>Radagast the Brown?
>Radagast the CLOWN!
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>Radagast the Brown? >Radagast the CLOWN!
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He was going to betray Sauron you know
nah if you had actually read the books you would know he was shitting bricks in his dealings with him. he even tried to give up and ask galdalf for forgiveness because he was so terrified after meeting with the nazgul and thats how he found out gandalf had already escaped
Well for one he takes Merry and Pippin to Isengard, despite there being Cirith Ungol Orcs in that raiding party. Saurmans Uruks force them to Isengard instead
And Saruman talks about wielding the Ring to Gandalf when Gandalf visits him
I don't remember this
its in the appendix of return of the king. its literally how and when sauronsman realizes gandalf is gone
If you actually read the books you'll remember Gandalf reminding Saruman of his treachery to Sauron and offering him protection if he gives up Isengard and his staff
I can't find this in the appendices, only single lines referencing gandalf's imprisonment and escape
hold on ill look
alright its actually from unfinished tales and the actual lotr book doesnt mention how or when or why sauronsman realizes his escape so its up in the air if that is true for the canon book. he does think about repenting later when confronted by gandalf but his pride or whatever prevents him from actually doing it. tolkien seemed to like the idea that saruman was close to trying to redeem himself but couldnt go all the way and resents and blames gandalf for that
this cant be right cause as soon as gandalf exorcises theoden he banishes grima
grima != grim
grima = grimy
his name is filthy liar-mouth
I can taste the seethe of the person who made this
>Gandalf the Feed?
>Gandalf the Frick!
a lot of movies unironically do this
>name five
no
It's a funny caption, but people don't actually think this is what he thought right?
The point is Sam doubted himself and if he ate the bread even though he didn't remember. They were starving.
He accused Gollum of taking it, he already knew. It was just Frodo turning on him broke his resolve.
To be fair, Sam turned around very quickly , and I imagine the ring and their general state of misery easily fricked with their heads.
To more I watched the movies the more I was sure that Sam and Frodo went through worst ordeals of all the characters.
The opinion that they resisted ring better because they were hobits also doesn't hold up be ause Smeagol and Deagol turned on the spot, which just demonstrates the power of the ring and strength of Sam and Frodo.
And after all that Sam handed the ring back to Frodo almost effortlessly in comparison to others.
sauronsman doesnt miss, i gotta hand it to him
>those two blue wizards?
>more like two take-it-up-the-butt wizards
Althusser, not Tolkien.
>was an Algerian-born French Marxist philosopher
jesus. but he looks so cool here
>Althusser's life was marked by periods of intense mental illness. In 1980, he killed his wife, the sociologist Hélène Rytmann, by strangling her. He was declared unfit to stand trial due to insanity and committed to a psychiatric hospital for three years.
>fit enough to be Professor of Philosophy
>not fit enough to know strangling people to death is a no-no
what the frick is wrong with the fr*nch?
He was in schizomode. Very dangerous to be around a Frog when they're in schizomode.
>periods of intense mental illness. In 1980, he killed his wife, the sociologist Hélène Rytmann, by strangling her. He was declared unfit to stand trial due to insanity and committed to a psychiatric hospital for three years.
Yeah, anon above already mentioned he was marxist.
>Denethor
>Doesn't want a king on de throne
SAURUMAAAAAN
THE
STINK-KYYYYYYYYYYY
>Radagast the Brown? Radagast the Black person
lel
Radagast the POC works better.
GROND the GROND?
GROND the GROND!
it’s mutherfricking GROND!
>Eowin
>Wins her fight.
>Boromir
>Wanted to "borrow" the ring
>Faramir
>Helped to get the ring "far" away
Bravo, Tolkien
Absolutely Dickensian
>"Willy?"
>Wizards the Blue?
>Wizards the SPEW
>Gandalf the grey?
>Gandalf the GAY!
>TREE? I AM NO TREEEEEEEE
>you may call me treebeard
The Nazgul are our greatest allies
>He co-signed the student loan repayment plan this morning.
Saruman did nothing wrong
Frick you Tolkien you christisraelite animal
saruman was the single most petty and moronic character in the entire book
>everything will be ok because everything we will just be lucky ok
Tolkien is a hack
what are you referring to?
that is the way Tolkien writes things, meanwhile an actual cunning intelligent character gets a worse fate than Sauron
>t. George R. R. Martin
Tolkien just draws inspiration from the real world. Despite people being shit there's always some goodness hidden somewhere that ultimately and always prevails. The fact that we are alive right now is the proof of it.
Sauronman's whole character is about succumbing to the cynical idea that nothing can be done unless he becomes a dictator and forces things in the "right direction". Saruman is the antithesis to Gandalf which is why gandalf doesn't take the ring even though he too considered the possibility.
Christopher, did I ever tell you how I came up with names for the characters in my books? You see this character has father issues [looks at Christopher intently for a moment] so I will call him Fathermir. And this one wants to borrow the ring for a bit, but we know what that would entail, so let's call him Borrowmir. All these names are temporary, of course.
Now there's this land that sunk way way in the past, I'll write a notes about that later. It's going to be ruled by Al-Pharaoh. This was an island of numerous men, Numeroreaons.
