DBZ is universal. It doesn't matter whether you are Russian, Arab or German, it's approachable and enjoyable for everybody. US shit is only made for the US audience and nobody else so it's inherently unrelatable for the rest of the world besides some non-countries like canada maybe that think like them.
another series would be digimon, no joke digimon is so popular in latin america that they have influenced new products to the point that japanese, american and chinese insult them for it
>US shit is only made for the US audience and nobody else so it's inherently unrelatable for the rest of the world besides some non-countries like canada maybe that think like them.
Well you aren't wrong, everything is designed to appeal to the demographics of one of the big American cities, which means you end up with stupid shit that most of the rest of the world don't care about. And then it's exported anyway.
It actually is, you aren't one of those Eurogays who thinks thinks the country is 50% black or that there isn't any self-segregation because you believe everything you see in television propaganda shows right?
American patriotism is such a shitheap that it's indistinguishable from mockery, and loops back around to inspiring pride, it is needless to say that I would watch this and probably love it.
This unironically just looks like a late 2000s parody cartoon. America's been made fun of for so fricking long that it makes fun of itself now, this kind of stereotyping doesn't offend people the way it does Latin Americans.
There's admittedly some cultural aspects as well involved. LatAm has developed over the time (well, it was always there anyway, but I noted recently it escalated even further) some grudges about USA's depictions of them, at best because often it seemed they confused South America with just "another part of Mexico", in some other cases is because for LatAm, people are often much less invested in dealing with Americans trying to make inaccurate depictions and then make them look accurate. There's silver linings like Encanto from Disney, but when people started to complain they were too white latinos really started to get annoyed because they thought "gringos" cannot even fathom our countries are "mixed race" all over the place the color skin is very fitting for the average watcher there.
The fact latinos tend to differentiate others more in relation to cultural behavior rather than appeareance also usually means for example an argentinian might ocasionally feel much more familiar with a peruvian than a chicano since a chicano likely would adapt to the USA culture, keeping some customs but otherwise living in a very different environment thay affects his behavior, while at least Peru and Argentina might have differences here and there but the cultural root and blueprint is similar enough they could converge in a lot of ways.
Lima accent? pretty sure, it used to be the standard for south america during the colony. Now deep Peru, as spanish as a second language? maybe, spanish is more about grammar with straight forward pronunciation.
I've actually known a few people from the non-Brazilian parts of South America and they're definitely pissed that America seems to view everything south of them as Mexico. Especially since a lot of those countries kind of look down on Mexico.
Likely because Mexico is the closest one to the USA, and the anglo and hispanic cultures have been feuding for ages, at first between Spain and England and later Latam and USA.
Which is odd since Mexico here doesn't have a widespread dismissiveness of the rest of latam and among the latin countries they're probably the ones most grudging their interactions with the USA, not that stops migration because economic issues.
There's however some conflicts with central-america but again greatly put of migration pressures since people from central-america merely see Mexico as a midterm when moving to the USA.
But I can't help most productions there only remember Mexico, Hollywood has become symbol of lowest common denominator and if weren't because of the mexican border they likely wouldn't care for mexicans either.
Don't know what the frick anons are smoking saying they want this beyond "WE CAN TAKE A JOKE GUIZ". It'd be on par with Little Bush or Allen Gregory in terms of cleverness and humor.
It was mostly manufactured outrage. If it wasn’t the language, there would have been something else people (who were never going to watch it anyway) would have picked out.
The smug response from the actor really did make things worse, though. I thought the whole controversy was dumb culture war shit, but that haughty look on her face as she spouted actual bullshit in her patronizing voice was rage inducing. Her whole “you’re the product of conquistadors” thing was pretty fricking tonedeaf.
Yeah, the whole drama would have ended if it was just the creator's response of "This show isn't about Mexicans, it's about chicanos in the USA who speak Spanglish"
Especially because a cement commercial made in Peru started to become a meme for being "Primos" but actually good among hispanics, despite the thing being a little bit of a non-traumatic PSA.
