place.
>By being smart enough to be content with the free money that licensing your properties across the streaming services gets you.
They have Peawiener which is the most irrelevant streaming service of all.
Dark Universe horseshit
>How's Universal still hanging?
They’re owned by Comcast
Has Paramount produced anything of note in the last 10 - 15 years outside Top Gun: Maverick?
Some of the Mission: Impossible movies were good.
Which is Skydance too. Seems like they need Skydance more than the other way around tbh.
Watchmen
Up in the Air
Shutter Island
How to Train Your Dragon
True Grit
Rango
Hugo
Young Adult
Jack Reacher
Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters
The Wolf of Wall Street
Interstellar
10 Cloverfield Lane
Star Trek Beyond
Arrival
Mother!
Annihilation
Bumblebee
Crawl
Mission: Impossible sequels
Babylon
Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves
The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial
Killers of the Flower Moon
They also distributed MCU till Disney bought Marvel. So 2008-2012.
>leak M&A story to manipulate stock value above open call option price which conveniently expire today
go to SEC jail
do you keep that list in your pocket or something?
No I just quickly went through their wiki filmography. Took the ones I liked.
>Watchmen
>Interstellar
co-distributed through Warner
>Up in the Air
>How to Train Your Dragon
Dreamworks productions, now owned by Universal
>Annihilation
Netflix film
>Killers of the Flower Moon
Apple film
>Shutter Island
>True Grit
>Rango
>Hugo
>Young Adult
>Jack Reacher
>Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters
>The Wolf of Wall Street
>10 Cloverfield Lane
>Star Trek Beyond
>Arrival
>Mother!
>Bumblebee
>Crawl
>Mission: Impossible sequels
>Babylon
>Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves
>The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial
Some decent titles among that but not much that's particularly noteworthy and not a great deal that were highly successful and some outright flops. Pretty lacklustre output for 15 years.
>Watchmen
Also co-produced it.
>Annihilation
>Netflix film
Produced by Skydance, DNA Films, Scott Rudin Productions and Huahua Media. Paramount distributed the movie in North America and China. International distro rights were sold to Netfix. Doesn't make it a "Netfilx film".
>Due to a poorly received test screening, David Ellison, a financier and producer at Skydance, became concerned that the film was "too intellectual" and "too complicated", and demanded changes to make it appeal to a wider audience, including making Portman's character more sympathetic, and changing the ending. Producer Scott Rudin sided with the director, who did not want to alter the film. Rudin, who had final cut privilege, defended the film and refused to take notes from Ellison.[4]
>On December 7, 2017, it was announced that, due to the clashes between Rudin and Ellison, and the shift in Paramount's leadership, a deal had been struck allowing Netflix to distribute the film internationally. According to this deal, Paramount would handle the American, Canadian, and Chinese release, while Netflix would begin streaming the film in other territories 17 days later
>they have Tom Cruise AND Scorcese
>they frick it up
how? HOW? both names are guaranteed money printers. you can be completely fricking asleep at the wheel and make money with these 2 signed to your studio. you could do NOTHING ELSE and be one of the biggest brands in entertainment.
It's not the movies, Paramount+ is a money drain. But they really had no choice because the future involves streaming. Only Netflix, Amazon and Disney really have the money to pour into the streaming money pit until it becomes profitable. The financials in Netflix are highly suspect, but they were the first adopter so have that advantage. There's going to be massive media consolidation in the next decade.
Every streamer is a money drain. They all bet on cheap money forever, but interest rates did go up, so they are up shit creek without a paddle.
Paramount Plus is a uniquely bad money drain. They have some good shows. But I think their misuse of Star Trek initially damaged them. They have since gotten better at Star Trek, but it’s probably too late
>But I think their misuse of Star Trek initially damaged them
they really dropped the ball on that one wtf were they even thinking with STD. they should of made a solid new show with likable characters set 20 years after nemesis. kurtzman is a fricking shit show runner never understood why they did not shit can him for fricking up over and over again.
Black person
Bane
Sneed
Chuck
Kevin
Nash
Apple should buy Paramount/ Showtime. This will give Apple TV a huge content library, and will be much more affordable and logical than buying the deeply controversial and failing Disney brand.
Let Disney collapse. The Rey Palpatine movie will be the biggest flop of all time. Let them collapse
>The Rey Palpatine movie will be the biggest flop of all time.
I legitimately don't think that will end up making it to production.
the news about Star Wars projects legit feels like that one dramatic friend we all have that announces plans or news on social media before anything is fully official, because they're so excited over it, and then they look stupid when the plans inevitably fall through because it wasn't official yet
I would bet my house that the news of a "Rey Palpatine" movie stemmed from a causal meeting with Rey's actress with nothing signed on paper or anything concrete, and some dramaprostitute terminally-online chick in the room leaked the news
>NEW REY MOVIE CONFIRMED, PRODUCTION STARTING SOON
It will (from a financial or logical point of view, it absolutely shouldn’t), but it will.
The entire point of the Sequel trilogy was to rewrite the Star Wars story to center Rey Palpatine and to diminish Anakin, Leia, Han and Luke. This has been Kennedy’s obsession since day one. She will force the Rey movie out even if it destroys her, Disney and everyone else. She’s a fanatic
Kennedy has proven to somehow be bulletproof over the last decade but 2023 has been disastrous for Disney and Iger is under serious heat. I think there will be pressure to make significant changes in the release slate of all of their studios, including Lucasfilm.
Kennedy has reeled off 9 or 10 straight flops and nothing has happened to her. It’s clear her job is not at all performance based, and her products could all be massive successes or massive flops and it doesn’t matter.
