The moment girls were seen showing up to the theatre dressed in pink it was clear we were dealing with a cultural phenomenon. Only way it was going to have a huge drop off was if it was complete shit, which it wasn't
You can screencap a handful of delusional morons but everyone who had common sense coild have seen the writing on the wall
Allan actually likes women beyond them being sex objects and thinks for himself. The chuds here have no one to actually identify with in the movie because there's no basement dwelling, troony obsessed homosexuals in the film
allan is literally a background character and a women repellent, you can even hear the barbies expressing discomfort when he's around, so he definitely fit the average Cinemaphile poster
This movie tried to demonstrate why patriarchy is bad but ended up showing the barbies as arrogant c**ts too that were even more cruel than men, and as bad as the people they complained about >"WOW, PATRIARCHY SUCK, LETS MAKE A MATRIARCHY INSTEAD" >wonder why ken tried to take over in the first place
there's not a clear reflection in the end, they just made an inverted world with the same bullshit instead of trying to be better
At the end they clearly say that kens can have minor roles in society but not important ones like Supreme Court judges or President. If that's not a parody of early feminism I don't know what it is. Not my fault if you can't grasp the meaning of a moronic movie
>not important ones like Supreme Court judges or President
That's literally not what they said. They literally just said the kens have to work up to stuff like that. It's anti affirmative action but apparently now the right is for that.
>They literally just said the kens have to work up to stuff like that
Yeah, like "you CAN try, but you never will" the same thing they told to suffragettes in the 1910s
It's a Kafka trap. The narrator says that maybe eventually the kens will have as much power as the women have irl. If you think women are fine irl then you should be fine with that fate for the ken as well, but if you think that's bullshit and they should be really equal or something then it forces you to reconsider your position about irl feminism
It's not very clever and is smug as frick, but that was the point
9 months ago
Anonymous
>if you think barbieland is shit, that's because real world is shit since barbieland is an inverted real world!
I get that, but I thought they would at least present a solution or something more positive than just saying that
9 months ago
Anonymous
wait a minute, if barbieland is just an inverted world, then doesnt that mean that when kens take over and are shown as being complete morons at it (like when they were completely clueless about how to build a wall), then if we invert that, we are basically saying that women are complete morons when given power? I think this movie shot itself on the foot
9 months ago
Anonymous
you forget the fact that libtards and women lack self-awareness and they think they are always better so they didnt thought about that detail, in their minds, they probably just assumed that women are perfect and smarter in both worlds, so the inversion wouldnt really backfire
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's what leads me to think that it wasn't really concerned with saying something about the real world. I think the message it was going for was all about embracing life as complicated and unpleasant as it is and try to make the best of it, with feminist rhetoric being just window dressing to it because it is a Barbie movie and somehow we made her culturally either a feminist icon or a disgrace for all women depending on the hot new narrative
In the ending Barbie doesn't want to become a supreme court judge. She just needs to see a gynecologist because she chose to be a real woman with all that that entails
If that's not the case then it is just a therapy session for women who get to see all of their supposed problems and hang-ups getting a spotlight on the big screen, and a telling-off for the men who accompanied their gfs to see it. Which is fine I guess, but orders of magnitude less interesting for me
But you ARE a shill though aren't you. You're not here because you're an anonymous loser on the internet who likes pop-culture and shitting on hollywood, you're somehow involved with Warner right?
Am I wrong?
Because if I'm right then you should watch Oshi No Ko to help you understand your place in the wide entertainment ecosystem as well as getting your heartstrings plucked by seriously top quality writing.
If I'm wrong then you should still watch Oshi No Ko for all the same reasons.
Whether you're a shill, a celeb, or Anon, Oshi No Ko is about all of us.
I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the OP.
The OP isn't fooling anyone, none of these hollywood arseholes fool anyone. They pretend to not be hollywood arseholes, and we pretend to be fooled. We're all putting on an act.
