> has shitty ideas on his own
> happens to fall on H.R.Giger right when his art was ripe for public consumption with Alien
> re-writes Blade Runner with Harrison Ford's character being a robot and everyone hates it because it doesn't even make sense in the story
> his credits as a writer are practically 0
> most credits are as a producer
> basically a businessman
i.e. shit director; great businessman; but also a lucky bastard
Nah
Your obsession with this Director is bizzare.
So is your spelling
his name is ridley scott
he's a mercenary, not good enough to be considered an auteur but also not a corporate disney plant
Yes, but why is he a mercenary. Did he get lucky with Alien perhaps?
He's also a c**t. I saw him in that round table with Tarantino and others and he was absolutely insufferable. And the others weren't some kind of b-listers to be treated like that.
based ridley dabbing on redditor sensibilities
> tarantino is reddit
> probably the last director of all generations alive who still makes non-Disney-esque productions.
you're stupid
is reddit
no shit??
reddit also has a Cinemaphile sub that praises Cinemaphile,
Cinemaphile literally has /lgbt/
if you stretch it everything is "reddit"(or "Cinemaphile").
that's exactly something a redditor would say
> Cinemaphile is just nazis like me bro
>>>/hm/
He wasn't a c**t at all in that. Source: I watched it.
He's just old and speaks directly what he thinks, and has done a lot. He wasn't insulting or rude towards anyone. He was maybe overly talkative though, but that doesn't make him a c**t.
is that table from the Hollywood reporter? exactly what did ridley say?
frick israelites and jannies, hang all trannies, black lives matter
he's being a c**t, this isn't "stern old wisdom".
it's not like tarantino and others are "young"
how is he being a c**t?
by being a c**t, if you know you know, got to not be a robot.
You're the antisocial one if you think he was being a c**t. People around the table clearly liked him.
Do you suffer by a form of autism? Those are all extremely successful directors who were on a job on camera. They are not going to personally attack him for you to get a confirmation he was being a c**t.
Ridley is also a professional talking in front of cameras, but you were able to deduce his c**tness like I'm able to make deductions about the others. The vibe I got from the others is that they liked him. I didn't say they would start literally deriding him for "being a c**t", I was forming my opinion on their general behavior and interactions, obviously.
You're the one who can't explain how he was so clearly being a c**t. No-one agrees with you so we must all have autism. You probably just hate his movies and project negative qualities onto his behavior and misreading it.
But enough of this gay banter.
I didn't even know who he was when I first watched, that's obnoxious behavior. Don't ask me: show it to people who you trust (and are not autists).
LMAO
>this guy is a c**t because I was too stupid to even know who he was
LMFAO even
ridley's insults were pretty mild
>it's not like tarantino and others are "young"
Stop being so fricking obtuse. For the industry they are in, they are. Tarantino having teenager wet dreams about getting BBC'd when Scott was directing The Duellists.
Frick off. His ticket to success was a film kids in the 90s made a meme because of Giger's art.
There's nothing that moron does that is "superior" artistically to Tarantino.
>Alien became successful in the 90s
What the FRICK are you talking about????? What the FRICK?? This is some absurdly moron Black folkhit, what the SHIT
>t. fricking moron who doesn't understand northern English humour
yeah Tony Scott is better
I see this often but comparing films Ridley made more movies
Ridley peaked early in his career while Tony was consistently hammering out kino until the end
>Tones
>Last Boy Scout, Days of Thunder, Man on Fire, Crimson Tide, True Romance, Enemy of the State, The Taking of Pelham 123, Unstoppable, Beverly Hills Cop II
>Riddy
>Gladiator, Blade Runner, maybe Matchstick Men
I see a bunch of generic action movies anyone in the 80s or 90s could've directed and True Romance. ZERO all time movies like Alien or Blade Runner.
The right Scott died homosexuals
OP here. The fact he ONLY has Alien and Blade Runner as true originals is what is suspicious; coincidences can happen; I think he just got lucky way more than other "artists".
The main indication here is H.R.Giger's art; the MAIN reason Alien is famous is kids back in the day were impressed by the alien design; that's all Giger.
Dude the Alien's barely in the movie
There's a lot more to it for it to become as huge a deal as it was, it was the 5th highest grossing movie of the year, it beat Apocalypse Now and James Bond that year but lost to Superman, Amityville, Rocky, and Star Trek
Trust me. I grew up in that era. The meme is mainly all of kids and teens being impressed by the fricking badass Alien.
>Trust me
Nah, lmao, no thanks
Even smart enough to kill himself before it was too late
He is a good director but a bad writer
Yes he's a hack that got famous too soon and lived off that one time fame all his career.
He's not a hack though. He has more good films under his belt than bad ones.
