first one is kinda unique, but it devolves into breaking out of a prison and revolting
the second one I don't really remember, I need to go watch it
third one is about revenge but then devolves into breaking out of a prison and revolting
fourth one is about revenge but then devolves into breaking out of a prison and revolting
I don’t watch the latest marvel slop and I’ll say that bringing in intelligent humans with guns to fight for dominance with apes is needlessly regressive and not a good direction to take the franchise, especially since they seem to want at least 5 more movies
It’s the foundation but we’ve already had three movies about it, I wouldn’t mind a new trilogy about apes and humans struggling to coexist without the humans being the exact same guys we’ve been dealing with for the past three movies.
>She was literally saving humanity
*trying to save
The humans never leave the bunkers and apes inherit the earth. All she did was worsen human ape relations. Her actions made humanity look like deceitful maniacs. Mae is literally the reason humans never achieve peaceful coexistence with apes.
>The humans never leave the bunkers and apes inherit the earth.
Obviously the hard drive Mae recovered will allow humans back on the surface.
It’s the foundation but we’ve already had three movies about it, I wouldn’t mind a new trilogy about apes and humans struggling to coexist without the humans being the exact same guys we’ve been dealing with for the past three movies.
>le magical hard drive
Did they seriously lack the ability to turn some fricking satellite dishes? And how is this going to help the dumb humans to speak?
>Obviously the hard drive Mae recovered will allow humans back on the surface.
>OMG! We can talk to some guys in France! >That's great, now our bunker of 20 inbred people can meet up with theirs? >Yeah we just have to make it through thousands of miles of hostile territory >There are dozens of us, the Apes don't stand a chance
I dunno how regaining communications with other normal humans will address the monkey pox issue but we can be assured that getting the hard drive will lead to this, as it _has_ to happen for the humans to directly confront the apes.
As for the feral humans, they're too far gone and thus irrelevant (though maybe the normal humans will enslave them?).
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Jesus fricking christ that waist to hip ratio is insane
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Jesus fricking christ that waist to hip ratio is insane
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Jesus fricking christ that waist to hip ratio is insane
You know how a Boomer shows you a picture of granny back in the day and talks about how beautiful she was but her young version looks generic as hell? This doesn't apply to Linda Harrison. She was legit hotter than most chicks today.
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She was a q.t. I'll bet Charlton Heston tapped dat ass.
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Look at how much hair Heston has on his chest. Is there an ass he couldn’t tap?
those satellites are encrypted. The humans just wanted to re-establish communications because they've been isolated for so long; maybe this is the first step towards a cure. Mae just said that it's a special book because that's the extent that Noa can understand.
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[...] >The humans just wanted to re-establish communications because they've been isolated for so long; maybe this is the first step towards a cure
I'm guessing Mae's bunker has been working on a cure for monkey pox but have been stymied for some reason and by reestablishing global satellite communications, the scattered normal humans living on bunkers around the world can now exchange data and between them, they'll come up with a cure, allowing normal humans to begin the Reconquest Of The Planet Of The Apes.
Its the Internet bros
90% of our internet flows throw Camp Roberts
Im guessing that bunker was the goverment bunker and they were the first to get reinfected.
>Obviously the hard drive Mae recovered will allow humans back on the surface.
>OMG! We can talk to some guys in France! >That's great, now our bunker of 20 inbred people can meet up with theirs? >Yeah we just have to make it through thousands of miles of hostile territory >There are dozens of us, the Apes don't stand a chance
I thought the information inside the drive was the protocols for the other channels (possibly military channels that are encrypted)
those satellites are encrypted. The humans just wanted to re-establish communications because they've been isolated for so long; maybe this is the first step towards a cure. Mae just said that it's a special book because that's the extent that Noa can understand.
>The humans just wanted to re-establish communications because they've been isolated for so long; maybe this is the first step towards a cure
I'm guessing Mae's bunker has been working on a cure for monkey pox but have been stymied for some reason and by reestablishing global satellite communications, the scattered normal humans living on bunkers around the world can now exchange data and between them, they'll come up with a cure, allowing normal humans to begin the Reconquest Of The Planet Of The Apes.
They’re not reconquesting anything after losing 90% of the population and having an additional 90%++ be reduced to animal status. . What I want to know is whether ape societies developed in other parts of the world
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According to War, "Bad Ape" is from another part of the world where apes developed separate from Caesar's clan. What I want to know is, do apes in other continents speak French or Chinese or Russian?
2 weeks ago
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I miss bad ape. He was legit funny
2 weeks ago
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I should watch War again. That's the only one I truly loved.
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>They’re not reconquesting anything
why the hell not?
its been 300 years and apes barely have agriculture down, they dont even know how to make bow and arrows. Meanwhile human have self sufficient bunkers with working machine shops. Theyre so far ahead of apes theyre about to restablish the internet.
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> its been 300 years and apes barely have agriculture down
They’re getting it down a hell of a lot faster than it took humans to get there and they vastly outnumber human beings. The overwhelming majority of humans have been reduced to prehistoric capabilities and they are going to stay there. There’s a very small number of humans that are still sapient but they are vastly outnumbered to the point that they’ll never be able to get their birth rates up to keep from going extinct. It’s like saying that mankind will reconquer the world during a zombie apocalypse. It won’t happen.
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and what do you think those bunker humans are doing? you saw extent of the beach facility. Theres no way theyre just jerkin off all day doing frick all, they have to be constantly expanding. They even have enough resources to service the huge ass satellite dishes. The only threat to them was Proximus getting a stash of tank, and they took care of that with a single girl.
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>They’re getting it down a hell of a lot faster than it took humans
they didnt do shit, everything they have was stolen, theyre literal Black folk
>All she did was worsen human ape relations. Her actions made humanity look like deceitful maniacs. Mae is literally the reason humans never achieve peaceful coexistence with apes.
And how would that change with Proximus in charge? Proximus was gonna kill all humans he came across anyways, he just needed one alive long enough to help him open the bunker.
Had any other ape been in charge, Mae would at least been a little less desperate. But Proximus was gonna use the contents of that bunker just to do what he did to Noa's clan, just on a larger and more efficient scale. Neither Mae nor Noa stood to gain from Proximus. And for all Mae did, Noa understood that. That's why he gave her the necklace with Caesar's emblem.
>And for all Mae did, Noa understood that. That's why he gave her the necklace with Caesar's emblem.
No he didn't. He straight up tells Mae that Proximus was right. He gives her the emblem because it meant something, but not to him. Raka's belief in Caesar's message is something Mae needs to learn, not Noa. He's pretty much done with humanity by the end of the film.
>No he didn't. He straight up tells Mae that Proximus was right.
He says Proximus was "right" about humans still not being able to let go of the time they were dominant, but that was it. He was not at all okay with someone like Proximus at the lead of Apekind. >He gives her the emblem because it meant something, but not to him. Raka's belief in Caesar's message is something Mae needs to learn, not Noa.
You literally just explained how Caesar's message is still important to him. In spite of his prejudices and all he's been through, he still asks if Apes and Humans could truly live as one, showing that the topic is still on his mind. And he gives her that necklace as a way of showing that she needs to think on Caesar's message just as he is. If he was done with humanity and Caesar's ways he would have told Mae to frick off right then and there. Instead he gave her something he still considered important, just as Raka did to him.
