>Crime happens >Batman arrives at crime scene >Police is already there >Comissioner Gordon comes out of nowhere >"Batman, come see this." >Lets Batman do whatever the frick he wants and forces the rest of the cops to report his findings to the freak in a bat halloween costume.
Great fricking detective work right there.
Was PTA a protege? I thought he just was the emergency director for Praire Home Companion in case Altman kicked the bucket mid-filming
In terms of Altman disciples, for me it's Alan Rudolph
PTA straight up worked under and for Altman on a few projects as well as tutoring him (among some other) dudes about how to make a film
It's why PTA is one of the better technical filmmakers of that late 90s era from the USA however he lacked the kind of humor and skepticism that Altman had
A lot of his early work specifically apes a lot of scenes, shots and even whole characters from Altman
His first "original" film was ironically his Pynchon adaptation of Inherent Vice
just didn't buy the whole character of Bud. He's edgy, rough and short tempered. Yet he acts like a massive pussy with a soft spot for some prostitute trying to stand up for her like he's some paragon of virtue. He does something similar involving a suspect or was it a witness? never really felt the need to rewatch it. It's just a polished stereotype of the LA police-detective scene from 50s. Chinatown on the other hand is a masterpiece
sean munger (historian) has a really good video on watergate. obviously there is tons of shady shit that goes down in politics, but watergate was a president blatantly ordering a breaking and entering/theft and getting caught red handed. not to mention it was all so clandestine and sketchy it just made nixon look like a shifty conniving weasel
>ordering a break-in that breaks some glass: bad >ordering a pointless military invasion that gets 1000s of killed: no problem
I hate politics so much its unreal
They took campaign donations from Nixon supporters and then laundered the money through a Mexican bank to make the money hard to track. They then used this money to pay people under the counter to conduct espionage against Nixon's political enemies and to try and sabotage their election chances. Nixon and his cronies then lied under oath when confronted about this information and tried to destroy evidence. The watergate office break in was just a small part of the entire scandal.
It was the one time they actually got caught and, for some of the participants at least, held accountable. The scandal also launched several years of investigations and hearings into the CIA and FBI which revealed all the glowops we know so well today.
the president knowingly broke the law, then blatantly used the power of his office to try to cover it up and fired anyone in the justice department who wouldn't act unethically until he found some hacks who would. He also recorded himself openly discussing his crimes.
I don't get it, i read about it a little bit and the cases against the church started in the 80s and they had already been sued numerous times by the 2000s. Why do they act as it was surprising?
I thought it was because the church had covered up the sex abuse cases by handling it internally? My (female) friend was touched inappropriately by one of her sunday school teachers (along with other girls) and the only thing that happened is that the church handled it and sent him away, presumably without reporting it because he could still walk around a free man.
this movie's existence is disingenuous
it was moralizing about something that had already been dealt with decades ago
a "safe" attack target
you'd never see anything like that investigating media lying about public figures, media sex scandals or open political quid pro quo set within the last thirty years
the Catholic Church was always a safe target to the liberal media. The fact that 90% of all the priest kiddle diddlers were also active homos is carefully hidden by them though, i remember once a Pope brought it up and the media went insane kek.
It's also bias due to the stigma of men ever talking about their trauma
At the same time a lot of women are taught "it's normal" for them to be harassed/abused as kids
All thanks to the church banning priests from being able to marry
>t's also bias due to the stigma of men ever talking about their trauma >At the same time a lot of women are taught "it's normal" for them to be harassed/abused as kids >All thanks to the church banning priests from being able to marry
what are you talking about?
It has nothing to do with what i said. The truth is that by the time the movie came out it was a non issue against a safe target and the movie was average in every way. The original investigation was also overrated, as it was already a known issue. They just started to pump out news about pervy priest. It was already old by the time because the cases sharply declined after the 80s If they had printed this out in the 70s that would have been useful journalism.
>anon attempts to defend the church's attitude toward pedophile priests by engaging in the exact behavior that made the church look bad (wanting it downplayed, taking heat off it, minimization)
kino
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i have actually read about the issue. Most of the cases were from the 60s 70s and early 80s. And people started suing the Church by the 90s with several paedos priest going to jail. There is a Hollywood movie from the 90s where Edward Norton is raped by a priest and he kills him . I just don't like this particular movie, i think they overexaggerate how clueless people were about it. The cat was out of the bag by the 90s.
nah, the Pope in the mid 2000s said it would be better not to hire that many gays as priest to be safe because they had committed most of the kiddle diddling ( this is actually ture, most of them were active gays) and the media went crazy kek. It was not formulated as an excuse, it was an internal thing within the Church.
>It was not formulated as an excuse
My man... you just used it as one in this very thread.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i did not use it as an excuse, i just point out how hypocritical the media are. They have no problem going after people they dont like, but when it's a group they like ( being democrats, gays trans etc) they protect them. The truth is that they were catholic priest they were paedos but a lot of them ( a majority) were also gay, you are just trying to act dumb about the last part because you dont like it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you are just trying to act dumb about the last part because you don't like it.