I'm not so sure about that. If you're thrown piles of money at you: you have to be kinda stupid to make really bad movies.
I think it's combination of luck but also he's a good businessman; e.g. even if he doesn't write well: he usually picks successful franchises.
e.g. he did Hannibal; that's practically a cash grab; he piggybacked on a franchise and was careful to not frick it up much and had a pile of money to do it.
what are you on about
motherfricker was in his early 40s when Alien came out
Ridley is the anti-thesis of that, he grinded it out in the ad business before he became successful as a movie director
yeah he's not a writer and he's not much of an idea man, but he's a visual genius
his movies are uniquely atmospheric and epic in scale
he also kind of revolutionized the way to light a scene, using a more naturalistic approach that was unconventional at the time
the guy never stopped delivering what he was capable of delivering, that is: good looking movies
he just couldn't always find great content to match his artistic vision
the takes I see on this guy are uniquely terrible and ignorant
He's an artist
1. Giger and the other artists who headed Alien were poached from Jodorowsky's Dune team.
2. The lead's a replicant in the original Blade Runner novel. There's an entire hidden department of replicant blade runners hunting troublemakers to hide the fact they can fully pass as human from mankind.
>releases a Director's Cut to justify the movie not being shit
This isn't even kind of unfair.
His first film, The Duellists, came about because he had making hundreds of commercials waiting for someone to give him a big break and no one did. So he decided to just make his own film and, since he couldn't write, he basically randomly picked a book where the copyright had expired and paid some nobody to adapt it into a script. He somehow then got a producer to fund him a million bucks.
So at this point, he's directed zero films, he's paid almost nothing and in return gotten a million dollars/pounds in funding for historical film where he tried to rip off Barry Lyndon's aesthetic and paid no attention to whether the script was any good.
Fluke doesn't begin to cover it
yep, I'm pretty sure that guy had a talent with money
I admire him for that part
>Directs (Mostly) shitty flicks
>Gets millions
I kneel
not sure that kind of "director" is even an individual, mostly names of the marketing machine, pretending to have control on anything.
yeah, no ridley scott is a great director.
so is Michael bay
>Fricks young actress tight puss
Too lucky
unhealthy coomer
Ridley knew what he could do(slick looking shots), what he couldn't do(write, world build, blah blah), and who exactly was the most qualified to carry out what he could not do.(you're dumb, OP. Ridley was a great director at one point and you're, to quote the kids, coping.
post one example of a kind of shot that he invented.
(You)
It's a good question. Steven Spielberg invented a whole style of direction. What did he do?
that autistic pedophile didn't invent anything on his own
If you can watch Alien 1979 and not notice that every single shot is perfect for that exact moment in the story, you have zero ability to read a film and should change majors
He's the quintessential professional director. He made tons of commercials, got really good at it and decided to get into movies. If the script/collaborators are good, he can make the film look great, if not, then its just another dogshit ridley. Fundamentally, he lacks awareness.
>MUH plot
Back to r/movies you go
He's way, WAY too into androids. They're not thay interesting anymore dude
>Alien
>Blade Runner
>Gladiator
>Kingdom of Heaven
>Black Hawk Down
Yeah, nah
Just with those first two he became possibly the most influential genre director ever. Spielberg and Carpenter are also huge but the number of Alien ripoffs they made is insane
>Ignoring Verhoeven
Dude Verhoeven's got one massively influential title. Yeah, it's great, but it's only one. Scott's only got two but they're gigantic. Spielberg had Jaws, Indy, Close Encounters and E.T., all dramatically influential but still not as influential together as Alien and BR. Carpenter kick-started the slasher craze of the 80s singlehandedly (despite not always necessarily influencing the tone of them), and Escape from NY was a bigger hit and influence then than we really realize today. There was a whole cottage industry in Italy if making knockoffs of it. Really you should be chiding me for forgetting Cameron. Aliens and Terminator were practically as big as Ridley's movies worldwide. (But then again there wouldn't be any Aliens without Alien, so Ridley's still back on top)
Ah frick I'm forgetting Mad Max
Now don't know what to say. There's probably as many Mad Max ripoffs as Alien ones
>Jon Carpenter and his influence beyond the thing
I need other examples
Like I said, Halloween and Escape from NY
Thing was actually a flop when it came out
Gladiator's mediocre.
>when you’re a contrarian but also a midwit
>Post the luckiest Director of all time
Taka Waititi. Ruins every story and character, but still he gets high profile jobs.
>~~*lucky*~~
Gladiator says otherwise
Gladiator is good DESPITE the plot, Crowe and Phoenix carried it hard(Oliver Reed too) and the plot is basically a potpourri of classic 50s movies.
