>dude rich people are bad lmao
>they can never understand real life like poor people
>they cant even understand the appeal of a heckin nostalgic cheeseburger
>and they deserve...to DIE!
>yeah so what if the director, writers, producers, and actors involved are all wealthy
>its a LE BASED critique of CRAPITALISM
no wonder reddit loved this shit
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Don't forget, she's also an escort and is so smart and reasonable and rational. Meanwhile real world prostitutes are all drug addicts with room temp IQ's, even the high class ones. The perfectly stable reasonable prostitute with no baggage is purely a Hollywood fantasy.
Just imagine her going deep on some old man's ass. That kind of ruins the character. prostitutes are prostitutes and they can't be respectable people. Everyone with a brain knows this. People who made the film know this, but they lie. Leftists do nothing but lie and engage in performative morality that they don't believe in.
We Heil.
This
Fake. No modern prostitute will let you hit it raw no matter how much you pay. You're basically risking your life.
And? If it gets late and she doesn't have the money for her fix yet she is willing to negotiate.
you can see pretty much all stds with your own eyes and someone with aids looks like they have aids. Massive virgin lmao
>500 PLN
What is that? Like $13.75?
Relax chuddie, this film wasn't leaning politically in any way.
Yeah but don't forget to dilate
Aren’t actresses like escorts though?
Not anymore
>Don't forget, she's also an escort and is so smart and reasonable and rational.
Then why did she become an escort?
lol that was the funniest part
>is a prostitute who has canonically done fetish stuff she wasn't into
>complains that she has to go to a restaurant and eat for free
she was more annoyed with how he was acting but yeah, she was clearly intentionally acting more like a girlfriend at the start so that the hooker reveal would hit harder.
That's what baffled me like. What did that add lol. The old guy pervs on her .. I don't remember if she ACTUALLY knew the guy
And then the guy hires a prostitute to dinner and she's like shocked she was invited cause he had nobody else
b***h ur a literal escort and he needed an escort lol literally in this case it took 2 to go so he couldn't solo.
>That's what baffled me like. What did that add lol.
Progressive moral bonus points. They've always had this fantasy of this sex worker in charge of her sexuality who's so smart and in charge yadda yadda yadda. It's a pure fantasy. The A24 films still operate on the leftist morality system, just they're a tad bit more subtle about it.
You know there's different philosophies and outlooks rights? Tons of religions too. To have only one philosophy represented over and over and over again is pretty tiresome, especially given how ghoulish and superficial it is.
>real world prostitutes are all drug addicts with room temp IQ's, even the high class ones real world prostitutes are all drug addicts with room temp IQ's, even the high class ones
Where did you get this idea? I used to see high end escorts and some of them were real conversationalists, could keep you spinning on your toes.
Imagine being some unemployed incel and getting so angry over someone dissing on the rich.
> unemployed incel
>I shall use my greatest insecurity and the source of my crippling depression as an insult to others and to make myself feel better
It’s always adorable
Imagine defending the rich from internet stranger's. Holy shit what is wrong with you?
This movie was not a critique of capitalism you fricking moron thinking that just because there’s stupid rich people in it means it’s critical of capitalism is like women thinking sam and frodo are gay because they’re bros
So it’s making fun of dumb people who fall for the fancy food scam? Does the movie promote non gmo, anti pesticides, not eating seed oils, and stuff like that?
It's about the chief realising there is beauty in simplicity and how all the accumulated cultural sophistication can become empty and tiresome.
About rediscovering childlike ammazement with simple things.
Just typical urbanite middle class fantasy, as artificial as haute cuisine.
There really isn't any viewpoint that doesn't make this movie seem misguided and pretentious. In the end he is still a depressed millionaire obsessing about food. There is nothing in this that's in any way relateable.
You don't have to relate to a character personally for them to be interesting or their actions to be understood. He made it to the top of his field doing something he loved and lost his passion in the process so he took it out on everyone else.
this whole idea of having to 'relate' to characters is truly a cancer on the creative industry
Isn't that literally the critic from ratitouttie.
How many times do you homosexuals have to be reminded of this basic b***h idea?
Old money rich are genetically superior.
