Powers in western comics:
>superman rip off
>speedster
>cosmic being that shoot generic energy blasts
Powers in manga/anime:
>bomb is planted into a host to conceal original user identity; it activates upon revealing his secret, causing a lethal explosion. It then triggers a temporal loop, rewinding time by about an hour, with only the host retaining memory of previous loops.
>power alters reality within his Territory, enforcing rules primarily related to language. Breaking these rules leads to severe consequences, including the loss of one's soul. He can also prevent violence within his territory but risks his own soul if he speaks the Taboo word.
>power to connect with targets like a voodoo doll, influencing their movements and perception. By mimicking weapon gestures and generating specific numbers, he creates illusory weapons that cause real damage to the target's mind, leaving others untouched. Those affected may suffer a curse, ensuring every choice leads to failure if they survive the technique's effects.
Really makes you think.
I remember in a manga someone having the power to buff the strength of everyone but herself and she used it on some soldiers that were wilding guns to make them accidentally break their own guns with their increased strength. Pretty cash money. Also who's that b***h?
>https://toarumajutsunoindex.fandom.com/wiki/Shin%27enkouji_Rurikakesu
Here you go, you are lucky I also read Railgun
This all sound too convoluted and fricking boring
Superman isn't cool just because he's a god
Batman isn't cool just because he's rich
>This all sound too convoluted and fricking boring
Not op but no, even if based on visuals alone, anything is more interesting to read/watch than just lasers. Someone having the power to control calcium which allows him to control the calcium in the earth or his own teeth alone is a very simple ability yet more entertaining to watch than a lot of usual superhero generic abilities.
>Superman isn't cool just because he's a god
>Batman isn't cool just because he's rich
No shit. But this has nothing to do with anything.
>This all sound too convoluted and fricking boring
That's how manga pads out fights.
Nah. The first one was Kira Yoshikage and the power was basically an excuse to have one hell of a build up to the final battle.
>doesn't even include the best anime power
https://clips.twitch.tv/CalmInquisitiveChinchillaDendiFace-_LKbIyGiLzqbsjv2
It's not manga that's good, it's comics that are bad.
We used to have really creative stories and powers. Remember Shadow Man? The guy who got infused with the powers of a voodoo mask and could turn into a spectral shade and command the dead and cast curses? No of course you don't. When was the last time we even heard the words voodoo, shamanism, etc.? Now it's just "clean" magic and sorcery, and that's barely brought up anymore.
>Shadowman
Commit ritual suicide, become and immortal specter.
I'm gonna be real.
I DO remember Shadowman. But I only remember it because of the video game that came out in the 90's. I didn't even know that game was based off a comic book until the 2000's.
I read the first few issues of the first run and it was bad.
>power alters reality within his Territory, enforcing rules primarily related to language. Breaking these rules leads to severe consequences, including the loss of one's soul. He can also prevent violence within his territory but risks his own soul if he speaks the Taboo word.
is he of the The Knights Who Say "Ni!"?
isn't that just a necromancer?
Never read the comics but I did play the game as a kid. I even own the Remastered edition on Steam that has a ton of new content
>When was the last time we even heard the words voodoo, shamanism, etc.?
I dunno, Punk Mambo?
>It's not manga that's good, it's comics that are bad.
Bingo.
I will never understand weebs wanking off to moronic overwritten powers.
Because it's fricking cool.
Both
are correct.
No, it's not. It's just moronic.
You have nothing to back up your claim. Also it doesn't even have to be jojo tier. The 2 posts I've cited give examples of such cool abilities.
I don't have to "back up" anything, your shitty examples speak for themselves. It's objectively boring trash.
>objectively boring
>he thinks lasers, super speed and super strength are more interesting
Sorry but your taste is just extremely trash. Anything that either makes you think twice about it or looks visually distinctive is more interesting than the generic stuff.
>he thinks generic fantasy slop with "MUH CURSES MUH RAISING THE DEAD" or "muh generic manipulation" is not the most boring trash imaginable
I don't give two fricks about lasers in any shape or form, by the way. Only sois and women want this kind of crap because they're weak and can't realistically win a fight. Same as magic and other such non-physical bullshit. Any purely physical ability is automatically cool, frick you.
You are a braindead ape that only likes punch harder and I am done talking with you.
>NOOO WANT MUH moronic BEAMS
There's more strategy and actual thinking to any hero who actually knows how to fight and exploit enemy's weaknesses on the fly than there is to any overwritten magical bullshit, moron. But that's something we barely have because most writers and artists are soifaced limpdicks who have never been in an actual physical fight.
>seething
>Y-y-you are seething...
t.
Mashle and One-Punch Man went to shit because their protagonist's one gimmick got stale, homosexualard
>I watch rancid joke garbage for redditors and am surprised it's garbage
Yeah, I know you're an idiot.
>wojackshitter
Just have a nice day at this point.
>"there should be no creative powers except mindless punching"
>gets media with no creative powers except mindless punching
>"uh...r-reddit did this!!"
Go eat a cyanide pill
Yes, I know weebs are too weak and femoid-like to ever be in an actual fight, so all you can imagine is just LE PUNCHING so you wish you had some gaudy gay supowerpowers instead. I've already covered this.
Die, the world would not miss you.
The world would miss me because my train of thought built civilization. Feral animals animals like you however try to fist-fight bears and die immediately with no fanfare, except getting laughed at for being a stupid waste of oxygen. Do us the favor of contracting cancer.
The only thing you've built is the turds in the toilet, weeb homosexual. You're an active detriment to civilization, so no absolutely nobody would miss you.
So right back at you with the cancer. Hope someone already died from it in your family by the way, that would make me very happy.
>You're an active detriment to civilization, so no absolutely nobody would miss you.
Hardcore projection from a lover of troony comics. Go back to worshiping marxist shit skins you ugly worthless mutt.
You're a brown turd-worlder like all fans of tranime are, you're quite literally anti-civilization, monkey.
>Hardcore projection from a lover of troony comics
He said he DIDN'T like One Piece, ESL-kun.
Why is it that every major anime protag either wears a dress or outright transforms into a woman? Anime is Black person-tier slop.
You're watching the wrong anime bro.
That's every single one, cuh.
you're both tryhard nerds, just frick off
Right when weebs grow out of their kiddy picture books phase and start consuming media without moronic superpowers.
Or when US decides enough is enough and drops a nuke on South American and other brownoid countries.
Either is fine by me.
as long as they don't make off-topic threads I'm fine with weebs, the thing is that this thread also involves anime so it's normal they'd chime in
but also none of you have contributed much aside from useless shit-flinging
>east vs west thread (the kind mods used to delete once upon a time, by the way) is full of useless shitflinging
And you expected what?
>Any purely physical ability is automatically cool,
>automatically cool
>automatically
You couldn't have exposed yourself any harder.
Actually the smartest person in the thread, you should watch Yu Yu Hakasho, they have dumb beam attacks and special abilities but most fights end with a good solid punch to the jaw.
>overly written dogshit is somehow good, because it's overly written dogshit
/a/gays and their lack of iq from gooning once again shows.
