That would be a genuinely funny special. >Charlie Brown says something stupid on accident >Sally demands that he be cancelled for what he says >All the girls ostracize him >He tries to make amends, but says it in a way that gets twisted by Lucy to make even more kids mad >Even Linus tells him to "do better" >Shermy shows up for the first time in forever >The other kids tell him to not hang out with Charlie Brown because he's "cancelled" >Shermy proceeds to point out every awful thing each of them has done that's worse than whatever Charlie Brown did >Turns into a lesson of "He who casts the first stone..." and forgiven towards people who don't actually mean what they say >Everyone apologizes to Charlie Brown >He doesn't want to accept their apologies at first, but genuinely apologizes to Sally for what he said >The B-Plot with Snoopy has been that Snoopy has gotten into photography >One of Snoopy's photo's proves that Charlie Brown was justified in being mad at Sally
Hell, you can expand on the Shermy thing and have all the older characters (Patty, Violet, Frieda, etc.) Side with Charlie Brown and have it cause a big, polarizing split in the neighborhood. You could use it to explore how not talking stuff out can be really bad for everyone and stuff, and expand on older characters that haven't shown up in years.
>All of the big characters abandon him either out of disgust or fear of being canceled themselves >The older characters know Charlie Brown isn't that stupid, so they defend him >tensions keep increasing as people argue over if they believe or don't that Charlie Brown said what he did to Sally >The neighborhood is so divided they can't even organize the baseball team to play in the new season >And all this is happening all because of Charlie Brown, that blockhead.
It's also a good way to organically get the more popular characters out of the way in favor of exploring older characters.
It might be >just Franklin and Charile being good friends and bonding, instead of the writers using Franklin as a Gary Stu and him being perfect, while Charlie is a strawman who gets shit on (more than he typically does).
All these new Apple TV+ Peanuts specials are way too sappy and sentimental to fit the brand.
That CG movie hit a good balance of sentiment and cynicism and I hope the new one does as well.
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They rewrote Marcie into a borderline autist who loooooves books and must have her quiet time or else she has a sensory overload and spergs out. In the strip, Marcie is blunt-spoken, hits people if they piss her off, and doesn't afraid of anything. She's a hilarious character but the special ignores that and what you get is a gay message about beeing urself :))
I like the moment where Lucy pretends to be Marcie and you get to see her eyes -_-
For me that was the only enjoyable scene in this special.
This is actually a great pic to describe the new peanuts content. Peanuts was never edgy or anything but it had a rawness to it that the new show lacks.
It's like the people in charge right now just want everything to have that same payoff as the ending of the Charlie Brown Christmas special.
These new specials and shit don't actually 'get' Peanuts and how it leaned heavily towards cynicism but hid it via the setting being about little kids and a dog who somehow has PTSD flashbacks about a war he wasn't alive at the time for.
>Peanuts is getting political.
Getting? It always was. As said, including a black kid in a series was considered controversial. If you thought the online hate crowd over anything considered "woke" is bad, the genuine virulent racists who made no effort to hide their racism were far worse.
Which isn't to say that Charles Schulz was a lefty, pic related.
For me, shit isn't woke until you start forcing a political moral down your throat. The inclusion of a black character, gay character, heck even a troony, just for the sake of it, doesn't bother me.
>The inclusion of a black character, gay character, heck even a troony, just for the sake of it, doesn't bother me.
Somehow they're never the bad guy tho
>second black woman ever in the whole show >unrepentantly evil >her ass makes up 40% of her entire body >is not above fricking murdering puppies
She was a great character
Because there shouldn't even be a bad guy that's x thing to begin with. The moment "le bad" stop being used to slight people of gender or race, the second this stops being a problem in the fist place. What they need to do is stop trying to make bad guys unlikable, it's fricking fiction. Make them fun to watch do stupid villainy shit, I don't want some sad frick sapping all the fun out of the air because "I'm oppressed by the public waa waa waa".
Why would you expect the minority added to be a bad guy when said cast out of all the characters is majority hetro white? Basic statics already lean that villein is going to be white in some way or form.
You could go frick the numbers, but then we get questions like "Why do we never have majority black, mexican, etc teams in non Urban areas?"
>strawman
Nobody said all art is political, just that Peanuts specifically was never non-political
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>Peanuts specifically was never non-political
Then all art is political, because unless you want to knuckle-drag some hokey crap about Charlie Brown missing the football being a metaphor for capitalism (because everything is if you reach far enough, won't tell you where), not everything in Peanuts had a political message. Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes, a comic about kids is just a comic about kids.
man theres more brown people than i remember in peanuts
Gotta fill in those crowd shots. There's less than a dozen regularly-appearing kids in in the comics, and making the whole town white is just unrealistic (unless Peanuts takes place in Montana).
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Anon, Franklin not having a dad because he was off on Vietnam was a highly controversial statment at the time
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What statement was Linus giving up his blanket as a deal with his teacher so she quits biting her nails?
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Just because the comic was political doesn't mean absolutely everything on it was some kind of statement, moron
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>Then all art is political
Yes, it is. Abstaining from “being political” is a political stance too.
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You realize this exact statement is political, then? In fact, it's very specifically totalitarian.
Just because the comic was political doesn't mean absolutely everything on it was some kind of statement, moron
>strawman
Nobody said all art is political, just that Peanuts specifically was never non-political
>was never non-political >doesn't mean absolutely everything on it was some kind of statement
Pick one.
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>MUH EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL
WHAT A FRICKING WASTE OF A PERFECTLY WONDERFUL SET OF QUADS DAMMIT ANON
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Creating a comic strip about mean and cynical children after coming out of a world war that impact your faith in humanity and purity of even future generation, I think that's political from the get-go.
In American public schools until the 50 or 70s, a child could be compelled to join a religion service. It was against the 1st amendment to the US constitution, but some people said the removal on compulsory prayer was the same as making prayer illegal. In US tax payer funded private schools called 'charter schools' prayer can still be mandatory, despite this also being unconcstitutional. It's tolerated because rich people send their kids there.
Sally is acting as if the prayer, which was voluntary, was a class B felony.
It's not unconstitutional. What's unconstitutional is banning voluntary prayer clubs in schools under the lie of "not wanting to make other students feel left out".
It's unconstitutional because it's very obvious that it is a government funded public service making specifically Christian prayer mandatory. I know we try to be "polite" and pretend that "school prayer" could mean any religion, but it's specifically Christian. Separation of Church and State means that, even if the majority of the country is a specific religion, it still can not be endorsed or enforced by the State in any capacity.
But, to quote a famous radio host, "If you think you can remove God from schools by no having mandatory prayer, you don't actually have faith in God."
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>Can't be enforced
True >Can't be endorsed
False. >One nation under God
The United States is a Christian country and a school banning prayer is definitely unconstitutional.
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The population is Christian, but the government is suppose to strictly be agnostic at best. The "One Nation Under God" was specifically added in the 50s as political fluff against the virulently anti-religious Soviet Union.
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I agree, but it's a government still ran by majority Christians. A country having a strong religious identity can exist while keeping it separate from the state, but that separation will only stretch so far. We're kind of getting into a bigger discussion on whether or not a government can truly be free if religion though. Its something that should be examined on a case by case basis
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You're right; the government should not fund or control education.