OP, the social criticism against richgays was done to make the lower and mid classes feel like they "have a voice"...like they are being represented by socialist liberal hwood. it's not hard to realize that everyone involved in this movie already has a net worth above $2M, especially the guy who plays the main chef.
anyway. why does he always look so sad in every movie.
fairly large cast, and yet they didn't bother to hire many new actors to give them a shot. instead it's the same buttholes like anya, that guy from x-men, and john leguizamo whateverthefrick. pointless oscar-bait that completely missed the mark. also didn't see anything good about the asian lady's performance. boring waste of time. and none of the food looked good.
Are you serious about the food? The Mess looked fricking delicious. Also the chicken with tortillas.
What exactly made the film "Oscar bait?" Also the breadless bread dish was kino. Peasants need not apply.
>why does he always look so sad in every movie
you'd be sad too if you knew how bad things really were
>anyway. why does he always look so sad in every movie.
EH HEH HEH
>above $2million
mein guy, I have a net worth above 2 million and I'm just some butthole. the people who make those movies about 'eating the rich' have waaaaay more then that
nobody asked
2M is what the average person needs to retire. 50M is the new millionaire.
>hey guise, I am le chef
>OOOOHHHH YES CHEF
>I am le sad
>AWWWW CHEEEEF
>you all represent different sad fee fees in my sad sad life
>CHEF WHO AM I?
>you are le money that le controls me
>AAAACK I AM DEAD NOW
>CHEF CHEF WHAT ABOUT ME?
>you are le mean critic who destroys le livelihoods
>AWWWW GEE CHEF NO WAYYYY
>AY CHEF HOMES ESE WHAT DID I DO PENDEJO
>you are le artist that lost his le passion just like le me
>AHHHH SHIEEETTTT PENDEJO CHINGA TU MADRE
>ummm chef I am not impressed
>ofc, you are a pure prostitute who is literally just like me frfr ong no cap YOU SHOULDN'T BE HERE
>oh okay so um can I go?
>lol no
>CHEF CHEF I AM BASEDFACING OVER YOUR FOOD CAN I HAVE SOME GOOD BOY POINTS AND MAYBE A FUNKO POP FIGURE OF YOU??
>no lol you should have a nice day eksded
>OKAY CHEF LAWL YES CHEF WHATEVER YOU SAY CHEF
>so Mrs. ethical proletariat prostitute have you decided if you want to die with le us or with le them
>UHMMM AKSHULLY I WOULD LIKE LE CHEESEBURGER
>a... a ch-ch-cheeseburger...? wh-what is this... thing I'm f-f-feeeeling...? I FEEL ALIVE AGAIN
>thank you Mrs prostitute I feel just like ratatouille now you may go okay bye
>kaboom
>fin
where were you to summarize this flop before i wasted 2 hours watching a grainy camrip of it? oh well, i should have known better.
the point of the movie doesn't make much sense, since none of the workers or the chef were *forced* into their food service job. if they felt under appreciated they could have just changed careers. that's the main issue with this movie, and the reason why it flopped. the workers (and chef) act like they were enslaved.
This deleted scene perhaps should have made it in. Slowik did try to frick off and become an anonymous nobody cook. With his staff I think it's more that they realise this thing they've dedicated their whole life to is actually just unfulfilling, insane long hours of work with no pay off.
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>wasted 2 hours watching a grainy camrip of it
why the frick would you watch a camrip of a movie from a streaming service?
The workers and the chef were killing people anon. You're not necessarily supposed to think they're in the right in order to enjoy the film.
My favorite part of the movie was the random
>men = bad
>women = good
one, where the movie suddenly took a break from it's entire premise about that class of people so that one female cook got to stab the chef in the leg as payback for
>ignoring her after she rejected him???
and only the men had to participate in a chase game with only the male kitchen staff to demonstrate what cowardly and dumb losers men truly are despite the women heading back inside for gossip and to eat dessert, because it would've been unrealistic to have the female kitchen staff catch up to, subdue and bring back the rich dudebros.