>Powers in manga/anime:
>posts side character abilities
Main characters in manga are just Superman but with swords or Superman but karate or Superman but demon. Don't even get me started on the twinks who strength train to become Superman with zero attempts to explain how they did that. I hate that shit. It's like:
>RoR aru you buff gais are razy!
side character abilities
I am pretty sure that one of these is listed as the main characters.
>power isn't punch hard and shoot beam hard
sorry I'm not into that other homosexual shit, just give me the manly powers
The best DBZ fight according to pretty much everyone had Goku use Solar Flare and a lot of other stuff to win so that contradicts your point.
>Tenshithand's technique
>best fight
Don't think so.
>Don't think so.
Then you are a contrarian.
Don't underestimate the Solar Flare.
the best fight in DBZ was between two unga bunga frickers having the strategy of hitting the other harder then usual
That's not Vegeta vs Goku, which is actually the best fight.
that is Goku vs Bejita
>start of the fight is Unga Bunga fighting
>Goku uses Kaio Ken to make his Unga Bunga stronger
>bean struggle is just two Unga Bunga beams colliding with Goku making his beam stronger with Kaio Ken
>Bejita goes Monkey Mode to make his Unga Bunga stronger
>Goku attempts to use the Spirit Ball, an Unga Bunga ball of energy that's more Unga Bunga then Kaio Ken but fails to since Monkey Mode has too much Unga Bunga
>Yajirobe removes Bejita's Unga Bunga Monkey Mode but he still has Unga Bunga left to kick the shit out of a kid
>Krillin uses the Spirit Ball which then Pong's off Gohan to Unga Bunga blast Bejita
>Bejita still has some Unga Bunga left but nearly passes out but then Yojirobe slices his back
>Bejita still has Unga Bunga left but then Gohan goes Monkey Mode and Unga Bunga crushes him
>Bejita leaves since he has no more Unga Bunga left
Goku vs Bejita is nothing but Unga Bunga after Unga Bunga moves after Unga Bunga techniques and transformations
As you've yourself proven you can actually describe the fight as more than just guy hits guy and there is some fricking teamwork at play unlike a lot of the other dbz fights
What are you talking about almost every major DBZ villain has been beaten using teamwork
>Powers in manga/anime:
>the exact same thing, but the anime character does something random with his hands and says the name of the power so weebs pog
Fixed your typo. Right here, anon considers "create a bright light" to be an original, wacky power because Goku says the name of the attack and does a pose.
>anon considers "create a bright light"
>0 reading comprehension
Where did I say that it's original? please read that conversation again you idiot.
Concession accepted, crossboarder-kun
What's even the point of this?
>hahah I don't know how to read I am dumb
Ok I guess? Good job.
are these people you speak of here with us?
Yes.
I like the YouTube video where Superman and Goku are flying up in the air and then the announcer basically talk about the dead of adopted father applying to both of them and the two went and hug each other while crying.
I am too ashamed to search for that so post it.
Think what I saw before was an edited thing of it where they took out the cheesy not related to the two had in common but this is I think the original video.
Man the Turtle Hermit Gi looks great on supes
Based.
dead show,get over.
yeah it really makes me think anime and manga are fricking dogshit word vomit
>1 line of text
> word vomit
You ok bro?
>Powers in manga/anime:
>Flash knock-off (but in dumb-looking armor)
>Black Canary knock-off (but with dumb-looking ears)
>Wildfire knock-off (but with a dumb-looking costume)
>Wildfire/Ice Man knock-off (but with a boring design)
>Frog
ftfy
That's probably mha because it's trying to damn hard to be capeshit but a lot of other manga with superpowers show way more versatility in using them(which sometimes gets matched by their cape counterparts since they have 600 issues and continuities to crank the powers up)
>a lot of other manga with superpowers show way more versatility in using them
Do they though? Because without context, OP's examples read like word salad.
>Do they though?
Yes. Even something as basic as electricity, I can think of eastern characters using it way more creatively.
>Because without context, OP's examples read like word salad.
No shit. Of course you need the context. Also the first 2 sound pretty straight forward if you have a bit of imagination.
>Even something as basic as electricity, I can think of eastern characters using it way more creatively.
Such as? Also, what comics have you read as a basis for comparison?
>No shit. Of course you need the context.
So supply it.
>Such as?
Electro in the amazing spider-man.
>So supply it.
I haven't read any of them so I'd rather not.
>Electro in the amazing spider-man.
So one character, but no examples of him using his power in uncreative ways?
>I haven't read any of them
Then how do you know they're actual examples and not just word salad?
>So one character, but no examples of him using his power in uncreative ways?
I rarely remember him using his powers in a lot of creative ways and he is from a 600+ issues comic. Name an electric character that shows as much creativity in ability usage as Railgun since you seem more knowledgeable.
>Then how do you know they're actual examples and not just word salad?
The first 1 is real and from Jojo.
>Name an electric character that shows as much creativity in ability usage as Railgun since you seem more knowledgeable.
Thor, Storm, Surge, Black Lightning and Lightning Lad have all used electricity-related powers in creative ways across the decades.
>The first 1 is real and from Jojo.
Thanks, that's useful.
As far as superpowers go, electrokinesis has always been one of the most potentially versatile.
>Thor, Storm, Surge, Black Lightning and Lightning Lad have all used electricity-related powers in creative ways across the decades.
>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LightningCanDoAnything
Go to the part about Misaka Mikoto and see what she can do with lightning
>Go to the part about Misaka Mikoto and see what she can do with lightning
Pity it's wasted on A Certain Magical Index.
>Pity it's wasted on A Certain Magical Index.
Nah, the series is good. Don't know what you are talking about
>Nah, the series is good.
It really isn't.
That's your opinion
And I'm right.
Tainted by association.
>And I'm right.
Nah, you are wrong
Another show will come along and you'll forget it even existed.
>Nah, the series is good.
Bullshit. The plot moves slower than One Peace and by season 3 it's more concluded than Kingdom Hearts.
She uses 99% of that stuff in her spinoff.
>Arguably one of the best examples, A Certain Magical Index's Misaka Mikoto really can do virtually anything with lightning, to the point she can use it to give her access to a whole other powerset in electromagnetism. So far she has been shown to zap people; stick to walls by attaching herself to the steel bars inside the concrete; throw said concrete using magnetic fields; attract or repel herself to or from objects at high speeds; prevent mind control with a passive electric barrier; use steel to create shields and cover; use the small amounts of electromagnetic waves she emits to sense anything that approaches; intercept radio waves; manipulate and deflect other electron-based attacks even if they're not specifically electricity; manipulate iron sand to form free-form swords that function as a mixture of chainsaw and whip, massive tornados, body doubles, and even a skyscraper-sized titan she can control at a whim; hack or disable electronic devices from a distance; align the electric signals of her brain to read the memories of an enemy; manipulate weather patterns to create thunderclouds; and even electrically enhance her own body to boost her physical abilities beyond her build. To top this off, her nickname in the series is 'the Railgun' given to her because of her special move that accelerates a simple coin to three times the speed of sound before firing, making her... well... a walking railgun. And the coin is just her wanting to avoid collateral damage; there's nothing stopping her from turning a car into a projectile at Mach 3 either, and the previously-mentioned iron-sand titan? She can piggyback off the static charge the iron sand particles generate from contact to create railgun attacks that can punch through other skyscraper-sized things. In one episode of the anime, she even uses her power to move her body after she's paralyzed (temporarily).
