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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this guy is an underrated actor
    is he respected in the japans?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They used to like him but now think he's a sellout after 47 Ronin

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They like him again after Shogun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They like him again after Shogun

        what are his best kinos

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I personally like 47 ronin, he's also in bullet train.
          He's in the new MK movie as scorpion but he's meh, the guy who plays Raiden plays the guy he beheaded in the last episode.
          He's also in the last samurai

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Twilight Samurai

            is most of his work samuraislop?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >samuraislop
              stop this

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                stop what?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                stop being slop

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                stop posting stop

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Twilight Samurai

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i liked him in Lost

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            based

            on god no cap??

            stale meme

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >stale meme
              fr?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >stale meme
              decidedly unbussin opinion

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not helix, thats for sure. Him in that show is the definition of actors being truly limited by script. God, what a fricking trash show

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          he was in rush hour 3

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        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Last Samurai

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The City That Never Sleeps: Shinjuku Shark

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's very good in the Wolverine movie set in Japan

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He saved the Westworld season 2 with his presence

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >he "saved" the worst season of a bad show

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > implying season 3 isn't the worst

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >not season 4

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        a sellout for starring in an objectively better film than any japanese one that came around the same period?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was him and Fumi Nikaido who made the show unforgettable. She has such a delicate voice, soft as silk, and she carries herself with such grace. But she also has a very intimigating aura around her and crazy screen presence, she totally commands the room while being a 5'0 woman. I though I was way too old to have a crush on an actress, but I guess not quite.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Im so glad Magima san lived.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah you are just waifugayging

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          someone say waifu gayging?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just relax and appreciate that this show has four top-tier cuties for different tastes instead of baboons who barely look like women.

            >CaoCaoLaughing.gif

            Somebody post the "crafty villain" webm

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Kek, until season 2, the usual suspects have this show high on their deconstruction agenda.
              Season 2 being announced was the end.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Did they forget that Japan is a bunch of hills?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Hills are easy to miss when you squint all the time

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's just outside Edo (Tokyo), which is situated in the Kanto plain, Honshu's largest expanse of flat land. The only place you'd find more flat land in Japan is Hokkaido, which at this point was not permanently settled by anybody except Ainu.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            look at my hard nuts, lady!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hard to believe that someone as intimidating was played by someone thit cute

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          she looks cuter in this picture than in the show.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They aged her up a bit for the show with makeup, she's actually 4 years younger than Mariko's actress

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              * Two years younger

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can always watch her other jap dramas. Her latest one was with a korean last season.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            She's a mix of sexy and cute and I'm not going to let Sexy stupid love stop me from using that description.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Disgusting.
            Might as well be a Black person standing there.
            Why did they put a decent lady from the Jap-ans with a asiatic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        she was shit. peak "I'M ACTING!!!!"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think you mean Jap-ans

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bongs are weird, some still call Canada the Canada's

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, he means Zipangu.

        ----

        Hi from Finland!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      japan hasnt had a single good, moderately budgeted film,since 1995 and love letter, what even is there for him to act in? some rurouni kenshin anime garbage? the yearly godzilla adaptation? quirky weird comedies with ensemble casts like cha no aji and survive style +5? some hideaki anno pretentious crap?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he's done nothing wrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      he 4d chessed using his most loyal subjects lives into doing explicitly what he promised he wouldn't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They knew their duty well, and he would not yield. It was for the betterment of Japan

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it was for the betterment of his own power. Casually killing your own people to provoke a war is no bueno dude

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This. There was no real threat to Japan's stability displayed in the series outside of Christians that he is completely fine to deal with, just as Ishido was. Meanwhile Ishido was content to "enjoy the place he carved out for himself" and remain a silk-gloved despot in tandem with the dowager.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Ishido fricked up by not being as cruel as him. He even gave him the 40 days of mourning shit when at that point he was completely routed and could've been assassinated or forced to make an appearance. It's not like his own son attempting to assassinate someone couldn't have been pinned on him. But he only tried the assassination bit too late when his back was against the wall. He tried to play by the rules for too long. He also would've only married the psycho woman but instead she chickened out and after the show irl she was forced to kill herself and her son was too by Toranaga. She must've felt reaaaaaaally stupid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mariko and Ochiba's fates were the worst by far
                Toranaga sends Mariko to convince Ochiba, Mariko honestly believed she was saving her friend but unknowingly she send her to her death because Toranaga wanted them death for years. Then Mariko sacrifices herself and with that she makes Ochiba seal her fate by siding with her killed. Absolutely vile

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah it was pretty fricked up. But I liked that they didn't give any woman even one real girl power moment. They're all just pawns and/or property for the men. They don't have any real impetus at all. They don't even know how owned they are, they're just pieces on a board. It's refreshingly brutal. That's what happened to them back in the day. He even hypes her up before he sends her out kek, she literally died thinking it meant something, that it accomplished something positive.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He didn't have as much latitude for cruelty as Toranaga after he put the other councilors under house arrest. From that moment he had a tiger by the tail and had to walk on eggshells to keep them from getting loose and turning on him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Promises to protect his friend's wife and son
      >Kills them at the first chance he has
      That and sacrificing friends like they were nothing

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Trump biopic

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bad

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Show miss-stepped hard by having the dowager flat out say this in like episode 4 or 5. Also it should have been clear that the vibe was off and he was a sociopath when he called Anjin childish after the gardener sepuku. Anyway, Yabushige was amazing and stole the show for me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah they needed a vibe check fr.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        on god no cap??

