Did it exaggerate with all the violence? I remember my (overly religious) mom forcing me to watch it, despite me not wanting to.
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Passion of Christ (2004)
Did it exaggerate with all the violence? I remember my (overly religious) mom forcing me to watch it, despite me not wanting to.
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it wasn't even that violent
I have not heard one valid argument against Calvinism
Uhh.. your point?
Because there isn't one. I'm elect btw
>I'm elect
Wut.
Imagine reading hundreds of pages about a god who wants good for everyone he created and thinking you're one of a couple hundred thousand people out of billions he actually cares about and wants a the other billions to suffer for eternity. Calvinism ruined the message of Christianity
>who wants good for everyone he created
8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
9 He said, “Go and tell this people:
“‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’
10 Make the heart of this people calloused;
make their ears dull
and close their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed.”
11 Then I said, “For how long, Lord?”
And he answered:
“Until the cities lie ruined
and without inhabitant,
until the houses are left deserted
and the fields ruined and ravaged,
12 until the Lord has sent everyone far away
and the land is utterly forsaken.
13 And though a tenth remains in the land,
it will again be laid waste.
But as the terebinth and oak
leave stumps when they are cut down,
so the holy seed will be the stump in the land.”
>quoting Isaiah out of context
This is why I stopped going to church.
How much more context am I supposed to fit into a post? It's sufficient to prove the point that God wants to punish some people.
One verse about Pharoh translated from an accent language dozens of times and maybe one other verse in Psalm vs the 2000 year old Gospel of Christ that is easily understandable throughout all translations.
Here's one:
Dilate.
I'm not the Calvinist but there's none of that antagonistic bullshit low brow insult crap in Christianity. Get back to the Message.
Yeah the scourging and crowning of thrones never happened. And Jesus was only forced to walk 100 feet max.
No that's pretty much what happened
The horror scenes and jump scares in the Judas scenes got to me more than the violence honestly. The scene that hit me the most was Mary tripping and falling trying to get to her son. Jesus knew what he was in for.
Yeah, that whole movie made me uncomfortable AF.
People unironically think Passion is a shit movie because "lol God's not real" but cry when Han Solo or Tony Stark die.
That's because Han Solo and Tony Stark were lovable yet flawed characters, which is a lot more relatable than some super-perfect flawless demi-god who could do no wrong.
I'm sorry a guy who helped people find hope in life with everything he did is somehow less empathetic than literal murderers.
LOL. I'll bet you're the kind of person who considers compassion a weakness and rails against "godless lefty socialists" for wanting to help poor people. You so-called Christians are the worst hypocrites walking.
>socialists
>wanting to help poor people
LOL
fricking lmao
Lol actually
Lol!
Not at all, I sympathize with what leftists want to a degree but it's just not possible if we all hate each other and I'm not for that.
>good characters must be le relatable
have a nice day
>purposefully misinterpreting what he said
You sure got him dumb frick
>Actually arguing Tony Stark is better than Jesus
You already lost.
The word I used was "relatable", not "better". Maybe if your powers of logic and reading comprehension would improve if you read something other than an Iron Age book of fairy tales written by sheep herders.
>Tony Stark were lovable yet flawed characters,, which is a lot more relatable than some super-perfect flawless demi-god
This isn't you trying to argue Tony Stark is better than Jesus?
>B-but I said le relatable!!!
Don't care. If you have to narrow down your original point this much to avoid being proven wrong, you already lost.
>Maybe if you....
Not reading all that, lol.
Spoil the movie for me. Do they show the resurrection?
The last scene is Jesus stepping out of the tomb then it ends.
What about the post credit scene?
Yeah, that scene when he takes a selfie, winks at the audience, and the screen goes black? Powerful.
The one question you'll never get a straight answer from most Christians is: what exactly did Jesus DO? "HURR DURR HE DIED FOR YER SINS". So, like...what does that mean? How did that change things from before he came along?
It means Christ defeated death by resurrecting so that your soul wouldn't spend an eternity separated from God after death. It's that simple, idk who you're asking these questions to lmao.
Oh, so a good and virtuous person who lived and died in, say, 100BC went to Hell? Rude.
Yeah, but Christ descended into Hades for 3 days to preach to the dead so they could be saved.
You'll never get me to believe in a god who'd sent someone to eternal torment despite their being a good person. That's no god worth believing in.