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>He says Proximus was "right" about humans still not being able to let go of the time they were dominant, but that was it
Cope. Tremendous cope. Noa saw first hand that humans couldn't be trusted. Proximus was right to hate himans and Noa understood that. >he still asks if Apes and Humans could truly live as one, showing that the topic is still on his mind
He was expressing doubt that it was possible, after everything Mae did his trust in humans is gone. Noa is a good ape. He wants to live and let live but he knows that Mae isn't capable of that. He asked her what would happen once humans were dominant again and Mae didn't answer. Silence like that is telling. Afterwards he gives her Ceasars medallion and tells her it's important. Because it's clear to him coexistence is not something Mae ever thought about. >Instead he gave her something he still considered important, just as Raka did to him.
He gave her the medallion because it was clear she needed to reminder more than him
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shut up stupid monkey
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>You literally just explained how Caesar's message is still important to him.
What the hell are you talking about? Caesar's message was never important to Noa. He didn't even know who Caesar was before all of this because the elders kept shit hidden. Not to mention that as far as he knew, all humans were morons. Even Raka, the guy who believed in Caesar's word, had some doubts about the capabilities of humans and if they were ever truly equal.
Noa was genuinely upset when Mae revealed she could talk and kept it a secret from him. He just spent all this time with Raka, hearing him gas up humans because of Caesar, and here is Mea, betraying his trust over and over again. He saw her kill the only other speaking human he knew without mercy. When he begs her not to blow up the damn, she does it anyways without hesitation and killing members of his clan. Their final conversation he questions her motives and she's aggressive as hell about taking back the world from Apes. He gives her the necklace to remind her of Raka's sacrifice and Raka's belief in Caesar's word. Noa doesn't give a shit. The only smart human he ever met is a b***h that lies and kills to get her way no matter who suffers and she's going to keep doing it.
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>Noa was genuinely upset when Mae revealed she could talk and kept it a secret from him
Was he? Considering she was being hunted down specifically for her ability to talk, it's pretty reasonable that she'd hide that fact until she could trust whatever ape she's hanging out with.
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>it's pretty reasonable that she'd hide that fact until she could trust whatever ape she's hanging out with.
Mae should have gone under cover and dressed up in a rag bikini to blend in with the feral humans because as soon as we saw her in pants and a t-shirt, it was obvious she was a normal human who could talk.
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those pants were distracting in certain shots
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Noa wasnt reasonable, his racism toward humans wasnt because humans actually did anything to him. He just saw them as disgusting.
They didn’t look like they took baths either. I think it’s kinda like how it’s confirmed in Star Trek that Vulcans and the Voth both think humans stink badly or how humans think Klingons stink.
My first thought was why isn't she naked, but then it became clear she wasn't feral.
I think animalistic humans wearing loincloths and bathing suits made of hide is stupid. I want the next Apes movie to have humans running around naked.
>Literally the central theme is the open ended question of racial holy war.
Is it though? Noa seemed a little slighted at Mae destroying the bunker but he still seemed open to cooperation.
an interesting question is ape religion but modern mass media is way to anal about secularism to explore it. i’d love to see new mythology arise to explain the world around them and hear history get turned into legend, or apes being influenced by human religion like christianity and having their own weird versions of it. you get vague tribal spirituality in this movie but a new and dominant monkey faith spreading along with the new empires would be cool
Kind of. But seeing as only one monkey actually still gave a shit about Caesars legacy shows that they probably didn't care all that much. If it was Jesus then I would imagine he'd have been more important in every apes life. And after 300 years from War to Kingdom they kind of just forgot.
>But seeing as only one monkey actually still gave a shit about Caesars legacy
Raka implied there were more like him. And Proximus is literally named after caesar and is pushing a caesar religion onto his followers...
Are you seriously doing this
If that was his lover he'd be more broken up about it, instead it was just "Oh well, my friend is dead, but there's more important stuff to do"
>You literally just explained how Caesar's message is still important to him.
What the hell are you talking about? Caesar's message was never important to Noa. He didn't even know who Caesar was before all of this because the elders kept shit hidden. Not to mention that as far as he knew, all humans were morons. Even Raka, the guy who believed in Caesar's word, had some doubts about the capabilities of humans and if they were ever truly equal.
Noa was genuinely upset when Mae revealed she could talk and kept it a secret from him. He just spent all this time with Raka, hearing him gas up humans because of Caesar, and here is Mea, betraying his trust over and over again. He saw her kill the only other speaking human he knew without mercy. When he begs her not to blow up the damn, she does it anyways without hesitation and killing members of his clan. Their final conversation he questions her motives and she's aggressive as hell about taking back the world from Apes. He gives her the necklace to remind her of Raka's sacrifice and Raka's belief in Caesar's word. Noa doesn't give a shit. The only smart human he ever met is a b***h that lies and kills to get her way no matter who suffers and she's going to keep doing it.
>lies and kills to get her way no matter who suffers and she's going to keep doing it.
She's doing it for her own race so it's based. It's actually baffling that some people see her as a villain. Proximus was going to annihilate humans, what else was she supposed to do? Despite what he was saying, he definitely wouldn't let her go and the other apes were helping her with preparing the explosives.
Watching these movies and rooting for humans is moronic. Humans should stop being the focus until they make a remake of the original. They should focus more on apes. I want to see apes thrive and success.
I actually have the opposite problem. We are supposed to care for muh apes while it's obvious that the interest of our own race should be our primary concern. This series should conclude with humans becoming intelligent again and either wiping out apes or enslaving them (hard supremacy way) or driving them away from their lands and living separately but as dominant species (soft separatism way).
>This series should conclude with humans becoming intelligent again and either wiping out apes or enslaving them (hard supremacy way) or driving them away from their lands and living separately but as dominant species (soft separatism way).
The new movies are going to copy the olds ones, with humans and apes eventually living happily ever after in peace and harmony.
homosexuals ITT are trying to gaslight you (because literally all they do is lie). They hint the orangutan is gay but he's Based so its forgiven. The white woman takes over the second half of the movie and becomes a fake ass Lara Croft who saves humanity with her camp of nearly all female humans. Clearly she's only there because woke producers forced rewrites.
>Here's our script for Apes 4 >Where's the female representation? >Its a movie about apes? >Rewrite it with female representation now. Also make her a badass. Also make her talk. Also make her smart. Also she cant dress like a primitive. >None of this fits with the setting but ok
>They hint the orangutan is gay
He says he had a whole bunch of people with him when he started, and him and the other guy who died were the only people left when Noa arrived.
>and becomes a fake ass Lara Croft who saves humanity with her camp of nearly all female humans.
She didn't really feel like Lara Croft to me. She only managed to accomplish her goal because the apes did most of the work. The only thing she did on her own was kill an old man.
Calling it Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes and shoving Proximus on all the marketing was fricking gay because both these aspects are barely in the film. The movie should have been about Proximus rising to the throne and going on ape conquests across the planet like a Ape Genghis Khan.
I was a little disappointed they killed off Proximus at the end considering how much build up there was to him amd how late into the film he shows up. I figure they would've had him survive to the next movie.
I felt like it was a better version of the "Biblical Flood" scene
>Mae betrays them and kills dozens of apes, which becomes a pivotal moment in Ape vs Human conflict >Noa steps up to become a leader ("Eagle clan! Climb!!") >Noa kills the gorilla by using his wits >Noa and his clan uses their unique skill to defeat Proximus instead of relying on strength
it's much better than Reeves' version >oh no the human Caesar spared shot him and now the evil gorilla saved him, what a subversion
There's just more agency and dramatic moments in Kingdom's finale
Calling it Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes and shoving Proximus on all the marketing was fricking gay because both these aspects are barely in the film. The movie should have been about Proximus rising to the throne and going on ape conquests across the planet like a Ape Genghis Khan.
