Realistically, what is the best case scenario for me?
The show flat out admits he's incorrigible and hurts anyone who gets near him, so does he just become a shut in until he dies?
Realistically, what is the best case scenario for me?
The show flat out admits he's incorrigible and hurts anyone who gets near him, so does he just become a shut in until he dies?
I think he can still live a normal life.
Literally the only times he makes an unqualified positive difference in someone's life are with total strangers who don't know him personally.
Anyone who gets too close to him gets hurt.
Best case scenario he goes reclusive like that one Gerbil dude, maybe out in a farm or something and only interacts with the world to make more movies and shit, he tanks basically every personal relationship he's in at some point.
The most realistic scenario for him that goes with his idea of closure being a myth is that he continues his moral ups and downs of improving as a person then immediately going back to being piece of shit until he eventually dies.
>Best case scenario he goes reclusive like that one Gerbil dude
He tried that when he rebuilt the old family house but fricked off because he's addicted to Holywoo
That's why is' the "best" case scenario and not the most realistic case, his narcissism (or bpd, if you wanna go for like an actual clinical answer for why he's Like That) will ALWAYS screw him over, that type of fame addiction is a part of him.
He was doing well for a long time until he wasn't. So even if he relapses, as long as he's good longer than the last time he's on the right track.
I don't know, do we have any real life examples of Bojack types getting a good ending
Dumbass only needed to leave Hollywood. That was it. They've shown like 3 times his overall well-being was better every time.
Honestly the show should have ended with him jumping off a bridge to imitate Secretariat and the final episode just shows how everyone moved on.
He should have died in the View From Halfway down. Him anticlimactically drowning to death in his own pool that didn't even belong to him anymore is a pretty on brand way for him to go out.
Was this show Waksberg's cry for help? That LA is destroying him but he's mentally trapped there?
He marries Penny after she graduates college.
From Big Bang Theory? That's a crazy cross over.
Ideally he would go back to teaching once he got to that point in his cycle that he (together with Mister Peanut Butter) were clearly restarting at the finale. Maybe he's old enough this time to not let younger women make him frick up so bad.
>Ideally he would go back to teaching
He was teaching while in prison
Yeah it was what he was at his healthiest doing.
Yeh a lot of ex actors end up teaching in acting schools. It's a cushy way to retire while also continuing to be involved in the industry in some way.
BoJack is an unsalvageable, poisoning, absolutely fricking insane person. He needs a LOT of help to change his ways, otherwise he will just keep living his dellusional life and hurting the people he cares about. He should either kill himself or try to shut the hell up sometimes.
I think the moral of the story isn't so much that Bojack is a terrible person. He's a flawed, relatable character. The moral of the story is that Hollywood is a terrible place that makes people be horrible. Once you get that about the show you can appreciate it a lot more deeply including but not limited to how Princess Caroline is one of the best female cartoon characters of all time because she's able to wade through that, succeed and still find her own happy ending within which she's able to be a good person.
Really her and todd are probably the most morally and mentally sound characters in the show
>todd
The stoner that was magically handed everything and no one ever said no to.
Todd is a real serious slacker who benefitted tremendously from both dumb luck and the kindness of others (with little appreciation). He only has the luxury of morality because it is afforded him and he should have known Bojack well enough after they'd lived together for so long not to try to collaborate, rely on or even trust him.
Did everyone forget the shady shit she did throughout the show?
That's her fricking job and she never pretended otherwise.
Yeah, she works in a shady business, no shit.
Their dynamic is different after his whole "it's you" speech, he kept Bojack at arms length as a passing acquaintance at best.
Yeah and it was much healthier for both of them but it could have been much healthier than THAT of he had stood on his own two feet years earlier. He could have been as good a friend as Mister Peanut Butter - although Mister will probably keep Bojack and Todd on decent terms with one another.
so hurt people, homie. no one is special or above getting their feefees hurt. we're all wretched. never forget this.
bojack has shown that he can change if he really wants to. he could go sober and actually give teaching a shot. unfortunately the implication is that he will always fall back into his bad habits
Knowing your patterns and the effects you have on people is a big step towards breaking the cycle.
Best thing for him is probably to leave Hollywoo and be very selective in who he lets close to him though.
this was my main grievance with season 6, complete fricking thematic whiplash after like episode 9 i think. i genuinely don't understand what the creators were going for unless they initially planned for his suicide to be successful. if the idea really IS that bojack can never change then that just feels incredibly bitter, borderline nihilistic in a way that doesn't fit the tone of the rest of the series, especially with the ending finishing on a vaguely hopeful note
It was an overreaction to Weinstein that fortunately somebody caught before it was too late to pull out of.
Because the idea of the series prior to S5 appears to have been that he really does want to change, but only changes when he puts in the hard effort to do so instead of looking for an easy fix like fame or love. Notice how he treats Todd with more respect in S3 and S4 than he did in S1 and S2. Then in S5 he was suddenly a horrible, un-redeemable person who becomes a hardcore addict to a specific drug despite doing everything under the sun prior to this point with no daily addictions besides alcohol and cigarettes. Including week and month-long benders. And choking someone was THAT much worse than helping someone binge on drugs until they died.
I never bothered to watch S6. S5 was too much of a trash fire to have any hope for it.
It's not so bad taken as a whole. Bojack almost finds happiness then he almost dies then, despite losing both Diane and Princess Caroline, he returns to start and willingly embarks on the whole thing again. It could have felt more balanced if it had another season to really examine that but it is what it is.
You're telling me anthropomorphic turtles aren't running Hollywoo? I refuse to believe that.
The show is NOT realistic so you shouldn't take it seriously.
Anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot.