>Friedkin was wry about his mishaps and mistakes. Remembering how he had tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash and turned down the chance to direct a video for Prince, he noted: “I’ve burned bridges and relationships to the point that I consider myself lucky to still be around. I never played by the rules, often to my own detriment. I’ve been rude, exercised bad judgment, squandered most of the gifts God gave me, and treated the love and friendship of others as I did Basquiat’s art and Prince’s music. When you are immune to the feelings of others, can you be a good father, a good husband, a good friend? Do I have regrets? You bet.”
He sounds like a downtown Patrick Bateman here unironically inb4 based. Jason Blum mu$t be happy to his $1 billion new Exorcist trilogy to have a new "in tribute" promotion.
Funny if they attribute a quote praising it to Friedkin "he saw it right before he died"
At least he was self-aware later on about what a twat he was and what it cost him in the long run. Too many who mellow out later are like "Ah well" about their earlier lifestyle and despite not being angry buttholes anymore, haven't really learned from it.
He was an butthole with the talent and savvy to back it tf up. To see what a Friedkin without talent looks like, see Peter Bogdanovich (he fricked Dorothy Stratton and her sister, and prime Candace Bergman, disgusting).
I dated an art major and she loved Basquiat and Keith Herring and those other 80s AIDS gays. Took her to an art museum that was hosting an original Rothco. She had no idea who that was that's when I knew I had to dump her.
The fact that you A) think Rothko is obscure, B) while mispelling his easy as frick name while C) not realizing there's virtually no difference between neoexpressionists (who were based) and abstract expressionists (who were cringe) makes me think she's better off now.
>how he had tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash
Based. >and turned down the chance to direct a video for Prince
Cringe. Friedkin + Prince would've been kino.
Friedkin and Harlan Ellison had a screaming match and came to blows in the middle of a restaurant and never spoke again because Ellison said that he, Friedkin, was NOT an awful writer, after Friedkin insisted he was.
This was when they were working on an adaptation of The Spirit and why it fell apart.
Anyway vaya con dios
French connection 2 is even better
the plot is so fricking simple yet its such a kino movie >Popeye doyle comes to Marseille to help catch the bad guy from before >turns out french people are corrupt and incompetent, who knew >popeye spends half an hour getting drunk and trying to frick random french teenagers >Popeye gets captured and forcibly addicted to heroin >popeye is dumped in front of the police station and is secretly put through ghetto detox, including a full blood transplant (???) done in a moldy cellar with what appears to be a jury-rigged vacuum cleaner. >this takes an additional half hour and Popeye eats grilled chicken and cries messily >now popeye is clean from the smack and proceeds to harness the power of irish stubbornness in a footrace through all of marseille >this takes another half hour >at the end, popeye runs faster than a speedboat and shoots the bad guy from 200 meters with his snub nose .38, killing him instantly with one shot
some more stuff happens and there are some excellent gunfights
truly underrated gem, one of the best action thrillers of the 70s
I was surprised by part 2 is pretty good. I kinda wish Roy Scheider was in it. Gene hackman spends most of the movie drunk or high on drugs which is great. I like how sweaty and disgusting movies used to look. Every movie now looks too clean and smooth. I also like how Popeye has a foot fetish.
I never saw the Exorcist but French Connection is one of those old movies I enjoyed very much. Gives you some unfiltered views of White America New York too.
People live longer now. I think Coppola is unfortunately next. He is 84 and Megalopolis seems like it was a giant undertaking. Scorsese is 80. I think he'll push in to his 90's, if I recall his mom lived really long and I genuinely hope he manages to stick around to give us couple more kinos and make MCU shitters seethe and cope.
Spielberg is healthy and 76, he is probably on some tribal high tech stem cell shit so he'll be around for one more decade at least. Lucas is not very healthy, too fat and he is 79. Though he does not make movies anymore so no stress.
De Palma is 82 and he's unfortunately the most "forgotten" one. There has been critical revaluation of his work since the 90's but I fear he will get the proper respect he deserves only when he dies.
Tarantino did a lot to increase De Palmas reputation over the years. There are a shit ton of interviews where he said that De Palma is the best director in cinema history and did everything Hitchwiener wished he could, he praised Blow Out as being the best film ever made since the 90s.
But his last few movies, especially his Denmark one, were really fricking bad, his last one he apparently had zero creative control over and his crew wasn't paid on time.
>Spielberg >Lucas
They don't deserve to be grouped with the other New Hollywood greats. They are the grandfathers of capeshit and if Star Wars had been a dud we'd be in a much better place right now
In another world Spielberg went on making tense thrillers like Duel or the pilot episode of Columbo instead of creating and perfecting blockbusters and Lucas making experimental sci-fi. But it was clear that New Hollywood was never going to last long. People burned out I guess and the Blockbusters were ready to destroy everything else.
>New Hollywood was never going to last long. People burned out I guess and the Blockbusters were ready to destroy everything else.
Partially correct but if Star Wars hadn't been an absolute phenomenon I think the 80s would have been a bit healthier. Chasing the money Lucas showed was possible was bad for American film.
People have been shitting on Lucas for about 4 decades now but there is cinema past and before Star Wars and it is hard for many people to comprehend how much that film changed filmmaking, especially american filmmaking. People have seen it copied so many times that they don't understand the significance of Star Wars and how revolutionary it was.
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Ok. But Lucas is still a deeply mediocre director.
The Prequel trilogy are the last pieces of legitimate high budget art in the last 20+ years.
Especially Episode 2 went completely against the style of the time and presented a rather slow paced film noir with acting that was explicitly stylized after said genre. Lucas isn't a moron who can't direct actors or a movie, given how great American Graffiti and THX is, he knew what he was doing and made a certain stylistic choice he went all the way with.
And with Episode 3 he dedicated 100% towards it to make it essentially a 50s sword and sandale movie about the fall of Rome.
This is why nobody gives a shit about the soulless Disney rehashes and the prequels are still talked today partly even more favorably than the OT since they were explicitly done as arthouse movies with million dollar budgets.
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The prequels are mediocre but creative
The sequels are shit and uncreative but have better cgi due to technological advancements. One man's vision vs a soulless corporation with no idea what they were doing and too many egos fighting.
Spielberg and Lucas killed New Hollywood but New Hollywood was going to collapse anyways because of the movies flopping and the directors having too much control
>THX and American Graffiti aren't great movies
They are but if Star Wars had only made as much as, say, The Sting, Lucas wouldn't have been locked into the path that he took and could have made further good films of a wider variety
New Hollywood was not Lucas and The Berg it included >Brian De Palma >Francis Ford Coppola >Martin Scorsese >Robert Altman >William Friedkin >Dennis Hopper >Hal Ashby >Michael Cimino >Mike Nichols >Stanley Kubrick >Bob Rafelson
Lucas and The Berg were considered A/V incels by these based dope smoking swordsmen
People live longer now. I think Coppola is unfortunately next. He is 84 and Megalopolis seems like it was a giant undertaking. Scorsese is 80. I think he'll push in to his 90's, if I recall his mom lived really long and I genuinely hope he manages to stick around to give us couple more kinos and make MCU shitters seethe and cope.
Spielberg is healthy and 76, he is probably on some tribal high tech stem cell shit so he'll be around for one more decade at least. Lucas is not very healthy, too fat and he is 79. Though he does not make movies anymore so no stress.
De Palma is 82 and he's unfortunately the most "forgotten" one. There has been critical revaluation of his work since the 90's but I fear he will get the proper respect he deserves only when he dies.
Scorsese has been as active and lucid as he is now for the past 30 years. I too think he'll last long.
Because he is a kinoman to the end. He's 84. People don't realize how young he was when he got his big break. I think he was 30 something when he made Godfather.
Paul Schrader is chruning out movies left and right, that's a man who's going to die in the saddle. Listening to him give talks is kinda painful because he's got asthma and I'm constantly afraid he's going to suffocate
I should say, it's kinda hard to distinguish him and Brian Cox. They both have a catty streak in their speech. But, yeah, stuff about the entitlement of saying any Black movie should get an Oscar nom.
Maybe I should send Spielberg a nice handwritten letter thanking him for Jurassic Park and all the joy it’s given me since I was a kid, he’s getting up there too and I really do love that film to death.
Frick man I miss Friedkin already.
I should do this with Paul Schrader to let him know there is at least someone who understands that Affliction is the best movie of all time
>only two of these actually still regularly direct and one of the two seems to have lost his teeth around the mid to late 2000s, the other has somewhat disappeared up his own ass to a degree
But hey, Coppola's finally gonna make Megalopolis eh...?
It's a pretty big censorship. Surprised it isn't being talked about more. Especially since The French Connection is considered one of the all time American greats
It's a pretty big censorship. Surprised it isn't being talked about more. Especially since The French Connection is considered one of the all time American greats
Maybe Marty killed himself when he learned he was being blamed for censoring his own masterpiece. Seems incredibly fishy.
Fricking weird watching his criterion closet picks from almost a decade ago
We're onto you, Michael, and we'll make sure you NEVER get funding for another 3x over budget movie by faking your death and directing under a different name.
Its not that citizen kane is the only classic or even the best his point is that it takes time for a classic to reveal itself and the movie refn is chirping about has been out for 5 minutes.
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Looking back at the series. It's crazy how dreadful The Exorcist 2 was. I mean, Boorman was an interesting director and then you see The Exorcist 2. And it's all-round failure. Especially the part where Reagan is sexualized, Burton seems dead inside and getting more and more drunk every other frame, the execution and the plot are all just sickening and mind-boggling. The Exorcist 3 was great however.
>Burton seems dead inside and getting more and more drunk every other frame
That was basically like every film he made since the 70s
>Burton seems dead inside and getting more and more drunk every other frame
Which was inspired casting. His movie Absolution nearly rivals Exorcist for dread and has a real sinister grip, and The Medusa Touch is like The Exorcist of 9/11 predictive programming kino. Highly recommended. Boreman did Burton wrong
Boorman is on the level of Friedkin to me personally. Not as influential maybe. But Zardoz, Excalibur, and Point Blank are all certified kino. He knew his craft but he wasn't suited to the genre. Kinda see how Dave Black folk failed at doing an epic full of action. He can perhaps only do his atmospheric spoopy arty shit (which I'm not a great fan of).
Having watched all of them recently, The Exorcist has two modes; stone cold classic, and fresh steaming turd. No in-between. And they even switch back and forth for your viewing pleasure >1: Stone cold >2: Fresh steaming >3: Stone cold >"4"/0: Fresh steaming
I would like to say Exorcist Believer is due to be stone cold but while not a classic, the alternate cut of 4/0 by Schrader was marginally better so I think that threw off the rhythm and we're back to fresh steaming.
I went with 25 random big director names who are 75+, although I forgot Robert Redford and he should've been on instead of someone like Verhoeven or Weir.
That was a coincidence tho, his Endgame cameo was filmed way before his final film.
Also they probably paid him a shit ton of money to appear in this garbage movie (while I can see him appear in Winter Soldier because of the script)
Dario may as well already be dead tbh, De Palma, Coppola and Cronenberg too. Marty, Spielberg, Miyazaki and Polanski are the only ones here who can be relied on to drop another kino in their lifetime.
Lynch is next
Lynch will outlive most of these guys but i doubt he makes another film. He seems to be finished now like John Carpenter is.
>Lynch will outlive most of these guys but i doubt he makes another film. He seems to be finished now like John Carpenter is.
Lynch was literally spotted filming a new series in Los Angeles right before the actors strike. He has a deal in place. It's unknown if it's Twin Peaks related.
The title is confirmed as Wisteria.
I watched The French Connection just last week and thought it was just ok. The chase scenes and buildup to the end were good but other than that a lot of it just felt like random shit happening with no real narrative structure.
no, Refn just said that OGF was "a masterpiece" because it was the exact movie he set out to make. Friedkin took masterpiece to mean "the greatest film ever"
RIP to a legend.
In addition to his movies, he was an incredible speaker (picrel is pretty much just him talking to camera for 90 minutes) where you could look up any old Q&A or interview and just be totally captivated. Shit-talking king, disappointed we won't get to hear him cut loose on that new Exorcist movie.
'Leap of Faith' was such a great slept on documentary. just Friedkin banter, telling great stories and behind the scenes feats.
HIGHLY recommend if you want to celebrate his life today with something fresh
https://letterboxd.com/film/leap-of-faith-william-friedkin-on-the-exorcist/
Saw it recently. Didn't not enjoy a single moment! Love how Friedkin is kind of like Nabokov. Opinionated, boisterous even but funny as hell unlike Nab. Nowadays no one can be rude, critical and unique. Directors then had personalities too.
I'm very happy how Sorcerer was recognised as the terrific cinema it is recently. Could've become a hit if it were titled something more fitting and cast Steve McQueen. A while ago, I saw Wages Of Fear and it wasn't as good, frankly.
Yes, the Schieder character, but McQueen had just gotten married and wanted to be with his wife and Friedkin wouldn't compromise on the movie (filming in the US, writing in a part for her, making her a producer) so he dropped out
He was. But then he quit because he demanded Friedkin to give his wife a role (a prominent one at that) and he didn't want to shoot at such a dangerous location. The backstory is quite interesting and a bit sad.
It was never going to be a hit as long as it was releasing alongside Star Wars tbh. morons would rather watch that 10 times in the plex than see true Friedkino once.
He was. But then he quit because he demanded Friedkin to give his wife a role (a prominent one at that) and he didn't want to shoot at such a dangerous location. The backstory is quite interesting and a bit sad.
Sorcerer is kino but I can't imagine a world where it never flopped. The first half hour isn't in English (people got confused what movie it was) and the title is moronic.
Can't blame people for wanting to see Star Wars. First one is goddamned awesome and would've been mind blowing at the time. It was released a month after Star Wars, I'd say it's title is the biggest issue.
>based depictor of catholic struggle through the eyes of a priest.
The Exoricist fricked me up in 2 very different ways, and him being gone makes me feel like a little piece of me in gone. He will be sorely missed.
'Leap of Faith' was such a great slept on documentary. just Friedkin banter, telling great stories and behind the scenes feats.
HIGHLY recommend if you want to celebrate his life today with something fresh
https://letterboxd.com/film/leap-of-faith-william-friedkin-on-the-exorcist/
finally got stickied.
big F for this lad. Watching the theatrical cut of exorcist tonight in his honour. Will spend the rest of the week watching his other kinos capped off with the clip of him making Refn cry
Ive only seen the exorcist, what should i watch next? live and die in la, cruising, french connection, killer joe, sorcerer? i know i should watch them all but I have other things i need to get done in my free time
Watch Sorcerer if you want a badass jungle adventure that is his most original kino in terms of tone and setting.
Watch French Connection is you want a gloomier, grimier neo-noir than Heat, it is the Heat of the 1970s
Watch Live and Die in L.A. if you prefer 1980s Michael Mann like Manhunter and Miami Vice, because Friedkin arguably outdid him
Watch Killer Joe if you're with chick, or your roommates are drunk normies
Bug is his most underrated mindfrick but it's a low budget motel setting.
>Bug is his most underrated mindfrick but it's a low budget motel setting.
It also features excellent acting by Ashley Judd-- good directors get the best out of otherwise so-so actos
If you like Judd in Bug you gotta watch her in the bank robbery movie Normal Life by the Red Rock West director. And some of the hottest near real sex scenes with her.
Checked. What drew Friedkin to Jade in the first place? Was he truly trying to top Basic Instinct because it's sadly tame, or was it just excited to ride a script by bloaty con artist Ezterhaus? Jade always plays like a rare pulled punch
I literally JUST started doing a Friedkin/Schrader double feature every night for the past three days. I watched Sorcerer just last night. This is all my fault, bros. I'm sorry. Keep an eye on Paul.
Watched Sorcerer for the first time at a small local theater this weekend, hell of a movie. Chatting with someone in the audience and they recommended this docu to me, might have to check it out today. (though lol at the idea that Hurricane Billy was ever "filtered")
idk if someone already posted this ITT, but do yourself a favour and watch https://youtu.be/b-UogrWajyg >this was a controversial moment >it's a fist-fricking scene
>when you were researching and you were going into these clubs, did you have to obey the dress code? cause i read an interview once in which you said you went on jockstrap once >yes, and i was the ugliest guy in the room! nobody ever hit on me
For me, it’s the Pakino he did called “Cruising”. i was reading about it and apparently it set the gay rights movement back for fricking years because based Friedkin didn’t give two fricks about muh optics and made a gay serial killer movie.
It's also fricking kino how he bamboozled everyone with the identity of the killer, and gave no fricks about explaining anything, instead he used all his media appearances to talk shit about Pacino.
It's also fricking kino how he bamboozled everyone with the identity of the killer, and gave no fricks about explaining anything, instead he used all his media appearances to talk shit about Pacino.
Hilariously gays nowadays treat the movie like a classic when back in the day they seethed over it.
He had great taste when it came to contemporary artists doing score / soundtrack work. This, Tangerine Dream for Sorcerer, Wang Chung for To Live And Die.
RIP to a legend https://youtu.be/1jPWGEoyJHY >i have only two questions >i have a third: is there a medic for this man?
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Milius is still kicking too, but he had a stroke and hasn't made anything in a long time
Friedkin's interviews are fricking hilarious.
he truly feels like the last Hollywood to not mince words, speak his mind, and truly not give a shit who it upsets while not being rabidly political. Schrader
Paul Schrader is chruning out movies left and right, that's a man who's going to die in the saddle. Listening to him give talks is kinda painful because he's got asthma and I'm constantly afraid he's going to suffocate
I like his boomer faceberg posts, he even interacts with his fans.
He's going to keep posting until he dies kek
is like this, but he does it to "own the libs", while Friedkin stayed above the politics
rip
watched to live and die in la a few days ago and really liked it. also saw the exorcist, sorcerer and the french connection which are all fantastic too. surprised he's not considered one of the greats like kubrick and others.
>surprised he's not considered one of the greats like kubrick and others.
