I think a "movie" Simpsons would dramatically change the status quo for good. For example, what if after the Movie... Homer and Bart never ever got into a serious argument again? Or if, in another movie, a recurring character leaves with high regard after a great end to the character arc (Apu gets enough money to leave this shithole lmao).
Would only work if a major VA died and the change was due to their passing. It would be preferable that the VA goes suddenly and unexpectedly to really force the writers' hands into putting in some effort
>Would only work if a major VA died and the change was due to their passing. It would be preferable that the VA goes suddenly and unexpectedly to really force the writers' hands into putting in some effort
In an age of AI that will never happen, and when you make big shit money like the Simpsons you probably don't give a frick about losing a few iconic actors here or there, because Family Guy was easily able to replace Cleveland's voice actor.
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I like that it came out after theatrical american 2D films were no longer a thing. Made it feel more special. It wouldn't have felt the same if it came out in, say, 1999, which had Tarzan, South Park BLM and The Iron Giant.
Or like when the Doug and Rugrats movies can't out.
I liked it when it released (I was 13) but I can’t stand it now. The best parts are the great soundtrack and some well-animated bits and pieces here and there. The story is total dogshit and should, in my opinion, not have been some weird epic adventure movie. I’d rather have had a more traditional Roadtrip film inspired by vacation or, something that focused on Springfield without the shitty EPA nuke plot, and not these poor le serious character arcs.
Itchy and Scratchy Land as a big ass movie would’ve been great.
That would've actually been kino
Who Shot Mr. Burns?
This. I believe it originally was supposed to be a movie. They should've focused on doing some big mystery thing.
>Happily N'Ever After, TMNT, Meet the Robinsons, Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters, Shrek the Third, Surf's Up, Ratatouille, The Simpsons Movie, Bee Movie, Beowulf
2007 theatrical american animation films, in order of release date.
Bender's Big Score had a lot of strong personal arcs, especially that fricking Fry arc, holy shit...
Beast with a Billion Backs I barely remember, but it had some lines that went hard.
Bender's Game had a classic ending.
I think of all the Futurama movies, the one where the main plot was strongest was probably Into the Wild Green Yonder, but then again, that one was also the most focused.
>Alvin and the Chipmunks is kino
Do you really believe this? I don't even want to argue with you. I just really want you to flesh out what you think is good about this movie as a grownup, because I hated those movies as kids, and only saw them because I'll take any excuse my parents give me to go to the movie theater.
A '90s Simpsons movie would've been awesome yeah, but I still think what we got came out at just the right time too. The show was still beloved and on people's radars in the mid-aughts. How else do you think it became a box office hit and broke the internet with Spiderpig?
The only way I'll watch a Family guy movie is if it begins with Peter asking the family >Remember the time we were in a movie?
And then the whole film plays out as a cutaway gag.
>Family Guy is more beloved after 20 years than Simpsons was at the time of its same milestone.
I don't feel like that's true, but I guess it would be hard to prove. Why do you believe this?
Only if it's a full blown, Broadway style musical. Seth's sense of humor might be shit, but damn it if he can't sing and do musical numbers right. Just get whoever did the songs for early Family Guy and American Dad to write it and you have gold.
Loved it when it came out, but now it just feels like an extended-length episode.
I always hated that the movie turns into YET ANOTHER "Homer and Marge marriage crisis" plot halfway through.
Literally the only and I mean ONLY aspect of the movie worth giving a shit about was Bart's resentment towards Homer and Flanders semi-adopting him.
Lisa and Millhouse's love shit was annoying, Homer and Marge's falling out was rushed. Lisa was an annoying environmentalist for the 542th time, etc.
I liked it when it released (I was 13) but I can’t stand it now. The best parts are the great soundtrack and some well-animated bits and pieces here and there. The story is total dogshit and should, in my opinion, not have been some weird epic adventure movie. I’d rather have had a more traditional Roadtrip film inspired by Vacation or, something that focused on Springfield without the shitty EPA nuke plot, and not these poor le serious character arcs.