>and only the men had to participate in a chase game with only the male kitchen staff to demonstrate what cowardly and dumb losers men truly are
did you miss the part where most of the guests were reprehensible buttholes? they were rich men, soft and weak - the strong, blue collar men of the kitchen staff catch them easily. men get unfairly shit on far too much in every facet of life, but this was not one of those moments
>but they abandoned their women
yes, because it was in-character for them to do so (they are buttholes remember), and because they didn't have a choice - remember Nux tries to stay and has no interest in fleeing, but the chef tells him 'yes, you too.'
and it was a great film
Hahahahahahahah
THANK GOODNESS THEY RESOLVED THAT WRITERS STRIKE SO WE CAN STILL ACCESS BRILLIANT KINO SUCH AS THIS GEM
Wow. Imagine getting the point of the movie so spectacularly wrong. Absolutely filtered.
trannies
There's a total meanness that I cannot get behind. If the film was a light hearted satire mocking right elite cooking with tons of laugh that's something I can get behind. I do feel we're supposed to not care or support the rich people getting fricking murdered. Anya's hands are clean so they make sure she isn't involved, because having a murder-hero is too much even for them. But we're supposed to see the ending as a good ending and they got what they deserved.
Oh and every god damn A24 film has this nihilistic grimness to it. Their worlds just seem so uncarring and sterile. No one seems to even like each other in these films. They make me paranoid as hell and uncomfortable and I watch films to relax and be distracted from bullshit in my life.
>Oh and every god damn A24 film has this nihilistic grimness to it. Their worlds just seem so uncarring and sterile. No one seems to even like each other in these films. They make me paranoid as hell and uncomfortable and I watch films to relax and be distracted from bullshit in my life.
Hmm that's actually very true now you point it out. It didn't bother me with this movie though since the whole point is everyone in that room is a piece of shit including the chef and staff.
It's cynical nihilism, which is chic and in now. They don't have loving caring worlds of empathetic people, and people cannot improve or change. There's no redemption or any way to improve things and nothing matters since it's just atoms and the void.
It's something I pick up on and it's just dreary and depressing. So contrast that with something like Berserk, which is explicitly drawn from Nietzchean philosophy and is set in a Nihilistic universe. Even there, there may be a lot of awfulness, but there are still some good people. There's still warmth and tenderness. There's still hope and some beauty. You can rise above the world around you and become a symbol of hope to guide others.
A24 films everyone seems like a soulless robot going through the motions, and no one cares for one another.
That's just modern movies. You can't make anything serious if it isn't also nihilistic. If you want a positive message it needs to be goofy and ironic.
It's because miserable fricks like the posters here love to take the piss out of films that are serious with a good message. There's still plenty of examples though, especially in animation (Soul and Puss in Boots first come to mind.) The Holdovers this year, Coda, Minari. There's a good amount even if you want to eliminate the "goofy" ones, as if that somehow discredits the messaging but they don't get watched or discussed as much. Shit like The Whale last year specifically goes against this nihilistic messaging with its theme.
>I do feel we're supposed to not care or support the rich people getting fricking murdered.
Its similar to old horror slashers like Friday the 13th in this vein. In these films there's some villain killing butthole degenerate teens, but there's still some "innocent" girl to rally behind and root for despite her faults. You're not necessarily rooting for them to die, it's sort of an apathetic feeling of them getting whats coming to them.
> I watch films to relax and be distracted from bullshit in my life
You should avoid most films that aren't standard blockbusters or cheesy romcoms then. This film clearly had horror/thriller vibes in the marketing and A24 is known for trying to pull out nuanced emotions.
>Oh and every god damn A24 film has this nihilistic grimness to it.
you should watch The Iron Claw, its a dark movie but it has a really touching ending
I remember hearing a rich guy say he had never walked on grass before in his life... he was like 60.
He’s more like an animal on a battery farm
It's my favourite movie other than Maverick the past couple of years.
Get fricked OP. The entire point is that Chef Slowik is unhinged. He even goes into some detail why with his violent childhood.
It's also a black comedy and supposed to be somewhat absurd.
Get fricked again.
Same. The majority of criticism for this movie on Cinemaphile can fit into a few baskets. Either "it's not realistic" "I don't get the basic premise or theme" or some other trite shit like the protagonist is a prostitute whatever
i genuinely think this movie is too smart for most people here and that's saying something because it's not even that deep.
It's a good movie but it misses the mark by an inch. The ending would have been much better if the chef fully acknowledged how hypocritical he had become by believing he was making god knows what by cooking, and the cheesburger was a reminder that he actually became all he hated. That is, imo he should have let everyone go and just kill himself because of that. By letting just the girl leave it's basically a slasher movie where only the heroine survives because she found out how to beat the monster.