>but that haughty look on her face as she spouted actual bullshit in her patronizing voice was rage inducing. Her whole “you’re the product of conquistadors” thing was pretty fricking tonedeaf.
The endresult of fishmouth Californians who think they're the second coming of Che Guevara because they made a gay character with a half-shaved haircut in a children's cartoon, listen to Taylor Swift, and have an ethnic surname (7th generation immigrant).
>The smug response from the actor really did make things worse, though. I thought the whole controversy was dumb culture war shit, but that haughty look on her face as she spouted actual bullshit in her patronizing voice was rage inducing. Her whole “you’re the product of conquistadors” thing was pretty fricking tonedeaf.
It was hilarious how it went over, making everything worse for the crew. Were I in charge of the show I'd be cursing up a storm over what that girl did.
Yes and No. Some of the complaints are justified but at the same time it escalated too much and the reaction of the creador and the VA didn't help the situation.
So which will create more controversy, changing the theme song to them saying "Oigan Primos" or sticking with the original since the show is supposed to be about americanized chicanos who barely know Spanish-let alone correct grammar.
The only show Disney has ever canceled before release was Three Caballeros, and that was to try and help Nu-ducktales. This is their new quirky brown e-girl show, they aren’t canceling it until at least 2 seasons
It's amazing how this show ripped off both The Loud House and the Casagrandes at the same time, took none of the good stuff from either, has a much shittier artstyle, and took more from the failed spinoff only remembered for the genki hapas girl instead of the show that had a crazy amount of hype and fan participation months before it even started airing.
Seriously. I found out this show was announced LAST YEAR. I never even heard of it until Latin America freaked out about it. And the only fanart I've seen of it was memebait mocking it, or that fat Lucy wannabe.
The Loud House was already getting quadruple digit nunbers of fanart and fanfics just from the prerelease shorts. It was already everywhere in early 2016 before it totally blew up that summer.
What even was the point of this? For Disney to have their own Loud House? Because it looks like they got it, but the monkey's paw curled a finger.
Even if Primos is better written than the Loud House, I stand by what I said years ago on this board: a show about a large family is always doomed because all members of that family have to share the main character role, and unlike real life, cartoons need distinct personalities between characters, so the more main characters you have, the simpler and less dimensional they have to be. It was manageable for the Loud House because it was trying to emulate a newspaper comic strip in cartoon form, which not even the show itself remembers was supposed to be the case after the creator was fired.
Primos is just a generic looking slice of life Disney cartoon aimed at Twitter trying to ride off the dissipating fumes of the Loyd House's success back in 2016-2017. Only 3 or 4 of the characters look defined or interesting. But there are 15? So either some siblings/cousins get way more focus than others or they're all 1D and we cycle through them every dozen episodes or so.
I don’t think this even needs to be the case though.
I have 5 siblings, and I grew up in the same house as my 3 cousins, on top of having 5 other cousins within a 3 year age range of me living in the same town whom I saw on a regular basis.
I never knew any of my sibling’s friends, they never knew my friends. and we all did our own thing 90% of the time. We only really hung out at dinner or in weekend mornings when we watched tv or played video games.
I was playing baseball while they were doing wrestling, I was doing aikido while they were playing football, etc etc. we never had any extra curricular activities that lined up.
I have always hated the notion that a large family has to be in each other’s business at all time, or that someone has to be suffocated by trying to find the remote or whatever. Even now as a adults, none of us talk to each other unless we’re at a family gathering. I literally talk to my brothers maybe twice a year, three times if you count Christmas. I talk to my sisters more frequently but only because they ask for help with stuff every so often. My cousins? I saw one of them for the first time in 3 years last week, his brother I haven’t seen since 2019, and some of the others I haven’t seen in even longer.
The truth is, we are all different people with different interests and different lives. Was their family drama and sitcom-like moments growing up? Yes, did we have chaos? Yes. We’re there annoyances? Yes(I literally did not get my own bed until I was 15 for example) but we also spent as much time away from each other as possible as kids and teenagers and I can’t imagine it’s not like that for other massive families.
