The show actually sucks. I went back and watched it. It's fairly cringe-inducing. Probably the only good part, watching now, was the Turtles Forever movie for some fun nostalgia that wraps up thankfully quickly. Mind you, I haven't gone back and watched the movies or the first dozen or so episodes, which I remember to be somewhat better. The whole idea of "ninja turtle people" lost its appeal by the time I hit 15 or so, and I stopped following the series. I'm not much interested in the new TMNT so just let the kids enjoy their silly turtle cartoons.
Once the Mirage generation and the 80s audience generation die out the 2003 audience generation can take the reins for new versions
Except that doesn't work since unlike with Marvel and DC, the TMNT franchise is just like pushing 40 and the various versions were/are too close together, so a lot of the OG fans will have experienced all of it, and passed it down to their kids etc
What the frick? anon generational wars between tmnt fans are not a thing every time a new tmnt show comes out it is completely different from the last one, 87 has no significant influence over new versions like it happens with stuff like power rangers and pokemon, TMNT is just not that type of franchise, it has mass appeal and everybody knows him but the fanbase is pretty open to new things, it's only normalgays stuck in 87 that flip the frick out when some change reaches the news cycle
The "Cowabunga Pizza Turtles" phenomenon has been hard to escape. The eternal connection with pizza is a pretty strong indicator of 87's influence. The problem is that everyone after tries to overcorrect too hard by needing the turtles to be modernized to get away from the surfer dude lingo, which is how you get the Zoomer Turtles in Mutant Mayhem.
The farther we get from the 80s the more the surfer lingo helps establish the turtles over every other team of identical heroes. If they just talk normal then what's even the difference between them and other action cartoons? Ninja, pizza, cowabunga dude is the triangle of what makes the turtles.
> "act like real teenagers"
Will they be doing drugs and slinging racial slurs? The "real teenagers" excuse is so fricking dumb cause teenagers aren't a monolith.
87 is the most popular. You just have to accept that. It's like complaining that Kanto is ruining Pokemon. It was the peak of the series popularity. There's no getting past that. Not all iterations are equal. I've accepted that 03 turtles was nowhere near as popular as 87. It's the twentieth anniversary and no one gives a flying frick. I'm not going to be mad about it. It is what it is. I'll do my rewatch and enjoy it alone.
That was my TMNT growing up, I didn't watch it much. I think the best TMNT iterations are the movie and arcade games which are both based off of the 80s version
Yep, it was this one and the 1990 movie that I had on dvd thanks to the 2003 show. I knew there was an older one but didn’t really see it until years later. And a happy 20th anniversary to this show
I watched the 87 series as a child and this one as an adult, so even though the animation and action are objectively better, I still subjectively like 87 more.
First movie, Eastman & Laird comics, the 2D beat 'em up games. I grew up watching the '87 cartoon but those things I listed are the definitive Turtles experience for me.
This series sucks because it's obviously trying to be edgy but NOT allowed to go all out. And what happens when you make the villains much more serious and dangerous but your main characters are lamers who inconsistently think about about killing such dangerous villains? You get incompetent heroes. This is why Leonardo cut off Chrell's head but it was a plot twist revealing it was a robot suit so after that Leonardo never again tried to seriously kill the bastard. And then you have Donatello who in the bad future decides to kill Chrell but once he returns to the present he goes back to never considering killing Chrell.
And ultimately these turtles are losers. Every single major villain these turtles fail to defeat. This is the end result of trying to get serious but not sticking to it due to bad writing or censorship.
Every generation is entitled to feel disgust and embarrassment for the previous and following ones, anon.
Reporting in.
The show actually sucks. I went back and watched it. It's fairly cringe-inducing. Probably the only good part, watching now, was the Turtles Forever movie for some fun nostalgia that wraps up thankfully quickly. Mind you, I haven't gone back and watched the movies or the first dozen or so episodes, which I remember to be somewhat better. The whole idea of "ninja turtle people" lost its appeal by the time I hit 15 or so, and I stopped following the series. I'm not much interested in the new TMNT so just let the kids enjoy their silly turtle cartoons.
I will admit, I did like Rise.
I like both I grew up with both VHS tapes of 87 and 03 few years later on TV, I just wish 2003 wasn't in like limbo when it came to referencing it.
Grew up on both. Liked both.
I grew up watching 2003, but I have nothing against 1987. You guys are cool.
Can't we all just agree that modern TMNT suck ass and move on.