If you are valorous you'd go to a land of Valournor to mingle with Valourars.
What's that Christopher? If the tyrant Saurus ever turned into a human you'd call him Hellbrand? No, that sound stupid. You'll never write anything of note. Why are you taking a photo of me? Did I give you permission?
Needs more Old English or Nordic like the Shelob bit, but still read it in his voice. Well done.
>Gandalf the White? More like Gandalf the Black person
>I shall not accept you as King, Aragorn. For I am Deny Throne
minas tirith is the city of the line of isildores brother. isildores city was minas ithil which is minas morgal now. his claim is sketchy and is resolved simply by everyone loving him and wanting him to be king, not by any hereditary right he does or does not have. faramir even has to formally renounce the stewardship and say he supports aragorn for king which again supports thats its at best a grey area concerning how strong his claim is
Why did Aragorn decided to let Frodo go on to Mordor alone at the end of FotR? He knew he and the rest of the fellowship would eventually succumb to the temptation of the ring along the way, just like Boromir, so Frodo was better of alone?
Yes.
I see. Seems believable enough. Aragorn knew that as things got more and more desperate, and as they approached the Eye, their temptation would only grow stronger, they would be more of a liability.
Essentially, yes. The fellowship had helped and protected Frodo this far but as far as Aragorn knew, there was no "plan" after that - they were never going to fight their way into Mordor and no one knew a safe way in, so two hobbits sneaking in didn't have a worse chance than the fellowship as a whole
why would a demigod like sauron and sauronman think they get away going against the wishes of an actual god? what was their endgame here?
god willed everything that will happen and all the ainur took part in it too. so in some way sauron sort of knows the future to a degree or at the very least knows that eru wont really intervene
when melkor tries to overpower eru during the making of time/the world eru literally laughs at him and says there is no possible way for melkor to defy him since he is Him aka everything melkor does or would do is allowed/decreed by eru
would would god allow evil? thats sort of a religious question but you can assume that an all powerful deity knows better than you or i
sauron bet on morgoth in the first age, and was too embarrassed to ask for forgiveness. And he thought that iluvatar had abandoned the world. Sauron initially wanted power only to make the world more orderly, but quickly became corrupt and evil.
Saruman on the other hand thought that the best way to defeat sauron would be to get the ring for himself and use its power. He deceived the white council about sauron in dol guldur, because he thought that if he allowed sauron to recover some of his power, the ring would eventually reveal himself. When saruman used the palantir in orthanc to spy on mordor, sauron looked back with the ithil palantil, and they made some communication. Saruman was corrupted by sauron, though saruman always planned to betray sauron. Saruman tried to play both sides, even to himself, by rationalizing his own use of orcs and creation of rings learned from sauron as a deception against sauron. However sauron understood saruman too well from the start, they were both maia of aule, smith of the valar, so they had similar personalities from the beginning.
>character betrays his friend and colleague
>name is "sorry, man"
>Gamdalf the gay?
>Gandalf the gay!
i feel like they wasted brad dourif pretty hard on grima. i don't know who, but if you're going to cast him, give him a better character.
hes extremely memorable in the movie and hes obviously used to playing villains so i doubt he cared so much. it would be sad to hear him say he doesnt like being typecasted though
He left an impact, I don't think he was wasted.
>threatens to bash pippin's head in
>tells pippin to go kill himself
>tells him about the afterlife knowing he'll never get to see it
Why did Gandalf hate Pippin so much?
Peak grumpy grandpa energy.
hobbits are men so presumably have the gift of men and so he will get to see afterlife. elves are the ones who just stand around a warehouse until the end of time doing nothing
Because he was a fool of a Took.
Hobbits go to heaven because they're related to man, meaning yes anon you could have a shortstack hobbit wife that would be incredibly happy at the idea of you pumping her full of half-hobbit children while making you massive meals every night.
What was Treebeareds name before his beard grew?
tree
he doesnt say but since treebeard isnt his name he still has his ent name in the story but its probably really long and weird sounding
fangorn is his sindarin name, which literally means treebeard. The forest is named after him
he also has a very long entish name, which is unknown
What was his name before he lost his fangs?
TreeCleanShaven, obviously.
>saruman of many colors
more like saruman of gay colors
>Radagast the Brown? His arse is brown! The brown-arsed clown!
>Sauron is dead, I can no longer call myself Sauronman
>Hmmm what’s a scary and intimidating name? Howabout Sharky, like a Shark…
>Radagast the bird tamer Radagast the FOOL
How come Gollum knew his way around Mordor so well?
Play the kino gollum game and find out chud
Sauron was exerting all his will to find the ring and Gollum was drawn in because he was marked by it. As he was lurking there he was captured
Everything explained in Tolkien estate sanctioned game 'Lord of Ring - the Golum'. Check it out.
Saruman the white?
SARUMAN THE SHITE!
"That big indian wiener tho"
>Tree? I am not tree, I am....uhhhhh....I am an ant
Yeah, nice try """ant""".
Tolkien the Good? Tolkien the Bad!
Go to bed, George.