The way Loud House and Casagrandes depicts the large family dynamic makes me feel like none of the writers had more than 3 siblings tops
>The way Loud House and Casagrandes depicts the large family dynamic makes me feel like none of the writers had more than 3 siblings tops
Well, yeah. Why would that surprise you, writers don't know what they write about nowadays.
Even if Primos is better written than the Loud House, I stand by what I said years ago on this board: a show about a large family is always doomed because all members of that family have to share the main character role, and unlike real life, cartoons need distinct personalities between characters, so the more main characters you have, the simpler and less dimensional they have to be. It was manageable for the Loud House because it was trying to emulate a newspaper comic strip in cartoon form, which not even the show itself remembers was supposed to be the case after the creator was fired.
Primos is just a generic looking slice of life Disney cartoon aimed at Twitter trying to ride off the dissipating fumes of the Loyd House's success back in 2016-2017. Only 3 or 4 of the characters look defined or interesting. But there are 15? So either some siblings/cousins get way more focus than others or they're all 1D and we cycle through them every dozen episodes or so.
Sounds real fun.
Same. I grew up with 6 siblings. The Loud House is funny at times because I could go "Yeah, X/Y/Z was totally like that" and "I can relate to that feeling" especially anything involving only having one bathroot, but it got too caught up in itself to make it really relatable, especially after they started adding all that sci fi bullshit.
Funny enough, the only one of my siblings I'm close to nowadays would be the Lucy
Could be rework, could be strategic delay for bad press to die down, could be schedule reshuffling due to the strike. A lot of potential reasons right now, but none of them are good signs for the show. Even a strike-related delay is neutral at best.
I can’t imagine the strike affected this show. They likely recorded their lines over a year ago, and the scripts were weren’t and finalized before that. This delay must be to adjust earnings metrics or something like that
>I can’t imagine the strike affected this show.
Not directly. But they're likely rationing new show debuts. Otherwise they'd run out of reserves, or the gap between the current and next season may become too great..
Most likely a delay in hopes the backlash dies down and to keep new content scattered in case the strike continues.
Yeah, the whole drama would have ended if it was just the creator's response of "This show isn't about Mexicans, it's about chicanos in the USA who speak Spanglish"
That would have caused the same controversy. Instead of the steortypes, they would complain about encouraging chicanos to keep speaking spanish incorrectly.
It takes 6 months to rewrite a new intro because of a grammatical error. Amazing!
See the thing was that it was "her personal life"... that was her 1st mistake because her life was fricking BORING in a trite way. Noone latino actually enjoys being trapped in a house full of their cousins.
She wanted to make a latino themed show, just make it Dragon Ball. There ya go, problem solved.
>She wanted to make a latino themed show, just make it Dragon Ball.
A show about a Latino befriending a Saiyan would break Latin American sales records
You mean Janaurx.
let me guess, it's so they can scrub the things people didn't like about the theme song from the show itself?
No, it's so they can teach the writers proper Spanish, before re-recording the episodes.
I heard it's good, but doesn't it end on a cliffhanger? I don't want to get invested to show that doesn't have an ending.
That series had its end, in a way.
They beat the bad guy, but they tease his return. So it’s a semi-cliffhanger
It's the softest "cliffhanger" ever, you can still see it as a definite conclusion
It was more of a sequel hook for a potential next season.
They need that much time to find a person with actual Spanish skills.
Don't gatekeep your one chance at becoming mainstream.
Yeah, but in the other thread I saw, OP didn't have a source.
Oy Vey Primxs
>they deleted my post against the israelites
Fricking kek
wait, "primos"? did they remove "oye"?
No, the title was always Primos. "Oye Primos" is the catchphrase of the main character.
>already have a mandela effect
wild
Not a Mandela effect. It's the scream in the opening.
>he doesn't remember
they already got him bros...
Its because E-celeb youtubers were saying the show was named "Oye Primos"
No amount of retooling is gonna fix that wreck.
This shit's not cancelled yet? Whom did she suck off?
*sigh*
Stop making dogshit and make Hispania Super Lucha fighting action.