The story is all over the place, and the end is just fantasy:
>After Commodus death, all went well and Rome returned to be a Republic
LOL WUT
What about the Gladiator?
luck had nothing to do with how well directed alien, duelists, blade runner are
hes shit now though yes
I thought the luckiest director in Hollywood was George Lucas.
well I have to admit, lucas is a good candidate
I like how the non-humanoid aliens of the original are extremely bad looking and kitsch but the fandom is so obsessed with it that they still use that aesthetic.
Villanueva doesn't write either and everyone here is riding his French wiener
>Dune is a 2021 American epic science fiction film directed by Denis Villeneuve from a screenplay by Villeneuve, Jon Spaihts, and Eric Roth
>By May 2018, Villeneuve finished a first draft of the script.
>Incendies is a 2010 Canadian drama film directed by Denis Villeneuve, who co-wrote the screenplay with Valérie Beaugrand-Champagne.
>In adapting the screenplay, Villeneuve, while keeping the story structure and characters, replaced "all" the dialogue, even envisioning a silent film, abandoning the idea due to expense.
Why lie like that?
Blade Runner's special effects still hold up in a big way to this day; without Scott that film would have never reached as high as it did.
Ridley is literally the litmus test of how shitty Hollywood became in years due to how everyone BUT the directors is now handpicked by the israeli producers.
>directors of photography, artists, writers, screenwriters etc. are great and full of good ideas:
>Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator
>2008 writers' strike -> Rise of the made for TV shitters:
>Robin Hood, Prometheus, Prometheus 2 - The Shittening, The last sjw duel
His directing abilities haven't changed, his collaborators did, for the worst.
What happened to the writers back then? don't they hire them anymore?
they dared to ask for more money, can you believe it? More money!
Basically in 2008 the Writers' guild of America went on a huge strike due to working condition and being constantly israeliteed out by hollywood israelites, the israelites won by keeping only the most faithful bootlicking shitters like Lindelof, who still keeps getting jobs despite being the worst writer in the history of writers, or the GoT shitters, and this is how we got to roided, quipping tv tier actors in spandex being the most anticipated release of the year.
Also other professions got the same treatment, have you ever wondered why even silly comedies like Rush Hour 1 look better than huge fricking 150+ million movies today? All the good directors of photography, sound etc. got replaced with TV shitters by nepotism.
Offfff
This is the most astute summary I've read on the decline of film in the last 15 years
>litmus
Here we go again with this. Don't you have anti abortion threads to post?
??
I'm an ESL and it's a very popular figure of speech to use when you want to say "example" or something like that. Who the frick talks about abortions on the television and films board?
Gladiator is one of those 3rd rate period drama films that Hollywood comes up with from time to time. It most likely was buried under a pile of scripts in some office in Beverly hills.
The thing with ridley is he was an ad director for hire and most likely had to hustle a lot early in career. Even Alien feels like a tight b-horror flick with a big budget. That's exactly what the creators of the Alien story said.
He's essentially a for hire gun like a lot of directors with some good aesthetic sensibilities. He was massively lucky to be surrounded by genius designers and cinematographers and writers in his early days. For all the hate that James Cameron sometimes gets he's a true movie psycho. He loves that medium like his kid. Both Cameron and Ridley were massively lucky to be one in a million but the difference is Cameron once ate minimum calorie diet and lived on minimum wage. A rare case of a starving artist actually making it mega big.
Ridley was a great choice for the first Alien film. Fox should have stopped consulting him after that. Every time he's dipped his toes in the franchise since then he's ruined things. David Fincher tried and failed hard, Cameron was going to do another one but AVP fricked that up, Blomkamp attempted to get things going with his Alien film but failed mainly because of Scott's input to the studio. Ridley is the first person people go to when any proposal of an Alien film is brought up and I think that alone is something that should be looked at.
franchises should die to begin with it, they are money milking machines for normie manchildren.
do you really need more than 3 Star Wars films?
>describes him being a shit writer
>"he is... le bad director!"
Fricking smoothbrained homosexual. Ridley is a talented director and I'll readily shit on him for the Deckard-Replicant bullshit he insisted upon.
I could do a serious analysis on that, but he's not literally a director though is he? He is part of a machine that creates movies in a factory and his "direction" has an impact similar to a "director"'s impact on Disney capeshit #4312
>he's not a real director!
You sound like such a fricking homosexual right now. Yes, he's a mercenary. And he always does a solid job on the directing front even when the movie is shit due to scripts and what the studio is hiring to do.
You are stupid. If you admit most of them are part of a machine, why do you think the movie depends on who either of them gets to direct anyway?
>the film industry is... a industry!