You could read it both ways, really >Hell yeah, shall not be infringed! America! >You need to prove that you're a safe driver, but not that you're a safe gun owner? America...
Can be interpretted both ways though >jesus I need a license to fish, drive, and own a damn dog? Thank god we actually have one freedom left with the 2nd amendment >jesus you need a license to fish, drive, and own a dog but don't need one for a firearm? The audacity. and yes I subscribe to the former interpretation
>Getting? It always was.
We know. Real fans of Peanuts always knew.
OP isn't a fan, just a poltard. "If it's about blacks, it's about -ACKS." That's what poltard think politics are.
Actually not so. Franklin being black was not a political act in Schultz's eyes. Franklin not having a dad in the house because that dad was in Vietnam, was the statement.
>Apple >the most valuable company on the planet (mostly due to them selling overpriced paperweight bullshit that are sometimes worse than their competitors) >can't make a Peanuts special that isn't motion tweened garbage
Man it's true, Apple are full of a bunch of fricking penny pinchers.
This looks really good? The previous specials have fricked up the characters but since Franklin barely had any personality to begin with, this is gonna be a breath of fresh air.
In the comics Marcie is actually sarcastic and low-key aggressive. She started calling Patty "sir" to mock her, and takes any chance she can get to pretend Charlie Brown likes her better than Patty and shoves it in Patty's face. When Patty did much less Marcie physically attacked her. In school.
They rewrote Marcie into a borderline autist who loooooves books and must have her quiet time or else she has a sensory overload and spergs out. In the strip, Marcie is blunt-spoken, hits people if they piss her off, and doesn't afraid of anything. She's a hilarious character but the special ignores that and what you get is a gay message about beeing urself :))
I like the moment where Lucy pretends to be Marcie and you get to see her eyes -_-
For me that was the only enjoyable scene in this special.
For me, shit isn't woke until you start forcing a political moral down your throat. The inclusion of a black character, gay character, heck even a troony, just for the sake of it, doesn't bother me.
He’s existed since the thanksgiving special bro. This actually looks good rather than pandery non-sense. I won’t watch, of course, because only morons pay for streaming.
If it’s ever on actual television I’ll give it a shot.
>He’s existed since the thanksgiving special bro
Not a single person is complaining that “Oh no, black character exists!” like you moronic twitter tourists think is happening. The outcry is entirely because like
Is this even the first non-Charlie Brown/ Snoopy character to have a special focus on a them specifically? I know there was that weird Roger Rabbit type one for Snoopy’s brother but I’m not sure that counts
said, almost none of the main Peanuts cast has had a spotlight special like this, and especially not a side character like Franklin. Why are we getting it now? It’s entirely thanks to “Single Fathers and Convicts Month.”
Cry more homosexual. Black history month is moronic but this just makes you look pathetic. Let alone misinformed, they’ve given other characters specials.
yeah sure, it's an odd choice and is probably done for brownie points but if your problem starts and ends with "they picked the black kid" don't pretend there's any deeper motivations
> almost none of the main Peanuts cast has had a spotlight special like this >For Auld Lang Syne was about Lucy >One-of-a-kind Marcie was about Marcie >It’s the small things, Charlie Brown was about Sally >To Mom (and Dad) with Love was about Peppermint Patty >Lucy’s School was about Lucy AGAIN
Every Snoopy Presents special that has been made since Apple picked up Peanuts has been about a different character. At least know what the frick you’re talking about before saying shit like this
Is this even the first non-Charlie Brown/ Snoopy character to have a special focus on a them specifically? I know there was that weird Roger Rabbit type one for Snoopy’s brother but I’m not sure that counts
I don't know man, it looks pretty wholesome, i know that Franklin suddenly being Charlie's best pal is a retcon, but it's kinda cute seen a kid not rejecting and being nice to Charlie
It is a retcon. Franklin went to a different school than Charlie Brown, the same school that Peppermint Patty and Marcie went too. Franklin was part of Peppermint Patty's supporting cast rather than Charlie Brown's.
We went from a bunch of shows having the token black character to try and "attract audiences" to just pushing them into the protagonist role even though they're still surrounded by a bunch of white people with mostly white suburban or Californian experiences.
I dunno, somehow I don't think making Charlie Brown a side character is going to make PoC audiences happy with the state of Hollywood, but whatever.
And Hollywood is not aiming for that target. When they do things like make a completely irrelevant character the star of a show in a franchise named after another character, they're doing it because they want to appeal to "black audiences". Not because they want to appeal to "black kids who grew up in white neighborhoods". It's the same thing as trying to make a spin-off about Clyde from Loud House or about Susie from The Rugrats. These aren't brand names that their intended black audiences gave a shit about and they're really just coasting on Charlie Brown while trying to also say, "SEE? WE CARE ABOUT BLACK AUDIENCES, TOO!".
It would be way better if they turned pic related into a TV show, but nah. Let's just pretend Franklin is worthy of a spotlight instead of Anansi getting his own show.
anon, there are other specials made by apple on other characters, why the hell is the one about the black kid riling you up so much and what does anansi have to do with it?
>>BUT WHAT ABOUT
what a fricking conversation ender, holy shit. this type of argument sucks.
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anon, there are other posters made by anons on other boards, why the hell is the one about a franklin show riling you up so much and what does greentext have to do with it?
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See, now it's funny because I'm not the first anon you were replying to. I was just pointing out that boiling an argument down to its dumbest part isn't a good way to get your point across.
hey, you're the one that started with "what about OTHER SERIES" when it makes no sense to complain they're making a franklin special in a peanuts thread. i was just pointing out there are other peanuts characters focus special and i asked why the frick franklin's one is sending you down the deep end.
i mean, i know the answer, is that you're a pavlovian dog trained to ring the bell anytime Black folk are on screen, it's just that you pretend there's anything more than that.
Hmm, so how would you rather they portray black people society for black characters? Call it forced or not, but last I checked, blacks don't have anything but white people culture/society to lean on to make them look better off.
>blacks don't have anything but white people culture/society to lean on to make them look better off.
You say that, but I'm sure if you watched anything by Kenya Barris or Tyler Perry, you would be bored out of your gourd and say "this isn't for me". Are you really going to pretend that certain stories and dialogue DOESN'T attract different audiences? Do you think Larry David universally funny and that "Curb Your Enthusiasm" is a hit with all demographics?
Leave it to culture war dramagays to fall into hysterics over the most benign feel good content for kids. Do these people shit their pants every October when the Peanuts Halloween special plays because they think the Great Pumpkin is a metaphor for Satanism? Any "outcry" over something like this is probably the usual case of some parasitic influencer making multiple ad-optimized videos on a thing they didn't even bother to look into beyond a screenshot.
>Soapbox derby races
Love that shit, one of my favorite lesser used tropes. The Hey Arnold episode where Arnold and Eugene have to combine cars is one of my favorites
Yep, at the time you weren't supposed to put black characters on the same level as white ones. I don't have the image saved, but there's one floating around o Dennis the Menace where his black friend shows up, and the little dude looks like something out of a minstrel show.