Itchy and Scratchy Land as a big ass movie would’ve been great.
I remember we got to watch the season 18 episode where Lisa helps Moe with poetry while on an airplane and the only time anyone laughed was when Moe pulls out a gun and starts shooting to avoid losing his fight to swans. Then we have the movie where I was surrounded by Simpsons fans busting a gut in the theater the whole time up till the end. It was beautiful and honestly will always remember that experience. The movie was definitely the best we could’ve hoped for at the time. I really wish we hadn’t gotten a season 19 and onwards.
It shocked audiences and probably made headlines at the time. Bob's Burgers by comparison couldn't even show Louise without her bunny ears. That alone would've made THAT film go viral, but they passed on the opportunity for some dumb fricking reason.
Literally no one but bob gays care what’s under her hat. It’s hair. It wouldn’t go viral for that.
Now if they showed Louise’s pussy
I mean if Bart can show is dick why shouldn’t we see it?
It’s pretty funny in context where they do that whole elaborate scene to conceal it. I imagine it is a big deal to show a child’s penis in a movie in general though
It wasn't funny. The Simpsons stopped being funny ~10 prior to this. Leading up to the debut all the normies around me were hyped. How was the movie possibly going to be good when the show itself wasn't for so long. I watched it and sure enough, there wasn't a single fricking funny joke in it. I cringed more than I laughed. Pic related.
It was better than the show at the time, but still only like a season 10-12 quality. I liked it overall, Spiderpig was funny but it was kinda forgettable besides that and the Bart's dick scene.
I'm starting to think the "Simpsons decline"/"golden age Simpsons" is a myth. It's a thing Gen Xers/older Millennials latched onto to look "cool" and everyone just accepted it as gospel over the years.
Everyone has a different episode/season that they define as "the beginning of the end", none are consistent. I have heard people say this about episodes in seasons 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17, 19, 20, 23, or even as early as 4.
In 2004 nerds were already writing news articles/books about "the Simpsons has declined", but in 2023 you hear people say "It didn't go downhill until after the 2007 movie". In 2000 people said the jockey elves was the downfall, but in 2023 normies laugh at the jockey elves in "Simpsons funny moments" videos.
It's pretty consistent actually. Most people agree it went to shit around seasons 12-13, and that the decline was noticeable in 9-11. Some go earlier with the decline, and some people think the show was still decent to like 13-15, but that's rare. Very few people would call season 4 bad.
I agree. I'm sure it goes downhill at some point but I think a lot of the seasons just have a shift in humor. People trash on 13 but I love the Homer/Bart tethered episode.
I do know the point where I fell off was season 20 but idk if I could go back and binge the whole thing to figure it out
Just because some weirdos say the first 20 seasons are great doesn’t mean it’s an opinion held by many people
Anyone who actually sits down and watches it will agree it starts to fall off when all the original writers left and Matt Groening became more concerned with foot rubs than funny stories aka season 10
>Everyone has a different episode/season that they define as "the beginning of the end", >What does that tell us?
If a TV show is steadily gradually consistently decreasing in quality, then different people with different tolerances for shit, will highlight different points in the TV show's history s the moment it became unacceptable to them.
This isn't difficult zoomey.
A lot of people say that the simpsons died at season 12--8---15--etc...
But i honest to god believe that the movie is the very moment the simpsons died for good, early 2000s seasons werent the best and struggled but they had still a decent amount of good episodes, but boy oh boy after the movie it was like the quality went from mid to pls cancel us tier.
I have a huge soft spot for it as it was like one of the few movies my family had when I was really young. But overall it's kind of just alright. Homer is really out of character just to get the plot going and Lisa has the most forced storyline possible just to have her do something in the movie.
>What do you think of it?
I loved it, but I was probably 9 years old when it came out. I also loved the 3 Rugrats movies. "The Movie" "in Paris" and "meets Thornberries"
Fun. I found it played out like a long special more than a movie though.
What would you think a more "movie" level Simpsons movie would have been like?
homer creampies himself
sure walked into that one
homer friggin clones himself
Who Shot Mr. Burns?
homer get ipad
I think a "movie" Simpsons would dramatically change the status quo for good. For example, what if after the Movie... Homer and Bart never ever got into a serious argument again? Or if, in another movie, a recurring character leaves with high regard after a great end to the character arc (Apu gets enough money to leave this shithole lmao).
Would only work if a major VA died and the change was due to their passing. It would be preferable that the VA goes suddenly and unexpectedly to really force the writers' hands into putting in some effort
>Would only work if a major VA died and the change was due to their passing. It would be preferable that the VA goes suddenly and unexpectedly to really force the writers' hands into putting in some effort
In an age of AI that will never happen, and when you make big shit money like the Simpsons you probably don't give a frick about losing a few iconic actors here or there, because Family Guy was easily able to replace Cleveland's voice actor.
homer being a superhero like superman
Ipad get Homer
In two years kids who were born when this movie premiered will be able to post here.
frick you
Don't remind me. I already feel old when my co-worker tells me he was born in 2004.
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>tfw I'm surrounded by underaged cringe posters and it's overwhelming enough that they often aren't even called out.
>started browsing Cinemaphile in high school
>was always just a lurker, never really posted anything
>stopped browsing regularly around 2014 because of you know what
>couldn't find any other site that I liked, so wind up coming back anyway but avoiding most of the boards I used to browse
>mostly just stick to /toy/ because it's the one place I can actually discuss a line I collect without learning a new language
>board becomes noticeably worse in the past couple of years as spammers get worse and mods just don't care anymore
>only recently came back to Cinemaphile after getting back into animation and reading comics again
>nothing has changed
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I like that it came out after theatrical american 2D films were no longer a thing. Made it feel more special. It wouldn't have felt the same if it came out in, say, 1999, which had Tarzan, South Park BLM and The Iron Giant.
Or like when the Doug and Rugrats movies can't out.
That would've actually been kino
This. I believe it originally was supposed to be a movie. They should've focused on doing some big mystery thing.
>Happily N'Ever After, TMNT, Meet the Robinsons, Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters, Shrek the Third, Surf's Up, Ratatouille, The Simpsons Movie, Bee Movie, Beowulf
2007 theatrical american animation films, in order of release date.
Cool, but the Futurama movies were better.
Bender's Big Score was also 2007
Bender's Big Score had a lot of strong personal arcs, especially that fricking Fry arc, holy shit...
Beast with a Billion Backs I barely remember, but it had some lines that went hard.
Bender's Game had a classic ending.
I think of all the Futurama movies, the one where the main plot was strongest was probably Into the Wild Green Yonder, but then again, that one was also the most focused.
I only liked the first one
The third one is good, tho.
Duh.
It was good. But when is the second movie???
Idk like all things in 2007 it felt off and wasn’t very entertaining aside from the last minute of the climax
>like all things in 2007
Alvin and the Chipmunks is kino
Those movies were a fricking plague and a lrime example of exactly what that anon was talking about.
>Alvin and the Chipmunks is kino
Do you really believe this? I don't even want to argue with you. I just really want you to flesh out what you think is good about this movie as a grownup, because I hated those movies as kids, and only saw them because I'll take any excuse my parents give me to go to the movie theater.
Shit
10 years way too late
A '90s Simpsons movie would've been awesome yeah, but I still think what we got came out at just the right time too. The show was still beloved and on people's radars in the mid-aughts. How else do you think it became a box office hit and broke the internet with Spiderpig?
Family Guy is more beloved after 20 years than Simpsons was at the time of its same milestone. The time for OUR movie is now.
You really want a 90-minute compilation of cutaway gags?
there already was a (direct-to-dvd) Family Guy movie
Feels like forever since I've last seen that
Don't even remember if it was any good
>simpsons had a movie
>south park had a movie
>beavis and butthead had a movie
>bob's burgers had a movie
>aqua teen hunger force had a fricking movie
>family guy can only go direct to video
Seethe MacFarlane BTFO
Aqua Teen got two movies, actually. Think Beavis and Butthead did too.