Pretty good
She can also transmit electric signals in her nerves manually to control her body even when it's paralyzed if I remember correctly.
You are right. That's the last part of the greentext
Frick I've missed that, you are right.
No problem anons, glad to see another Raildex fan here
Nta but I have a question that has been unanswered from my days of using old forums and hearing about accelerator. So does he need to borrow power from other stuff when he is increasing the speed of an object or does he generate the power himself? For example when throwing a can does he increase the speed at which the can moves by borrowing the vector of something he is in touch like the wind or gravity or does he simply generate that speed from nothing?
the former I think
first power is bites the dust from jojo
second power is taboo from yu yu hakusho
third is one of aleister's powers from to aru majutsu no index
Thank you also.
The second one sounds like it's inspired from those extremely buzzwordy cultivation novels.
Worm has a pretty consistent power system even if the author is not as good at physics as he thinks.
>Worm's power system is consistent
A misnomer, not your fault but its fans made that up. It's all random wacky nonsense, the PRT threat ratings and classifcations are an in-universe system for how to counter people with powers, not an accurate representation of how those powers work.
>The second one sounds like it's inspired from those extremely buzzwordy cultivation novels.
Nah the second one was inspired by Japanese wordplay games. Togashi also wanted tense fights that weren't just punchy shooty scenes.
Why do weeb posts always read like shill posts?
It's basically X-Men.
People are born with powers or quirks. I appreciate that they actually eant to become heroes and most people with power's are still average joes.
The main character sucks though.
Don't you talk about my GOAT
Conceptually the story would be better if he never got powers.
Most of their power sets aren't X-Men powers though.
Trying to balance giving a character a unique power but not having it drift into overdone insanity is hard.
>unique power
Unique power doesn't always mean OP.
How about the power to make Doom run on literally anything? Not just electronics. That sandwich? It runs Doom. Your penis? It runs Doom. Atomic particles? They run Doom. There's at least one way that power could be used to save the world. Alien invasion? Install Doom on the UFOs' systems and watch as the aliens become too distracted to invade!
That would be interesting BUT he would need maybe a friend with teleportation powers that could get him inside specific space where he can install Doom.
Lolno. I said that it's the power to make Doom run on ANYTHING. He just has to use his power on the universe itself, and say "idspispopd", then he can just noclip wherever he wants.
It's why even in Japan, the most iconic heroes are often the ones who rely on the basic strength/speed/energy blast powersets while the incredibly-complex powers are reserved for either minor one-shot heroes or just plain villains.
Unironically, I wish capeshit and superpowers would just die and replaced with martial arts shows, where every fighting style is represented 100% realistically down to their strengths and weaknesses.
>inb4 Baki
Baki is moronic crap that somehow has less realism than your average Superman comic.
That would just lead to a few styles dominating everything. A wrestler will always lose on a bad terrain. A boxer will always lose to someone that uses kicks.
>characters having training arcs with learning different styles to fix their weak spots
Works for me.
>Powers in manga/anime:
>Don't worry, I only raped her anally, she still has her hymen.
>Really makes you think
That you're a worthless Weeb baiting for (You)s like the attention prostitute you are?
Remember all the things you thought were cool as a teenager: sex, violence, gore, ruthlessness? It's still cool, it was always cool.
Depends on my mood, really.
If anything I realized how boring it all is.
I liked gore because I thought it's horrifying, but now I see it's not. I can look at actual RL gore pictures and not feel anything, why would animated gore be anything but boring?
If it was boring games and movies wouldn't be violent. It's just human nature to enjoy displays of power.
It is boring because 99.9% of these movies are nowhere near as "violent" as you think they are. It's all safe edgy slop.
Just fricking look at your gif, so cartoony it's hard to take it seriously. It wouldn't stimulate anyone but a small child.
NTA but it will always be exciting to you only if you're content to wallow in empty sensationalism forevermore. If you want something more from your media, though, mere spectacle soon becomes tedious.
>in b4 you reply with the democratic fallacy
>if you're content to wallow in empty sensationalism forevermore
You sound like a homosexual who'd argue that you don't have sex for some made up reason
breasts are cool, violence is cool, conquest is cool.
What Lupin is that again?
Goemon's bloodspray
Thanks.
No prob
You sound like an teenager who's still figuring out life. Go outside, touch grass, and above all accept that adults have already seen and done most everything you will ever see or do and are not impressed by your edgy phase.
And you sound boring as frick.
Take your Ritalin, child.
I hate this meme of "combatant women" so much.
Watching some b***h trying to look tough and cool will never not look cringe as frick.
You're a homosexual. Look up valkyrias, shield maidens, amazons, etc. it's always been part of history.
They have about as much credibility as armies as some oonga boonga spearchuckers.
Also Black Lagoon is cringiest reddit shit ever.
>Black Lagoon is cringiest reddit shit ever.
I agree
>Fiction isn't credible
>valkyrias, shield maidens, amazons
But they are fictions
>Fiction isn't credible
Dude should've gone for her. She was legit best girl.
And speaking of games, what was the last actually violent game with modern-day graphcis?
No, don't say Mortal Kombat. It's way too over the top to be taken seriously.
Rockstar still pussying out on making Manhunt 3 with modern-day graphics and executions looking good enough to pass for a real thing because their balls dropped off.
>inb4 Manhunt is not realistic either
Sure, there's a lot of silly shit, but there's a measure of realism. you can't cut off someone's head with a barbed wire IRL probably, at least not the way it's portrayed in the game, but there's enough stuff looking fairly plausible.
>muh strings are so sharp
moronic
there needs to be an anime where that shit doesn't work
The thing about manga/anime powers is that they're all usually consistent to each other or variations of a theme in each individual setting. Comics have powers coming from science and magic with incredibly different thematic backgrounds.
Anime has always been superior to comics.
Let's think about it. Cowboy Bebop, Afro Samurai, Samurai Champloo, Trigun, Serial Experiments Lain, Texhnolyze, Ergo Proxy, Full Metal Alchemist, etc.
Even newer anime like Kaiju No. 8, Jujutsu Kaisen, Attack on Titan, Dungeon Meshi, Vinland Saga, Kingdom, and Tengoku Daimakyou shits on EVERYTHING in comics.
Then again it's about as fair of a comparison as throwing a wounded fawn into the ring with a tiger.
WHY THE FRICK ARE YOU EVEN ON THIS BOARD
To see if there's anything good. But I'm not going to act like an idiot and pretend that Marvel's new mutant drama or DC's annual reboot is any good.
You want people to like comics? Then demand that the writers write good comics and stop defending shit.
>demand that the writers write good comics
They do. The writers never listen and never care.
>to see if there's anything good
There isn't so frick off back to Cinemaphile
Dude, there's more to comics than just capeshit the red and capeshit the blue
Capeshit the purple?
Amalgam hasn't been a thing for decades
Where are the story times then?
Jogger there have been constant war comic threads for the past two years you dim twat.
>Anime has always been superior to comics.