But what I want to do is tell the OP that I see him/her/xir/whatever, I hate what they're pretending to be, but I don't hate them. They're putting on a performance for my benefit, and while it's an absolutely terrible perfomance, after watching Oshi No Ko I can't help but see the effort of doing a perfomance at all as a kind of love.
And if they were to watch Oshi No Ko too then we could accept each other for who we really are, instead of pretending to be enemies.
It was fun to see oshi no ko exploding overnight due to the pilot episode and being heralded as something revolutionary only to see the newbie audience slowly dwindling and the online discourse shifting as it started to focus less and less on the edgy murder mystery and more on your usual comedy/harem/idol stuff
The legacy of this show won't be some hard-hitting critique of show business, it will be waifu wars. And that's a good thing
ken is the guy who wants a barbie as his partner, allan is the guy who is just there and while he can be friends with barbies he doesn't see them as partners. he's a friend, not the lover ken wants to be. ideally men should be partly both
You guys missed the point entirely. Alan, Midge, and Skipper were all dolls Mattel released. Skipper was a puberty doll, Midge was Barbie's ugly friend that got pregnant, Alan came across as possibly bisexual. They all got discontinued. Alan and Midge were later rereleased as a family with twins, which made people decide that families were somehow anti-Barbie/encouraing teen pregnancy/whatever.
If you pay attention in the movie, Alan's the only one actually thinking for himself. Everyone starts out brainwashed one way, then get brainwashed another way. Alan's just sort of vibing and makes a choice based on his own opinion (Matchbox 20 sucks).
>Alan's the only one actually thinking for himse
Idk I thought it was weird and maybe an oversight how the catalyst for Barbie to snap out of the fantasy world of barbieland was the influence of the Hispanic woman over her while ken was already feeling existential anguish and angst of his own enough for him to want to tag along and find his way. Wouldn't you say he was thinking for himself, while simply lacking enough information to properly di that?
Is the ending supposed to be happy? Every thread I've seen, people just assume that the writers are trying do prescribe what they think society should do. But then you have the creator of Barbie basically saying "everything sucks, then you die. don't get worked up about things".
I think they tried to give a positive message but they got lost in their analogies and examples and then became too cynical to give a damn anymore
also the libtards lack self-awareness so they dont realize they are just the same as the people they complain about or even worse
the whole movie is a big strawman that ends up mocking itself, althought it did had some moments of clarity and reality check >doesnt being a man benefit you here? >quite the contrary
also >some of my best friends are israeli!
>life sucks but it is worth living
Seems life-affirming enough for me. At the very least not as hopelessly cynical as what we are used to get from Hollywood
please just let it die already, you made your $1b, now frick off!
just accept you're enough even if you're an incel, chud
what happened "barbie will have largest second week drop" bros
The moment girls were seen showing up to the theatre dressed in pink it was clear we were dealing with a cultural phenomenon. Only way it was going to have a huge drop off was if it was complete shit, which it wasn't
You can screencap a handful of delusional morons but everyone who had common sense coild have seen the writing on the wall
/tv/bucks status: broken
Allan actually likes women beyond them being sex objects and thinks for himself. The chuds here have no one to actually identify with in the movie because there's no basement dwelling, troony obsessed homosexuals in the film
allan is literally a background character and a women repellent, you can even hear the barbies expressing discomfort when he's around, so he definitely fit the average Cinemaphile poster
Allan knocked up the pregnant Barbie's friend (Midge?)
My GF gave me a 2h course
Is that some Barbie doll lore? That's hilarious
Allan is the best fighter in the movie.
>The chuds here have no one to actually identify with in the movie
Imagine posting this thinking that somehow it was an own.
Alan is a FTM troony
So definitely a /misc/tard chud self-insert.
Allan is canonically the only male to have ever had sex what in Barbieland, having knocked up Midge
It's not that hard to touch grass OP
is he supposed to represent trans? He looks like he's got some big ol breasts laying low under that shirt
he's just the real incel of the movie
I wonder if that casting troubles him in real life.
