People keep saying Cyclops was done dirty in the X-Men movies, but he had a pretty good showing in X1. >Leads the team

People keep saying Cyclops was done dirty in the X-Men movies, but he had a pretty good showing in X1.

>Leads the team
>Wrecks Sabertooth twice
>Takes down Magneto
>Gets a pretty emotional scene promising comatose Xavier he will always take care of the students
>Warms up to Wolverine and they end the movie on good terms (laughing when Wolverine flips him off, the "you're a dick" exchange)

X2 is really the one that dropped the ball by sidelining him, making him lame (listening to N'Sync in 2002) and reverting him back to perma-seething about Wolverine. And then James Marsden wrecked his shot at being the lead in X3 by signining up for Superman Returns instead.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    icant believe kamala gets to come home to that

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      hot

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cringe.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the problem with X1 Scott is that the team dynamic is just all sort of wrong so it leaves him feeling second string to Logan. Idk he needed to be a bit of dick when it comes to leading or like had Storm to be the one to argue against some of his choices. Because in the film it leaves Scott feeling sort of sadly innocent when Logan acts like an butthole.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where as him and Logan should both be buttholes.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        They were. Scott was salty about Logan's presence from day one and even suggested they use him as bait to lure out Magneto. Not to mention throwing in Logan's face that he stabbed Rogue.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    X-2 and James Marsden signing up for Superman Returns are what ruined the Foxverse Cyclops. X-Men (2000) did him justice.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He signed up for Returns because Singer asked; if Fox had waited, versus forcing the shit show that was Last Stand, where they couldn't even be fussed with really basic and minor shit like it suddenly going from day light to near total darkness on the bridge in the third act, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

      X2 had other problems and a lot of them had to do with normies responding to Jackman and Logan and Donner being an idiot about it, and Kinberg being a hack.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >where they couldn't even be fussed with really basic and minor shit like it suddenly going from day light to near total darkness on the bridge in the third act

        There was a time skip.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >if Fox had waited,

        They were already in pre-production with a release date set; the director going to another studio to do what was clearly intended to be the start of another franchise, instead of sticking out the end of the one he'd been working on for over six years, was a huge error on his part. WB had no reason to rush ahead with Superman Returns with Singer at the helm and could still have met their own deadline with any other director. It was pure spite on their part to try and derail a rival franchise and pure stupidity on Singer and Marsden's parts to sign up to it on the assumption that Superman, a series that had one incredibly popular and critically acclaimed movie out of the four it had made to that date, would succeed at WB, the studio that most recently at the time he signed had made Catwoman, a movie so bad it was being legitimately panned months before it even released.

        I'm not gonna defend FOX's movies to you at all, in fact I think they're severely overrated and where they succeed it's where they're basically competent filmmaking and storytelling and not where they're trying to redefine genre, character or storyline, and the grosses tend to agree with that assessment, but god damn dude you can't say you're in for three movies and then just wander off because you got a bigger cash offer. Singer and Marsden got everything they deserved out of Superman Returns, and the best part is it's basically only a workmanlike remake of Superman I, a far superior movie that actually makes more of less special effects and makes the real estate plot, which is even equally diabolical in 78 as it is in Returns, sound credible. Returns relies so heavily on effects that it's boring to watch and the uncharismatic leads and supporting cast do nothing to change that, but even a competent director could have gotten better performances out of them and saved the film.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It was pure spite on their part to try and derail a rival franchise

          Singer heavily pursued that job. It was his dream movie to make.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cyclops is the Captain America of Mutant and his optic blast hits harder than 10 diesel trucks

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      And yet nobody cares about him.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cyclops is the Captain America of Mutant
      Dubious claim and title, but alright.
      >his optic blast hits harder than 10 diesel trucks
      If power level meant anything, he wouldn't be seen as lame compared to a guy whose power is stabbing people.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's true, but it's like Steel being the best DC movie of 1997, it's only good in a vacuum

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer his original dynamic. Slightly tortured but doggedly persistent. The perfectionist who really only steps out of field-leadership when shit starts to hit the fan. The clean-up guy.
    That or proper faction leader. The boy-scout 2ic Scott is okay but not muh preferred Scott.

    Powercreep ruined the punch dimension and its significance. Rightclops era teased his mutation evolving with the radial emissions but never really delivered. Scott is best as a pinch-hitter.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The beginning of the animated series did it best, when he makes the call to leave Morph behind. He's supposed to be the leader that makes harsh, cold and calculated calls for the overall benefit of the team and bare the responsibility for the consequences.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deadpool should give us Punished Cyclops. It would be kino.

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