So, how was the end of Deadman Wonderland?
>So, how was the end of Deadman Wonderland?
Never even heard of it.
But this is what's so funny. Comic fanboys insist that we have to compare the worst anime to comics (because it's unfair otherwise). But anime releases a dozen shows every quarter. Obviously there's going to be some shit in there. But at least you have modern classics in the making. Shows that will be regarded as art for many generations to come.
But what do you have with comics? You have jack shit. The only stories that can even be considered presentable is the risque stuff from the 80s and 90s. But that was 30 years ago. We've had zero innovations since then, zero creativity. It's all the same generic slop.
If you hate comics so much why are you here?
Comics don't matter, dude. It's the everything else. The movies, shows, games and merch are what actually matters. Japan's got a different culture going on where their comics DO matter. Cultural differences are at play here. East vs West ain't applicable to these two very different markets.
>Comic fanboys insist that we have to compare the worst anime to comics
>he says while only comparing the best anime to comics
Actual powers in in anime: Punch really hard. Shoot lasers or elements really hard. Swing sword really hard.
I wish there was an algorithm that detected east west threads and then sends an electric shock to the op.
>casually has powers that are so creative it makes Jojo seem normal
They did it twice
Not even close to the same thing,
That's actually one of the best examples of interesting powers in western comics.
Powers such as?
Cannibalism powered precognition, being able to create any weapon imaginable out of chocolate, mind reading but only if both people are having the same meal, the ability to make people taste whatever food you describe (borderline WMD), creating brains made out of gelatin with psychic powers...
The self imposed rule of every power being food related resulted in some of the most creative ideas.
I think a problem with western comics, specifically capeshit as that's always what you're talking about when you say western comics, is simply the inconsistency of it all and it being in this vast kitchen sink style shared universe. A superhero's powers are usually pretty generic at its base, and then individual writers may choose to flesh out powers more as they see fit, which can then be retconned or forgotten as new writers use them in other stories. So powers stay feeling generic and any time they do something unique with it it feels more like a random asspull for that specific scenario over a natural evolution of the character's powers that'll stick with them.
Another problem is in these vast shared universes, there is very little consistency. Something like Jojo has stands, One Piece as Devil Fruit, etc. and maybe they'll have an additional power system or two to supplement them like hamon or haki. This consistency in the world's power system makes it easier for you to get a grasp of character's powers next to each other an rewards you for getting invested in how the world works. In capeshit, you have people whose powers are given by radiation, random mutation, alien origins, straight up magic wizard shit, failed generic experiments, which can be fun for a goofy monster of the week adventure series but sucks for getting people invested in the power systems of the setting itself. It's harder to establish those rules that make abilities feel less like asspulls and more like natural progression of abilities (not to say manga doesn't have asspulls, it all comes down to the writer's ability as well).
So this all goes to say that there is nothing stopping a western comic from having a fleshed out interesting power system with a consistent writer allowing for powers to progress without frequent retcon. And there are certainly western comics out there like this, but they aren't likely big two capeshit so no one cares about them.
But things like Jojo, HXH or Basilisk are anomalies in a sea.
If you look into most of the popular shonen, whatever crazy ass abilities developed by the secondary cast get forgotten when the protagonists start gaining powerups and transformations that make no sense. Eventually the guys who have scary ass powers like summoning swarms of insects, controlling sandstorms, calling lightning, read minds or slow down time to a crawl get outgunned by some idiot who has a demon/giant ape/spirit inside him and whom his only fighting style seems to be spamming energy blasts and punching from time to time.
>If you look into most of the popular shonen,
Jojo and One piece are literally in the top 10 best selling shounen of all time. What are you trying to say?
Eh. Stands and Devil Fruits are barely power systems, though. The characters can literally have any power you want regardless of how it makes sense within the context of other powers or the setting or the larger lore, and there isn't much consistency to how the powers develop. It is honestly barely different form just having wizards, mutants and mutates all around.
And honestly, Araki and Oda themselves are barely consistent with the way the power systems work. Like, we've seen Stands lifting their users to reach higher places, so logically any Stand user with a Stand that can lift a human body should be able to just fly anywhere, yet we've seen lots of fights and scenarios where that is obviously not the case.
Hamon and Haki are more proper power systems, and yes, you couldn't write something like that in comics and expect the writer changes to keep it consistent. You have some degree of rules and established progression in the power's growth, and you just know eventually some hack in a team up book or crossover will just ignore the limitations (not that Oda or Araki are that consistent with them but in a shared universe with dozens of writers you'll indeed just walk into people who just ignore the rules completely). But those are usually not the kind of powers that people gush over when it comes to Manga, and honestly they are not that particular to manga. I'd say they are more typical of light novels and books, both Japanese and Western. HxH being the one popular manga that actually has a super fleshed out magic system.
Also, Araki himself based Stands on the X-men's mutant powers (and Devil Fruits are based on Stands). It is just that he built them over time to be quirkier, while the X-men have largelly evolved to just have world-busting power levels. It'd be like if Abdul stuck around and he was now blowing up entire countries wiht his Stand's fire, instead of just introducing weirder stuff like a guy that turns things into dinosaurs.
Every weird or difficult super power lasts till they change the writer.
If they're lucky they don't even get killed so another writer can give it a try a decade later.
But most are dead or put on a bus forever.
This.
Take the current FF run for example. On the surface the characters have some of the most basic powers, but right now they are being pushed to use them in creative and new ways.
>Take the current FF run
Yuck, no thanks.
Cry all you want. It's still going to be there and it'll still be good.
Problem is its hard to care about these changes because once a new writer takes over or there is a status quo reset we aren't even guaranteed that these cool new applications of the powers will stick. Makes you less motivated to get invested in the power system when its inconsistent like that.
>cool cover
>ruined by ad
Bro why do they fricking do this.
Frick all that gay shit, just gimme a character with a big-ass gun.
Insert Bubblegum man here.
Here you go.
Thats not even getting into how many genres are in manga. You have to dig deep to find a western comic that isn't related to superheroes.
>You have to dig deep to find a western comic that isn't related to superheroes.
Wow, that was so fricking hard
https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/comics/image
https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/comics/fantagraphics-books
>You have to dig deep to find a western comic that isn't related to superheroes.
>Go to [insert totally legal comic reading site]
>Go to genre
>Filter out superhero
>Want to write a main character with illusion powers
>Have no idea if I'm smart enough to pull it off
AHHHHHH
How exactly would his illusion work? What would be your character's go to strategy when using them?
By writing glyphs in special ink, he'd be able to conjure up illusionary constructs. These illusions actually have mass, but only because the redirect the force you apply to them back on yourself. Say, he makes an apple. You could pick up that apple and hold it, but only because you'd be applying to force to grip it. As soon as you'd "let go" it'd essentially become weightless. And I feel like using these for misdirection would be the way to go. Someone who's constantly redirecting attention away from himself/others and what their doing. Like a stage magician but armed with an actual pistol.
Would the illusions be affected by other forces while not in touch with a person? Sounds interesting.