Cera? nah, he actually embraces the disgusting weirdo persona, remember how he portrayed himself in This is the End
You don't even know what incel means.
>involuntary celibate
what part of that doesnt fit Allan?
that's just the formal meaning, nowadays it's associated with misogyny
The part about wanting to have sex.
Allan is a volcel.
they don’t even have genitals. they’re all dolls.
frick, people on this board are morons.
I thought he was gay coded
My name actually is Ken, and Gosling is playing me.
Barbie movie is literally a meme factory, I can't believe there's so little about it yet, a lot of scenes are top tier
the Barbenheimer pic with her and oppy was literally the best thing I've seen in idk how long
the japanese barbenbinladen was my favourite
Look at his face, I want to kill him so much
Wow he's literally me
did they leave out the asian guy on purpose?
Where's the troony? And the obese fatso? And the brown mother and daughter dynamic duo? Whew that's bigotry if I ever saw one
>not only Literally Me is in the movie but also Literally Me In High School
Holy dog, I HAVE got to watch this film!
>not being McLovin
didn't they make this clear? There is only one allan, and everyone hates him. So if you think others are allan that makes you allan.
This movie tried to demonstrate why patriarchy is bad but ended up showing the barbies as arrogant c**ts too that were even more cruel than men, and as bad as the people they complained about
>"WOW, PATRIARCHY SUCK, LETS MAKE A MATRIARCHY INSTEAD"
>wonder why ken tried to take over in the first place
there's not a clear reflection in the end, they just made an inverted world with the same bullshit instead of trying to be better
>they just made an inverted world with the same bullshit instead of trying to be better
That's the point of this "parody"
>I swear, it's meant to be moronic!
Every time with you people. Go away and reflect on why you're so hard-headed.
At the end they clearly say that kens can have minor roles in society but not important ones like Supreme Court judges or President. If that's not a parody of early feminism I don't know what it is. Not my fault if you can't grasp the meaning of a moronic movie
>not important ones like Supreme Court judges or President
That's literally not what they said. They literally just said the kens have to work up to stuff like that. It's anti affirmative action but apparently now the right is for that.
>They literally just said the kens have to work up to stuff like that
Yeah, like "you CAN try, but you never will" the same thing they told to suffragettes in the 1910s
It's a Kafka trap. The narrator says that maybe eventually the kens will have as much power as the women have irl. If you think women are fine irl then you should be fine with that fate for the ken as well, but if you think that's bullshit and they should be really equal or something then it forces you to reconsider your position about irl feminism
It's not very clever and is smug as frick, but that was the point
>if you think barbieland is shit, that's because real world is shit since barbieland is an inverted real world!
I get that, but I thought they would at least present a solution or something more positive than just saying that
wait a minute, if barbieland is just an inverted world, then doesnt that mean that when kens take over and are shown as being complete morons at it (like when they were completely clueless about how to build a wall), then if we invert that, we are basically saying that women are complete morons when given power? I think this movie shot itself on the foot
you forget the fact that libtards and women lack self-awareness and they think they are always better so they didnt thought about that detail, in their minds, they probably just assumed that women are perfect and smarter in both worlds, so the inversion wouldnt really backfire
That's what leads me to think that it wasn't really concerned with saying something about the real world. I think the message it was going for was all about embracing life as complicated and unpleasant as it is and try to make the best of it, with feminist rhetoric being just window dressing to it because it is a Barbie movie and somehow we made her culturally either a feminist icon or a disgrace for all women depending on the hot new narrative
In the ending Barbie doesn't want to become a supreme court judge. She just needs to see a gynecologist because she chose to be a real woman with all that that entails
If that's not the case then it is just a therapy session for women who get to see all of their supposed problems and hang-ups getting a spotlight on the big screen, and a telling-off for the men who accompanied their gfs to see it. Which is fine I guess, but orders of magnitude less interesting for me
I think you need to watch Oshi No Ko.