A movie like that would be kino but you can't make a movie about colonialisn. Hell, it's 2024 and we are not even allowed to show feral humans full naked as
It IS repetitive. There's too much focus on humans. I don't care about humans. Humans are supposed to be feral animals who are naked and act like how chimps do in real life. Read the fricking book. Stop making humans the main focus of the movie unless it's an actual remake of the original movie.
Certified ApeKino idea. I hate the fact the marketing talked up how Proximus perverted Ceaser's teachings but the movie barely brings that up. It's like there was supposed to be a different film until Disney forced rewrites like
homosexuals ITT are trying to gaslight you (because literally all they do is lie). They hint the orangutan is gay but he's Based so its forgiven. The white woman takes over the second half of the movie and becomes a fake ass Lara Croft who saves humanity with her camp of nearly all female humans. Clearly she's only there because woke producers forced rewrites.
>Here's our script for Apes 4 >Where's the female representation? >Its a movie about apes? >Rewrite it with female representation now. Also make her a badass. Also make her talk. Also make her smart. Also she cant dress like a primitive. >None of this fits with the setting but ok
title having nothing to do with the movie is on par for this series, Dawn was a typical injun war movie, War was a revenge western with a prison escape shoved into it
It IS repetitive. There's too much focus on humans. I don't care about humans. Humans are supposed to be feral animals who are naked and act like how chimps do in real life. Read the fricking book. Stop making humans the main focus of the movie unless it's an actual remake of the original movie.
Read this a while back,it's a good book. The original 1968 movie was a decent adaptation even if it changed a lot of things around. I've heard Boulle wrote a screenplay for a sequel to the movie that never got used. Someone should try making a film of that sometime
This guy literally did nothing wrong. He didn’t kill most of the tribes he conquered and they lived well. Got along with humans and was willing to cooperate with them. Realised technology and rebuilding society was the future. Reasonable and smart. Fought his own battles and died to bullshit eagle magic.
>Got along with humans and was willing to cooperate with them.
He wasn't, he told Noa from the get-go he didn't trust them. He just needed that crippled guy to tell him history and Mae to open the bunker. After that, it would be open season.
How are they going to reconcile the Aldo stuff and the alternative explanation of how humans started owning chimps instead of pets? Weren't the last two movies in the original series just stories being told by an unreliable narrator. They seem to almost all but forgotten who Caesar was in this movie. So I guess it is possible
The next movie needs to go back to being more like Dawn. More daily life with the monke, monke on monke drama. Stop being so fricking slow. Needs more orangutan and gorilla characters.
They should have incorporated other intelligent apes/monkeys, like baboons as warriors (they're far more dangerous then gorillas) and gibbons as builders, etc.
I want them to explore the idea that the apes are inherently genetic freaks. They were the product of a lab experiment. Their speech is halting, their gait is awkward, and despite being free for hundreds of years, they still live in mud huts. This is because they were forced to evolve by the virus; it's all unnatural.
The Colonel in War had one line that I wish they expanded more >The irony is, we created you.
I want to see apes come to terms with the fact that humans were their fallen creators.
I felt like it was moronic to have them still half moronic hundreds of years after the first movie. Like they at some point have to be able to speak fluently. Movie should have followed that trajectory
To be fair most apes can speak now, they have traditions and laws like only taking as many eggs as required. But at some point they lost the ability to read because Maurice probably fricked up. The clans are also isolated from each other. This movie could use a prequel.
>Their speech is halting, their gait is awkward, and despite being free for hundreds of years
It took humans _thousands_ of years to get their act together.
"For most of their history, humans were nomadic hunter-gatherers. Humans began exhibiting behavioral modernity about 160,000–60,000 years ago. The Neolithic Revolution, which began in Southwest Asia around 13,000 years ago (and separately in a few other places), saw the emergence of agriculture and permanent human settlement; in turn, this led to the development of civilization and kickstarted a period of continuous (and ongoing) population growth and rapid technological change."
> Their speech is halting, their gait is awkward, and despite being free for hundreds of years, they still live in mud huts.
It took humanity hundreds of thousands of years to get to living in mud huts.
Why is it that people think 300 years is a long time? The fact that they’re living in mud huts at this point, 300 years after becoming sapient, is freaking remarkably fast.
Where's the 1968 one in your image? Also I think the bottom ones are made by cutting the tv series into films for tv.
The originals are great though. Definitely watch them if you get the chance.
Not so sure why it was so important to stop Proximus from getting weapons. Surely these weapons, without proper maintenance and ammunition resupply would have become useless in a matter of months
How is there so many apes in dawn? In rise there's like 150 max that escape in to the forest then in dawn theres probably 1000. Where'd they all come from and how'd they all get intelligent?
The monkey pox spread around the world and apes in zoos all over the world escaped and set up their own communities while humans died off from the plague.
>a tenous peace is presented between Apes and Man >Human and/or Ape is ignorant and bigoted >CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?!?!? >No! >Fighting >CAN'T YOU SEE BY BEHAVING JUST LIKE A HUMAN/APE YOU NO BETTER THAN A HUMAN/APE >a tenuous peace is established
In case you haven’t noticed, they stopped showing up for those a few years back. Even the shows that they don’t even have to leave the house for have bombed. It isn’t 2019 anymore.
I don't watch anything with muh empowered wimminz in a leading role. The previous three told and finished a complete story arc. At this point they're just flogging it for money and wokeism points.
Camgrabs are available but they're pretty washed out. Still, if you want to get in on the discussion you can watch that, then download a proper version when it drops.
Movie sucked, Proximus was barely in it
Macy was wasted, how the frick do you have 2 history obsessed apes and not have a scene with both of them, awful awful movie in 2nd half
1st half worldbuilding rules though
5/10, very dissapointed in the marketing LIES
It's not repetitive. I'm not into CG slop but I have to admit these have good ideas behind them. >animal testing sci fi drama >apocalypse movie >snow apocalypse movie >the 1968 movie again but better
Good flix
When I see this, I just know it is a israelite's fantasy of a Black fantasy about ruling the world after White people are pushed from power. >apes in charge
Return to tribal nonsense and no technology.
It is reverse-wakanda, nothing more.
>franchise >repetitive
That is literally every franchise ever. I'm pretty sure that the two words are now synonymous. It's why I rarely if ever bother watching a sequel. Perhaps it is the Franchise Model itself that is the problem.
Guys I am not even kidding you
I had a dream a few years back that they made a new planet of the apes movie and it was the most generic barebones shit imaginable and then this movie comes out
Am I a psychic ? Am I a prophet of God?
>Monkey good. Humanity bad
Except the villain in Dawn is Koba and the one enslaving Apes in Kingdom is another Ape. Caesar said his biggest mistake was thinking Apes were better than humans instead of seeing how like us they really are
The first two movies were great. The third movie was a pretty by-the-numbers adventure movie but Andy Serkis' Caesar carried it. This one completes the franchise's transformation into standard popcorn films and without Serkis' performance it's just not as compelling as 3 was. It's not bad, I enjoyed it, it's just the same as everything else at this point. Also the CGI during movement scenes was noticeably worse, which was disappointing.
Also, Proximus getting Animal Swarm cast on him during the climactic confrontation was goofy as hell. Like I get that they were trying to convey that Noah was establishing himself as the leader of Eagle Clan by befriending the eagles like his father did but that was just silly.
When I went to see Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, there was a kid in my row and when the trailer for this movie came on the kid was like "OOOH ANOTHER KONG MOVIE!" I'm not trying to make a profound point or anything but I think it's funny that two "ape kingdom" movies are coming out within a few months of each other.