Yep! Any force applied to it would cause a reaction in some way. The idea then would be as he gets better with it, he'd create illusions with specific effects to them as well beyond "they're almost real". Also as a downside, someone keen would be able to pick up on tr trick. To go back to the apple, it wouldn't be a perfect 1:1 recreation of picking one up. Itd probably feel a little lighter and a bit floatier. Especially if the person picking it up had a naturally light touch.
How would gravity interact with it?
That is an excellent question, and one of the ones I'm afraid I may not be smart enough to answer yet. The easy answer would be "it causes gravity to act on them" but I feel like that's too basic. Maybe coming into contact with one of the illusions would cause their gravity to add to yours? Like a trap almost. You try to punch an image of him and briefly find your arms suddenly too heavy to lift.
>Maybe coming into contact with one of the illusions would cause their gravity to add to yours?
That could indeed work and make for some cool scenarios. A last question if 2 or more people touch the same object does it weigh in accordance to the first person that has touched it or does it have a different weight to each individual person?
At the start when the technique is rougher around the edges, it'd almost be an additive effect. The magic trying to redistribute the two forces acting on it evenly. As it improved, it could probably be more selective. Either by having each individual person expiriance their own version of its weight, or by combining the two enough so that it's the perfect representation of an apple and dispersing any excess.
>it'd almost be an additive effect. The magic trying to redistribute the two forces acting on it evenly.
That would help the character deal with groups of people.
It would! Honestly thanks for asking these questions because it got my noggin joggin in a good way.
No problem.
The only good part of Raildex is all the b***hes getting punched.
This is what we unironically need more of.
That's because a nations comic industry is shaped by geographic and socioeconomic factors. The megalopolis that is Tokyo is home to 40 million people and has the cleanest and most efficient public transportation system in the world as a primary space to read comics. This is the best environment for a competitive comic industry. America by contrast had New York City which has become unlivable to the point that the industry was swallowed up by Hollywood and is noncompetitive as comics are made by aging nepotism hires like Tom King.
Powers don't matter. All that matter is how well the scenes animated/paneled.
Powers in western comics:
>I don't read western comics
Powers in manga/anime:
>mucho texto
>Powers in manga/anime:
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>Powers in Western Comics: Regular guy without powers is somehow allowed on a team with gods and aliens and shit
>Powers in Eastern Comics: YOU DARE TO STEP IN MY PATH!!!!! FOR THIS INSULT I SHALL NOW CUT OFF ALL OF YOUR LIMBS, RAPE YOUR SISTER, MOTHER, AND AUNTS, AND THEN WIPE OUT YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY, ALSO I'M THE PROTAGONIST AND A GOOD GUY *flies away on a sword*
>Powers in Comics: Flight, invulnerability, strength, speed, energy projection, magic, psychic
>Powers in Manga: Too many to list
Homu's powah is one of my favorite time stops.
Frick, even the aunts?
>actual powers in comics
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Powers
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Powers
>superman rip off
I hate this shit, the worst thing is that there are millions of these morons. Superman's powers are the least interesting thing about the character.
Superman's powers are basic but complete power fantasy. Literally everything you could ever realistically want, as a man.
>Superman's powers are basic
They're not even related.
What does laser-eyes have to do with flight? What does x-ray vision (that doesn't even work like an x-ray) have to do with strength.
At least Green Lantern is limited to his ring.
It's pure power fantasy, you absolute moron.
Who never thought of shooting lasers from their eyes to torch shit while flying and punching planets into dust? Weebs are just mentally deficient.
As a man I would like super strength or speed but the laser thing is moronic cattle stuff. Great men in history are described as being fast, strong and intelligent. Blowing planets and shooting laser is pure capeshit brainrot.
Blowing up planets and shooting lasers is the ambition of every DOMINANT male. I'm sorry you're so beta you accept cucked terms foreign power fantasy.
>Blowing up planets and shooting lasers is the ambition of every DOMINANT male
Nah it's the ambition of a capeshiter.
No, it's the ambition of literally every single world leader of significance, all men. All dominant.
>inb4 n-no u
Pathetic.
>No, it's the ambition of literally every single world leader of significance, all men. All dominant.
So you don't even know basic history? Show me where the greatest leaders in history have ever mentioned things like shooting lasers or destroying planets. Some of them wanted to conquer the planet using speed, strength and intelligence. You are dumb.
Every dominant world leader (male) held the ability to destroy his enemies from afar, with but a glance or word. You are the moronic historylet beta with no argument. DONE!
>changes his argument
>no coherence
Concession accepted.
>no argument
>muh concession
You lost before you entered the field. Next time stay home like the b***h you are.
The problem with comics isn't the powers, it's the lack of tension. No one dies. No one ages. Nothing changes. It's basically the Simpsons.
shit changes all the time. Hell one of the biggest problems right now is that the bad shit seems to stay around forever while the good shit gets undone almost immediately. At this point it'd probably be better if stuff didn't really change.
homie JUST READ COMICS THAT AREN'T MARVEL/DC YOU FRICKING TROGOLODYTE
Noooo, then I can't make these bait threads anymore.
A subset of a larger concern. The settings themselves are slaved to larger monomyth, there's no room for anything but reinforcing it. Over time new stories stop feeling ambitious, even if they're supposed to push boundaries or change the status quo, because that inherently only matters to people already conditioned to obey those boundaries and respect that status quo.
>Powers in comics: I was born with this ability but trained for most of my life so I can use it to save people. I'm in my 30's
>Powers in manga: I just learned how to do this and I've been practicing it all week to kill a guy who been doing it for 100 years. I'm 13 btw
17 actually.
14, usually.
>Powers in comics: The ability to never stay married.
>Powers in manga: The ability to be oblivious to girls falling over themselves to frick you.
>Powers in comics:forgotten by the new writer cause he wants the character to get beaten up by mobsters and shit
>Powers in manga:Dropped because the series gained popularity and the creator can push that power system he's had in the back of his head.
Yeah, let's see what the most popular anime/manga are actually using for powers:
>Superman but can't fly
>growing into Superman
>Plastic Man
>level up into Superman: The MMORPG
>regular dude in time travel loop
>regular dude in another world who turns out to be Superman but nobody notices
>regular dude in another world who turns out can use magic/energy blasts better than everyone else
Oh wow, what a surprise. Nearly all of them have the character just have pretty typical super powers. The one exception are characters stuck in a time loop, although I'm not sure if that's too popular anymore.
Western comics are even worse, but let's not pretend like anime's most popular titles aren't in the same category. The biggest difference is that it's a bit easier to find smaller manga or anime, while even places dedicated towards western comics tend to just focus on the capeshit.
>Yeah, let's see what the most popular anime/manga are actually using for powers:
Shouldn't you use
>https://erzat.blog/tsutaya-weekly-manga-sales-ranking-april-15-april-21-2024/
or are you talking about the most popular one?
>Has never watched anime in his life
>Is still complaining about it
>One Punch Man
>My Hero Academa
>One Piece
>Sword Art Online
>Re:Zero
>any of the various isekai where a character is super strong
>any of the various isekai where a character is a super-mage, Mushoku Tensei or Overlord for example
None of these are really obscure either, so let's not pretend that you need to be an Cinemaphile lurker to know about My Hero Academia.
Superman did not create super strength, nor is he the first American character with super strength.