The only way I'll watch a Family guy movie is if it begins with Peter asking the family
>Remember the time we were in a movie?
And then the whole film plays out as a cutaway gag.
That’s too clever for modern family guy
How would that work? Their format is more akin to a sketch comedy show so it couldn’t work as a movie
>Family Guy is more beloved after 20 years than Simpsons was at the time of its same milestone.
I don't feel like that's true, but I guess it would be hard to prove. Why do you believe this?
Only if it's a full blown, Broadway style musical. Seth's sense of humor might be shit, but damn it if he can't sing and do musical numbers right. Just get whoever did the songs for early Family Guy and American Dad to write it and you have gold.
Does AD! still have decent original songs or has that become a thing of the past?
Spider-pig wasn't funny though.
Ok gramps, the rest of us were having fun at the time
>broke the internet
Hi Ben Shapiro.
Soulless
Loved it when it came out, but now it just feels like an extended-length episode.
I always hated that the movie turns into YET ANOTHER "Homer and Marge marriage crisis" plot halfway through.
And YET ANOTHER Milhouse is in love with Lisa but Lisa gets a boyfriend.
Literally the only and I mean ONLY aspect of the movie worth giving a shit about was Bart's resentment towards Homer and Flanders semi-adopting him.
Lisa and Millhouse's love shit was annoying, Homer and Marge's falling out was rushed. Lisa was an annoying environmentalist for the 542th time, etc.
Also that hot chocolate looked fricking amazing.
Ghibli food <<<<<<< Flanders's hot cocoa
it was okay, but man they went for trying to brute force meme jokes and a cliche story rather than just making an extended episode of the show
profoundly terrible
I liked it when it released (I was 13) but I can’t stand it now. The best parts are the great soundtrack and some well-animated bits and pieces here and there. The story is total dogshit and should, in my opinion, not have been some weird epic adventure movie. I’d rather have had a more traditional Roadtrip film inspired by Vacation or, something that focused on Springfield without the shitty EPA nuke plot, and not these poor le serious character arcs.
Itchy and Scratchy Land as a big ass movie would’ve been great.
I remember we got to watch the season 18 episode where Lisa helps Moe with poetry while on an airplane and the only time anyone laughed was when Moe pulls out a gun and starts shooting to avoid losing his fight to swans. Then we have the movie where I was surrounded by Simpsons fans busting a gut in the theater the whole time up till the end. It was beautiful and honestly will always remember that experience. The movie was definitely the best we could’ve hoped for at the time. I really wish we hadn’t gotten a season 19 and onwards.
Too much of the movie was WE'RE PG-13, WE'RE PG-13, HERE'S BART'S PENIS. OTTO SMOKES WEED. MARGE SAYS GOD DAMN. WE'RE PG-13.
Also President Schwartzenegger being just Rainer Wolfcastle with brown hair was weird.
I always thought the joke was that it’s Wolfcastle playing Arnold.
I still don't get why they felt the need to show Bart's penis like it was some big deal. It added nothing to the plot and wasn't even a funny joke.
It shocked audiences and probably made headlines at the time. Bob's Burgers by comparison couldn't even show Louise without her bunny ears. That alone would've made THAT film go viral, but they passed on the opportunity for some dumb fricking reason.
Why are people unable to picture Louise sans ears? She's a cartoon. And not a very detailed on at that.
Literally no one but bob gays care what’s under her hat. It’s hair. It wouldn’t go viral for that.
Now if they showed Louise’s pussy
I mean if Bart can show is dick why shouldn’t we see it?
It’s pretty funny in context where they do that whole elaborate scene to conceal it. I imagine it is a big deal to show a child’s penis in a movie in general though
Well that's the thing. The not showing it part was the funny bit. Showing it, especially the way they did, was just.... weird.
>show Bart's penis like it was some big deal
For Western shotagays at least, it kinda was.