I'm not at all. I'm laughing at the fact that you *did* trot it out as an excuse, and you're still doing it now. Of course a guy touching a boy is "gay", he's touching a boy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When I am saying gay i actually mean gay, they were also attracted and fricking adult men. The strictly paedo ones were the worst in number of victims per perpetrator but not the most common.
the catholic church in the "liberal" 60s decided to go with the zeitgeist of the day and allow homos to join as priests, the kid diddling followed, it's not that hard to understand
>it was moralizing about something that had already been dealt with decades ago
Tons of movies do this wtf? >like that investigating media lying about public figures, media sex scandals or open political quid pro quo set within the last thirty years
Tons of movies do this wtf?
>Tons of movies do this wtf?
And i shit on them too
But sometimes it is used as metaphor/allegory for a modern/current issue in which case it's based >Tons of movies do this wtf?
No
The media itself is sacrasanct for almost forty years now, journos are heroes in every film, the last movie to even challenge that at all was Richard israeliteell, which is Clint autism
They even throttled the release of Chadwick Boseman's last good movie from wide release because it disproved the #BelieveAllWomen shit [Marshall Thurgood defending a black man accused of rape by a white woman]
As to quid pro quo, no they don't
They only talk about "bad actors" and not the game itself
That film was shit.
Oh
>Crime happens
>Batman arrives at crime scene
>Police is already there
>Comissioner Gordon comes out of nowhere
>"Batman, come see this."
>Lets Batman do whatever the frick he wants and forces the rest of the cops to report his findings to the freak in a bat halloween costume.
Great fricking detective work right there.
absolute garbage. the kind of thing you would only recommend to your enemies, so that they might waste their precious time.
One of the best movies ever
Kino, watched recently. Also surprise Arnold strip out of nowhere, too funny
Altman's a fantastic director that I'm glad Armond White turned me onto
Way better than some of his descendants and protege PTA
Was PTA a protege? I thought he just was the emergency director for Praire Home Companion in case Altman kicked the bucket mid-filming
In terms of Altman disciples, for me it's Alan Rudolph
PTA straight up worked under and for Altman on a few projects as well as tutoring him (among some other) dudes about how to make a film
It's why PTA is one of the better technical filmmakers of that late 90s era from the USA however he lacked the kind of humor and skepticism that Altman had
A lot of his early work specifically apes a lot of scenes, shots and even whole characters from Altman
His first "original" film was ironically his Pynchon adaptation of Inherent Vice
I feel like the true successor to Altman is David Gordon Green, Jody Hill, and Danny McBride.
Altman can literally change your life. Like just nested moments inside of moments.
Klute and The Parallax View, the other two films in Pakula's paranoia trilogy
The Andromeda Strain
The Insider
Parallax is a hidden gem.
good picks, Capricorn One fits well with these too
The Quiller Memorandum
The Odessa File
The Medusa Touch
The Osterman Weekend
boring movie
Inherent vice
The Manchurian candidate remake
Trash. Doesn't belong in this thread.
based. LA Confidential is one of the most overrated movies of all time
just didn't buy the whole character of Bud. He's edgy, rough and short tempered. Yet he acts like a massive pussy with a soft spot for some prostitute trying to stand up for her like he's some paragon of virtue. He does something similar involving a suspect or was it a witness? never really felt the need to rewatch it. It's just a polished stereotype of the LA police-detective scene from 50s. Chinatown on the other hand is a masterpiece
what the frick is going on with her hairline in the reflection
Best kino ever
I don't get the fuss around watergate. The parties spy on eachother big whoop.
They got caught doing it, and then tried to cover it.
sean munger (historian) has a really good video on watergate. obviously there is tons of shady shit that goes down in politics, but watergate was a president blatantly ordering a breaking and entering/theft and getting caught red handed. not to mention it was all so clandestine and sketchy it just made nixon look like a shifty conniving weasel
>ordering a break-in that breaks some glass: bad
>ordering a pointless military invasion that gets 1000s of killed: no problem
I hate politics so much its unreal
They took campaign donations from Nixon supporters and then laundered the money through a Mexican bank to make the money hard to track. They then used this money to pay people under the counter to conduct espionage against Nixon's political enemies and to try and sabotage their election chances. Nixon and his cronies then lied under oath when confronted about this information and tried to destroy evidence. The watergate office break in was just a small part of the entire scandal.