He's OP's example, anon.
One of my favorite powers in general
>finger beam
Kind of bland.
He shoots his nails with the power of rotation, its gains new properties as the story goes on
The basic power of being a literal nail gun is great because the setting is the wild west
Manga/anime is gay.
Dialogue in Western comics:
>deconstruction and examination of complex philosophical thought
>meaningful insights into the complexities of human relationships
>intricate plot devices operating a symphony of moving parts, weaving a pattern that comes together perfectly at the end
Dialogue in anime:
>autistically screeching the autistic names of attacks
>fujoshi bait
>edgelord catch phrases followed by ass-pull "keikaku"
So Western comics are pretentious while manga are fun and memorable?
What is your point of using a hentai as an example?
Teletubbies is "fun" too but it's not Lord of the Rings (pretentious and complex in comparison).
So it ultimately depends on what you're into. Some of the best anime, if not frankly all of the best can be called pretentious. Akira is pretentious. Eva is pretentious. Princess Mononoke is pretentious. They're not "fun" the same way K-On! is, but they're also better works of art and not as moronic.
>Akira is pretentious. Eva is pretentious. Princess Mononoke is pretentious.
Nope
Yes they are. In fact, there's a lot of pretentious anime. Most western media today is actually faux-pretentious, in that it tries to be but is ultimately a tad too shallow to truly be that.
There are pretentious animes, but you didn't give good examples.
Imagine seething this hard and being so insecure you have to reach like this about something that isn't powers like op mentioned lmao.
>this thread during euro hours
>actually meaningful discussion about powers and some apt comparisons using something like electromagnetic powers
>this thread during american hours
>shit like , people arguing that akira is "pretentious" and screeching
and examination of complex philosophical thought
You don't know what deconstruction means.
plot devices operating a symphony of moving parts, weaving a pattern that comes together perfectly at the end
Seriously, outside of Moore's works I can barely think of anything like this?
I don't even mind if western comics steal from anime. I just need fights as cool and creative as this one was.
I've always thought a merger of the two would be the optimal kind of comic/animated feature.
HBO kind of did it with Spawn, as Madhouse worked on that. But it was still primarily a US creative team, including some people who worked on BTAS. It also wasn't very action oriented as much as a thriller.
That might actually be the future anon.
I'm down to see what might happen.
I'm just surprised that it didn't happen sooner. Not only is anime consistently more popular than western animation (to the point that Netflix has to brand any adult cartoons on their platform as 'anime' or no one will watch it) but its famously cheaper. Why would you pay 2 million dollars for an 11minute segment of adventure time when you can pay 2 million dollars and get 12 entire 24 minute episodes? Most anime is done on the cheap and makes up for the shortfalls with a small selection of above average animation, its true. But the simple fact is that western companies can afford to higher an anime studio to make a show for them at 2-3 times what a normal anime show would get them and just pay for them up their game... and its STILL cheaper than 'in house' cartoon network shows.
I genuinely think that Star Wars Visions was Disney testing the waters on just outsourcing a bunch of shit to anime instead of bothering to compete in that sphere.
This happened before with Marvel, but all the series they tried were a failure.
Because they were pretty underwhelming. On average, worse than the comics and the movies alike in terms of writing.
The X-Men 92 anime opening alone mogs the entire 2011 anime series. Methinks they missed the golden opportunity to do it.
I'm a pretty big Blade fan and I found the anime underwhelming despite also liking the idea of it being outsources. Iron Man: Rise of the Technovore was alright though.
Rise of Technovore had a stereotypically "japanese" villain which was sort of fitting for Iron Man given his mecha vibes.
You mean anime villain. Although I do recall someone very similar in the comics too, during the whole Extremis period. He just wasn't as stylized.
Yes, I remember that I only saw the first episode of each one.
honestly blade deserves a new series, it can't be that expensive to make.
Sticky fingers might be the best power ever created
Anime is better.
Both can be alright. But it's odd how you'd rather be here than on your designated board.
If it's something that stems from insecurity over western art, I can assure you you're wasting your energy for nothing. Comics fans will remain the same and manga fans will remain the same.
Having cool and complex powers is a step in the right direction, but I think its important to focus more on how those powers are USED. Western comics have a bunch of characters with powers that on paper sound very interesting, but they are used like shit because the writers have no sense of creativity or choreography to make good use of them. The powers are not boring, bad writers make the powers boring and just copy paste old ones instead of coming up with new ones.
Meanwhile, Japan has plenty of powers that are frankly dull bu they make seem cool as frick. Mami just makes guns. Specifically single-shot guns. Also sometimes ribbons. That doesn't sound very interesting, but what they DO with that bland power is what makes it cool as frick and sells you on the idea that she really is one of the strongest magical girls in a direct fight.
The western comics version of Mami would be a buff dude who, depending on the artist of the issue, is indistinguishable from any other male protagonist when not wearing character-specific clothing who summons a gun, points it at someone else, and then spends the next 2 pages monologing pasted over 2 reused panels of art before finally pulling the trigger and missing because the target is a named character and no harm can come to them.
On their very best day, said character would just be Frank Castle who has a glowy effect when he pulls out his guns at the start of fights.
that just looks moronic and not cool at all
When you tell a lie it is supposed to at least be somewhat believable. Otherwise you will never trick anyone.
She also shoots ribbons out of guns.
anime is shit
plastic man mogs all anime powers
Nah
yah
Nunca nuh
uh-huh
No, I have been defeated.
I would watch a plastic man anime. Or a Ugandan bootleg live action film. In fact the latter might be even better.
>plastic man anime.
that's practically one piece
One Piece is all over the place, not really my cup of tea. I like it when the characters and aesthetics make more thematic sense of have more cohesion. Bleach and Shaman King have this quality to them. Comics also don't suffer from this issue. One Piece is "random character generator: the show".
or have*
I was making a joke, man. Not everything has to be so serious.
Easily.
I'm surprised the thread hasn't been deleted.
OP has gamed the system by having a lust provoking image from a western live action movie in the first post, instead of an anime picture. The mods literally cannot tell this is an east vs west thread, that would require them to pay attention to and police Cinemaphiles softcore porn threads, which are over half the board at any given time.
I only recognize the first one, what are the other two?
You're not trying hard enough and also cherry picking.
Ghost of a mirror that eats the time of anything reflected on it.
Actually, neither of these are the GOAT, the real GOAT are superpowers in Polish comics. A short list of powers Tytus (from Chmielewski's Tytus, Romek i A'tomek) alone possesses:
>Impossible to kill, as he's a fictional character; mentions only being erased could harm him while people are trying to burn him alive
>Can break the fourth wall as he pleases, casually breaks the black lines around the strip all the time, sometimes outright altering the plot against his creator's wishes
>Outright killed ACTUAL Superman in one comic, just by ripping off the S on his shirt: declares that now he'll be the new Superman but he realizes flying is a hassle so he gives up, the event is never brought up again
>Can enter paintings as he pleases and modify them, uses it to eat fruit off and take home a surrealist gf
>Can physically enter the internet by scanning himself
>Simultaneously an idiot and a genius depending on what he needs in any given situation
>Convinces his own creator to draw him a wife through the power of meta-narration
>Every character, even foreigners, speak Polish if he talks to them
>Access to dozens of vehicles made by his genius scientist friend, nearly flooded Sweden with one of them
>Takes drugs to see what would it do: decides the drug-induced hallucination world is stupid and leaves
>Inspires a small group of non-smokers to overthrow a land whose very foundation is the concept of smoking
Tytus is no joke, man.
