People have the right to be afraid of mutants.
Comparing mutants to minorities like homosexuals is moronic.
Mutant can accidentaly destroy a city. Homos don't.
People have the right to be afraid of mutants. Comparing mutants to minorities like homosexuals is retarded.
No one's afraid of mutants. Nearly every depiction of a kid manifesting his mutant powers results in humies attacking him, that's just hatred.
And people have every right and MUST hate homosexuals, homophobia doesn't actually mean fear.
>Mutant can accidentaly destroy a city. Homos don't.
Tell that to San Francisco.
thats homeless not homosexual you dummy
The homeless are gay too
tell it to all the Gay School Shooters.
Every fricking day I see one of you guys complain about how the gays and the blacks and the trans are causing the downfall of civilization.
I blame the greeks
The Greeks still punished people for it and used it as an insult.
Not as much as the Romans. They literally killed a Caesar for being a troon (who offered all of Rome to any doctor who could give him a real, working vegana). They say he also fricked a Vestal Virgin, which is a big no no, but the real reason is b/c troon
Actually what prompted Elagabalus' assassination was that he angered aristocrats and the praetorian guard with his religious changes and foreign affairs, as well as the fact that he was already scheming and colluding against other influential patricians. His troon stuff was just seemingly annoying
Long story short, gays pissing everyone off
The Greeks fricked bears, you know.
If everyone's saying it, maybe they should stop causing the downfall of civilization then?
the first rule is don't base social ideas based on what you read on imageboards
I suppose having your worldview challenged must feel like the end of civilization to them.
Everyone who isn't me is a threat to civilization. All of civilization exists to serve me and me alone. I'm not going to dress up my narcissism and megalomania with nonsense about freeing the world from a tyrannical conspiracy. I just want to rule everything and force everyone to be me or die so me will exist forever. I am the most honest person on Cinemaphile.
What is the X-Men equivalent of this book?
>conversion therapy
oh frick holy shit the person who wrote that is as stupid as conservatives
>page on the right suggests lesbians being showcased
that has to do with harem fantasies. women having sex with each other is appealing to men because they are not with another man, meaning they are not with a rival male
With the advent of the butch lesbian, rival females are now a thing, anon.
are they though? are they REALLY?
>people have a right to be afraid of mutants
and mutants have a right to defend themselves
>comparing them to homos is moronic
specifically it was the Legacy Virus and bigots that started that probably in x-men 27
>mutant can accidentally destroy a city
and humans destroy cities on purpose in wars that humans start. humans are far more dangerous.
this is the same when people talk shit about A.I. being evil. what are you afraid of? A.I. doing shit that humans have already done and are still doing to each other? wow sounds pretty concerning.
>and mutants have a right to defend themselves
They've always defended themselves. They've done nothing BUT defend themselves. Meanwhile any time a human tries to get their own defense system going the x-men scream like chimps before it's even off the ground. So mutants can defend themselves but humans are supposed to just take it whenever magneto wants free missiles.
The comparison between the X-Men and "western minority" was only ever window dressing, it never really had to make sense further than mutant = not normal. You can replace them with DC's thing with metahumans and it wouldn't really be much different other than the insistence of writers to draw parallels to civil rights ad nauseam,
>sentinels are weapons of race wars
>stan lee created black panther
>magneto back story is israeli holocaust survivor
>Legacy Virus and bigotry against gays is directly compared to HIV/AIDS in x-men 27
>window dressing
Like I said, window dressing. Because you can always have X-Men without those things. see: their video games.
No? Even when you have the most barebones story, you're still playing as the characters from the books. You can't just say Moby Dick doesn't exist because Ahab shows up in some kids show.
>Legacy Virus
you mean the moronic storyline that ended with Beast curing the aids metaphor when only like in the last fifteen years we've come up with a reoccurring treatment to make people with aids survive let alone fricking curing them? Yeah, great example dumbfrick.
Jesus Christ, this. The X-Men aren't even the first time Lee and Kirby played the "Oh, woe is me, I the Hero am hated by the ungrateful sheep I protect!" saw. Spider-Man and the Hulk had it as their bread and butter before, and Ben Grimm was dealing with it before THEM.
As far as metaphors go, I always thought the closest 1-to-1 was Vietnam vets. Deadlier than the typical civilian, and simultaneously outcast by both those civilians *and* older-generation heroes (much like Vietnam vets were rejected by WWII and Korea vets for making America look weak).
>The X-Men aren't even the first time Lee and Kirby played the "Oh, woe is me, I the Hero am hated by the ungrateful sheep I protect!" saw. Spider-Man and the Hulk had it as their bread and butter before, and Ben Grimm was dealing with it before THEM.
Yeah, but the X-Men are the only ones born that way, effectively creating their own race. Spider-Man is just a metaphor for generic bad luck. Hulk is a Jekyll and Hyde. Thing is a tragic figure.
>Homos don't.
>According to the World Health Organization (WHO), more than 36 million people have died of HIV since the start of the HIV/AIDS pandemic1. In 2020, around 680,000 people died1. The UNAIDS reports that approximately 40.4 million people have died from AIDS-related illnesses since the start of the epidemic2
Looks like it's time for a Sentinel program.
>Only gay people get AIDS
Most people with AIDS are gays, yes
Apparently any countermeasure to the danger mutants pose to humanity, no matter how small, is a step too far for mutantkind. What a joke of a species. The Mutant Cure/Hope Serum in the comics IS not unethical dilemma AT ALL and I'll never understand why they always position it as such.