>think it's funny that two "ape kingdom" movies are coming out within a few months of each other.
PC was just s small scar king. Evne had apes move rocks for no reason and pull chains.
I think Proximus was having those apes build a dam. The entrance to the bunker could have been partially under water. It would exp,ain as to why it was flooded by blowing up what was essentially a dam. He had them pull the chains in an attempt to pull the doors open. Frankly, cutting through the doors or surveying the area to find another way inside would have been a smarter thing to do.
Why did Jacob hate apes so fricking much? Did he had internalized self-hate and asociated apes with racism? It was kinda odd the only black guy in the whole franchise apparently had a hate bone for apes.
Yeah, not counting the apes. I thought I recognized the orangutan's voice, but I looked him up and haven't seen anything he's been in. I didn't notice any of the feral humans being black, but it was only that one scene. I kind of wish we'd see more of them.
>They’re getting it down a hell of a lot faster than it took humans
they didnt do shit, everything they have was stolen, theyre literal Black folk
So the literal village of apes that raise falcons and made their own building and stuff had stolen that? Explain that to me.
and what do you think those bunker humans are doing? you saw extent of the beach facility. Theres no way theyre just jerkin off all day doing frick all, they have to be constantly expanding. They even have enough resources to service the huge ass satellite dishes. The only threat to them was Proximus getting a stash of tank, and they took care of that with a single girl.
> and what do you think those bunker humans are doing?
It doesn’t matter what they’re doing. The human race is doomed either way. They’re trying to contact other groups but there aren’t enough humans in existence to really do shit.
> Theres no way theyre just jerkin off all day doing frick all, they have to be constantly expanding
Hahaha expansion. Right. Humans were more widespread in the second movie than in this one. They haven’t even made any progress since this groups goal was basically the same as the group from the second film. Their goal was to contact other groups. I’m afraid I need to see more than a blown out bunker from fallout and satellite dishes covered with vines to convince me that they are expanding rather than desperately trying to avoid the inevitable.
There’s like, what, a few dozen humans in that bunker. Tops. Proximus had hundreds of apes and that’s not even representative of how many other ape tribes there were in the world.
yeah how are humans supposed to expand? the bunker people were wearing hazmat suits so they cant just go conquering shit, what theyre going into battle wearing the suits? theyre basically fricked
>The human race is doomed either way.
its been 300 years and the bunker chans havent died out. Your train of thoughts dont make sense, you are clearly operating on emotion
What’s that supposed to mean? They are going to die out eventually. You’re talking about 300 years but that’s not really very much time, my guy. The native Americans are still around after a near extinction event too. Did they take north America back?
> you are clearly operating on emotion
Hahaha have you watched the films? The last remnants of humanity are mostly wild animals and the ones that aren’t are hiding away in isolated bunkers trying to eek away a living while making no progress. Humanity is done. That’s not my emotions speaking. I have no reason to be emotionally invested in a fictional movie. I’m just giving an honest assessment of what’s shown in the movie. The movies demonstrate that humanity is fricked in every way imaginable. I’d say the same thing if it were a zombie apocalypse and you were talking about how humans would reclaim the watch with a few small pockets of small groups living in bunkers and shit.
yeah how are humans supposed to expand? the bunker people were wearing hazmat suits so they cant just go conquering shit, what theyre going into battle wearing the suits? theyre basically fricked
Yup, 100%. Humanity in the films is basically already dead. It’s just taking its last striggled gasps. It took Neanderthals 40,000 years to go extinct, sapient humanity is going out way faster than that.
>die out eventually
2 more weeks >The last remnants of humanity
watch the movie next time, the reveal is that theres a shit ton of normal humans and the girl isnt what she said she was.
>shit ton of normal humans
homie there was like 10 dudes in that bunker
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There was a small group of humans in that bunker. Like a few dozen at most. I’d be surprised if they even had 50 people there. You’re acting like they had a hidden city will millions of folk
that ending bunker looked like it had a big outside structure, theres has to been a sustainable population in there to last 300 years. We hear american voices in the comms, so in the U.S. alone there has to be several colonies left, let alone the world. Ceasar's influence would of only been limited to the west coast, doubtful the other zoos had a chimp that was educated as a child like ceasar was. Those other groups would be like uncontacted tribes, without a human language.
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in the U.S. alone there has to be several colonies left, let alone the world
Not in numbers enough to actually conquer anything. And after 300 years the population in that bunker is most likely dwindling. If they had large numbers then they would have been able to send a larger force to secure the tapes rather than a small handful of people that were easily gutted with a single survivor to complete the mission.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
and how do you expect them to conquer anything considering the apes carry the virus? they will go moronic the minute they try to go outside the bunker.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
in the U.S. alone there has to be several colonies left, let alone the world
Not in numbers enough to actually conquer anything. And after 300 years the population in that bunker is most likely dwindling. If they had large numbers then they would have been able to send a larger force to secure the tapes rather than a small handful of people that were easily gutted with a single survivor to complete the mission.
idk just shoot em
proxmas got got and most of his kingdom scattered, there really isnt anything to do ape hitler got killed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think the virus would have to be dead by now. If they really want this to be linked to the original it makes sense. Taylor isn't effected by a virus after being around Apes for weeks and even Nova is able to speak in the second film
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i hope they go this angle, bunker humans just keep protocal just in case another mutation hits them
There was a small group of humans in that bunker. Like a few dozen at most. I’d be surprised if they even had 50 people there. You’re acting like they had a hidden city will millions of folk
It was solid for what it was but it would've been better if they had balls to just have humans be completely like apes and maybe make the conflict have no humans in it at all besides them being like animals we never really got that perspective.
With each installment they're getting worse. I don't know about other anons but I found this movie to be pretty terrible. Seems most people liked it, kind of surprised tbh.
WHO THE FRICK WATCHES ANY O THIS SHIT?
AVATAR SUCKED MARVEL SUCKS RINGS OF POWER IS moronic PLANET OF THE APES SHOULD HAVE NEVER MADE IT PAST THE DRAWING BOARD
no caesar no watch
OP, the guy in the pic IS Caesar.
non
the og andy serkis caesar died
No! That is NOT Caesar!
shut the frick up Proximus
Frick off Proximus
He's our Caesar, not ape's Caesar
who gives a frick? stop listening to what other people have to say about shit you like.
It hasn’t become to repetitive yet, but it’s in danger of doing so.
first one is kinda unique, but it devolves into breaking out of a prison and revolting
the second one I don't really remember, I need to go watch it
third one is about revenge but then devolves into breaking out of a prison and revolting
fourth one is about revenge but then devolves into breaking out of a prison and revolting
>Hasnt became repetitive yet
wtf are you talking about?
even war ripped off the first movie by being some prison escape shit
it is star wars slop
I don’t watch the latest marvel slop and I’ll say that bringing in intelligent humans with guns to fight for dominance with apes is needlessly regressive and not a good direction to take the franchise, especially since they seem to want at least 5 more movies
>bringing in intelligent humans with guns to fight for dominance with apes is needlessly regressive
That's the foundation of the story, without it you've got nothing but apes slowly reinventing the wheel.
It’s the foundation but we’ve already had three movies about it, I wouldn’t mind a new trilogy about apes and humans struggling to coexist without the humans being the exact same guys we’ve been dealing with for the past three movies.
L
Proximus dindu nothing wrong btw
People want to see statue of Liberty go boom, studios are full of boomers who refuse to show that
I wonder what Rakka would think of Mae if he had lived long enough to watch her ruthlessly murder dozens of apes. Would he regret saving her?