Whys some anons think Franklin is getting special treatment when Lucy had TWO whole specials already, I don't know.
Hank's utterly clueless reaction that people got mad is priceless >A harmless little play on words and, I felt, a soft, amusing beginning. Not so. The rumble started in Detroit, then moved south to St. Louis where rocks and bottles were thrown through the windows of the Post-Dispatch. Newspaper boys were being chased and hassled in Little Rock, and in Miami some Herald editors were being threatened. The cancer quickly spread to other large cities. >I first heard the news in a midnight transatlantic telephone call to my Geneva apartment from the syndicate in New York. I was shocked, then frustrated, then mad as hell, and, at the request of my beleaguered colleagues fielding complaints from all over the country, dictated a statement to the client newspapers involved.
He'd try again in the 70s and it went over equally poorly then, and he fell back on ye olde "You can't make jokes anymore" logic >I made a point not to apologize but to express my utter dismay at the absurd reaction to my innocent cartoon and my amazement at the number of "art directors" out there. Any regular Dennis-watcher would surely know that I am never vindictive or show any intent to malign or denigrate. But I guess those violent protestants were not avid followers of newspaper comics. And they weren't complaining about the "gag"; it was my depiction of Dennis's new pal that got their tails in a knot. I gave them a miniature Stepin Fetchit when they wanted a half-pint Harry Belafonte. >It seems that Sammy Davis, Jr., was the only one who could safely poke fun at the minorities. To this day, Jackson remains in the ink bottle. A pity.
Hank's utterly clueless reaction that people got mad is priceless >A harmless little play on words and, I felt, a soft, amusing beginning. Not so. The rumble started in Detroit, then moved south to St. Louis where rocks and bottles were thrown through the windows of the Post-Dispatch. Newspaper boys were being chased and hassled in Little Rock, and in Miami some Herald editors were being threatened. The cancer quickly spread to other large cities. >I first heard the news in a midnight transatlantic telephone call to my Geneva apartment from the syndicate in New York. I was shocked, then frustrated, then mad as hell, and, at the request of my beleaguered colleagues fielding complaints from all over the country, dictated a statement to the client newspapers involved.
He'd try again in the 70s and it went over equally poorly then, and he fell back on ye olde "You can't make jokes anymore" logic >I made a point not to apologize but to express my utter dismay at the absurd reaction to my innocent cartoon and my amazement at the number of "art directors" out there. Any regular Dennis-watcher would surely know that I am never vindictive or show any intent to malign or denigrate. But I guess those violent protestants were not avid followers of newspaper comics. And they weren't complaining about the "gag"; it was my depiction of Dennis's new pal that got their tails in a knot. I gave them a miniature Stepin Fetchit when they wanted a half-pint Harry Belafonte. >It seems that Sammy Davis, Jr., was the only one who could safely poke fun at the minorities. To this day, Jackson remains in the ink bottle. A pity.
I'm confused too, these are not only cute but downright progressive for the time, why would people be angry? Or am I misunderstanding and it was racists who were angry about them?
It's the design of the little black boy. It's rooted in blackface, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having an inspiring character. Assuming your white, this would be the equivalent of someone that looks like this being a friendly amicable chap, but is still drawn in a very heavily caricaturized way. There's a reason why people praise Franklin and not that other kid.
>It's rooted in blackface,
Just looks like a stylized black kid to me, what specifically makes it blackface? > this would be the equivalent of someone that looks like this being a friendly amicable chap
Nothing is wrong with the way that character is drawn it's what he's saying that's bad, what was wrong with the dialogue in those dennis the menace strips?
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>what specifically makes it blackface?
anon, just look at him. he's pitch black, has big ass eyes that no one else in dennis has, and his lips take up a third of his face.
If you like the art that's fine, Ketcham is a good artist, the same way Al Jolson was a great singer and you can like his performance, but it's still racist
He doesn't really have a personality outside of being a straightman to other characters, which is kind of Charlie Brown's role. And his gimmick is that he's black.
I absolutely love how these specials shit on all the character’s existing personalities for the sake of wholesomeness. That one sally baseball special had one of the most mischaracterized driven plots I’ve ever seen in a piece of media. Which sucks cause Sally is a very underrated and misinterpreted character even ignoring modern peanuts. People only know her from the specials when in the strips she feels like an entirely different (and better) character.
I get why they went with him, but it's a little weird just because he's a side character. But if it's good and don't pander too much into the "muh black lives matter" then I don't care, allows like some peanuts kino
>Ernie was a hardcore republican
source? I know that Ernie was pretty private so I never really heard about his political/religious views. Love his work though
Also, I don't know why but the Guy Gilchrist strips piss me off so much, even when it actually tries to tell a joke. I can't explain it but it doesn't feel like Nancy at all
Gilchrist used Nancy to peddle boomer nostalgia (reality TV bad! 'member Good Times??) or sappy bible thumping. Also never passed up a chance to draw Fritzi in something skimpy. Think there was a rumour of him about being fired for sex pesting rather than retiring.
In any case, no sane Bushmiller or Olivia James fan has a nice thing to say about him.
I've read he was conservative as well, although I can't remember the source. I don't recall his views being characterized as particularly severe or extreme enough to be considered "hardcore" though.
Ernie Bushmiller stopped talking to Charles Schultz because Charles kept on talking about Jesus
Also Ernie was a hardcore republican
Also in fairness, political alignments were a bit different back then. Christianity was less aligned specifically with the right (even the broad notion of "Christianity" had less steam back then- people were more keen on their specific denominations or the broad differences between Protestantism and Catholicism). It's a mistake to read too much into the politics of Schulz's religion, at least until the 1980s when things really start to shift.
This. I don't think younger than the oldest Gen Xers remembers the time before Christianity was specifically politicized as the "Moral Majority" and how televangelists basically pushed the Methodist/Pentecostal tent revival style that makes up the back-bone of what we'd consider the stereotypical "Fundamentalist Christian" sermon. I remember my grandparents being VERY opinionated about specific other denominations. They even taught us that Catholics weren't even Christians.
>spinoff cartoon is made starring a random background character
Genuinely curious not baiting here. But if Planet Sheen came out today, would you guys call it "politcal" too?
>but because Sheen is Latino and Cinemaphile rarely complains about Latino leads.
That's because Cinemaphile is filled with Latinos. Why do you think there's so many threads whining about black people being in media? I tested this by randomly calling someone a slur for Hispanic people and I got banned immediately.
I first noticed this in a thread here where someone insulted catholics over protestants and got like 30 seething replies
Alos only tangentially related but I find it hilarious how pro-sub/anti-dub Cinemaphile at large is but the same anons going on like that also cream themselves over the mexican simpsons dub
Isn't that the one where the girls frick everything up, kick the boys out of the cabin because they're girls and of course deserve everything handed to them, and frick everything up again in the ending? It had a hilariously anti-feminist message.
I think that was literally suppose to be the joke. Like if there was a movie where the boys try to act like women-hating he-men and chase the girls away, only to desperately need their help when they screw up.