That’s very revelatory as to what’s going on
I've said it a hundred times already, but Kennedy must know where all the bodies are buried if you know what I mean. She's been around for a long time so she probably has dirt on everyone important and that makes her bulletproof.
Read "You'll Never Eat Lunch In This Town Again" by Julia Phillips. She was friends with Kennedy, Spielberg and all those people when she was a producer. Let's just say Kathleen Kennedy has more information on the Big players than Julia Phillips and her book caused a big scandal.
Frick /misc/. Why is disliking Disney Star Wars a /misc/ issue?? I don’t get it.
Because not liking Disney Star Wars is anti-semitic
How?? Kathleen Kennedy is Irish Catholic. Tony Gilroy is Irish. Favreau and Filoni are Italian. I don’t get it
>Favreau
Favreau is a israelite
I fricking hope so. From all the spin-off projects they announced officially and unofficially, it would be a fricking travesty if the Rey's Own Movie would be the one to make through to production.
Frick off moron. Apple is as bad as Disney, they're diversity over quality as well.
steve jobs former wife is the largest single disney shareholder because steve sold pixar to disney. if they were going to acquire disney they would have done it long ago. i dont think they have any interest
My dad wants to watch NCIS Sydney but refuses to get paramount+
>My dad wants to watch NCIS Sydney
Man, I hope this means the Frasier reboot will not get more seasons.
His Trump praising already cancelled S02 and his future in the X-Men.
Warner Brothers is probably next.
Wow look at that great programming!
help if the app actually worked.
Honestly it's the worst, most unreliable app I've ever used. And I will never pay $ for it.
Literally everything that image is advertising disgusts me.
That image of Patrick Stewart sure screams Star Trek!
Well, it screams the state of the franchise today.
old, cranky, and confused?
Why are there three Trevor Noahs?
I work for Paramount+. The app never works, especially for Roku and Firestick users.
Did they really decide to hop in the streaming game because of Yellowstone?
No, they were in it before, but with another name, CBS All Access, IIRC.
>regulatory issues
Kek as if anyone in the government gives a frick about companies merging anymore.
What's the deal with Peawiener, it there anything good on there
Phillip Jack Brooks and Vincent Kennedy McMahon
no
Good riddance.
holy shit its a total speculation non-story. the writer literally says so in the second paragraph why in the holy frick did you make this sorry thread jfc
Exaggerating for engagement
what does this mean for the voyager enterprise crossover movie trilogy?
>puck.news
This sounds like some pajeet clickbait farm.
All these huge media companies being destroyed because tried to take out Netflix. Netflix won. Now Disney and WB releasing content back to Netflix which they said they’d never do. What’s with Netflix and their ability to crumble much bigger corporations.
>Netflix won.
Netflix feels more irrelevant than ever tbqh. I barely even think about Netflix these days.
free ones like pluto have all the good stuff anyway
you do know nflx is like -14 bilion in the hole still right? lmao
Streaming isn’t profitable at all.
nflx is actually profitable rn but they have a deep hole to dig out of and as more licensing dries up for them and they have to resort to original content its going to get tougher
It isn’t profitable because the
budgets for their content is ridiculous. Disney spent like 60-70 million on awful Willow TV show. Most expensive network TV show is like a million an episode. And that’s a show that bringing in massive viewers and advertisement bucks. Think Friends, The Office, etc
the frick are you talking about. galecki and cuoco made like $24 million each for the final season of big bang theory and that bazinga guy too
That only final season. 11 fricking seasons. Show final season ranked as most expensive network show at 12 mill an episode. Now compare that to first season of Wandavision which cost 25 million an episode! BBT averaged 17 million views. Supposedly 6 million watched Wandavision. But I don’t trust self reported steaming ratings
eh, i never questioned the cost of streaming OC but your estimate of $1m per ep to produce a network tv show was absurdly wrong
It wasn’t that off
>i posted a screen grab without a source
>it must be true
it isnt profitable because they are trying to make billions of dollars off $20 subscriptions instead of just demand billions from ford tide and geico. people can not watch, but corporations need to advertise
People aren’t going to go back to advertising. Amazon doing it. Hulu does it with option pay more for no advertising. I know Netflix almost did it but people went psycho over the idea
nflx posted their most profitable quarter ever in q3 2023 due to adding ad tier subs
People just going to have to accept adds. No way around it
Ads for poor people and people that don't care about what they spend will get the elite subscription. Like sporting events, nosebleed seats for the poor and 50 yard line seats for the people that think it's worth it.
The problem for Netflix is that Apple and Amazon have money to burn and are a lot bigger than Netflix. All the failures that Apple and Amazon have produced are just a drop in the bucket. Tubi and Pluto are also a big threat to Netflix. Those services don't have debt and turn a profit because all their content is dirt cheap to acquire.
its hard to put amazon into the comparison argument when it comes to streaming. 99% of amazon prime streaming service only have it because they already pay for amzn prime for free shipping. if they werent tied together almost nobody would pay a standalone monthly sub for their streaming service
why not release the shows for free on their own free platform? like how they did before cable
You mean on networks, paid for by shitloads of advertising?
paramount actually owns PLUTO TV. they have much of their content available on pluto for "free" its 100% ad based like broadcast tv was
>*slowly raises paw*
I liked Lioness. It was comfortably cliche and the main dyke was cute.
total yellowstone death
eh, they would shut it down if it wasnt working. they use pluto as an ad itself to drive people to buy subs on paramount. they get you hooked with limited eps of series and or just bombard with ads for stuff only on their pay site