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She isn't the MC and she's barely a character.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Tokugawa, the great unifier if Japan, ushering in the first and only peaceful time of japan

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >peaceful
      >genocide mixed with cultural and economic stagnation for 200 years
      yeah

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well, I should say as peacefully as a mongoloid can get.
        Ended wars from 1601 or whenever untill the late 1800s

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Europe is constantly at war too

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Where did I suggest eurocucks aren't trash?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cultural and economic stagnation
        in other words, stability
        >genocide
        justified against those threatening stability

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >genocide
        ???
        >cultural and economic stagnation
        The Edo Period saw over 150 years of growth and flourishing arts. Even as the economic stagnation set in the latter part of it, the art scene was still vibrant.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >economic stagnation
        ah yes of course, israelites weren't running rampant creating money from thin air for number to go up 24/7 so that means economy was le bad

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Emperor Franz Josef biopic

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >villain

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how isnt he a villain

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they put a blue filter over this whole show?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      to make you mad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's just what Western Canada looks like. It's pretty jarring whenever I cross the border in from Washington.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Japans are naturally blue

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is Toranaga if he lived in present day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thought it was kojima for a sec

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          damn

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          kojima eats

          This is Toranaga if he lived in present day

          hideo cooks

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This homosexual was such an unhelpful moron in Lost.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >CaoCaoLaughing.gif

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait Toranaga kills Ochiba and the heir???

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just like in the real life events
      He killed Yodogimi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, 13 years after the events of Shogun take place. The heir commited seppuku, Yodo-dono (Ochiba) said to have killed herself too, but her body was never found and verified. She had a good run all things considered.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In the book it's implied it happens waaaay earlier if not almost immediately, not 13 years later

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was actually talking about what happened irl

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's nor mariko. The only character more despicable than him

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The catholic cucks take the prize

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the whole "toranaga ackshully 4d keikakud all this" seems like a cope by the japanese. just like bismarck he was in the right place at the right time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's both

      he was at the right place at the right time, didn't have the strongest hand (not the weakest either) but played the board excellently and won. have to give him credit

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Does nothing
    >"Heh, arr accolding to pran."
    >Wins
    This shit is literally just Peaky Blinders set in Japan and without cringe rock music.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This shit is literally just Peaky Blinders set in Japan and without cringe rock music.
      It's based on a self-insert novel by a British boomer. Of course it's power fantasy shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >boomer
        He was born in 1921. The baby boom started in 1945.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He isn't, thoughever. He ended civil wars, unified Japan and established a regime that brought 250 years of peace, economic growth and urbanization. Arguably, the greatest figure in Japanese history.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Stalin industrialized the USSR and Mao won the war against those fricking sparrows.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Take power via brutal means
        >Vastly improve society
        vs.
        >Take power via brutal means
        >zillions die of famine in your communist shithole
        totally the same thing

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Character is clearly evil
    >Everyone loves him anyway and wants him to live because his actor is great
    How does he do it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And the person he was based on was "toranaga's" closest advisor and outlived him but a few months.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Charisma. He steals every single scene he's in, even while sharing the screen with a titan like Sanada. He's so charismatic in this role and has insane screen presence.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's ichi the killer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i just realised he's literally a japanese version of titus pullo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Name literally one bad thing that Pullo did

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          died

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Took time away from more interesting plotlines such as ceasar

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He upset the wa of Vorenus's insula when he killed Eirene's boyfriend.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's dumb enough that I can relate to him while also being successful enough that I can self insert.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its amusing how he's so treacherous but everyone around him knows so he's constantly out manoeuvred or getting his attempts to turncoat blocked, then he [SPOILER] Resigns to seppuku and gives a relatively subdued death poem [/SPOILER]

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Finished the first episode a couple of days ago. This one's good, I'm savoring it. Gonna wait a week to watch each episode.
    Feel free to post spoilers, I'm not a redditor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yabushige commits seppuku in the last episode.
      Blackthorn never gets his ship back.
      Toranaga is lying about literally everything.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        but he does get his ship back, even if it's wrecked

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He will never leave, and his ship will be continually burned and scuttled time and time again because he's Toranaga's pet and he's not allowed to leave or kill himself. Him being allowed to resurface it and restore it is just a thing he allows to keep the Aijin sane. This is all said in the last episode.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Toranaga will burn it everytime it's ready to sail
          Blackthorne (like the character he's based on, William Adams) will never leave Japan and die there

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think that it becomes Stockholm syndrome, because when Tokugawa died Adams didn't return to England.
            I know he had a life in Japan but I think that it's curious.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >protagonist is cleary the villian
    WTF you all may make me watch this & I said I wont cause its not in English

    frick that chink shit

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are no heroes or villains in war, as long as you win, like Toranaga says