It's pretty good up until the last five minutes, but the ending makes it fall flat.
They're horrible, dead inside people and you can see even they come to accept that. He is making them all pure again. They even all say "we love you chef" along with his staff right before he sets them on fire.
my vision for the ending doesn't imply that the customers were good people, but the chef understanding that he wasn't better than they are would have made a lot more sense with him releasing them.
Nah he says he's a piece of shit (and a prostitute) throughout. Gets the cook he hit on to stab him. Admitted part of him liked having his ego fed by the food critic. He hates himself and his life. He just got a brief glimpse of why he got into cooking in the first place but knows he can never go back to that life.
>He just got a brief glimpse of why he got into cooking in the first place but knows he can never go back to that life
yes that's why he should have an hero'd by himself and releasethe others. I dunno, for me the way it ended just sounds hypocritical. at some point iirc he complained that one of the customers never complimented on the food, or something like that, but then the ayy tells him she was starving at his restaurant and wanted a cheeseburger, I think it made it pretty clear
I don't get what you mean?
Yes a big part of why he's pissed off is he feels his art isn't appreciated.
His clientele are there so they can say they've been there (tech bros), simply because they can afford it (finger missing rich couple and John L) or because they are food critics (and she is so self satisfied when she finds a slightly broken emulsion to complain about). The only person there to appreciate the food is a douchebag "foodie" who is actually fricking deluded
>The only person there to appreciate the food is a douchebag "foodie" who is actually fricking deluded
He did nothing wrong and was punished for no reason. If anything he was created by people like the chef. He should've been let go.
he was deranged. chef informed him of the plan beforehand and he enthusiastically went along with it, he was an accomplice to mass murder.
I meant by the Chefs standards. Everyone else had a valid reason to be there and get punished by him.
To me the movie also fell apart with the ending, I like your idea of it better. Even if the now pretentious chef with his own little island cult of cooks to rule over didn't realize his hypocrisy (something that not even the main character ever called him out on, despite him having more resources and pull than most his guests and treating his lowers even worse than them) it just doesn't make sense that the bad rich people would just sit there and accept their fate. You can't have these people realize
>Yes, chef, you were right, let's all die together.
when otherwise you portray them as the last people who would do that, because they made their life stepping over others and that is why they are there the first place. But no, they are all somehow very self-aware cowards who would rather burn alive in shame and guilt than try their luck with some knife armed cooks blocking the door.
What did the critic lady even do aside from her job? And shouldn't the chef be thankful she stopped people from taking the same path he did?
It's made crystal clear that she is an elitist b***h who loves finding fault in things and thinks she is above every restaurant she goes to. Remember the tortillas with all the places she got shut down personally after a bad review?
Yeah... and? If you are as unhappy with the state of the industry as this guy is you should have sympathy for harsh critics.
And she is a fricking food critic! All the places she "shut down" would probably do fine just offering regular priced food for average people, is it a right to run a snobbish "fine foods" eatery? I really can't see the problem, it's like being angry at art or movie critics.
chef didn't think the food industry was shit because people weren't making fancy dishes like him, it was the opposite - he felt the craft had diappeared up it's own ass, partially due to ridiculous food critics like the woman in the movie
>food critic with enough pull to get restaurants shut down by her opinion alone
>smokes while eating
Until Anya took one bite and got "full" she deserved the worst
Another thing that is covered. There are a couple of escape attempts plus they even let the males do a runner with a full minute head start. it's clear they are all pissweak unfit cowards while the bigger cooks are basically bouncers.
Despite this Slowik even says to them at the end they probably could have escaped if they tried harder.
I feel like alot of criticism of this movie is due to overlooking things. Because I liked it I watched it several times and it made more sense each time.
despite that, it's still not supposed to be super realistic. remember that.
You make a good point of the earlier escape attempts, but that only makes it weirder that they didn't even try at the end and him pointing it out doesn't make it any less of a thing like in every other movie that points out its own flaws as a way to excuse them. And even then the earlier escape attempts were never really with their life on the line, they still clung to somehow being let-go or saved, etc. And guess what, how hard some struggles to live elevates pretty drastically when the room is being set on fire around them - hell, being stabbed at that point would probably suddenly seem like the better alternative.
yes by the time the building was on fire, people would be frantically trying to escape. but this is a movie, not a documentary, and the cast simply standing there accepting their firey death is a much better artistic choice
Thanks for reminding me what a contrived POS this movie was... nothing but LOOK AT ME IM WRITING! hackslop.