He is, fricking zoomer
Friedkin has always been acclaimed as ONE of the greatest filmmakers ever. Kubrick is one of very few people often acclaimed as THE greatest filmmakers ever, it’s not a knock on Friedkin to not reach that level of respect.
i think his meaning was why he isn't spoken with the bated-breath-reverence of Kubrick or Hitchwiener. everyone considers him a "great", but the feeling i get is he's more divisive than others
rip
watched to live and die in la a few days ago and really liked it. also saw the exorcist, sorcerer and the french connection which are all fantastic too. surprised he's not considered one of the greats like kubrick and others.
i've only seen 2 of his movies, but i think it's because his films are more concerned with "base" and grimy subjects manner like lust, fear, violence, etc, unlike something high-concept and lofty like Kubrick's 2001
Most of his movies past "To Live and Die in LA" were utter trash, literally only The Hunted (a remake of First Blood), Rules of Engagement and Killer Joe were good.
And all of his prior French Connection movies are also trash.
I get it he probably got the John Milius treatment of never getting proper funding due to being too controversial to work with and had to rely on awful contract work, but still.
Friedkin has always been acclaimed as ONE of the greatest filmmakers ever. Kubrick is one of very few people often acclaimed as THE greatest filmmakers ever, it’s not a knock on Friedkin to not reach that level of respect.
Friedkin is making the point that you can’t predict what will and won’t stand the test of time, that Refn has a currently popular movie but it could very well be completely forgotten a few decades, so it’s moronic to proclaim it a masterpiece. Citizen Kane is the one of the movies that has stood the test of time the longest, and illustrates his point the best.
Drive is beloved here and there but you can see that people don't already think of first when when there's a discussion on good movies that came out last decade. I don't think it'll endure either but let's see.
The generation of directors that built Modern Hollywood on their backs are dying off and the talent pool today is ankle deep. I don't even want to know what the average serving of entertainment will be even 5 years from now, this is literally depressing
I dont know what it is but even now Friedkin's movies feel so visceral and real in a way movies don't anymore.
Is it because he used to make documentaries or because he treated his actors like shit to get good performances out of them?
>because he treated his actors like shit to get good performances out of them?
Didn't work out for David O. Russell who hasn't made a single great film. It's just different I guess. Our cultural climate is just full of noise, nervousness and apathy.
How come there aren't directors who aren't 80 anymore?
Gonna be hilarious to see what Hollyisraelite does in 5 years when the rest die.
I welcome their destruction... Pumping out shit just for short term profits.
There will be a dark age where movies don't really get made for 10 years and we can all catch up since people only watch a movie every 3 years now. And then somebody with some kind of vision will start making things again and usher in a new era.
>There will be a dark age where movies don't really get made for 10 years and we can all catch up
Normies won't watch anything unless hollywood tells them to
To be fair, the situation in American cinema was pretty similar before New Hollywood. The old masters like Ford were dying off and though there were a few talents like Welles it was mostly churned out studio crap. Then New Hollywood came around and everything changed. Hopefully something similar happens soon.
>New Hollywood came around and everything changed. Hopefully something similar happens soon.
Lmao. Buddy, don't you know Hollywood is exploding itself with these strikes so it can relocate to Saudi Arabia and "Best Ally"? You think Tarantino moving over there and all these "imports" like Euphoria and Gal Gadot are coincidence?
>New Hollywood came around and everything changed. Hopefully something similar happens soon.
Lmao. Buddy, don't you know Hollywood is exploding itself with these strikes so it can relocate to Saudi Arabia and "Best Ally"? You think Tarantino moving over there and all these "imports" like Euphoria and Gal Gadot are coincidence?
Hey fricktard, Jared Kushner is the one arranging half these Saudi deals thanks to le "Abraham Accords" signed by your daddy dom Trump, and the other half is being handled by Rahm Emanuel's brother, who runs Hollywood single handedly
One also wonders if cinema isn't a dying form anyway. Afterall nobody lives in a monoculture anymore. The internet was a mortal blow to creativity in all its forms I fear. Sort of how cinema badly injured literature heh.
There are the Gen X directors like Quentin Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson, David Fincher, Wes Anderson, Sofia Coppola, James Gray, Coen Brothers etc. etc.
We are still waiting for the millenial directors tor really pop up. There are some like Barry Jenkins, Ryan Googler, The Daniels, Chloe Zhao, Damian Chazelle etc. But if you compare to Gen X directors and their ages when they popped up in the 90's, most of them were in their mid 20's or early 30's. Now it seems like most millenial directors get their start later. I don't know if it is industry politics and boomers/Gen X latching more to the power or what. But I have definitely noticed it is a thing.
Part of it's because film making, namely the production aspect of it, is genuinely tough and millennials are pussies who can't work.
But some of it is Hollywood becoming more corporatized and bureaucratic, not to mention the union politics of different jobs and dealing with basket cases like actors would make anyone pull their out. You also have the internet mentioned here making people way more independent
One also wonders if cinema isn't a dying form anyway. Afterall nobody lives in a monoculture anymore. The internet was a mortal blow to creativity in all its forms I fear. Sort of how cinema badly injured literature heh.
. You see how there's barely any "mono culture" dictated by Hollywood anymore outside of maybe one film every couple of years and you have these millennials wondering, with the work it takes just to make a film, why bother getting into the business if your film's cultural shelf life will probably last a few months at most?
Personally I think these kids could make a New Hollywood era, they have to stop relying on the traditional method of getting into theaters or some big corporate entity like Netflix. Aside from the work involved, being a film maker involves a lot of self-confidence and the need to sell your idea to producers and investors. And that self-confidence is something millennials really lack, particularly the over-medicated ones.
>You see how there's barely any "mono culture" dictated by Hollywood anymore outside of maybe one film every couple of years
Is this supposed to be a problem? Why do people think not watching the same shit as everybody else like an NPC is a bad thing?
Part of it's because film making, namely the production aspect of it, is genuinely tough and millennials are pussies who can't work.
But some of it is Hollywood becoming more corporatized and bureaucratic, not to mention the union politics of different jobs and dealing with basket cases like actors would make anyone pull their out. You also have the internet mentioned here making people way more independent [...] . You see how there's barely any "mono culture" dictated by Hollywood anymore outside of maybe one film every couple of years and you have these millennials wondering, with the work it takes just to make a film, why bother getting into the business if your film's cultural shelf life will probably last a few months at most?
Personally I think these kids could make a New Hollywood era, they have to stop relying on the traditional method of getting into theaters or some big corporate entity like Netflix. Aside from the work involved, being a film maker involves a lot of self-confidence and the need to sell your idea to producers and investors. And that self-confidence is something millennials really lack, particularly the over-medicated ones.
>seems like most millenial directors get their start later. I don't know if it is industry politics
It's nepotism. And they have to filter and filter until the only remaining millennial directors who are "crowned" with careers are confirmed to be LGBT and brew friendly. Plus there's no Weinstein around now who was seeking auteur filmmakers to helm films and not hipstery geeks to make genre flicks like Blumhouse and worse, A24. There are people at A24 who swear Talk Like Me is worthy of Friedkin lmao
Why did most of the New Holllywood directors get JUSTed so hard? Most just kind of fell off after they stopped making the studios money and they wanted nothing to do with them.
Friedkin made one of the best movies ever and it bombed, bombed hard. So yeah thats why they got shafted by hollywood their movies bombed. But seriously sorcerer is fricking kino and should've won all the Oscars.
Sorcerer got clearly sabotaged. Suddenly all critics acted like it's the worst shit ever. And when you read the old reviews, they really struggle to give a reason why that is. But bad word of mouth destroyed that movie and Friedkin's career.
It was "sabotaged" because it came out shortly after Star Wars which got all the attention and box office. Lots of people argue the title "Sorcerer" also didn't communicate to audiences what the movie is about. It also did not destroy Friedkin's career, he made great movies like To Live and Die in L.A. after Sorcerer.
If this movie came out today it'd probably sweep because of how pathetic the competition would be, but then people would b***h that it's racist despite having a mostly non-white cast and sexist for having zero prominent female roles.
The late 60's and 70's were very beneficial for directors. They had more power than directors had in the classical studio system. In the 70's the studio system itself was in turmoil, lots of changes, lots of changing the old guard. Independent productions became a bigger thing etc. Young directors got more chances and they took them. Then when the 80's came, the studio system was again becoming more powerful and more importantly very corporate. The modern studio system we have now started all the way back in the 80's. Movies became more like products, product placement became a bigger thing, international markets, VHS, action schlock became more popular etc. Some high profile movies like Sorcerer, Heaven's Gate, The Thing etc. flopped and critics attacked against the directors and the studio system as well.
Just checked wikipedia and he has a film set to release this year and its boat related so you know its going to be great https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_Court-Martial_(2023_film)
the whole talk is great
friedkin obviously so much more of a life person so much more sociable and experienced
while refn and his slightly on the spectrum persona tries to remain calm in the presence of a legend
love it
Friedkin looking over and doing that backhanded "Yikes. That just happened." reddit shit was embarrassing. Refn is a reddit director himself, but Jesus Christ.
Both are great and well worth watching. The French film is not "the original", both are adaptations of a book and are not carbon copies of one another. Personally I prefer Sorcerer but both are great.
>Is there any film like this?
Yeah, Sorcerer (1977).
About 10 years ago, they showed the director's cut of the Exorcist at a local theater. He gave a cool intro and told an interesting story about hiring Linda Blair. Of all the young girls they interviewed, she was one of the few who had no qualms about saying all of the nasty stuff from the script and leaned into it.
IIRC he told her about the crucifix scene and was surprised she knew what jerking off was.
>Blatty remembered William Friedkin, whom he had met some years earlier when the director had called a TV script of his “the worst piece of shit I ever read in my life.” Blatty laughed, thinking, This guys got balls.
>Since then Friedkin had developed a reputation. As one producer put it, “Billy was a tough critter. He didn’t give a frick about anybody else that walked the face of the earth. He was a guy, you’d known him for thirty years, saved his ass by putting together the deal, he’d turn to you and say, ‘Get off the set.’”
>Blatty didn’t know anything about this, just recalled that Friedkin was somehow unfettered by the usual Hollywood inhibitions, and willingly jeopardizing his chances to direct by speaking his mind. I can trust him, he thought. He also recalled that Friedkin was known for his documentaries. “Someone who could give the film a sense of reality was what the fantasy absolutely needed,” he says.
>this made millennials pee pee and poo poo and question their sanity and start their first online autistic fart sniffing contest about "BRO, HOW DO YOU ESCAPE LE CURSE?" right in the theater on the first generation iPhone their Boomer parents bought them
?t=421 >...in the politically correct society in which we live, you can't make a film that justifies the Klan... in The Restoration period, there was a lot of black crime, and the rise of the Ku Klux Klan- these guys wearing white caps and sheets- came about because there was a lot of rapes and pillaging being done by the newly freed slaves"
always kek'd that he decided to go on that tangent talking about Birth of a Nation, guy didn't give a frick. RIP
>Director of the Exorcist
i like the fact that you wrote that to save me a couple of seconds i was going to spend googling about that LITERALY WHO
cheers
But wait, there's more, he also directed... hmff... pfft... the french connection.. and.. pffffft... sorcerer... HAHAHAHAHAHA TRULY ONE OF THE GREATS KEK
>Director of the Exorcist
i like the fact that you wrote that to save me a couple of seconds i was going to spend googling about that LITERALY WHO
cheers
I agree with Friedkin in calling out Refn claiming "Only God Forgives" is a masterpiece, but what I don't agree with is this idea that only masterpieces are remembered. Some of the worst, most god awful pieces of shit get remembered, like Troll 2.
Overall, the importance of a piece of media is partly dependent upon the longevity for which it is remembered, but also upon the immediate influence it has in the now, but even still, also upon those who view it.
There are a lot of niche, some would say "garbage" films from the 70's that inspired Tarantino. Without those films we likely wouldn't have Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill or Reservoir Dogs or Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
Some mediocre or merely decent things get remembered for other reasons as well, and that often grants them a false reputation from low info people who only know of them from being mentioned a lot so they just assume they're among the greats.
Personally, I'm not on the side of purging "lesser" media. It feels very elitist, especially since it's the silver-spoon fed nepotism babies in the media now that make up the "elites" and decide which media gets remembered and which media doesn't.
The world needs more shit like Starcrash, or Barbarella, or Death Race 2000.
I feel like you actually learn more about how to make a good movie if you watch really bad films and just do some good ideas of them differently or do the complete opposite.
"Manos the Hands of Fate" for example has a actual great premise for a horror film which you could built upon, it's just painfully bad to sit through and the only film I agree with Normalgays of deserving the title "the worst film ever made", since it isn't entertainingly bad, it is just painfully boring torture.
I was thinking more of films that are remembered for a trivia type reason, but are thus mentioned so much that people who haven't seen them start listing them alongside "the greats", rather than schlock films.
Troll 2 isn't known simply for being an awful piece of shit, its remembered because a certain dream logic and quixotic charm formed by its own volition separate of the Italian filmmaker and cast. Troll 2 unlike The Room deserves to be remembered as the sincere godfather of the spoilt "disasterpieces" that defined 2010s post-modernism. Something tells me Friedkin would agree.
I've said this before but I unironically believe Troll 2 is competently made in certain parts. They were genuinely trying, just turned out the movie was just crap.
The "funny" exploitation films tend to be at their best when they were genuinely made and they just unintentionally failed for whatever reasons. The ironic let's make it bad on purpose Sharknado trash type of thing is soulless to the core
Some mediocre or merely decent things get remembered for other reasons as well, and that often grants them a false reputation from low info people who only know of them from being mentioned a lot so they just assume they're among the greats.
conversely, masterpieces get forgotten or never get the respect they merit, too. This is true in every artistic medium
the object lesson I usually point to about how merit isn't much of a consideration is this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_(Bernini) >After being "lost" for over one hundred years, Corpus surfaced in Venice in 1908. Later it fell into private hands in the United States, but by that time it was misidentified as a work from the school of Giambologna. At an auction in 1975, it failed to sell for the very low price of $200. It was not until 2002 that it was recognized as a Bernini. And it took until 2005 for the provenance to be definitely and directly linked to Bernini...Corpus is said to be worth $50 million in the current art market.
goes to show just how much value is attached not to the thing in itself, but to fame, to social factors, to the stories other people tell about it, to intangibles.
I'm glad I was able to get some more discussion of Friedkin and his movies going here over the last year or so. This old post by me is worth dredging up:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/183571206/#q183573273
I think it's called the veil of time or something like, when we only remember the good things and forget the bad, but even then all the good doesn't end up getting remembered and just fades away. That or survivorship bias.
not him >"a work or performance of a master, a piece of work of surpassing excellence," c. 1600, from master (n.) + piece (n.1). A loan-translation of Dutch meesterstuk "work by which a craftsman attains the rank of master" (or its German cognate Meisterstück).
it's worth picking up his autobiography for the section on Sorcerer. just squandering absurd amounts of money, crew members contracting tropical diseases, Friedkin in pure self-destructive delusions of grandeur mode
Sounds like Fitzcarraldo, which was a fricking struggle even putting wrangling Klaus Kinski aside (Herzog's hauling of the boat was actually MORE difficult than the event he was adapting where it was disassembled during transport).
among the later career underdog picks we've got some The Hunted posters, a few Bug fans, and a surprising Rules of Engagement mention. question is - where are the BLUE CHIPS homies?
oh shit, missed that one. based and bluepilled (in a good way)
Sounds like Fitzcarraldo, which was a fricking struggle even putting wrangling Klaus Kinski aside (Herzog's hauling of the boat was actually MORE difficult than the event he was adapting where it was disassembled during transport).
definitely a similar sort of scenario, although I'd say Herzog outdoes Friedkin for sheer insanity
>Paul Bateson, who appeared as a doctor’s assistant in The Exorcist, was later implicated in the New York ‘Bag Murders’, which was dramatized in William Friedkin's Cruising.
spoopy af
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bateson
>I was raised in the israeli faith. I was Bar Mitzvahed. To be honest, I never felt close to the ritual in the israeli faith. But I did to the ritual in the Christian, in the Catholic faith. Jesus was a israelite, he was bom, he lived and died as a israelite. He was not a Catholic. I did and still do feel close to it and I believe in the teachings of Jesus, I believed in teachings of Jesus when I made the film and I do to this day. It’s the miracle of faith. Like anyone who believes, I can’t give you solid evidence. I just have my belief. >And today, do you consider yourself either israeli or Christian? >I don’t have any arguments against any faith, really. I personally believe in the teachings of Jesus more than anything, and I have read a lot of things that go against the teachings of Jesus.
F. one of the best ever. the exorcist tc is one of the very best films ever. i lost some respect for friedkin that he tinkered with it so much. theatrical is the king
>He's no Lucas but post-release tinkering
He added a lot of dumb shit to the Exorcist director's cut and changed the color grading in the French Connection to make it look worse.
>Cinemaphile is so fricking pleb that OP felt the need to put "Director of the Exorcist" because he thought the average poster might not know who William Friedkin was
I was watching an interview with Freidken last week and ironically I think he said he was okay with being remembered as The Exorcist director. Most people aren't remembered for anything, especially not making good movies.
It always hurts when people pass away that are still totally there. I'm mentally prepared when it's somebody who faded away a long time ago but Friendkin was still totally lucid and doing interviews just months ago. It's the better alternative but it always sucks when it still feels like they have stuff to give.
Expecting artists to make masterpieces every time without fail is unrealistic.
>Filtered by Killer Joe
You're a homosexual
I liked Bug
it's just so amazing to me, that one moment you have it and putting out kino after kino that make millions and oscars and stuff, and the next day poof you're making garbage no one wants to see like the guardian
Hollywood has only cared about one thing: MONEY. French Connection won Oscars. Exorcist was the highest grossing movie EVER when it came out. Then he made Sorcerer and Cruising and they dumped him in the garbage.
Maybe I should send Spielberg a nice handwritten letter thanking him for Jurassic Park and all the joy it’s given me since I was a kid, he’s getting up there too and I really do love that film to death.
Frick man I miss Friedkin already.
Spielberg sternly asks that $100 donations be made to remaining survivors of The Great Sad Genocide in lieu of fanmail. For only $25 a day you can adopt a survivor and Spielberg will call they/them on religious holidays
I'm going to send James Cmaeron a letter telling him I think Piranha 2 is an underrated classic and also can I borrow $5000. And I fully expect to receive a handwritten reply saying "Go frick yourself signed Jim Cameron".