>YFW they used Tom Hanks because using Troy McClure without Phil Hartman's voice would have been a bad movement in his memory.
🙁
I wish Spider Pig was in more episodes since. He's supposed to still be living with the Simpsons.
>The top of his head is still showing. Claw at it!
It wasn't funny. The Simpsons stopped being funny ~10 prior to this. Leading up to the debut all the normies around me were hyped. How was the movie possibly going to be good when the show itself wasn't for so long. I watched it and sure enough, there wasn't a single fricking funny joke in it. I cringed more than I laughed. Pic related.
Bet the writers patted themselves on the back real hard for that one.
It was pointless and stupid.
It was fun, but they should have pander first for the fans. Some jokes were hit 'n' miss.
It was better than the show at the time, but still only like a season 10-12 quality. I liked it overall, Spiderpig was funny but it was kinda forgettable besides that and the Bart's dick scene.
Besides those two scenes, I mostly remember the marketing being cool. Like 7-11s turning into Kwik-E-Marts.
I'm starting to think the "Simpsons decline"/"golden age Simpsons" is a myth. It's a thing Gen Xers/older Millennials latched onto to look "cool" and everyone just accepted it as gospel over the years.
Everyone has a different episode/season that they define as "the beginning of the end", none are consistent. I have heard people say this about episodes in seasons 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17, 19, 20, 23, or even as early as 4.
In 2004 nerds were already writing news articles/books about "the Simpsons has declined", but in 2023 you hear people say "It didn't go downhill until after the 2007 movie". In 2000 people said the jockey elves was the downfall, but in 2023 normies laugh at the jockey elves in "Simpsons funny moments" videos.
What does that tell us?
It's pretty consistent actually. Most people agree it went to shit around seasons 12-13, and that the decline was noticeable in 9-11. Some go earlier with the decline, and some people think the show was still decent to like 13-15, but that's rare. Very few people would call season 4 bad.
I agree. I'm sure it goes downhill at some point but I think a lot of the seasons just have a shift in humor. People trash on 13 but I love the Homer/Bart tethered episode.
I do know the point where I fell off was season 20 but idk if I could go back and binge the whole thing to figure it out
Just because some weirdos say the first 20 seasons are great doesn’t mean it’s an opinion held by many people
Anyone who actually sits down and watches it will agree it starts to fall off when all the original writers left and Matt Groening became more concerned with foot rubs than funny stories aka season 10
Matt Groening is not to thank for anything besides the signature overbites.
>Everyone has a different episode/season that they define as "the beginning of the end",
>What does that tell us?
If a TV show is steadily gradually consistently decreasing in quality, then different people with different tolerances for shit, will highlight different points in the TV show's history s the moment it became unacceptable to them.
This isn't difficult zoomey.
Who are you quoting?
A lot of people say that the simpsons died at season 12--8---15--etc...
But i honest to god believe that the movie is the very moment the simpsons died for good, early 2000s seasons werent the best and struggled but they had still a decent amount of good episodes, but boy oh boy after the movie it was like the quality went from mid to pls cancel us tier.
I have a huge soft spot for it as it was like one of the few movies my family had when I was really young. But overall it's kind of just alright. Homer is really out of character just to get the plot going and Lisa has the most forced storyline possible just to have her do something in the movie.
The naked Bart scene ruined me for life
I've always loved the look of the movie logo. I wonder if there were other design ideas they toyed around with before landing on the doughnut.
I thought it was funny and about as good as a 00s Simpsons media could be expected to be.
>What do you think of it?
I loved it, but I was probably 9 years old when it came out. I also loved the 3 Rugrats movies. "The Movie" "in Paris" and "meets Thornberries"
Not bad.
I thought it was pretty good.
90's Simpsons is God-tier. 2000's Simpsons feels like a light version of Family Guy, without much heart or soul.
Shots. Fired.
So?
That's when the Simpsons died for me. It felt souless. Yeah, I said it.
The movie was shit but I do remember the pig and Bart's naked penis so there's that