Great revelation you've come to. Ridley being part of a machine doesn't change the fact he's a solid, professional director. If you want to spout some bullshit about how you have more respect for the artsy auteurs rather than a mercenary like Scott, so be it, but don't persist with this 'he is NOT a real director!!' bullshit. If you've ever seen BCS
is right on the money for likening you to a character screaming about how someone else who passed the bar isn't a real lawyer.
What bizarre fricking take is this? That a director has to be a greater writer, concept artist, etc. to constitute as a solid director? That film is not an collaborative process and begins and ends with one man carrying it all on his shoulders? No, homosexual, Ridley is a director, and when he stays in his lane he is a very good.
point is you will never prove that hack is better director than Tarantino
That's a totally different conversation you fricking autist. I was calling out you or someone else for talking shit about Ridley assuming the 'old man talks to youngsters' role by referring to how young Tarantino was when Ridley made Duellists in 77.
>point is you will never prove that hack is better director than Tarantino
Yes, a person could considering a director is a very specific thing and we can compare the scope and scale of the sets they've had to work with, diversity of stuff they've had to direct, etc. You still a moron that doesn't fully understand what a DIRECTOR is and are conflating it with being a CREATIVE. Sure, whether you like Tarantino or not, he's definitely more of a creative than Scott given that he writes his films and is more of an auteur but that's different from assessing merits as a director.
>YOU'RE NOT A REAL DIRECTOR! JESUS CHRIS, RIDLEY, NOT GOING TO FILM SCHOOL! YOU'RE LIKE A CHIMP WITH A CAMERA!
Once more for all the midwit gays that insist Ridley is le bad director:
's an excellent director but not a writer and does make questionable decisions in this area. I think original BR mogs the ever living shit out of 2049 and Ridley's directing was excellent but I still think it was stupid to shove in the mystery box nonsense about Deckard potentially being a replicant, and Harrison Ford, David Peoples (who's influence on 2049 was sorely missed), etc. agree. He's also a mercenary, in the sense that the studio hires him to DIRECT films they want made, not some arsty fartsy auteur. I find more often than not people that shit on Ridley as a bad DIRECTOR talk out of their ass and don't fully understand how good he is when he stays in his lane.
I won't let you get away with your mistake.
>luckiest Director
George Lucas, Ryan Johnson and JJ Abrams
Ryan is almost the inverse. They give him big franchises and rapes them. But in small personal movies he's actually good.
JJ Abrams is probably just a tool of the machine.
Polanski has iconic films in each decades since the 60's
>everyone hates it
Not true. Plenty of pseuds liked it.
I thought I was on the fence, and then I realized it's even a plothole. It makes no sense to turn him into an android.
It absolutely ruins the end of the movie to have him be an android. The only people who like it are the braindead "OMG EPIC TWIST" homosexuals.
proof he's just a M. Night Shyamalan, with slightly more luck at his seed movies.
One word: Gladiator. Otherwise you might have been correct.
Did the hateboner for Ridley begin with the dicksucking for Denis and this board's very specific love of 2049? Curious if there's a correlation. I've seen 2049 fans damn near froth at the mouth at the mention of Ridley's name.
It start with Prometheus
The Prometheus trilogy was altered to appease Alien fans. We were denied kino.
Ridley throwing back to the classic hollywood christian adjacent epics like Ben-Hur, incredible
>all this mad shit planned
>fans complain about no Xenos despite it being a prequel
>"Oh bugger it, have your Xenos and frick off."
We get what we fricking deserve.
Zoomers who've only watched his Alien prequels.
Secret hack. His movies live and die by the script.
I prefer his brother Tony. Tony just got the 2000s, in a similar way that Michael Mann did. Everything is at 2x speed. Something about his films during that period are masculine and visually poetic, men going through shit on LCD screens.
This freemason fricker right here watched his two brothers killed for Moloch to remain relevant and in power in the film industry.
grow up, manchild
Ridley is a god king director nobody has made as many movies alive as him
He's an exceptional director. His eye for shooting a scene is impeccable. He just needs to stay away from writing scripts.
The Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut is one of the greatest piece of kino ever made. I refuse to believe that this guy is a hack. He probably just has his moments every now and then.
The thing with Ridley these days is that he's achieved everything he wanted and is literally just directing films for the frick of it now. He couldn't give a shit who he pisses off. Every now and then, he'll do a project he really cares for like The Last Duel, but he's mainly in it for the shits and giggles. That much is clear when you watch his interviews.
The real question is does Ridley really owe us anything at this point? Guy made two timeless sci-fi movies and a dozen other lesser classics, he's more than earned the right to just dick around until he goes into hospice
Personally, I'm happy for the guy to do whatever the frick he likes. He's old, he's raked in the dollarydoos and he's made a lot of my favorite films. He's earned it.
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