He was my favorite director, really wish I got to meet him and just shoot the shit about movies for a few hours.
RIP
He only accepted letters in Yiddish. I too looked into it.
Do anons know where he'll be buried? Will he have a small pazazu gargoyle on his stone? I'm aware he'll be cremated first, a tradition I learned of when researching the fan letters protocol.
lmao holy shit, I never thought I would hear Friedkin use the phrase "pimple on the butthole of humanity" and I had no idea how fricking autistic Refn is.
These are hands down my favorite movie soundtracks ever, amazing how much texture and suspense they add to each film.
Friedkin clearly had a good ear for shit; other things that come to mind are all the weird layers of dog barking, lions growling etc. to the louder scenes in Exorcist and that scene in Sorcerer where the guy falls into the water and all the audio immediately cuts out from his point of view.
It still amazes me that a high quality upload of To Live and Die in LA is still on YouTube. You have no excuse if you haven't watched this top tier kino yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bseFRIXfRWM
I saw the Exorcist in 2000 at the theater in Victorville California. All the nogs and beaners ruined with their laughing and antics. Watching it again tonight boozed up. RIP Billy
>The French Connection >The Exorcist >Sorcerer >To Live and Die in L.A. >Cult favorites like Bug and Cruising
He has 4 great canonized movies and several other minor hits. Most directors hardly even have 1 truly great film. F to a legend.
Filmmaking is incredibly difficult. Anons take it for granted because they haven't created anything. It's hard to make a good movie let alone a great one.
There was an anon earlier this year that made an interesting thread about how The French Connection won a shitload of Oscars even though it was basically just the 1970s equivalent of capeshit. It’s an action movie about cops and robbers. And it’s absolute fricking kino. 50 years ago even the genre films made for entertainment were excellent. The craftsmanship and intelligence they had is incomparable to today’s mainstream movies.
French Connection was pretty damn groundbreaking and influential, maybe not to the same extent as The Exorcist but my dad saw it in cinemas and said the car chase scene was mindblowing.
>it was basically just the 1970s equivalent of capeshit
except they didn't make the whole thing in a fricking computer
the action in that movie has weight because it's real and they did it with no permits
star wars is 70s capeshit
>it was basically just the 1970s equivalent of capeshit
Criminal investigations of heroin smuggling rings are a real thing, homosexuals flying around in their long underwear shooting beams out of their eyes are not
Right anon thats the point but as the population blooms to massive scales eventually we'll reach 1 gigantic streamer/influencer eceleb and 1 Hollywood celebs death a day, maybe 1 elite athletes death a day and it'll eventually cover the full 365 days a year of important well beloved figures dying daily in the media being news story.
A full official dedicated obituary channel for important entertainers. Wonder what the population numbers wed need to reach for that.
Most boomers are gonna die this decade. The post-war generations that shaped the current world will be dead soon. And we are not prepared for inheriting their world.
Good. Boomers had everything handed to them and silver spoons and then ruined it for the rest of the world so they could give everything to their moronic mouth breathing progeny they were too rich and famous to actually raise into people.
Now their greedy trust fund babies penny pinch every dollar giving nothing back to society expecting us to be slaves for them while thinking they're some superior race made of master genetics because their daddy got lucky and ended up rich.
About time they all get purged and eaten by the masses in Minecraft.
>Sorcerer >Nitroglycerin kino
I knew a guy who had his left hand blown off by a bottle of nitroglycerine. He picked it up, and, boom. That's what he told me at least. He also said that he didn't have it in an ice bath, which you're supposed to do apparently.
‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ is mostly watched by film students who have been told to watch it,
Or people who look up lists of “The Greatest Films” and who just go down the list.
While this technique for viewing choice isn’t necessarily bad, it would tend to steer film viewers to certain specific films, making those films more likely to get watched.
A person who searches out films for some other reason, like the Director, or writer, or certain actors, or weirder things like production designer or costumer is likely to find films that are just as good, but which don’t get watched as much because the films aren’t on the meme lists.
As far as I’m aware, ‘Running Scared’ rarely if ever winds up on these “best of” lists, but is excellent in numerous ways.
The same goes for a number of other films.
‘The Dark Corner’ starring Lucille Ball was almost forgotten, but is now considered a classic.
>‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ is mostly watched by film students who have been told to watch it
I saw it on a whim in 70mm because I wanted to see it. What are you talking about?
>>‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ is mostly watched by film students who have been told to watch it, >Or people who look up lists of “The Greatest Films” and who just go down the list.
That doesn't make it not an incredible film.
It's the other way around, you dingus. 2001 is not considered a great film because it's taught in film schools. It's taught in film schools because it's considered a great film.
Well he was part yid, so maybe he thought he was being subversive. >also how gay is cruising I haven't seen it before
Very, but it's so over the top with its leather bar aesthetic it's almost parodic (even though many extras were pre-AIDS era gays).
Same. I literally just bought the bluray of Exorcist within the last couple of days, and I'm in the middle of listening to the Christopher Lee version of the audiobook.
The real reason for Sorcerer's failure is the pessimistic ending, after jaws and star wars people just decided they didn't want unhappy 70s endings anymore. Good movies without happy endings would keep bombing for a while, see the thing, blow out, robocop etc
>tfw Sorcerer came out the same week as Star Wars in 1977 >tfw there’s an alternate universe where Sorcerer was the huge box office hit everyone remembered instead
Jaws is what invented the blockbuster already before Star Wars. Look up how it was marketed and released. Star Wars utilized the same strategy (and actually before first weekend they thought it would flop).
This. Jaws is a genuinely great movie. It spends a good portion of the running time just developing its principle characters and allowing us to get to know them.
Star Wars on the other hand is confectionery cinema, it is the movie that taught execs that all you had to do was plug in likeable elements and hang them around an easily digestible, practically nonexistent story. It's arguably THE movie that made it okay to just lean on archetypes rather than using them as a starting point like you're supposed to, and it's basically the reason why the world was consumed by pop culture and still is to this day.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That post is stupid. Star Wars is a great space adventure film. You can hate what it became or what it generated but acting like the first one isn't a great movie experience is beyond moronic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Ask a question >Receive an answer >"But I don't like that answer"
I also like how you added a qualifier to great movie and described it as a great movie "experience" because even you know deep down that it's just a theme park ride meant to sell plastic to children
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's not just that I don't like the answer, it's that the answer is stupid. Suggesting "Star Wars is a not a movie" because you don't like how successful it became doesn't nullify it as a movie. >described it as a great movie "experience" because even you know deep down that it's just a theme park ride meant to sell plastic to children
It's just a great movie, plain and simple. I added experience because it was so unlike anything else at the time. And that last line is bullshit, he just wanted to make a space opera at the time. The marketing shit is incidental simply because kids wanted toys from Star Wars and Fox inexplicably gave Lucas merchandising and licensing rights because they expected the movie to flop.
Your issue with Star Wars isn't as a movie at all, it's simply that it was so successful and that corporate types capitalised on that success.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's that you don't like the answer. You're not a fan of my opinion. Got it. Not sure why this conversation needs to continue. >Suggesting "Star Wars is a not a movie" because you don't like how successful it became doesn't nullify it as a movie
Which wasn't my argument at all. I'm starting to suspect that maybe you might be stupid. >Your issue with Star Wars isn't as a movie at all
Yes it is. It would still not be very good even if it hadn't been successful. >it's simply that it was so successful and that corporate types capitalised on that success.
That made it worse, sure. Not all bad films have giant sweeping and cumulative negative effects on the entire industry, and not all of them get defended by legions of idiots who confuse being dazzled by shiny things with being "captivated by the magic of cinema".
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Not sure why this conversation needs to continue.
It doesn't. You're an ignorant homosexual and replying to you is a waste of time.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't a bad movie by itself at all really. It's just that it turned Hollywood back towards nostalgia and simplistic good vs bad narratives, and it invented what's called "high concept", where movies are made with the intention of planned sequels, other media tie-ins like toys/video games/tv series etc, basically profits from all demographics above everything else and everything that's wrong with modern Hollywood. But the new wave/New Hollywood was never really going to last anyways, the fact it went for a whole decade is impressive in and of itself
9 months ago
Anonymous
But Hollywood made good vs bad movies, then stopped because people got tired of them and wanted more dark and pessimistic movies in the 70s, then went back to good vs evil again. But yeah New Hollywood was impressive and even with the shit going on in Hollywood now I doubt it will ever happen again.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It had a whole lot to do with Vietnam, Watergate, Manson, the various political assassinations and all the other bad shit that went on in the 60s/70s. Movies were just addressing all that directly (the deer hunter, all the president's men, parallax view, apocalypse now) or metaphorically (chinatown, the conversation, long goodbye, easy rider, bonnie and clyde etc). By the 80s and Reagan people just decided they had enough of the bad shit and would rather have escapism than dealing with it anymore
9 months ago
Anonymous
>it's just a theme park ride
If Star Wars is a theme-park ride then so are the Exorcist and Psycho.
This. Jaws is a genuinely great movie. It spends a good portion of the running time just developing its principle characters and allowing us to get to know them.
Star Wars on the other hand is confectionery cinema, it is the movie that taught execs that all you had to do was plug in likeable elements and hang them around an easily digestible, practically nonexistent story. It's arguably THE movie that made it okay to just lean on archetypes rather than using them as a starting point like you're supposed to, and it's basically the reason why the world was consumed by pop culture and still is to this day.
Somebody else would've done it instead if not them. Godfather, Exorcist and especially Rocky were already proto blockbusters, even if on a higher level of quality
I think the one thing Star Wars had over Sorcerer was that it was kid friendly. Dunno who's parents would sit their kid down to watch a movie like Sorcerer.
And just imagine what cinema would be like today in that universe. All of this amusement park cinema would be basically nonexistent. Movies like this one and Jaws would have set the standard rather than Star Wars and it would still be a given that even a blockbuster movie still also has to count as a real movie.
People like to blame Jaws and Star Wars for creating the blockbuster era but forget that The Godfather and The Exorcist were massive hits that got Wall Streets attention which is why they started taking over the studios. All Jaws and Star Wars did was accelerate it by making movies aimed at teens and were simple which is why the studios favored them because they didn't want to deal with people like Friedkin, Coppola etc... whose movies were made for adults that also didn't lend themselves to merchandising!!!FACT!!!
The Godfather and The Exorcist are both masterpieces, anon. I think we'd be better off if the studios were still under the impression that a movie has to be good in order to make money, regardless of how you market it.
Star Wars is also a masterpiece that broke new ground in cinema in its storytelling and its technical innovations.
But it also led to the ruin of Hollywood by what it started. I have very conflicted feelings about the movie because of that. But the revisionism of treating Lucas as a lucky bumbling moron is one of the most moronic takes most people spout these days.
Star Wars is an extremely impressive marketing device.
It only broke new ground with its storytelling because it set a new precedent for laziness, simplicity and shamelessly prioritizing mass appeal above anything else. "Just plug in the things people want to see and don't challenge them in any way and they'll all flock to it, so who cares about integrity or the preservation of art?"
As for its technical innovations, yeah sure, but those are feats of engineering, not artistry. A rube goldberg device is extremely impressive but it's not a movie.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It only broke new ground
IT BROKE NEW GROOOUND >because it set a new precedent for laziness
because it's simplistic? how does that make any sense? >As for its technical innovations, yeah sure, but those are feats of engineering, not artistry.
absolute cringe take
9 months ago
Anonymous
>because it's simplistic? how does that make any sense?
Because simple things require less effort than complex things, you see. A child's drawing of some clouds is not as hard to make as a Rembrandt painting, which is why we stop and take notice of a Rembrandt. >absolute cringe take
counter argument not found
9 months ago
Anonymous
>*spouts pseudointellectual pablum yet the only artist he can name is Rembrandt for a poorly thought out analogy*
Holy hell are you an embarrassing midwit
9 months ago
Anonymous
>pseudo-intellectual
yes, the rallying cry of "your opinion makes me mad because muh childhood but I don't have any actual criticisms so I must fling poo"
I used a simplistic analogy because it was intended for a simplistic person.
Lucas isn't a bumbling moron, but Star Wars was a group effort, yet he got all the praise, even though some of the sidelined people's greatest contribution was stopping George for going full moron. Just read his first few scripts before the Fox producers made him change the story.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Star Wars was a group effort, yet he got all the praise
you have no idea what a director does
you would have no idea who the editor for the exorcist is without looking it up
9 months ago
Anonymous
>you have no idea what a director does
I do. >you would have no idea who the editor for the exorcist is without looking it up
And?
You're not very good at logic, aren't you?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I do.
doubt.mp4
9 months ago
Anonymous
There is a difference between what a director's job is, which is to put all the right people in all the right positions and oversee their work/wrangle them in the pursuit of the best possible film, and what Lucas did, which was constantly make giant project derailing mistakes that other more talented people had to fix for him.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>what Lucas did, which was constantly make giant project derailing mistakes that other more talented people had to fix for him.
such as? At this point you might as well link the RLM prequel videos because I know you're going to quote them verbatim and you have no original thoughts of your own
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not him, but I like how you totally ignored my post about Lucas' scripts being shit before the Fox producers barged in. And do we even get into the horrible version that had to get cut the hell and back, because the Death Star trench run took 45 fricking hours? How about the fact that Lucas couldn't direct actors for shit and Harrison Ford gave Mark Hamill more tips than George ever did?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>muh editing
Goodfellas was a complete mess until it got “saved” in the editing room, idk why fat manchild film experts don’t understand the process.
Also, stop turning Friedkin’s sticky into another one of your RLM gay fests.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>conversation about Star Wars being a group effort >well, you see, I.. uhh... umm... look, I'll just ignore that thing about script and directing actors. oh, and about bad editing, yeah, but... uh... Godfellas! haha, gotcha, chud!
Oh wow.
9 months ago
Anonymous
As I said, stop turning the Friedkin sticky into another excuse to make the same tired regurgitated RLM arguments about Star Wars for the trillionth time
9 months ago
Anonymous
>moron sperging about George Lucas for dozens posts, attacking everyone who disagrees >A-A-AKHTSUALLY... YOU SHOULD STOP RESPONDING TO ME BECAUSE STICKY! WHAT? MY POSTS? NO, THEY'RE NOT A PROBLEM. JUST EVERYONE ELSE'S!
9 months ago
Anonymous
damn dude, why are you so mad?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Because STAR WARS FRICKING SUCKS AND GEORGE LUCAS FRICKING SUCKS
9 months ago
Anonymous
>posting about feelings
Oh, sorry. I didn't know you're a woman.
9 months ago
Anonymous
please stop sucking wieners anon
9 months ago
Anonymous
I never did that and never will. Why are you so obsessed with wieners?
9 months ago
Anonymous
They’re so plump and juicy
9 months ago
Anonymous
>can't think of a reply >tell the other person to stop talking and act like you're above it all as if you didn't spend the last 10 posts mired in an argument
Classic
9 months ago
Anonymous
One person whining like a b***h at thin air isn't an argument
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I MUST TELL EVERYONE RLM’S OPINIONS ABOUT STAR WARS AGAIN
you guys lost your minds over those dumbass flicks
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're the only one obsessing about RLM, homosexual. All because one Anon said SW was a team effort and you got triggered.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The only person who lost their mind is you. You're obsessed with youtube videos from over a decade ago.
Frick off back to
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. You'll get more upvotes there
9 months ago
Anonymous
So anyway, Star Wars was a team effort. It's nice you agree with me.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Very ironic thing to say, considering all lucasgays are redditors
9 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Very ironic thing to say, considering all lucasgays are redditors
9 months ago
Anonymous
No u
9 months ago
Anonymous
The only person who lost their mind is you. You're obsessed with youtube videos from over a decade ago.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Goodfellas was a complete mess until it got “saved” in the editing room
More to the point point, movies aren't "saved" in editing, they're made in editing. Every movie ever made has been edited. If a movie is poorly written and directed, you can't "save" it with editing, no matter how hard you try. That's fricking moronic. If Billy was still alive he'd call anyone who thinks that way a moron too.
>The Godfather and The Exorcist are both masterpieces, anon. I think we'd be better off if the studios were still under the impression that a movie has to be good in order to make money, regardless of how you market it.
I agree but the customer is always right and it was Coppola, Scorsese, Friedkinetc... being self indulgent that brought the era to an end. Godfather and The Exorcist are masterpieces because they're entertaining and well made. If they could have kept up that level of quality there's no reason movies at that level couldn't have been made but they didn't with bad scripts, making shit up as they went along and shooting enough footage that they thought they could use to fix it in editing causing budgets to escalate beyond control, no different than what we've been seeing with movies today.
I really wish more movies for adults could have continued to be made but the market spoke and the studios just followed the money!!!FACT!!!
>If they could have kept up that level of quality there's no reason movies at that level couldn't have been made
Those two movies make up less than 1% of the movies that came out back then. Movies on that level STILL don't exist in large numbers. It was never sustainable because Hollywood puts out mostly forgettable shit and always has.
He made movies with bigger budgets than Sorcerer after Sorcerer came out, even accounting inflation some of them were much more expensive than Sorcerer was.
Blade Runner's theatrical cut had the voice over and editing ruined by studio execs.
But plenty of movies have bombed because of bad directors/other factors also, it is not always the studio's fault (though very often it is). Also people tend to put all the success and all the failures of a movie to the director's shoulders, which is pretty flawed thinking.
>“Take all of the responsibility, because you’re going to get all of the blame”
This is one of the good things about 70s cinema, they weren't afraid of putting flawed people into sympathetic protagonist roles. The cops in French Connection and 48 Hours are openly racist, Nicholson's character in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is a convicted pedophile etc
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This is one of the good things about 70s cinema, they weren't afraid of putting flawed people into sympathetic protagonist roles. The cops in French Connection and 48 Hours are openly racist, Nicholson's character in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is a convicted pedophile etc
The protags in Sorcerer are total buttholes and not sympathetic but compelling anyways. Main characters don't need to be likable to be good.