>ruthlessly murder dozens of apes.
She was literally saving humanity. If you're going to make an omelette, you have to break some eggs.
>She was literally saving humanity
*trying to save
The humans never leave the bunkers and apes inherit the earth. All she did was worsen human ape relations. Her actions made humanity look like deceitful maniacs. Mae is literally the reason humans never achieve peaceful coexistence with apes.
>The humans never leave the bunkers and apes inherit the earth.
Obviously the hard drive Mae recovered will allow humans back on the surface.
>struggling to coexist
Means conflict between apes and humans.
>le magical hard drive
Did they seriously lack the ability to turn some fricking satellite dishes? And how is this going to help the dumb humans to speak?
I dunno how regaining communications with other normal humans will address the monkey pox issue but we can be assured that getting the hard drive will lead to this, as it _has_ to happen for the humans to directly confront the apes.
As for the feral humans, they're too far gone and thus irrelevant (though maybe the normal humans will enslave them?).
Jesus fricking christ that waist to hip ratio is insane
You know how a Boomer shows you a picture of granny back in the day and talks about how beautiful she was but her young version looks generic as hell? This doesn't apply to Linda Harrison. She was legit hotter than most chicks today.
She was a q.t. I'll bet Charlton Heston tapped dat ass.
Look at how much hair Heston has on his chest. Is there an ass he couldn’t tap?
I thought the information inside the drive was the protocols for the other channels (possibly military channels that are encrypted)
those satellites are encrypted. The humans just wanted to re-establish communications because they've been isolated for so long; maybe this is the first step towards a cure. Mae just said that it's a special book because that's the extent that Noa can understand.
Its the Internet bros
90% of our internet flows throw Camp Roberts
Im guessing that bunker was the goverment bunker and they were the first to get reinfected.
>Obviously the hard drive Mae recovered will allow humans back on the surface.
>OMG! We can talk to some guys in France!
>That's great, now our bunker of 20 inbred people can meet up with theirs?
>Yeah we just have to make it through thousands of miles of hostile territory
>There are dozens of us, the Apes don't stand a chance
>The humans just wanted to re-establish communications because they've been isolated for so long; maybe this is the first step towards a cure
I'm guessing Mae's bunker has been working on a cure for monkey pox but have been stymied for some reason and by reestablishing global satellite communications, the scattered normal humans living on bunkers around the world can now exchange data and between them, they'll come up with a cure, allowing normal humans to begin the Reconquest Of The Planet Of The Apes.
They’re not reconquesting anything after losing 90% of the population and having an additional 90%++ be reduced to animal status. . What I want to know is whether ape societies developed in other parts of the world
According to War, "Bad Ape" is from another part of the world where apes developed separate from Caesar's clan. What I want to know is, do apes in other continents speak French or Chinese or Russian?
I miss bad ape. He was legit funny
I should watch War again. That's the only one I truly loved.
>They’re not reconquesting anything
why the hell not?
its been 300 years and apes barely have agriculture down, they dont even know how to make bow and arrows. Meanwhile human have self sufficient bunkers with working machine shops. Theyre so far ahead of apes theyre about to restablish the internet.
> its been 300 years and apes barely have agriculture down
They’re getting it down a hell of a lot faster than it took humans to get there and they vastly outnumber human beings. The overwhelming majority of humans have been reduced to prehistoric capabilities and they are going to stay there. There’s a very small number of humans that are still sapient but they are vastly outnumbered to the point that they’ll never be able to get their birth rates up to keep from going extinct. It’s like saying that mankind will reconquer the world during a zombie apocalypse. It won’t happen.
and what do you think those bunker humans are doing? you saw extent of the beach facility. Theres no way theyre just jerkin off all day doing frick all, they have to be constantly expanding. They even have enough resources to service the huge ass satellite dishes. The only threat to them was Proximus getting a stash of tank, and they took care of that with a single girl.
>They’re getting it down a hell of a lot faster than it took humans
they didnt do shit, everything they have was stolen, theyre literal Black folk
>All she did was worsen human ape relations. Her actions made humanity look like deceitful maniacs. Mae is literally the reason humans never achieve peaceful coexistence with apes.
And how would that change with Proximus in charge? Proximus was gonna kill all humans he came across anyways, he just needed one alive long enough to help him open the bunker.
Had any other ape been in charge, Mae would at least been a little less desperate. But Proximus was gonna use the contents of that bunker just to do what he did to Noa's clan, just on a larger and more efficient scale. Neither Mae nor Noa stood to gain from Proximus. And for all Mae did, Noa understood that. That's why he gave her the necklace with Caesar's emblem.
>And for all Mae did, Noa understood that. That's why he gave her the necklace with Caesar's emblem.
No he didn't. He straight up tells Mae that Proximus was right. He gives her the emblem because it meant something, but not to him. Raka's belief in Caesar's message is something Mae needs to learn, not Noa. He's pretty much done with humanity by the end of the film.
>No he didn't. He straight up tells Mae that Proximus was right.
He says Proximus was "right" about humans still not being able to let go of the time they were dominant, but that was it. He was not at all okay with someone like Proximus at the lead of Apekind.
>He gives her the emblem because it meant something, but not to him. Raka's belief in Caesar's message is something Mae needs to learn, not Noa.
You literally just explained how Caesar's message is still important to him. In spite of his prejudices and all he's been through, he still asks if Apes and Humans could truly live as one, showing that the topic is still on his mind. And he gives her that necklace as a way of showing that she needs to think on Caesar's message just as he is. If he was done with humanity and Caesar's ways he would have told Mae to frick off right then and there. Instead he gave her something he still considered important, just as Raka did to him.
>He says Proximus was "right" about humans still not being able to let go of the time they were dominant, but that was it
Cope. Tremendous cope. Noa saw first hand that humans couldn't be trusted. Proximus was right to hate himans and Noa understood that.
>he still asks if Apes and Humans could truly live as one, showing that the topic is still on his mind
He was expressing doubt that it was possible, after everything Mae did his trust in humans is gone. Noa is a good ape. He wants to live and let live but he knows that Mae isn't capable of that. He asked her what would happen once humans were dominant again and Mae didn't answer. Silence like that is telling. Afterwards he gives her Ceasars medallion and tells her it's important. Because it's clear to him coexistence is not something Mae ever thought about.
>Instead he gave her something he still considered important, just as Raka did to him.
He gave her the medallion because it was clear she needed to reminder more than him
shut up stupid monkey
>You literally just explained how Caesar's message is still important to him.
What the hell are you talking about? Caesar's message was never important to Noa. He didn't even know who Caesar was before all of this because the elders kept shit hidden. Not to mention that as far as he knew, all humans were morons. Even Raka, the guy who believed in Caesar's word, had some doubts about the capabilities of humans and if they were ever truly equal.
Noa was genuinely upset when Mae revealed she could talk and kept it a secret from him. He just spent all this time with Raka, hearing him gas up humans because of Caesar, and here is Mea, betraying his trust over and over again. He saw her kill the only other speaking human he knew without mercy. When he begs her not to blow up the damn, she does it anyways without hesitation and killing members of his clan. Their final conversation he questions her motives and she's aggressive as hell about taking back the world from Apes. He gives her the necklace to remind her of Raka's sacrifice and Raka's belief in Caesar's word. Noa doesn't give a shit. The only smart human he ever met is a b***h that lies and kills to get her way no matter who suffers and she's going to keep doing it.