>Bioshock is just keeping a tradition you can break very easily, so the game didn't age well for it's "structure".
homie what? It's a game about a man who built a truly free society of the best and brightest which collapsed due to fundamentally incompatable ideas.
it was a rising industry and the joke is probably that she's doing something way too advanced for her age.
i got to use one of those old pcs on my trip to italy and they're pretty hard to use without proper knowledge
Programming was considered a low pay industry and for women before it took off. It was so completely different, even my family that can't operate windows without help were considered middle level in the industry at that time.
Peanuts always had modern of it's time things in it. But because the Christmas special and Great Pumpkin are the most watched people think it's always stuck in one period.
Wasn't there a whole racist reasoning as to why Franklin was on the other side of the table in the original special? IIRC, they actually had to fight to include him in that scene at all. From what I'm aware, Schultz would probably be okay with this type of thing happening. Dunno about any of the other specials, this is the first I've heard of these.
Well I double checked, and I'm reading that it may not have been intentionally done for anything other than the gag about the chair, though it's true that Franklin had some controversy surrounding him when he was initially put in the comic. Didn't intend to give the wrong idea.
It looks bland and it seems dumb how all of the sudden Charlie and Franklin are butt buddies now. Then there's the moronic table scene. Really? The Thanksgiving scene twisted your panties that much?
I don’t really mind most of what was in the trailer, but I was always under the impression (perhaps mistakenly, due to the TV specials), that Charlie and Linus were more best friends. Then again, I think Linus is younger.
I know they DIDN'T make this special just to correct one panel in the comics. They probably have a whole series of character spotlight specials since Lucy and Marcie got their own. But I like to think that this was such a big meme, it travelled all the way to the writers room and they felt like they it was important to correct it or something.
>it travelled all the way to the writers room and they felt like they it was important to correct it or something.
That's what makes it so funny and pathetic at the same time.
I wouldn’t really call it pathetic. While the original intention might not have been negative, it’s clear that there’s been some interpretation of it being so. It’s basically a cute reference that’s trying to clean the slate.
the empty side is for the camera to view from.
And since Franklin is mostly just the straight man to the other character's antics, he gets to be our stand in sitting at the fourth wall watching this all unfold.
>Made a nice thread for talking about a cartoon I like. >Only to get trashed thanks to shit threads like this.
Every. single. FRICKING. time!
Poltards like yourselves should be banned from all boards because I seriously hate you frickers to pieces.
Why would anyone want to post this? Oh right, just to cry at nothing else except their own empty heads full of boogeymen to scream at.
I don't care; Misc was a mistake since day one and should've never be invented in the first place.
Cinemaphile was fun until that board got made and turned this site into a mess.
I don't care; Misc was a mistake since day one and should've never be invented in the first place.
Cinemaphile was fun until that board got made and turned this site into a mess.
I couldn't agree more. Every /misc/tard should be fricking shipped to Mexico and beheaded, so that we HUMANS can browse this site in peace.
This b***h is seriously at the pool, feet in the water wearing a swimsuit like she's ready to swim, READING A BOOK! Someone is gonna splash water on her and ruin her pages. NuMarcie fricking sucks it's such a lame Flanderization of her character
It always had been, remember they were one of the first ones to depict black characters between white focused cartoons, and jsut like sesame street I wouldn't be surprised if they end up showing naked trannies in a couple of years jsut like dutch TV
Think about it: has anyone working on this even attempted the whole, "This is a [protected demographic] story, no ["oppressive" demographic] allowed!" thing? Maybe they're just getting smart, but you know the people who would do that just can't help themselves.
I think it'll be a Spiderverse situation; it's not being marketed divisively, and whatever "woke" messaging is in the final product won't be in the way enough for anyone to notice unless they've already primed themselves to, and I don't think those people even have an Apple TV. I know I don't...
Friendly reminder this was from an official tweet.
That's a Racial Microaggression, Charlie Brown!
Micro like the size of your white penis.
IS Franklin one of the good ones though?
He's the only one Charlie spared.
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You're Being Canceled, Charlie Brown!
That would be a genuinely funny special.
>Charlie Brown says something stupid on accident
>Sally demands that he be cancelled for what he says
>All the girls ostracize him
>He tries to make amends, but says it in a way that gets twisted by Lucy to make even more kids mad
>Even Linus tells him to "do better"
>Shermy shows up for the first time in forever
>The other kids tell him to not hang out with Charlie Brown because he's "cancelled"
>Shermy proceeds to point out every awful thing each of them has done that's worse than whatever Charlie Brown did
>Turns into a lesson of "He who casts the first stone..." and forgiven towards people who don't actually mean what they say
>Everyone apologizes to Charlie Brown
>He doesn't want to accept their apologies at first, but genuinely apologizes to Sally for what he said
>The B-Plot with Snoopy has been that Snoopy has gotten into photography
>One of Snoopy's photo's proves that Charlie Brown was justified in being mad at Sally
Shit, that actually sounds pretty good.
I would say replace Shermy with Schroder, because the latter is based, but having Sherming (a forgotten character) do it makes it even better.
Hell, you can expand on the Shermy thing and have all the older characters (Patty, Violet, Frieda, etc.) Side with Charlie Brown and have it cause a big, polarizing split in the neighborhood. You could use it to explore how not talking stuff out can be really bad for everyone and stuff, and expand on older characters that haven't shown up in years.
>All of the big characters abandon him either out of disgust or fear of being canceled themselves
>The older characters know Charlie Brown isn't that stupid, so they defend him
>tensions keep increasing as people argue over if they believe or don't that Charlie Brown said what he did to Sally
>The neighborhood is so divided they can't even organize the baseball team to play in the new season
>And all this is happening all because of Charlie Brown, that blockhead.
It's also a good way to organically get the more popular characters out of the way in favor of exploring older characters.
>t. time traveling scriptwriter from the 80's
ayo what the frick aint no way. this is lowkey funny as frick
Please be good. Please be good. Please be good.
It might be
>just Franklin and Charile being good friends and bonding, instead of the writers using Franklin as a Gary Stu and him being perfect, while Charlie is a strawman who gets shit on (more than he typically does).
How would Franklin be a Gary Stu? Doesn't he need a personality first?
>Doesn't he need a personality first
Why would he need a personality to be a opposite mary sue?
All these new Apple TV+ Peanuts specials are way too sappy and sentimental to fit the brand.
That CG movie hit a good balance of sentiment and cynicism and I hope the new one does as well.
They ruined Lucy.
What happened in this one?
Lucy is sad that summer is ending so she starts her own school, which only makes everyone mad at her.
rofl remember when she was sad her grandma couldn't visit for Xmas so she made everyone do a New Year's Party, which only makes everyone mad at her?
Yes I do
Lucy needs to suffer; is the blonde girl the one that had cancer and Linus was in love with?
This is actually a great pic to describe the new peanuts content. Peanuts was never edgy or anything but it had a rawness to it that the new show lacks.
It's like the people in charge right now just want everything to have that same payoff as the ending of the Charlie Brown Christmas special.
These new specials and shit don't actually 'get' Peanuts and how it leaned heavily towards cynicism but hid it via the setting being about little kids and a dog who somehow has PTSD flashbacks about a war he wasn't alive at the time for.
reminder that franklin being allowed on the strip in the first place was political
>Peanuts is getting political.