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >History
      >His-Story
      Powerful.
      And unironically 100% true.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This character is the daughter of the man who had Yasuke as his retainer ~8 years prior to the events of the show.
    She was BLACKED

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      uh, I thought she was Hideyoshi's concubine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, like 4 years after Yasuke blacked her.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >show starts off 10/10
    >englishman vs spainard bantz
    >protestants vs catholics
    >japanese torturing the ship crew
    >prostitute listening in on conversations and sewing demise between leaders
    >boats
    >secret spy samurai

    then the show goes 6/10
    >japanese clearly morons who value nonsense like 10 years to learn to pour tea
    >muh council votes!
    >muh honor
    >muh wife
    >muh secret plans that get my best friend and son killed
    >main character turns into a useless weakling

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      filtered

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >show is called shogun
    >there are no shoguns in it

    I spent the whole show waiting for the showdown between Torunaga and Ishido and for him to become Shogun but nothing happens. he maybe wins and maybe becomes Shogun off screen after the show finishes.

    Still a good show and I would want a season 2 except it will probably be trash because it was only good because it was based on a boom.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's historical fiction, he wins, b3comes shogun, dies a few years later, his dynasty stays intact until the mid 1800s when America raped Japan.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >America
        America just lubed up Japan. It was the Euros doing the raping.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I thought it ended perfectly, even if I was expecting sekigahara battle and a 'coronation' of sorts as the ending. And I agree, I'm skeptical about the following seasons.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Waste Quints for a dumb show.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Rabinowitz
      >Wachtel

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Asian men hate the show because a white guy fricks Asian women
    >Catholics hate the show because John Blackthorne hates them
    >Protestants hate the show because John didn't do a whole lot to defeat the Catholics
    >Bookgays hate the show because it didn't copy the books 1:1
    >Marvelgays hate the show because there is no soulless epic battle or orange slices
    >Illiterates hate the show because they have to read subtitles
    >Normies hate the show because because Japan is too weird for them
    >Zoomers hate the show because it's longer than 5 seconds and thats too much time away from their phones
    >Contrarians hate the show because it's good
    >Boomers hate the show because a 1980 version exists and "Old Good, New Bad" is their slogan
    >Animegays hate the show because Toranaga doesn't have an episode long fight with Ishido that takes place mid-air with their katanas clashing a thousand times a second
    >Lefties hate the show because a strong black woman doesn't become Shogun
    >/misc/ hates the show because it didn't have John become Shogun while turning Japan into his personal harem
    >Lobsters hate the show because there is boiling water
    >Only the cultured few who wanted to see a story that remained authentic and true to the Japanese culture of the period enjoyed the show.
    Water flows through stones
    The sticks and twigs may not pass
    The stream becomes pure

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Water flows through stones
      >The sticks and twigs may not pass
      >The stream becomes pure
      Did you write this? It's great tbh
      I'm stealing it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate frogposters

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Lobsters hate the show because there is boiling water
      Legit chuckled.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Water flows through stones
      >The sticks and twigs may not pass
      >The stream becomes pure
      FRICKING CHECKED

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fricking BASED

      Autumn comes, leaves fall
      Once strong trees become frail, weak
      The wolf sleeps soundly

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      now post the unedited version

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >protagonist is cleary the villian

    Seinfeld

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    Anonymous
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  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    in on ep 4, did they give whyboi a troony consort? that b***h looks like a dude in a kimono. ive seen gohatto, i know what dudes in kimonos look like

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been reading tai-pan after finishing shogun, I fricking hate the chinese

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is the book good?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dunno, I'm still in pag 1

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Taipan is my favorite its about the start of the colony of hong kong

        its fricking great

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ye

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hes not the villain.
    His plan could have succeeded with no one dying at all but his vassals wanted to throw their lives away.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only a strong ruler could unite Japan against the foreign devils.

    Why the frick do you think the Dutch were there?

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the show was boring and makes Japs look batshit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      japs are batshit. did you miss the last 100 years?

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Overall I liked Shogun but the ending was a big let down
    It felt like they were building up to a final climatic battle and then the show just ends

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Battle would've been cool but I didn't mind the route they went with and it felt in line with Toranaga's character who seemed reluctant to fight

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only real complaint I had was that they basically cut like 90% of the relationship between mariko and blackthorne. Like they only get together right before her husband comes back, then they are split for the rest of the show until her death. It makes his feelings at the end feel less earned.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >one European ship could solo Japan's entire Navy
    lol

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm watching the first episode, I have no fricking idea what's going on and it's nearly finished

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone here is a fricking weeb so most had some knowledge of the Sengoku period.
      I guess it can be confusing if you don't know anything about it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a weeb too but the shit here is very specific to the warring states period which I never really gave a frick about, never played dynasty warriors or any of the other strategy shit about that period

        What's the motivation for them not killing the English guy

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They keep him alive to frick with the Catholics.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > still looking at things in terms of heroes and villains.
    Shameful display.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a power game. If you go into this show thinking there le good guys and le bad guys like it's a fricking Marvel movie you are a complete moron.

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