It was the one time they actually got caught and, for some of the participants at least, held accountable. The scandal also launched several years of investigations and hearings into the CIA and FBI which revealed all the glowops we know so well today.
the president knowingly broke the law, then blatantly used the power of his office to try to cover it up and fired anyone in the justice department who wouldn't act unethically until he found some hacks who would. He also recorded himself openly discussing his crimes.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Director's Cut)
this kino right here
I don't get it, i read about it a little bit and the cases against the church started in the 80s and they had already been sued numerous times by the 2000s. Why do they act as it was surprising?
the movie is not set in 2015
I thought it was because the church had covered up the sex abuse cases by handling it internally? My (female) friend was touched inappropriately by one of her sunday school teachers (along with other girls) and the only thing that happened is that the church handled it and sent him away, presumably without reporting it because he could still walk around a free man.
this movie's existence is disingenuous
it was moralizing about something that had already been dealt with decades ago
a "safe" attack target
you'd never see anything like that investigating media lying about public figures, media sex scandals or open political quid pro quo set within the last thirty years
the Catholic Church was always a safe target to the liberal media. The fact that 90% of all the priest kiddle diddlers were also active homos is carefully hidden by them though, i remember once a Pope brought it up and the media went insane kek.
It's also bias due to the stigma of men ever talking about their trauma
At the same time a lot of women are taught "it's normal" for them to be harassed/abused as kids
All thanks to the church banning priests from being able to marry
>t's also bias due to the stigma of men ever talking about their trauma
>At the same time a lot of women are taught "it's normal" for them to be harassed/abused as kids
>All thanks to the church banning priests from being able to marry
what are you talking about?
It has nothing to do with what i said. The truth is that by the time the movie came out it was a non issue against a safe target and the movie was average in every way. The original investigation was also overrated, as it was already a known issue. They just started to pump out news about pervy priest. It was already old by the time because the cases sharply declined after the 80s If they had printed this out in the 70s that would have been useful journalism.
>anon attempts to defend the church's attitude toward pedophile priests by engaging in the exact behavior that made the church look bad (wanting it downplayed, taking heat off it, minimization)
kino
i have actually read about the issue. Most of the cases were from the 60s 70s and early 80s. And people started suing the Church by the 90s with several paedos priest going to jail. There is a Hollywood movie from the 90s where Edward Norton is raped by a priest and he kills him . I just don't like this particular movie, i think they overexaggerate how clueless people were about it. The cat was out of the bag by the 90s.
>no see they weren't just pedos, they were gays!
>this makes us look better!
wat
nah, the Pope in the mid 2000s said it would be better not to hire that many gays as priest to be safe because they had committed most of the kiddle diddling ( this is actually ture, most of them were active gays) and the media went crazy kek. It was not formulated as an excuse, it was an internal thing within the Church.
>It was not formulated as an excuse
My man... you just used it as one in this very thread.
i did not use it as an excuse, i just point out how hypocritical the media are. They have no problem going after people they dont like, but when it's a group they like ( being democrats, gays trans etc) they protect them. The truth is that they were catholic priest they were paedos but a lot of them ( a majority) were also gay, you are just trying to act dumb about the last part because you dont like it.
>you are just trying to act dumb about the last part because you don't like it.
I'm not at all. I'm laughing at the fact that you *did* trot it out as an excuse, and you're still doing it now. Of course a guy touching a boy is "gay", he's touching a boy.
When I am saying gay i actually mean gay, they were also attracted and fricking adult men. The strictly paedo ones were the worst in number of victims per perpetrator but not the most common.
the catholic church in the "liberal" 60s decided to go with the zeitgeist of the day and allow homos to join as priests, the kid diddling followed, it's not that hard to understand
Ever considered that mandatory celibacy just doesn't work?
>it was moralizing about something that had already been dealt with decades ago
Tons of movies do this wtf?
>like that investigating media lying about public figures, media sex scandals or open political quid pro quo set within the last thirty years
Tons of movies do this wtf?
>Tons of movies do this wtf?
And i shit on them too
But sometimes it is used as metaphor/allegory for a modern/current issue in which case it's based
>Tons of movies do this wtf?
No
The media itself is sacrasanct for almost forty years now, journos are heroes in every film, the last movie to even challenge that at all was Richard israeliteell, which is Clint autism
They even throttled the release of Chadwick Boseman's last good movie from wide release because it disproved the #BelieveAllWomen shit [Marshall Thurgood defending a black man accused of rape by a white woman]
As to quid pro quo, no they don't
They only talk about "bad actors" and not the game itself
and there go the goalposts
They're not goalposts anon
They're literal examples
But you lack counters because you touch yourself at night
>They're not goalposts anon
reread your posts
Sorry anon but you can't uncoom those drawers
I accept your concession. Good night pal.
Literally "The Investigation"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9112152/.
Also memories of murder - but everyone already know this one.
Hardcore.
falling down but good
No, this movie is nothing like falling down. idk how you even got that
The Long Goodbye
Last Kiss, Big Lebowski, Inherent Vice and Under the Silver Lake are LA burnout gumshoe legend.
Gotta check out Last kiss, but I love all of those movies mentioned so I think I'll like it
Are you talking about Last Kiss with Zach Braff?
It's more political/ethical thriller though
I frickin love this movie and Sidow's speech
Mannkino
She Said (2022) 😉
Detective story series
Yup
more like glowBlack folk glow themselves into a cia coup.
Still waiting on the sequel
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0071970/