DBZ is universal. It doesn't matter whether you are Russian, Arab or German, it's approachable and enjoyable for everybody. US shit is only made for the US audience and nobody else so it's inherently unrelatable for the rest of the world besides some non-countries like canada maybe that think like them.
another series would be digimon, no joke digimon is so popular in latin america that they have influenced new products to the point that japanese, american and chinese insult them for it
>US shit is only made for the US audience and nobody else so it's inherently unrelatable for the rest of the world besides some non-countries like canada maybe that think like them.
Well you aren't wrong, everything is designed to appeal to the demographics of one of the big American cities, which means you end up with stupid shit that most of the rest of the world don't care about. And then it's exported anyway.
Mucha Lucha and El Tigre were huge hits in SA so it can work, its just that chicanos have like no actual brain for it.
Just kill it already. No one wants to see this crap.
What's /dbs/ opinion on this show?
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LA CREATURA OIGAN PRIMA
>Only americans are sensitiv-
It's just bantz, sister
Why can't you handle the banter?
>3/4 white
Disgusting and not at all representative of the US
It actually is, you aren't one of those Eurogays who thinks thinks the country is 50% black or that there isn't any self-segregation because you believe everything you see in television propaganda shows right?
Eat shit, israelite.
would watch
some one make this please
Thats what Primos is. It takes place in america and the MC is mixed white and latina
I'm interested
American patriotism is such a shitheap that it's indistinguishable from mockery, and loops back around to inspiring pride, it is needless to say that I would watch this and probably love it.
This unironically just looks like a late 2000s parody cartoon. America's been made fun of for so fricking long that it makes fun of itself now, this kind of stereotyping doesn't offend people the way it does Latin Americans.
There's admittedly some cultural aspects as well involved. LatAm has developed over the time (well, it was always there anyway, but I noted recently it escalated even further) some grudges about USA's depictions of them, at best because often it seemed they confused South America with just "another part of Mexico", in some other cases is because for LatAm, people are often much less invested in dealing with Americans trying to make inaccurate depictions and then make them look accurate. There's silver linings like Encanto from Disney, but when people started to complain they were too white latinos really started to get annoyed because they thought "gringos" cannot even fathom our countries are "mixed race" all over the place the color skin is very fitting for the average watcher there.
The fact latinos tend to differentiate others more in relation to cultural behavior rather than appeareance also usually means for example an argentinian might ocasionally feel much more familiar with a peruvian than a chicano since a chicano likely would adapt to the USA culture, keeping some customs but otherwise living in a very different environment thay affects his behavior, while at least Peru and Argentina might have differences here and there but the cultural root and blueprint is similar enough they could converge in a lot of ways.
> Peru and Argentina might have differences here and there but the cultural root and blueprint is similar enough.
You couldn't be more wrong.
I know, they still kinda hate each other, but if they were that different they wouldn't vote the same kind of stuff, just like the rest of latam.
argentinans can understand the peruvians accent?
Lima accent? pretty sure, it used to be the standard for south america during the colony. Now deep Peru, as spanish as a second language? maybe, spanish is more about grammar with straight forward pronunciation.
Honestly all I know is that I have appreciation for the peruvian dubs.
At least because of that intro song of the Red Baron from an anime.
I've actually known a few people from the non-Brazilian parts of South America and they're definitely pissed that America seems to view everything south of them as Mexico. Especially since a lot of those countries kind of look down on Mexico.
Likely because Mexico is the closest one to the USA, and the anglo and hispanic cultures have been feuding for ages, at first between Spain and England and later Latam and USA.
Which is odd since Mexico here doesn't have a widespread dismissiveness of the rest of latam and among the latin countries they're probably the ones most grudging their interactions with the USA, not that stops migration because economic issues.
There's however some conflicts with central-america but again greatly put of migration pressures since people from central-america merely see Mexico as a midterm when moving to the USA.
But I can't help most productions there only remember Mexico, Hollywood has become symbol of lowest common denominator and if weren't because of the mexican border they likely wouldn't care for mexicans either.