Getting? It always was. As said, including a black kid in a series was considered controversial. If you thought the online hate crowd over anything considered "woke" is bad, the genuine virulent racists who made no effort to hide their racism were far worse.
Which isn't to say that Charles Schulz was a lefty, pic related.
Yeah I hate american direction brains who think the only two political beliefs you can have are either "woke" or "racist"
For me, shit isn't woke until you start forcing a political moral down your throat. The inclusion of a black character, gay character, heck even a troony, just for the sake of it, doesn't bother me.
>The inclusion of a black character, gay character, heck even a troony, just for the sake of it, doesn't bother me.
Somehow they're never the bad guy tho
What are you babbling about?
Why are the villains always straight white men?
>second black woman ever in the whole show
>unrepentantly evil
>her ass makes up 40% of her entire body
>is not above fricking murdering puppies
She was a great character
>Somehow they're never the bad guy tho
Factually wrong
Because there shouldn't even be a bad guy that's x thing to begin with. The moment "le bad" stop being used to slight people of gender or race, the second this stops being a problem in the fist place. What they need to do is stop trying to make bad guys unlikable, it's fricking fiction. Make them fun to watch do stupid villainy shit, I don't want some sad frick sapping all the fun out of the air because "I'm oppressed by the public waa waa waa".
Why would you expect the minority added to be a bad guy when said cast out of all the characters is majority hetro white? Basic statics already lean that villein is going to be white in some way or form.
You could go frick the numbers, but then we get questions like "Why do we never have majority black, mexican, etc teams in non Urban areas?"
Unfortunately anon, this is Cinemaphile, half the people here won’t be able to process what you have said.
In other boards, it's 90% that wouldn't be able to.
>It always was
Like fricking clockwork with you revisionist goblins.
Cope
Shut up homosexual
>strawman
Nobody said all art is political, just that Peanuts specifically was never non-political
>Peanuts specifically was never non-political
Then all art is political, because unless you want to knuckle-drag some hokey crap about Charlie Brown missing the football being a metaphor for capitalism (because everything is if you reach far enough, won't tell you where), not everything in Peanuts had a political message. Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes, a comic about kids is just a comic about kids.
Gotta fill in those crowd shots. There's less than a dozen regularly-appearing kids in in the comics, and making the whole town white is just unrealistic (unless Peanuts takes place in Montana).
Anon, Franklin not having a dad because he was off on Vietnam was a highly controversial statment at the time
What statement was Linus giving up his blanket as a deal with his teacher so she quits biting her nails?
Just because the comic was political doesn't mean absolutely everything on it was some kind of statement, moron
>Then all art is political
Yes, it is. Abstaining from “being political” is a political stance too.
You realize this exact statement is political, then? In fact, it's very specifically totalitarian.
>was never non-political
>doesn't mean absolutely everything on it was some kind of statement
Pick one.
>MUH EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL
WHAT A FRICKING WASTE OF A PERFECTLY WONDERFUL SET OF QUADS DAMMIT ANON
Creating a comic strip about mean and cynical children after coming out of a world war that impact your faith in humanity and purity of even future generation, I think that's political from the get-go.
Family Guy was always political doe (and was never good)
There is almost no difference from Family Guy and MGS actually tho besides less jokes.
t. Someone who played Metal Gear games
I do not understand the joke in this one.
In American public schools until the 50 or 70s, a child could be compelled to join a religion service. It was against the 1st amendment to the US constitution, but some people said the removal on compulsory prayer was the same as making prayer illegal. In US tax payer funded private schools called 'charter schools' prayer can still be mandatory, despite this also being unconcstitutional. It's tolerated because rich people send their kids there.
Sally is acting as if the prayer, which was voluntary, was a class B felony.
It's not unconstitutional. What's unconstitutional is banning voluntary prayer clubs in schools under the lie of "not wanting to make other students feel left out".
It's unconstitutional because it's very obvious that it is a government funded public service making specifically Christian prayer mandatory. I know we try to be "polite" and pretend that "school prayer" could mean any religion, but it's specifically Christian. Separation of Church and State means that, even if the majority of the country is a specific religion, it still can not be endorsed or enforced by the State in any capacity.
But, to quote a famous radio host, "If you think you can remove God from schools by no having mandatory prayer, you don't actually have faith in God."
>Can't be enforced
True
>Can't be endorsed
False.
>One nation under God
The United States is a Christian country and a school banning prayer is definitely unconstitutional.
The population is Christian, but the government is suppose to strictly be agnostic at best. The "One Nation Under God" was specifically added in the 50s as political fluff against the virulently anti-religious Soviet Union.
I agree, but it's a government still ran by majority Christians. A country having a strong religious identity can exist while keeping it separate from the state, but that separation will only stretch so far. We're kind of getting into a bigger discussion on whether or not a government can truly be free if religion though. Its something that should be examined on a case by case basis
You're right; the government should not fund or control education.
only fake fans complain about "woke" are fake fans who want to force their agenda. first it was feminist now its conservatives
You live in a fantasy world
Yeah it's the same one you live in
No like you're actually delusional. It's sad
Not sure if this is supposed to be pro or anti gun
You could read it both ways, really
>Hell yeah, shall not be infringed! America!
>You need to prove that you're a safe driver, but not that you're a safe gun owner? America...
Can be interpretted both ways though
>jesus I need a license to fish, drive, and own a damn dog? Thank god we actually have one freedom left with the 2nd amendment
>jesus you need a license to fish, drive, and own a dog but don't need one for a firearm? The audacity.
and yes I subscribe to the former interpretation
Shulz initially resisted putting a black character in the strip because he thought it could only be a meaningless token. He was right.
>Getting? It always was.
We know. Real fans of Peanuts always knew.
OP isn't a fan, just a poltard. "If it's about blacks, it's about -ACKS." That's what poltard think politics are.
Actually not so. Franklin being black was not a political act in Schultz's eyes. Franklin not having a dad in the house because that dad was in Vietnam, was the statement.
>Franklin being black was not a political act in Schultz's eyes
But you can bet your ass it was in the eyes of many other people
>Apple
>the most valuable company on the planet (mostly due to them selling overpriced paperweight bullshit that are sometimes worse than their competitors)
>can't make a Peanuts special that isn't motion tweened garbage
Man it's true, Apple are full of a bunch of fricking penny pinchers.
>James Brown Charlie Brown joke
Oh frick off. That joke stopped being funny in the 1970s.
I just want a peppermint patty in my life bros. But like an adult peppermint patty. Who wants my penis and stuff.
>they actually did the thing
Oh my fricking Christ, my sides. Frick.
Why is Franklin the only one on the other side of the table?
Because there was no room.
He is sitting at the back of the table
I mean the real reason is he wasn't actually supposed to be in that scene at all and they just kind of crammed him in last minute, but that's not fun.
Literally so it could air on TV in the South.
WHERES DA MOIDAH POWDAH?
THEY RIGHTED THE WRONGS OF THE PAST
FRANKLIN GOT TO SIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE
THIS IS A HUGE WIN FOR JUSTICE
>Yo, somebody check this mothafricka for explosives?
This looks really good? The previous specials have fricked up the characters but since Franklin barely had any personality to begin with, this is gonna be a breath of fresh air.