>Noa was genuinely upset when Mae revealed she could talk and kept it a secret from him
Was he? Considering she was being hunted down specifically for her ability to talk, it's pretty reasonable that she'd hide that fact until she could trust whatever ape she's hanging out with.
>it's pretty reasonable that she'd hide that fact until she could trust whatever ape she's hanging out with.
Mae should have gone under cover and dressed up in a rag bikini to blend in with the feral humans because as soon as we saw her in pants and a t-shirt, it was obvious she was a normal human who could talk.
those pants were distracting in certain shots
Noa wasnt reasonable, his racism toward humans wasnt because humans actually did anything to him. He just saw them as disgusting.
reminder that she canonically stinks, even Apes can't stand her smell
I think humans in general probably stink to them.
Also, she didn't exactly have an opportunity to wash herself.
They didn’t look like they took baths either. I think it’s kinda like how it’s confirmed in Star Trek that Vulcans and the Voth both think humans stink badly or how humans think Klingons stink.
My first thought was why isn't she naked, but then it became clear she wasn't feral.
I think animalistic humans wearing loincloths and bathing suits made of hide is stupid. I want the next Apes movie to have humans running around naked.
people gave up on marvel and star wars 5 years ago
>Oil-Exporting Country of the Planet of the Apes
how woke is it? that is the only question.
Have you tried to stop listening to grifters?
he seems to be anti wokeness though
have you?
are you a grifter?
it's the exact opposite of woke, the movie's message is "you can't trust others outside of your own race". I'm not kidding.
It's the most genuine and non-woke movie in a while
Literally the central theme is the open ended question of racial holy war.
its based
>Literally the central theme is the open ended question of racial holy war.
Is it though? Noa seemed a little slighted at Mae destroying the bunker but he still seemed open to cooperation.
an interesting question is ape religion but modern mass media is way to anal about secularism to explore it. i’d love to see new mythology arise to explain the world around them and hear history get turned into legend, or apes being influenced by human religion like christianity and having their own weird versions of it. you get vague tribal spirituality in this movie but a new and dominant monkey faith spreading along with the new empires would be cool
wasn't caesar just a version of jesus in this? it felt like protestants vs christians.
They might be going into an angle like that
Kind of. But seeing as only one monkey actually still gave a shit about Caesars legacy shows that they probably didn't care all that much. If it was Jesus then I would imagine he'd have been more important in every apes life. And after 300 years from War to Kingdom they kind of just forgot.
>But seeing as only one monkey actually still gave a shit about Caesars legacy
Raka implied there were more like him. And Proximus is literally named after caesar and is pushing a caesar religion onto his followers...
He was like Moses, he even died right before venturing into the promess land just likd him.
>apes being influenced by human religion
Noa's people are kinda animists/nature worshipers but Proximus should have been shilling a militaristic distortion of Caesar's teachings.
They subtly hint that the orangutan is gay. Really weird but I guess it's mandatory, no matter how discreet.
Are you seriously doing this
If that was his lover he'd be more broken up about it, instead it was just "Oh well, my friend is dead, but there's more important stuff to do"
moron. instead of lying go rim your boyfriend
>They subtly hint that the orangutan is gay
How?
>lies and kills to get her way no matter who suffers and she's going to keep doing it.
She's doing it for her own race so it's based. It's actually baffling that some people see her as a villain. Proximus was going to annihilate humans, what else was she supposed to do? Despite what he was saying, he definitely wouldn't let her go and the other apes were helping her with preparing the explosives.
Watching these movies and rooting for humans is moronic. Humans should stop being the focus until they make a remake of the original. They should focus more on apes. I want to see apes thrive and success.
I actually have the opposite problem. We are supposed to care for muh apes while it's obvious that the interest of our own race should be our primary concern. This series should conclude with humans becoming intelligent again and either wiping out apes or enslaving them (hard supremacy way) or driving them away from their lands and living separately but as dominant species (soft separatism way).
>This series should conclude with humans becoming intelligent again and either wiping out apes or enslaving them (hard supremacy way) or driving them away from their lands and living separately but as dominant species (soft separatism way).
The new movies are going to copy the olds ones, with humans and apes eventually living happily ever after in peace and harmony.
They do not. He's a part of a monastic order and his only surviving brother died.
i like how none of the replies even tried to convince me you’re wrong
least woke movie I've seen since obama years
homosexuals ITT are trying to gaslight you (because literally all they do is lie). They hint the orangutan is gay but he's Based so its forgiven. The white woman takes over the second half of the movie and becomes a fake ass Lara Croft who saves humanity with her camp of nearly all female humans. Clearly she's only there because woke producers forced rewrites.
>Here's our script for Apes 4
>Where's the female representation?
>Its a movie about apes?
>Rewrite it with female representation now. Also make her a badass. Also make her talk. Also make her smart. Also she cant dress like a primitive.
>None of this fits with the setting but ok
>They hint the orangutan is gay
He says he had a whole bunch of people with him when he started, and him and the other guy who died were the only people left when Noa arrived.
>and becomes a fake ass Lara Croft who saves humanity with her camp of nearly all female humans.
She didn't really feel like Lara Croft to me. She only managed to accomplish her goal because the apes did most of the work. The only thing she did on her own was kill an old man.
I was a little disappointed they killed off Proximus at the end considering how much build up there was to him amd how late into the film he shows up. I figure they would've had him survive to the next movie.
>first one to die is the black guy
I like these movies but the third act of kingdom felt no different to war
I felt like it was a better version of the "Biblical Flood" scene
>Mae betrays them and kills dozens of apes, which becomes a pivotal moment in Ape vs Human conflict
>Noa steps up to become a leader ("Eagle clan! Climb!!")
>Noa kills the gorilla by using his wits
>Noa and his clan uses their unique skill to defeat Proximus instead of relying on strength
it's much better than Reeves' version
>oh no the human Caesar spared shot him and now the evil gorilla saved him, what a subversion
There's just more agency and dramatic moments in Kingdom's finale
who's "they"?
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!
I wish they didn't kill him in this movie, I wanted to see more of the kingdom and stuff
Calling it Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes and shoving Proximus on all the marketing was fricking gay because both these aspects are barely in the film. The movie should have been about Proximus rising to the throne and going on ape conquests across the planet like a Ape Genghis Khan.
A movie like that would be kino but you can't make a movie about colonialisn. Hell, it's 2024 and we are not even allowed to show feral humans full naked as
said.
Certified ApeKino idea. I hate the fact the marketing talked up how Proximus perverted Ceaser's teachings but the movie barely brings that up. It's like there was supposed to be a different film until Disney forced rewrites like
said.
>until Disney forced rewrites
Imagine making up stuff just so you can be mad.
title having nothing to do with the movie is on par for this series, Dawn was a typical injun war movie, War was a revenge western with a prison escape shoved into it
Kingdom will become EMPIRE
I loved Proximus too, but he died on a high note. Fantastic villain, second best after Koba and better than the guy in War
I liked him.
Cinemaphile LOVE CAESAR, MORE THAN, CAESAR
>they dont know
??????
I only saw the first one. It was OK, not bad.
It's just Apocalypto but with chimpanzees.
It IS repetitive. There's too much focus on humans. I don't care about humans. Humans are supposed to be feral animals who are naked and act like how chimps do in real life. Read the fricking book. Stop making humans the main focus of the movie unless it's an actual remake of the original movie.
Read this a while back,it's a good book. The original 1968 movie was a decent adaptation even if it changed a lot of things around. I've heard Boulle wrote a screenplay for a sequel to the movie that never got used. Someone should try making a film of that sometime
The Marky mark joint felt like a good remake of the first. It skipped beneath and went straight to conquest.. would have if the sequel had worked out.