Not the person you're pretending to be, I mean YOU Warner shill. Oshi No Ko is for YOU.
>discussing films is shilling
actual brainrot
But you ARE a shill though aren't you. You're not here because you're an anonymous loser on the internet who likes pop-culture and shitting on hollywood, you're somehow involved with Warner right?
Am I wrong?
Because if I'm right then you should watch Oshi No Ko to help you understand your place in the wide entertainment ecosystem as well as getting your heartstrings plucked by seriously top quality writing.
If I'm wrong then you should still watch Oshi No Ko for all the same reasons.
Whether you're a shill, a celeb, or Anon, Oshi No Ko is about all of us.
dude, the only shill here is you, shilling your trannime bullshit
I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the OP.
The OP isn't fooling anyone, none of these hollywood arseholes fool anyone. They pretend to not be hollywood arseholes, and we pretend to be fooled. We're all putting on an act.
But what I want to do is tell the OP that I see him/her/xir/whatever, I hate what they're pretending to be, but I don't hate them. They're putting on a performance for my benefit, and while it's an absolutely terrible perfomance, after watching Oshi No Ko I can't help but see the effort of doing a perfomance at all as a kind of love.
And if they were to watch Oshi No Ko too then we could accept each other for who we really are, instead of pretending to be enemies.
las pastillas
I don't speak taco.
It was fun to see oshi no ko exploding overnight due to the pilot episode and being heralded as something revolutionary only to see the newbie audience slowly dwindling and the online discourse shifting as it started to focus less and less on the edgy murder mystery and more on your usual comedy/harem/idol stuff
The legacy of this show won't be some hard-hitting critique of show business, it will be waifu wars. And that's a good thing
I viewed him as your typical beta male. The type of guy who would say "if women ran the world there would be no war."
There are more lovesick Kens here than you think.
Allan just seems not to give a frick about anybody.
Sigma
quite the opposite
ken is the guy who wants a barbie as his partner, allan is the guy who is just there and while he can be friends with barbies he doesn't see them as partners. he's a friend, not the lover ken wants to be. ideally men should be partly both
You guys missed the point entirely. Alan, Midge, and Skipper were all dolls Mattel released. Skipper was a puberty doll, Midge was Barbie's ugly friend that got pregnant, Alan came across as possibly bisexual. They all got discontinued. Alan and Midge were later rereleased as a family with twins, which made people decide that families were somehow anti-Barbie/encouraing teen pregnancy/whatever.
If you pay attention in the movie, Alan's the only one actually thinking for himself. Everyone starts out brainwashed one way, then get brainwashed another way. Alan's just sort of vibing and makes a choice based on his own opinion (Matchbox 20 sucks).
>Alan's the only one actually thinking for himse
Idk I thought it was weird and maybe an oversight how the catalyst for Barbie to snap out of the fantasy world of barbieland was the influence of the Hispanic woman over her while ken was already feeling existential anguish and angst of his own enough for him to want to tag along and find his way. Wouldn't you say he was thinking for himself, while simply lacking enough information to properly di that?
Is the ending supposed to be happy? Every thread I've seen, people just assume that the writers are trying do prescribe what they think society should do. But then you have the creator of Barbie basically saying "everything sucks, then you die. don't get worked up about things".
child, dont forget to raise your hand before speaking up. top fricking kek!
I think they tried to give a positive message but they got lost in their analogies and examples and then became too cynical to give a damn anymore
also the libtards lack self-awareness so they dont realize they are just the same as the people they complain about or even worse
the whole movie is a big strawman that ends up mocking itself, althought it did had some moments of clarity and reality check
>doesnt being a man benefit you here?
>quite the contrary
also
>some of my best friends are israeli!
>life sucks but it is worth living
Seems life-affirming enough for me. At the very least not as hopelessly cynical as what we are used to get from Hollywood
>but I think most people here are actually Allan
Average anons wish they could fight five guys at once like Allan did.