>Getting
You clearly never watched or read Peanuts.
LE HECKIN TABLERINO
Who sits on the far side now?
I don't see anything objectionable about this, and I have a good few years of culture-war brainrot under my belt
Thoughts on the Marcie special?
Massively out of character.
Agreed.
Marcie may be an introvert, but she's NOT autistic.
qrd?
In the comics Marcie is actually sarcastic and low-key aggressive. She started calling Patty "sir" to mock her, and takes any chance she can get to pretend Charlie Brown likes her better than Patty and shoves it in Patty's face. When Patty did much less Marcie physically attacked her. In school.
They rewrote Marcie into a borderline autist who loooooves books and must have her quiet time or else she has a sensory overload and spergs out. In the strip, Marcie is blunt-spoken, hits people if they piss her off, and doesn't afraid of anything. She's a hilarious character but the special ignores that and what you get is a gay message about beeing urself :))
I like the moment where Lucy pretends to be Marcie and you get to see her eyes -_-
For me that was the only enjoyable scene in this special.
Marcie is Asian like Honey in Doonesbury who was based off her
The only thing you could consider political is that there’s a black kid. This is just a nice special with charlie brown making a new friend.
>new friend
That’s the only moronic part
Charlie Brown already knows Franklin, how is he new?
>PEANUTS HAS GONE WOKE
He’s existed since the thanksgiving special bro. This actually looks good rather than pandery non-sense. I won’t watch, of course, because only morons pay for streaming.
If it’s ever on actual television I’ll give it a shot.
>He’s existed since the thanksgiving special bro
Not a single person is complaining that “Oh no, black character exists!” like you moronic twitter tourists think is happening. The outcry is entirely because like
said, almost none of the main Peanuts cast has had a spotlight special like this, and especially not a side character like Franklin. Why are we getting it now? It’s entirely thanks to “Single Fathers and Convicts Month.”
Cry more homosexual. Black history month is moronic but this just makes you look pathetic. Let alone misinformed, they’ve given other characters specials.
>N-no I'm totally not seething over blacks!
>Proceeds to be blatantly racist in the last sentence
yeah sure, it's an odd choice and is probably done for brownie points but if your problem starts and ends with "they picked the black kid" don't pretend there's any deeper motivations
>NOOOOO YOU CAN’T DO A SPECIAL ABOUT A BLACK KID AND THEN RELEASE IT DURING THE ONE MONTH IT WOULD LOGICALLY GAIN THE MOST AMOUNT OF ATTENTION
> almost none of the main Peanuts cast has had a spotlight special like this
>For Auld Lang Syne was about Lucy
>One-of-a-kind Marcie was about Marcie
>It’s the small things, Charlie Brown was about Sally
>To Mom (and Dad) with Love was about Peppermint Patty
>Lucy’s School was about Lucy AGAIN
Every Snoopy Presents special that has been made since Apple picked up Peanuts has been about a different character. At least know what the frick you’re talking about before saying shit like this
>almost none of the main Peanuts cast has had a spotlight special like this
You have no fricking idea what you're talking about you dumb Youtube addict
You're on a chinese basket weaving form. At least have a centimeter penis long enough to admit your racist.
Dude, it's fricking Peanuts, the fact that any of them got any focus outside of Charlie Brown is amazing in and of itself, so I'm not complaining
Is this even the first non-Charlie Brown/ Snoopy character to have a special focus on a them specifically? I know there was that weird Roger Rabbit type one for Snoopy’s brother but I’m not sure that counts
There's been a Marcie special and two Lucy specials.
They started letting them play and one homie slit a guys throat in front of a crowd.
Oh yeah, I remember that. The media tried to frame it as an accident.
>no one gives a frick about hockey, they just want to see violence
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
Friendship with Linus over. Now Franklin is my best friend.
Marge>shultz
man theres more brown people than i remember in peanuts
I don't know man, it looks pretty wholesome, i know that Franklin suddenly being Charlie's best pal is a retcon, but it's kinda cute seen a kid not rejecting and being nice to Charlie
It is a retcon. Franklin went to a different school than Charlie Brown, the same school that Peppermint Patty and Marcie went too. Franklin was part of Peppermint Patty's supporting cast rather than Charlie Brown's.
We went from a bunch of shows having the token black character to try and "attract audiences" to just pushing them into the protagonist role even though they're still surrounded by a bunch of white people with mostly white suburban or Californian experiences.
I dunno, somehow I don't think making Charlie Brown a side character is going to make PoC audiences happy with the state of Hollywood, but whatever.
There are black people who live up in largely white areas and predominantly grow up with white friends.
And Hollywood is not aiming for that target. When they do things like make a completely irrelevant character the star of a show in a franchise named after another character, they're doing it because they want to appeal to "black audiences". Not because they want to appeal to "black kids who grew up in white neighborhoods". It's the same thing as trying to make a spin-off about Clyde from Loud House or about Susie from The Rugrats. These aren't brand names that their intended black audiences gave a shit about and they're really just coasting on Charlie Brown while trying to also say, "SEE? WE CARE ABOUT BLACK AUDIENCES, TOO!".
It would be way better if they turned pic related into a TV show, but nah. Let's just pretend Franklin is worthy of a spotlight instead of Anansi getting his own show.
>Snoopy is allowed to have a spin-off
>But Franklin? FRICK NO! IT’S DISINGENUOUS AND COASTING ON CHARLIE BROWN
Snoopy is a mascot, mother fricker.
anon, there are other specials made by apple on other characters, why the hell is the one about the black kid riling you up so much and what does anansi have to do with it?
>BUT WHAT ABOUT
what a fricking conversation ender, holy shit. this type of argument sucks.
>>BUT WHAT ABOUT
what a fricking conversation ender, holy shit. this type of argument sucks.
anon, there are other posters made by anons on other boards, why the hell is the one about a franklin show riling you up so much and what does greentext have to do with it?
See, now it's funny because I'm not the first anon you were replying to. I was just pointing out that boiling an argument down to its dumbest part isn't a good way to get your point across.
hey, you're the one that started with "what about OTHER SERIES" when it makes no sense to complain they're making a franklin special in a peanuts thread. i was just pointing out there are other peanuts characters focus special and i asked why the frick franklin's one is sending you down the deep end.
i mean, i know the answer, is that you're a pavlovian dog trained to ring the bell anytime Black folk are on screen, it's just that you pretend there's anything more than that.
this is not a miles morales situation, it's a character spinoff in a series of other character spinoffs
Oh shit, we had that book in my elementary school library. That shit was so cash.
>toad expected the cat to be its servant and promote its toad stories
Get rekt, begger.
Hmm, so how would you rather they portray black people society for black characters? Call it forced or not, but last I checked, blacks don't have anything but white people culture/society to lean on to make them look better off.
>blacks don't have anything but white people culture/society to lean on to make them look better off.
You say that, but I'm sure if you watched anything by Kenya Barris or Tyler Perry, you would be bored out of your gourd and say "this isn't for me". Are you really going to pretend that certain stories and dialogue DOESN'T attract different audiences? Do you think Larry David universally funny and that "Curb Your Enthusiasm" is a hit with all demographics?