Because of the idea of being forcibly mandated so that the mutants lose their special powers. Which it was created for in the first comic that introduced the concept. And is a logic that seems to hold up, that being a mutant isn't something to be "cured", right up until the guys in pic included came bursting into the compound demanding a cure and you realize that the guys most against the mutant cure are people who already have a giant community of friends and family who would (presumably) care for them regardless of powers while these miserable fricks are suffering by just existing.
Are we sure in those bodies' physical conditions they won't die if you make them not a mutant?
Odds are they would consider it worth the risk in that either way, their suffering ends
Not counting mine awareness like Nightcrawler Beast and I guess Angel to not be with redundant what are some higher profile freak of nature looking mutants? Cuz despite the fact I think a few of those groups are supposed to exist when I think of freaky looking mutants who have actual identities I'm thinking mainly of Spider-Man special class.
If we're just looking into the X-men, there's Beak, Glob Herman, Eye Boy, Skin, Chamber, Penance, Leech, Maggott, Rockslide, Anole, Greymalkin, Onyxx, Ernst, Wolf Cub, and No-Girl, and those are just the mutants that associated with or lived at one of the academies, we're not even talking neutral groups like the Morlocks or X-statix, or villains/former villains like Toad and Blob, or even the civvies that got the big shaft like Ugly John here whose "power" is three overlapping faces. And not even handsome ones.
But besides Toad him Bob who are probably most known for being villains how much do non-comic book fans know about any of those guys?
Anecdotal, but half the time someone brings up a "really freaky looking X-men character", Glob Herman is usually the pick because "skeleton covered in a flesh-colored jelly suit to keep his eyeballs and guts from floating off" really works as a striking visual.
Also Husk, sometimes.
>Blob
Curing him arguably makes him worse looking
Ernst has progeria unrelated to mutation. No-Girl's mutation is psychic powers and glow-in-the-dark blood, her being a brain in a jar was the result of being vivisected by the U-Men and the X-Men literally not caring enough to give her a new body.
Well that also brings up another point, the cure is always carried by bad faith actors. That doesn't make the cure bad at all. It would just be like a cure to autism. You don't have to frame it like the government is breaking down people's doors, holding them down and jabbing them with a vaccine. The real reason is that it removes the drama of one of the biggest X-men, Rogue, from her largest character conflict and others like her if they are provided an avenue where they don't want shit they didn't want in the first place.
Actually I believe in the story The guy uses in His image the person creating the Cure while the main human person was a medical professional who motivation was mainly Dangerous Powers that her primary example was a not even teenage girl who Powers I believe accidentally killed her parents and who need to be in clear isolation that already probably was Hughes on her mental development to grow up functionally. The problem was I believe she was being funded by I think aliens who hated mutants and somehow Colossus came back to life for the first time and that's how he got the metal skin.
Rogue is kind of proving them right in the latest episode with her just smashing shit
Looks like they can ruin all entertainment on purpose, though.
Firey but peaceful protests doesn't count?
You are completely right, OP senpai!
I'm going to X their Men.
Humans destroy cities too. Deliberately try to commit global genocide. I guess it’s okay to wipe out humanity now too.
And your point is?
>Homos don't
Not by accident, anyway.
God, Whirlwind must be happy he dodged the X Bullet despite being a mutant. He shows up, stalks Wasp, joins Masters of Evil, kept his powers after M Day
I only fap to one mutant, Emma Frost.
homos degenerate society they are allowed to participate in. you can rebuild what a mutant destroys. what marxists use homos to do to society is virtually impossible to recover from.
>a kid will understand a basic message of "judge people by their character, not some label"
>an adult will endlessly complain that the allegory makes no sense because it isn't directly like real life
People have disbelief when they consume fiction. How is it that a hero dodges all the bullets and we just accept that? Suspension of disbelief is often completely arbitrary. It is when someone complains that something took them out of the fiction. The simple truth though is that the allegory is secondary to the fact that it is a superheroic soap opera. And people endlessly applying real life to things is pointless. It is the same as:
>Why doesn't Bruce Wayne just use his money to fix problems instead of injuring poor people and the mentally ill?
It is intellectually dishonest attempt to feel like you're cleverer than some piece of entertainment. But that isn't true intellectualism. Personally I blame a lot of modern society and how it has turned one group of people into "mindlessly consume slop" and another group into "le heckin' youtube critic nitpicker".
For what it's worth, the X-men comics themselves have kind of contributed to that exact problem by trying to "explain" why the animosity never seems to die down with ridiculous tricks like the "Extinction Gene" and Sublime, rather than just keeping to the KISS principle where society is confused and ignorant to the distinction between emergent groups like the X-men and the Brotherhood of mutants, while the X-men themselves are reluctant to put themselves center stage in a world that they fear doesn't WANT to understand them. I don't quite know how we reached the point we did, but somewhere along the way editorial's lost the plot.
>"explain" why the animosity never seems to die down
I think this is more a case of:
>the comics have literally done every storyline you can think of and there and back again
So we have gone from fighting to protect humanity to every different timeline and time travel thing you can think of. But again, you have just as much Shi'ar cosmic shenanigans and superheroics as you do actual hated and feared stuff.
After a while every new "big status quo" change rolls into the next. But if they went back to "superheroic soap opera stuff" it probably wouldn't sell. Unfortunately we are trapped with multiplication effect of "every new book needs big changes" because the industry, creatives and audiences are all trapped doing that.
I'd like them to do a different mutant book again like X-Statix was.
Honestly, the "hated and feared" stuff is just such background material to the amount of aliens the X-men have pissed off that it's outright funny to me how shocked people were that making those types of villains the main ones for five years sucked as much as as it did.
And we really do need another book that just dumps the X-men in favor of someone else. Like a dedicated space exploration team that's repeatedly needing to put their powers to good use to survive the strange environments and creatures trying to obliterate them, or something.
People have RIGHT to be a mutant!