Almost all great directors have made more mediocre or bad movies than really great ones. Friedkin imo made 3 classics and then 2-3 really solid movies. That is lots more than othre directors.
for anyone that doesn't know, he has a new film set to come out this year. hopefully it's great so he can have left on a high note
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_Court-Martial_(2023_film)
About 10 years ago, they showed the director's cut of the Exorcist at a local theater. He gave a cool intro and told an interesting story about hiring Linda Blair. Of all the young girls they interviewed, she was one of the few who had no qualms about saying all of the nasty stuff from the script and leaned into it.
i dunno if its that he hates pacino here I think its that he's an old school guy and as far as he was concerned he gets final word. Although it is likely they didnt see eye to eye on set because Friedkin likes actors that don't constantly overthink things and who get shit done quickly/proficiently.
>Star Wars gays shit up a thread that has nothing to do with Star Wars for no apparent reason. >again
This is why SW fans need to be systematically executed. They make everything about them because of their intense, unending autism, when nobody gives a damn. Maybe Jaws and ANH being successful WAS a fricking mistake.
Anyways F when is this guy's last movie coming out?
R.I.P.
Haven't seen too many of his films but French Connection and The Exorcist are eternal masterpieces. I know he was a Joo but I like to think he was one of the good ones.
>Sad that the director of my favourite kino died >Read about him in remembrance >Learn he's got a new kino coming out >It's a legitimate movie
I'm hype bros
This guy was a fantastic public speaker too. Here he is talking about his movies and answering questions, and it's like a standup routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLCvMA4KM1I
F and RIP. One of the greatest American directors and understood how to treat prissy fricking actors, slap the frick out of them and threaten to shoot them. Also he sounded almost exactly like Donald Trump.
>forced a woman to blow a drumstick in a feature film
Based and RIP
Literally who? Are we supposed to know who this is?
he was an author, dream weaver, visionary, plus actor.'
He was known for his many traffic violations and reckless endangerment
exorcist 3 > 1
HUGEST F
the three origin stories in scorerer mog 80% of all films made before 2008 and 99% of films made after 2016. RIP FRIEDKING
>direct one of the best films
>this causes the career to collapse
what a shitty world, RIP
A movie women and effeminate men will never understand
rip big man you made my favourite film their will never be another like you
F
Looks boring
goddamn masterpiece
if only it didn’t open on the same weekend as Shit Wars
RIP
Damn, that sucks. I literally just finished watching Sorcerer four hours ago.
F
RIP
STICKY NOW
F, thanks for the kino
>it's real
Frick. This better get a fricking sticky.
>Friedkin was wry about his mishaps and mistakes. Remembering how he had tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash and turned down the chance to direct a video for Prince, he noted: “I’ve burned bridges and relationships to the point that I consider myself lucky to still be around. I never played by the rules, often to my own detriment. I’ve been rude, exercised bad judgment, squandered most of the gifts God gave me, and treated the love and friendship of others as I did Basquiat’s art and Prince’s music. When you are immune to the feelings of others, can you be a good father, a good husband, a good friend? Do I have regrets? You bet.”
>tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash and turned down the chance to direct a video for Prince
God, that’s so sick.
He sounds like a downtown Patrick Bateman here unironically inb4 based. Jason Blum mu$t be happy to his $1 billion new Exorcist trilogy to have a new "in tribute" promotion.
Funny if they attribute a quote praising it to Friedkin "he saw it right before he died"
he sounds nothing like that character you brain-dead zoomer homosexual
>tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash
One of the most based things I've ever read. That Black person couldnt paint for shit
Dude seemed like a total butthole during his heyday but mellowed out as he got older and became based.
Maybe we need more buttholes, digits man. Of course passionate buttholes like Friedkin, not David Russell or suchlike.
At least he was self-aware later on about what a twat he was and what it cost him in the long run. Too many who mellow out later are like "Ah well" about their earlier lifestyle and despite not being angry buttholes anymore, haven't really learned from it.
He was an butthole with the talent and savvy to back it tf up. To see what a Friedkin without talent looks like, see Peter Bogdanovich (he fricked Dorothy Stratton and her sister, and prime Candace Bergman, disgusting).
>tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash
Bet no one picked it up from the trash, tells a lot.
Oh no he threw a nog's scribbles to the trash! What a tragedy
>Remembering how he had tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash
>23f.jpg
>Remembering how he had tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash
As he was right to, what a fricking hack.
This is a children's drawing.
Ok, chud.
I can't draw. I could draw that.
It's never too late to learn anon
I dated an art major and she loved Basquiat and Keith Herring and those other 80s AIDS gays. Took her to an art museum that was hosting an original Rothco. She had no idea who that was that's when I knew I had to dump her.
The fact that you A) think Rothko is obscure, B) while mispelling his easy as frick name while C) not realizing there's virtually no difference between neoexpressionists (who were based) and abstract expressionists (who were cringe) makes me think she's better off now.
>how he had tossed a Basquiat drawing in the trash
Based.
>and turned down the chance to direct a video for Prince
Cringe. Friedkin + Prince would've been kino.
Friedkin and Harlan Ellison had a screaming match and came to blows in the middle of a restaurant and never spoke again because Ellison said that he, Friedkin, was NOT an awful writer, after Friedkin insisted he was.
This was when they were working on an adaptation of The Spirit and why it fell apart.
Anyway vaya con dios
>Harlan Ellison had a screaming match and came to blows
Really? I could not imagine this in a million years.
I have no idea if this is true but I believe it because it sounds exactly like those two guys.
I already saw:
The French Connection
The Exorcist
Sorcerer
Cruising
To Live and Die in L.A.
What Friedkin kino should I watch tonight?
killer joe.
Already saw it as well, forgot to add to the list
Killer Joe
that's the one with naked Juno Temple right?
>that's the one with naked Juno Temple right?
That really does not narrow it down.
Yeah
just lost my job and my semen retention streak
thanks a lot butthole
Nice bush
Bug
Bug
Bug.
The Guardian.
It's a like sidequel to the Evil Dead movies by the end.
Not him but thanks. I'll check it out.
Casually makes masterpiece after masterpiece. Goddamn this is so fricking sad 🙁
Bug and Killer Joe
French connection 2 is even better
the plot is so fricking simple yet its such a kino movie
>Popeye doyle comes to Marseille to help catch the bad guy from before
>turns out french people are corrupt and incompetent, who knew
>popeye spends half an hour getting drunk and trying to frick random french teenagers
>Popeye gets captured and forcibly addicted to heroin
>popeye is dumped in front of the police station and is secretly put through ghetto detox, including a full blood transplant (???) done in a moldy cellar with what appears to be a jury-rigged vacuum cleaner.
>this takes an additional half hour and Popeye eats grilled chicken and cries messily
>now popeye is clean from the smack and proceeds to harness the power of irish stubbornness in a footrace through all of marseille
>this takes another half hour
>at the end, popeye runs faster than a speedboat and shoots the bad guy from 200 meters with his snub nose .38, killing him instantly with one shot
some more stuff happens and there are some excellent gunfights
truly underrated gem, one of the best action thrillers of the 70s
Love it, you're a bro
I was surprised by part 2 is pretty good. I kinda wish Roy Scheider was in it. Gene hackman spends most of the movie drunk or high on drugs which is great. I like how sweaty and disgusting movies used to look. Every movie now looks too clean and smooth. I also like how Popeye has a foot fetish.
He lived and died in LA
Gina Gershon is built for men no less than a third of her age
F
Go watch Killer Joe if you haven’t
WILLY FRIEDKIN CROAKED?
F
I wonder if he found out about the afterlife https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNhBUt94yuk
My top 5 of his, guy was a kino machine
1. Sorcerer
2. The Exorcist
3. To Live and Die in LA
4. The French Connection
5. Cruising
If this doesnt get stickied I'm leaving forever
uh oh janny better act fast
Mark Kermode will be sad which is good. Other than that RIP, I hope he's in israelite heaven.
He was Catholic. The Exorcist, hello?
yesterday i went through his imdb page to check if he was still alive
i killed him bros
I never saw the Exorcist but French Connection is one of those old movies I enjoyed very much. Gives you some unfiltered views of White America New York too.
Ah yes, the dirty corrupted white paradise of NYC. Man I wish we could go back to daylight muggings and stabbings.
We have.
I didn't say that. It was a global city inside White America (which ended around 2001)
RIP
Damn, that sucks. I literally just finished watching Sorcerer four seconds ago
It's a shit movie but I still like it
It's over
Cinema TITAN RIP
RIP
Going to listen to the Sorcerer soundtrack now
RIP..
F for a certified kinomaster.
The advertising for these new movies is becoming too over the top.
Literally who
>calls refn a fricking idiot to his face and refn just accepts it
based
I like Refn but he does need to be told he's a fricking idiot sometimes.
Heemed
refn is better
Coppola?
I don't regard FFC as a New Hollywood filmmaker the same way I would Polanski or De Palma.
Who the frick do you have to be to get a sticky around here these days?
Me
An eceleb, that's all the underage homosexual moderators watch
Friedkin in the Criterion closet, he speaks so tenderly about Cassavetes
>pee-wee herman sticky almost before the fact
pee wee was more kino to be fair
Fun trivia. Paul Reubens was originally cast as the counterfeiter, Willem Dafoe only got it when Reubens got his first big Pee-wee offer
damn
>mfw it was my thread that got stickied
Apparently he had finished a updated remake of the Caine Mutiny. It stars Kiefer Sutherland and Lance Reddick.
Glad we'll at least get one more kino from him.
Also just looked it up and it seems like it'll be Lance Reddick's last film too. Hopefully it'll be a good one.
Lucas, Spielberg, Scorsese, De Palma and Coppola are the ones left
Grim. Some of these have been bad for longer than they were ever good.
May God protect Marty.
People live longer now. I think Coppola is unfortunately next. He is 84 and Megalopolis seems like it was a giant undertaking. Scorsese is 80. I think he'll push in to his 90's, if I recall his mom lived really long and I genuinely hope he manages to stick around to give us couple more kinos and make MCU shitters seethe and cope.
Spielberg is healthy and 76, he is probably on some tribal high tech stem cell shit so he'll be around for one more decade at least. Lucas is not very healthy, too fat and he is 79. Though he does not make movies anymore so no stress.
De Palma is 82 and he's unfortunately the most "forgotten" one. There has been critical revaluation of his work since the 90's but I fear he will get the proper respect he deserves only when he dies.
Tarantino did a lot to increase De Palmas reputation over the years. There are a shit ton of interviews where he said that De Palma is the best director in cinema history and did everything Hitchwiener wished he could, he praised Blow Out as being the best film ever made since the 90s.
But his last few movies, especially his Denmark one, were really fricking bad, his last one he apparently had zero creative control over and his crew wasn't paid on time.
>Spielberg
>Lucas
They don't deserve to be grouped with the other New Hollywood greats. They are the grandfathers of capeshit and if Star Wars had been a dud we'd be in a much better place right now
In another world Spielberg went on making tense thrillers like Duel or the pilot episode of Columbo instead of creating and perfecting blockbusters and Lucas making experimental sci-fi. But it was clear that New Hollywood was never going to last long. People burned out I guess and the Blockbusters were ready to destroy everything else.
>New Hollywood was never going to last long. People burned out I guess and the Blockbusters were ready to destroy everything else.
Partially correct but if Star Wars hadn't been an absolute phenomenon I think the 80s would have been a bit healthier. Chasing the money Lucas showed was possible was bad for American film.
Spielberg is too legitimately talented as a director to be grouped with Lucas, even if he's more commercial than the other New Hollywood types
THX1138 and American Graffiti are both art, Storybergs “artistic” movies are ZOG propaganda and the rest are disposable popcorn entertainment.
yawn
People have been shitting on Lucas for about 4 decades now but there is cinema past and before Star Wars and it is hard for many people to comprehend how much that film changed filmmaking, especially american filmmaking. People have seen it copied so many times that they don't understand the significance of Star Wars and how revolutionary it was.
Ok. But Lucas is still a deeply mediocre director.
wrong
The Prequel trilogy are the last pieces of legitimate high budget art in the last 20+ years.
Especially Episode 2 went completely against the style of the time and presented a rather slow paced film noir with acting that was explicitly stylized after said genre. Lucas isn't a moron who can't direct actors or a movie, given how great American Graffiti and THX is, he knew what he was doing and made a certain stylistic choice he went all the way with.
And with Episode 3 he dedicated 100% towards it to make it essentially a 50s sword and sandale movie about the fall of Rome.
This is why nobody gives a shit about the soulless Disney rehashes and the prequels are still talked today partly even more favorably than the OT since they were explicitly done as arthouse movies with million dollar budgets.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The prequels are mediocre but creative
The sequels are shit and uncreative but have better cgi due to technological advancements. One man's vision vs a soulless corporation with no idea what they were doing and too many egos fighting.
Agree, though he and Lucas complemented each other perfectly for the Indy movies
Spielberg and Lucas killed New Hollywood but New Hollywood was going to collapse anyways because of the movies flopping and the directors having too much control
I hate how people discredit Lucas just because of fricking Star Wars as if THX and American Graffiti aren't great movies
>THX and American Graffiti aren't great movies
They are but if Star Wars had only made as much as, say, The Sting, Lucas wouldn't have been locked into the path that he took and could have made further good films of a wider variety
New Hollywood was not Lucas and The Berg it included
>Brian De Palma
>Francis Ford Coppola
>Martin Scorsese
>Robert Altman
>William Friedkin
>Dennis Hopper
>Hal Ashby
>Michael Cimino
>Mike Nichols
>Stanley Kubrick
>Bob Rafelson
Lucas and The Berg were considered A/V incels by these based dope smoking swordsmen
Was kubrick too? He was always an outsider. To Hollywood. To the film waves. Everything.
Scorsese has been as active and lucid as he is now for the past 30 years. I too think he'll last long.
there is no way coppola is still alive
he had like 2 heart attacks on the set of apocalypse now, thats over 40 years ago
Martin Sheen had the heart attacks. Coppola just shot Megalopolis, the epic film he's tried to make since the 80's.
how ?
he has to be at least in his late 80s
Being 80 years old doesn't mean you can't make movies, Clint worked well into his 90s.
Clint has a very low-key style, one of the most casual, while Coppola has the opposite
Because he is a kinoman to the end. He's 84. People don't realize how young he was when he got his big break. I think he was 30 something when he made Godfather.
shit, thats crazy
he's looked like he was in his mid to late 40s as soon as his beard grew in
Will all the pedo stuff come out about Sheen when he passes?
RIP to a legend https://youtu.be/1jPWGEoyJHY
>i have only two questions
>i have a third: is there a medic for this man?
Milius is still kicking too, but he had a stroke and hasn't made anything in a long time
That's true, forgot about him, maybe because I still think him more as a screenwriter.
Paul Schrader is also still alive and Oliver Stone. And Terrence Malick, Ridley Scott, David Lynch and Woody Allen.
Paul Schrader is chruning out movies left and right, that's a man who's going to die in the saddle. Listening to him give talks is kinda painful because he's got asthma and I'm constantly afraid he's going to suffocate
He's also a mean little b***h and his leaks from the Oscar voting were funny.
Quick rundown? Something antiwoke?
I should say, it's kinda hard to distinguish him and Brian Cox. They both have a catty streak in their speech. But, yeah, stuff about the entitlement of saying any Black movie should get an Oscar nom.
I like his boomer faceberg posts, he even interacts with his fans.
He's going to keep posting until he dies kek
I should do this with Paul Schrader to let him know there is at least someone who understands that Affliction is the best movie of all time
He’s pretty active on Facebook, you could send him something on messenger.
Woody Allen deserved to die almost a century ago
Should have died before he was going to direct Annie Hall. He had a couple of funny and unpretentious ones before that.
>only two of these actually still regularly direct and one of the two seems to have lost his teeth around the mid to late 2000s, the other has somewhat disappeared up his own ass to a degree
But hey, Coppola's finally gonna make Megalopolis eh...?
I hope it's not a senile trainwreck
I saw Tetro. It will be.
Spielberg is next, screencap this post
God I fricking hope so.
WHERE'S THE FRICKING STICKY??
Thank you for all, Master.
I guess this explains why we didn't hear from him about the whole French Connection controversy
It's a pretty big censorship. Surprised it isn't being talked about more. Especially since The French Connection is considered one of the all time American greats
Maybe Marty killed himself when he learned he was being blamed for censoring his own masterpiece. Seems incredibly fishy.
Fricking weird watching his criterion closet picks from almost a decade ago
Was he one of the few israelites who didn't marry into the kabal?
>a israelite dies
Rejoice!
>no sticky for a legend with at least 3 70s classics under his belt.
Is that Blue Velvet Dennis Hopper or was he in a Friedkin kino too?
You can see the blue velvet in that picture
Blue Velvet is Lynch's most accessible feature because he shows the audience the titular blue velvet very early, that way they aren't confused.
Straight Story is his most accessible film. Or Elephant Man.
I watched both of those and was totally confused the whole time wondering where the blue velvet was.
its blue velvet but its still appropriate because worthless zoomer mods didn't even give Hopper a sticky.
another clotshot victim.
RIPBOZO
>Still no sticky
Holy frick
Anon, he was reported dead awhile ago. What do you know that we technically don't?
oh shit
nevermind, i mistyped hha
dont look into it
We're onto you, Michael, and we'll make sure you NEVER get funding for another 3x over budget movie by faking your death and directing under a different name.
pfff, ridiculous
Its not that citizen kane is the only classic or even the best his point is that it takes time for a classic to reveal itself and the movie refn is chirping about has been out for 5 minutes.
STICKY NOW YOU homosexual MODS HOLY FRICK I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING BUT CAPESHIT BUT DEAR LORD DO YOUR JOBS FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE FAT troony LIVES
MODS STICKY
ITT: TIMES YOU ACTED LIKE THE POPE'S EXORCIST
no sticky means no mods watching the board
Nah they're just fricking homosexuals
RIP genius director.
>Make the ultimate horror movie.