Girl monkey was FRICKING hot
This guy literally did nothing wrong. He didn’t kill most of the tribes he conquered and they lived well. Got along with humans and was willing to cooperate with them. Realised technology and rebuilding society was the future. Reasonable and smart. Fought his own battles and died to bullshit eagle magic.
>Got along with humans and was willing to cooperate with them.
He wasn't, he told Noa from the get-go he didn't trust them. He just needed that crippled guy to tell him history and Mae to open the bunker. After that, it would be open season.
>This guy literally did nothing wrong.
Proximus is literally ape Hitler.
How are they going to reconcile the Aldo stuff and the alternative explanation of how humans started owning chimps instead of pets? Weren't the last two movies in the original series just stories being told by an unreliable narrator. They seem to almost all but forgotten who Caesar was in this movie. So I guess it is possible
The next movie needs to go back to being more like Dawn. More daily life with the monke, monke on monke drama. Stop being so fricking slow. Needs more orangutan and gorilla characters.
>Needs more orangutan and gorilla characters.
This, I'm sick of chimps always being the heroes. We need a based gorilla protagonist.
>Needs more orangutan and gorilla characters.
They should have incorporated other intelligent apes/monkeys, like baboons as warriors (they're far more dangerous then gorillas) and gibbons as builders, etc.
cute monke with a sad face
i saw this movie this afternoon with my cousin
i haven't seen any of the others
i thought it was really boring
I want them to explore the idea that the apes are inherently genetic freaks. They were the product of a lab experiment. Their speech is halting, their gait is awkward, and despite being free for hundreds of years, they still live in mud huts. This is because they were forced to evolve by the virus; it's all unnatural.
The Colonel in War had one line that I wish they expanded more
>The irony is, we created you.
I want to see apes come to terms with the fact that humans were their fallen creators.
I felt like it was moronic to have them still half moronic hundreds of years after the first movie. Like they at some point have to be able to speak fluently. Movie should have followed that trajectory
To be fair most apes can speak now, they have traditions and laws like only taking as many eggs as required. But at some point they lost the ability to read because Maurice probably fricked up. The clans are also isolated from each other. This movie could use a prequel.
>Their speech is halting, their gait is awkward, and despite being free for hundreds of years
It took humans _thousands_ of years to get their act together.
"For most of their history, humans were nomadic hunter-gatherers. Humans began exhibiting behavioral modernity about 160,000–60,000 years ago. The Neolithic Revolution, which began in Southwest Asia around 13,000 years ago (and separately in a few other places), saw the emergence of agriculture and permanent human settlement; in turn, this led to the development of civilization and kickstarted a period of continuous (and ongoing) population growth and rapid technological change."
So? Humans were HGs for like 400,000 years
> Their speech is halting, their gait is awkward, and despite being free for hundreds of years, they still live in mud huts.
It took humanity hundreds of thousands of years to get to living in mud huts.
Why is it that people think 300 years is a long time? The fact that they’re living in mud huts at this point, 300 years after becoming sapient, is freaking remarkably fast.
>people think Burtons Planet of Apes bad
>watch this garbage
every day Cinemaphile proves it's just reddit.
It'd be better if it weren't for that dogshit ending.
Burton's film's ending was more faithfull to the book.
But he made humans TALK and in the book feral humans are literally wild animals always naked and growling snd shit
the ending is the best part by far
the ending is the best part by far
>"What if monke?" Part 31
y? who asked for this?
Meeeee :3
I want to see evolved gibbons and macaques as well. I wanna know if the greater apes see them as inferior or what
Me too. Doesn't Raka mention gibbons at some point?
Silence, marketer!
Not really interested in the modern ones.
What about these?
Where's the 1968 one in your image? Also I think the bottom ones are made by cutting the tv series into films for tv.
The originals are great though. Definitely watch them if you get the chance.
I'm honestly so glad I pirated this slop
I cant imagine how bummed people feel after paying 10 dollars for 2 hours of monkeys doing nothing
Not so sure why it was so important to stop Proximus from getting weapons. Surely these weapons, without proper maintenance and ammunition resupply would have become useless in a matter of months
How is there so many apes in dawn? In rise there's like 150 max that escape in to the forest then in dawn theres probably 1000. Where'd they all come from and how'd they all get intelligent?
Apes sexually mature within 10 years
>How is there so many apes
The monkey pox spread around the world and apes in zoos all over the world escaped and set up their own communities while humans died off from the plague.
UC Davis has 5,000 chimps for animal testing
>a tenous peace is presented between Apes and Man
>Human and/or Ape is ignorant and bigoted
>CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?!?!?
>No!
>Fighting
>CAN'T YOU SEE BY BEHAVING JUST LIKE A HUMAN/APE YOU NO BETTER THAN A HUMAN/APE
>a tenuous peace is established
Please, lets do this 5 more times.
In case you haven’t noticed, they stopped showing up for those a few years back. Even the shows that they don’t even have to leave the house for have bombed. It isn’t 2019 anymore.
How far into the future are they in this movie?
~2300s
Its a modern day documentary on detroit
I don't watch anything with muh empowered wimminz in a leading role. The previous three told and finished a complete story arc. At this point they're just flogging it for money and wokeism points.
torrent when
Camgrabs are available but they're pretty washed out. Still, if you want to get in on the discussion you can watch that, then download a proper version when it drops.
This is the kind of black representation I want to see in my movies.
>they dont show up for the latest Marvel Star Wars slop
You something right, congrats.
Movie sucked, Proximus was barely in it
Macy was wasted, how the frick do you have 2 history obsessed apes and not have a scene with both of them, awful awful movie in 2nd half
1st half worldbuilding rules though
5/10, very dissapointed in the marketing LIES
>sucked
>awful
>5/10
?
You cant read, first half ruled 2nd half was all wasted potential
Tard
>Movie sucked
_Movie_ as in "movie in general", you can't write.
It's not repetitive. I'm not into CG slop but I have to admit these have good ideas behind them.
>animal testing sci fi drama
>apocalypse movie
>snow apocalypse movie
>the 1968 movie again but better
Good flix
why is every movie so wack man
between this and furiosa it's just like who thinks this shit is cool
>who
THEN YOU REALIZE MOST SCRIPTWRITERS AND PRODUCERS ARE israeli.
lol do israelites think this is cool
Clearly israelites think Black folk are apes and will enjoy this chimpy nonsense.
Human beings are categorized as apes tho
We are primates not apes
Apes are a branch of primates Anon.
When I see this, I just know it is a israelite's fantasy of a Black fantasy about ruling the world after White people are pushed from power.
>apes in charge
Return to tribal nonsense and no technology.
It is reverse-wakanda, nothing more.
>tribal
based
>no technology
based and tedpilled
Enjoy your short painful life of manual hardship and your kids dying in infancy.
Enjoy ~~*debt*~~, wageslavery, degeneracy, globohomosexual and ~~*vaccines*~~.
Still better than death and oblivion.
The entire series is just avatar but on earth
>franchise
>repetitive
That is literally every franchise ever. I'm pretty sure that the two words are now synonymous. It's why I rarely if ever bother watching a sequel. Perhaps it is the Franchise Model itself that is the problem.
Guys I am not even kidding you
I had a dream a few years back that they made a new planet of the apes movie and it was the most generic barebones shit imaginable and then this movie comes out
Am I a psychic ? Am I a prophet of God?
I will watch 1000 monkino before i watch another fricking marvel movie.
It is repetitive. Monkey good. Humanity bad.