Christians don't believe in that. The idea is that you torment yourself by being unwilling to let go of your earthly passions after death. The fire you think of when in Hell is symbolic of God's love, it can be cleansing to those that want it and torture for those who don't.
God is God whether you believe in him or not
Also all things are possible through Christ; good people who lived before His incarnation can be saved, and we can't -absolutely- rule out that good non-Christians won't be saved
but those who soundly reject God will suffer from their own free choice y that seperation, simple as
That's literally the theology yes, this anon
is a little off. "Death" was not "defeated", the curse of the Fall was undone and washed away in Jesus's blood, so that anons could go to heaven, whereas before everyone went direct the other way, regardless of anything. Jesus then descended to hell to rescue everyone that died before his sacrifice however, so they only suffered for thousands of years, as the case may be. But it was all part of the plan, as you can well imagine. God being omnipotent was intentionally foiled by Satan and then had to correct the situation by manifesting as His Son which is Himself and sacrificing Himself, as He always thought might be fun.
Imagine believing in all that nonsense. You'd be better off believing in Zeus.
Look at the world secularism and atheism has made and tell me it's good
Lol
>Look at the world secularism and atheism has made and tell me it's good
The absolute best and kindest person I know is an atheist, whereas some of the shittiest mean-spirited cretins I've had the displeasure of knowing were "devout Christians". I'd entrust my fate to a secular humanist long before I'd throw myself in with your hateful lot.
>anecdotal evidence
Genuine moron over here
Zeus never told anyone to be a good person
Zeus never had to. Either you're a good person or you're not. Lord knows Jesus saying "be a good person" hasn't resulted in Christians being good people, so your point is moot.
You don't even know what 'good' or 'bad' is.
Sure I do. "Good" is wanting to help people when they need a helping hand. Which is literally what Jeebus supposedly preached. Yet every policy that aims to do that very thing is blocked by self-righteous rightwingers at every turn. So kindly go frick yourself, hypocrite.
You're calling someone a hypocrite for believing in the original message and associating them with your caricature of what you think that group is. Generalization fricks up everything.
You're too politicised to be reasoned with. It's a shame Americans are too mentally ill to comprehend Christianity. The fact that you will find without fail atheists or muslims seething at Christ in these threads just goes to show this isn't only an intellectual issue, but a spiritual one as well. Otherwise, why the needless seethe?
Wow. That sounds unbelievably moronic. I can see why Islam is growing so fast.
They went to a "waiting room" called Abraham's busom. Which was basically just purgatory. Then Jesus went to them and told them about what he did and gave them the choice to go with God or apart
Most probably chose eternal life
Random and baseless fan fiction, say less
>i haven't read the Bible, so what you say isn't real lol
Lol
You will be completely unable to quote anything in the Bible that says anything resembling that, so at this point it's less about ignorance and more just active unintelligence. Feel free to prove me wrong and vindicate yourself.
I cant point to it
But the way you're posting makes me think you think unbaptised children go to hell if they die
Which, if you believe that, then I've basically been proven right on my point, since you would be wrong on yours, meaning you'd be wrong about everything since that question is about the nature of God Himself
I thought only some souls stayed at Abraham's bosum, like the prophets and whatnot. But that's a good clarification.
You'll also probably want to learn how to spell "bosom" which everyone else knows how to spell before you start samegayging, dimwit.
I'm walking my dog while educating angry people like you. Maybe go outside and experience the world God created for (you) instead of accusing other anons of samegayging.
Gotcha, I've had the same happen to me while walking dogs and anons tried to pounce on my typos to own me, so I recant! Hope your doggy is doing well.
Ah we misunderstand each other, I don't believe in God so I don't have any difficulty reconciling the barbarism and illogic of theology with a rose-tinted perception of him. I don't want to malign you for believing it either though, to each their own.
If anything it downplayed it.
The gospel is very simple, I don't know why it became this whole eternal heaven vs hell thing. If heaven or the non existence of God are all you care about then you're missing the point.
the absolute state of yeshua worshippers
>get's btfo'd so hard he's afraid to directly reply
Sad.
Real schizo hours
>Did it exaggerate with all the violence?
Opposite.
What?
average chinese cartoons for 10 year old kids are more violent than that
>Did it exaggerate with all the violence?
The source material is some medieval play which is based on the bible
The bible is violent and so were the middle ages. So the movie is true to source.