Once the Mirage generation and the 80s audience generation die out the 2003 audience generation can take the reins for new versions
Except that doesn't work since unlike with Marvel and DC, the TMNT franchise is just like pushing 40 and the various versions were/are too close together, so a lot of the OG fans will have experienced all of it, and passed it down to their kids etc
One could say we're still in the OG era as long as either or both Eastman and Laird are alive and actively involved
>And tell 87-ers that they're ruining the franchise for future generations.
how?
Because everything keeps falling back to it despite attempts to reimagine the franchise. It's like it can't be escaped as the one, true face of TMNT.
What the frick? anon generational wars between tmnt fans are not a thing every time a new tmnt show comes out it is completely different from the last one, 87 has no significant influence over new versions like it happens with stuff like power rangers and pokemon, TMNT is just not that type of franchise, it has mass appeal and everybody knows him but the fanbase is pretty open to new things, it's only normalgays stuck in 87 that flip the frick out when some change reaches the news cycle
The "Cowabunga Pizza Turtles" phenomenon has been hard to escape. The eternal connection with pizza is a pretty strong indicator of 87's influence. The problem is that everyone after tries to overcorrect too hard by needing the turtles to be modernized to get away from the surfer dude lingo, which is how you get the Zoomer Turtles in Mutant Mayhem.
The farther we get from the 80s the more the surfer lingo helps establish the turtles over every other team of identical heroes. If they just talk normal then what's even the difference between them and other action cartoons? Ninja, pizza, cowabunga dude is the triangle of what makes the turtles.
Try telling that to all the morons drooling over the Seth Rogen turtles because they "act like real teenagers"
> "act like real teenagers"
Will they be doing drugs and slinging racial slurs? The "real teenagers" excuse is so fricking dumb cause teenagers aren't a monolith.
87 is the most popular. You just have to accept that. It's like complaining that Kanto is ruining Pokemon. It was the peak of the series popularity. There's no getting past that. Not all iterations are equal. I've accepted that 03 turtles was nowhere near as popular as 87. It's the twentieth anniversary and no one gives a flying frick. I'm not going to be mad about it. It is what it is. I'll do my rewatch and enjoy it alone.
That was my TMNT growing up, I didn't watch it much. I think the best TMNT iterations are the movie and arcade games which are both based off of the 80s version
2003 is Fine Too
I watched the 87 series on TV as a little kid, but I don't remember one blessed thing about it.
I watched the 2003 series when I was older and enjoyed it enough to keep up with it, it's really my definitive vision of the series.
Yep, it was this one and the 1990 movie that I had on dvd thanks to the 2003 show. I knew there was an older one but didn’t really see it until years later. And a happy 20th anniversary to this show
I watched the 87 series as a child and this one as an adult, so even though the animation and action are objectively better, I still subjectively like 87 more.
To this very day i still find people online claiming the 87 version were the "true" turtles. 80s cartoons fans are like that.
Some 87 fans are moronic and still don't know the comics exist or refuse to acknowledge them.
I grew up with '87 but it was the 1st movie for me. Also, I still enjoyed the shit out of '03.
I have nostalgia for 03 but i totally get why 87 will be the face of the franchise for the rest of existence.
Where did the red sky seasons and the next mutation air?
Tried to watch the ‘87 turtles a few times, but it never really grabbed me the way the 90s movie and 03 turtles did
I watched episodes of this with my babysitter while imagining how it would be to kiss her
this just makes me miss saturday morning cartoons
>is the lead in one of the most successful movies of all time
>is never part of anything good ever again
Why did they do this to her?
First movie, Eastman & Laird comics, the 2D beat 'em up games. I grew up watching the '87 cartoon but those things I listed are the definitive Turtles experience for me.
This series sucks because it's obviously trying to be edgy but NOT allowed to go all out. And what happens when you make the villains much more serious and dangerous but your main characters are lamers who inconsistently think about about killing such dangerous villains? You get incompetent heroes. This is why Leonardo cut off Chrell's head but it was a plot twist revealing it was a robot suit so after that Leonardo never again tried to seriously kill the bastard. And then you have Donatello who in the bad future decides to kill Chrell but once he returns to the present he goes back to never considering killing Chrell.
And ultimately these turtles are losers. Every single major villain these turtles fail to defeat. This is the end result of trying to get serious but not sticking to it due to bad writing or censorship.
I'm posting to tell you you're a giant homosexual and you're mom's a prostitute.