>Don't deserve a sticky on Cinemaphile
Looking back at the series. It's crazy how dreadful The Exorcist 2 was. I mean, Boorman was an interesting director and then you see The Exorcist 2. And it's all-round failure. Especially the part where Reagan is sexualized, Burton seems dead inside and getting more and more drunk every other frame, the execution and the plot are all just sickening and mind-boggling. The Exorcist 3 was great however.
>It's crazy how dreadful The Exorcist 2 was.
Look up Friedkin’s fairly recent reaction to it
Lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D4cPXpvHjI
>Burton seems dead inside and getting more and more drunk every other frame
That was basically like every film he made since the 70s
Exorcist 3 being made by William Blatty of course is a huge advantage over 2. Also Brad Dourif!
>Brad Dourif
brad is kino, why wasn't he ever a bigger name than he was?
He’s a character actor.
Maybe he's just a good actor and not a "star", I dunno
Blatty wasn't even a film director by career, it's a little ridiculous to get mogged by him so badly
That’s not the canonical series. It’s:
The Exorcist
The Ninth Configuration
Exorcist III: Legion
All high tier kino
>Burton seems dead inside and getting more and more drunk every other frame
Which was inspired casting. His movie Absolution nearly rivals Exorcist for dread and has a real sinister grip, and The Medusa Touch is like The Exorcist of 9/11 predictive programming kino. Highly recommended. Boreman did Burton wrong
Boorman is on the level of Friedkin to me personally. Not as influential maybe. But Zardoz, Excalibur, and Point Blank are all certified kino. He knew his craft but he wasn't suited to the genre. Kinda see how Dave Black folk failed at doing an epic full of action. He can perhaps only do his atmospheric spoopy arty shit (which I'm not a great fan of).
Having watched all of them recently, The Exorcist has two modes; stone cold classic, and fresh steaming turd. No in-between. And they even switch back and forth for your viewing pleasure
>1: Stone cold
>2: Fresh steaming
>3: Stone cold
>"4"/0: Fresh steaming
I would like to say Exorcist Believer is due to be stone cold but while not a classic, the alternate cut of 4/0 by Schrader was marginally better so I think that threw off the rhythm and we're back to fresh steaming.
Kokumo?
I love both Boorman and Friedkin but their styles and attitudes couldn't be any more different. It was never going to work.
Reagan is hot.
Burke thought so too that's why he was upstairs trying to diddle her when Demon Reagan twisted his head and threw him out the window.
unironically r.i.p.
I don't give a flying frick through a rolling donut what Al Pacino thinks.
F for this absolute legend
For me its Sorcerer, top shelf Friedkino
Kermode is going into mourning for 40 days
For me, it's Bug
Do your fricking job stupid homosexual jannies!
Too busy wanking in the Barbie troon and Hunter threads again?
Someone post the list of all the people who didn't get stickies
>Disney censors The French Connection
>Dies
Frick
F
>the exorcist
>sorcerer
>to live and die in LA
>the french connection
Great stuff, RIP
>I don't give a flying frick into a rolling donut about what Al Pacino thinks -- is that an answer to your question?
>donut
dunkin
F
F. If you havent seen sorcerer yet it is your duty to do so tonight
Sticky plz
Big F.
Also, who's next? The ones in black and white are already dead.
Lynch is next
Where am I going to check for reliable weather reports then?!
He stopped doing reports like 10 months ago, homosexual
Not as long as the moon still rises.
When Lynch and Coppola go there will be nobody left worth caring about
Scorsese
>No Dennis Hopper
Frick UUUU
It's going to be Von Trier, he's got Parkinsons
It's gonna be rough, I think he's going to kill himself.
Nah he's not going to give that satisfaction to anyone
Jodorowsky or Clint.
Jodorowsky looks alright, he's a wizard might hit 100, Kenneth Anger lived to 96.
Jodo said he's going to live to 120 and I don't see any reason to doubt him
Weirdo probably made a bargain with satan for it so I buy it
Mel Brooks is old as shit. My money is on him.
he's almost 100 isnt he?
Why is Mel Brooks and Spielberg there, neither are auteurs.
I went with 25 random big director names who are 75+, although I forgot Robert Redford and he should've been on instead of someone like Verhoeven or Weir.
Redford retired from acting with fricking Avengers as his final role
No wait, I just checked IMDB and apparently he played a dolphin monster? WTF
That was a coincidence tho, his Endgame cameo was filmed way before his final film.
Also they probably paid him a shit ton of money to appear in this garbage movie (while I can see him appear in Winter Soldier because of the script)
He appeared in Winter Soldier because of his grandkids iirc. And it probably helped that it was sort of aping three days of the condor
>it was sort of aping three days of the condor
in the sense that its three days of the condor for pea brained apes, yeah
Robert Wise, Franklyn J Shaftner, Joe Dante, Rin Taro
jodorosky
Dario may as well already be dead tbh, De Palma, Coppola and Cronenberg too. Marty, Spielberg, Miyazaki and Polanski are the only ones here who can be relied on to drop another kino in their lifetime.
Lynch will outlive most of these guys but i doubt he makes another film. He seems to be finished now like John Carpenter is.
Spielberg hasn't made kino in decades
Filtered
>Lynch will outlive most of these guys but i doubt he makes another film. He seems to be finished now like John Carpenter is.
Lynch was literally spotted filming a new series in Los Angeles right before the actors strike. He has a deal in place. It's unknown if it's Twin Peaks related.
The title is confirmed as Wisteria.
https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2023/7/9se6ghcokfgvywducnft1s8ohdurg8
Norman israeliteison?
I'm calling Eastwood before the end of 2023 and that Rip Torn will still be alive in 2033.
Rip Torn died years ago
That's what he wants us to think.
Miyazaki is the only one I will be sad about
LMAO
Love em both. He's right.
The Exorcist > French Connection > Live and Die in LA
Bonus:
Sorcerer
What the frick am I watching :
Guardian
F
rip in peace
Your mother sucks wieners in hell!!!
F
OOoooOOoooOOOOoo
I AM THE GHOST OF PETER O'GOOF
BOUND BY THE CHAINS OF SHITPOSTERS AND NOSTALGIAgayS
I WILL FOREVER HAUNT THIS BOARD UNTIL I GET MY STICKY
an overrated movie that has been made fun of for decades
on;y came to this shit thread for this
RIP
I watched The French Connection just last week and thought it was just ok. The chase scenes and buildup to the end were good but other than that a lot of it just felt like random shit happening with no real narrative structure.
Marty? Coppola? Also De Palma is the king of dishonest filmmaking.
Rip
To Live And Die In LA is such a sick movie
Crazy coincidence. I watched The French Connection last night.
no, Refn just said that OGF was "a masterpiece" because it was the exact movie he set out to make. Friedkin took masterpiece to mean "the greatest film ever"
Hey I don't want to sound like a queer or nothing, but I can't help noticing that there's still no sticky
RIP to a legend.
In addition to his movies, he was an incredible speaker (picrel is pretty much just him talking to camera for 90 minutes) where you could look up any old Q&A or interview and just be totally captivated. Shit-talking king, disappointed we won't get to hear him cut loose on that new Exorcist movie.
Saw it recently. Didn't not enjoy a single moment! Love how Friedkin is kind of like Nabokov. Opinionated, boisterous even but funny as hell unlike Nab. Nowadays no one can be rude, critical and unique. Directors then had personalities too.
WE GOT STICKY.
RIP. He was talented and The Exorcist, Sorcerer and French Connection will last in the history of cinema.
Also, deserves a sticky ofc
Oh wow the troony jannies actually stickied.
still no sticky for mark margolis……
>mark margolis
wait what the FRICK?! when did this happen?!?! there was seriously no sticky?? this board is fricking dead
Most people only remember him as funny wheelchair man from Breaking Bad
ANNNND ace ventura's landlord
I feel old when I say this but kids these days haven't seen Ace Ventura
so what...it's not like this place is full of kids. we're all in our late 30s around here right?
Hahaha, yeah. Yeah. That's why everybody I remember from my childhood keeps fricking dying...
I was born in 2004
have a nice day zoomer scum
>there was seriously no sticky??
Yeah it was weird tbh, he was famous enough to deserve a sticky.
Just last week. I watched Aronofsky’s Pi in his honour, was pretty amazing movie for like a 200k movie
THIS STICKY CAN SOCK ME
RIP Mark Margolis.
William Sneedkin
Formerly Chuckin
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I’m rewatching Sorceror tonight.
I'm very happy how Sorcerer was recognised as the terrific cinema it is recently. Could've become a hit if it were titled something more fitting and cast Steve McQueen. A while ago, I saw Wages Of Fear and it wasn't as good, frankly.
>Sorcerer
>cast Steve McQueen
Was McQueen ever attached? Dream kino
Yes, the Schieder character, but McQueen had just gotten married and wanted to be with his wife and Friedkin wouldn't compromise on the movie (filming in the US, writing in a part for her, making her a producer) so he dropped out
He was. But then he quit because he demanded Friedkin to give his wife a role (a prominent one at that) and he didn't want to shoot at such a dangerous location. The backstory is quite interesting and a bit sad.
It was never going to be a hit as long as it was releasing alongside Star Wars tbh. morons would rather watch that 10 times in the plex than see true Friedkino once.
Sorcerer is kino but I can't imagine a world where it never flopped. The first half hour isn't in English (people got confused what movie it was) and the title is moronic.
I think it’s quite an accesible movie, even by today’s standards, let alone the 70s. It starts off with 4 amazing action scenes.
But it’s true a different title and a real star would have made it huge.
Can't blame people for wanting to see Star Wars. First one is goddamned awesome and would've been mind blowing at the time. It was released a month after Star Wars, I'd say it's title is the biggest issue.
>based depictor of catholic struggle through the eyes of a priest.
The Exoricist fricked me up in 2 very different ways, and him being gone makes me feel like a little piece of me in gone. He will be sorely missed.
Now that janny stickied it
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Rip Big Willy, one of the greats ;_;7
'Leap of Faith' was such a great slept on documentary. just Friedkin banter, telling great stories and behind the scenes feats.
HIGHLY recommend if you want to celebrate his life today with something fresh
https://letterboxd.com/film/leap-of-faith-william-friedkin-on-the-exorcist/
finally got stickied.
big F for this lad. Watching the theatrical cut of exorcist tonight in his honour. Will spend the rest of the week watching his other kinos capped off with the clip of him making Refn cry
Ive only seen the exorcist, what should i watch next? live and die in la, cruising, french connection, killer joe, sorcerer? i know i should watch them all but I have other things i need to get done in my free time
Try Sorcerer for that killer soundtrack by Tangerine Dream
Watch Sorcerer first then French Connection and To Live And Die
Live and Die
The French Connection is one of the best crime/police thrillers ever made.
Watch Sorcerer if you want a badass jungle adventure that is his most original kino in terms of tone and setting.
Watch French Connection is you want a gloomier, grimier neo-noir than Heat, it is the Heat of the 1970s
Watch Live and Die in L.A. if you prefer 1980s Michael Mann like Manhunter and Miami Vice, because Friedkin arguably outdid him
Watch Killer Joe if you're with chick, or your roommates are drunk normies
Bug is his most underrated mindfrick but it's a low budget motel setting.
YMS gave Bug a 1/10 lmao
YMS fricks dogs, so don't take anything he says seriously. Bug is kino
Because he's a fricking homosexual who fricks dogs
I could give a rats ass about what he thinks
>Bug is his most underrated mindfrick but it's a low budget motel setting.
It also features excellent acting by Ashley Judd-- good directors get the best out of otherwise so-so actos
If you like Judd in Bug you gotta watch her in the bank robbery movie Normal Life by the Red Rock West director. And some of the hottest near real sex scenes with her.
now that the dust has settled...
his best work, yes. what about it?
Why was Joe Ezsterhas so horni?
Watchable but not great. Yes, even the recut
Checked. What drew Friedkin to Jade in the first place? Was he truly trying to top Basic Instinct because it's sadly tame, or was it just excited to ride a script by bloaty con artist Ezterhaus? Jade always plays like a rare pulled punch
Jesus, it's like Linda Fiorentino was built in a lab to be my perfect ideal of a woman.
RIP. There will never be directors like this again.
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Wow look the trannie jannies actually did their job
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Rewatching Sorcerer tonight, that bridge scene is the most tense shit ever put on film
rip. much respect to a G O A T
spit on your sticky
Frick off Refn, you're a hack.
DAMMIT
NOW HE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SEE THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE EXORCIST
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I literally JUST started doing a Friedkin/Schrader double feature every night for the past three days. I watched Sorcerer just last night. This is all my fault, bros. I'm sorry. Keep an eye on Paul.
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French Connection is my favorite, especially the chase scene.
Friedkin's interviews are fricking hilarious.
John Landis is still alive people. He’s not working thoughever.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
>screenshot pic related a month ago
So fricking unexpected, I don't care about 99% of Cinemaphile death stickies.
Watched Sorcerer for the first time at a small local theater this weekend, hell of a movie. Chatting with someone in the audience and they recommended this docu to me, might have to check it out today. (though lol at the idea that Hurricane Billy was ever "filtered")
it's good, watch it
>literally who gets a sticky
>revealing yourself to be a pleb
Took a while
LITERALLY WHOMST??
It's maybe a good thing that he didn't live to see The McExorcist coming out this year.
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One of my all time favorite directors. Sp many kino movies. He was supposed to make a new movie with Kiefer Sutherland this year too.
>supposed to
It is finished and premiering in Venice.
Hopefully it's at least decent. His latest - Killer Joe - was okay.
vax stat?
never heard about him
Sorcerer is one of the movies of all time.
RIP.
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A true kinoman
Why did he censor Popeye Doyle saying Black person before he passed away, lads?
Or is his death part of a coverup:::?
https://hollywood-elsewhere.com/friedkin-probably-did-it-but-inferring-this-would-be-impolite/
if you've exhausted his classic stuff, The Hunted fricking rules as well. RIP
Just recently re watched Sorcerer, French Connection and The Exorcist and coincidentally also watched RIP, he was one of the greats.
That one is essentially a more true to the novel adaption of First Blood. I argue it's also better than the Stallone movie.
The opening scene in Bosnia is fricking dogshit, I hope it picks up
idk if someone already posted this ITT, but do yourself a favour and watch https://youtu.be/b-UogrWajyg
>this was a controversial moment
>it's a fist-fricking scene
>when you were researching and you were going into these clubs, did you have to obey the dress code? cause i read an interview once in which you said you went on jockstrap once
>yes, and i was the ugliest guy in the room! nobody ever hit on me
Goddammit the things people will do for art
>the pussy posse
him shitting on pacino never gets old
>Pure. Male. Pornography.
lmfao
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RIP
For me, it’s the Pakino he did called “Cruising”. i was reading about it and apparently it set the gay rights movement back for fricking years because based Friedkin didn’t give two fricks about muh optics and made a gay serial killer movie.
It's also fricking kino how he bamboozled everyone with the identity of the killer, and gave no fricks about explaining anything, instead he used all his media appearances to talk shit about Pacino.
Hilariously gays nowadays treat the movie like a classic when back in the day they seethed over it.
Most of the gays who protested the film would die from AIDS from the acts depicted in the film so Billy wins that round
Also an excellent soundtrack if you like sleazy punk and gutter rock.
He had great taste when it came to contemporary artists doing score / soundtrack work. This, Tangerine Dream for Sorcerer, Wang Chung for To Live And Die.
Did Friedkin produce any based kino we should add to our marathons?
I'm not sure if I understand what you're asking but these are his best.
Outside of his own directing, did Friedkin produce movies by other people, and if so which of those movies he worked on as a producer are recommended?
He was involved with Paper Moon
Imo Bug and Killer Joe are some of his best work since To Live And Die
Don't forget the Don Ellis score for French Connection
lol so they just give stickies to every random nobody these days
i like that the mods had to write who he was on the thread so we would know, kek, great movie anyway, sad that he died
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Sometimes you just gotta slap a priest
he truly feels like the last Hollywood to not mince words, speak his mind, and truly not give a shit who it upsets while not being rabidly political. Schrader
is like this, but he does it to "own the libs", while Friedkin stayed above the politics
Nah wtf I literally watched the french connection the other week
R.I.P
rip
watched to live and die in la a few days ago and really liked it. also saw the exorcist, sorcerer and the french connection which are all fantastic too. surprised he's not considered one of the greats like kubrick and others.
>surprised he's not considered one of the greats like kubrick and others.
What planet do you live on where he isn't considered a great director
i think his meaning was why he isn't spoken with the bated-breath-reverence of Kubrick or Hitchwiener. everyone considers him a "great", but the feeling i get is he's more divisive than others
i've only seen 2 of his movies, but i think it's because his films are more concerned with "base" and grimy subjects manner like lust, fear, violence, etc, unlike something high-concept and lofty like Kubrick's 2001
Most of his movies past "To Live and Die in LA" were utter trash, literally only The Hunted (a remake of First Blood), Rules of Engagement and Killer Joe were good.
And all of his prior French Connection movies are also trash.
I get it he probably got the John Milius treatment of never getting proper funding due to being too controversial to work with and had to rely on awful contract work, but still.
>To Live and Die in LA
kino
based and wang chung pilled
Wang Chung chads
endlessly rewatchable movie
it's way better than it has any rights to be
Let's not forget the best Friedkin inspired album cover and band of all time, anons.
Theres also this though Im not a Panthera guy myself.
>surprised he's not considered one of the greats like kubrick and others.
He is, fricking zoomer
Friedkin has always been acclaimed as ONE of the greatest filmmakers ever. Kubrick is one of very few people often acclaimed as THE greatest filmmakers ever, it’s not a knock on Friedkin to not reach that level of respect.
A blessing
kek
They have made like a million fricking exorcist movies since the 70s. Why would he give a frick.
May he Rest In Peace.
Friedkin is making the point that you can’t predict what will and won’t stand the test of time, that Refn has a currently popular movie but it could very well be completely forgotten a few decades, so it’s moronic to proclaim it a masterpiece. Citizen Kane is the one of the movies that has stood the test of time the longest, and illustrates his point the best.
Drive is beloved here and there but you can see that people don't already think of first when when there's a discussion on good movies that came out last decade. I don't think it'll endure either but let's see.