I love that everytime an artist tries to do "stereotypical and bland american protagonist" it just ends up being Jonny Test
Don't know what the frick anons are smoking saying they want this beyond "WE CAN TAKE A JOKE GUIZ". It'd be on par with Little Bush or Allen Gregory in terms of cleverness and humor.
That's my 21st birthday
Why does it have to be so hideous? is that the culture?
Coño
BIG
This drama was so stupid
Not as stupid as that shitty show.
It was mostly manufactured outrage. If it wasn’t the language, there would have been something else people (who were never going to watch it anyway) would have picked out.
The smug response from the actor really did make things worse, though. I thought the whole controversy was dumb culture war shit, but that haughty look on her face as she spouted actual bullshit in her patronizing voice was rage inducing. Her whole “you’re the product of conquistadors” thing was pretty fricking tonedeaf.
Yeah, the whole drama would have ended if it was just the creator's response of "This show isn't about Mexicans, it's about chicanos in the USA who speak Spanglish"
Especially because a cement commercial made in Peru started to become a meme for being "Primos" but actually good among hispanics, despite the thing being a little bit of a non-traumatic PSA.
>but that haughty look on her face as she spouted actual bullshit in her patronizing voice was rage inducing. Her whole “you’re the product of conquistadors” thing was pretty fricking tonedeaf.
The endresult of fishmouth Californians who think they're the second coming of Che Guevara because they made a gay character with a half-shaved haircut in a children's cartoon, listen to Taylor Swift, and have an ethnic surname (7th generation immigrant).
>The smug response from the actor really did make things worse, though. I thought the whole controversy was dumb culture war shit, but that haughty look on her face as she spouted actual bullshit in her patronizing voice was rage inducing. Her whole “you’re the product of conquistadors” thing was pretty fricking tonedeaf.
It was hilarious how it went over, making everything worse for the crew. Were I in charge of the show I'd be cursing up a storm over what that girl did.
You should be firing her instead
Yes and No. Some of the complaints are justified but at the same time it escalated too much and the reaction of the creador and the VA didn't help the situation.
So which will create more controversy, changing the theme song to them saying "Oigan Primos" or sticking with the original since the show is supposed to be about americanized chicanos who barely know Spanish-let alone correct grammar.
Fixing it would be better
Not every song has to have the song name in the lyrics that's just autistic thinking
When will it be canceled for good?
The only show Disney has ever canceled before release was Three Caballeros, and that was to try and help Nu-ducktales. This is their new quirky brown e-girl show, they aren’t canceling it until at least 2 seasons
It's amazing how this show ripped off both The Loud House and the Casagrandes at the same time, took none of the good stuff from either, has a much shittier artstyle, and took more from the failed spinoff only remembered for the genki hapas girl instead of the show that had a crazy amount of hype and fan participation months before it even started airing.
Seriously. I found out this show was announced LAST YEAR. I never even heard of it until Latin America freaked out about it. And the only fanart I've seen of it was memebait mocking it, or that fat Lucy wannabe.
The Loud House was already getting quadruple digit nunbers of fanart and fanfics just from the prerelease shorts. It was already everywhere in early 2016 before it totally blew up that summer.
What even was the point of this? For Disney to have their own Loud House? Because it looks like they got it, but the monkey's paw curled a finger.
>took none of the good stuff from either
Can't take what's not there.
Primos somehow comes off as a super shitty version of the Casagrandes which was already a shitty version of the Loud House.
And I thought since the start that the Loud House was one of the shittiest Nickelodeon shows ever made.
That's impressive.
That's like making a shitty version of the R-Zone, which was already a shitty version of the Virtual Boy.
The Louds are white, and that's no good.
Even though Hispanics 50:1 prefer the Louds to the Santiagos/Casagrandes. Californian writers know better than those silly Mexicos!
Even if Primos is better written than the Loud House, I stand by what I said years ago on this board: a show about a large family is always doomed because all members of that family have to share the main character role, and unlike real life, cartoons need distinct personalities between characters, so the more main characters you have, the simpler and less dimensional they have to be. It was manageable for the Loud House because it was trying to emulate a newspaper comic strip in cartoon form, which not even the show itself remembers was supposed to be the case after the creator was fired.