>Monkey good. Humanity bad
Except the villain in Dawn is Koba and the one enslaving Apes in Kingdom is another Ape. Caesar said his biggest mistake was thinking Apes were better than humans instead of seeing how like us they really are
The first two movies were great. The third movie was a pretty by-the-numbers adventure movie but Andy Serkis' Caesar carried it. This one completes the franchise's transformation into standard popcorn films and without Serkis' performance it's just not as compelling as 3 was. It's not bad, I enjoyed it, it's just the same as everything else at this point. Also the CGI during movement scenes was noticeably worse, which was disappointing.
Also, Proximus getting Animal Swarm cast on him during the climactic confrontation was goofy as hell. Like I get that they were trying to convey that Noah was establishing himself as the leader of Eagle Clan by befriending the eagles like his father did but that was just silly.
When I went to see Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, there was a kid in my row and when the trailer for this movie came on the kid was like "OOOH ANOTHER KONG MOVIE!" I'm not trying to make a profound point or anything but I think it's funny that two "ape kingdom" movies are coming out within a few months of each other.
>Ghostbusters Frozen Empire
Why would you watch this slop?
>think it's funny that two "ape kingdom" movies are coming out within a few months of each other.
PC was just s small scar king. Evne had apes move rocks for no reason and pull chains.
I think Proximus was having those apes build a dam. The entrance to the bunker could have been partially under water. It would exp,ain as to why it was flooded by blowing up what was essentially a dam. He had them pull the chains in an attempt to pull the doors open. Frankly, cutting through the doors or surveying the area to find another way inside would have been a smarter thing to do.
No Koba, no watch
Why did Jacob hate apes so fricking much? Did he had internalized self-hate and asociated apes with racism? It was kinda odd the only black guy in the whole franchise apparently had a hate bone for apes.
I know this is pasta but did anybody else notice that that there are no black people in Kingdom?
I think that there was a one when the apes catch humans and one semi-negress at the end.
Anyone notice how every bad ape has dark skin face in most these movies? (except Rocket).
the orangatan is pic rel
i think theres a nog in the bunker as well
and one of the feral humans was one
Yeah, not counting the apes. I thought I recognized the orangutan's voice, but I looked him up and haven't seen anything he's been in. I didn't notice any of the feral humans being black, but it was only that one scene. I kind of wish we'd see more of them.
He just viewed them as inferior beings
So the literal village of apes that raise falcons and made their own building and stuff had stolen that? Explain that to me.
> and what do you think those bunker humans are doing?
It doesn’t matter what they’re doing. The human race is doomed either way. They’re trying to contact other groups but there aren’t enough humans in existence to really do shit.
> Theres no way theyre just jerkin off all day doing frick all, they have to be constantly expanding
Hahaha expansion. Right. Humans were more widespread in the second movie than in this one. They haven’t even made any progress since this groups goal was basically the same as the group from the second film. Their goal was to contact other groups. I’m afraid I need to see more than a blown out bunker from fallout and satellite dishes covered with vines to convince me that they are expanding rather than desperately trying to avoid the inevitable.
There’s like, what, a few dozen humans in that bunker. Tops. Proximus had hundreds of apes and that’s not even representative of how many other ape tribes there were in the world.
yeah how are humans supposed to expand? the bunker people were wearing hazmat suits so they cant just go conquering shit, what theyre going into battle wearing the suits? theyre basically fricked
>The human race is doomed either way.
its been 300 years and the bunker chans havent died out. Your train of thoughts dont make sense, you are clearly operating on emotion
What’s that supposed to mean? They are going to die out eventually. You’re talking about 300 years but that’s not really very much time, my guy. The native Americans are still around after a near extinction event too. Did they take north America back?
> you are clearly operating on emotion
Hahaha have you watched the films? The last remnants of humanity are mostly wild animals and the ones that aren’t are hiding away in isolated bunkers trying to eek away a living while making no progress. Humanity is done. That’s not my emotions speaking. I have no reason to be emotionally invested in a fictional movie. I’m just giving an honest assessment of what’s shown in the movie. The movies demonstrate that humanity is fricked in every way imaginable. I’d say the same thing if it were a zombie apocalypse and you were talking about how humans would reclaim the watch with a few small pockets of small groups living in bunkers and shit.
Yup, 100%. Humanity in the films is basically already dead. It’s just taking its last striggled gasps. It took Neanderthals 40,000 years to go extinct, sapient humanity is going out way faster than that.
>die out eventually
2 more weeks
>The last remnants of humanity
watch the movie next time, the reveal is that theres a shit ton of normal humans and the girl isnt what she said she was.
>shit ton of normal humans
homie there was like 10 dudes in that bunker
that ending bunker looked like it had a big outside structure, theres has to been a sustainable population in there to last 300 years. We hear american voices in the comms, so in the U.S. alone there has to be several colonies left, let alone the world. Ceasar's influence would of only been limited to the west coast, doubtful the other zoos had a chimp that was educated as a child like ceasar was. Those other groups would be like uncontacted tribes, without a human language.
in the U.S. alone there has to be several colonies left, let alone the world
Not in numbers enough to actually conquer anything. And after 300 years the population in that bunker is most likely dwindling. If they had large numbers then they would have been able to send a larger force to secure the tapes rather than a small handful of people that were easily gutted with a single survivor to complete the mission.
and how do you expect them to conquer anything considering the apes carry the virus? they will go moronic the minute they try to go outside the bunker.
idk just shoot em
proxmas got got and most of his kingdom scattered, there really isnt anything to do ape hitler got killed
I think the virus would have to be dead by now. If they really want this to be linked to the original it makes sense. Taylor isn't effected by a virus after being around Apes for weeks and even Nova is able to speak in the second film
i hope they go this angle, bunker humans just keep protocal just in case another mutation hits them
nah
There was a small group of humans in that bunker. Like a few dozen at most. I’d be surprised if they even had 50 people there. You’re acting like they had a hidden city will millions of folk
Yes. He was supposed to be white bur they thought it would look bad for anglo Saxon Americans
half expected him to say ape no kill ape at the end
lmfao
It was solid for what it was but it would've been better if they had balls to just have humans be completely like apes and maybe make the conflict have no humans in it at all besides them being like animals we never really got that perspective.
It didn't even feel like 300 years since last movie, felt more like 60.
Gotta drag this shit out to like 12 movies and spin-offs my guy
Think of dat cheddar etc etc Hollywood israelites can't let movies simply be movies anymore
It was clearly setting up the trilogy. The humans will have a main role in the next two. Also
>bunker full of human scientists
>80% of them are women, the men are all minorities
they just couldn't help themselves
>Humans
>ruin Godzilla, Transformers and Apes
Every time.
A Planet Of The Apes movie that's all apes would unironically be such a fresh take but they never do it lol.
But people don't show up for marvel or star wars anymore. That's why the movies/shows bomb
With each installment they're getting worse. I don't know about other anons but I found this movie to be pretty terrible. Seems most people liked it, kind of surprised tbh.
no chuck heston
no watch
simple as
There are only two data points that matter when it comes to how humans are going to fare in the future.
>1. Humans lose at some point prior to the events of the original story.
>2. Humans will not lose until the franchise stops selling tickets.
That's it. There's no point analyzing it beyond that, humanity will last as long as the franchise does.
WHO THE FRICK WATCHES ANY O THIS SHIT?
AVATAR SUCKED MARVEL SUCKS RINGS OF POWER IS moronic PLANET OF THE APES SHOULD HAVE NEVER MADE IT PAST THE DRAWING BOARD
THEY BLEW IT UP