Leave it to culture war dramagays to fall into hysterics over the most benign feel good content for kids. Do these people shit their pants every October when the Peanuts Halloween special plays because they think the Great Pumpkin is a metaphor for Satanism? Any "outcry" over something like this is probably the usual case of some parasitic influencer making multiple ad-optimized videos on a thing they didn't even bother to look into beyond a screenshot.
Buddy, no one is outraged by this. Relax a little
The only people decrying this as "woke" are anons mocking people who decry "woke" things.
Only thing I remember about Franklin is that he likes hockey. He wasn't phased out like those 2 girls,right?
Charles Schultz wouldn’t have approved to this.
"I'm Charlie Brown."
"I'm Franklin, White."
Having Frankin's last name be White would be pretty funny ngl.
>Soapbox derby races
Love that shit, one of my favorite lesser used tropes. The Hey Arnold episode where Arnold and Eugene have to combine cars is one of my favorites
Franklin existing is political?
he was when he was invented, the newspaper almost fired schultz over it
Yep, at the time you weren't supposed to put black characters on the same level as white ones. I don't have the image saved, but there's one floating around o Dennis the Menace where his black friend shows up, and the little dude looks like something out of a minstrel show.
Whys some anons think Franklin is getting special treatment when Lucy had TWO whole specials already, I don't know.
kek
Hank's utterly clueless reaction that people got mad is priceless
>A harmless little play on words and, I felt, a soft, amusing beginning. Not so. The rumble started in Detroit, then moved south to St. Louis where rocks and bottles were thrown through the windows of the Post-Dispatch. Newspaper boys were being chased and hassled in Little Rock, and in Miami some Herald editors were being threatened. The cancer quickly spread to other large cities.
>I first heard the news in a midnight transatlantic telephone call to my Geneva apartment from the syndicate in New York. I was shocked, then frustrated, then mad as hell, and, at the request of my beleaguered colleagues fielding complaints from all over the country, dictated a statement to the client newspapers involved.
He'd try again in the 70s and it went over equally poorly then, and he fell back on ye olde "You can't make jokes anymore" logic
>I made a point not to apologize but to express my utter dismay at the absurd reaction to my innocent cartoon and my amazement at the number of "art directors" out there. Any regular Dennis-watcher would surely know that I am never vindictive or show any intent to malign or denigrate. But I guess those violent protestants were not avid followers of newspaper comics. And they weren't complaining about the "gag"; it was my depiction of Dennis's new pal that got their tails in a knot. I gave them a miniature Stepin Fetchit when they wanted a half-pint Harry Belafonte.
>It seems that Sammy Davis, Jr., was the only one who could safely poke fun at the minorities. To this day, Jackson remains in the ink bottle. A pity.
Holy shit
I'm confused too, these are not only cute but downright progressive for the time, why would people be angry? Or am I misunderstanding and it was racists who were angry about them?
It's the design of the little black boy. It's rooted in blackface, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having an inspiring character. Assuming your white, this would be the equivalent of someone that looks like this being a friendly amicable chap, but is still drawn in a very heavily caricaturized way. There's a reason why people praise Franklin and not that other kid.
>It's rooted in blackface,
Just looks like a stylized black kid to me, what specifically makes it blackface?
> this would be the equivalent of someone that looks like this being a friendly amicable chap
Nothing is wrong with the way that character is drawn it's what he's saying that's bad, what was wrong with the dialogue in those dennis the menace strips?
>what specifically makes it blackface?
anon, just look at him. he's pitch black, has big ass eyes that no one else in dennis has, and his lips take up a third of his face.
If you like the art that's fine, Ketcham is a good artist, the same way Al Jolson was a great singer and you can like his performance, but it's still racist
Yes, but things that air on Apple TV+ are not because no one is watching.
To racists just acknowledging, let alone featuring a non-white character that s political agenda and propaganda shoved down their throat
literally yes. the entire reason franklin exists is because a teacher wrote a letter to Schulz after MLK died and suggested he add a black character.
What's Franklin's personality/gimmick?
He doesn't really have a personality outside of being a straightman to other characters, which is kind of Charlie Brown's role. And his gimmick is that he's black.
He likes to put quarters in his ass.
I absolutely love how these specials shit on all the character’s existing personalities for the sake of wholesomeness. That one sally baseball special had one of the most mischaracterized driven plots I’ve ever seen in a piece of media. Which sucks cause Sally is a very underrated and misinterpreted character even ignoring modern peanuts. People only know her from the specials when in the strips she feels like an entirely different (and better) character.
I get why they went with him, but it's a little weird just because he's a side character. But if it's good and don't pander too much into the "muh black lives matter" then I don't care, allows like some peanuts kino
Ernie Bushmiller stopped talking to Charles Schultz because Charles kept on talking about Jesus
Also Ernie was a hardcore republican
>Ernie was a hardcore republican
source? I know that Ernie was pretty private so I never really heard about his political/religious views. Love his work though
Also, I don't know why but the Guy Gilchrist strips piss me off so much, even when it actually tries to tell a joke. I can't explain it but it doesn't feel like Nancy at all
Like a strip like this feels so lame
Gilchrist's run of Nancy were just elaborate excuses to draw sexy Fritzi with outdated pop culture references. About as Nancy as a 9 Chickweed Lane
Gilchrist used Nancy to peddle boomer nostalgia (reality TV bad! 'member Good Times??) or sappy bible thumping. Also never passed up a chance to draw Fritzi in something skimpy. Think there was a rumour of him about being fired for sex pesting rather than retiring.
In any case, no sane Bushmiller or Olivia James fan has a nice thing to say about him.
I've read he was conservative as well, although I can't remember the source. I don't recall his views being characterized as particularly severe or extreme enough to be considered "hardcore" though.
Also in fairness, political alignments were a bit different back then. Christianity was less aligned specifically with the right (even the broad notion of "Christianity" had less steam back then- people were more keen on their specific denominations or the broad differences between Protestantism and Catholicism). It's a mistake to read too much into the politics of Schulz's religion, at least until the 1980s when things really start to shift.
This. I don't think younger than the oldest Gen Xers remembers the time before Christianity was specifically politicized as the "Moral Majority" and how televangelists basically pushed the Methodist/Pentecostal tent revival style that makes up the back-bone of what we'd consider the stereotypical "Fundamentalist Christian" sermon. I remember my grandparents being VERY opinionated about specific other denominations. They even taught us that Catholics weren't even Christians.
Sluggo is lit
>Ernie was a hardcore republican
>draws this
Hey Nancy. Wanna /ll/?
They made Lucy too nice and heckin wholesome in Apple TV Peanuts. I accept her being a bit nicer, but in here she doesn't really feel like Lucy.
>MGS is just saying "hey wake up bad government dumbass".
Which MGS?
Each one has different themes.
>spinoff cartoon is made starring a random background character
Genuinely curious not baiting here. But if Planet Sheen came out today, would you guys call it "politcal" too?
it has a monkey in it so probably
No. Not because it isn't (even though it isn't), but because Sheen is Latino and Cinemaphile rarely complains about Latino leads.
>but because Sheen is Latino and Cinemaphile rarely complains about Latino leads.