Funnily I think it will end up retaining a similar status to some of Friedkin's slightly more marginal works i.e. Sorcerer.
thank you the kinos
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He had a film with kiefer sutherland in the making that sounded kino. We'll never see it now.
The generation of directors that built Modern Hollywood on their backs are dying off and the talent pool today is ankle deep. I don't even want to know what the average serving of entertainment will be even 5 years from now, this is literally depressing
Scorsese, Spielberg and Lucas are still alive
And Scorsese is the only one of them doing anything worthwhile
The reboot really is cursed, huh. RIP.
bump
I dont know what it is but even now Friedkin's movies feel so visceral and real in a way movies don't anymore.
Is it because he used to make documentaries or because he treated his actors like shit to get good performances out of them?
He was concerned with making something genuine so yes it's both
>because he treated his actors like shit to get good performances out of them?
Didn't work out for David O. Russell who hasn't made a single great film. It's just different I guess. Our cultural climate is just full of noise, nervousness and apathy.
We won't get to hear him shit on the new exorcist
I literally had "City of the Angels" by Wang Chung stuck in my head a few hours ago. Damn.
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How come there aren't directors who aren't 80 anymore?
Gonna be hilarious to see what Hollyisraelite does in 5 years when the rest die.
I welcome their destruction... Pumping out shit just for short term profits.
There will be a dark age where movies don't really get made for 10 years and we can all catch up since people only watch a movie every 3 years now. And then somebody with some kind of vision will start making things again and usher in a new era.
>There will be a dark age where movies don't really get made for 10 years and we can all catch up
Normies won't watch anything unless hollywood tells them to
To be fair, the situation in American cinema was pretty similar before New Hollywood. The old masters like Ford were dying off and though there were a few talents like Welles it was mostly churned out studio crap. Then New Hollywood came around and everything changed. Hopefully something similar happens soon.
>New Hollywood came around and everything changed. Hopefully something similar happens soon.
Lmao. Buddy, don't you know Hollywood is exploding itself with these strikes so it can relocate to Saudi Arabia and "Best Ally"? You think Tarantino moving over there and all these "imports" like Euphoria and Gal Gadot are coincidence?
Gal Gadot is a member of literally the most hated enemy on the entire planet of the arabs you moron wtf are you on about
Hey fricktard, Jared Kushner is the one arranging half these Saudi deals thanks to le "Abraham Accords" signed by your daddy dom Trump, and the other half is being handled by Rahm Emanuel's brother, who runs Hollywood single handedly
>There will be a dark age
Youre living it. And yes, there will be a new wave. There always will be. The nature of Hollywood is cyclical.
One also wonders if cinema isn't a dying form anyway. Afterall nobody lives in a monoculture anymore. The internet was a mortal blow to creativity in all its forms I fear. Sort of how cinema badly injured literature heh.
There are the Gen X directors like Quentin Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson, David Fincher, Wes Anderson, Sofia Coppola, James Gray, Coen Brothers etc. etc.
We are still waiting for the millenial directors tor really pop up. There are some like Barry Jenkins, Ryan Googler, The Daniels, Chloe Zhao, Damian Chazelle etc. But if you compare to Gen X directors and their ages when they popped up in the 90's, most of them were in their mid 20's or early 30's. Now it seems like most millenial directors get their start later. I don't know if it is industry politics and boomers/Gen X latching more to the power or what. But I have definitely noticed it is a thing.
Part of it's because film making, namely the production aspect of it, is genuinely tough and millennials are pussies who can't work.
But some of it is Hollywood becoming more corporatized and bureaucratic, not to mention the union politics of different jobs and dealing with basket cases like actors would make anyone pull their out. You also have the internet mentioned here making people way more independent
. You see how there's barely any "mono culture" dictated by Hollywood anymore outside of maybe one film every couple of years and you have these millennials wondering, with the work it takes just to make a film, why bother getting into the business if your film's cultural shelf life will probably last a few months at most?
Personally I think these kids could make a New Hollywood era, they have to stop relying on the traditional method of getting into theaters or some big corporate entity like Netflix. Aside from the work involved, being a film maker involves a lot of self-confidence and the need to sell your idea to producers and investors. And that self-confidence is something millennials really lack, particularly the over-medicated ones.
>You see how there's barely any "mono culture" dictated by Hollywood anymore outside of maybe one film every couple of years
Is this supposed to be a problem? Why do people think not watching the same shit as everybody else like an NPC is a bad thing?
>seems like most millenial directors get their start later. I don't know if it is industry politics
It's nepotism. And they have to filter and filter until the only remaining millennial directors who are "crowned" with careers are confirmed to be LGBT and brew friendly. Plus there's no Weinstein around now who was seeking auteur filmmakers to helm films and not hipstery geeks to make genre flicks like Blumhouse and worse, A24. There are people at A24 who swear Talk Like Me is worthy of Friedkin lmao
It's unfair to assume ALL modern directors are israeli nepo babbies
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Why did most of the New Holllywood directors get JUSTed so hard? Most just kind of fell off after they stopped making the studios money and they wanted nothing to do with them.
A lot of them at their core were just surreallist hippie types with insane tastes.
Friedkin made one of the best movies ever and it bombed, bombed hard. So yeah thats why they got shafted by hollywood their movies bombed. But seriously sorcerer is fricking kino and should've won all the Oscars.
See
Sorcerer got clearly sabotaged. Suddenly all critics acted like it's the worst shit ever. And when you read the old reviews, they really struggle to give a reason why that is. But bad word of mouth destroyed that movie and Friedkin's career.
It was "sabotaged" because it came out shortly after Star Wars which got all the attention and box office. Lots of people argue the title "Sorcerer" also didn't communicate to audiences what the movie is about. It also did not destroy Friedkin's career, he made great movies like To Live and Die in L.A. after Sorcerer.
If this movie came out today it'd probably sweep because of how pathetic the competition would be, but then people would b***h that it's racist despite having a mostly non-white cast and sexist for having zero prominent female roles.
fricking bullshit movie not a single DAMN wizard in the entire thing
The late 60's and 70's were very beneficial for directors. They had more power than directors had in the classical studio system. In the 70's the studio system itself was in turmoil, lots of changes, lots of changing the old guard. Independent productions became a bigger thing etc. Young directors got more chances and they took them. Then when the 80's came, the studio system was again becoming more powerful and more importantly very corporate. The modern studio system we have now started all the way back in the 80's. Movies became more like products, product placement became a bigger thing, international markets, VHS, action schlock became more popular etc. Some high profile movies like Sorcerer, Heaven's Gate, The Thing etc. flopped and critics attacked against the directors and the studio system as well.
Mods, add this as the thread song:
where is the Mark Margolis jannies?
THE JANNIES CAN SOCK ME
also RIP
RIP in piece.
This guy is a fricking legend. I know people will talk about The Exorcist, but look at his work and you'll see many great movies.
Rest In Peace, I pay my respects
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he couldn't bare to watch the new exorcist movie
Kinda based actually. George Lucas didn't even die for the Star Wars sequels.
No one will or talks about Only God Forgives now. Its a Nothing Movie. Drive is the same.
>who is Chris stuckmann
ummm literally who??? give me attention please
Who?
rest in peace billy
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RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weTmdGoN_SQ
Friedkinoisseurs are too smart to give teenaged brown mexican literally who? Black folk (You)s
you ain't baitin' me boy
go pick your feet in poughkepsie
Literally Who and What movie?
Rest in Peace Friedkin. One of the greatest directors of his generation.
RIP
love billy so much it's unreal
He's next, isn't he? He hasn't looked healthy for a while.
Not until Megalopois is finished
That means it's working.
homie he was literally 87 years old. You don't live much longer than that.
You would if you didn't fall for it.
ooooooOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOooooooo your mother sucks wieners in hell
RIP. Exorcist is still the only movie that genuinely scared me. A masterful work of art.
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Just checked wikipedia and he has a film set to release this year and its boat related so you know its going to be great https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_Court-Martial_(2023_film)
RIP
the whole talk is great
friedkin obviously so much more of a life person so much more sociable and experienced
while refn and his slightly on the spectrum persona tries to remain calm in the presence of a legend
love it
RIP dawg, one of the best New Hollywood directors
Is he israeli? just wondering if I should be pressing F or pressing S. tbh,Exorcist was a good movie.
He was
S
no
cope
Friedkin was a israelite, but he was based as frick.
Jesus was a israelite. Friedkin made one of the best ever Christian movies.
Thank frick someone posted this, probably Friedkins best work
Friedkin looking over and doing that backhanded "Yikes. That just happened." reddit shit was embarrassing. Refn is a reddit director himself, but Jesus Christ.
He's right about Drive, thoughout.
Where did Regan get the witchboard from, anyway?
Pazuzu posted it from Iraq
ffs
Is Sorcerer worth checking out or should I watch the original french version?
they're both great
Watch both. They are different enough with unique strengths to stand separately.
watch both, but the original first
Both are great and well worth watching. The French film is not "the original", both are adaptations of a book and are not carbon copies of one another. Personally I prefer Sorcerer but both are great.
>the bottom-middle image
positively traumatic
The picrel is the Polish poster for the film, always reminds me of that.
polish posters go hard
They sure do
>polish posters go hard
Except when they don't.
toplel
>"I felt then and still do that Sorcerer is the best film i've made"
Such a good movie.
RIP fella
Flip the cover anon.
I flip it every time i rewatch it
Wages of Fear I thought was more tense. Sorcerer was more atmospheric.
The oil lake scene in Wages of Fear was properly shocking.
Is there any film like this? Got around to watching it last year and it's a masterpiece
>Is there any film like this?
Yeah, Sorcerer (1977).
IIRC he told her about the crucifix scene and was surprised she knew what jerking off was.
Yes! That's exactly right. Good memory, dude.
Both
yes
Both are absolutely worth it
One of my all time favourite kino maestros. The Exorcist is my favourite movie. Sad to see him go. Killer Joe is a perfect swan song though.
F erino
>Blatty remembered William Friedkin, whom he had met some years earlier when the director had called a TV script of his “the worst piece of shit I ever read in my life.” Blatty laughed, thinking, This guys got balls.
>Since then Friedkin had developed a reputation. As one producer put it, “Billy was a tough critter. He didn’t give a frick about anybody else that walked the face of the earth. He was a guy, you’d known him for thirty years, saved his ass by putting together the deal, he’d turn to you and say, ‘Get off the set.’”
>Blatty didn’t know anything about this, just recalled that Friedkin was somehow unfettered by the usual Hollywood inhibitions, and willingly jeopardizing his chances to direct by speaking his mind. I can trust him, he thought. He also recalled that Friedkin was known for his documentaries. “Someone who could give the film a sense of reality was what the fantasy absolutely needed,” he says.
From Easy Riders Raging Bulls
Eat a tide pod, little shit
>he fell for the lamestream media psyop
ok boomer
He had a good life with great diverse films.
Al Pacino playing the gay cop was great
his movies have a lot of homoerotic undertones
>t. straight
Has anyone checked in on him yet?
Frick him I hope he goes down with his idol
Who?
Perhaps my favorite audio memoir.
The way he speaks is so funny.
RIP
That's nice and all, BUT WHERE WAS HIS STICKY?!?
FRICKING HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FFFFFFFFFFFF
F
F
F
F
Go watch Sorcerer now!!!
F. To this day the GOATed horror movie, although the Haunting come close.
literally who
He’s got a new movie coming out next month https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_Court-Martial_(2023_film)
this is going to be an even more cursed film than the exorcist, it's already killed lance reddick and now friedkin himself
>this is going to be an even more based film than the exorcist
ftfy
>I'll kill it
lmao, raconteur til the end
I will convince myself this is just a marketing stunt to promote The Exorcist 4K UHD coming out next month.
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>this gave boomers heart attacks and made them vomit and soak their trousers with pee pee
>this made millennials pee pee and poo poo and question their sanity and start their first online autistic fart sniffing contest about "BRO, HOW DO YOU ESCAPE LE CURSE?" right in the theater on the first generation iPhone their Boomer parents bought them
Captain Howdy subliminal still spook me brother.
Please spoiler that. J/k it is scary as frick though.
He made Siskel and Evert seethe. RIPIP
Hack frauds.
Cruising is still one of the greatest pleb filters of all time
Why do jannies keep making sticky's for dead israelites?
RIP
Cinemaphile Here
Rest in Peace Legend.
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>...in the politically correct society in which we live, you can't make a film that justifies the Klan... in The Restoration period, there was a lot of black crime, and the rise of the Ku Klux Klan- these guys wearing white caps and sheets- came about because there was a lot of rapes and pillaging being done by the newly freed slaves"
always kek'd that he decided to go on that tangent talking about Birth of a Nation, guy didn't give a frick. RIP
Digits confirm.
To Live and Die in L.A. is a fricking masterpiece
RIP billy
Do you think kys'd himself when Barbie made 1 Billion?
>four tickets to Barbie, please
>Sticky for a literal who
Zoomer: the post
>Fishing for a literal (You)
here's the attention you crave homosexual
>get butthurt
>still give him what he wants
buck status: broken
Sneed
F
Was he shitposting with "The Devil and Father Amorth"?
WHERE IS THE FRICKING YOU FRICKING PIECE OF SHIT MODS???????!!!!!!!
>WHERE IS THE FRICKING
nowhere near you, that's for sure
damn, F
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
An actual GOAT.
frick...
this one hits hard. the exorcist is probably my favourite movie of all time; a true masterpiece. i really dug to live and die in la too.
Overrated, the exorcist wasn't even scary
>I wonder why I live alone here
>I wonder why we spend these nights together
>Is this the room I'll live my life forever
RIP King.
> King
no, that's the other horror guy
Were where you when William Friedkin died ? I was eating pizza and burgers in the Kinoplex while watching Barbie.
>Director of the Exorcist
i like the fact that you wrote that to save me a couple of seconds i was going to spend googling about that LITERALY WHO
cheers
Make the damn druk thread already
instead you spent that time making this dumbass post
But wait, there's more, he also directed... hmff... pfft... the french connection.. and.. pffffft... sorcerer... HAHAHAHAHAHA TRULY ONE OF THE GREATS KEK
WHAT A LITERAL FRICKING WHO
If dubs you will suffer a loss this month
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I hope it hurts.
You ded
>friedkin died knowing that a barbie movie was the biggest movie in the world at the time
Kinda a replay of his experience when he learnt that Star Wars was the biggest movie in the world.
Friedkin ofc. The other homosexual hasn't made a good film. I know you fricking autist virgins love Drive but the truth is it's a shit movie
Pusher 2 is kino
Pusher trilogy and Too Old To Die Young are absolute kino.
Nice
totdy and copenhagen cowboy
I agree with Friedkin in calling out Refn claiming "Only God Forgives" is a masterpiece, but what I don't agree with is this idea that only masterpieces are remembered. Some of the worst, most god awful pieces of shit get remembered, like Troll 2.
Overall, the importance of a piece of media is partly dependent upon the longevity for which it is remembered, but also upon the immediate influence it has in the now, but even still, also upon those who view it.
There are a lot of niche, some would say "garbage" films from the 70's that inspired Tarantino. Without those films we likely wouldn't have Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill or Reservoir Dogs or Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
Some mediocre or merely decent things get remembered for other reasons as well, and that often grants them a false reputation from low info people who only know of them from being mentioned a lot so they just assume they're among the greats.
Personally, I'm not on the side of purging "lesser" media. It feels very elitist, especially since it's the silver-spoon fed nepotism babies in the media now that make up the "elites" and decide which media gets remembered and which media doesn't.
The world needs more shit like Starcrash, or Barbarella, or Death Race 2000.
I feel like you actually learn more about how to make a good movie if you watch really bad films and just do some good ideas of them differently or do the complete opposite.
"Manos the Hands of Fate" for example has a actual great premise for a horror film which you could built upon, it's just painfully bad to sit through and the only film I agree with Normalgays of deserving the title "the worst film ever made", since it isn't entertainingly bad, it is just painfully boring torture.
I was thinking more of films that are remembered for a trivia type reason, but are thus mentioned so much that people who haven't seen them start listing them alongside "the greats", rather than schlock films.
Troll 2 isn't known simply for being an awful piece of shit, its remembered because a certain dream logic and quixotic charm formed by its own volition separate of the Italian filmmaker and cast. Troll 2 unlike The Room deserves to be remembered as the sincere godfather of the spoilt "disasterpieces" that defined 2010s post-modernism. Something tells me Friedkin would agree.
I've said this before but I unironically believe Troll 2 is competently made in certain parts. They were genuinely trying, just turned out the movie was just crap.
The "funny" exploitation films tend to be at their best when they were genuinely made and they just unintentionally failed for whatever reasons. The ironic let's make it bad on purpose Sharknado trash type of thing is soulless to the core
That's usually true, but that's due to incompetency. That kinda thing can be made masterfully, case in point Frank Henenlotter.
conversely, masterpieces get forgotten or never get the respect they merit, too. This is true in every artistic medium
the object lesson I usually point to about how merit isn't much of a consideration is this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_(Bernini)
>After being "lost" for over one hundred years, Corpus surfaced in Venice in 1908. Later it fell into private hands in the United States, but by that time it was misidentified as a work from the school of Giambologna. At an auction in 1975, it failed to sell for the very low price of $200. It was not until 2002 that it was recognized as a Bernini. And it took until 2005 for the provenance to be definitely and directly linked to Bernini...Corpus is said to be worth $50 million in the current art market.
goes to show just how much value is attached not to the thing in itself, but to fame, to social factors, to the stories other people tell about it, to intangibles.
I'm glad I was able to get some more discussion of Friedkin and his movies going here over the last year or so. This old post by me is worth dredging up:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/183571206/#q183573273
I think it's called the veil of time or something like, when we only remember the good things and forget the bad, but even then all the good doesn't end up getting remembered and just fades away. That or survivorship bias.
>Linking to an archive of your own tl;dr post
Sorcerer is probably recommended 100x in the thread, so please go watch it in honor of WF
that movie gay sounds like some nerd magic shit
The master has spoken
only god forgives is a masterpiece
No Refn, it isn't
Not refn but I like it
a masterpiece, by definition, is an artists greatest work.