Him being a hypocrite doesn't invalidate anything though, just that he needs to die with them.
>>yeah so what if the director, writers, producers, and actors involved are all wealthy
I have not seen this movie, but wouldn't this be a prerequisite for understanding if rich people are bad
Why didn’t they kill the chef and leave?
Because we need the cheeseburger scene
Don't they forshadow her dying aswell when they mention the aged beef kills you if it is to old? I thought her hesitation after eating part of the burger was her realising she's fricked, too and embracing it by finishing the burger.
Wow. I didn't remember that Aged Beef line. She got fricking Jonestown'd with a Cheeseburger.
that's a good pick up but I don't buy into the theory he poisoned her.
Why would that line be in theovie then.
So you're saying that they deliberately over aged the beef ahead of time, knowing that black tech bro would ask about it, knowing that someone would be there that wasn't supposed to be there, knowing that she would break the script and ask for something not on the menu, knowing that it would be something made with beef?
Not to mention:
that wouldn't actually happen by overaging for one day. worst thing is you could get gastro if it was horrifically mishandled
he wouldn't use aged steak to make ground beef for a cheeseburger that was asked to be basic
I say the director put that line in for the audience to know there's deadly beef around. You understand that things in movies don't just happen, do you?
Yeah that's true. But I think the real point of some of the discourse during the tour is it pisses Elsa off how flippant these rich pricks are about something they dedicate their entire life to. Another example is when she shows them where they all sleep in the same room. I think the beef thing is more stfu and take this a bit more seriously.
Then let's say the ending is a little bit more open then 'last girl survives'. In regards to the movie following slasher tropes having a prostitute as the surviving girl also doesn't feel right.
Fair enough.
Anya looked really good in that dress though
>I voluntarily compromised on my artistic sensibilities to get awards
>Billionaires must fry
This movie was based. Frick Cinemaphile crybabies
Baby's first allegory narrative?
Watch more movies.
>allegory narrative
>I am so smart i understand a24 pretentious slop
The frick do you mean? You need to be virtually single digit IQ to not understand it. The movie screams its allegory at you. My point that beyond its allegory there is nothing else to this movie. Only a baby who have never seen another allegory narrative would be impressed by this. Watch more movies.
Every time this movie is brought up on here it is blatantly obvious that half the smooth brains on here do not understand it at all and only hate it because their chimp like brains can only comphrend LEFT BAD RIGHT GOOD
It's because the majority of the posters here now *only* view film as a vehicle for propaganda. As if that's some new concept that they're special for noooticing. And then their insight just amounts to apelike team loyalty about shit the film isnt even actually presenting like you said.
Meh
It’s ubiquitous that leftist politics infect all spaces and mediums these days and people are exhausted and over it. Yes these tropes exist in this movie also
>rich bad
>men bad
>white bad
>luxury bad
>options and opportunities bad
but that’s not the only thing being critiqued itt, not by a long shot.
None of these exist in the film or have anything to do with leftism
what is it chud? not enough michael bay explosion in there for you? no slow-mo like sneeder? hahahaha. can you even understand a masterpiece like this or you just being angry when you don't understand something? like when your dad couldn't figure out how dvd menus work so he beat up your mom and yelled at you? huh? huh? makes you feel like that huh? being little angry boy? huh huh??
hahaha
I legitimately hate every single A24 film, and they're an insult to actual good cinema. Pretty much anything Criterion releases blows these shitty films out of the water. They're tryhard pseud films not the real deal. Shitty pretentious films but utterly hollow (just like the ceremonies around the elite cooking?).
You're right, never thought about it this way - the movie is practically criticism of its own existence.
>chud
Transphobic slur
I feel like its more of a commentary on creativity and society's relationship with it then anything too political.