Primos is just a generic looking slice of life Disney cartoon aimed at Twitter trying to ride off the dissipating fumes of the Loyd House's success back in 2016-2017. Only 3 or 4 of the characters look defined or interesting. But there are 15? So either some siblings/cousins get way more focus than others or they're all 1D and we cycle through them every dozen episodes or so.
Sounds real fun.
I don’t think this even needs to be the case though.
I have 5 siblings, and I grew up in the same house as my 3 cousins, on top of having 5 other cousins within a 3 year age range of me living in the same town whom I saw on a regular basis.
I never knew any of my sibling’s friends, they never knew my friends. and we all did our own thing 90% of the time. We only really hung out at dinner or in weekend mornings when we watched tv or played video games.
I was playing baseball while they were doing wrestling, I was doing aikido while they were playing football, etc etc. we never had any extra curricular activities that lined up.
I have always hated the notion that a large family has to be in each other’s business at all time, or that someone has to be suffocated by trying to find the remote or whatever. Even now as a adults, none of us talk to each other unless we’re at a family gathering. I literally talk to my brothers maybe twice a year, three times if you count Christmas. I talk to my sisters more frequently but only because they ask for help with stuff every so often. My cousins? I saw one of them for the first time in 3 years last week, his brother I haven’t seen since 2019, and some of the others I haven’t seen in even longer.
The truth is, we are all different people with different interests and different lives. Was their family drama and sitcom-like moments growing up? Yes, did we have chaos? Yes. We’re there annoyances? Yes(I literally did not get my own bed until I was 15 for example) but we also spent as much time away from each other as possible as kids and teenagers and I can’t imagine it’s not like that for other massive families.
The way Loud House and Casagrandes depicts the large family dynamic makes me feel like none of the writers had more than 3 siblings tops
>The way Loud House and Casagrandes depicts the large family dynamic makes me feel like none of the writers had more than 3 siblings tops
Well, yeah. Why would that surprise you, writers don't know what they write about nowadays.
Same. I grew up with 6 siblings. The Loud House is funny at times because I could go "Yeah, X/Y/Z was totally like that" and "I can relate to that feeling" especially anything involving only having one bathroot, but it got too caught up in itself to make it really relatable, especially after they started adding all that sci fi bullshit.
Funny enough, the only one of my siblings I'm close to nowadays would be the Lucy
Is it to rework it, or just a regular delay/hiatus on already completed episodes that generally happens to a lot of animated shows anyway?
Could be rework, could be strategic delay for bad press to die down, could be schedule reshuffling due to the strike. A lot of potential reasons right now, but none of them are good signs for the show. Even a strike-related delay is neutral at best.
I can’t imagine the strike affected this show. They likely recorded their lines over a year ago, and the scripts were weren’t and finalized before that. This delay must be to adjust earnings metrics or something like that
>I can’t imagine the strike affected this show.
Not directly. But they're likely rationing new show debuts. Otherwise they'd run out of reserves, or the gap between the current and next season may become too great..
Most likely a delay in hopes the backlash dies down and to keep new content scattered in case the strike continues.
That would have caused the same controversy. Instead of the steortypes, they would complain about encouraging chicanos to keep speaking spanish incorrectly.
It takes 6 months to rewrite a new intro because of a grammatical error. Amazing!
See the thing was that it was "her personal life"... that was her 1st mistake because her life was fricking BORING in a trite way. Noone latino actually enjoys being trapped in a house full of their cousins.
She wanted to make a latino themed show, just make it Dragon Ball. There ya go, problem solved.
>She wanted to make a latino themed show, just make it Dragon Ball.
A show about a Latino befriending a Saiyan would break Latin American sales records
>show starring barefoot brown e-girl
>can't enjoy it because the artstyle is hideous
Every one of these characters looks like they fricking reek.
move it again
move it to the bin now.
>Created by a israelite