Refn can think its his best but he'd be wrong
>a masterpiece, by definition, is an artists greatest work
You mean a magnum opus
not him
>"a work or performance of a master, a piece of work of surpassing excellence," c. 1600, from master (n.) + piece (n.1). A loan-translation of Dutch meesterstuk "work by which a craftsman attains the rank of master" (or its German cognate Meisterstück).
RIP
F
when you have to explain who someone is they shouldn't get a sticky.
>but what about the ignorant zoomies & millennials
Exactly.
>white ghoul behind-the-camera gets a fricking sticky
>Euphoria actor snubbed
If you have to be referred to as "euphoria actor" you probably haven't earned a sticky.
Noone cares you zoomer queer
homosexual
Jay Bauman on suicide watch
Literal who? We going to start having stickies for background actors now?
Pazuzu is your background actor. Word is he'd make a good lead.
F
Rest in peace.
His best film
>the truck kept tipping into the water so they kept having to do additional takes
What a crazy shoot this must have been
it's worth picking up his autobiography for the section on Sorcerer. just squandering absurd amounts of money, crew members contracting tropical diseases, Friedkin in pure self-destructive delusions of grandeur mode
Sounds like Fitzcarraldo, which was a fricking struggle even putting wrangling Klaus Kinski aside (Herzog's hauling of the boat was actually MORE difficult than the event he was adapting where it was disassembled during transport).
Or fricking Apocalypse Now where a crowd of people went off to the jungle and went crazy for a couple of years and later a movie appeared.
Fricking insane.
WHO
among the later career underdog picks we've got some The Hunted posters, a few Bug fans, and a surprising Rules of Engagement mention. question is - where are the BLUE CHIPS homies?
wtf, blue chips is friedkin kino?
oh shit, missed that one. based and bluepilled (in a good way)
definitely a similar sort of scenario, although I'd say Herzog outdoes Friedkin for sheer insanity
Already here my dude
F for Penny
Billy loved his basketball. He almost bought the Celtics once.
Damm, I've only watched The Exorcist and Sorcerer (this one is one of my favorite movies of all time).
Such a shame.
This movie has some of the most beautiful looking fire I've ever seen
F
>the synths syncing up with the lights
so good
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The great ones are all leaving us bros, I'm not gonna be ready for Herzog and Lynch.
>Paul Bateson, who appeared as a doctor’s assistant in The Exorcist, was later implicated in the New York ‘Bag Murders’, which was dramatized in William Friedkin's Cruising.
spoopy af
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bateson
You're beautiful.
RIP
frick, he had the remake of The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial coming up for venice wtf
RIP
It won't top Altman's version.
Disappointing choice.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the-caine-mutiny-courtmartial
>not even 1000 replies
Cinemaphile is so fricking dead
Cinemaphile has never given a damn about kino
if Cinemaphile is dead then we are partying with willy tonite. and forever. oh, that's right, he didn't believe in heaven. or hell. sad.
>I was raised in the israeli faith. I was Bar Mitzvahed. To be honest, I never felt close to the ritual in the israeli faith. But I did to the ritual in the Christian, in the Catholic faith. Jesus was a israelite, he was bom, he lived and died as a israelite. He was not a Catholic. I did and still do feel close to it and I believe in the teachings of Jesus, I believed in teachings of Jesus when I made the film and I do to this day. It’s the miracle of faith. Like anyone who believes, I can’t give you solid evidence. I just have my belief.
>And today, do you consider yourself either israeli or Christian?
>I don’t have any arguments against any faith, really. I personally believe in the teachings of Jesus more than anything, and I have read a lot of things that go against the teachings of Jesus.
F. one of the best ever. the exorcist tc is one of the very best films ever. i lost some respect for friedkin that he tinkered with it so much. theatrical is the king
He did it as a favor to Blatty.
He's no Lucas but post-release tinkering (like the gunshot in Sorcerer) always annoys me
>He's no Lucas but post-release tinkering
He added a lot of dumb shit to the Exorcist director's cut and changed the color grading in the French Connection to make it look worse.
>gunshot in Sorcerer
That one was weird, the gunshot is so low in the mix that it almost sounds like a recording artifact from the score.
i had to buy an original 1998 dvd from germany to watch the theatrical
dont forget CRUISING RIP
no but seriously tho what was his beef with dunkaccino? https://youtu.be/V9VaLXr71LA
>The French Connection
>The Exorcist
>Sorcerer
>Cruising
>To Live and Die in L.A.
thanks for the kino.
RIP
Sorcerer is one of my all time favourites
My favorite film director, rip
>Cinemaphile is so fricking pleb that OP felt the need to put "Director of the Exorcist" because he thought the average poster might not know who William Friedkin was
I was watching an interview with Freidken last week and ironically I think he said he was okay with being remembered as The Exorcist director. Most people aren't remembered for anything, especially not making good movies.
You underestimate the amount of zoomers here, I think they are unironically the biggest userbase now
noooo not William Friedkin: Director of the Exorcist!!!
Wait.... who?
Trying way to hard my man.
It always hurts when people pass away that are still totally there. I'm mentally prepared when it's somebody who faded away a long time ago but Friendkin was still totally lucid and doing interviews just months ago. It's the better alternative but it always sucks when it still feels like they have stuff to give.
I know that feel
and Friedkin's honesty and laudable attitude towards filmmaking and the audience will be missed
>when I die, they're not going to say "The guy who directed the Sonny & Cher movie just died"
>Which I did, by the way
Friedfriends.....
damn, he still has some spark in him, even though he looks completely depleted healthwise
How could anyone forget his finest work?
I wonder if he ever got to see the Pope’s Exorcist
How do some directors fall so hard from grace? From exorcist and the french connection to making bug and shit.
Killer Joe was great THOUGH
it's just so amazing to me, that one moment you have it and putting out kino after kino that make millions and oscars and stuff, and the next day poof you're making garbage no one wants to see like the guardian
Hollywood has only cared about one thing: MONEY. French Connection won Oscars. Exorcist was the highest grossing movie EVER when it came out. Then he made Sorcerer and Cruising and they dumped him in the garbage.
This. Friedkin was from the tribe but they dropped him like a fly from the milk. Same happened to Cronenberg.
cocaine is just so amazing
Expecting artists to make masterpieces every time without fail is unrealistic.
>Filtered by Killer Joe
You're a homosexual
I liked Bug
i'm responsible for this....
last night i googled who made Cruising because i know it was an acclaimed director
you give this rando a sticky but not John Mahoney?
His films be dammed, I will never not like Lucas because he helped fund Kagemusha.
>Hurr Durr muh Citizen Kane cringe
despite that Friedkin is still based though.
>citizen Kane bad mobie cuz its famous
Grow up
it's been an irreverent movie for a long time now, it's no longer applicably to our time and modern film making, give it a rest.
Your favourite zoomer director wouldn't exist without some director who wouldn't exist without Orson Welles (who wouldn't exist with John Ford)
F
RIP
He was my favorite director, really wish I got to meet him and just shoot the shit about movies for a few hours.
RIP
He said people wrote him telling him how much they liked his movies. You could have done that. I could have too.
Maybe I should send Spielberg a nice handwritten letter thanking him for Jurassic Park and all the joy it’s given me since I was a kid, he’s getting up there too and I really do love that film to death.
Frick man I miss Friedkin already.
No way spielberg reads manchild fan letters
Spielberg sternly asks that $100 donations be made to remaining survivors of The Great Sad Genocide in lieu of fanmail. For only $25 a day you can adopt a survivor and Spielberg will call they/them on religious holidays
I'm going to send James Cmaeron a letter telling him I think Piranha 2 is an underrated classic and also can I borrow $5000. And I fully expect to receive a handwritten reply saying "Go frick yourself signed Jim Cameron".
Tell him to release True Lies and The Abyss on blu ray already
I think you would also receive a handwritten reply saying "Go frick yourself signed Jim Cameron".
I would treasure it.
and maybe a signed photo of 5000 dollars in cash on a table
I mean if you're gonna do it, why not ask him for a cool mil. not borrow, straight up give it to me, he has enough
You should send him a letter bomb for ruining cinema and being a pedo.
He only accepted letters in Yiddish. I too looked into it.
Do anons know where he'll be buried? Will he have a small pazazu gargoyle on his stone? I'm aware he'll be cremated first, a tradition I learned of when researching the fan letters protocol.
Rip
Rip Torn already died
Who?
RIP
WGAF. This guy doesnt deserve a sticky.
>WGAF = we give a frick
I know we do
RIP my nig
F
Frick you mods if this gets unstickied in less than four days.
Another legend gone. Hollywood is fricking dead.
>Friedkin made a movie with James Gandolfini
Oh shit I’m gonna have to check this out, how is it?
RIP Billy. America's greatest director.
Calling your own movie a masterpiece is pretty tasteless, and the fact that it's a turd nobody understands (because it's a turd) makes it doubly so.
RIP true kinoserver
goodnight sweet prince
lmao holy shit, I never thought I would hear Friedkin use the phrase "pimple on the butthole of humanity" and I had no idea how fricking autistic Refn is.
sorcerer
cruising
to live and die in la
rip
These are hands down my favorite movie soundtracks ever, amazing how much texture and suspense they add to each film.
Friedkin clearly had a good ear for shit; other things that come to mind are all the weird layers of dog barking, lions growling etc. to the louder scenes in Exorcist and that scene in Sorcerer where the guy falls into the water and all the audio immediately cuts out from his point of view.
Robbie Muller is based as frick. Top 5 cinematographer.
>Robbie Muller is based as frick. Top 5 cinematographer.
Owen Roizman is the other one (shot The Exorcist and The French Connection).
Gordon Willis too, and like two or three Hungarian guys
my obscure film waifu
>died from early onset alzheimers
i could've saved her
seething boomers
F but where the frick is the sticky for Mark Margolis?
Never heard of him but barely 700 posts on a sticky tells me everything i need to know, Cinemaphile is dead
I haven’t seen any of his movies yet, but I’ve watched hours of him talking on YouTube. What a smart, hilarious guy, and a great storyteller. RIP
Why is everyone dying?
Living is pointless
you're next
oh shit is everyone i like going to die eventually?
F
The French Connection and the Exorcist are masterpieces, and the latter is still the greatest horror movie of all time. RIP.
Frick it, just rewatched some of the French connection scenes yesterday with a big smile on my face.
F and RIP.
F
it's over
Watch Killer Joe, it's underrated white trash kino.
It still amazes me that a high quality upload of To Live and Die in LA is still on YouTube. You have no excuse if you haven't watched this top tier kino yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bseFRIXfRWM
You ruined it anaon.
*anon, and I'm sure you didn't ruin anything. Like I said I'm boozed up ignore this ignorant post. Rip Billy once again. Sorry for being a real jerk.
Never saw The Exorcist but I do like this song that is somewhat inspired by it.
I saw the Exorcist in 2000 at the theater in Victorville California. All the nogs and beaners ruined with their laughing and antics. Watching it again tonight boozed up. RIP Billy
Rip in peace, you crazy old bastard
Probably a good thing. It looks terrible.
The Trailer probably killed him.
RIP
>The French Connection
>The Exorcist
>Sorcerer
>To Live and Die in L.A.
>Cult favorites like Bug and Cruising
He has 4 great canonized movies and several other minor hits. Most directors hardly even have 1 truly great film. F to a legend.
Filmmaking is incredibly difficult. Anons take it for granted because they haven't created anything. It's hard to make a good movie let alone a great one.
*farts*
DON'T TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED I CREATED IT YOU LITTLE SHIT
>good morning, sir
>*BRAAAP*
>good morning to you *BRAAAP* too, sir
There was an anon earlier this year that made an interesting thread about how The French Connection won a shitload of Oscars even though it was basically just the 1970s equivalent of capeshit. It’s an action movie about cops and robbers. And it’s absolute fricking kino. 50 years ago even the genre films made for entertainment were excellent. The craftsmanship and intelligence they had is incomparable to today’s mainstream movies.
French Connection was pretty damn groundbreaking and influential, maybe not to the same extent as The Exorcist but my dad saw it in cinemas and said the car chase scene was mindblowing.
>it was basically just the 1970s equivalent of capeshit
except they didn't make the whole thing in a fricking computer
the action in that movie has weight because it's real and they did it with no permits
star wars is 70s capeshit
Starwars practical effects are masterpiece and genius works of art.
Something you'll never fricking accomplish in your pathetic miserable life.
onions wars is capeshit you overgrown Black person manchild
go suck walt disney's dick
>CGI is practical effects
No. Go have a nice day talentless worthless hack.
>durr i can't read
shut up you dumb c**t
>it was basically just the 1970s equivalent of capeshit
Criminal investigations of heroin smuggling rings are a real thing, homosexuals flying around in their long underwear shooting beams out of their eyes are not
FRICK CAPESHIT
Rest in peace Billy
Rip, he was such a based prick
such an underrated movie
It's an unfinished film, and because of that the ending doesn't properly work, also Pacino couldn't understand his role.
I like the film, but understand why it doesn't get as much recognition.
How soon until the entertainment industry is so large and old we get , celebrity deaths 365 days a year?
fun fact: everybody dies every day
>fun fact: everybody dies
But not everybody lives.
Right anon thats the point but as the population blooms to massive scales eventually we'll reach 1 gigantic streamer/influencer eceleb and 1 Hollywood celebs death a day, maybe 1 elite athletes death a day and it'll eventually cover the full 365 days a year of important well beloved figures dying daily in the media being news story.
A full official dedicated obituary channel for important entertainers. Wonder what the population numbers wed need to reach for that.
Most boomers are gonna die this decade. The post-war generations that shaped the current world will be dead soon. And we are not prepared for inheriting their world.
Good. Boomers had everything handed to them and silver spoons and then ruined it for the rest of the world so they could give everything to their moronic mouth breathing progeny they were too rich and famous to actually raise into people.
Now their greedy trust fund babies penny pinch every dollar giving nothing back to society expecting us to be slaves for them while thinking they're some superior race made of master genetics because their daddy got lucky and ended up rich.
About time they all get purged and eaten by the masses in Minecraft.
F
Frick him and frick the jannies.
Where is the Pee Wee sticky?
Try and ban me you gay troony.
I just watched 12 angry men last night, huh weird coincidence
To honour William Friedkin's memory I think we should all click this image i've posted 🙂
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Frick dude the scary maze game is such a piece of 2000s nostalgia. I wonder how many kids these days know this image more than the movie?
I got trolled by my brother and screamed the shit out of my ass when this pic popped off
She cute
NO
NOOOOOOO NO NO NO NO NO FRICK FRICK FRICK
RIP to an absolute legend, I'm legitimately crushed.
WATCH SORCEROR
WATCH THE FRENCH CONNECTION
WATCH KILLER JOE
RIP
>New Exorcist movie soon to be released
>Original director dies
Weird
It would be weird if he was young but Friedkin was 106 years old
>Sorcerer
>Nitroglycerin kino
I knew a guy who had his left hand blown off by a bottle of nitroglycerine. He picked it up, and, boom. That's what he told me at least. He also said that he didn't have it in an ice bath, which you're supposed to do apparently.
Family rip right before the new one. Made one of the most iconic scariest movies of all time
‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ is mostly watched by film students who have been told to watch it,
Or people who look up lists of “The Greatest Films” and who just go down the list.
While this technique for viewing choice isn’t necessarily bad, it would tend to steer film viewers to certain specific films, making those films more likely to get watched.
A person who searches out films for some other reason, like the Director, or writer, or certain actors, or weirder things like production designer or costumer is likely to find films that are just as good, but which don’t get watched as much because the films aren’t on the meme lists.
As far as I’m aware, ‘Running Scared’ rarely if ever winds up on these “best of” lists, but is excellent in numerous ways.
The same goes for a number of other films.
‘The Dark Corner’ starring Lucille Ball was almost forgotten, but is now considered a classic.
>‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ is mostly watched by film students who have been told to watch it
I saw it on a whim in 70mm because I wanted to see it. What are you talking about?
Yeah I started watching film from IMDb's Top 250 when I was in my teens, it was an ok starting point.
I just watched it because I like sci-fi, what an odd thing to say
>>‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ is mostly watched by film students who have been told to watch it,
>Or people who look up lists of “The Greatest Films” and who just go down the list.
That doesn't make it not an incredible film.
It's the other way around, you dingus. 2001 is not considered a great film because it's taught in film schools. It's taught in film schools because it's considered a great film.
HE DIDN'T FRY SO GOOD
For me, it’s Jade
Total Black person death
F. The Exorcist is one of the GOAT’s. His direction largely made it what it was. Was hoping to hear him talk shit about the new Exorcist movies.
F
Refn was just being funny.
Freidkin dropping Citizen Cane and 2001 is cringe.
refn was 100% serious you sperg
Nah he was baiting. He wanted a funny exchange.
literally who?
Who?
What is some other essential Friedkin gay kino?
why did he make so many gay movies? also how gay is cruising I haven't seen it before
Well he was part yid, so maybe he thought he was being subversive.
>also how gay is cruising I haven't seen it before
Very, but it's so over the top with its leather bar aesthetic it's almost parodic (even though many extras were pre-AIDS era gays).
thanks fren
Damn, the Verdict and 12 angry men were some of my favorite films RIP to one of the greats
I just watched 12 angry men last night I was watching it as he passed so fricking weird
That's Sidney Lumet, idiots.
He did a tv movie version
No the 97 version dumb dumb it has George C Scott and James Gandolfini among others
Wow I didn't realize The Verdict was also remade by William Friedkin in the 1990's.
Huh? I was talking about 12 angry men never seen the verdict
Actually it was in the 2000s but not by friedkin
Same. I literally just bought the bluray of Exorcist within the last couple of days, and I'm in the middle of listening to the Christopher Lee version of the audiobook.
Sorcerer killed off the new hollywood, alongside with heaven's gate and apocalypse now
He was just shitposting, find the entire interview. He also shits all over Al pacino.
The real reason for Sorcerer's failure is the pessimistic ending, after jaws and star wars people just decided they didn't want unhappy 70s endings anymore. Good movies without happy endings would keep bombing for a while, see the thing, blow out, robocop etc
People don't usually know the ending before they buy the ticket.