It was just a modern day, grimdark adults Willy Wonka film
Crazy talented guy invites people to his secret workshop where he gradually kills them off one by one
But releases the only one there who he deems innocent
You just described SAW though
For me it was when he said:
>"Most of you could have escaped, if you really tried"
This lampshade line strongly evokes that the movie doesn't give a frick about logic, only about its themes. Much like Rian Johnson movies.
I just think it's lazy, ideally you would want logic and themes to align without compromising either.
i believe it fits. the rich people were depicted as lazy and soft, unwilling to get their hands dirty.
Only a filthy civilian would think that a real chef would take requests.
>le kitchen is le battlefield
i'll never stop making fun of you people. go ask a roughneck on a drill rig or a jughound on seismic crew about how stressful and strenuous their jobs are. both unskilled labour btw
>unskilled labour btw
Skills are a requirement to be a chef.
>dicing carrots is a skill
>following a step by step set of instructions that a grandma can follow is skillful
You send your granny wouldn't survive getting up early enough for veg prep and be dead by service civvie.
my grandmother literally woke up at 5:30 every morning to chop enough vegetables for a family of 8 and slow cook meat
you're just a pussy and so are most 'chefs' (cooks)
>prep for 8 people
Top fricking KEK even by civvie standards you're totally clueless
and you wouldn't last a day on a drill rig or a seismic crew, what's your point?
Omg I have to drill down! You want to talk oil, try getting a perfect pan sear when you got every table full waiting. You don't know pressure.
>Civvie gets uppity about shit he has no knowledge of
I fricking DARE to take the Darden tour for at least a year and you'll change your tune. A limp wristed pussy like you would be a stomping mess before you even made it to Bahama Breeze
oh no not Bahama Breeze... as long as they don't follow it up with a Carribbean Cruise, i think i'll be ok
Kek you wouldn't make it to that point of the tour. You'd quit 2 hours into an olive garden shift you smug c**t. Wouldn't even make it as a dishwasher.
>i-is that...
>oh god no, it can't be-
>oh frick, it IS
>IT'S AN ORDER FOR A MEDIUM-WELL STEAK
>AHHHHH SAVE ME Black personMAN
>an (singular)
>thinks the chefs bring out the appetizers personally
*Sigh* you civvies really expose more and more how ignorant and pathetic you really are. You'd definitely shit your pants if you were put on the line.
do i have to come back there and rip a strip off you, little boy? i said no relish, extra onions. you want your $2 tip or not?
AHAHAHAHAAHH imagine the look on this civvies face when he finishes his shift and realizes he doesn't get a share of the tips. That is assuming he doesn't leave after pissing himself within the first 5 minutes.
>no see, i make EVEN LESS than you think! gotcha!
It's not for the pay but a civvie like you wouldn't understand. Probably never worked a hard days work in your life forget about having to deal with the culinary battlefield.
i do a real man's job - i jockey a register at 7/11. you kitchengays wouldn't understand what it's like trying to juggle putting a pizza in the oven, refill the slurpee machine and empty the garbages by the pumps!
>t. Coping civvie having a mental breakdown
Get well, lad
Go get me my free breadsticks, b***h.
So, if ordering a cheeseburger takeout, was the only way to escape, how come none of the rich tried?
I think you meant to post Triangle of Sadness, though it's understandable cause it came out the same year. The Menu is critical of wealthy people but that's not really the main point. Thats like a child's takeaway of the film or someone that just wants to b8 and shitpost.
Why does every thread for this movie have morons going
>"Why uh le mini chefs kill themselves for le big bad chef"
these wagies were living in an isolated place, sleeping in bunkers, eating slop, earning nothing on a billion year contract
It was a cult
>sleeping in bunkers, eating slop, earning nothing
That's the average American though
>this is the most thought provoking movie Cinemaphile has watched in years
Embarrassing
i watched crash (2004) for the first time recently, i'd say that was more thought provoking.
A million times over yes. How funny, I'm the anon that made all the effort posts about Ballard in the Crash thread last week
damn i didn't see your threads but just watched it on a whim. i lover The Menu but Crash makes it look like a student film
Oh christ you said 2004. ffs
I thought this movie was really exciting at first as I was wondering what they will do with the interesting premise. I thought it would be a slow descent into madness and everyone would get an ironic creative food related punishment but instead it just turned into a generic horror movie once the first chef sudoku'd.
