>Sean Connery as Gandalf >Jack Nicholson as Saruman >Harrison Ford as Aragorn >Leonardo DiCaprio as Frodo >Joaquin Phoenix as Sam
Could have been kino.
He would have been too stoic and serious, same with Christopher Lee. I like that McKellan was able to go from the grand bombast of dueling with Saruman or facing down the Balrog, but also the quieter, gentler moments. He also has a “kinder” face than Connery or Lee.
>He would have been too stoic and serious, same with Christopher Lee
I think you're basing that off your now-perception of Gandalf as McKellan's more friendly performance.
We may never truly know the vision Jackson had in mind for Connery.
none of these traits being 'gentle' describe Gandalf. He would have been better as Lee due to the mystery of him. Gandalf is NOT a gay gentle grandfather performing emotional labor on hobbits. That is only the invention of the movie.
Perhaps, but I liked the interpretation, and how it bucked the “POWERFUL AND MYSTERIOUS WIZARD MAN” trope that had been pervasive in popular culture for decades by that point, admittedly in all likelihood inspired by Gandalf himself, but it helped to set him apart. Honestly, this thread is the first time I’ve ever seen that interpretation spoken of in a negative light.
none of these traits being 'gentle' describe Gandalf. He would have been better as Lee due to the mystery of him. Gandalf is NOT a gay gentle grandfather performing emotional labor on hobbits. That is only the invention of the movie.
Gandalf being equal parts silly, easily angered, wise and gentle was what the movie needed. If he was as grumpy and manipulative as he was in the Hobbit and LOTR, he'd be considered a gay fricking weirdo like Merlin in Excalibur. You just don't understand the language of cinema.
>Gandalf being equal parts silly, easily angered, wise and gentle was what the movie needed
Had it been Connery originally cast and McKellan being talked about, you'd say otherwise. You are again comparing Connery's would-be performance to how you know Gandalf now - aka subjective opinion.
none of these traits being 'gentle' describe Gandalf. He would have been better as Lee due to the mystery of him. Gandalf is NOT a gay gentle grandfather performing emotional labor on hobbits. That is only the invention of the movie.
Gandalf in the books is a lot more serious than in the Jackson films and I think Connery would've made a better Gandalf the White, who is basically like the Archangel Gabriel come to earth leading armies around. Lee would have been a better all rounder Gandalf though.
none of these traits being 'gentle' describe Gandalf. He would have been better as Lee due to the mystery of him. Gandalf is NOT a gay gentle grandfather performing emotional labor on hobbits. That is only the invention of the movie.
significantly better. McKellen played Gandalf like Dumbledore. He is NOT a gay grandfather figure. He is a dark sorcerer badass who is only tolerating the mortal realm.
Gandalf is grumpier in the book, but he definitely has the gentler qualities too. You paint a too one-sided a picture. And he is not really portrayed as a dark sorcerer badass until after returning, but rather as a guy whose immense task is constantly on the verge of breaking him, which is why he is so grumpy all the time. He only really becomes truly badass after returning (the balrog handily kicks his ass in the book before they fall), but this change is reflected in McKellen's acting as well, which is easily a high point of the movies.
Connery admitted he didn't understand the character or the story and at that point in his career was suffering from dementia and struggling to remember his lines, so no I doubt it would have been a better performance
As if it matters whose face is under all that hair and beard.
>He doesn't understand the impact of casting
>Zardalf
Connery should've been Saruman and for Christopher Lee, Gandalf like he originally wanted
My kino just got enhanced
>Sean Connery as Gandalf
>Jack Nicholson as Saruman
>Harrison Ford as Aragorn
>Leonardo DiCaprio as Frodo
>Joaquin Phoenix as Sam
Could have been kino.
Ford was pushing 60 back then
Aragorn was pushing 90
he didn't look 90 tho
Ford as Aragorn
DiCaprio as Frodo
Phoenix as Sam
All disgusting
2nd dumbest post I've read today
Gandalf the White?
GANDALF THE RHUBARB
>Marlon Brando as Denethor
>You're a wishard, Katnissh.*SLAP*
He would have been too stoic and serious, same with Christopher Lee. I like that McKellan was able to go from the grand bombast of dueling with Saruman or facing down the Balrog, but also the quieter, gentler moments. He also has a “kinder” face than Connery or Lee.
>He would have been too stoic and serious, same with Christopher Lee
I think you're basing that off your now-perception of Gandalf as McKellan's more friendly performance.
We may never truly know the vision Jackson had in mind for Connery.
Perhaps, but I liked the interpretation, and how it bucked the “POWERFUL AND MYSTERIOUS WIZARD MAN” trope that had been pervasive in popular culture for decades by that point, admittedly in all likelihood inspired by Gandalf himself, but it helped to set him apart. Honestly, this thread is the first time I’ve ever seen that interpretation spoken of in a negative light.
Gandalf being equal parts silly, easily angered, wise and gentle was what the movie needed. If he was as grumpy and manipulative as he was in the Hobbit and LOTR, he'd be considered a gay fricking weirdo like Merlin in Excalibur. You just don't understand the language of cinema.
You are too far gone to reason with.
That's not an argument dumbass
>Gandalf being equal parts silly, easily angered, wise and gentle was what the movie needed
Had it been Connery originally cast and McKellan being talked about, you'd say otherwise. You are again comparing Connery's would-be performance to how you know Gandalf now - aka subjective opinion.
Whether or not it would be “better” is entirely subjective in itself. So what are you arguing here?
Gandalf in the books is a lot more serious than in the Jackson films and I think Connery would've made a better Gandalf the White, who is basically like the Archangel Gabriel come to earth leading armies around. Lee would have been a better all rounder Gandalf though.
none of these traits being 'gentle' describe Gandalf. He would have been better as Lee due to the mystery of him. Gandalf is NOT a gay gentle grandfather performing emotional labor on hobbits. That is only the invention of the movie.
YOU SHANT PASS YA c**t
significantly better. McKellen played Gandalf like Dumbledore. He is NOT a gay grandfather figure. He is a dark sorcerer badass who is only tolerating the mortal realm.
Gandalf is grumpier in the book, but he definitely has the gentler qualities too. You paint a too one-sided a picture. And he is not really portrayed as a dark sorcerer badass until after returning, but rather as a guy whose immense task is constantly on the verge of breaking him, which is why he is so grumpy all the time. He only really becomes truly badass after returning (the balrog handily kicks his ass in the book before they fall), but this change is reflected in McKellen's acting as well, which is easily a high point of the movies.
>fly you foolsh
>At long last my magnum opus... I can die happy knowing I left behind all of which my career has been heading towards
Actually he wanted Peter O'Toole
Connery admitted he didn't understand the character or the story and at that point in his career was suffering from dementia and struggling to remember his lines, so no I doubt it would have been a better performance
>punch the damn keys fordo
Shadowfacsh, show ush the meaning of hashte
How many Hobbits and elves would he have raped?
It is literally impossible to rape an elf.
Enjoy.