>tfw Sorcerer came out the same week as Star Wars in 1977
>tfw there’s an alternate universe where Sorcerer was the huge box office hit everyone remembered instead
Jaws and Star Wars changed everything for the worse. If I had a time machine I'd genuinely consider doing something to young Lucas and Spielberg.
Jaws is kino. Starwars dogshit is what lead to modern bloackbusters.
Jaws is what invented the blockbuster already before Star Wars. Look up how it was marketed and released. Star Wars utilized the same strategy (and actually before first weekend they thought it would flop).
Yes but it was also a real movie. Star Wars isn't.
>Star Wars isn't.
Why?
see
That post is stupid. Star Wars is a great space adventure film. You can hate what it became or what it generated but acting like the first one isn't a great movie experience is beyond moronic.
>Ask a question
>Receive an answer
>"But I don't like that answer"
I also like how you added a qualifier to great movie and described it as a great movie "experience" because even you know deep down that it's just a theme park ride meant to sell plastic to children
It's not just that I don't like the answer, it's that the answer is stupid. Suggesting "Star Wars is a not a movie" because you don't like how successful it became doesn't nullify it as a movie.
>described it as a great movie "experience" because even you know deep down that it's just a theme park ride meant to sell plastic to children
It's just a great movie, plain and simple. I added experience because it was so unlike anything else at the time. And that last line is bullshit, he just wanted to make a space opera at the time. The marketing shit is incidental simply because kids wanted toys from Star Wars and Fox inexplicably gave Lucas merchandising and licensing rights because they expected the movie to flop.
Your issue with Star Wars isn't as a movie at all, it's simply that it was so successful and that corporate types capitalised on that success.
No, it's that you don't like the answer. You're not a fan of my opinion. Got it. Not sure why this conversation needs to continue.
>Suggesting "Star Wars is a not a movie" because you don't like how successful it became doesn't nullify it as a movie
Which wasn't my argument at all. I'm starting to suspect that maybe you might be stupid.
>Your issue with Star Wars isn't as a movie at all
Yes it is. It would still not be very good even if it hadn't been successful.
>it's simply that it was so successful and that corporate types capitalised on that success.
That made it worse, sure. Not all bad films have giant sweeping and cumulative negative effects on the entire industry, and not all of them get defended by legions of idiots who confuse being dazzled by shiny things with being "captivated by the magic of cinema".
>Not sure why this conversation needs to continue.
It doesn't. You're an ignorant homosexual and replying to you is a waste of time.
It isn't a bad movie by itself at all really. It's just that it turned Hollywood back towards nostalgia and simplistic good vs bad narratives, and it invented what's called "high concept", where movies are made with the intention of planned sequels, other media tie-ins like toys/video games/tv series etc, basically profits from all demographics above everything else and everything that's wrong with modern Hollywood. But the new wave/New Hollywood was never really going to last anyways, the fact it went for a whole decade is impressive in and of itself
But Hollywood made good vs bad movies, then stopped because people got tired of them and wanted more dark and pessimistic movies in the 70s, then went back to good vs evil again. But yeah New Hollywood was impressive and even with the shit going on in Hollywood now I doubt it will ever happen again.
It had a whole lot to do with Vietnam, Watergate, Manson, the various political assassinations and all the other bad shit that went on in the 60s/70s. Movies were just addressing all that directly (the deer hunter, all the president's men, parallax view, apocalypse now) or metaphorically (chinatown, the conversation, long goodbye, easy rider, bonnie and clyde etc). By the 80s and Reagan people just decided they had enough of the bad shit and would rather have escapism than dealing with it anymore
>it's just a theme park ride
If Star Wars is a theme-park ride then so are the Exorcist and Psycho.
They are just better made ones
oh shut up you homosexual
No
This. Jaws is a genuinely great movie. It spends a good portion of the running time just developing its principle characters and allowing us to get to know them.
Star Wars on the other hand is confectionery cinema, it is the movie that taught execs that all you had to do was plug in likeable elements and hang them around an easily digestible, practically nonexistent story. It's arguably THE movie that made it okay to just lean on archetypes rather than using them as a starting point like you're supposed to, and it's basically the reason why the world was consumed by pop culture and still is to this day.
Somebody else would've done it instead if not them. Godfather, Exorcist and especially Rocky were already proto blockbusters, even if on a higher level of quality
I think the one thing Star Wars had over Sorcerer was that it was kid friendly. Dunno who's parents would sit their kid down to watch a movie like Sorcerer.
And just imagine what cinema would be like today in that universe. All of this amusement park cinema would be basically nonexistent. Movies like this one and Jaws would have set the standard rather than Star Wars and it would still be a given that even a blockbuster movie still also has to count as a real movie.
People like to blame Jaws and Star Wars for creating the blockbuster era but forget that The Godfather and The Exorcist were massive hits that got Wall Streets attention which is why they started taking over the studios. All Jaws and Star Wars did was accelerate it by making movies aimed at teens and were simple which is why the studios favored them because they didn't want to deal with people like Friedkin, Coppola etc... whose movies were made for adults that also didn't lend themselves to merchandising!!!FACT!!!
The Godfather and The Exorcist are both masterpieces, anon. I think we'd be better off if the studios were still under the impression that a movie has to be good in order to make money, regardless of how you market it.
Star Wars is also a masterpiece that broke new ground in cinema in its storytelling and its technical innovations.
But it also led to the ruin of Hollywood by what it started. I have very conflicted feelings about the movie because of that. But the revisionism of treating Lucas as a lucky bumbling moron is one of the most moronic takes most people spout these days.
You can't tell me one time when Hollywood learned the right lesson from box office success. They always learn the wrong lesson, every time.
Star Wars is an extremely impressive marketing device.
It only broke new ground with its storytelling because it set a new precedent for laziness, simplicity and shamelessly prioritizing mass appeal above anything else. "Just plug in the things people want to see and don't challenge them in any way and they'll all flock to it, so who cares about integrity or the preservation of art?"
As for its technical innovations, yeah sure, but those are feats of engineering, not artistry. A rube goldberg device is extremely impressive but it's not a movie.
>It only broke new ground
IT BROKE NEW GROOOUND
>because it set a new precedent for laziness
because it's simplistic? how does that make any sense?
>As for its technical innovations, yeah sure, but those are feats of engineering, not artistry.
absolute cringe take
>because it's simplistic? how does that make any sense?
Because simple things require less effort than complex things, you see. A child's drawing of some clouds is not as hard to make as a Rembrandt painting, which is why we stop and take notice of a Rembrandt.
>absolute cringe take
counter argument not found
>*spouts pseudointellectual pablum yet the only artist he can name is Rembrandt for a poorly thought out analogy*
Holy hell are you an embarrassing midwit
>pseudo-intellectual
yes, the rallying cry of "your opinion makes me mad because muh childhood but I don't have any actual criticisms so I must fling poo"
I used a simplistic analogy because it was intended for a simplistic person.
Lucas isn't a bumbling moron, but Star Wars was a group effort, yet he got all the praise, even though some of the sidelined people's greatest contribution was stopping George for going full moron. Just read his first few scripts before the Fox producers made him change the story.
>Star Wars was a group effort, yet he got all the praise
you have no idea what a director does
you would have no idea who the editor for the exorcist is without looking it up
>you have no idea what a director does
I do.
>you would have no idea who the editor for the exorcist is without looking it up
And?
You're not very good at logic, aren't you?
>I do.
doubt.mp4
There is a difference between what a director's job is, which is to put all the right people in all the right positions and oversee their work/wrangle them in the pursuit of the best possible film, and what Lucas did, which was constantly make giant project derailing mistakes that other more talented people had to fix for him.
>what Lucas did, which was constantly make giant project derailing mistakes that other more talented people had to fix for him.
such as?
At this point you might as well link the RLM prequel videos because I know you're going to quote them verbatim and you have no original thoughts of your own
Not him, but I like how you totally ignored my post about Lucas' scripts being shit before the Fox producers barged in. And do we even get into the horrible version that had to get cut the hell and back, because the Death Star trench run took 45 fricking hours? How about the fact that Lucas couldn't direct actors for shit and Harrison Ford gave Mark Hamill more tips than George ever did?
>muh editing
Goodfellas was a complete mess until it got “saved” in the editing room, idk why fat manchild film experts don’t understand the process.
Also, stop turning Friedkin’s sticky into another one of your RLM gay fests.
>conversation about Star Wars being a group effort
>well, you see, I.. uhh... umm... look, I'll just ignore that thing about script and directing actors. oh, and about bad editing, yeah, but... uh... Godfellas! haha, gotcha, chud!
Oh wow.
As I said, stop turning the Friedkin sticky into another excuse to make the same tired regurgitated RLM arguments about Star Wars for the trillionth time
>moron sperging about George Lucas for dozens posts, attacking everyone who disagrees
>A-A-AKHTSUALLY... YOU SHOULD STOP RESPONDING TO ME BECAUSE STICKY! WHAT? MY POSTS? NO, THEY'RE NOT A PROBLEM. JUST EVERYONE ELSE'S!
damn dude, why are you so mad?
Because STAR WARS FRICKING SUCKS AND GEORGE LUCAS FRICKING SUCKS
>posting about feelings
Oh, sorry. I didn't know you're a woman.
please stop sucking wieners anon
I never did that and never will. Why are you so obsessed with wieners?
They’re so plump and juicy
>can't think of a reply
>tell the other person to stop talking and act like you're above it all as if you didn't spend the last 10 posts mired in an argument
Classic
One person whining like a b***h at thin air isn't an argument
>I MUST TELL EVERYONE RLM’S OPINIONS ABOUT STAR WARS AGAIN
you guys lost your minds over those dumbass flicks
You're the only one obsessing about RLM, homosexual. All because one Anon said SW was a team effort and you got triggered.
Frick off back to
. You'll get more upvotes there
So anyway, Star Wars was a team effort. It's nice you agree with me.
I accept your concession.
Very ironic thing to say, considering all lucasgays are redditors
No u
The only person who lost their mind is you. You're obsessed with youtube videos from over a decade ago.
>Goodfellas was a complete mess until it got “saved” in the editing room
More to the point point, movies aren't "saved" in editing, they're made in editing. Every movie ever made has been edited. If a movie is poorly written and directed, you can't "save" it with editing, no matter how hard you try. That's fricking moronic. If Billy was still alive he'd call anyone who thinks that way a moron too.
Everyone in this thread should read Peter Biskind's Easy Rider Raging Bulls if you want to know what really happened with 70's cinema!!!FACT!!!
>The Godfather and The Exorcist are both masterpieces, anon. I think we'd be better off if the studios were still under the impression that a movie has to be good in order to make money, regardless of how you market it.
I agree but the customer is always right and it was Coppola, Scorsese, Friedkinetc... being self indulgent that brought the era to an end. Godfather and The Exorcist are masterpieces because they're entertaining and well made. If they could have kept up that level of quality there's no reason movies at that level couldn't have been made but they didn't with bad scripts, making shit up as they went along and shooting enough footage that they thought they could use to fix it in editing causing budgets to escalate beyond control, no different than what we've been seeing with movies today.
I really wish more movies for adults could have continued to be made but the market spoke and the studios just followed the money!!!FACT!!!
>If they could have kept up that level of quality there's no reason movies at that level couldn't have been made
Those two movies make up less than 1% of the movies that came out back then. Movies on that level STILL don't exist in large numbers. It was never sustainable because Hollywood puts out mostly forgettable shit and always has.
For me it's The Night They Raided Minsky's!!!FACT!!!
He made movies with bigger budgets than Sorcerer after Sorcerer came out, even accounting inflation some of them were much more expensive than Sorcerer was.
The hunted with tommy lee jones has my favourite knife in any movie. Fricking great.
Is there a single box office failure in the history of cinema that you would say failed for reasons that don't have to do with israelites?
Blade Runner?
Blade Runner's theatrical cut had the voice over and editing ruined by studio execs.
But plenty of movies have bombed because of bad directors/other factors also, it is not always the studio's fault (though very often it is). Also people tend to put all the success and all the failures of a movie to the director's shoulders, which is pretty flawed thinking.
>“Take all of the responsibility, because you’re going to get all of the blame”
- David Fincher
This is one of the good things about 70s cinema, they weren't afraid of putting flawed people into sympathetic protagonist roles. The cops in French Connection and 48 Hours are openly racist, Nicholson's character in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is a convicted pedophile etc
Vax status?
homie was 87. Does it even matter?
The protags in Sorcerer are total buttholes and not sympathetic but compelling anyways. Main characters don't need to be likable to be good.
The exorcist is scary because ppl know possession is real.
Possession isn't real. It's scary because it's extremely well made.
Rest in peace
Glad to see Cinemaphile mourning together. We are healing.
Legendary director but he made a lot of shitty movies
Almost all great directors have made more mediocre or bad movies than really great ones. Friedkin imo made 3 classics and then 2-3 really solid movies. That is lots more than othre directors.
Whoa, a coincidence I rented pic related (NC-17 version) via interlibrary loan in lieu of R rated cut to watch last weekend.
Well directed but the last 15 minutes was uncomfortably bizarre and tense. "Chicken leg" yuck.
coppola, scorsese, spielberg, i'm sure there are more
F
for anyone that doesn't know, he has a new film set to come out this year. hopefully it's great so he can have left on a high note
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caine_Mutiny_Court-Martial_(2023_film)
About 10 years ago, they showed the director's cut of the Exorcist at a local theater. He gave a cool intro and told an interesting story about hiring Linda Blair. Of all the young girls they interviewed, she was one of the few who had no qualms about saying all of the nasty stuff from the script and leaned into it.
Friedkin made Sorcerer so he'e right
didn't watch it btw.
every interview with him contains at least one laugh out loud moment
>I don't give a flying frick into a rolling donut what Al Pacino thinks
Gonna miss this little homie
Is Friedkin the only person who's allowed to hate Al Pacino?
I feel like he’s the only person I’ve seen hate on Pacino that worked with him. I guess they got into it making Cruising.
i dunno if its that he hates pacino here I think its that he's an old school guy and as far as he was concerned he gets final word. Although it is likely they didnt see eye to eye on set because Friedkin likes actors that don't constantly overthink things and who get shit done quickly/proficiently.
F for Friedkino
>I accept your concession.
F
>Star Wars gays shit up a thread that has nothing to do with Star Wars for no apparent reason.
>again
This is why SW fans need to be systematically executed. They make everything about them because of their intense, unending autism, when nobody gives a damn. Maybe Jaws and ANH being successful WAS a fricking mistake.
Anyways F when is this guy's last movie coming out?
In September, going straight to Showtime
RIP. I loved Sorcerer
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WHERE'S MARGOLIS STICKY?! MODS YOU FRICKIN MISSED IT.
RIP to one of the greats. Who's the Friedkin of today? Maybe Neill Blomkamp?
>You puked on my lawn
>Who's the Friedkin of today? Maybe Neill Blomkamp?
Come on man lmao
>Neill Blomkamp?
I don't see any similarities at all other than they make genre films. He's nowhere near the league of Friedkin.
>Who's the Friedkin of today? Maybe Neill Blomkamp?
>*has one good movie and nothing else*
Funniest post ITT right here
Friedkin made at leas 7 good movies
Neill made half of one
This movie reminded me of French Connection but it was like twenty years ago and I don't think the director did anything good since
Narc is a good movie but you're right that it's the only good movie Carnahan ever did. It's an anomaly when you consider the rest of his work.
You didn't like The Grey?
Wouldn't rave over it.
Fair enough I can understand that
How would Friedkin have handled a screenplay like NCFOM?
RIP
who gives a shit
jade was a good movie
RIP
He's sucking wieners in hell
SAFE AND EFFECTIVE
Rip
checking in before rolling sticky
Safe and effective
RIP kino man. I've never seen his kinos. Which kino should I start with?
Exorcist ofc. If you like police action movies, Live and Die in LA/French Connection. If you like adventure/suspense, Sorcerer.
R.I.P.
Haven't seen too many of his films but French Connection and The Exorcist are eternal masterpieces. I know he was a Joo but I like to think he was one of the good ones.
nobody actually cares about israelites you fricking moron. you idiots ruined this board falling for the dumbest shit
>Sad that the director of my favourite kino died
>Read about him in remembrance
>Learn he's got a new kino coming out
>It's a legitimate movie
I'm hype bros
This is how people must have felt in '99 when Eyes Wide Shut was about to come out
like a moron waiting for a shitty movie by a mediocre director?
like a based gigachad waiting for the final kinography from a based director
you are a troony and will never be female or reproduce or have sex
uh oh did i hurt your feelings?
take it to /soc/ nobody wants your face here
I'm sure you'll fit in just fine over there.
One of the best ever, and cool as frick in real life. RIP.
The Pee Wee sticky was more kino, Friedkingays lost
>like a moron waiting for a shitty movie by a mediocre director?
Damn, actually good sticky for once.
>Guy who filmed Christgay propaganda finally dies along with his dying religion
Who the hell cares?
Shut up pajeet, no one cares about your poo opinion
>his dying religion
Friedkin was a israelite.
Good riddance.
Why are there almost a thousand replies? Who cares about this stinky old wrinkled bag lol
Wondering the same thing. Only reason I clicked on this thread
This guy was a fantastic public speaker too. Here he is talking about his movies and answering questions, and it's like a standup routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLCvMA4KM1I
RIP
Wages of Fear better
Love Friedkin but we all agree this movie was trash right?
I love that movie.
literally who?
>literally who?
>look up on tiktok why the exorcist is meant to be scary
>"uhh... well a little girl says frick"
what a hack, good riddance
>Nobody's mentioned Rampage yet
It's genuinely my favorite Friedkin kino.
To Live And Die in KINO
F and RIP. One of the greatest American directors and understood how to treat prissy fricking actors, slap the frick out of them and threaten to shoot them. Also he sounded almost exactly like Donald Trump.
https://gematriaeffect.news/william-friedkin-director-of-the-exorcist-and-french-connection-dies-at-87-august-7-2023/
>unsticky'd
friedkinbros... this is probably the last thread about the guy on Cinemaphile...
Billy was so much of a maverick, he was a israelite who believed in the lord and savior Jesus Christ
F
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