Also the chef is just fully deranged and you feel 0 sympathy towards him because he is surprised his expensive exclusive restauraunt is being visited by rich people only. He could have opened his own humble restauraunt if he was so burnt out.
You're right about the film but you also completely misunderstood the villains motivations.
At one point the chef actually condemns someone to death because they managed to graduate from college without student loans. This movie is really just a grab-bag of resentment for the downwardly mobile kids of upper middle class boomers
It's a joke, meant to be absurd with a kernel of truth based on middle class resentment. It was funny too.
moron thinks the Menu is a critique of rich people. Just don't post if movies are too complicated for you.
ITT: temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
>you have to like this flick ruined by cringe social commentary
>or it means you disagree with social commentary
when are you going to prosecute larry fink and george soros for their crimes, the extreme far-right are the only true revolutionaries
it''s just a fun silly artsy movie
there is no need to be upset
>they can never understand real life like poor people
This is true though
Should have kept the food critic out of it. Someone needs to set standards in the every art form and be brutally honest like that music critic from almost famous said.
no they don't. taste does not require a curator
That's not what she's doing. For her it's a vanity thing and has nothing to do with the art.
Is this was a 2000's movie the prostitute would have died gruesomely
Depends on the year. Parts of the 90s and 00s were even more PC than today. Zoomies don't realize this shit comes in waves.
> Cinemaphile doesn’t realize that the mentally ill mass murderer and his suicide cult aren’t meant to be the heckin wholesome good guys
Well really, many normies missed this too
No its about an artist who art is not truly appreciated. Its probably what romantic music composers felt when they had to play for rich people in posh cafes and restaurants who talked over their compositions with "more important" stuff from thier own lives. Its probably why ferrari sues rappers and influencers flashing wads of cash with their cars in the background. Its about artists who create something beautiful only for the rappers and basic b***hes to ruin it.
>Racism out of nowhere
For what purpose?
Civvies would never understand.
Chef's assistant was my favorite character, she was played by Hong Chau, but her best role was in American Woman with Sarah Gadon.
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>adam mckay involved
yeah, im just gonna skip that one
If I remember right he just wanted to punish insincere arrogant posers that were handed everything instead of making it for themselves.
More a critique of nepotism and cronyism than capitalism.
Thank you Hollywood. Truely a shining light of morals and ethics
>More a critique of nepotism and cronyism than capitalism.
You're over thinking it, and giving them too much credit. They don't make any such distinction, and for them they just see all rich elite as nepotistic and guilty of cronyism. And it's rich elite white people, ie very least oppressed person in the oppression pyramid, and if anything the cause of oppression, ergo morally their lives are worth the least. We're meant to dehumanize them, and go along with the film.
>all rich elite as nepotistic and guilty of cronyism
That's mostly true though. Hollywood itself is a nepo baby infested rat hole.
there's obvious truth to it to some degree, and no one will deny that. But it's their whacked morality system, where differnet people have different moral value based on oppression, and they reject the liberal concept of moral equality.
They're also hypocrites. The group in the film is all white people - easy targets. Real world rich elites are somewhat diverse, with asians, africans, etc. And rich elites in India, Nigeria, etc are just as guilty of cronyism and nepotism (if anything those countries are more corrupt), yet you'd never see A24 make a film when the end a bunch of Indian millionaires all die. The film makers are complete cowards pretending to make daring films picking on easy targets. Predictable films, with predictable moralities doesn't reflect relaity or teach us anything.
Well no shit. You only can only include certain mainstream acceptable ideas in a film if you want to make a profit. Obviously if a movie kills a restaurant filled with Indians nobody will go see it and it will generate a backlash. This is why Hollywood never creates anything unique or daring.
>expecting Indian billionaires to turn up at some reclusive elite chef's restaurant
the guest list wasn't random anon.
The only takeaway from this movie was the chef getting mad at food snobs for thinking random dashes of sauce on a plate makes it the pinnacle of gastronomic delight and achievement.
cuisinegay here.
terrible movie.
case was pathetic too
my opinion is final
before you reply i don't care
>dude rich people are bad lmao
>they can never understand real life like poor people
I remember some doc about China or something, last scene was some billionaire CEO who said he missed his childhood, when he was poor, living in the countryside and hearing crickets or some shit like that. Now...what we can learn about this, Cinemaphile?