I'm east euro myself but as far as european characters go, Slaine is pretty interesting. He's based on the Irish mythological character Cú Chulainn who is a sort of proto-Conan, except on steroids. They really went balls to the wall and I'd actually recommend reading the original myths more so than the comics.
There is a Cuchulain comic but it was kind of underwhelming. The OG stories from the Ulster Cycle are cool.
He's got a pretty good anime version, too.
Didn't know DBZ was a western comic.
It was ever since Cartoon Network started airing it and they injected nu-metal into it. That's what made it finally good
Cringe and cope
the true power of manga is to bait threads in Cinemaphile and have everyone bite it
For every good manga, there are thousand shitty ones. But no one talks about them.
However, people talk a lot about shitty comics.
That Jojo guy is legit insane.
which one?
>generic boring powers
>lists DC heroes/powers
why are DC comics such fricking hacks?
they seem generic because they're seminal. they're seminal because everyone copies them.
it's marvel's fault.
DC has a real problem in that its roster hasn't meaningfully changed in decades with most of its popular characters being its oldest. Which means that the face of the franchise is taken up by characters, and thus ideas, that are multiple generations old. We have had decades of innovation since then, but DC still wants to push the same shit to you and your grandkids as it was pushing to your grandparents. It doesn't matter if these ideas were fresh and creative THEN, they are as hell are not creative NOW.
Marvel is a tiny bit fresher and more creative, but only because their roster of powers and characters got set in stone decades later, so they are in response to DC.
those are all just jojo abilities aren't they?
Capeshit permanently killed creativity in comics, so that's why, Fantoma, and Stardust are pretty good examples that before cemented big two stuff there were to be fair, clearly some level of attempts at trying to create unique powers.
ai slop
This is called a "shoop," it was made by human hands over a decade ago.
This is the hot-and-dirty proof.
Clicked for boobs. Please post more.
>complains about energy blasts and punches
>the most popular shonen character worldwide is Goku
He doesn't complain about that, but that in the West they lost their originality a long time ago.
that's why he said "superman rip off" and not superstrength.
All speedsters are copies of the Flash and "cosmic being that shoot generic energy blasts" is a complaint that you have infinite possibilities with cosmic power, most of the time the authors do the most basic thing.
>Powers in western comics
>fanatic 4
>mr fantastic can stretch into any shape
>invisible girl can turn invisible and make invisible force shields
>human torch can generate intense heat and flame and fly
>the thing has a rock like body that has super strength
Their powers arent superman or flash copies, but are also very easy to understand their powers in a single sentence
But among the tens of runs how creatively have they used their powers? Also Rock's power is still pretty generic, it only has a cosmetic difference compared to other super strong guys.
Because being a rock monster means his personal life is ruined. It adds to the character.
Not everything is about the utility of the power in a fight
>Because being a rock monster means his personal life is ruined.
I know that. Still I would prefer being a rock monster to being a israelite but we weren't talking about that were we?
>he wouldn't want to be rich and control the planet's government
come on
>Also Rock's power is still pretty generic, it only has a cosmetic difference compared to other super strong guys.
being a rock monster gives a totally different dynamic from any other super strong character
first of all, he is ugly
second, he has no flight or energy projection, so he has to rely on his team mates for mobility, like mr fantastic using himself as a spring to propel the thing
and third, it hinders as much as it helps him, he cannot leap great distances like the hulk forcing him to rely on his team mates as mentioned above, he cannot use elevators
but in any case, having an extremely simple power set of "being a rock monster" is much more elegant than
>power alters reality within his Territory, enforcing rules primarily related to language. Breaking these rules leads to severe consequences, including the loss of one's soul. He can also prevent violence within his territory but risks his own soul if he speaks the Taboo word.
which is needlessly complex
>first of all, he is ugly
Not really relevant. But the others are of course good limitations, still not even close to something that can be used in so many diverse way as
and I don't see a problem in this context since it fits with the team's dynamic but there are a lot of flying/walking bricks in comics that are not at all interesting.
>which is needlessly complex
I haven't even watched/read YYH and I can read that and understand that it basically says " control over my territory with some rules" and the limitation being "if I break the rules I am punished as well" which sounds inetersting depending on how it's used.
>Not really relevant
it literally makes him visually distinct without any need for explanation
>, still not even close to something that can be used in so many diverse way
the point being made here is that the thing is neither a superman nor flash clone, and the extremely straightforward power of "rock monster" is far from boring
>"Here, I make the rules!"
This is a textbook western comics archetype, the magical trickster. See: Bat-mite, Mxyzptlk.
americans don't have imagination and feel embarrassed when they have to take their job of writing cartoons seriously
Manga is the leader. Manhua and Manwha is the future. Comics will never be relevant.
Too busy, just has no appeal
You're delusional. It's the fastest growing market.
Because Asians have the biggest population on Earth.
Not a single masculine looking person in the bunch. And that's the "serious" manga. The vast majority is cringe inducing "happy go lucky" campy moeshit. Why should I be interested again?
That's a manhwa doe.
>the "serious" manga.
There are 100,000+ stories on webtoons. And a good chunk of them have amazing art.
Kek this is what you call amazing? No wonder this slop has become so popular, modern readers are moronic.
The standard it's being compared to:
It does look like the average manga art, yes
The shading and lineart here is superior to the one on top, unironically.
I'm sure they had a superior pencil too, it's just that it's.. shit
there some weird shit going on here
And yet Spider-Man still has the perfect power set
Chew, as mentioned earlier in the thread, is a western comic with a lot of unusual abilities, with the constraint that they're all food related. As another anon recently said though, it isn't just coming up with a fun idea, but using it in creative ways an audience may not consider.
For example, one character in the setting can read the minds of anyone nearby eating the exact same thing. At one point, she winds up in prison for quite some time. While everyone would hope that'd set her on the straight and narrow, it had the opposite effect. By having prison meals with all the other inmates, she essentially picked up a whole prison's worth of skills, from lockpicking to manufacturing counterfeit bills.
Also, it isn't nearly as whacky overall but there's some fun ideas in Local Man. It's about a guy who can see the potential in any object, letting him use anything like a weapon to the best of its ability. Can throw trash can lids like captain America with his shield, attach a ribbon to one and have it create a makeshift tripwire by having it bounce around key spots and trail the ribbon behind, for example.
Need more recommendations, if anyone has any. In return, while a manga, I'd suggest Law of Ueki. Every power is "Turn X into Y if CONDITION is met". You get stuff like a guy who can turn towels into iron for as long as his breath is held, or someone that can turn his forehead into diamonds as long as his hands are in his pockets.
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Spider-Man, Storm, telepathy like Jean, tech heroes like Tony, Ice Man, Gambit, teleporters like Kurt, healing factor heroes like Logan, Strange, Animal Man, Swamp Thing, and anime protags like Magik.