That's because Cinemaphile is filled with Latinos. Why do you think there's so many threads whining about black people being in media? I tested this by randomly calling someone a slur for Hispanic people and I got banned immediately.
I first noticed this in a thread here where someone insulted catholics over protestants and got like 30 seething replies
Alos only tangentially related but I find it hilarious how pro-sub/anti-dub Cinemaphile at large is but the same anons going on like that also cream themselves over the mexican simpsons dub
Same goes for the DBZ LatAm dub.
Of course, it's the spics.
Sheen is part of the main trio. Franklin is at the bottom of "most memorable Charlie Brown characters". They're not even remotely comparable.
>every american commercial be like
He's Mexican, so definitely.
if they made him darker so it was more obvious he was mexican, then yes it would be political
It's so funny this exists becuase of that weird controversy about his chair in the Thanksgiving special.
Shut up, moron.
This is also the one where the girls waste so much time deciding which river fork to take they run right into the rocks.
Isn't that the one where the girls frick everything up, kick the boys out of the cabin because they're girls and of course deserve everything handed to them, and frick everything up again in the ending? It had a hilariously anti-feminist message.
I think that was literally suppose to be the joke. Like if there was a movie where the boys try to act like women-hating he-men and chase the girls away, only to desperately need their help when they screw up.
Having black people does not instantly mean political, moron
Peanuts comics strips are probably older than you are
It does these days
unironically take a break from Cinemaphile and the internet at large
>Bioshock is just keeping a tradition you can break very easily, so the game didn't age well for it's "structure".
homie what? It's a game about a man who built a truly free society of the best and brightest which collapsed due to fundamentally incompatable ideas.
Is the new girl from Peanuts movie 2 also political?
No, unless did made her LGBT then yes.
There was a girl with cancer in the 90's show.
>2000s cd player thing
its over, the first movie looked like it was in the 60s
Could be 1960s hi-fi equipment.
Speaking of tech, it weirds me out that Peppermint Patty was learning computer programming already back in 1969.
it was a rising industry and the joke is probably that she's doing something way too advanced for her age.
i got to use one of those old pcs on my trip to italy and they're pretty hard to use without proper knowledge
Programming was considered a low pay industry and for women before it took off. It was so completely different, even my family that can't operate windows without help were considered middle level in the industry at that time.
Peanuts always had modern of it's time things in it. But because the Christmas special and Great Pumpkin are the most watched people think it's always stuck in one period.
I remember Sally being a Harry Potter fan.
Wasn't there a whole racist reasoning as to why Franklin was on the other side of the table in the original special? IIRC, they actually had to fight to include him in that scene at all. From what I'm aware, Schultz would probably be okay with this type of thing happening. Dunno about any of the other specials, this is the first I've heard of these.
Well I double checked, and I'm reading that it may not have been intentionally done for anything other than the gag about the chair, though it's true that Franklin had some controversy surrounding him when he was initially put in the comic. Didn't intend to give the wrong idea.
Never forget what they took from you. Even if you never see it again before you die, don't forget it.
no one gives a frick about this character Schulez certainly didn't
Reminder when Peanuts first debuted it blew people's mind a comic strip straight up featured kids full of hate.
Franklin from GTA 5?!
Peanuts was always political, it's just that now it will represent globohomosexual hegemony instead of Schulz's personal politics
It looks bland and it seems dumb how all of the sudden Charlie and Franklin are butt buddies now. Then there's the moronic table scene. Really? The Thanksgiving scene twisted your panties that much?
I don’t really mind most of what was in the trailer, but I was always under the impression (perhaps mistakenly, due to the TV specials), that Charlie and Linus were more best friends. Then again, I think Linus is younger.
There was nothing political in the whole trailer. Next time, just say you hate black people instead of these cowardly euphemisms.
Schulz has been dead for a quarter of a century. Peanuts isn't "getting" anything present tense.
I know they DIDN'T make this special just to correct one panel in the comics. They probably have a whole series of character spotlight specials since Lucy and Marcie got their own. But I like to think that this was such a big meme, it travelled all the way to the writers room and they felt like they it was important to correct it or something.
>it travelled all the way to the writers room and they felt like they it was important to correct it or something.
That's what makes it so funny and pathetic at the same time.
I wouldn’t really call it pathetic. While the original intention might not have been negative, it’s clear that there’s been some interpretation of it being so. It’s basically a cute reference that’s trying to clean the slate.
But what i wanna know is if this non controversy was a recent thing or back then people noticed too.
Why would you have most of the chairs on one side of the table anyway?
the empty side is for the camera to view from.
And since Franklin is mostly just the straight man to the other character's antics, he gets to be our stand in sitting at the fourth wall watching this all unfold.
Snoopy set up the seats anyways so if anything he's the racist one
Snoopy was hoping to sit on the side of the table with one seat because he considers himself head honcho and then Franklin took it without asking.
Can Snoopy explain why the chair was broken before Franklin took a seat then?
>Made a nice thread for talking about a cartoon I like.
>Only to get trashed thanks to shit threads like this.
Every. single. FRICKING. time!
Poltards like yourselves should be banned from all boards because I seriously hate you frickers to pieces.
Why would anyone want to post this? Oh right, just to cry at nothing else except their own empty heads full of boogeymen to scream at.
that's Cinemaphile, baby!
I don't care; Misc was a mistake since day one and should've never be invented in the first place.
Cinemaphile was fun until that board got made and turned this site into a mess.
I couldn't agree more. Every /misc/tard should be fricking shipped to Mexico and beheaded, so that we HUMANS can browse this site in peace.
This b***h is seriously at the pool, feet in the water wearing a swimsuit like she's ready to swim, READING A BOOK! Someone is gonna splash water on her and ruin her pages. NuMarcie fricking sucks it's such a lame Flanderization of her character
LOTS of characters have been flanderized.
It's The Current Year, Charlie Brown
I'm just excited they're giving Franklin, the most boring Peanuts character his own special and it looks like it's gonna be fun.
It always had been, remember they were one of the first ones to depict black characters between white focused cartoons, and jsut like sesame street I wouldn't be surprised if they end up showing naked trannies in a couple of years jsut like dutch TV
bros it's so over
Releasing on White Guilt Month doesn't mean it's inherently going to be a white-guilt fest
>he believes this
If it was, you know someone working on it wouldn't shut the motherloving hell up about it
>he still believes this
Think about it: has anyone working on this even attempted the whole, "This is a [protected demographic] story, no ["oppressive" demographic] allowed!" thing? Maybe they're just getting smart, but you know the people who would do that just can't help themselves.
I think it'll be a Spiderverse situation; it's not being marketed divisively, and whatever "woke" messaging is in the final product won't be in the way enough for anyone to notice unless they've already primed themselves to, and I don't think those people even have an Apple TV. I know I don't...
Where are the politics?
There aren't any.
Just idiots trying to stir up something to be mad about when almost no-one gives a shit about new Peanuts specials.
"She's Got Great Pumpkins, Charlie Brown"
>the other kids couldn't spell Jocelyn so they just started calling her Big breasts Girl
Schulz was ahead of his time
Who is this Mafalda looking hoe.
Big breasts Jocelyn
They already were
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>waiting for the mail on MLK day