From the top of my head
idk man comics have had some unique powers.
Green Lantern's entire concept is relatively unique.
characters like the Human Bomb are pretty interesting, Negative Man
>Green Lantern's entire concept is relatively unique.
OF course it is. But he got too strong so it became boring.
Really?
>forgetting about bullshit like Iceman, the Flash or Magneto where their powers have gotten super bullshit
Or recently Miles using his venom blasts shit to make a lightsaber
I like Iceman's even with it's absurdities but magneto and flash are extremely meh applications of power creep
Powers can be useful for more things than fights.
>waah don't be powerful in power fantasy
???
Superhero comics don't focus on the fights so there really isn't a need for them.
"Powers' in anime come from contrived as shit bullshit world creation with an arbitrarily altered glossary of terms that's so far removed from the real world and normal use of language that I don't care or have time for it. Western comics are normal world and normal people, but with powers, any all powers. Capes will always be superior.
>that I don't care or have time for it.
But you do have time to read 20 sentences every single page?
>with an arbitrarily altered glossary of terms that's so far removed from the real world and normal use of language
I have unironically never interacted with something like that. You sound very limited in your imagination.
Powers in anime tend to have a common source.
Nen, ESP, Haki, Reiatsu, Chakra, Chi, Magic, and so on. So it's explained internally very well.
So if you accept Nen it makes sense.
In Marvel you have to accept all kind of unrelated bullshit powers.
I know the bomb one is Killer Queen but are the others Jojo powers as well?
So you're proud of your anime ripping off groundhog day?
>Groundhog day
>Tuesday in Sandman land
>Telepathy but stupid
Meanwhile, in actual superhero comics we have
>Adjusts reality near him in a "personal battlefield"
>Stores solar energy and uses it to open portals to a dimension of pure kinetic energy
>The living power of an ancient dragon from an invisible city that only appears to the worthy
>A liquid alien replaces your blood and fires pieces of itself as projectiles or reshapes your body, as part of a plot by a washed up reporter outside of time to control the path of biological destiny within a larger plot of a cabal of reality warping outsiders
Cool story bro
Please enjoy your story about another young boy who wins against impossible odds by digging deep and being more Japanese than the other guy
reality near him in a "personal battlefield"
solar energy and uses it to open portals to a dimension of pure kinetic energy
>>The living power of an ancient dragon from an invisible city that only appears to the worthy
>>A liquid alien replaces your blood and fires pieces of itself as projectiles or reshapes your body, as part of a plot by a washed up reporter outside of time to control the path of biological destiny within a larger plot of a cabal of reality warping outsiders
>still less versatile than
Pretty good
Eh, you've lost.
So, backdooring from Black Lightning into Magneto? Wow, so cool and original
Manga fans are so sad
Like, the fact that you raid another board *constantly* really shows the inferiority complex. Which is insane, given the sales differential. But you do.
I don't think any of OP's stuff sounds cool or original except sort of the second one.
And if you're bored of beams, you must be real fricking tired of shonen.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure I remember Mags being able to manipulate electricity and the weather due to some magnet bullshit.
>So, backdooring from Black Lightning into Magneto? Wow, so cool and original
How the powers are used is way more interesting than either Magneto or Black Lighting which maybe in 500+ issues will come up with one of those applications after the author got tired of drawing the same action)
>ike, the fact that you raid another board *constantly* really shows the inferiority complex.
Raid, implies that I have a home board, which I don't.
>. Which is insane, given the sales differential.
Even if the sales were 100000 times better for western comics than manga I would still make the same claims.
>Should we just throw the billion of reality warpers Marvel and DC have sitting around everywhere?
If any of them have interesting limitations and ways of using their abilities sure. Write down the name of the comic as way so I can check it out.
>How the powers are used
But the anon who gave the example didn't provide any examples of his waifu's powers being used interestingly either. He just said she had a lot of powers.
She has electromagnetism and he listed a variety of way she uses it, which she does in a rather short appearances and short fights.
>I don't think any of OP's stuff sounds cool or original except sort of the second one.
The ones that you've provided sound even lamer.
>And if you're bored of beams, you must be real fricking tired of shonen.
I am tired of shounen beam users but even more tired of capeshit ones.
Nah.
>The same thing bothers me more if it comes from a comic instead of a manga
Yeah, I know you're irrational, you don't gotta spell it out
You're here to shit on the content of one board in favor of the content of another. Today, your home is Cinemaphile, and your taste is shit.
>You're here to shit on the content of one board in favor of the content of another. Today, your home is Cinemaphile, and your taste is shit.
It's like you are blind a large part of the thread were people actually listing interesting western comics, that aren't the usual superhero crap. Hell there wasn't even that much flamebaiting at the beginning and an anon even listed his idea for a power and got some feedback. The first half of this thread was more productive than most of Cinemaphile at any give time. It only got into this trash in the later parts.
Nuh uh. The ones in the Op were cooler. You haven't even explained what a powerful dragon is and one of the powers is just some beam shit. Also nothing is really original and the thread wasn't about oiriginallity regarding other media.
>>The same thing bothers me more if it comes from a comic instead of a manga
Yeah, I know you're irrational, you don't gotta spell it out
Fine then I hate beam spam equally, happy?
>muh versatility
Should we just throw the billion of reality warpers Marvel and DC have sitting around everywhere?
>Adjusts reality near him in a "personal battlefield"
*yawn*
>Stores solar energy and uses it to open portals to a dimension of pure kinetic energy
So he can shoot beam number 36236?
>The living power of an ancient dragon from an invisible city that only appears to the worthy
What's the power of a dragon exactly?
>A liquid alien replaces your blood and fires pieces of itself as projectiles or reshapes your body, as part of a plot by a washed up reporter outside of time to control the path of biological destiny within a larger plot of a cabal of reality warping outsiders
The only cool sounding one.
Powers in western comics:
>shooting super mini clones of yourself from your fingers
yes, but all of protagonist of the mangas only have:
>punch really hard
>energy blast
>scram loudly to get new superform
Complex power are shit.
really hard
blast
loudly to get new superform
I can name so many counter examples kek and even if that was true for everyone, usually the other main characters or villains with cool powers are remembered.
>names none
Useless post.
Death Note.
Look at the beginning of the thread and you could see that it's actually a pretty rational discussion without that much throwing shit at each other. It only got worse 10 hours ago.
The East vs West debate needs to end. Just like whatever you like, life is too short to care about which is better.
The issue with trying to make more complicated powers in a character in a comic scene where there's more than one writer is that:
A) The character straight up won't be used
B) Another writer will frick your character up and change his shit to make it ten times easier to write with.
C) He will get killed off.
I do agree that we should have powers that are more versatile, I doubt that they would be able to pull it off.
>>bomb is planted into a host to conceal original user identity; it activates upon revealing his secret, causing a lethal explosion. It then triggers a temporal loop, rewinding time by about an hour, with only the host retaining memory of previous loops.
How would you write a hero with kira's powers?
>manga is autism levels of specificity
really makes you think
>autism levels of specificity
Once again those are such short and easy to understand abilities. It's not like he mentioned some extremely thoroughly explained mechanism from a sci-fi novel.